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Any Gnote users also have Nexus 7

Hi
i would like to know some of your opinions if you have both the Galaxy Note and also a Nexus 7
i have had my note for almost a year now - generally all pretty good
but for some things i am thinking about the nexus 7
maybe for a bigger ebook reader - kindle / BBC news / Flipboard etc- i have a lot of books which would benefit perhaps on a bigger screen
Tegra 3 - one of the reasons why i would like the nexus 7 - some games can only be played on a tegra 3 device - i am not a really big game player but sometimes would like to play Horn, Dark meadow and the other tegra 3 only games which cannot be played on the Note
general web browsing / ocassional movie watching when out and about would be nice on a bigger screen
i live in europe so google voice is not available at this time - so i wont really use it for any phone calls - maybe skype but ocassionally
i am trying to establish how much of a use it will get in order to see if its worth to purchase it..
please share your useages and experiences with owning both

Actually I have both items, G Note and Nexus 7
I bought the Nexus 7 two months ago, and the Gx Note last week.
Since I bought the Note, I've never used again the Nexus 7 (I'm selling it)
I've downloaded some Tegra Only games and only tried them for a while and never played again.
The Nexus has a bit bigger screen than Note, it is more fast and the touch responsiveness is better, but I prefer to have a decent "All In One" device like the Note (with a good replaceable battery and micro SD slot whith tons of films in it) than having to carry with another device only for a "little more of screen"

I have both too. But I find the Note to be slightly better for everyday use. It's decent sized and runs games (that I play) perfectly fine. Screen is a bit small (as opposed to the 7) for web browsing, but that's something I can live with. On the other hand, the nexus 7 screen is right in the middle of the Note and a 10" tablet. For certain apps, if I run the phone version on the 7, the UI's too big (big buttons, big text); but if I run the tablet version of the app, texts are often too small to read on the 7 inch and some buttons are harder to press as they've been resized to fit the 7" screen. Sorry for my english but I think you get my point.

Now that we have jelly bean running on our exynos powered phones, the whole performance argument doesn't fly. Pretty sure the note outperforms anything with a tegra 3, despite having half as many cores. Exynos ftw!
Apple innovates and Samsung copies, huh? Tell that to my Galaxy Note.

I have the note and 2 nexus 7 had 2 more but sold them, the nexus is much faster (all are running paranoid android 2.5 ROMs if I were going to read , check emails , look up something on the internet it would be no question the nexus 7, if I wanted something small / more portable to check something quick then the note is better plus if need some to make phone calls without being linked to another device ie. Tablet talk then obviously the note is your choice, even though I don't use the note as a phone anymore I would never sell it
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Hi There,
I have a Nexus 7 and a GN. The Nexus is lightning fast, and a real pleasure for games or as a e-reader. I use both devices every day, and I love both.
I use my Nexus for navigation in my car (with car mount). The GN sits in my console, connected to BT for calls.
The one thing I do find is that the Nexus connects to GPS faster, and the nav app (Waze) seems snappier.

Whilst I do love the Nexus 7, as it is an amazingly capable tablet for a very respectable price, there is very little point in any 7" tablet in my opinion so long as you own any of the newer Android devices that often employ a 4.5+ inch display and especially if you own a phone/tablet hybrid such as the Galaxy Note. In my personal opinion, a tablet should be around the 10" mark like the iPad. It is just a nice size for greater productivity, whilst still maintaining greater portability than a laptop.

xxBrun0xx said:
Now that we have jelly bean running on our exynos powered phones, the whole performance argument doesn't fly. Pretty sure the note outperforms anything with a tegra 3, despite having half as many cores. Exynos ftw!
Apple innovates and Samsung copies, huh? Tell that to my Galaxy Note.
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My Note is running the leaked 4.1.1 rom and the nexus the stock 4.1.2 from google and the nexus is a lot faster than the Note

cadcat said:
Hi There,
I have a Nexus 7 and a GN. The Nexus is lightning fast, and a real pleasure for games or as a e-reader. I use both devices every day, and I love both.
I use my Nexus for navigation in my car (with car mount). The GN sits in my console, connected to BT for calls.
The one thing I do find is that the Nexus connects to GPS faster, and the nav app (Waze) seems snappier.
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Same here - have both and am pleased with both. Use the Nexus 7 more for movies and books.

thank you all for this feedback and opinions
a lot of good points have been made here regarding speed of the nexus, size and usages what you have
from what i have evaluated certain tasks are better suited on the nexus and other tasks are more geared towards the note..due to its size etc
lots of things to think about here....

I have Note and tried nexus. Just doesn't feel big enough and had other limitations that didn't help. My Note and Transformer prime work a lot better as a combo for me.
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I have a Galaxy Note and a Nexus 7. Although its a nice device i hardly use my nexus 7 as my Note can do everything it can (except the tegra3 specific games) but theyre not really that good tbh. Nexus 7 with Jelly Bean was much smoother but i have since installed super nexus rom on my note and theyre pretty much the same now.

