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Nexus S vs. Galaxy Nexus in "real world"

So recently I was looking at the TELUS store and some electronic places at some accessories and so forth. I can never resist checking out the latest phones out on display and the Galaxy Nexus was all alone so I walked on up to try it out.
I was very surprised to find that my Nexus S (CM9 with all my apps) was actually running far more responsively and cleanly then any Galaxy Nexus I have seen in stor or from a friend!
I know in store phones are always a bad comparison but on my friends Galaxy Nexus phone he had very few apps, and the rest stock but for some reason, it seemed like his phones touch response was just to off for me to like it.
Granted there is a large difference in the displays and Galaxy Nexus is powering a lot more then our Nexus S but keep in mind this is the flagship Android 4 phone, and in my choice, I prefer my Nexus S even considering the step up in processors.
(Before you say anything, I know that Galaxy Nexus has its own ROMs but that still shouldn't be a life saver in this case)
What do you guys think? Have you noticed the same things?

My brother has galaxy nexus (gummy rom)and it's much smoother than my nexus s(cm9 kang)…
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tonylee83 said:
My brother has galaxy nexus (gummy rom)and it's much smoother than my nexus s(cm9 kang)…
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Of course, since Galaxy Nexus has a lot better specs than Nexus S. It would be crazy if Nexus S is more smooth than Galaxy Nexus.
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You're comparing a customized nexus s to a stock galaxy nexus. Hardly seems fair. Compare stock to stock and then see if you feel the same way.

No. I get what he's saying. Customized or not the nexus s shouldn't compete. While I don't have a galaxy nexus yet I do have the epic touch 4g.. and no matter what I do to my nexus it will never ever compete with the raw power of the galaxy s II. I would have thought it would have been the same for the galaxy nexus...

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No. I get what he's saying. Customized or not the nexus s shouldn't compete. While I don't have a galaxy nexus yet I do have the epic touch 4g.. and no matter what I do to my nexus it will never ever compete with the raw power of the galaxy s II. I would have thought it would have been the same for the galaxy nexus...
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I'm pretty sure it is. Some people confuse the longer window animations in the default ICS as meaning the OS is slower. I highly doubt CM9 on a Nexus S is actually more "smooth" than the GN.

The GN is a powerhouse. There's simply no comparison. Of course a tweaked and customized OS is better. Also, the unresponsiveness may be because of the dirty screen from the crap other people put on it trying out the phone.
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I'm pretty surprised that you think that, having handled both myself, there really is no competition, even though I wish my phone could keep up.
As an aside though, the main reason I'm still here with a Nexus S, is because I find the GN to be extremely disappointing. Sure it beats a phone that's well over a year old now, but IMO, can't hang with the S2 at all. I think the S2 will be the big dog until the S3 comes out.

When making comparisons of "smoothness", I think we need to specify what action is being compared. I've never held an actual Galaxy Nexus, so can't comment on that. But my Nexus S with custom ROM & tweaks feels smoother when scrolling menus and snappier when loading apps compared to my brother's Galaxy SII. The SII, though, shows its superiority when playing video.

I've tried a Galaxy Nexus in a store nearby, and it is way more faster than my Nexus S. From unlocking the lockscreen, starting camera app, starting app drawer, loading settings etc. The GN was way more faster than my NS (running a stock based rom at the time)
And it would be strange if a phone running Android 4 on a chipset that was made for it would be less responsive

The gnex is way faster that my nexus s, the only way I even saw my nexus get close to the same speed was by overclocking it to 1.6 ghz, and even then the gnex destroyed it
I wouldn't get it tho, I agree with an earlier post about the galaxy s2 being more desirable than the gnex.
I mean look at how fast our nexus s got outdated, only a year ago this was the flagship gb phone that was supposed to be the best. gnex being the flagship 4.0 phone will be the same way, give it 2-3 months and something twice as crazy as the gnex will be announced, and at the rate of smartphone development with quad core being the next big thing the gnex will be outdated in less than a year

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the gnex will be outdated in less than a year
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Sadly, just like any smartphone on the market
But what I love with Nexus'es is that, even after a year or more, it's still supported like the first day and you always can profit of the last ROM's. Just look at the Galaxy S to see that it's not always so with non-Google phones of the same generation.
Still loving my Nexus S, even if I wouldn't say no to a Galaxy Nexus, especially for the HD display and the HDMI out

