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[Q]Should i Buy a Glaxy Tab 2?

Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?

I have an gtab 2 10.1 and i have to say that its amazing. Its smooth, has a nice display, good music boxes for a tablet and the battery life is awesome. ( 28 h with intensive use of wifi games and some youtube vids.)
The only thing thats bad about this tablet is the camera, but i think... ITS A TABLET! NOT A CANON EOS!
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PantechBurstOwner said:
Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
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Be cautious when considering the Asus. I bought a new Transformer Prime 64GB, mainly because it seemed to be rated high and was cutting edge. It never worked right. Twice I had to send it to Texas for "repair", the first time when it was only a few days old. Asus has them locked and the unlocking app doesn't work for many, so there's no way to load CWM or a custom ROM. While just under the return window I sent mine back to Amazon for a refund and ordered the 10.1 Tab 2. It may not be cutting edge, but Samsung stuff is solid and there's a lot of support. You might also want to spend some time reading the threads here on XDA about the Asus before you decide. I wish I did. Just my two cents!

I had the 8gb nexus 7 and loved it but not enough storage for me. I have the Gtab 2 7.0 with a 32gb SD card and am very happy with my purchase. If storage isn't an issue for you I would go with the nexus 7.
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azturbomini said:
I had the 8gb nexus 7 and loved it but not enough storage for me. I have the Gtab 2 7.0 with a 32gb SD card and am very happy with my purchase. If storage isn't an issue for you I would go with the nexus 7.
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this.
as much as I like my tab 2, for most folk the 16gb nexus 7 is the better purchase.

azturbomini said:
I had the 8gb nexus 7 and loved it but not enough storage for me. I have the Gtab 2 7.0 with a 32gb SD card and am very happy with my purchase. If storage isn't an issue for you I would go with the nexus 7.
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Agreed. I've gone through a couple phases with my Tab 2 7" thus far. I was initially a bit disappointed in it as the screen and performance weren't quite as crisp as my Galaxy S2 phone. But after more day-to-day use and comparing it with the hacked Nook Color I'd been using previously it's really started to grow on me and I quite like it now, especially given the price. But if I had to buy new right now I'd probably opt for a 16GB Nexus 7. The extra space provided by an external storage card on my Tab is largely useless as far as most apps are concerned.

PantechBurstOwner said:
Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
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I got the Tab2 because it shipped with ICS, has a back camera and expandable storage. No regrets. I am not in the US so I wouldn't have been able to access all the Google services. Tab2 was a bit less ($10) than the Nexus for me.

You should search. You would see the other five threads asking the same question.
No, don't buy one. Get an ipad.

scottx . said:
You should search. You would see the other five threads asking the same question.
No, don't buy one. Get an ipad.
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Ha good one. Like I would spend my money on an apple product. Also the nexus tablet is like Two weeks? Two days old. I doubt someone compared it to this but thanks for the negativity downer Dan!

I am very happy with my Tab 2, but in the end I think the i-pad is the better choice: many more tablet apps available.
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Like scottx said buy an IPad so you can support sue happy Apple. They need more money so they can block or delay us in getting new non-apple products.
Seriously, I would do a lot of research and find local stores that have various ones on display and take some time to play with them. This is a big purchase for some of us. I kind of rushed into it and am not sure I made the best decision even though I am happy with my Tab 2. I had a Toshiba Excite 10 and it was great also with the exception that there is still not a lot of developers making apps that are compatible or support the Tegra 3 processor. And the fact that there was a glitch in the camera (which is better than the Tab 2) that caused some issues.
Good luck in you search and decision.

Whatever you do.. get something over 8GB ,,,,,,
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Sure
I'd owned iPad 2 about a year but traded it for Galaxy Tab 2 (5100) so I have experience for both devices.
iPad is absolutely unusable without JailBreak. And you can not guarantee some smart guy will make a jailbreak for new iOs version.
But it is smooth and handy and sweet and yummy. And all girls are yours (if you own Ferrari as well).
SGT2 is scarcely usable with stock Samsung rom. It's sluggish and it lives its own life and doesn't care what exactly you want to get by poking your finger into the screen. Sometimes it may make an exception and mercifully respond to your wishes. May be such an impression comes after iPad since raw android users don't experience anything like that.
Yesterday with help of comrade Endoroid I managed to flash CyanogenMod 9 to my SGT2. And you know what - it is smooth almost like iPad now but you haven't to perform all those Voodoo dance to just put a file on it. So now I have all the mighty might of android swiss knife and smoothness of near of such of Ipad.
As a summary - I would recommend you this device if you can handle flashing a custom rom and don't bother about warranty.
Make your choice (c) John Kramer.

