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Hello,
Have the opportunity to buy a 4 day old second hand galaxy plus for about the price of an galaxy tab 2. The specs on the 7 plus are the "plus" over the tab 2, but the plus still runs on honeycomb 3.0. My phone runs the ics and i'm very happy about ics.
Is the 7 plus a good investment, (will it get the ics one day), or would the tab 2 with the "lesser" specs would be the better buy in the dev support department?
Wich one should you choose over the other and why?
Thanks for the input,
Adam
I can't imagine that the 7.0 Plus won't get ICS at some point, but it is hard to tell when that time may be. It is a much better device from a hardware standpoint, and if it were the same price, I don't think I could pass up the 7.0 Plus tablet. However, if you are mainly concerned with development, I would think that the Tab 2 7" is probably going to be a better option. It already ships with ICS, and given that it is probably the best tablet for the price, I would think that many people are going to be getting one. I'm not sure if you're looking for a wifi only tablet or a 3g capable tablet, so that could change things. I know that right now, the wifi Tab 2 has a mostly functioning CM9 ICS port going, and I didn't see any major issues left to fix (though I could be wrong).
Better sound. The Plus utilizes a Yamaha chip which has issues (or at least Samsung's implementation) with low level volume fluctuation and cut out that is extremely annoying to listeners of light music. The Galaxy Tab 2 7 utilizes a Wolfson chip with none of those issues.
If one desires a better music player, the Tab 2 7 is the way to go in my view.
any other input from galaxy tab 2 owners?
They are pretty similar? I would go for new over used any day. there will be more development for the 2 so if that's your thing you'd be better off on the 2. Only difference I could see was chip set and clock speed.
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I have a Tab 2 7" that I purchased a few days ago from Costco, which has a great deal going btw, and I think it is a great little tablet. I don't have a Plus to compare it to so I am not sure the differences.
I don't like the Samsung version of ICS, just my personal opinion, but like posted before CM9 works on it. I have yet to get that installed on mine but I am hoping to this weekend.
I've got cm9 installed on my 2 and its OK nothing to write home about at this point. It lacks flash and hardware acceleration. If you like the cm9 setup go for it but if your looking to get 100% function you'll be disappointed.
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The tab 2's sound is fantastic. Blows my galaxy nexus to shreds.
When it comes to media I'd say the tab 2. Raw performance goes to the plus. Then again who knows when the plus will get ICS?
Its definitely a tough choice... not sure what I'd do... although I am very happy with the tab 2.
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Metallice said:
The tab 2's sound is fantastic. Blows my galaxy nexus to shreds.
When it comes to media I'd say the tab 2. Raw performance goes to the plus. Then again who knows when the plus will get ICS?
Its definitely a tough choice... not sure what I'd do... although I am very happy with the tab 2.
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Tab 7 Plus already got ICS..n its super smooth even on stock ICS...
I have owned both. I lost my tab plus a couple weeks ago and just got the tab 2, my major problem is the lack of development for the plus if you like custom roms. I'm also getting waaaaay better battery life on my tab 2 because of all the developers. I couldn't even notice any of the hardware differences that separate them, they feel like identical pieces of hardware to me.
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which rom are you using?
Get tab2 and install cm10 from www.teamhacksung.org and forget it !!!
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which rom are you using?
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I'm currently using aokp jellybean build 2 and its super fast and responsive. I don't have a single complaint. At this stage I would say aokp is more feature rich than cm10
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I'm thinking about getting the plus, but after reading this thread, I feel better to go with the Tab 2 7"! I'm getting it to replace over my Nexus 7, since the Nexus 7 is so fast that's why I op for the Plus. Reason why I choose Samsung tablet over the Nexus 7 because IR blaster, and nice speaker and better speaker location than the Nexus 7 is in the rear very easy to get cover up. Also with micro SD make it a perfect tablet ever. So disappointed on the Nexus 7 and probably the iPad mini wouldn't be any better than the Nexus 7.
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Mohamedselim said:
Get tab2 and install cm10 from www.teamhacksung.org and forget it !!!
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Amen! The best thing you could do!
The only thing I dislike about Tab2 is the lack of a LED flash.
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I really like the nexus 10 and I know this forum may be a little bias, but I am debating selling my tf300 with dock for a nexus 10.... thoughts/opinions welcome!
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Depends on what you really need. I had the infinity and the nexus 10 is miles ahead of it in my opinion.
300 pros:
-Keyboard dock with extended battery
-Expandable storage
-Insanely fast charging times
Cons:
-Slow I/o
-Rear speaker
-Tegra 3 (if you want to count this..)
