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So a long story short, we drove down and bought 2 brand new Nexus S phones.... we did open them to make sure they powered on and stuff but it had that top protective layer on the screen.... so we drive back (6 hour return trip, had lots of fun explaining this to the border guys).
So now, we take off the protective cover... to use the phones, I have at least 4 light scratches on mine screen... I feel sick... call my buddy, the exact same thing... WTF? I would not believe it if I did not see it.... they are not bad enough to warrant another 6 hour drive, but it certainly makes me dislike my new phone a little more and it already hurts the resale value....
Just wondering if anyone else has had this problem? What is best buys return policy? Then again, they might not even believe me and blame me?
I've not had this problem, thankfully. My NS is gorgeous all around. Very happy with it so far.
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Sadly Samsung cheaped out on this phone and decided NOT to include Gorilla Glass. Bad move...I don't understand why manufacturers feel the need to move backwards sometime.
Anyway, Best Buy's return policy is 14 days, no restocking fee. They shouldn't give you any trouble with this particular issue as long as the rest of the phone isn't damaged (i.e. dropped).
Actually I read somewhere in here that if you bought the phone at full price you have 30 with no restocking fee
I see, but again... it is a 6 hour drive round trip and then a fight with the border... hahaha.... it was the second the layer came off I could notice, I am sick about it... because it is an amazing, beautiful phone... and when i could not understand it... it only got worse when my friend said the same thing, 2 strange.
I might call, check stock, talk to a manager and make the drive.... thx all
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Actually I read somewhere in here that if you bought the phone at full price you have 30 with no restocking fee
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This is true for buying at T-Mobile stores. Best Buy (as I was explained on Saturday) has a 14-day for outright and on-contract purchases. Definitely give the store a call to double-check. At least they removed those darn restocking fees. I couldn't believe my ears at first!
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Sadly Samsung cheaped out on this phone and decided NOT to include Gorilla Glass. Bad move...I don't understand why manufacturers feel the need to move backwards sometime.
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Maybe Corning (maker of Gorilla Glass) wasn't able to produce curved gorilla glass like Samsung wanted. That would be my guess.
I've just noticed some small "scratches" on my screen too. They almost look like glue residue, but I wiped my phone clean and they're still there. Maybe it could be the oleophobic coating coming off? Ill try to upload a picture when I get my camera back.
About a week ago my Xoom touchscreen just quit responding. I was using it one night put it on the dock to charge and the next morning..touchscreen unresponsive.
So I sent my Xoom wifi over to Moto to get it repaired. I get it back today and a page right on top of the box had a checkbox that said that my unit has water damage and is unrepairable.
Now a little history, I bought the wifi on the day it came out March 27th at Best Buy. I bought the Invisible Shield along with it. I literally opened the box and put the Invisible Shield on the screen before even turning on the device. I put the Xoom in the gel case that I had from the 3g that I had returned.
Being such an expensive item I have babied this Xoom it literally has not been anywhere where water could have gotten into the unit. I'm attaching a few links so you guys can see the pictures that moto sent me and claimed that it was my unit.
The pictures look like they came from a unit that was abused and probably dipped in water. From the outside of my Xoom it has no damage at all. It has been in its case from day one.
What do you guys think I can do?
(I've been a member of this forum for awhile I just never posted until recently as I usually just browse. So i am unable to put a link up of the pictures yet.)
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About a week ago my Xoom touchscreen just quit responding. I was using it one night put it on the dock to charge and the next morning..touchscreen unresponsive.
So I sent my Xoom wifi over to Moto to get it repaired. I get it back today and a page right on top of the box had a checkbox that said that my unit has water damage and is unrepairable.
Now a little history, I bought the wifi on the day it came out March 27th at Best Buy. I bought the Invisible Shield along with it. I literally opened the box and put the Invisible Shield on the screen before even turning on the device. I put the Xoom in the gel case that I had from the 3g that I had returned.
Being such an expensive item I have babied this Xoom it literally has not been anywhere where water could have gotten into the unit. I'm attaching a few links so you guys can see the pictures that moto sent me and claimed that it was my unit.