Got my GTab 2 since yesterday. It ran only 1 minute stock (to copy CM9 and gapps on flash) . Now I'm running CM 9 RC2 - CM10 4.1 is in progress by codeworkx. It's so smooth :fingers-crossed: ! Love it! Only thing is, that dock features like audio/hdmi over dock connector aren't supported yet.

I've read in many threads that the build quality of the Nexus 7 is not very good. Asus tried to build it so that it would be easy to tear down and replace parts, and in order to do that, they did not use any glue to hold in the screen. This may been nice for the repair department, but it sucks for the average user constantly getting a loose screen (eventually causing damage to the screen).

Thanks guys, im pretty sure im going to get the tab, and whats this about the nexus 7's screen coming loose. Any links to that??

PantechBurstOwner said:
Thanks guys, im pretty sure im going to get the tab, and whats this about the nexus 7's screen coming loose. Any links to that??
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781237
The problem is that there is no glue.
Check out this video on the teardown.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-7-Teardown/9623/1
Hmm.. and one more thing. It looks like the screen has yet another problem with "ghosting" images.
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-7-ghosting-issues-affect-some-displays-99349/
Oh and also it seems that Tegra 3 chips have a severe "flickering" problem with the display.
Gee.. that is like 3 separate problems directly related to the screen
There is a hardware problem that affects the flickering in the display. When the brightness level is turned down, the IPS panel is affected when the broadcom WiFi chip receives data. So, if you want to use the internet and turn down the brightness, you will get (from what other people say) severe flickering on the screen. Sounds annoying.

I got myself the galaxy tab 2 and overall well i will say for stock rom it does ok if you are doing light work (surfing,and music) although you do see the screen or tapping of screen lag when you are running more things. However overall rather stable for android os 4.0.3. i think there is an update to 4.0.4 but i guess i will stick with 4.0.3 a while longer before moving on to custom roms.

PantechBurstOwner said:
Well I recently got a Pantech burst, hence my name. But now im looking for a tablet for personal use and school. Im also interested in the ASUS Eee pad and the nexus 7. Any tips on what to get/reasons to get the tab 2?
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NO! Don't buy Galaxy Tab 2, I suggest you to buy an Asus Transformer Pad than Gtab 2 because some reasons:
1. It's cheaper
2. It's using NVIDIA Tegra 2 GPU (Transformer) which run graphics very smoothly than Gtab 2 which only powered by PowerVR
3. Asus Transformer's dock is very usable, your tab can transformed into a netbook
4. The dock could extend the battery of the tab up to 6-10 hours as I know
5. The widget and live wallpaper is pretty cool and awesome B)
6. Asus built in apps is very usable too
And the last...
7. It's have good specs for gaming
But I just suggest you and you've still consider which is the best for you
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You should install this rom,if you like stock roms. Very nice indeed. Remove the bloatware,install some sort of app that stop apps from starting on their own, and you will see a nice improvement.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765313

Exchange My Nexus 7 for EEE Pad Transformer TF101- Is it worth?

Hey Guys,
I need some help here. So basically i have the all new Google Nexus 7 tablet which has just launched. So I am getting an offer to exchange my Nexus 7 for an ASUS EEE Pad Transformer TF101. I was considering switching but was not able to make the descsion, so i need help from you guys on whether switching/exchanging a Nexus 7 for a TF101 Transformer Is worth it? The Transformer has a Dual Core Tegra 2 while as the Nexus 7 has a Quad core Tegra 3. Other than that the Transformer seems better. It has a larger screen with slightly lower PPI, it has a 5 MP camer + front facing one too. It has 16GB internal + expandable storage(not sure if expandable). Build quality and battery life seems equal on both. So i want to know if the Tegra 2 is well performing on the TF101 and whether it can handle the latest games/apps and whether the TF101 lags?
Thanks all!

Do you get the keyboard or just the tablet?

The Asus Transformer is also worth taking a look coz its is bundled with features....
But finally it depends upon you that what are your needs as If you want to use it for hardcore gaming then obv. Transformer is the one to go with but if you want a pure Google experience and are GOOGLE FAN then you should stay with the Nexus 7 as it has the latest and coolest features....but in the end u r the 1 who has to make the decission as per ur needs... Happy googling
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Drakenhielm said:
Do you get the keyboard or just the tablet?
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just the tablet!!!
does the Tegra 2 lag and stutter with latest apps/games...thts what i actually need to know?