Nexus 10 pros:
-Screen
-Battery (not comparing it to the Asus+dock)
-Front speakers
-Insanely fast
Cons:
-Slow battery charging (6 hours on full)
-Some games run slow due to the amount of pixels to push plus not yet optimized for the N10.
-No expandable storage
In the end it boils down to what you need, but I love my N10 and am not sugar coating it in any way. I tried the tf300 first, returned that for a 700. Decided I'd compare it to a note 10.1 and returned both and got the N10.
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Great info..thanks...
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Any other thoughts? My biggest issue with thw tf300 has been the web browsing, but thats not really anything new.
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Any other thoughts? My biggest issue with thw tf300 has been the web browsing, but thats not really anything new.
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Define issue with web browsing? Do you mean laginess or sluggidhness? If so the n10 has none. It loads web sites very fast and has no touch or input lag via on screen keyboard.
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Any other thoughts? My biggest issue with thw tf300 has been the web browsing, but thats not really anything new.
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I'll let you know. I currently use the TF300 (stock), but am annoyed with the sluggishness concerning web browsing, e-mail, etc. My Nexus 10 is coming tomorrow. Hopefully it will be better.
Although I must say that I was reading about the Boat Browser somewhere on these XDA forums, and I had never heard of this browser before. I installed it a couple of days ago and it definitely improves the browsing experience on the TF300. Give it a try.
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Define issue with web browsing? Do you mean laginess or sluggidhness? If so the n10 has none. It loads web sites very fast and has no touch or input lag via on screen keyboard.
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Yes the laginess or slugginess... it has gotten better since the past few updates, but not what it should be....I am hoping i can get $400 for my 32GB tf300 with keyboard dock and a 16GB micro sd card and bluetooth mouse
I really beleive the nexus 10 is the better device...
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ualdriver said:
I'll let you know. I currently use the TF300 (stock), but am annoyed with the sluggishness concerning web browsing, e-mail, etc. My Nexus 10 is coming tomorrow. Hopefully it will be better.
Although I must say that I was reading about the Boat Browser somewhere on these XDA forums, and I had never heard of this browser before. I installed it a couple of days ago and it definitely improves the browsing experience on the TF300. Give it a try.
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I am very curious to hear your thoughts.... I have used Boat Browser, in fact i think i have tried them all.. ill have to see if i can find some youtube videos of web browsing....
cdrshm
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Take this for what its worth....I am a geek and have had 5 different tablets over the past few years. The loved my tf101 w dock...I absolutely loved my transformer . I skipped the prime, my tf101 was still rockin....my transformer died and I saved up the money for the infinity tf700 with dock. I absolutely hated it. It was like there was always something slowing it down and it made me think I just had a bad unit. Did some research and found out that after the prime Asus had a bit of an io issue with the memory , the infinity inherited the issue.
Got my nexus on Thursday and I love it like I loved my transformer compared to a gtab ....the difference between the nexus and the infinity are like daylight and dark. I also have to say its really badass having aosp in a perfect state...no cm or akop issues....love cm love akop but you all know what I mean. My point is...I love this tab compared to the infinity...screen is beautiful , proc is next gen, and jb4.2 is smooth as butter on this device...so many little things cleaned up, this may be the best android version yet.
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I really like the nexus 10 and I know this forum may be a little bias, but I am debating selling my tf300 with dock for a nexus 10.... thoughts/opinions welcome!
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If storage is your main concern, stick with the TF300, or better yet upgrade to the TF700. If it isn't, upgrade to Nexus 10. I came from a TF700 and the difference is staggering. Screen is much nicer, sound is much louder (and stereo placement!!!).
I've also owned the original Transformer, the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (still one of best tablet designs hands down), the Prime and only the GT10.1 comes close to the Nexus 10 in terms of build quality (I wonder why ).
I'd recommend the TF300 over the TF700 for a few reasons, and neither over the N10.
Why the TF300 over the 700? It's less expensive, it's far more comfortable to use for long periods thanks to the not-sexy but also not-stupid plastic construction, more resistant to wear and abuse as a result, and it's not trying to whip a Tegra 3 into running 1080p resolution it is not suited for.
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If storage is your main concern, stick with the TF300, or better yet upgrade to the TF700. If it isn't, upgrade to Nexus 10. I came from a TF700 and the difference is staggering. Screen is much nicer, sound is much louder (and stereo placement!!!).
I've also owned the original Transformer, the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (still one of best tablet designs hands down), the Prime and only the GT10.1 comes close to the Nexus 10 in terms of build quality (I wonder why ).
