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[Q] Should i get the Tab 7.7....or wait for the nexus tablet?

I need your opinions, should i get the Tab 7.7? or wait for the nexus tablet? I am liking the size (around 7) and the reviews of the 7.7 are all good. what do u think?

Well the GPS is topnoch, I havent had any problems with celldata or wifi, overall HC
isent that bad. In all I got to say the hardware kicks ass on stock HC and if ICS is an improvement thats a big extra!
Yup I like the 7.7, nice unit.

the nexus tablet is likely to be in the 200-250 range, while the 7.7 is around 500...the biggest reason to get the 7.7 is the super amoled plus screen. if you don't care about the screen quality, i would go with the google tablet.

I'm on the fence as well. Heard rumors that the Nexus won't have 3G. I'll gladly get a Galaxy Tab then.
Can't tell for sure until the Nexus is officially unveiled.

I'd wait.
Even of the nexus hasn't got 3g what it will do is quickly drive down android tablet costs. If Google push a nexus device (nexus phones are pushed as being the pinnacle of Android design) for 200 then Samsung and everyone else will have difficulty keeping a 100%+ premium over it.
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I would wait for Android tablets to catch up with the iPad3 dpi before buying, which I hope will begin to happen with the next generation of premium Android tablets.

MdSaif said:
I need your opinions, should i get the Tab 7.7? or wait for the nexus tablet? I am liking the size (around 7) and the reviews of the 7.7 are all good. what do u think?
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I am married to SAMOLED+, a wacom digitizer, and screen casting capabilities. So far the only device to satisfy all three has been the samsung galaxy note. But this screen is just SO much larger, it was worth the extra real estate. This is the first really operable digital sketchpad, i'd say over the ipad(screen quality) and the gNote(size). It is imperfect only in thst it lacks a wacom digitizer in my opinion.
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Ive sold my 7.7 in prep for the nexus.
7.7 is a dead platform for anything new.
If the nexus is missing 3g ill use my phone as its hot spot when needed
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I have a feeling the nexus 7 won't have an Micro-SD slot. :[
I'm going to hold out as long as i can ;p
Maybe i'll buy it and have two tabs. $199 is cheap lol

Ive thought about the micro sd and don't see it as an issue as long as there is an sd card/usb host adapter, then on long journeys we can still have movies etc on that
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What would the nexus at $200 have to offer asside from Android 5? I dont think it would be a supperior tab to the current 7.7 and the possible lack of 3g it would mean you would have to carry 2 devices. Until no more 3g+wife tabs are released i will never consider anything else less. Just my 2 cents
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billytkid said:
Ive sold my 7.7 in prep for the nexus.
7.7 is a dead platform for anything new.
If the nexus is missing 3g ill use my phone as its hot spot when needed
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How is the 7.7 a "dead platform"? There will be an ICS update some time this summer, and the hardware will be superior to the Nexus in most ways.

adinis78 said:
What would the nexus at $200 have to offer asside from Android 5? I dont think it would be a supperior tab to the current 7.7 and the possible lack of 3g it would mean you would have to carry 2 devices. Until no more 3g+wife tabs are released i will never consider anything else less. Just my 2 cents
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I own a galaxy nexus and the user experience blows honeycomb out of the water. The software experience could be enough to sway a purchase. You don't need to Carry two tabs either lol. Can leave one at home for home media purposes or something. One for desk at work, etc... or just buy it and evaluate two, sell one of em later.
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Gilbot said:
I own a galaxy nexus and the user experience blows honeycomb out of the water. The software experience could be enough to sway a purchase. You don't need to Carry two tabs either lol. Can leave one at home for home media purposes or something. One for desk at work, etc... or just buy it and evaluate two, sell one of em later.
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At a supposed price of $200 i doubt it will be a superior item, i understand the Nexus is a top line (Nexus phones) i dont see at this price what it can try and compete with. The Kindle? Maybe. The Ipad, not in a million years.
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The leaked specs for the Nexus 7 look decent enough and handily seem to wipe the floor with the kindle fire. I doubt i'll just give up this beautiful 7.7 without evaluating things anyways. And who mentioned an iPad? I could give 2 ****es about the iPad ;p

For those interested or wanting a nexus tablet read this:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/27/3120884/google-nexus-7-first-image-leak
All it is, is a Kindle and Nook competitor. I'll stick with my 7.7 and i would recommed getting 7.7 (international vertion 3g+wifi)
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Well now that the specs are out, I'm still happy with my last week purchase of the GT 7.7. I can increase storage and have a better screen. Only outspecced by BT 4 on the Nexus 7, if it has BT 4.
Plus I have to say comparing the Exynos of the GT 7.7 to the Tegra3 of the Transformer Prime, it feels snappier than the Prime, and that is on 3.2 HC! Cant wait for ICS (or hopefully much rather JB!) on it.
Haven't tried gaming on th GT 7.7 though.

Maybe it is just in the videos I've seen but does the screen rotate to landscape mode or is it stuck in portrait?