My Nexus is mostly a home device for me until I get my hands on the 3g version then i will bring it out and will be doing mostly my surfing and emails with it. My Gnote is mostly just phone calls and occasional quick surfing, whatsapp, Facebook, etc.
I reckon a tablet and phone have their own specific uses and each supplement the cons of the other. Everyone should have both!
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First of all hi to all of you, I am new to the xda forums and a proud owner of a galaxy note which will soon get a custom rom .
I was also thinking about buying a Nexus 7 mainly for reading ebooks but I am unsure about the display quality - isn't the notes super amoled far superior?

kasus said:
First of all hi to all of you, I am new to the xda forums and a proud owner of a galaxy note which will soon get a custom rom .
I was also thinking about buying a Nexus 7 mainly for reading ebooks but I am unsure about the display quality - isn't the notes super amoled far superior?
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I have both aswell and happy with both of them. One would expect the screen quality of Gnote to be better due to the super amoled tech it uses but in reality it have black clipping issues which make watching low quality videos a problem.
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is the Galaxy Note S-Pen working on the Nexus 7 ??
if yes - how is the experience - same as the note or better /worse

I too have both. I love everything about the Note (previous phones were Nexus One followed by Nexus S) except what it's missing... the Nexus experience. The Nexus 7 reminded me what I'm missing. My wife inherited my Nexus S and I still envy her smooth clean experience with a phone that's 2 years old. She has JB with Google Now and all the goodies... I sit here with a beautiful 5.3" screen, and incredibly powerful hand held computer, but stuck on ICS. When will we get JB on the Note (Samsung is in no hurry.They want to sell new phones)? I considered rooting and installing a rom, but after following this forum since I purchased my Nexus One, I decided to stay stock. Too many problems.
After much thought I've decided to sell my Note and will pre-order the Nexus 4 as soon as it hits the Play Store. I will never buy a phone or tablet again without it being pure Google.

ilegales said:
is the Galaxy Note S-Pen working on the Nexus 7 ??
if yes - how is the experience - same as the note or better /worse
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No.
I have, had both. Love both.

kasus said:
First of all hi to all of you, I am new to the xda forums and a proud owner of a galaxy note which will soon get a custom rom .
I was also thinking about buying a Nexus 7 mainly for reading ebooks but I am unsure about the display quality - isn't the notes super amoled far superior?
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Blacks are a lot blacker with the note but I was surprised that the nexus looks much sharper and detailed. Maybe is my lame screen protector not sure.
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Can't decide between new Nexus 7 and Note 8.0

I've owned a N7 2012 for about a year, and I have a buyer for my old one, so I'm looking at upgrading. I haven't used a stylus device in years, but I used to love them: precision text editing, sketches to supplement an explanation, and unambiguous link clicking in the browser.
I expect longevity from my devices, and my previous experience has been that the charging connector breaks first on every mobile device I've had. This gives the N7 the serious advantage with the Qi inductive charging.
OTOH, the Note's performance is more future-proof: a 96GB Note (thanks SD-card expansion) will stay useful longer with a 32GB N7, and the benchmarks also come out clearly in favour of the Note: (Slashgear Note 6900 http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/quadrant_gnote8_attwtmk.jpg vs N7 5600 http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content...enshot_2013-07-25-13-17-52-google-nexus-7.jpg ).
But the performance doesn't count for all that much, since my main use for my current N7 has been reading: PDFs, e-books and websites. I use it mostly around the house, and my phone when I'm out and about.
Can anyone suggest something I haven't considered that may be relevant? The price isn't going to sway me much one way or the other.
Thanks

I prefer note 8 due to larger size and I won't mind carrying a slightly bigger one. Was coming from 7.7. I would have taken if it's nexus 8.
Happy user of note 8.
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I don't know what I can add except my reason for buying a Note 8.0--the pen. I bought my Note for school to replace everything in my bookbag--no more notebooks, no more laptop, no more text books. So far I'm very happy with my decision. I was also considering the new Nexus but because I wanted the ability to take notes, the lack of a wacom pen was off-putting. The Note was well worth the extra money for me.

I'm split between these two devices also. The new Nexus has the 1080p screen and prompt updates in its favor. The Note 8, suprisingly has a very good screen despite being 1280*800, but don't expect to get any updates for this. I mean you can always go AOSP or AOKP but that defeats the purpuse of even buying a Note. So if being stuck at Android 4.1.2 forever doesn't bother you the Note is a good choice.

logicrulez said:
I'm split between these two devices also. The new Nexus has the 1080p screen and prompt updates in its favor. The Note 8, suprisingly has a very good screen despite being 1280*800, but don't expect to get any updates for this. I mean you can always go AOSP or AOKP but that defeats the purpuse of even buying a Note. So if being stuck at Android 4.1.2 forever doesn't bother you the Note is a good choice.
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why should we not expect updates for the note 8.0? I thought they were already working on e 4.2.2 build. in fact a quick search suggests thats its already available

I had the nexus 7.2 for a week and a half, the 16Gb version and it had a very nice screen fast processor but returned it due to frequent reboots, apparently it only happens on the 16Gb version. Got the note 8 instead. Am very satisfied with it.
I'd recommend you get the Nexus 7.2 first use it for a week then return and get the Note 8, that way you can see the strength and weakness of both and then decide which one is more useful to you. I am glad I did that, the Nexus 7.2 was how to say this not to hurt anyones feelings -plain vanilla- which is not bad, but you can't really compare the two because of the S pen feature on the Note 8. The Note 8 screen is not bad at all, but the 7.2 beats it, and I find that I do use the S pen more often than I thought I would. Also I'm a long time Samsung user and I like their products. I gave the Nexus 7.2 a try but am more comfortable with the Note 8, also love the S pen, for that alone it was worth it to me.
So as I mentioned get one use it as is for a week or two then return it and get the other one. Test both, but in my opinion you can't really pin the two tablets against each other. They are both good just depends what you are going to use it for, if you're a big game player get the Nexus, if you going to use the tablet for other things get the Note 8
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hertsjoatmon said:
why should we not expect updates for the note 8.0? I thought they were already working on e 4.2.2 build. in fact a quick search suggests thats its already available
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I've owned more than a few Samsung devices, I currently own a two SGS 3, AT&T and Sprint. Neither are on 4.2.2, which is why i'm on CM10.1.2. I'd be pretty happy with a TouchWiz 4.3, but I know Samsung is pretty lame at updates that's why I made that statement, if the Note does get the 4.2.2 update, that's great, but I don't think they will go past that.
Hopefully Samsung is doing an overhaul on TouchWiz all together, I may stick with Samsung devices, otherwise my next device will be a Nexus. I've given up hope for the skin based phones and updates.