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I am not concerned about storage at all, just performance and beauty.... I have tried to put my tf300 in the marketplace but don't have rights, anyone know who I need to talk too?
Thanks
Cdrshm
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I'd recommend the TF300 over the TF700 for a few reasons, and neither over the N10.
Why the TF300 over the 700? It's less expensive, it's far more comfortable to use for long periods thanks to the not-sexy but also not-stupid plastic construction, more resistant to wear and abuse as a result, and it's not trying to whip a Tegra 3 into running 1080p resolution it is not suited for.
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For me its either keep the tf300 or sell for the nexus 10
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Anyone have an idea of what to sell my 32gb tf300 with dock and 16gb micro sd? Mint condition!!
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Anyone have an idea of what to sell my 32gb tf300 with dock and 16gb micro sd? Mint condition!!
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I'm selling my TF300 today on eBay. I put a couple of other TF300s on my watch list just to see what they were going for. It looks like the tablet is going for the low to mid $200's. I don't know about the keyboard as I don't have one so didn't put it on the watch list. Also, if you decide to sell yours before Monday, eBay is doing a deal where if you sell an item through the eBay mobile app, you can sell it for free.
I played with the Nexus 10 for about an hour or so this morning. My initial impressions are that it is very zippy compared to the TF300. I remember first getting the TF300 and turning it on. All my apps starting downloading in the background automatically and while they were downloading and installing, the TF300 got really slow and laggy. With the Nexus 10, it was doing all that downloading and installing in the background and it was still silky smooth.
Overall, it's a much better device. The screen is obviously sharper. It is very quick to switch screens, cycle through apps, etc. If there's any lag, I couldn't perceive it. Browsing with the Boat and Chrome browsers is definitely zippier. When you scroll down a page, especially one with pictures, you can tell it just scrolls much more smoothly. I never saw that annoying "waiting for the browser to respond" which I normally saw at least once or twice per hour on the TF300. Anyway, that's all I've really done with it. I only use it for browsing and e-mail (I don't game on tablets), and for those purposes it is definitely a nicer, smoother machine than the TF300- which should be expected for its price and the advance in technology over the older device.
Stay away from Asus and the Transformer line. I'm telling you. They don't know how to write software, and they don't support their devices. I gladly sold my TF201 for the N10 and it was the best decision I've made. You've been warned.
I had the TF700 and was very disappointed. The i/o power just wasn't there. Most noticeable on web browsing - major lag. I sold it and so far I am quite happy with the Nexus 10 performance.
I had a TF700T / Infinity for close to 2 months -- just returned it this morning to Best Buy (reward zone silver -- 60 days to decide). I went back and forth on this a lot before returning it. My Infinity and dock didn't have any of the build issues that some have described -- no creaking, no screen lift, etc. The overall build seemed excellent, and overall the Infinity looks and feels like an incredible premium device. I also really liked the expandable storage and the extra battery power in the dock, and it really has a great display. When it worked, it was sweet -- but I ran into frequent lags, browser freeze-ups, slow app updates and file transfers, etc. I knew it was possible to unlock, root and flash a custom ROM to get better performance -- but I really didn't want to HAVE to do that just to make the device usable, especially since the combination of tablet and dock cost me about $650.
Reading through the TF700 sub forums, it seemed that about half the users had good experience using NvFlash and custom ROMs, but a significant number of folks reported frozen devices, boot loops, etc -- more than I'm used to seeing in most XDA sub forums. It seems to me that the device really wasn't intended to be easily flashable -- and easily recoverable in the event of issues. If I'm going to be flashing custom ROMs to my tablet, I'd rather it be a device sold with this in mind. Having used a Nexus phone (Galaxy Nexus) for the past year, I can attest to the fact that it's virtually impossible to brick this beyond the ability to wipe and start over. I appreciate this about Nexus devices.
I wish the Nexus 10 had expandable memory, and it would be nice if a pogo pin based charger option would be sold soon. Despite this, everything I read convinced me to return my Infinity today and order a Nexus 10.
Well it seems pretty unanimous for the nexus 10, as expected!!! I took the first steps and sold my tf300, now just trying to sell the keyboard dock. I am stoked about getting the nexus 10. Cant wait for it to be back in stock... thanks again for all the great info and personal experience!
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Despite this, everything I read convinced me to return my Infinity today and order a Nexus 10.
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Where did you order yours from?
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Okay, so a little over a week, and I'm thinking of returning this, and getting a note 10.1.
Sounds is a little quiet. Word processing isn't that great, considering it's got is own keyboard dock. There is some keyboard lag.