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So recently I was looking at the TELUS store and some electronic places at some accessories and so forth. I can never resist checking out the latest phones out on display and the Galaxy Nexus was all alone so I walked on up to try it out.
I was very surprised to find that my Nexus S (CM9 with all my apps) was actually running far more responsively and cleanly then any Galaxy Nexus I have seen in stor or from a friend!
I know in store phones are always a bad comparison but on my friends Galaxy Nexus phone he had very few apps, and the rest stock but for some reason, it seemed like his phones touch response was just to off for me to like it.
Granted there is a large difference in the displays and Galaxy Nexus is powering a lot more then our Nexus S but keep in mind this is the flagship Android 4 phone, and in my choice, I prefer my Nexus S even considering the step up in processors.
(Before you say anything, I know that Galaxy Nexus has its own ROMs but that still shouldn't be a life saver in this case)
What do you guys think? Have you noticed the same things?
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You tell yourself what ever you have to..... to keep yourself from upgrading
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Prefer the form factor of the nexus s.
galaxy nexus seems huge!

Whose build you are using on the Nexus plays a big part in how fast and smooth ICS is on Nexus. I flash one and it feels a little slow and almost choppy. Then I flash another and it flies and is so smooth. You can't go wrong with aokp, irtehun, or BuglessPete on Nexus. Can't say how it compares to GNex though
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I have both with stock rom... nexus s works better than gnex... less laggy and more responsive....
I hope with ICS 4.0.4 it works better..
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diegodbm said:
I have both with stock rom... nexus s works better than gnex... less laggy and more responsive....
I hope with ICS 4.0.4 it works better..
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You could send your GN to me if you dont want it hahaha
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LOL... but I don't think my gf want....
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gnex is the winner in every single aspect...by far! Sorry there is no competition.
The only thing were they are about the same is in development...they are the best android phone in the world.
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Is this a topic about some one having buyers remorse
With that said my nexus s runs so good I will hopefully go with the flagship Android 5.0 phone hopefully
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[Q] Should i get the Tab 7.7....or wait for the nexus tablet?

I need your opinions, should i get the Tab 7.7? or wait for the nexus tablet? I am liking the size (around 7) and the reviews of the 7.7 are all good. what do u think?

Well the GPS is topnoch, I havent had any problems with celldata or wifi, overall HC
isent that bad. In all I got to say the hardware kicks ass on stock HC and if ICS is an improvement thats a big extra!
Yup I like the 7.7, nice unit.

the nexus tablet is likely to be in the 200-250 range, while the 7.7 is around 500...the biggest reason to get the 7.7 is the super amoled plus screen. if you don't care about the screen quality, i would go with the google tablet.

I'm on the fence as well. Heard rumors that the Nexus won't have 3G. I'll gladly get a Galaxy Tab then.
Can't tell for sure until the Nexus is officially unveiled.

I'd wait.
Even of the nexus hasn't got 3g what it will do is quickly drive down android tablet costs. If Google push a nexus device (nexus phones are pushed as being the pinnacle of Android design) for 200 then Samsung and everyone else will have difficulty keeping a 100%+ premium over it.
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I would wait for Android tablets to catch up with the iPad3 dpi before buying, which I hope will begin to happen with the next generation of premium Android tablets.

MdSaif said:
I need your opinions, should i get the Tab 7.7? or wait for the nexus tablet? I am liking the size (around 7) and the reviews of the 7.7 are all good. what do u think?
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I am married to SAMOLED+, a wacom digitizer, and screen casting capabilities. So far the only device to satisfy all three has been the samsung galaxy note. But this screen is just SO much larger, it was worth the extra real estate. This is the first really operable digital sketchpad, i'd say over the ipad(screen quality) and the gNote(size). It is imperfect only in thst it lacks a wacom digitizer in my opinion.
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Ive sold my 7.7 in prep for the nexus.
7.7 is a dead platform for anything new.
If the nexus is missing 3g ill use my phone as its hot spot when needed
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I have a feeling the nexus 7 won't have an Micro-SD slot. :[
I'm going to hold out as long as i can ;p
Maybe i'll buy it and have two tabs. $199 is cheap lol

Ive thought about the micro sd and don't see it as an issue as long as there is an sd card/usb host adapter, then on long journeys we can still have movies etc on that
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What would the nexus at $200 have to offer asside from Android 5? I dont think it would be a supperior tab to the current 7.7 and the possible lack of 3g it would mean you would have to carry 2 devices. Until no more 3g+wife tabs are released i will never consider anything else less. Just my 2 cents
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billytkid said:
Ive sold my 7.7 in prep for the nexus.
7.7 is a dead platform for anything new.
If the nexus is missing 3g ill use my phone as its hot spot when needed
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How is the 7.7 a "dead platform"? There will be an ICS update some time this summer, and the hardware will be superior to the Nexus in most ways.