It really comes down to how much you value the s-pen....i thought I'd get much more use out of it (i do a lot of handwritten note taking, but at meetings i typically type in notepad) and never did so I just put my Note8 up for sale because the extra $100 wasn't worth it because it was still faster/easier for me to jot something quick on a post it than to take out the spen, launch the note app, scribbe something, save it....
however when I was in school the ability to take down quick notes and write on-screen on pdfs/ppt was *very critical* and I loved my W7 tablet with ntrig (this is all pre-tablets so it just depends on your use case
With OTG usb, you can still use microsd on the Nexus7, althought it's a bit more work and takes up the charging port..not sure if the new N7 has that yet (you had to be rooted on the old N7 to use it)
screenwise, the new N7 quality is much better, but I find the slightly larger note 8 to actually be easier to read on and use

I'm close to making my final decision because I refuse to keep the Note 8.0 and the N7 (2013) that I currently have.
The N7 is super nice. The display keeps drawing me back over and over. I like the fact that I can watch Netflix on it and not accidentally press the back button like I tend to do on the Note 8.0. I love the crisp text in my ebooks. And who doesn't love stock?
The Note 8.0 is better from a productivity standpoint for me, and it's why it currently leads. Outside of holding it in landscape and pressing buttons accidentally, I actually prefer the feel of the Note 8.0 more than the new N7. The display isn't nearly as bad as some would have you believe either. Sure if you have it side by side the N7, you'll see it, but in my opinion it looks real good.
Also a sidenote for comic book readers. I use Comixology, and I'm not a fan of the panel to panel view unless I'm forced to use it due to something being very small. It's easier for me to read comics on the Note 8.0 compared to the N7. Probably because of the extra inch of real estate.
Probably the reason I still go back and forth is because I know I can expect updates and a vibrant dev community on the N7, but probably not so much with the Note 8.0. Heck, I have the AT&T LTE variant, and I sadly can't even root that yet. Good luck with your decision.

I went ahead and ordered the 32GB Nexus 7.2. I figure I can always sell it for about what I paid for it if I decide not to keep it.
I got the previous Nexus 7 as a gift, but actually ended up selling it (and keeping the more lowly spec'd Tab 2 7" I already had) because the Nexus was just so flaky. Apparently it was a great device prior to 4.1, but I only got onboard after that. Plus the speakers were PATHETIC (unacceptable for a device that screams multimedia consumption.) I'm hoping those are better this go-round as I use mine for backgound music/video quite a bit.
There's pros to being on the bleeding edge of updates I guess. But I almost view it like you're being an unofficial beta tester. Samsung may not always have the latest official Android version on all its flagship devices, but all my experiences with them to-date have been outstanding. There's a reason (beyond just marketing) that they're the most dominant OEM in the Android world.

If the primary purpose is reading as OP has posted, I would suggest note 8 to be better choice.
My primary reason for buying note 8.0 was reading (PDF's as well as comics) and considering that almost 38 GB of my external 64 Gig card is occupied by books i would say i am more than pleased by my choice.
The extra screen size does matter here though both share similar 16:10 aspect ratio , which is quite ok,
another surprise feature, the reading mode that samsung built into this is amazing (though it might appear strange at first) but now I just can't imagine reading without that , it's easier on eyes,less stress and for me makes for much better concentration. add a good reader app (I absolutely love the free perfect viewer app for pdf and comics)
The secondary thing for me was the s-pen. since i have been using wacom tablets on pc since late 90's I found this quite adequate. My N-5100 costed me around $530 USD) which is surely definitely on the costlier side of things however I would still consider it worth that extra dough.
I also primarily use this at home and mine is still unrooted (haven't found a need or reason to root it yet).

Gotta decide what's your most important feature.
For me tablets can have two distinct purposes, media consumption device or productivity device. As a media consumption device there isn't much use to me for a tablet because honestly, most things are just more convenient to do on my phone since I always have it, and it has a data connection.
Now as a productivity device, there are a couple things the note 8 excels at. PDF and textbook portability/editing, handwritten notes, and remote desktop control. The spen takes this device to a higher level of productivity because there is no device with a comparable stylus. But for anything else like word document editing, media production, music/picture editing, tablets in general fall short because laptops/desktops are just better.
So if you want a media consumption device, the new Nexus 7 is probably better or even the iPad for that matter. But for productivity the spen will make up for the other shortcomings like lower screen pixel density, less frequent operating system updates, etc.

MobileTechReview posted her review, comparing the two tablets. Everything she said is exactly the same thought I have between the two tablets. I currently have both. I'm more tempted to return the Nexus, but don't know yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7aPvUqdcds
But everything she states in the video is the same opinion that I have noticed from using them.
She doesn't mention bugs, but the Nexus has its own bugs too... such as apps crashing or becoming unresponsive to touches. I have seen the GPS crash several times using a GPS testing app.