I love the quick charging, touchpad though.
Biggest problem is the flex. This tablet creaks and flexes. Makes me a little worried about durability. Any thoughts and input would be welcomed.
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Okay, so a little over a week, and I'm thinking of returning this, and getting a note 10.1.
Sounds is a little quiet. Word processing isn't that great, considering it's got is own keyboard dock. There is some keyboard lag.
I love the quick charging, touchpad though.
Biggest problem is the flex. This tablet creaks and flexes. Makes me a little worried about durability. Any thoughts and input would be welcomed.
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I personally have a tf300, and I work at Best Buy where I have sold dozens of them (many with docks). Our display model goes through ALOT of abuse with our customers, kids, and my co-workers who don't know how to use it, or set the device in it. It still works perfectly fine, and has no problems. I can vouch for the durability of the tablet and its dock. I really think this is the one of the best tablets. I am also familiar with the Note. Its expensive, but its another favorite at Best Buy. One of the most advanced tabs we sell. No dock though.
Ended up returning it. Bought a note from Costco for $430.
Hopefully the next generation of transformer has its own " office" suite that works flawless. Also, reading the forums has me thinking that I shouldn't have updated to jellybean out of the box. The note is just much " sturdier" , no flex.
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I just don't see $130 worth of difference between it and the Asus though. I've only got $359 invested in my tab AND dock and it's nice. I have no idea what you're talking about dock keyboard lag either. I've used mine a bunch and never once experienced any lag.
When it all boils down to it, all that matters is that you are happy with it though.
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I just don't see $130 worth of difference between it and the Asus though. I've only got $359 invested in my tab AND dock and it's nice. I have no idea what you're talking about dock keyboard lag either. I've used mine a bunch and never once experienced any lag.
When it all boils down to it, all that matters is that you are happy with it though.
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No lag in the stock note app, but in Polaris, kingsoft, and quick office pro. I think that is on the edge of being perfect, next version I will consider.
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stick with the note forget asus
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stick with the note forget asus
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+1 for note 10.1. Keyboard dock is the only thing that Asus tf300 better than 10.1.
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tritran18518 said:
+1 for note 10.1. Keyboard dock is the only thing that Asus tf300 better than 10.1.
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Yeah but that dock is a huge PLUS. I love mine. The added battery life is nice too.
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you didn't unlock the tablet? the 300 is a monster with a unlocked bootloader and cleanrom, better yet the fastest tablet out next to the tf700...
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+1 for note 10.1. Keyboard dock is the only thing that Asus tf300 better than 10.1.
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Samsung take forever to release updates (it took them over 3 months to get Jelly Bean on the Note 10.1 when the TF300 already had it).
The Note 10.1 also just doesn't feel as premium compared to the TF300.
The only real benefits I can see that the Note 10.1 has are: Audio, Faster Processor and an extra 1GB of RAM.
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you didn't unlock the tablet? the 300 is a monster with a unlocked bootloader and cleanrom, better yet the fastest tablet out next to the tf700...
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I try not to root my tablets, only my phones. I lost a couple of documents while typing them. Kind of put me off, but the killer is the weight balance and flex. Never reallly felt comfortable holding it wth one hand. Also, for pure speed, I would have bought an n10. I did enjoy the fast charging and extended battery with the dock, not to mention the touchpad.
The note definitely has a more premium feel in hand, aspecially the balance and glass surface. Resolution ist as good though.
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you can wait what other samsung tablets get release this year
samsung takes it time to update but so does asus they might see 4.2 before us
Asus are generally quick with updates in my opinion. The transformer TF300 was one of the first devices (outside of the nexus devices) to receive JB if i'm not mistaken
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It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.
They are already porting 4.2.1...It's easy because the nexus 7 is the TF300T minus sd card and dock(7 inch screen).
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I really do think that Asus has something here. I love the galaxy note as well. If I could basically take the camera and dock from the Asus and merge it with the note, I would have a perfect tablet.
Also a dedicated word processing app that works flawless with no chance of data loss.
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you didn't unlock the tablet? the 300 is a monster with a unlocked bootloader and cleanrom, better yet the fastest tablet out next to the tf700...
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- Well, back plastic of our tf300 just a little better than the note 10.1 but users will buy a case anyway so that is not a a bif problem , i think.
- 10.1 runs slowly on stock rom. Same thing happen to our tf300. Stock rom on our tablet is [email protected] ( can't even load webpages normally)
- camera, i believe most users don't usually use their tab to take pics
==> for $100 more , note 10.1 have better processor, 2gb ram, s-pen, better display. I think note 10.1 is better choice if you have money to buy one. Or even buy an ipad 3, which is very good for daily use.
p/s: i bought my tab from craiglist for $230 and for that amount of money, i have nothing to complain about. But if i bought this tab with full price, i will regret for sure.