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just the tablet!!!
does the Tegra 2 lag and stutter with latest apps/games...thts what i actually need to know?
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Even running at stock speed, my TF runs all the games I've played smoothly. ....But there are some newer games optimized for Tegra 3. BTW, I have both the TF and Nexus 7, and they're both awesome in their own way.
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If it is new or a refurb and not coming from a private/owner seller, I say go for it. You can always buy another Nexus 7 when the price drops. If it is the owner, then maybe you could work out a temporary/trade/try it. If pre-owned does it have any problems. Maybe nothing is wrong and they are just feeling the urge ( you know, that desire for the latest toy). I have noticed that the price for the TF101 has gone up since I bought mine 7 months ago. I will probably buy the N7, due to the urge. But I had better wait for cooler weather. Just paid an electric bill that was over $300
after using a 7', the 10.01" will seem huge in comparison. I have the keyboard dock, it's cool, with the extra battery, USB & SD slot. But I rarely use it, the soft key pad is great.

Actually you should keep the Nexus coz it is new and latest tech by the Android Owner/Developer, so it is a must have tab fr Android geeks as Google has worked hard for putting all those features in such a low rate....and the second reason is that Transformer has become a bit old and isnt the latest technology although it is a good competetor but it is like an old Grand Father with less usability.
....also you will in Starting love the keyboard along but after some time you will see no use of the keyboard....also the keyboard dock after some time becom lose and while carrying both connected it slips(nt personal experience of dock)....well indeed make a good choice which suits you the best....
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Even though the n7 is a Google device I will probably never buy any tablet smaller than the 10 inch. Same reason I will never buy a phone bigger than 5 inch. Just my two cents.
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It depends on your usage model. I have both the TF and N7, and ever since I got the N7 my TF has mostly stayed turned off. However, I don't plan to get rid of the TF either. I mainly use my tablets for browsing and watching downloaded videos. Browsing on the N7 is smooth and buttery, while on the TF it is reasonably quick but the occasional stutter happens more often and is therefore more irritating. The UI on the TF isn't as smooth, but in my experience apps work flawlessly. Videos, on the other hand, look better on the TF. It's not just the screen size, but the contrast seems better as well. The N7 is also easier to hold/handle due to it's small size.
Let me put it this way, if you primarily browse the web or stream most of your content (or love having the latest and greatest OS), stick with the N7. If you need lots of local storage (or are stuck with slow DSL), want to output content to a TV (I use mine to play emulator games with my PS3 controller), or want the optional convenience of the keyboard and the epic battery life that gives you, trade for the TF.

I would go ahead and probably swap a nexus 7 for an OG transformer.
Simple reason being...SD card support. They both got great screens but transformer is bigger at 10.1 inch. The difference between quad and dual core doesn't really bother me at this point in time. Both got 1 gig of ram also.
You can't really go wrong. I love my transformer still after almost a year. I've no intention of replacing it anytime soon.
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I would go ahead and probably swap a nexus 7 for an OG transformer.
Simple reason being...SD card support. They both got great screens but transformer is bigger at 10.1 inch. The difference between quad and dual core doesn't really bother me at this point in time. Both got 1 gig of ram also.
You can't really go wrong. I love my transformer still after almost a year. I've no intention of replacing it anytime soon.
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I wouldn't. Unless it comes with the dock.
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I've got both and personally i would stick with the nexus. i really want to love the TF101, the keyboard hybrid is such a great idea but it's been a really frustrating experience - very often laggy as hell (press the recent apps key and wait 5 secs for it to respond!), too many bugs for a device that is now over a year old (crashed launcher, screen locking up, i still occasionally have the device randomly rebooting). the speakers and microphone are also awful, really poor quality.
The nexus really is the best android tablet on the market at the moment in terms of performance. but if screen size/storage space is important then maybe it's worth swapping - but i would consider another android tablet.

well the OG transformer has HDMi out while the nexus 7 doesnt

I'm willing to transfer my tf101 with dock!
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I'm willing to transfer my tf101 with dock!
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I can take that for sealed N7. PM me.

man, i'll gladly go with a Nexus 7 over my Transformer+dock.
i would rather want the smaller form factor. taking around the Transformer+dock just seems too much like a laptop to me, and without the laptop power.