It took me ages to decide between the N7 and note 8, and I decided on the note 8. But now I realise, that as I'm going university next year, I'll probably need a laptop, and I'm confused all over again
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logicrulez said:
I'm split between these two devices also. The new Nexus has the 1080p screen and prompt updates in its favor. The Note 8, suprisingly has a very good screen despite being 1280*800, but don't expect to get any updates for this. I mean you can always go AOSP or AOKP but that defeats the purpuse of even buying a Note. So if being stuck at Android 4.1.2 forever doesn't bother you the Note is a good choice.
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4.2.2 is already out for uk. I am on it now
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TC93 said:
MobileTechReview posted her review, comparing the two tablets. Everything she said is exactly the same thought I have between the two tablets. I currently have both. I'm more tempted to return the Nexus, but don't know yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7aPvUqdcds
But everything she states in the video is the same opinion that I have noticed from using them.
She doesn't mention bugs, but the Nexus has its own bugs too... such as apps crashing or becoming unresponsive to touches. I have seen the GPS crash several times using a GPS testing app.
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Agree with almost everything she said as well. I disagree with her assessment of the speakers and volume though. While this year's Nexus finally has proper speakers they're still not as loud as the Note 8's. The quality is a bit better as far as separation/bass goes, but not as loud.
I'm probably going to stick with the Note 8. It's just hard to go back to 7" display no matter what the resolution. It's great that the text is clear, but it's tiny - and the saturation isn't as good. And I've already experienced the Nexus bugginess (unresponsive to touches) several times as well.

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4.2.2 is already out for uk. I am on it now
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How is it compared to 4.1?
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Grogck said:
Agree with almost everything she said as well. I disagree with her assessment of the speakers and volume though. While this year's Nexus finally has proper speakers they're still not as loud as the Note 8's. The quality is a bit better as far as separation/bass goes, but not as loud.
I'm probably going to stick with the Note 8. It's just hard to go back to 7" display no matter what the resolution. It's great that the text is clear, but it's tiny - and the saturation isn't as good. And I've already experienced the Nexus bugginess (unresponsive to touches) several times as well.
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I haven't had any complaints about the Note 8.0 speakers either.

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How is it compared to 4.1?
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Maybe more smooth
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I own the original nexus 7...
I currently own an ipad 4 (so I'm used to looking at retina display), I've had the note 10.1, nexus 10, etc....
Honestly I think 8" is the sweet spot. I want to love thenew nexus 7 so bad but I feel like 7" is just a tad too small. The extra screen area from an 8" tablet seems sooo much larger and more usable when browsing websites. Am I crazy? I feel like I keep reading about screen clarity vs spen vs whatever ... but to me the real battle is do you prefer 7" vs 8" - I'm probably going to get both and then return the one I dont' like. As I said, I'm used to the retina screen as well as the beautiful screen on my htc one; however just playing around with the note in the store, the screen honestly isn't that bad and colors are quite quite good.
That said, the nexus 7 screen is by far superior BUT I still think the larger size provides so much better screen real estate and thus ease of use.
Anyone not get the nexus 7 simply because they don't like a 7" tablet?

Note 2 vs Note 3 - real world performance

I bought the note 3 to replace the note 2.
I have not yet sold the note 2 and have been testing both phones simultaneously to determine for myself if the upgrade is worth it.
Note 2 setup: stock ( leaked android 4.3) , a few apps installed
Note 3 setup: stock (Android 4.3), same apps as installed on note 2
Benchmarks Apps:
Note 3 beats Note 2 in all I have tried.
Real world use/Apps:
I have run several applications (multiple times ). Some are .....
Browers: chrome, default browser,
Snote
Gmail
Youtube
Speedtest
maps
Camera
Google now
etc...
In several cases, the note 2 is slightly faster than note 3 ( yes, this is not a typo)
Not by much...... but note 2 in "real world use/applications" seems ever so slightly faster than note 3.
In multi-tasking/split window, I run CPU-Z side by side with the chrome browser.
This was to monitor the 4 cpu cores during browser benchmarks.
I tried the following browser benchmark tests....
1. browsermark - rightware.com
2. sunspider
In both tests, the note 2 out-performed the note 3. -----------update: {may have been due to thermal throtling}
I have searched the net and surprisingly, no one else seems to have noticed/reported this.
Can someone else with both phones verify this?
note 3: SM-N900 ( 1.9Ghz) - Octa-core
note 2: GT-N7100 (1.6Ghz) - Quad-core
Update:
I've run the online browser benchmarks a couple more times after some hours of rest.
Sunspider 1.0 scores {firefox}:
note 2: [ 664.4ms]........note 3: [ 414.8ms]
Benchmarks are consistently showing note 3 as faster than note 2.
Real world use shows little to no difference.

I don't think that a few seconds make a difference between two smartphones as daily driver. So I don't think the note 3 is worth the upgrade at least for what I heard. Thanks for sharing!
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I dont have the Note 3, but I have just seen a video of the "famous" LG G2, with the S800, running some top games with FPS meter enabled, and I'm proud to say than my "old" Note 2 has the same performance, and in some games is even better! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16TAbUkAHlU
Benchmarks are the most useless thing that happened to mobile phones. And you can prove it with your own Note 2. Flash an AOSP rom and run a benchmark like 3DMark, you'll get a better result than in stock TouchWiz. So, this means that games should run better on AOSP, right? Then run some game. They will lag WAY more on AOSP roms than in stock roms. Benchmarks aren't a good indicator of anything.
In conclusion, I think phone specs are evolving, that's for sure, but the improvement between generations, like Note 2 -> Note 3, are little in terms of performance, it's not worth the huge amount of money they cost.

Maybe most apps are optimized for 720p rather than 1080p.
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Very interesting. I wonder how long it will take for the rest of the world to catch on to this... or if they ever will?