adinis78 said:
What would the nexus at $200 have to offer asside from Android 5? I dont think it would be a supperior tab to the current 7.7 and the possible lack of 3g it would mean you would have to carry 2 devices. Until no more 3g+wife tabs are released i will never consider anything else less. Just my 2 cents
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I own a galaxy nexus and the user experience blows honeycomb out of the water. The software experience could be enough to sway a purchase. You don't need to Carry two tabs either lol. Can leave one at home for home media purposes or something. One for desk at work, etc... or just buy it and evaluate two, sell one of em later.
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I own a galaxy nexus and the user experience blows honeycomb out of the water. The software experience could be enough to sway a purchase. You don't need to Carry two tabs either lol. Can leave one at home for home media purposes or something. One for desk at work, etc... or just buy it and evaluate two, sell one of em later.
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At a supposed price of $200 i doubt it will be a superior item, i understand the Nexus is a top line (Nexus phones) i dont see at this price what it can try and compete with. The Kindle? Maybe. The Ipad, not in a million years.
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The leaked specs for the Nexus 7 look decent enough and handily seem to wipe the floor with the kindle fire. I doubt i'll just give up this beautiful 7.7 without evaluating things anyways. And who mentioned an iPad? I could give 2 ****es about the iPad ;p

For those interested or wanting a nexus tablet read this:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/27/3120884/google-nexus-7-first-image-leak
All it is, is a Kindle and Nook competitor. I'll stick with my 7.7 and i would recommed getting 7.7 (international vertion 3g+wifi)
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Well now that the specs are out, I'm still happy with my last week purchase of the GT 7.7. I can increase storage and have a better screen. Only outspecced by BT 4 on the Nexus 7, if it has BT 4.
Plus I have to say comparing the Exynos of the GT 7.7 to the Tegra3 of the Transformer Prime, it feels snappier than the Prime, and that is on 3.2 HC! Cant wait for ICS (or hopefully much rather JB!) on it.
Haven't tried gaming on th GT 7.7 though.

Maybe it is just in the videos I've seen but does the screen rotate to landscape mode or is it stuck in portrait?

Here's my take on the two tablets.
1. Memory
I think the lack of micro SD slot on the Nexus is a big disadvantage compared to the Sammy 7.7. You can pick up 64gb micro SD cards now for $60-80. Depending on your main uses, 16gb (or worse still 8gb) can be very limiting if you throw on some music and some 720p videos, let alone games.
I have the HDMI dongle for the Sammy and can output 1080p to a TV which is great when traveling.
2. Camera
The Nexus also appears to miss out on a rear-facing camera (not a big deal imo but another point of difference).
3. Battery
Samsung battery appears to be almost 18% bigger (5100mah v 4325mah).
4. Form factor
The form factor of the Nexus would seem to be not quite as slick as the 7.7:
Nexus 7: 198.5 x 120 x 10.45mm
Samsung 7.7: 196.7 x 133 x 7.9 mm
Weight appears to be same (or thereabouts).
With a smaller screen and less features, I would have thought that the Nexus could have been a bit trimmer.
5. Software
On the other hand we probably won't see Jelly Bean on the Samsung for another year, if at all.
Jelly Bean supposedly has Project Butter enhancements to make the OS smoother and slicker, however given the performance of the S2 on ICS I think I'd be relatively happy with ICS on the 7.7.
Overall I don't really see the need for a quad core processor when the dual core is still perfectly capable. I'm not prepared to compromise on the above factors for the processor alone, the benefits of which are debatable given how much better the Exynos architecture seems to be.
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I forgot to add that whilst I wouldn't give up my 7.7, the introduction of the Nexus 7 can only be a good thing as it will raise awareness of Android tablets and lower the barrier to entry, ie. cost, effectively bringing Android to the masses by a respected vendor.
More competition = better products.