[Q] Is the Nexus 7 the best tablet out right now?

Cnet.com voted the Nexus 7 as their best holiday gift idea. It beat out the iPad Mini, which came in at number two:
http://cnettv.cnet.com/ultimate-gift-list-cnet-top-10-tech-ideas/9742-1_53-50135472.html
This guy over at forbes also thinks its the best gift to give (he actually cites the Cnet special as well):
http://www.forbes.com/sites/taesiky...y-season-and-why-its-not-good-news-for-apple/
I've only had mine for a week. So far I love it. Can't say its the best since I haven't played around with many others. I'd like to take the Nexus 10 for a test drive. Still, for the money, I can't think of anything better. What do you guys think?

I've had mine since August. It's my fifth tablet and by far my favorite.
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I've had mine since August. It's my fifth tablet and by far my favorite.
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Five!? Wow. What were the others and what makes this one so much better if I may ask?

I have a viewsonic g-tablet, and a transformer prime. They collect dust since I got the nexus7.
It's mainly size that makes it much more useable then those 10" tablets. Take it with me everywhere, its better for gaming also due to the size.
For the hardware and price, it really can't be beat.
I started with a 16gb on pre-order. Then they announced the 32gb. So I bought myself one of those. The girlfriend is getting my old 16gb, and I picked up another 32gb for my mom for the holidays for 229.
Really can't go wrong.

May I ask where you got the 32 for 229$
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I had a Acer a500 10" tablet before my nexus 7. I'd have to charge it about once a week, maybe not even that. My nexus 7, I have to charge about every 2 days. Noo, this isn't about battery life. Its that I can't put my nexus 7 down! I can't believe how enjoyable this device is to use. I thought I was taking a step backwards with going to a smaller screen. I was wrong. I love my nexus 7 and I use this thing everyday. Its amazing and for $200, you can't beat it. My gf loves my nexus 7 and always wants to use it. In fact she wanted jewelry for Christmas but now she wants a nexus 7 lol
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candyeve said:
May I ask where you got the 32 for 229$
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I actually got it from Adorama but it was a cyber monday thing on ebay.. But I've seen a few people in the whos is shipping thread stickied at the top getting similar prices since.
At that price, it was a great deal. I totalled up the 16gb from the play store, with tax and shipping it would have come to 230 something. And I got the 32gb for 229 with no tax and free shipping.

Had an I pad 1 and a Kindle Fire and by far this thing is my favorite tablet to date. Just works!
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By far and away the best tablet on the market right now
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Best tablet for 200 dollars Imo
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Best 7" Tablet and probably best tablet for the price.
If you want a larger tablet, then obviously there are probably better choices out there, but they cost more $$.

After watching Cnet top 10 gifts this year. I can see why the Nexus 7 made it to the #1 spot this year.
In the area where I'm living you won't find the Nexus 7 16GB model anywhere within a 50 mile range in any stores. Cause they are flying out of the door faster then they can get them. The stores in my area still had like four 32GB model of the Nexus 7 still. Least that what they had when I called them asking how many they had. That was three days ago when I bought my Nexus 7.

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Five!? Wow. What were the others and what makes this one so much better if I may ask?
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Nook Color, Nook Tablet, Samsung Galaxy Tab, Asus TF300 and Nexus 7.
The Nooks were crippled with old versions of Android and had to be hacked to be made useful. The Galaxy Tab had Touchwiz over Android and Samsung was slow with updates. The Asus has terrible I/O issues that cause the tablet to be very slow when any I/O is being done. After having both 7 and 10 inch tablets I find for me 7 is the sweet spot and the Nexus has been my favorite.....so far.
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Maybe not the best in sheer performance, but I would definitely say the best overall when it comes to value quality and performance as a package. And its a nexus, after getting my gnex in July I don't think I'll ever get another non-nexus android device.
On another note, when I decided to get one (I buy everything in 32gb where possible) most stores were out of stock, I bought the last one office depot had in.
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Lame how CNET had to include the rubbish ipad mini as a runner up. Perhaps apple paid to get it I think there.
It doesn't deserve to be in the top 10 IMHO, it's overpriced and under spec.
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It's the best of the cheap tablets but lack of TV output, poor Nexus' battery life and lack of a full screen web experience still leave iPad mini in the top spot imho.