Thats so interesting. .I wouldnt ever expect that and first time hearing it. No i feel a sense to apprach note 3 performance suspected.
If you proove this with a video screenshots and some benchmark test you would do a revolution i guess..
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More and more I believe that with top of the line smartphones like these, upgrading is necessary only every two years. I had the S2 before this and it's really when I began to feel the slouch in newer games that I decided to upgrade.
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cdlq456 said:
I dont have the Note 3, but I have just seen a video of the "famous" LG G2, with the S800, running some top games with FPS meter enabled, and I'm proud to say than my "old" Note 2 has the same performance, and in some games is even better! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16TAbUkAHlU
Benchmarks are the most useless thing that happened to mobile phones. And you can prove it with your own Note 2. Flash an AOSP rom and run a benchmark like 3DMark, you'll get a better result than in stock TouchWiz. So, this means that games should run better on AOSP, right? Then run some game. They will lag WAY more on AOSP roms than in stock roms. Benchmarks aren't a good indicator of anything.
In conclusion, I think phone specs are evolving, that's for sure, but the improvement between generations, like Note 2 -> Note 3, are little in terms of performance, it's not worth the huge amount of money they cost.
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I have stored worrying about benchmarks because all people say is the phones cheat the score. I would rather see just see real world performance. And like a PC a higher clock speed and more cores does not mean better performance.
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note 2 to 3 not compelling upgrade
very useful, thanks.
I was considering upgrading when Note 3 prices fall, maybe early 2014. But now I am far from sure especially with Samsung's stupid region locking.
Reasons to upgrade:
IR emitter for TV remote control. Vaguely useful, perhaps in bars and restaurants when their TVs are turned up too loud so's I can turn them off or down!
USB3. Possible good for faster charging off computer and occasionally dumping in a load of music files.
802.11ac. Maybe I'll upgrade one day at home?
Display. Reports suggest it's easier to read outdoors.
Reasons I was considering not upgrading:
Note2 can support all the note3 software. We just have to wait for Samsung to release it. Or androiders to kang the note3 rom.
Am happy with 720p display. I have quite good eyesight, with corrected vision (short sighted) and I never feel my Note2 needs more pixels on the screen. A better sensor in the camera for low light would be nice but the camera is good for casual shots.
Camera already good enough.
NFC antenna. I like the NFC antenna not being part of the battery so I can use Anker third party battery which gives as good as OEM battery.
S-Pen already good enough fine. I got used to the only minor nuisance that the off-screen capacitive buttons couldn't sense the pen.
CPU already fast enough.
802.11ac wifi. I don't have anything which supports super high speed wifi. I'd end up buying an 11ac access point, then would want to upgrade my laptop wifi card too.
Besides, 802.11a/n is faster than my broadband at home. And at work we don't even have 802.11a.

I too have the Note 2 (international) and the AT&T Note 3... I can say that if you don't have an upgrade available it definitely IS NOT worth paying full retail price for the phone. I signed a new 2 year agreement to get it for $288.88 and I can turn around and sell my Note 2 for $350-400 easily making my money back...
The pros with the Note 3 are that the screen is absolutely beautiful! Besides the S4 this is the most amazing screen I have ever seen with my own eyes. Next, comes the software. There's a lot of new small changes that make things easier to use, however most of these things will be coming to a Note 2 via an update. If you're into aesthetics then this device looks more "premium" over a Note 2 and I almost don't want to cover it with a case.
As far as performance goes, you can notice it slightly. Apps open faster, but it could be due to the increase in screen sensitivity also. TouchWiz eats up over 1 gig of ram leaving a little more than 1 gig free for user apps. On my note 2 with my custom rom I would use about 600mb of ram leaving a litle more than 1 gig free also. No improvements here.
Some buggy things I've noticed so far is that my text vibration is very weak compared to others such as email. Also every app gives me a vibration alert even if I turned it off.
There's a lot of bloat on here even for a carrier phone. Most of it is from Samsung it seems.
Besides the few "pros" I see with the Note 3, I would not recommend anyone to purchase it over a Note 2 unless you have an upgrade you can use. Especially an AT&T one with a locked bootloader, which forces you to keep all these useless apps running on your phone.

LDDR3 and USB3 better than note2
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LDDR3 and USB3 better than note2
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is it real world performance?

i dont know what is real world performance.but
when i playing flac music and browsing pictures,note2 get lags.
with leaked 4.3
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Leaked 4.3 is not final. Also I hope you flashed Wanam or such 4.3 based ROMs, not just 4.3 as it is. Either way pretty sure it's Touchwizlag.

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I too have the Note 2 (international) and the AT&T Note 3... I can say that if you don't have an upgrade available it definitely IS NOT worth paying full retail price for the phone. I signed a new 2 year agreement to get it for $288.88 and I can turn around and sell my Note 2 for $350-400 easily making my money back...
The pros with the Note 3 are that the screen is absolutely beautiful! Besides the S4 this is the most amazing screen I have ever seen with my own eyes. Next, comes the software. There's a lot of new small changes that make things easier to use, however most of these things will be coming to a Note 2 via an update. If you're into aesthetics then this device looks more "premium" over a Note 2 and I almost don't want to cover it with a case.
As far as performance goes, you can notice it slightly. Apps open faster, but it could be due to the increase in screen sensitivity also. TouchWiz eats up over 1 gig of ram leaving a little more than 1 gig free for user apps. On my note 2 with my custom rom I would use about 600mb of ram leaving a litle more than 1 gig free also. No improvements here.
Some buggy things I've noticed so far is that my text vibration is very weak compared to others such as email. Also every app gives me a vibration alert even if I turned it off.
There's a lot of bloat on here even for a carrier phone. Most of it is from Samsung it seems.
Besides the few "pros" I see with the Note 3, I would not recommend anyone to purchase it over a Note 2 unless you have an upgrade you can use. Especially an AT&T one with a locked bootloader, which forces you to keep all these useless apps running on your phone.
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this very well note 3, but I see exorbitant price

There is nothing worth here to give up $450 to trade in my Note II ($850-$400), mine is so fast and so optimised for my needs that will skip the Note 3 for the next one, for me that's the end of the story.

pageniao said:
i dont know what is real world performance.but
when i playing flac music and browsing pictures,note2 get lags.
with leaked 4.3
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Note 3 lags too (stutters ) when ......
playing flac: (44khz, 16bit, 23.35mb) and browsing pictures ( gallery, slideshow )

After 4.3 leak install, my note 2 doesn't have any microlag.
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Note 3 lags too (stutters ) when ......
playing flac: (44khz, 16bit, 23.35mb) and browsing pictures ( gallery, slideshow )
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what player are you using for playing flac?
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what player are you using for playing flac?
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the default music player

Nexus 5 or Note 2?