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- Well, back plastic of our tf300 just a little better than the note 10.1 but users will buy a case anyway so that is not a a bif problem , i think.
- 10.1 runs slowly on stock rom. Same thing happen to our tf300. Stock rom on our tablet is [email protected] ( can't even load webpages normally)
- camera, i believe most users don't usually use their tab to take pics
==> for $100 more , note 10.1 have better processor, 2gb ram, s-pen, better display. I think note 10.1 is better choice if you have money to buy one. Or even buy an ipad 3, which is very good for daily use.
p/s: i bought my tab from craiglist for $230 and for that amount of money, i have nothing to complain about. But if i bought this tab with full price, i will regret for sure.
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I disagree on the back. The note 2 has way less flex but isn't as grippy.
Agree on the camera, I rarely use them.
The display on the tf300 kicks the crap on the note resolution wise, but I love using the s pen. It's a wash, cause the screen (gorilla glass) makes me trust the Note more.
As far as cases, almost impossible to buy a tf300 case without going online, I went the lazy route and for it from Best buy for the note.
All of these could have been avoided maybe by buying the 700 but price wise, it just brought me back to the Note. Do miss the usb drive though.
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I have the gen 1 Note 10.1 and absolutely love it. Is the new 2014 Note a worthwhile upgrade? In particular, are the screen and speed much better?
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I have the gen 1 Note 10.1 and absolutely love it. Is the new 2014 Note a worthwhile upgrade? In particular, are the screen and speed much better?
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I just went from the OG 10.1 to the 10.1 2014... When I first bought my 10.1 last year, I was very tempted to bring it back because I hated the screen. I soon realized that I loved the device as a whole, though. I got a TON of use out of it. I couldn't give it up and I got over the screen for a while. Once I heard there was going to be a updated version coming and then they announced it was the same screen as the Nexus 10, I was sold immediately. When you are trying to read smaller text on the OG 10.1 screen, you strain your eyes because the pixel density is just not there. Everything looks grainy. Once you see the screen on the 10.1 2014, its a game changer. You can't go back. I swear it hurts my eyes to look at the OG 10.1 now.
All that screen comes with a price though. I still feel there are things that the OG 10.1 handles betters just because it doesn't have to push all of those pixels on the screen. There are times when the 10.1 2014 will have some random chugs and video video performance and I def think it's because of the extra resolution it has to process. Either way, the device in general is very fast and multi-tasks like a champ. I know for me it was a no-brainer to upgrade. But that might vary for different people and their financial situations.
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That helps a lot. Im going to go pick up one tomorow if the screen really helps with reading. By the way, I hope you dont work for Samsung lol.
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I have the gen 1 Note 10.1 and absolutely love it. Is the new 2014 Note a worthwhile upgrade? In particular, are the screen and speed much better?
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That helps a lot. Im going to go pick up one tomorow if the screen really helps with reading. By the way, I hope you dont work for Samsung lol.
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Haha good call... If I did, it would be silly for me to point out it's flaws to obviously
Read the Note 2014 review as many as possible before you decide to upgrade.
I'm going to say Hell yes! The upgrade is worth it. Just for the screen it's worth it.. But improved s-note is great too. It feels like a much more premium tablet than last year's model in my opinion. Speed I don't notice much difference if anything the new version is a bit laggier but I see that getting fixed with software updates and it's fine for what I use it for the most. As a notebook for school
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I went ahead and got it. The screen is indeed much nicer. It is quite large though. I find that snote in particular is much slower.
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I went ahead and got it. The screen is indeed much nicer. It is quite large though. I find that snote in particular is much slower.
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Large? You're comparing to original 10.1, how can this be large?
Sorry meant laggy. Damn autocorrect.
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The speakers on the old Note 10.1 are actually pretty good. How are the the speakers on the 2014 edition compared to the old version?
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They are not as good because they are no longer on the front.
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They are not as good because they are no longer on the front.
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They're a lot better compared to if they were located in the back. In my opinion, the location of the speakers on the 10.1 2014 is well justified for the slimmer bezel. Of course, this is a personal choice. Some people don't mind huge bezels (e.g., new Nexus 7).