Gilbot said:
I have a feeling the nexus 7 won't have an Micro-SD slot. :[
I'm going to hold out as long as i can ;p
Maybe i'll buy it and have two tabs. $199 is cheap lol
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None Nexus device have SD card slot yet...
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I pre ordered a nexus 7 but now thinking of cancelling

I ordered it mostly just because jellybean looks so awesome i had to have it. But now that the benchmarks have been released along with the full specs, im actually now somewhat convinced it is inferior to my ics running n7000, or at the least equal. I ran the gl 2.1 benchmark that anandtech ran and my stock (not overclocked ) note actually scored higher in all 4 benchmarks than the "12 core" tegra 3. So besides battery life and jellybean, im pretty meh at this point. Anyone else have similar feelings? Or am i really missing something?
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For the price point; the Nexus 7 is a nice investment. The specs are solid. If you have disposable income it's hard not to throw $200 at the 7 and at the very least make it a part of your coffee table.
I'm in the boat that I will upgrade my Note to the Note 2 as no doubt the spec leap will be much bigger than the Nexus 7.

Dude the price is low for that 7"
So it worth it x2 each dollar, if you r looking an upgrade just wait the note 2 or other device
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I'm with you in debating on it OP.
I've yet to put an order in as the Note 2 looks rather promising, however watching media on the 7" display would be lovely, and Tegra 3 aught to have enough power to handle S/W decoding of 10bit 720p, but I've also read that the S3 seems to handle it fine, and if the Note 2 will be a 'larger S3' then I might as well save the money and wait.
It's a tough decision, since it's realistically the best 7" tablet to come out yet.

LxMxFxD said:
I ordered it mostly just because jellybean looks so awesome i had to have it. But now that the benchmarks have been released along with the full specs, im actually now somewhat convinced it is inferior to my ics running n7000, or at the least equal. I ran the gl 2.1 benchmark that anandtech ran and my stock (not overclocked ) note actually scored higher in all 4 benchmarks than the "12 core" tegra 3. So besides battery life and jellybean, im pretty meh at this point. Anyone else have similar feelings? Or am i really missing something?
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Haha benchmarks, it'll handle whatever you throw at it and with custom roms on it will be even better...stop worrying about benchmarks they really don't mean **** on phones and tablets.
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Nexus banned in USA ,i wont buy it.
S3 better still.
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nexus 7 = cheap!
haha, for $209, I can use it as my cutting board while I look at videos on how to cook.
or even use it for the bathroom!
or have the kids use it as a frisbee.
it's not banned here. and to get vanilla jelly bean without buying a nexus phone, that's cheap. can't wait!

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Nexus banned in USA ,i wont buy it.
S3 better still.
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Apparently you can't read, he's talking about the nexus 7 TABLET, keep thinking you know what your talking about.
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Can't wait for my nexus 7 tablet

What is the point of buying it if you are basing that decision on purely benchmarks and OS version?
Are you actually going to make use of the extra screen space compared to the note?
If yes buy it, if not dont, simple

The Nexus 7" looks amazing for the price. The only downside is the lack of SD card slot.
I'm not sure if they left it out for cost reasons or to avoid annoying the other manufacturers.
I won't personally be getting one as I'm holding off buying a tablet until Win 8. You just know someone will bring out a device that dual boots in to win8 and android.

About a month ago I bought a Galaxy Tab 2 (7") for my Fiance as she wanted something like a kindle but that did a bit more. 16 Gb was £200 if the Nexus Tab has been out for £150 with better spec and newer OS I would have thought that was a great buy if you want a 7" tab.
I dont get this comparing tabs and phones. Its like comparing apples and oranges. Both fruits but not the same thing.
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The Lum said:
About a month ago I bought a Galaxy Tab 2 (7") for my Fiance as she wanted something like a kindle but that did a bit more. 16 Gb was £200 if the Nexus Tab has been out for £150 with better spec and newer OS I would have thought that was a great buy if you want a 7" tab.
I dont get this comparing tabs and phones. Its like comparing apples and oranges. Both fruits but not the same thing.
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Except that the galaxy note is a phablet, a hybrid device. Thus the issue here.
To the person who said I only used benchmarks, not exactly. I was just saying that the 1.4ghz dualcore exynos with mali400 seems to still be a top dog and even beats/equals the "12core" tegra 3. Pretty impressive.
I do know the nexus 7 is a great device for $200. It doesn't have everything a galaxy note has like mhl, 5ghz wifi or sdslot but in terms of raw performance, screen resolution the $249 version is equal to my 16gb GT-N7000. No doubt it is an impressive device for the price. I found a deal on mine at Jr.com for $222 shipped 16GB version but that pre-order quickly sold out.
Even still I hesitate. It will probably only be a couple of months before the devs make a good port of jellybean for our note. Having a pure google device however does appeal to me. I'm still torn. Luckily it wont ship for another 10 days so I have all that time to decide.

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S3 better still.
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That is the Galaxy Nexus phone, not the Nexus 7 tablet. Personally, the Galaxy Note eliminates the need of a tablet for me.