Nexus 5 released a day back and the specs are not that bad if we see. Now this has given rise to a hunger of having an official google product in me. I use my note 2 like crazy and love it too but I want to see how it feels having a nexus device.
Storage is one thing that still makes me think of retaining my Note 2. I dont use SPen much either. Nexus 5 looks strong on paper and its tempting me. Is it advisable to sell my Note 2 off and get a Nexus 5?

I am in same situation but specs are really a boost from note 2 but major flaws of nexus 5 are storage and battery life....though I really want to see the display comparison....is the nexus 5 display better than note 2's...I know its 1080p compared to 720p but I really saw some 1080p display looking worse than 720p's like xperia z1....
I will wait for some reviews and then will decide is it worth to upgrade..

The Nexus 5 compared to Note 2 , looks like cheep, plastic, smaller and non Spen device.
Next Move will bring us to Note 4.
And the answer is no way to abandon my Note 2.

Performance on the Nexus 5 will be superior. That Snapdragon 800 screams.
The main issue is battery life. A petty 2300mha battery for a 5 inch 1080p display... It's going to suck.

Screen is slightly smaller with more pixels. But it won't be as jumping with colors as it's an LCD type screen vs our AMOLED screens which pop with colors.
The performance will be much better on the Nexus 5. Better processor. Same RAM. Better GPU. More FREE ram at boot.
Now, if I didn't have the Note 2 and I were to buy a new device, I'd get the Nexus 5. But I think the Note 2 is superior FOR MY USAGE. The SPen helps a lot, and the extra screen is great. The screen is plenty packed with pixels for my usage, too. The 2GB ram is great. In fact, the Note 3 having 3GB isn't an upgrade as you have LESS FREE RAM AT BOOT than the Note 2! WTF Samsung! haha. Anyways, RAM is taken care of by the Android OS. But Samsung takes up too much ram to begin with.
With Nexus devices you won't have that issue, as there is nothing at boot extra. It's only Android processes. So it should run much more smoothly. My Note 2 does stutter or lag a little every once in a while, but it doesn't bother me in the slightest.
I don't know... Battery life on both devices are different. Smaller with updated processors vs bigger battery with less efficient display & processor? I don't know... Wait for some battery tests? Regardless, I've never killed my Note 2 in 18 hours except for my vacation days where I'm on a bus or train for 5-6 hours then I get it down a nice amount.

i was also thinking into a change to a nexus but the battery definitely make me consider having my note a year more. i bought the note for screen and battery and mexus doesn't win at any. moreover i dt know any game yet that doesn't run smoothly in the note and the screen difference is not that noticeable since my cousin has a 1080p screen and mine seems to be better also for him.
my 2 cents
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of course Nexus 5. Note 2 will get its last update with Android 4.3 Jelly Bean. But you will have many updates with Nexus 5. If you are not a traveller person, don't think about battery life. Buy 32 gb model and live your days good.

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Nexus 5 released a day back and the specs are not that bad if we see. Now this has given rise to a hunger of having an official google product in me. I use my note 2 like crazy and love it too but I want to see how it feels having a nexus device.
Storage is one thing that still makes me think of retaining my Note 2. I dont use SPen much either. Nexus 5 looks strong on paper and its tempting me. Is it advisable to sell my Note 2 off and get a Nexus 5?
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Non removable battery (instant deal killer right there for me), small and non expandable storage (32GB vs the 80GB total on my Note II), small display (even smaller than its 5" since part of that space is taken up by the virtual buttons), no S-Pen, no Samsung SW features like MultiWindow = for a poweruser they don't even play in the same league.
Samsung is doing something very stupid with the Region Lock and something less stupid but that is pissing powerusers and geeks off with the Knox warranty status but the (sad) truth is that the Note III is the ONLY smartphone out there today which I would replace my Note II with. ANYTHING else is INFERIOR to my Note II.

I gass you have very big hands to use note 3 like phone lol
Ive got note 2 yesterday and one nexus 4
Sorry but that clean android isnt for me. I prefer samsung and htc devices....not nexus
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I will get a Nexus 5 for sure to replace my backup phone HTC HD2, and will also keep my Note II forever!! unless otherwise Samsung smoehow try to screw it up with an dubious update,(yes I don't trust them anymore),I've played with a Note 3 at the store but didn't find it much an upgrade to my existing Note II.

I`d go with nexus 5..coming from note 2 user!!