Here's my take on the two tablets.
1. Memory
I think the lack of micro SD slot on the Nexus is a big disadvantage compared to the Sammy 7.7. You can pick up 64gb micro SD cards now for $60-80. Depending on your main uses, 16gb (or worse still 8gb) can be very limiting if you throw on some music and some 720p videos, let alone games.
I have the HDMI dongle for the Sammy and can output 1080p to a TV which is great when traveling.
2. Camera
The Nexus also appears to miss out on a rear-facing camera (not a big deal imo but another point of difference).
3. Battery
Samsung battery appears to be almost 18% bigger (5100mah v 4325mah).
4. Form factor
The form factor of the Nexus would seem to be not quite as slick as the 7.7:
Nexus 7: 198.5 x 120 x 10.45mm
Samsung 7.7: 196.7 x 133 x 7.9 mm
Weight appears to be same (or thereabouts).
With a smaller screen and less features, I would have thought that the Nexus could have been a bit trimmer.
5. Software
On the other hand we probably won't see Jelly Bean on the Samsung for another year, if at all.
Jelly Bean supposedly has Project Butter enhancements to make the OS smoother and slicker, however given the performance of the S2 on ICS I think I'd be relatively happy with ICS on the 7.7.
Overall I don't really see the need for a quad core processor when the dual core is still perfectly capable. I'm not prepared to compromise on the above factors for the processor alone, the benefits of which are debatable given how much better the Exynos architecture seems to be.
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I forgot to add that whilst I wouldn't give up my 7.7, the introduction of the Nexus 7 can only be a good thing as it will raise awareness of Android tablets and lower the barrier to entry, ie. cost, effectively bringing Android to the masses by a respected vendor.
More competition = better products.

Gilbot said:
I have a feeling the nexus 7 won't have an Micro-SD slot. :[
I'm going to hold out as long as i can ;p
Maybe i'll buy it and have two tabs. $199 is cheap lol
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None Nexus device have SD card slot yet...
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I pre ordered a nexus 7 but now thinking of cancelling

I ordered it mostly just because jellybean looks so awesome i had to have it. But now that the benchmarks have been released along with the full specs, im actually now somewhat convinced it is inferior to my ics running n7000, or at the least equal. I ran the gl 2.1 benchmark that anandtech ran and my stock (not overclocked ) note actually scored higher in all 4 benchmarks than the "12 core" tegra 3. So besides battery life and jellybean, im pretty meh at this point. Anyone else have similar feelings? Or am i really missing something?
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For the price point; the Nexus 7 is a nice investment. The specs are solid. If you have disposable income it's hard not to throw $200 at the 7 and at the very least make it a part of your coffee table.
I'm in the boat that I will upgrade my Note to the Note 2 as no doubt the spec leap will be much bigger than the Nexus 7.

Dude the price is low for that 7"
So it worth it x2 each dollar, if you r looking an upgrade just wait the note 2 or other device
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I'm with you in debating on it OP.
I've yet to put an order in as the Note 2 looks rather promising, however watching media on the 7" display would be lovely, and Tegra 3 aught to have enough power to handle S/W decoding of 10bit 720p, but I've also read that the S3 seems to handle it fine, and if the Note 2 will be a 'larger S3' then I might as well save the money and wait.
It's a tough decision, since it's realistically the best 7" tablet to come out yet.

LxMxFxD said:
I ordered it mostly just because jellybean looks so awesome i had to have it. But now that the benchmarks have been released along with the full specs, im actually now somewhat convinced it is inferior to my ics running n7000, or at the least equal. I ran the gl 2.1 benchmark that anandtech ran and my stock (not overclocked ) note actually scored higher in all 4 benchmarks than the "12 core" tegra 3. So besides battery life and jellybean, im pretty meh at this point. Anyone else have similar feelings? Or am i really missing something?
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Haha benchmarks, it'll handle whatever you throw at it and with custom roms on it will be even better...stop worrying about benchmarks they really don't mean **** on phones and tablets.
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Nexus banned in USA ,i wont buy it.
S3 better still.
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nexus 7 = cheap!
haha, for $209, I can use it as my cutting board while I look at videos on how to cook.
or even use it for the bathroom!
or have the kids use it as a frisbee.
it's not banned here. and to get vanilla jelly bean without buying a nexus phone, that's cheap. can't wait!

ttkyy said:
Nexus banned in USA ,i wont buy it.
S3 better still.
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Apparently you can't read, he's talking about the nexus 7 TABLET, keep thinking you know what your talking about.
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Can't wait for my nexus 7 tablet

What is the point of buying it if you are basing that decision on purely benchmarks and OS version?
Are you actually going to make use of the extra screen space compared to the note?
If yes buy it, if not dont, simple

The Nexus 7" looks amazing for the price. The only downside is the lack of SD card slot.
I'm not sure if they left it out for cost reasons or to avoid annoying the other manufacturers.
I won't personally be getting one as I'm holding off buying a tablet until Win 8. You just know someone will bring out a device that dual boots in to win8 and android.