It's 7 inches. Not even 2 full inches of difference between the Note and Nexus. And you can put the Note in your pocket and take it everywhere with you. And since Nexus 7 does not use full tablet UI - it's basically "a bigger note" ( exaggeration for purpose of the thread ).
It all depends on your needs though. I really prefer to have just 1 device that i can carry everywhere, always. Tablets, even 7" are not that mobile despite all the marketing.

If its any help i currently take my note with me everywherr daily. I use my Galaxy Tab 10.1 for browsing, gaming and watching movies (in bed). I use the Galaxy Tab 2 for reading and general messing about.
I admit 1 person doesnt need all 3 in their life but I do prefer web browsing at home on either of the tabs as I find it better with the bigger screens and the same for reading and movie watching whilst at home.
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Akiainavas said:
It's 7 inches. Not even 2 full inches of difference between the Note and Nexus. And you can put the Note in your pocket and take it everywhere with you. And since Nexus 7 does not use full tablet UI - it's basically "a bigger note" ( exaggeration for purpose of the thread ).
It all depends on your needs though. I really prefer to have just 1 device that i can carry everywhere, always. Tablets, even 7" are not that mobile despite all the marketing.
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There won't be any tablet ui in jellybean, it's gonna be universal like the galaxy nexus looks. Jellybean fully merges the tablet and phone ui together 100%. Any tablet that will support jellybean will look like the nexus 7 ui, no more tablet look.
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There won't be any tablet ui in jellybean, it's gonna be universal like the galaxy nexus looks. Jellybean fully merges the tablet and phone ui together 100%. Any tablet that will support jellybean will look like the nexus 7 ui, no more tablet look.
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Good thing Chameleon is coming out soon then ;-)
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sway40 said:
There won't be any tablet ui in jellybean, it's gonna be universal like the galaxy nexus looks. Jellybean fully merges the tablet and phone ui together 100%. Any tablet that will support jellybean will look like the nexus 7 ui, no more tablet look.
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That's not true. In another thread I read someone has already hacked the Nexus 7 to give it a tablet ui.

Akiainavas said:
It's 7 inches. Not even 2 full inches of difference between the Note and Nexus. And you can put the Note in your pocket and take it everywhere with you. And since Nexus 7 does not use full tablet UI - it's basically "a bigger note" ( exaggeration for purpose of the thread ).
It all depends on your needs though. I really prefer to have just 1 device that i can carry everywhere, always. Tablets, even 7" are not that mobile despite all the marketing.
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The Note is also a phone and has 3G... and 2 good cameras.
The Nexus 7 is a nice tablet (low end price with good specs) but it cant be the only device to take, a good companion to a phone maybe.

Is the tab 10.1 still a good choice today?

Hello,
How are you?
So, I'm thinking about buying a tablet.
My main goal is to have a biggest, more comfortable device for web browsing to complement my galaxy nexus.
I was thinking about a nexus 7, but being too close on size to my nexus, made me consider a 10 inch model.
I liked the fact that the nexus 7 is updated by Google and runs stock android, but there seems to be a good community of support for Samsung tabs, and with ROMs like cm9 and cm10, that might not be the deal breaker.
I also looked at the Acer a700, because of its screen. The high res is really appealing, but the price is around 400.
I can get a sweet deal on a tab 10.1, for 200 Euros. So, is it a good bet today?
Thanks.
Cheers
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I'm happy with it especially after ics update
But why don't consider Asus prime?, note 10.1?
Or wait for the next generation from Samsung I think it will be soon

10.1 inch is good for broswe internet go ahead and get ur tab

aelsharawi said:
I'm happy with it especially after ics update
But why don't consider Asus prime?, note 10.1?
Or wait for the next generation from Samsung I think it will be soon
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The reason I'm interested in the tab 10.1 is mainly the price.
At this time I don't know if I would use a tablet all that much.
At first I'm guessing I would just use it in the couch to do some web browsing.
When I go out, I usually just take my nexus in my pocket and it pretty much covers my on the go needs.
If I have a tablet, I might take out out sometimes, but my fear is not using it enough. That's why I am not thinking about a tf700 or iPad 3. I just think I would not use them enough and would probably feel sorry for spending 600 on a device to sit on the shelf...
Anyway, does the tab 10.1 still holds it's own against those tegra 3 tablets?
How is web browsing with the screen's low PPI?
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gdourado said:
The reason I'm interested in the tab 10.1 is mainly the price.
At this time I don't know if I would use a tablet all that much.
At first I'm guessing I would just use it in the couch to do some web browsing.
When I go out, I usually just take my nexus in my pocket and it pretty much covers my on the go needs.
If I have a tablet, I might take out out sometimes, but my fear is not using it enough. That's why I am not thinking about a tf700 or iPad 3. I just think I would not use them enough and would probably feel sorry for spending 600 on a device to sit on the shelf...
Anyway, does the tab 10.1 still holds it's own against those tegra 3 tablets?
How is web browsing with the screen's low PPI?
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I got my wife a Tab 10.1 on clearance ($250) a couple of months ago. I bought my Nexus 7 at the same time. The only time there's a difference between us performance-wise is 3d gaming. All other times there's no real difference.
EDIT: She's very happy with the device for web browsing.