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The Nexus 5 compared to Note 2 , looks like cheep, plastic
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Yea lol my Note 2's high quality aluminum construction looks so much better
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I've bought n5 and my only worry is battery. I'll tell you in a few days.
I'm happy with N2 but love nexus flavor.
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Well, If I were to buy a new phone and the Playstore sold hardware in my country, I'd seriously consider the Nexus 5.
But as an upgrade to Note 2? No way. Sure, it will run circles around the Note in the performance department... but I find that for my use, the Note's performance is sufficient (even though it lags now and then). Even for games, the lower res mens that pretty much everything runs smooth so far. And the lower res doesn't really bother me, as I find the screen of the Note 2 absolutely fantastic... better then that of HTC One, IMVHO. Xperias just can't compare. Sure some text zoomed out can be a tad sharper on 1080p, but otherwise the screen on the Note 2 is just gorgeous.
The S-Pen is usefull... especially for extending menus while browsing the web. That's one unique functionality that only a handfull of phones has and means that some webpages can only be browsed with these devices. Other tricks like video or gallery highlight thumbs are neat as well. And it's good for Excel editing too, especially during a meeting (otherwise it's quite difficult in a zoomed out view - only view in which you actually see a reasonable amount of data).
Storage? For me 16+64 GB is barely enough. Actually scratch that, 16GB internal is definately NOT enough (a bit more than 10 GB available...). I hope an update can allow me to use the external memory for apps. My memory card is almost full as well. So 32 GB altogether? No thanks (even with less bloat).
Battery? It's decent on the Note 2, but I wouldn't call it a stellar performer. So here we have a battery that's smaller by almost a third? And not removable too? I'll pass, thank you.
Plus, does the Nexus 5 even have the USB OTG capability? I remember there were some issues with the earlier models. I like to output video via MHL... love connecting an external USB drive or additional memory card via a card reader and it can be nice to connect external controllers via USB. Is Nexus 5 able to do this all?
Other stuff, primarily Multiwindow and Popup Browser are neat also. Hopefully even Pen Window will be possible on the Note 2.

duskdiyebiri said:
of course Nexus 5. Note 2 will get its last update with Android 4.3 Jelly Bean. But you will have many updates with Nexus 5. If you are not a traveller person, don't think about battery life. Buy 32 gb model and live your days good.
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It's not correct. Note 2 will get Kitkat update next year
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Think of it this way. Only for a few minor hardware boosts and a new Launcher would you really want to upgrade ?
Note 2 still stands as a power house when compared. And if you like the idea of talking to your phone start using Google Now the experience will be no diff.
On the other thoughts I would love to upgrade to Moto X if ever get an opportunity
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Yea lol my Note 2's high quality aluminum construction looks so much better
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Do let me know.
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After reading all your views I completely feel I'll have that itch with the nexus 5 when it comes to battery and storage Coz both things matter to me. I think my note 2 will stay in my pocket for comparatively good time
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I am running the Ditto note 3 rom. .. With 4.3... Note 3 apps and installed the 4.4 kit kat apps on top of it. .
I also have the nexus 7_2013.. which will get 4.4 and is similar to nexus 5.. But I rarely use it. .
I use my note 8 and note 2 more
Why would I need the nexus 5 ?... Note 2 is good enough. .
Will bother about a new phone next year
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C'mon!
Oh God! I think it makes no sense at all! Galaxy Note II is a pretty much older device which can still be compared to other TOP devices. Plus, the Note II has got touchwiz, and lots of Samsung applications which are pretty usefule. Nexus devices are a little too poor to me. I think that if you want to try out a Nexus device, you should try the Nexus 7 2013! I think that rocks. Got such a cool display, so incredibly fast and pure Google style. Plus: updates and other Nexus stuff.

Nexus 6P or Note 5

Has anyone received the Nexus 6P that already had the Note 5?
I was wondering which one you liked more, and why?

I have them both, just received my 6P. The Note 5 has the edge right now because of its multitasking capabilities. I have to use it more before being more definitive.
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alhadee12 said:
I have them both, just received my 6P. The Note 5 has the edge right now because of its multitasking capabilities. I have to use it more before being more definitive.
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Note 5 has multitasking abilities? It can't even hold more than 4 application in the background...

anglerstock said:
Note 5 has multitasking abilities? It can't even hold more than 4 application in the background...
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Dual window is multitasking. Not having apps waiting on the background.
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I'm getting a note 5 Saturday
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Custom ROM's on the 6p have aosp multitasking option in developer options. It's experimental but it does work on every app (I think you need to root the note 5 to use any app, I did for my s5 and note 4) it works though I'm using it right now for xda app and hangouts
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No root for note 5

alhadee12 said:
Dual window is multitasking. Not having apps waiting on the background.
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That is called multiwindow. And nexus 6p has it better because it works with every app. Note 5 has better camera and feels more premium. It is a boring device that will never take full advantage of hardware because of ****ty software code that Samsung puts in it.

anglerstock said:
That is called multiwindow. And nexus 6p has it better because it works with every app. Note 5 has better camera and feels more premium. It is a boring device that will never take full advantage of hardware because of ****ty software code that Samsung puts in it.
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6P you can't use two apps at the same time like the Note 5. Send me a screen shot with running two apps.
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Had a at&t note 5 for 3 weeks before getting my nexus 6p and the nexus 6p is more so the right phone for me ....the front facing speakers are great like my old nexus 6 but even better , the software experience on the nexus is more fluid than the note 5 , the note 5 does have a brighter display , the note 5 does have a slightly better camera but both are great! , battery life so far is better on the nexus 6p, never had ram issues with my note 5 so multitasking is about even even besides the dual window option's on the note , you get more storage on the nexus out of the box 25gb usable on the nexus only had around 20gb usable on the note....i don't seem to miss the s pen much nor do I miss wireless charging....but to sum it up both phones are great

anglerstock said:
That is called multiwindow. And nexus 6p has it better because it works with every app. Note 5 has better camera and feels more premium. It is a boring device that will never take full advantage of hardware because of ****ty software code that Samsung puts in it.
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I wouldn't go as far to say all of that. However, it is true Samsung handicaps what can be done by the device. Hardly any useful apps can be used to multitask I just came from the note 4 and I'll tell you that I'd ditch multitasking and all of tw features in a heartbeat for this phone. Plus I don't like the way Samsung is designing their new phones. Hate the metal design time and time again plastic has been the better material, no removable back or SD port. They killed off the main reason why I would even buy a Samsung flagship over the nexus line. And this is someone who has had every note except the 5 and had the s1 and 2.
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I've never felt the note 5 to be premium. I prefer the note 4 over the 5 build quality and the camera is better on the 6p.