About a month ago I bought a Galaxy Tab 2 (7") for my Fiance as she wanted something like a kindle but that did a bit more. 16 Gb was £200 if the Nexus Tab has been out for £150 with better spec and newer OS I would have thought that was a great buy if you want a 7" tab.
I dont get this comparing tabs and phones. Its like comparing apples and oranges. Both fruits but not the same thing.
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The Lum said:
About a month ago I bought a Galaxy Tab 2 (7") for my Fiance as she wanted something like a kindle but that did a bit more. 16 Gb was £200 if the Nexus Tab has been out for £150 with better spec and newer OS I would have thought that was a great buy if you want a 7" tab.
I dont get this comparing tabs and phones. Its like comparing apples and oranges. Both fruits but not the same thing.
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Except that the galaxy note is a phablet, a hybrid device. Thus the issue here.
To the person who said I only used benchmarks, not exactly. I was just saying that the 1.4ghz dualcore exynos with mali400 seems to still be a top dog and even beats/equals the "12core" tegra 3. Pretty impressive.
I do know the nexus 7 is a great device for $200. It doesn't have everything a galaxy note has like mhl, 5ghz wifi or sdslot but in terms of raw performance, screen resolution the $249 version is equal to my 16gb GT-N7000. No doubt it is an impressive device for the price. I found a deal on mine at Jr.com for $222 shipped 16GB version but that pre-order quickly sold out.
Even still I hesitate. It will probably only be a couple of months before the devs make a good port of jellybean for our note. Having a pure google device however does appeal to me. I'm still torn. Luckily it wont ship for another 10 days so I have all that time to decide.

ttkyy said:
Nexus banned in USA ,i wont buy it.
S3 better still.
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That is the Galaxy Nexus phone, not the Nexus 7 tablet. Personally, the Galaxy Note eliminates the need of a tablet for me.

It's 7 inches. Not even 2 full inches of difference between the Note and Nexus. And you can put the Note in your pocket and take it everywhere with you. And since Nexus 7 does not use full tablet UI - it's basically "a bigger note" ( exaggeration for purpose of the thread ).
It all depends on your needs though. I really prefer to have just 1 device that i can carry everywhere, always. Tablets, even 7" are not that mobile despite all the marketing.

If its any help i currently take my note with me everywherr daily. I use my Galaxy Tab 10.1 for browsing, gaming and watching movies (in bed). I use the Galaxy Tab 2 for reading and general messing about.
I admit 1 person doesnt need all 3 in their life but I do prefer web browsing at home on either of the tabs as I find it better with the bigger screens and the same for reading and movie watching whilst at home.
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Akiainavas said:
It's 7 inches. Not even 2 full inches of difference between the Note and Nexus. And you can put the Note in your pocket and take it everywhere with you. And since Nexus 7 does not use full tablet UI - it's basically "a bigger note" ( exaggeration for purpose of the thread ).
It all depends on your needs though. I really prefer to have just 1 device that i can carry everywhere, always. Tablets, even 7" are not that mobile despite all the marketing.
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There won't be any tablet ui in jellybean, it's gonna be universal like the galaxy nexus looks. Jellybean fully merges the tablet and phone ui together 100%. Any tablet that will support jellybean will look like the nexus 7 ui, no more tablet look.
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There won't be any tablet ui in jellybean, it's gonna be universal like the galaxy nexus looks. Jellybean fully merges the tablet and phone ui together 100%. Any tablet that will support jellybean will look like the nexus 7 ui, no more tablet look.
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Good thing Chameleon is coming out soon then ;-)
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sway40 said:
There won't be any tablet ui in jellybean, it's gonna be universal like the galaxy nexus looks. Jellybean fully merges the tablet and phone ui together 100%. Any tablet that will support jellybean will look like the nexus 7 ui, no more tablet look.
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That's not true. In another thread I read someone has already hacked the Nexus 7 to give it a tablet ui.

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It's 7 inches. Not even 2 full inches of difference between the Note and Nexus. And you can put the Note in your pocket and take it everywhere with you. And since Nexus 7 does not use full tablet UI - it's basically "a bigger note" ( exaggeration for purpose of the thread ).
It all depends on your needs though. I really prefer to have just 1 device that i can carry everywhere, always. Tablets, even 7" are not that mobile despite all the marketing.
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The Note is also a phone and has 3G... and 2 good cameras.
The Nexus 7 is a nice tablet (low end price with good specs) but it cant be the only device to take, a good companion to a phone maybe.

I need your help deciding if I should get the note 10.1

so I'm torn between this and the Nexus 7. Please tell me what you like about the note and why I should get it over the Nexus 7. Or if you don't like it and you think I should get the Nexus 7.
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RussellEstridge25 said:
so I'm torn between this and the Nexus 7. Please tell me what you like about the note and why I should get it over the Nexus 7. Or if you don't like it and you think I should get the Nexus 7.
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There are a ton of posts already with comparisons. If u search for them u can get more information.
Note is the best 10 inch tablet, while n7 is the best 7 inch tablet.
Figure out if u like 10ijch or 7 inch better.
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I have both and use them for different reasons. I like to game and read books on the Nexus 7 due to the size.
With the Note 10.1 I like to surf the web, watch movies and listen to music.
If I had to pick one it would be the Note 10.1 due to the quality, the specs and the overall function.