I just got the 2014 ed. a few days ago, still getting used to it. I like that it's lighter and the screen is awesome. I'm not jazzed about the physical buttons and it's not as responsive. However, now that it's sporting a proper display I can pass down the Nexus 7 to the kids and use the Note tablet for reading as well. I'm really looking forward to Google Play Magazines on it. I'll try to remember to post more as I go. The higher storage capacity is nice also.
I own a first gen Note 10.1 GT-N8013.
The updates on the G-Note 10.1 2014 has struck my interest and I would really like to own one but............
The problems that are being reported with speaker gills and IR blasters being loose, lag issues and the Knox counter issue for root has put out that fire in me.
I may wait til next year or at lease wait for all the bugs to be worked out.
kkretch said:
I own a first gen Note 10.1 GT-N8013.
The updates on the G-Note 10.1 2014 has struck my interest and I would really like to own one but............
The problems that are being reported with speaker gills and IR blasters being loose, lag issues and the Knox counter issue for root has put out that fire in me.
I may wait til next year or at lease wait for all the bugs to be worked out.
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Valid concerns.
Holding out for Note 12.2" with Snapdragon 800 to arrive in the US. Coming from original Note 10.1 10.1" doesn't do the pen justice plus it's small for a device that requires two hands and miss the stability. Never once experienced a random reboot or hang which happens, although rare, even with Nexus 7, 7 2013 and 10. 2014 will be very interesting, too,with A57 ARMv8 64-bit variants on ~16nm node and 4GB+ DRAM. Like to see more AutoCAD like apps like CATIA.
How are you guys dealing with the changes to MultiWindowing? I miss cascade mode. Although, I think someone here has a way to show more than 2 apps at a time. Still looking for that.
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How are you guys dealing with the changes to MultiWindowing? I miss cascade mode. Although, I think someone here has a way to show more than 2 apps at a time. Still looking for that.
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You can have more than two, and any app, by using pen window manager (needs root).
I'm thinking to upgrade from Nexus 10 and was looking into this device.
Speed wise, how does it compare to Nexus 10 ?
Which variant is faster Exynos or S800?
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jodvova said:
I'm thinking to upgrade from Nexus 10 and was looking into this device.
Speed wise, how does it compare to Nexus 10 ?
Which variant is faster Exynos or S800?
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I had a Nexus 10 and liked it a lot. I now have the Note 10.1 1014 Wifi (exynos) and it is a better tablet all the way around. Speed wise it feels much faster. The battery life is at least 50% better. The screen seems a bit better. It is smaller and lighter than the Nexus 10 also. Performance wise Snapdragon versus Exynos, the Exynos is slightly faster CPU wise and the Snapdragon is slightly faster GPU wise. The LTE snapdragon model is not officially available in the states yet. The camera is way better and the S pen is not just a gimmick. The New Note 10.1 is the most useful tablet day to day that I have owned and I have owned a ton of them.
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I had a Nexus 10 and liked it a lot. I now have the Note 10.1 1014 Wifi (exynos) and it is a better tablet all the way around. Speed wise it feels much faster. The battery life is at least 50% better. The screen seems a bit better. It is smaller and lighter than the Nexus 10 also. Performance wise Snapdragon versus Exynos, the Exynos is slightly faster CPU wise and the Snapdragon is slightly faster GPU wise. The LTE snapdragon model is not officially available in the states yet. The camera is way better and the S pen is not just a gimmick. The New Note 10.1 is the most useful tablet day to day that I have owned and I have owned a ton of them.
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+1 to everything he said. This tablet is way better than the current nexus 10. The nexus 10 never got to be properly optimized and felt much more sluggish and buggy. I can give many details if you want, but I bet you won't be disappointed with the upgrade.
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+1 to everything he said. This tablet is way better than the current nexus 10. The nexus 10 never got to be properly optimized and felt much more sluggish and buggy. I can give many details if you want, but I bet you won't be disappointed with the upgrade.
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I would like to know your opinion on the screens...as far as I know, nexus 10 came with a rgb subpixel arrangement, while Note came with a somehow strange rg bw arrangement. Supposedly one shouldn't be able to see the difference since the pixel density is so high, but I can and do see the tiny jagged dots, and it's not a very nice feeling though...that's why I wanna know how it compares to nexus 10. Thank you!
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I would like to know your opinion on the screens...as far as I know, nexus 10 came with a rgb subpixel arrangement, while Note came with a somehow strange rg bw arrangement. Supposedly one shouldn't be able to see the difference since the pixel density is so high, but I can and do see the tiny jagged dots, and it's not a very nice feeling though...that's why I wanna know how it compares to nexus 10. Thank you!