It's just my opinion, multi-window is true multitasking. You don't necessarily have to hide one app to use the next one. That's the same thing the iPhone uses.
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Well, since I just sold my Note 5 for the 6P, I guess my answer would be the 6P.
I just got it today, so my experience with the 6P is somewhat limited but here are my thoughts (I'll leave the price difference out of it, but that's obviously a huge factor as well):
The Note 5 is probably the BEST phone on the market right now, period. Features, power, design, it has everything. Everything except being a Nexus and running stock Android. This means the 6P has a noticeably smoother and, in my opinion, better UI. The Exynos CPU is undoubtedly faster. This is most noticeable when launching apps. The Note 5 will definitely beat the 6P there. That said, would you even notice if you didn't have them side by side? Probably not. The Snapdragon 810 is no slouch and nothing feels slow when you're using the phone. So to me, the Note 5 has an overall negligible edge on power when it comes to actual use. As for the multitasking capabilities mentioned above, unless you mean the split screen which usually seemed like little more than a gimmick to me, the multitasking is pretty bad on the Note 5. It has an extra GB of memory, and yet it still constantly kills apps. Hopefully Samsung tweaks that more with future updates because I feel the 6P probably has the advantage in multitasking at the moment.
The Note 5 also has a slightly better screen. They say they are the same panel, but I suspect either Huawei gets the slightly lower quality screens of the two, or Samsung still has some tricks up their sleeve to optimize their own screen, or probably a little of both. That would explain the number of screen complaints on the 6P while the panel is still relatively new to production. Again, assuming you don't get a pink screen like some, the screen still looks every bit as good for the most part. I can't imagine anyone complaining about a good 6P screen. Samsung has a brightness setting called The Face of the Sun which I don't miss forgetting to turn back to adaptive before looking at the phone in the middle of the night. I haven't really used the phone when it was really bright outside yet, so I can't say for sure if I miss the extra brightness there, but again I have no complaints about the 6P.
The camera is also better in the Note 5, but the 6P's is pretty damn good too, and if you care that much, get a real camera and stop trying to take pictures on your phone. That's pretty much the end of that discussion for me. The main reason I got the Note 5 was because Samsung finally designed a nice phone again, but again, the 6P feels equally premium. In fact, while I respected the design of the Note 5 and wanted to like it, I kind of didn't. Something about the feel of it just never felt quite right to me. I still think a glass back on a phone is stupid, just like it was when Apple did it and learned their lesson. I very much like the look and feel of the 6P, especially the Frost version that I have. The back of the Note 5 is too rounded and it makes the already slippery glass back feel like a bar of soap in your hand. Oh, and one last feature that was actually pretty important to me on the Note 5 was the wireless charging. Too bad it doesn't work half the time.
Now, onto the 6P. Like I said, the 6P has more than enough processing power, a more than good enough camera and screen (again assuming a good one), and a fantastic design and feel. Remember that sinking feeling you got when that first 6P pic leaked? It's light years better in person. I really do like the design of this phone. It reminds me of my One which was one of my favorite phones. Being that we are all here on XDA, the advantage of the 6P is that it DOESN'T have the Exynos processor. I had the Note 5 less than a month and was already getting annoyed that I would never be able to have anything but the stock software or small mods on top of it. Touchwiz was incredibly better since I last saw it, but it's still pretty ugly, in particular the notification drawer in the Note 5 really bugged me compared to stock Android. Because of all this, the smoothness of the 6P makes it feel like a faster device during normal use. You'd never know it was a little slower without having them side by side. And of course, there's always the time difference in receiving updates. Sure you'll get Marshmallow on the Note 5, and probably pretty soon. But every update after that will start getting more questionable and probably slower as other phones become their priority.
So in conclusion/tl;dr, they are both at the very top of the list of best phones on the market. The speed differences aren't something you'd ever even know most of the time without directly comparing them, and you'd be forgiven to think the 6P might even be faster. They both top the list in nearly every category. I can't imagine anyone being disappointed in either phone. If you value any of the Samsung specific bits like the stylus, then the Samsung is for you. If you value the ability to modify the software on your phone and receive updates as soon as they are available, the 6P is for you. If you have either, consider yourself lucky to have one of the best phones on the market. I switched because I wanted to be able to use real ROMs and kernels, not just the tease you get with an Exynos device, and I wanted updates ASAP, even as previews. I suspect most people who are here on XDA probably value this as well, which is fairly evident by the fact that a month newer device has WAY more activity on here.

Dude I was scared to do the switch. The 6P MURDERS the note 5 (in my opinion).
Don't be scared if you're on the same boat, or at least try it and if you don't like it, just send it back.

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It's just my opinion, multi-window is true multitasking. You don't necessarily have to hide one app to use the next one. That's the same thing the iPhone uses.
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Added screenshot of multi-window.
Edit: Apparently the device will only take a screenshot of the selected application and not both open windows. Don't have another camera.
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I would like to see it or you can send me the details on how to do it. I've never seen multi-window on a Nexus device.
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But a note 5 is worth $0.96 right????
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I would like to see it or you can send me the details on how to do it. I've never seen multi-window on a Nexus device.
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Never mind just posted the wrong picture. Updated in previous post.

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Never mind just posted the wrong picture. Updated in previous post.
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Is that the 6P? The pic looks uneven, how do you do it because I can't find the function even under the developer settings?
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Never mind just posted the wrong picture. Updated in previous post.
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Are you rooted?
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