I came from xoom to here n i nvr regret at all

Note, note, note, note, note, note, note, note, note, note, note!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why get the Nexus 7 when you can just look at your phone? Also, the Note has the pen.
I bought the Note and gave my 7 inch tablet to my GF. Haven't regretted that choice for a second.
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So do games work well on the note ?? And is jellybean available?

RussellEstridge25 said:
So do games work well on the note ?? And is jellybean available?
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Are you serious? How can you ask people which tablet is "better" for you when you don't even know the basic specs of either tablet? Sounds like you need to do some research before asking your questions -- otherwise, we won't be able to really help you.
Nexus 7:
7 inch
vanilla android 4.1 (JB)
Tegra 3
$199-$250
Note 10.1:
10 inch
Currently android 4.0, soon to be updated to 4.1 w/Touchwiz
Exynos 4412 + Mali 400MP
s-pen
$499-$550
What you're asking is comparing apples vs oranges. Which of these tablets is right for you is for YOU to decide. What you want to do with your tablet has everything to do with which one you should choose. Do you value the S-pen? If so, buy the note. Do you want an inexpensive device running plain jellybean with updates straight from Google? Get the Nexus 7.
Whatever you do, do your homework first & familiarize yourself with the devices. The specs and info on both are everywhere on the web. If you want to hear about people's experiences with the Note 10.1, there are TONS of posts here detailing just that. Head over to the Nexus forums to find similar posts on that device, too. Go to the store and play with both in hand. Read about which one is good for the tasks you want it to do. Make yourself a list of pros and cons for each. Given that the two devices you've listed are so vastly different in spec and usage, I should think your choice will end up being an easy one.
That said, I love my Note 10.1, but I bought it specifically for the s-pen feature. It just happens to outperform all of my other devices at just about everything else, too, so I've no regrets with my purchase. Sound quality is amazing (both speakers and with my headphones). I love S-Note & Photoshop Touch. Video playback is great. Games run beautifully & I do not believe I've had a single FC yet. It does everything I want & it does it with ease.

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So do games work well on the note ?? And is jellybean available?
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Yes. As others have posted in XDA, not yet.
To expand on my answers, you should know that not all games will work on the Nexus 7 stock due to its size. Same as some games may not work on the 10" platform either (although more seem to run on 10" than 7").
Honestly you should go and figure out why you want a tablet in the first place THEN ask questions. Sounds to me like you are partially obsessed with having the newest Android OS and gaming, which as of this moment leaves you with the Nexus 7 since it is the only one with Jelly Bean stock.

I appreciate all your feedback. I know I'm coming off like I didn't do any research but I did do some... I have never owned a tablet so I wanted some feedback on which one is best. There is no one thing I want to do with it, I want the best tablet to do everything. I want to basically replace my laptop and then some. I want a big screen so this one appealed to me, I want to be able to play games with no lag, software isn't a deal breaker for me but I'm sure JB will get to this device soon enough. I love Sammy, I currently have the epic 4g touch and love it. I've heard excellent thing about the nexus 7 and nothing about the note 10.1 from friends. So I came here...

RussellEstridge25 said:
I want to basically replace my laptop and then some.
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Whether an Android tablet can do this or not depends on what you do with your laptop. If it's consumption, e-mail, and the occasional document you'll be fine. If you connect to physical networks, use a lot of MS products, and have to format and print stuff you'll be better off looking at a W8 tablet when they come out. One of the biggest differences between a 7" and 10" tablet is portability. With the smaller tablet it's easier to hold with one hand and you can stuff it in smaller places when you're carrying it around. The obvious downside is you give up a lot of display real estate in the process. Go in to a B&M store and spend some time with each trying out the things you'll do most often. My phone has a 4.7" display so to me a 7" tablet isn't a big enough leap to make me want to consider it.

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Whether an Android tablet can do this or not depends on what you do with your laptop. If it's consumption, e-mail, and the occasional document you'll be fine. If you connect to physical networks, use a lot of MS products, and have to format and print stuff you'll be better off looking at a W8 tablet when they come out. One of the biggest differences between a 7" and 10" tablet is portability. With the smaller tablet it's easier to hold with one hand and you can stuff it in smaller places when you're carrying it around. The obvious downside is you give up a lot of display real estate in the process. Go in to a B&M store and spend some time with each trying out the things you'll do most often. My phone has a 4.7" display so to me a 7" tablet isn't a big enough leap to make me want to consider it.
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Mainly just browsing, downloading files such as roms, and the occasional torrent file, I have a separate work laptop for all that other stuff. What do you all use yours for?

If you're even considering the Nexus 7, then you're not focused on power. So I'd say that it comes down to 2 things: Are you A)Buying it for any productivity related reasons that would benefit from having a stylus, or B) Going to be playing lots of graphic intensive games? If you answered "yes" to either if these questions, then pick up the Note (Although you could get by with the newest galaxy tab for gaming).If not, get the 7.