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The screen is noticeably better on the note. The nexus has pale colors in comparison, and while in the note they might feel a little bit over emphasized and warm the screen is nicer to watch, specially at higher levels of brightness. Regarding definition and pixels... the note might appear sharper bit it's probably due to the colors and not for the density or anything similar. I bet you cannot tell the difference resolution/subpixel wise but the final feeling is that the note offers a far superior screen IMHO.
I have both and have had the Nexus 10 since April this year and I manually updated it to kitkat. My note 10.1 is running the latest mk1.
The Note is a lot more powerful on paper but the nexus10 is definitely more responsive. It really is samsungs touchwiz that's slowing down the note. However, the note destroys the nexus 10 on all benchmarks (if it matters anyway).
Screen sharpness I would say is the same. However, I prefer the colours on the note 10 as the nexus 10 feels underwhelming.
Both have stereo speakers and the nexus 10 has the edge because of its placement. But the note 10 isnt bad, it is actually loud I dont mind the speakers facing sideways.
I bought the note 10 because I need the stylus. I bring my note 10 to work everyday and use the stylus all the time. If I didnt need the stylus then I would be sticking with my nexus 10.
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I have both and have had the Nexus 10 since April this year and I manually updated it to kitkat. My note 10.1 is running the latest mk1.
The Note is a lot more powerful on paper but the nexus10 is definitely more responsive. It really is samsungs touchwiz that's slowing down the note. However, the note destroys the nexus 10 on all benchmarks (if it matters anyway).
Screen sharpness I would say is the same. However, I prefer the colours on the note 10 as the nexus 10 feels underwhelming.
Both have stereo speakers and the nexus 10 has the edge because of its placement. But the note 10 isnt bad, it is actually loud I dont mind the speakers facing sideways.
I bought the note 10 because I need the stylus. I bring my note 10 to work everyday and use the stylus all the time. If I didnt need the stylus then I would be sticking with my nexus 10.
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Thanks ! That was really helpful !
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I have both and have had the Nexus 10 since April this year and I manually updated it to kitkat. My note 10.1 is running the latest mk1.
The Note is a lot more powerful on paper but the nexus10 is definitely more responsive. It really is samsungs touchwiz that's slowing down the note. However, the note destroys the nexus 10 on all benchmarks (if it matters anyway).
Screen sharpness I would say is the same. However, I prefer the colours on the note 10 as the nexus 10 feels underwhelming.
Both have stereo speakers and the nexus 10 has the edge because of its placement. But the note 10 isnt bad, it is actually loud I dont mind the speakers facing sideways.
I bought the note 10 because I need the stylus. I bring my note 10 to work everyday and use the stylus all the time. If I didnt need the stylus then I would be sticking with my nexus 10.
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I agree with everything you said except with the responsiveness. I'm not saying you are wrong it laying, but in my experience, I almost have the same configuration right now that I had in the Nexus: Same launcher, same keyboard, same apps. I'm using it exactly the same way I used to use my Nexus, and I can tell you I've never had in my hands a tablet that responsive. It is far more responsive than my Note II as well. I tried the Nexus 10 with all the stick operating system except KitKat, Cyanogenmod, Paranoid Android and Revolt. 4.3 helped but the Nexus had been never at the level of the Note. This is just my experience, and I've seen a lot of divergence I'm the comments of people so I cannot tell you exactly what makes the difference.
By the way, I forgot to mention I bought the Nexus 10 the first week it came out, so maybe they did a running change in the hardware that improved performance in more modern models.
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Im comparing it stock vs stock. No 3rd party launchers.
For ME, the nexus 10 "feels" faster, smoother and more responsive. Even if I know that the note 10 has a lot more power. The nexus 10 has come a long way with updates, and google have mostly polished the experience (it still stutters occasionally, but not as much as my note 10). I just hope samsung will continue optimizing this tablet and polish things out.
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Im comparing it stock vs stock. No 3rd party launchers.
For ME, the nexus 10 "feels" faster, smoother and more responsive. Even if I know that the note 10 has a lot more power. The nexus 10 has come a long way with updates, and google have mostly polished the experience (it still stutters occasionally, but not as much as my note 10). I just hope samsung will continue optimizing this tablet and polish things out.
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One of the apps in which I feel the difference the most is Chrome. Apart from the launcher, Chrome has been always sluggish to me on the Nexus 10. It works flawlessly in the Note.
The apps open much faster on the Note as well. And it moves between apps faster.
I definitely find the Note superior to the Nexus and I'm not trying to open a discussion up. This is just my mileage in case somebody find it helpful. Your mileage can vary of course.
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So I went to Bestbuy to try the table out.