The pictures look like they came from a unit that was abused and probably dipped in water. From the outside of my Xoom it has no damage at all. It has been in its case from day one.
What do you guys think I can do?
(I've been a member of this forum for awhile I just never posted until recently as I usually just browse. So i am unable to put a link up of the pictures yet.)
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I suppose it is possible that the liquid solution used to apply the skin somehow seeped down into the display along the edges. I really don't know what your options are man but I will say this... none of our units came in a sealed box so how are we to know that the unit we bought and paid for shipped from the manufacturer unused? Thats grounds for some sort of legal person to figure out in my opinion.
Call them and be very friendly, but if someone won't help you, get a manager. If the manager won't help, ask for their supervisor (and so on). Don't be rude, but make sure you don't let them off the phone unless they hang up on you. Keep saying: That isn't my xoom. You must have mixed something up.
Good luck!
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Keep saying: That isn't my xoom. You must have mixed something up.
Good luck!
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For some reason that reminded me of the Shaggy song , "It wasn't me".
The Shaggy Defense
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For some reason that reminded me of the Shaggy song , "It wasn't me".
The Shaggy Defense
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Lmao
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Email me your liquid damage pictures please. iammodo( at) gmail I am rather expert in these matters.
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Easy option. I've done this with my ipad and many phones if I didn't have time to fix it myself. You tell them only problem I had was the touchscreen but the night b4 it was heating up and that can cause moisture build up and that can change the indicator showing its wet. Now if they say that it looks like something clearly spilled then maybe some1 might've and hid the truth from u. Good luck!
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Ohh also the sun can damage it. Was it near the window where the sun light was hitting it? Ive repaired countless things for my customers and sometimes it shows wet indicator when it really was never dropped in or spilled on. Let me know. If anything give me ur serial number n all n ill call for u.
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Did you use water applying the screen protector?
I'll never understand why people use screen protectors on any phone/tablet devices these days. They all have glass screens.
Water could have gotten in there during installation and very slowly corroded the components.
Thanks for the tips.. I ended up taking the xoom back to best buy as a last resort ..
After the geek squad guy at the counter tried to give me the typical run around I asked to speak to a manager.. (nicely of course) After going back and forth for a bit they decided to give me a new xoom!!
I definitely didn't expect that but I will tell you best buy earned my loyalty just from that one thing.
As for the previous xoom the only thing I did was put the invisible shield on it withtl that solution they give you.. that's the only way I can imagine it could've gotten water damage..
As for moto I will tell you in the future I will most likely not purchase one of their products as they were of no help and did everything they could to get me off the phone when I called to discuss their water damage claim..
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Did you use water applying the screen protector?
I'll never understand why people use screen protectors on any phone/tablet devices these days. They all have glass screens.
Water could have gotten in there during installation and very slowly corroded the components.
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I understand your statements about water and understand your corrosion theory...however, I'm not sure I understand your logic about not using a screen protector. Many people have reported that even Gorilla Glass scratches depending on the circumstances.
I'm not trying to sound condescending, so I hope this is not taken that way. I'm interested in your rationale though...convince me why I don't need a screen protector...I'll gladly like the chance to save $20-$30 I spend on screen protectors.
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I understand your statements about water and understand your corrosion theory...however, I'm not sure I understand your logic about not using a screen protector. Many people have reported that even Gorilla Glass scratches depending on the circumstances.
I'm not trying to sound condescending, so I hope this is not taken that way. I'm interested in your rationale though...convince me why I don't need a screen protector...I'll gladly like the chance to save $20-$30 I spend on screen protectors.
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I have a Droid Incredible that is one year old. No screen protector. It "travels " in my pocket, and gets a lot of use every day. Not one scratch or mark of any kind on the screen.
So, no screen protector on my Xoom either. And there are no scratches on it's screen although it's only 7 weeks old.
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Now don't listen to Pandora on your new XOOM while taking a shower. The steam will show water damage very very quickly.
wiesman2613 said:
Thanks for the tips.. I ended up taking the xoom back to best buy as a last resort ..