The Note does everything the Nexus 7 does minus Jellybean, which will change soon. Top features the Nexus doesn't have that I use and will use:
Stylus and Handwriting Recognition- Very useful for taking notes, writing poems, composition, doodling, funner than typing.
Bigger Screen- Videos, Reading, Visibility
Micro SD slot- expandable storage
2GB RAM
I would say the Note is just like the Nexus just with more productivity capabilities and more powerful.

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The Note does everything the Nexus 7 does minus Jellybean, which will change soon. Top features the Nexus doesn't have that I use and will use:
Stylus and Handwriting Recognition- Very useful for taking notes, writing poems, composition, doodling, funner than typing.
Bigger Screen- Videos, Reading, Visibility
Micro SD slot- expandable storage
2GB RAM
I would say the Note is just like the Nexus just with more productivity capabilities and more powerful.
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Actually for gaming I would go with the Nexus 7 because of Tegra specific games and apps...
Also the Nexus 7 will have a much more active dev scene, if that is what you are into.
That said I went with the Note 10.1. It's actually Samsung's TouchWiz interface and apps that won me over

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Actually for gaming I would go with the Nexus 7 because of Tegra specific games and apps...
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I own both devices and the Note 10.1 is clearly better for gaming due to faster and smoother performance and much better speakers.

Would pick the note....I came from the transformer prime....No tegra graphics but everything else is a plus....hands down winner for me is the note

I also have both and have hardly touched the Nexus 7 since I got the Note.
If I had to choose only one, it would be the Note without even stopping to blink.
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I just got a Note
I was in your shoes a few weeks ago. I really wanted to upgrade my Acer A500 with an iPad 3. But then I decided to really question what I wanted. I weighed 10" tablets against the 7" tablets. The Nexus 7 I really liked at first. What turned my off was the lack of a microSD slot. That's one of the things that turned me off to the iPad. I saw the Note from a distance but as soon as I got some time to play with it in the store I was hooked. Writing with the pen is amazing! Plus the difference between a 7" and 10" screen is pretty big. You can watch a video and surf the internet at the same time. I haven't been even a little disappointed since I got my Note!

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I was in your shoes a few weeks ago. I really wanted to upgrade my Acer A500 with an iPad 3. But then I decided to really question what I wanted. I weighed 10" tablets against the 7" tablets. The Nexus 7 I really liked at first. What turned my off was the lack of a microSD slot. That's one of the things that turned me off to the iPad. I saw the Note from a distance but as soon as I got some time to play with it in the store I was hooked. Writing with the pen is amazing! Plus the difference between a 7" and 10" screen is pretty big. You can watch a video and surf the internet at the same time. I haven't been even a little disappointed since I got my Note!
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I heard the note is more pixelated, and wouldn't the nexus 7 be more ideal for games since you can hold it easier? Not that gaming is the deal breaker for me by any means....

Returning to best buy.. want to restore stock.

Got my note and rooted it in less than 30 min and now I think I'm exchanging it for an Asus that is giving me a good deal. I noticed my firmware is li3.. I have n8013.. where can I find the Odin firmware.. I've only found the lh2.. or does it not matter? Has anyone been successful returning it back to stock with untripped counter? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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just do factory reset. they won't check it, don't worry. If you want, you can always download them at sammobile.com

Just return it. They aren't going to check anything

Even with a modded recovery? Lol seems risky to just return it all modded out aha
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So I can get a tf300 for 300 dollars right now.. do u think its a bad decision over this note.. I love everything about the note but the screen kills it.. and for 150 dollars less the Asus seems to be the better deal. Anybody want to give me some opinions on this. Still trying to make up my mind. Its really tough.
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pezlomd said:
So I can get a tf300 for 300 dollars right now.. do u think its a bad decision over this note.. I love everything about the note but the screen kills it.. and for 150 dollars less the Asus seems to be the better deal. Anybody want to give me some opinions on this. Still trying to make up my mind. Its really tough.
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Wait, the tf300 has about the same size screen as the 10.1 (1280x800). If you want the 1920x1200 screen you need to get the tf700 infinity.

LurkerLito said:
Wait, the tf300 has about the same size screen as the 10.1 (1280x800). If you want the 1920x1200 screen you need to get the tf700 infinity.
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Yes it has the same but its 150 dollars back in my pocket..I'm a lil bummed that there are others tablets for the same price with much better resolution. I have a note 2.. and things look better on it than the 10.1... basically I just want some Input on whether its better to save 150 and go with Asus or stick with the 10.1..
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pezlomd said:
So I can get a tf300 for 300 dollars right now.. do u think its a bad decision over this note.. I love everything about the note but the screen kills it.. and for 150 dollars less the Asus seems to be the better deal. Anybody want to give me some opinions on this. Still trying to make up my mind. Its really tough.
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I have the tf300 and when I got the note 10.1 it was not a contest. The note is obviously more responsive. The tf300 has a couple of good roms available and Asus is the best with updates. But I keep the note with me and the wife has the tf300. It might not be that big of an issue to you since you have note II.
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The processor and ram alone makes it better then that Asus....