I've left being very disappointed with its responsiveness. They had Exynos model runnings 4.3 android. The tablet was dead slow due to touchwiz.
Chrome was extremely slow opening new tabs and in navigation through web sites.
Samsung should really kill the touch wiz or produce Google Edition for every of its devices to run a stock android.
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jodvova said:
So I went to Bestbuy to try the table out.
I've left being very disappointed with its responsiveness. They had Exynos model runnings 4.3 android. The tablet was dead slow due to touchwiz.
Chrome was extremely slow opening new tabs and in navigation through web sites.
Samsung should really kill the touch wiz or produce Google Edition for every of its devices to run a stock android.
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Are you sure it was completely updated? Mine doesn't perform as the ones on bestbuy. Have into account that's a display model.
Anyways, not trying to convince you. You can stick with the Nexus 10. I cannot be happier having gotten rid of it, but if it works fine for you, why would you replace it?
I find it strange people complain about the lag in the new Note. I have the Note 10.1 2014 edition LTE version with Snapdragon and Chrome browser flies with it. It is a lot smoother than my old Note 10.1 ever was when browsing the web. I haven't encountered much lag elsewhere either. The home screen transitions were not silky smooth before I removed the widgets that were on the homescreens by default, but after that I really have no complaints there either.
Also the Note specific features are really well made this time in my opinion. Especially the new clipboard app is excellent with the pen (very quick to just cut and paste stuff with the pen while browsing the web or reading pdf magazines etc).
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I find it strange people complain about the lag in the new Note. I have the Note 10.1 2014 edition LTE version with Snapdragon and Chrome browser flies with it. It is a lot smoother than my old Note 10.1 ever was when browsing the web. I haven't encountered much lag elsewhere either. The home screen transitions were not silky smooth before I removed the widgets that were on the homescreens by default, but after that I really have no complaints there either.
Also the Note specific features are really well made this time in my opinion. Especially the new clipboard app is excellent with the pen (very quick to just cut and paste stuff with the pen while browsing the web or reading pdf magazines etc).
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I think it's the best tablet out there by a long far, and in fact, the only one that has satisfied me since the very first moment. Thus, I cannot agree more with you.
The nexus 10 took more than six months to solve the problem with the GPU driver. The little flaws in this thing have been solved within weeks.
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I find it strange people complain about the lag in the new Note. I have the Note 10.1 2014 edition LTE version with Snapdragon...
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Because most people do not have access to the Snapdragon version and are looking at the Exynos?
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Because most people do not have access to the Snapdragon version and are looking at the Exynos?
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It is still uncertain the difference in performance between the two is that big. I've read a little bit of everything already.
Ashade said:
Are you sure it was completely updated? Mine doesn't perform as the ones on bestbuy. Have into account that's a display model.
Anyways, not trying to convince you. You can stick with the Nexus 10. I cannot be happier having gotten rid of it, but if it works fine for you, why would you replace it?
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I don't know. I didn't try to update it via Check updates.
Maybe it was bloated with apps, 'cause still it's a demo version. But it was slow.
I had a lot of Samsung phones, Galaxy S2, S3, S4, S4 GE. I know the difference between Android with touchwiz and without it.
I hoped that a faster CPU can run touchwiz smoother, but there is no magic. Nexus 10 on latest 4.4 runs smoother.
Maybe I should try Snapdragon 800 version. Nexus 5 is uber fast on it.
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Because most people do not have access to the Snapdragon version and are looking at the Exynos?
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I have the Exynos. No problems t'all.
jodvova said:
I don't know. I didn't try to update it via Check updates.
Maybe it was bloated with apps, 'cause still it's a demo version. But it was slow.
I had a lot of Samsung phones, Galaxy S2, S3, S4, S4 GE. I know the difference between Android with touchwiz and without it.
I hoped that a faster CPU can run touchwiz smoother, but there is no magic. Nexus 10 on latest 4.4 runs smoother.
Maybe I should try Snapdragon 800 version. Nexus 5 is uber fast on it.
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The Nexus 5 is pushing far fewer pixels and bare bones Android so it should be uber fast. Anything running AOSP should be super fast. Again I had the Nexus 10 and now have the Exynos version of the Note 2014. I got rid of the Nexus 10 the week before I bought the Note. The Note blows the Nexus 10 out of the water even with the bloat of Touchwiz. The most important difference though is the battery life. The Note has almost double the battery life of the Nexus 10 with my usage. I do use the Note a lot more than the Nexus just because of the S pen for work. I would not trust a demo unit in a store and there are many reviews on the web for the Note 2014.