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It's the best of the cheap tablets but lack of TV output, poor Nexus' battery life and lack of a full screen web experience still leave iPad mini in the top spot imho.
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Poor battery life? Not my experience at all. of course, I've only had it for a little over a week. Still, I've used the heck out of this little device and haven't felt the need to run to the charger. Two days is my requirement. If it can last me two days with heavy use then battery life will never be an issue. The Nexus 7 does this and more. Also, maybe I have very clear vision, but I think seeing web sites in full desktop view is fine on the Nexus 7. I always hit the "request full desktop option under chrome when browsing.
But it still nice to get someone's opinion who favors other devices. IMHO, the lack of a true HD screen, the wider and taller form factor (yes it is noticeable after holding the two devices in your hand), having to look at the same static stale home screen all the time, puts the iPad Mini near the bottom spot for me. Frankly, even if the Nexus 7 was priced the same at $329, I still think it is the better buy.

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It's the best of the cheap tablets but lack of TV output, poor Nexus' battery life and lack of a full screen web experience still leave iPad mini in the top spot imho.
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The lack of the TV output is most certainly a valid point, but I really don't know of anyone that uses that on a tablet. I have it on my Acer Iconia A100 and I have the HDMI cable and I used it once just to check it out. Not really that important with very few use cases.
The full screen web experience thing is a little confusing. You get the full desktop versions of the sites if desired. Web browsing is very snappy due to the quad core processor and 1GB of ram.
The iPad mini does have the upper hand on the battery life though, but it is by 2 hours. The iPad gets 12 hours while the Nexus 7 gets 10. I don't think I have ever used a tablet for 10 hours in a single day.

Yeah my first tablet and loving it.
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Battery life is excellent and TV out is ...
If this thing had airplay and was glued together properly it would be perfect.

Returning to best buy.. want to restore stock.

Got my note and rooted it in less than 30 min and now I think I'm exchanging it for an Asus that is giving me a good deal. I noticed my firmware is li3.. I have n8013.. where can I find the Odin firmware.. I've only found the lh2.. or does it not matter? Has anyone been successful returning it back to stock with untripped counter? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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just do factory reset. they won't check it, don't worry. If you want, you can always download them at sammobile.com

Just return it. They aren't going to check anything

Even with a modded recovery? Lol seems risky to just return it all modded out aha
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So I can get a tf300 for 300 dollars right now.. do u think its a bad decision over this note.. I love everything about the note but the screen kills it.. and for 150 dollars less the Asus seems to be the better deal. Anybody want to give me some opinions on this. Still trying to make up my mind. Its really tough.
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So I can get a tf300 for 300 dollars right now.. do u think its a bad decision over this note.. I love everything about the note but the screen kills it.. and for 150 dollars less the Asus seems to be the better deal. Anybody want to give me some opinions on this. Still trying to make up my mind. Its really tough.
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Wait, the tf300 has about the same size screen as the 10.1 (1280x800). If you want the 1920x1200 screen you need to get the tf700 infinity.

LurkerLito said:
Wait, the tf300 has about the same size screen as the 10.1 (1280x800). If you want the 1920x1200 screen you need to get the tf700 infinity.
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Yes it has the same but its 150 dollars back in my pocket..I'm a lil bummed that there are others tablets for the same price with much better resolution. I have a note 2.. and things look better on it than the 10.1... basically I just want some Input on whether its better to save 150 and go with Asus or stick with the 10.1..
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pezlomd said:
So I can get a tf300 for 300 dollars right now.. do u think its a bad decision over this note.. I love everything about the note but the screen kills it.. and for 150 dollars less the Asus seems to be the better deal. Anybody want to give me some opinions on this. Still trying to make up my mind. Its really tough.
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I have the tf300 and when I got the note 10.1 it was not a contest. The note is obviously more responsive. The tf300 has a couple of good roms available and Asus is the best with updates. But I keep the note with me and the wife has the tf300. It might not be that big of an issue to you since you have note II.
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The processor and ram alone makes it better then that Asus....

The note is way better than the ASUS tf300. The software and interface is better. The Note is faster and more responsive. I chose the Note over the tf700 for the same reason. I owned a Transformer tf101 for the last year and have played with the 300 and 700 extensively. Once I started playing with the Note it was over. I think the screen is quite nice, definitely better than tf101. II've only owned the Note for 2 days but I've been very impressed so far.