The note is way better than the ASUS tf300. The software and interface is better. The Note is faster and more responsive. I chose the Note over the tf700 for the same reason. I owned a Transformer tf101 for the last year and have played with the 300 and 700 extensively. Once I started playing with the Note it was over. I think the screen is quite nice, definitely better than tf101. II've only owned the Note for 2 days but I've been very impressed so far.

The note is by far the best. I had tf201 and tf700. Played with the 300 and it felt like a prime with better Wi-Fi. The note however beats them all hands down all around the block. Sure Asus updates quicker but they feel slower and stutter more. Not to mention you can kiss your warranty goodbye for Asus for custom roms.
Bottom line stick with the note.
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The note is way better than the ASUS tf300. The software and interface is better. The Note is faster and more responsive. I chose the Note over the tf700 for the same reason. I owned a Transformer tf101 for the last year and have played with the 300 and 700 extensively. Once I started playing with the Note it was over. I think the screen is quite nice, definitely better than tf101. II've only owned the Note for 2 days but I've been very impressed so far.
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Man my note 2 is just such a beast. You think they will give the same note 2 abilities to this bad guy note 10.
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I don't know why people are impressed with lots of updates....
Seems to me that someone who updates continuously is doing so because there are major problems with their OS... Look at windows, updates for vista were made everyday but with windows seven there are a lot less.
Just because updates are pushed by Asus doesn't mean its a better tablet, just that it is probably buggier and they're trying to play catchup...
The Note 10.1, though not perfect, was a very stable tablet from the day I powered it up for the first time. JB may be a long time coming but at least it should be a good, stable rom that is pushed out.

Is the note really worth the $450 even if you have no plans on using the s pen.
I played with one for a couple of minutes in bestbuy on Wednesday but couldn't get over the price point especially since i don't see myself using the s pen, worse now that the tf300 is $300 for the 32gb model.
My biggest need is a really good, quick, responsive web browsing experience. It seems like the tegra 3 is not equipped to offer me what I need but im not sure if the exynos can handle it either.

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I don't know why people are impressed with lots of updates....
Seems to me that someone who updates continuously is doing so because there are major problems with their OS... Look at windows, updates for vista were made everyday but with windows seven there are a lot less.
Just because updates are pushed by Asus doesn't mean its a better tablet, just that it is probably buggier and they're trying to play catchup...
The Note 10.1, though not perfect, was a very stable tablet from the day I powered it up for the first time. JB may be a long time coming but at least it should be a good, stable rom that is pushed out.
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I agree. But this is not why I'm considering it. Apart from the pen and touchwiz I feel like its about the same. Sure less ram but for 300 dollars it seams like a no brainer value. The note is quick I'll give it that and I'm starting to like it more and more but at times I feel like my note 2 has so much more to offer with the s pen, multiwindow jelly bean out the box. I thought the note 10 would be just as good. I can't even hover scroll with the pen like I do with the pen on the note 2.. the screen does look good but I would expect more from the price. I'll prob end up keeping this thing anyways tho.. hearing a lot of negatives about the Asus line. Even tho it seems just as good.
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Yes it has the same but its 150 dollars back in my pocket..I'm a lil bummed that there are others tablets for the same price with much better resolution. I have a note 2.. and things look better on it than the 10.1... basically I just want some Input on whether its better to save 150 and go with Asus or stick with the 10.1..
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It really comes down to how you use your tablet IMHO. I want to use my tablet like a notebook with a pen and paper like interface, so for me the Note 10.1 was the best fit. The price difference was a factor at first when I was deciding between a tf300,tf700,nexus 10 and Note 10.1. But in the end, the most important thing for me was the user interface on how i used the device. The S-Pen and the applications like S-note, were exactly how I wanted to use a tablet device, so the price difference and even the screen resolution didn't matter nearly as much. I'd say look at how you are planning on using the device, and decide based on that first. Price is a factor but if you save 150 but don't use the device as much because you lost important features you didn't realize were important to you, then the savings weren't worth it IMHO.

I owned the tf300 for three weeks. It was purchased from BB for $269, 16G version. The tf300 was returned to BB and I pickup a note 10.1 for $459. Much more than I wanted to pay but this tablet is great.
Tf300
okay tablet but the bootloader was locked - my device would not unlock with Asus tool.
lagged
Qual score about 3400
Galaxy note 10.1
rooted with custom Rom - took me about one hour
Run really fast qual score about 5700
Screen looks good
I will keep this tablet for three weeks than make a decision.