johnqevil said:
I got my wife a Tab 10.1 on clearance ($250) a couple of months ago. I bought my Nexus 7 at the same time. The only time there's a difference between us performance-wise is 3d gaming. All other times there's no real difference.
EDIT: She's very happy with the device for web browsing.
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Thank you for your reply.
That is really helpful.
can you tell me your opinion about the difference in PPI from both models, since they both have the same resolution, but the nexus is smaller?
Also, how is the tab for typing with the thumbs in portrait mode?
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A modded 10.1 with performance tweaks is a joy to use. Battery life is sick @ 7000mah too. I have one for myself and one for the wife and they're wonderful. The kernel I'm running is OC'd to 1.4GHz and GPU @ 400 so while it's still not a match for newer devices, 3d games are still running nicely. A build.prop tweak for increasing buffer size will make web browsing even more enjoyable and most custom roms account for that, I've found.
In portrait mode the tab is still a bit wide...if you have long thumbs you shouldn't have any issues. If you were cursed with bitty digits stick with landscape and key the way you normally would.

I don't know anything about the Tegra 3 devices but I can tell you about my experience with the GT7500 . The main reason I got it was for Web browsing and watching video content on my daily commute. I really like using using this device and I may be imagining it but the display seems crisper since ICS updated. If you can get one really cheap I say buy it

I think it is
I think it is an option, is fast, convenient and runs android. The only think i guess should be reconsidered, is the price since with the introduction of the Kindle Fire HD, its price is now prohibitive.

If you can get it for under 250, I would think so. If you're a spec freak, you might prefer a quad core but you'll pay a lot more for a ten incher.
It depends on what you plan on doing on the tablet.

Yes, I can get it under 250 and I just plan on using it for web browsing, tapatalk, some note taking, videos... no gaming. Just maybe the occasional angry birds type of game.
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No. There are better and cheaper options.
ASUS is a better choice..bang for the buck.
Google Nexus is pretty sweet also.
I own these Samsung Galaxy tabs gentlemen...this is an unbiased opinion.
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İn my opinion,in this year (Q4 2012) Galaxy tab 10.1 is still nice tablet.but in 2013 GTab 10.1 become old.my advice is you should not take it.wait 2013 :good:

Hello.
I know it is not state of the art, but all I want is a tablet to web browse on the couch or on the coffee shop.
I am also thinking about an original Motorola xoom. It is almost the same specs as the tab 10.1, but it runs stock android without the need for custom ROMs.
If I get any of the two cheap enough, maybe I could resell them in a couple of months and then pick a better 2013 tablet without much loss.
And until then I could have a nice tablet to browse...
Thoughts?
Does a 1920x1200 screen make a huge difference in browsing experience? Is it worth twice the money?
Cheers! And thanks
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In my opinion the only good thing ever to come from Motorola was their MC68000 CPU chip.
And that is very ancient computer history..
Motorola products do not have good track records.
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Argos have been knocking them out at "half price" in the UK. Mainly 3G models left for home delivery. Likely to be as rare as hens teeth in store. I've ordered a 16GB 3G model for £250 (it's being delivered tomorrow ). Seems like good value to me.
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Check in store stock at iCheckStock