The note is by far the best. I had tf201 and tf700. Played with the 300 and it felt like a prime with better Wi-Fi. The note however beats them all hands down all around the block. Sure Asus updates quicker but they feel slower and stutter more. Not to mention you can kiss your warranty goodbye for Asus for custom roms.
Bottom line stick with the note.
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The note is way better than the ASUS tf300. The software and interface is better. The Note is faster and more responsive. I chose the Note over the tf700 for the same reason. I owned a Transformer tf101 for the last year and have played with the 300 and 700 extensively. Once I started playing with the Note it was over. I think the screen is quite nice, definitely better than tf101. II've only owned the Note for 2 days but I've been very impressed so far.
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Man my note 2 is just such a beast. You think they will give the same note 2 abilities to this bad guy note 10.
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I don't know why people are impressed with lots of updates....
Seems to me that someone who updates continuously is doing so because there are major problems with their OS... Look at windows, updates for vista were made everyday but with windows seven there are a lot less.
Just because updates are pushed by Asus doesn't mean its a better tablet, just that it is probably buggier and they're trying to play catchup...
The Note 10.1, though not perfect, was a very stable tablet from the day I powered it up for the first time. JB may be a long time coming but at least it should be a good, stable rom that is pushed out.

Is the note really worth the $450 even if you have no plans on using the s pen.
I played with one for a couple of minutes in bestbuy on Wednesday but couldn't get over the price point especially since i don't see myself using the s pen, worse now that the tf300 is $300 for the 32gb model.
My biggest need is a really good, quick, responsive web browsing experience. It seems like the tegra 3 is not equipped to offer me what I need but im not sure if the exynos can handle it either.

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I don't know why people are impressed with lots of updates....
Seems to me that someone who updates continuously is doing so because there are major problems with their OS... Look at windows, updates for vista were made everyday but with windows seven there are a lot less.
Just because updates are pushed by Asus doesn't mean its a better tablet, just that it is probably buggier and they're trying to play catchup...
The Note 10.1, though not perfect, was a very stable tablet from the day I powered it up for the first time. JB may be a long time coming but at least it should be a good, stable rom that is pushed out.
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I agree. But this is not why I'm considering it. Apart from the pen and touchwiz I feel like its about the same. Sure less ram but for 300 dollars it seams like a no brainer value. The note is quick I'll give it that and I'm starting to like it more and more but at times I feel like my note 2 has so much more to offer with the s pen, multiwindow jelly bean out the box. I thought the note 10 would be just as good. I can't even hover scroll with the pen like I do with the pen on the note 2.. the screen does look good but I would expect more from the price. I'll prob end up keeping this thing anyways tho.. hearing a lot of negatives about the Asus line. Even tho it seems just as good.
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pezlomd said:
Yes it has the same but its 150 dollars back in my pocket..I'm a lil bummed that there are others tablets for the same price with much better resolution. I have a note 2.. and things look better on it than the 10.1... basically I just want some Input on whether its better to save 150 and go with Asus or stick with the 10.1..
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It really comes down to how you use your tablet IMHO. I want to use my tablet like a notebook with a pen and paper like interface, so for me the Note 10.1 was the best fit. The price difference was a factor at first when I was deciding between a tf300,tf700,nexus 10 and Note 10.1. But in the end, the most important thing for me was the user interface on how i used the device. The S-Pen and the applications like S-note, were exactly how I wanted to use a tablet device, so the price difference and even the screen resolution didn't matter nearly as much. I'd say look at how you are planning on using the device, and decide based on that first. Price is a factor but if you save 150 but don't use the device as much because you lost important features you didn't realize were important to you, then the savings weren't worth it IMHO.

I owned the tf300 for three weeks. It was purchased from BB for $269, 16G version. The tf300 was returned to BB and I pickup a note 10.1 for $459. Much more than I wanted to pay but this tablet is great.
Tf300
okay tablet but the bootloader was locked - my device would not unlock with Asus tool.
lagged
Qual score about 3400
Galaxy note 10.1
rooted with custom Rom - took me about one hour
Run really fast qual score about 5700
Screen looks good
I will keep this tablet for three weeks than make a decision.