I didn't have any problems with the bootloader unlock tool by Asus but many others did. If price is an issue then consider the nexus 10 over the tf300. Some of the issues with the tf300 have been fixed because simple tasks like downloading apps would cripple the tablet and cause the play store to force close. A few updates and a move to "Clean Rom" had everything running smooth. You wont be blown away with the note 10.1 because you have the note 2.
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I have both the note 2 and the 3g note 10.1 with the jelly bean update. I love the 10.1 because it has not given me any major issues with regards to crashing etc it is super smooth with the quad core and 2gigs of Ram. Yes the display may not be as good as the newer transformers but everything else is much better in my opinion.
With the jelly bean update, it is as good as the note 2 because it contains all of its features but on a larger screen which is far more practical for professional use such as taking notes at meetings etc. The multitasking is also more meaningful on a 10.1 unless you are using the smart dock for the note 2 or connecting via an mhl cable to a larger display.
I have no regrets having both devices. If price is one of the biggest factors for you then go for the Asus otherwise stick to the note and you will not regret this decision. A number of people think initially that the pen is not going to be used that often but after putting it to practical use, they soon change their opinion about it.
I have come from the original transformer so do not notice or mind a reduction in display quality as the notes one is more than adequate and if I want true hd quality, I just connect it to a TV or projector with hd via an mhl lead or the all share cast dongle.

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Is the note really worth the $450 even if you have no plans on using the s pen.
I played with one for a couple of minutes in bestbuy on Wednesday but couldn't get over the price point especially since i don't see myself using the s pen, worse now that the tf300 is $300 for the 32gb model.
My biggest need is a really good, quick, responsive web browsing experience. It seems like the tegra 3 is not equipped to offer me what I need but im not sure if the exynos can handle it either.
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You get what you pay for. As someone said above, the TF300 is a de-contented Prime with better wireless which makes it over a year old both in design and components. The Note supports 5GHz dual-channel Wi-Fi with channel bonding (like the newest iPad), has BT 4.0 (the TF300 is 2.0 and the TF700 3.0), dual-channel RAM, 2GB of RAM (vs. 1GB), Glonass support for location services, two forward facing speakers, a flash for the rear camera, and a larger battery.
You specifically mentioned web browsing. All Asus tablets suffer from IO issues caused by their choice of storage solution. When there are background processes running the browser and UI can become almost unusable. There are hacks available to make things better but the device needs to be unlocked and that voids your warranty. Adding $100 for SquareTrade (unless you don't care about a warranty) puts the two devices closer in price. And multiview, even without S Pen, is a really cool feature in a 10” device.
Here's a component comparison between the TF700 (a "better" device than the TF300) and the Note. If there's a corner that can be cut, Asus will cut it. You'd be better off picking up a used Note or N10 off of eBay or CL to stay in your price range than buying a year-old new TF300.

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So I recently had and Acer Iconia A100 die and need to replace it. Due to budget constraints I'm choosing between the Galaxy Tab 2 and the Nexus 7.
I'm familiar with the spec differences but I can't pull the trigger on one or the other. Any N7 users want to convince me? Let me know your thoughts... positive and negative...

oh god please dont buy the Galaxy tab 2 the nexus 7 is so much better i know this because i have used the both over lenghtly periods and the tab 2 is just annoying with how glitchy and slow it is

Honestly, get the Galaxy Tab 2, because if one more person asks this question I'm going to flip.
You obviously already made up your mind to get the Nexus 7.

Whatever you do DON'T buy Galaxy Tab 2 they lag as hell, rather buy Galaxy Note 10 inch or 8 inch.
But if you're still unsure then flip a coin, you will know which choice to make when you realize which side you hope it lands on.

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Hes is right. Get the galaxy tab.
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Yet you sold yours, and now have an N7?
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Whatever you do DON'T buy Galaxy Tab 2 they lag as hell, rather buy Galaxy Note 10 inch or 8 inch.
But if you're still unsure then flip a coin, you will know which choice to make when you realize which side you hope it lands on.
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2 votes for lag on the GT2... thank you
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Honestly, get the Galaxy Tab 2, because if one more person asks this question I'm going to flip.
You obviously already made up your mind to get the Nexus 7.
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Why do you say that? I've posted in both forums to try to get input from users of both. Is there anything you don't like about the N7?
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oh god please dont buy the Galaxy tab 2 the nexus 7 is so much better i know this because i have used the both over lenghtly periods and the tab 2 is just annoying with how glitchy and slow it is
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very helpful. Thank you