So, how is the state of CM10 development for the tab 10.1?
Already with project butter and stable?
Cheers
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I can tell you that prior to the ICS update, I was very unhappy with the Galaxy Tab 10.1. It was frustratingly slow, and using it was not a pleasant experience. Then I bought a Nexus 7 and totally fell in love with it. I did end up tweaking it with Nova launcher, but did not root it. After the ICS update I still wasn't happy with the performance of the Galaxy Tab 10.1. Then I added Nova launcher and the same tweaks as for the Nexus 7. Did not root the Galaxy tablet either. And the performance seems to have improved so I am no longer complaining. However, I have to say that I still rarely use the 10" tablet. For me the 7" form factor and the higher pixel density works better. Or the weight. The 10" tablet never leaves the house, and rarely leaves the bedroom. The 7" tablet goes everywhere. I would recommend giving some thought to what size works for you best. Each has it's advantages and disadvantages. The 10" tablet should be better at note taking. I've seen lots of comments that the 10" should be better for videos and web browsing, but that hasn't been my experience. The Nexus 7 seems to have more apps available for it. For example, Flipboard is available for the Nexus 7, but not for the Galaxy tab. (It works fine on the Galaxy tablet, you just can't get the apk from the Google Play store.) If I had $250 to spend and did not have either tablet, I would either buy the Nexus 7, or save up for a better 10" tablet. I don't think the original Galaxy Tab 10.1 is worth $250, not when you can get a tablet that works better for $199.

For the usage you describe either the galaxy tab 10.1 or the xyboard would suffice (the later having microSD expandability). If the Asus Transformer TF300 is in the same price range the it is worthy of a look too (tegra 3), though I'm not sure what the status of development is for that device.
It has taken a long time for development to get to the point that it has for the galaxy tab 10.1 due to how long Samsung decided to wait to release ICS. CM9 development is far along with CM10 still needing work. There are some great devs here as in other device forums.
As for screen resolution one would expect that despite the color accuracy issues of the nexus 7's screen the higher pixel density of that panel would render text better and in my comparison between the two (I own both) that is the case so I would expect no different from a 1080p screen on a 10-inch form factor. That said the 10.1 does have a very nice panel and it's adequate for the use you describe.
Its great that you're doing the research so that you enter into your purchase eyes wide open. Know that you're buying into an aging platform and make sure you can live with the tradeoffs that come with that in order to get the lower price you're looking for.
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I thank you for your insights!
There are really helpful info here!
In regard to the nexus 7, it is a device that is also on my mind. Mainly because as I said, I love my nexus phone and the whole nexus experience of stock android and updates from Google.
Does who own both, how is the web browsing on the 7? Does the higher PPI makes up for the smaller screen?
How is using nexus 7 vs a smartphone like the galaxy nexus? Very different? Or is it a close experience?
Cheers and thanks!
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Thinking of returning my tf300...

Okay, so a little over a week, and I'm thinking of returning this, and getting a note 10.1.
Sounds is a little quiet. Word processing isn't that great, considering it's got is own keyboard dock. There is some keyboard lag.
I love the quick charging, touchpad though.
Biggest problem is the flex. This tablet creaks and flexes. Makes me a little worried about durability. Any thoughts and input would be welcomed.
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mrbkkt1 said:
Okay, so a little over a week, and I'm thinking of returning this, and getting a note 10.1.
Sounds is a little quiet. Word processing isn't that great, considering it's got is own keyboard dock. There is some keyboard lag.
I love the quick charging, touchpad though.
Biggest problem is the flex. This tablet creaks and flexes. Makes me a little worried about durability. Any thoughts and input would be welcomed.
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I personally have a tf300, and I work at Best Buy where I have sold dozens of them (many with docks). Our display model goes through ALOT of abuse with our customers, kids, and my co-workers who don't know how to use it, or set the device in it. It still works perfectly fine, and has no problems. I can vouch for the durability of the tablet and its dock. I really think this is the one of the best tablets. I am also familiar with the Note. Its expensive, but its another favorite at Best Buy. One of the most advanced tabs we sell. No dock though.

Ended up returning it. Bought a note from Costco for $430.
Hopefully the next generation of transformer has its own " office" suite that works flawless. Also, reading the forums has me thinking that I shouldn't have updated to jellybean out of the box. The note is just much " sturdier" , no flex.
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I just don't see $130 worth of difference between it and the Asus though. I've only got $359 invested in my tab AND dock and it's nice. I have no idea what you're talking about dock keyboard lag either. I've used mine a bunch and never once experienced any lag.
When it all boils down to it, all that matters is that you are happy with it though.
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wetbiker7 said:
I just don't see $130 worth of difference between it and the Asus though. I've only got $359 invested in my tab AND dock and it's nice. I have no idea what you're talking about dock keyboard lag either. I've used mine a bunch and never once experienced any lag.
When it all boils down to it, all that matters is that you are happy with it though.
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No lag in the stock note app, but in Polaris, kingsoft, and quick office pro. I think that is on the edge of being perfect, next version I will consider.
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stick with the note forget asus

R3Z4545 said:
stick with the note forget asus
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+1 for note 10.1. Keyboard dock is the only thing that Asus tf300 better than 10.1.
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tritran18518 said:
+1 for note 10.1. Keyboard dock is the only thing that Asus tf300 better than 10.1.
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Yeah but that dock is a huge PLUS. I love mine. The added battery life is nice too.