I didn't have any problems with the bootloader unlock tool by Asus but many others did. If price is an issue then consider the nexus 10 over the tf300. Some of the issues with the tf300 have been fixed because simple tasks like downloading apps would cripple the tablet and cause the play store to force close. A few updates and a move to "Clean Rom" had everything running smooth. You wont be blown away with the note 10.1 because you have the note 2.
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I have both the note 2 and the 3g note 10.1 with the jelly bean update. I love the 10.1 because it has not given me any major issues with regards to crashing etc it is super smooth with the quad core and 2gigs of Ram. Yes the display may not be as good as the newer transformers but everything else is much better in my opinion.
With the jelly bean update, it is as good as the note 2 because it contains all of its features but on a larger screen which is far more practical for professional use such as taking notes at meetings etc. The multitasking is also more meaningful on a 10.1 unless you are using the smart dock for the note 2 or connecting via an mhl cable to a larger display.
I have no regrets having both devices. If price is one of the biggest factors for you then go for the Asus otherwise stick to the note and you will not regret this decision. A number of people think initially that the pen is not going to be used that often but after putting it to practical use, they soon change their opinion about it.
I have come from the original transformer so do not notice or mind a reduction in display quality as the notes one is more than adequate and if I want true hd quality, I just connect it to a TV or projector with hd via an mhl lead or the all share cast dongle.

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Is the note really worth the $450 even if you have no plans on using the s pen.
I played with one for a couple of minutes in bestbuy on Wednesday but couldn't get over the price point especially since i don't see myself using the s pen, worse now that the tf300 is $300 for the 32gb model.
My biggest need is a really good, quick, responsive web browsing experience. It seems like the tegra 3 is not equipped to offer me what I need but im not sure if the exynos can handle it either.
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You get what you pay for. As someone said above, the TF300 is a de-contented Prime with better wireless which makes it over a year old both in design and components. The Note supports 5GHz dual-channel Wi-Fi with channel bonding (like the newest iPad), has BT 4.0 (the TF300 is 2.0 and the TF700 3.0), dual-channel RAM, 2GB of RAM (vs. 1GB), Glonass support for location services, two forward facing speakers, a flash for the rear camera, and a larger battery.
You specifically mentioned web browsing. All Asus tablets suffer from IO issues caused by their choice of storage solution. When there are background processes running the browser and UI can become almost unusable. There are hacks available to make things better but the device needs to be unlocked and that voids your warranty. Adding $100 for SquareTrade (unless you don't care about a warranty) puts the two devices closer in price. And multiview, even without S Pen, is a really cool feature in a 10” device.
Here's a component comparison between the TF700 (a "better" device than the TF300) and the Note. If there's a corner that can be cut, Asus will cut it. You'd be better off picking up a used Note or N10 off of eBay or CL to stay in your price range than buying a year-old new TF300.

Thinking of returning my tf300...

Okay, so a little over a week, and I'm thinking of returning this, and getting a note 10.1.
Sounds is a little quiet. Word processing isn't that great, considering it's got is own keyboard dock. There is some keyboard lag.
I love the quick charging, touchpad though.
Biggest problem is the flex. This tablet creaks and flexes. Makes me a little worried about durability. Any thoughts and input would be welcomed.
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mrbkkt1 said:
Okay, so a little over a week, and I'm thinking of returning this, and getting a note 10.1.
Sounds is a little quiet. Word processing isn't that great, considering it's got is own keyboard dock. There is some keyboard lag.
I love the quick charging, touchpad though.
Biggest problem is the flex. This tablet creaks and flexes. Makes me a little worried about durability. Any thoughts and input would be welcomed.
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I personally have a tf300, and I work at Best Buy where I have sold dozens of them (many with docks). Our display model goes through ALOT of abuse with our customers, kids, and my co-workers who don't know how to use it, or set the device in it. It still works perfectly fine, and has no problems. I can vouch for the durability of the tablet and its dock. I really think this is the one of the best tablets. I am also familiar with the Note. Its expensive, but its another favorite at Best Buy. One of the most advanced tabs we sell. No dock though.

Ended up returning it. Bought a note from Costco for $430.
Hopefully the next generation of transformer has its own " office" suite that works flawless. Also, reading the forums has me thinking that I shouldn't have updated to jellybean out of the box. The note is just much " sturdier" , no flex.
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I just don't see $130 worth of difference between it and the Asus though. I've only got $359 invested in my tab AND dock and it's nice. I have no idea what you're talking about dock keyboard lag either. I've used mine a bunch and never once experienced any lag.
When it all boils down to it, all that matters is that you are happy with it though.
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I just don't see $130 worth of difference between it and the Asus though. I've only got $359 invested in my tab AND dock and it's nice. I have no idea what you're talking about dock keyboard lag either. I've used mine a bunch and never once experienced any lag.
When it all boils down to it, all that matters is that you are happy with it though.
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No lag in the stock note app, but in Polaris, kingsoft, and quick office pro. I think that is on the edge of being perfect, next version I will consider.
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stick with the note forget asus

R3Z4545 said:
stick with the note forget asus
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+1 for note 10.1. Keyboard dock is the only thing that Asus tf300 better than 10.1.
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tritran18518 said:
+1 for note 10.1. Keyboard dock is the only thing that Asus tf300 better than 10.1.
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Yeah but that dock is a huge PLUS. I love mine. The added battery life is nice too.