I only have some experience with playing with the Tab 2 WiFi version at WorseBuy. If you buy the Galaxy Tab 2 7", you will retain two things from your A100: the non-HD screen and the proprietary charging port. The 720p screen on the Nexus 7 makes a huge difference in usage, especially texts will be sharper and easier to read. Having a standard microUSB port is a huge plus because the cable is cheap so you can charge the device anywhere.
In term of performance, the Nexus 7 will be far faster with it's Tegra3. The Tab 2 7" have a TI OMAP dual core 1GHz, my Galaxy Nexus have the same CPU brand, but a faster model clocked at 1.2GHz and the same outdated PowerVR SGX540 GPU. I can tell you the Nexus 7 is a much smoother and lag free experience than the Galaxy Nexus and will handle 3D games much better. I know benchmark don't mean alot to some people, but this should give you an idea: Tab 2 7", Nexus 7. PS. I have heard people complaining about lags on the Nexus 7, well... I simply don't have it.
Where the Tab 2 win is the 3G version can make direct phone calls which the Nexus 7 3G can't, but it also cost more than the Nexus 7 3G. Of course, you already know it have microSD slot, back camera, and you can get an HDMI adapter, which is overpriced imo ($40) and will add to the cost of the tablet. The Nexus 7 doesn't have any form of HDMI out which sucks.
The most important factor for me is the software, and what follows might be a cliche thing you will hear in a Nexus forum. With a Nexus device you will get latest Android updates from Google and a larger developing community. As for the Tab 2, Samsung said 4.2.2 will be the last update and even with custom roms there aren't a lot of developers working on it. Despite what I said above, if the Nexus 7 only had the Tab 2 specs, and vice versa, I would still get the Nexus 7 because the benefits of AOSP, Google updates and many custom rom developers which makes a big difference in long term value.
You can also look at the Asus Memo Pad 10 if you don't mind going with a 10" tablet which is a good budget tablet. The text isn't sharp in 720p resolution on a 10" screen. However it has lots good benefits the Nexus 7 doesn't have, such as dedicated microHDMI out, USB OTG out of the box (no root needed), microSD slot, back camera, and Tegra3 chip as well. Also unlike the Transformer tablets, it have standard microUSB port. I had to return it because the digitizer on my unit went haywire and I didn't know how soon it will get CyanogenMod support.

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I only have some experience with playing with the WiFi version at WorseBuy. If you buy the Galaxy Tab 2 7", you will retain two things from your A100: the non-HD screen and the proprietary charging port. The 720p screen on the Nexus 7 makes a huge difference in usage, especially texts will be sharper and easier to read. Having a standard microUSB port is a huge plus because the cable is cheap so you can charge the device anywhere.
In term of performance, the Nexus 7 will be far faster with it's Tegra3. The Tab 2 7" have a TI OMAP dual core 1GHz, my Galaxy Nexus have the same CPU brand, but a faster model clocked at 1.2GHz and the same outdated PowerVR SGX540 GPU. I can tell you the Nexus 7 is a much smoother and lag free experience than the Galaxy Nexus and will handle 3D games much better. I know benchmark don't mean alot to some people, but this should give you an idea: Tab 2 7", Nexus 7. PS. I have heard people complaining about lags on the Nexus 7, well... I simply don't have it.
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Thanks very much for that, pretty much covers it all.
I'm really not worried about the lack of an SD card on the N7, I think I can live on 16GB. The lack of a rear camera worries me a little but I think the performance and Android support are winning me over.
Thanks again

N7 is still best value currently.
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The Galaxy Tab is pretty slow.
PS - Buy whatever you want. Not to sound rude, but no one here really cares what you spend your money on.

ynrozturk said:
The Galaxy Tab is pretty slow.
PS - Buy whatever you want. Not to sound rude, but no one here really cares what you spend your money on.
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Lol. He just needed our opinion on which device is better.
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Get the tab because I would never use a nexus 7 in a million years!!
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Which tablet?
I have an Nexus 7, and i shouldn't know why it is bad. It's a fast and easy to use tablet. Very smooth. It's cheaper than the galaxy tab. But galaxy tab is not bad.... It depends on what you are planning to do with it.

1eyedmonster said:
Get the tab because I would never use a nexus 7 in a million years!!
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Funny you should say that.
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Walmart no name brand tablet!
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Buy a gameboy.
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You get what you pay for ..
IF it where not from you saying you have a very limited budget i would say with no doubt. Get a Galaxy Note . I have the nexus 7 and Note 10.1 . when im home The Nexus sits on its charger. When im out it goes with me because it fits in my purse. But lately i have been keeping the note under my arm when i go out. I love the Multi window Cascade/ Dual screen mode. You can Run up to 20 apps at one time. Most do not suspend while having another app in action such as hand writing a note on the wacom digitize r . For school or real work productivity . Price verses performance . There is not a tablet on the planet better then the Note.
Now the nexus 7 is the fastest slim sleek device for on the go use. I could never mount my note to the dash to use as a gps. It will NOT fit in my purse It uses a propritary charging port
My Conclusion is a Note 8 might be the best of both worlds. I just cant see spending the 400.00 for one when i have a awesome 7 inch Nexus 7 and a mind blowing Productive Galaxy note 10.1 ..
Maybe think about how you will pack it around .. Portability goes a very long way ..

I just sold my 8gb GT2 7" and I have a 16gb and 32gb N7. I wanted to like the Samsung more, as I usually enjoy their products and don't find Touchwiz as horrible as everyone says... BUT, the GT2 7" had to be the worst tablet I've ever used from a lag perspective. I don't know if it effects all sizes or just the 8gb but you cannot escape it. The stock rom is horribly slow and the various popular roms only help a bit. It reminded me of my old Android phones from 3 or 4 years ago in that you had to reboot it daily as it would slow down over time. My OG Samsung GTP7510 10" i/o tab is faster and a year older.
The N7 was had zero of these issues. Now saying that, the N7 has some cosmetic and power on issues that continually plague many people including me. But, when it's working it's a better tablet.
If you have the money buy a Note 8.0
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I really wanna get the transformer pad infinity. But I still love my N7!
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