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you didn't unlock the tablet? the 300 is a monster with a unlocked bootloader and cleanrom, better yet the fastest tablet out next to the tf700...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...iew-an-embarrassing-lazy-arrogant-money-grab/
http://cdn.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/nexusae0_wm_do-not-buy.jpg

tritran18518 said:
+1 for note 10.1. Keyboard dock is the only thing that Asus tf300 better than 10.1.
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Samsung take forever to release updates (it took them over 3 months to get Jelly Bean on the Note 10.1 when the TF300 already had it).
The Note 10.1 also just doesn't feel as premium compared to the TF300.
The only real benefits I can see that the Note 10.1 has are: Audio, Faster Processor and an extra 1GB of RAM.

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you didn't unlock the tablet? the 300 is a monster with a unlocked bootloader and cleanrom, better yet the fastest tablet out next to the tf700...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...iew-an-embarrassing-lazy-arrogant-money-grab/
http://cdn.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/nexusae0_wm_do-not-buy.jpg
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I try not to root my tablets, only my phones. I lost a couple of documents while typing them. Kind of put me off, but the killer is the weight balance and flex. Never reallly felt comfortable holding it wth one hand. Also, for pure speed, I would have bought an n10. I did enjoy the fast charging and extended battery with the dock, not to mention the touchpad.
The note definitely has a more premium feel in hand, aspecially the balance and glass surface. Resolution ist as good though.
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you can wait what other samsung tablets get release this year
samsung takes it time to update but so does asus they might see 4.2 before us

Asus are generally quick with updates in my opinion. The transformer TF300 was one of the first devices (outside of the nexus devices) to receive JB if i'm not mistaken
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It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.

They are already porting 4.2.1...It's easy because the nexus 7 is the TF300T minus sd card and dock(7 inch screen).
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I really do think that Asus has something here. I love the galaxy note as well. If I could basically take the camera and dock from the Asus and merge it with the note, I would have a perfect tablet.
Also a dedicated word processing app that works flawless with no chance of data loss.
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Admiral2145 said:
you didn't unlock the tablet? the 300 is a monster with a unlocked bootloader and cleanrom, better yet the fastest tablet out next to the tf700...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...iew-an-embarrassing-lazy-arrogant-money-grab/
http://cdn.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/nexusae0_wm_do-not-buy.jpg
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- Well, back plastic of our tf300 just a little better than the note 10.1 but users will buy a case anyway so that is not a a bif problem , i think.
- 10.1 runs slowly on stock rom. Same thing happen to our tf300. Stock rom on our tablet is [email protected] ( can't even load webpages normally)
- camera, i believe most users don't usually use their tab to take pics
==> for $100 more , note 10.1 have better processor, 2gb ram, s-pen, better display. I think note 10.1 is better choice if you have money to buy one. Or even buy an ipad 3, which is very good for daily use.
p/s: i bought my tab from craiglist for $230 and for that amount of money, i have nothing to complain about. But if i bought this tab with full price, i will regret for sure.

tritran18518 said:
- Well, back plastic of our tf300 just a little better than the note 10.1 but users will buy a case anyway so that is not a a bif problem , i think.
- 10.1 runs slowly on stock rom. Same thing happen to our tf300. Stock rom on our tablet is [email protected] ( can't even load webpages normally)
- camera, i believe most users don't usually use their tab to take pics
==> for $100 more , note 10.1 have better processor, 2gb ram, s-pen, better display. I think note 10.1 is better choice if you have money to buy one. Or even buy an ipad 3, which is very good for daily use.
p/s: i bought my tab from craiglist for $230 and for that amount of money, i have nothing to complain about. But if i bought this tab with full price, i will regret for sure.
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I disagree on the back. The note 2 has way less flex but isn't as grippy.
Agree on the camera, I rarely use them.
The display on the tf300 kicks the crap on the note resolution wise, but I love using the s pen. It's a wash, cause the screen (gorilla glass) makes me trust the Note more.
As far as cases, almost impossible to buy a tf300 case without going online, I went the lazy route and for it from Best buy for the note.
All of these could have been avoided maybe by buying the 700 but price wise, it just brought me back to the Note. Do miss the usb drive though.
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