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you didn't unlock the tablet? the 300 is a monster with a unlocked bootloader and cleanrom, better yet the fastest tablet out next to the tf700...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...iew-an-embarrassing-lazy-arrogant-money-grab/
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tritran18518 said:
+1 for note 10.1. Keyboard dock is the only thing that Asus tf300 better than 10.1.
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Samsung take forever to release updates (it took them over 3 months to get Jelly Bean on the Note 10.1 when the TF300 already had it).
The Note 10.1 also just doesn't feel as premium compared to the TF300.
The only real benefits I can see that the Note 10.1 has are: Audio, Faster Processor and an extra 1GB of RAM.

Admiral2145 said:
you didn't unlock the tablet? the 300 is a monster with a unlocked bootloader and cleanrom, better yet the fastest tablet out next to the tf700...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...iew-an-embarrassing-lazy-arrogant-money-grab/
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I try not to root my tablets, only my phones. I lost a couple of documents while typing them. Kind of put me off, but the killer is the weight balance and flex. Never reallly felt comfortable holding it wth one hand. Also, for pure speed, I would have bought an n10. I did enjoy the fast charging and extended battery with the dock, not to mention the touchpad.
The note definitely has a more premium feel in hand, aspecially the balance and glass surface. Resolution ist as good though.
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you can wait what other samsung tablets get release this year
samsung takes it time to update but so does asus they might see 4.2 before us

Asus are generally quick with updates in my opinion. The transformer TF300 was one of the first devices (outside of the nexus devices) to receive JB if i'm not mistaken
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They are already porting 4.2.1...It's easy because the nexus 7 is the TF300T minus sd card and dock(7 inch screen).
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I really do think that Asus has something here. I love the galaxy note as well. If I could basically take the camera and dock from the Asus and merge it with the note, I would have a perfect tablet.
Also a dedicated word processing app that works flawless with no chance of data loss.
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Admiral2145 said:
you didn't unlock the tablet? the 300 is a monster with a unlocked bootloader and cleanrom, better yet the fastest tablet out next to the tf700...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...iew-an-embarrassing-lazy-arrogant-money-grab/
http://cdn.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/nexusae0_wm_do-not-buy.jpg
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- Well, back plastic of our tf300 just a little better than the note 10.1 but users will buy a case anyway so that is not a a bif problem , i think.
- 10.1 runs slowly on stock rom. Same thing happen to our tf300. Stock rom on our tablet is [email protected] ( can't even load webpages normally)
- camera, i believe most users don't usually use their tab to take pics
==> for $100 more , note 10.1 have better processor, 2gb ram, s-pen, better display. I think note 10.1 is better choice if you have money to buy one. Or even buy an ipad 3, which is very good for daily use.
p/s: i bought my tab from craiglist for $230 and for that amount of money, i have nothing to complain about. But if i bought this tab with full price, i will regret for sure.

tritran18518 said:
- Well, back plastic of our tf300 just a little better than the note 10.1 but users will buy a case anyway so that is not a a bif problem , i think.
- 10.1 runs slowly on stock rom. Same thing happen to our tf300. Stock rom on our tablet is [email protected] ( can't even load webpages normally)
- camera, i believe most users don't usually use their tab to take pics
==> for $100 more , note 10.1 have better processor, 2gb ram, s-pen, better display. I think note 10.1 is better choice if you have money to buy one. Or even buy an ipad 3, which is very good for daily use.
p/s: i bought my tab from craiglist for $230 and for that amount of money, i have nothing to complain about. But if i bought this tab with full price, i will regret for sure.
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I disagree on the back. The note 2 has way less flex but isn't as grippy.
Agree on the camera, I rarely use them.
The display on the tf300 kicks the crap on the note resolution wise, but I love using the s pen. It's a wash, cause the screen (gorilla glass) makes me trust the Note more.
As far as cases, almost impossible to buy a tf300 case without going online, I went the lazy route and for it from Best buy for the note.
All of these could have been avoided maybe by buying the 700 but price wise, it just brought me back to the Note. Do miss the usb drive though.
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