After the geek squad guy at the counter tried to give me the typical run around I asked to speak to a manager.. (nicely of course) After going back and forth for a bit they decided to give me a new xoom!!
I definitely didn't expect that but I will tell you best buy earned my loyalty just from that one thing.
As for the previous xoom the only thing I did was put the invisible shield on it withtl that solution they give you.. that's the only way I can imagine it could've gotten water damage..
As for moto I will tell you in the future I will most likely not purchase one of their products as they were of no help and did everything they could to get me off the phone when I called to discuss their water damage claim..
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Yeah they don't repair tablets. That's why their "protection" plans cost more than they normally would. They just replace the entire thing. Did you ever register the zagg shield on their site? Since it has a lifetime warranty you should be able to get a replacement for that too. Although, I think you have to send in the old one once you remove it.
Did you remove it before returning your old one?
Bummer about your experience man, glad it worked out for ya.
And for the others talking about not getting a screen protector... i was/am a huge hater of them, never had one on my evo and it lives in my pocket with keys and other junk, it has never scratched, so needless to say i never wanted one on my Xoom either, but the fingerprints and glare were too much so i bit the bullet and even though it took a while to get used to i don't regret it one bit
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Im all about the screen protector. Not to stop the scratches so much, but I have the anti grease sheilds on all my stuff. I hate fingerprints!!1 I wish I could get them big enough to put on the back windows of my cars to keeps the kids little finger prints off the glass
BTW...glad to hear you got a new Xoom.
Carphone warehouse over in the uk have a nice little notebook padded cover that i bought for my xoom with a zip on it, although its loose, the protection works a treat and in my bag too, protects it from scratches etc, etc,
never been a huge fan of protective screens, never been able to get them on without there being some sort of problem.
My advice on this one for water damage;
- "Apple "Claimed" in the UK that iphone useres had decided to dip their phones into glasses of water, glasses of water which infact were no existant, they were taken to Watchdog, (UK BBC show) and were forced to change their process for evaluating water damage. Turns out people sweating were setting of the water damage indicators due to them being on the charging port XD"
Maybe pester Motorola.
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I have a Droid Incredible that is one year old. No screen protector. It "travels " in my pocket, and gets a lot of use every day. Not one scratch or mark of any kind on the screen.
So, no screen protector on my Xoom either. And there are no scratches on it's screen although it's only 7 weeks old.
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The thing is, your Dinc has never been dropped. Do you have a case for it btw? Cases create a gap between the screen and the ground so that is to prevent cracked screens. On the other hands, screen protectors serve many purposes, scratches, glare, fingerprint.....so it is a very good thing to have. I believe it is money well spent.
Though, some don't read the instruction and spray the water on the screen (not pointing finger at you op ) and that's when it gets damaged. Just spray the screen protector itself is safe enough. But seriously, I respect your belief, I am still considering screen protectors are good at what they do.
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Good that the OP got redress without too much hassle.
As a point of reference for future issues involving items of "substantial" value, always take pics (with date stamps) before sending stuff in to RMA. Even though it wouldn't be incontrovertible proof, it's a sign of due diligence that can be used in small claims court.
Which is the logical next step, assuming other efforts at redress fail, and assuming you feel strongly enough to take action. People usually get scared off when the word "legal" is involved, but with some homework, you can be competent in a small-claims case.
And since we're on the Internet, the first step, of course, is to look up the FAQs for small claims suit in your locality. Your govt is your friend (if you would bother to look). Here is the FAQ for Calif, USA.
http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/selfhelp/smallclaims/
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The thing is, your Dinc has never been dropped. Do you have a case for it btw? Cases create a gap between the screen and the ground so that is to prevent cracked screens. On the other hands, screen protectors serve many purposes, scratches, glare, fingerprint.....so it is a very good thing to have. I believe it is money well spent.
Though, some don't read the instruction and spray the water on the screen (not pointing finger at you op ) and that's when it gets damaged. Just spray the screen protector itself is safe enough. But seriously, I respect your belief, I am still considering screen protectors are good at what they do.
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No case for my DINC. And I have dropped it several times, hard enough for the back to come off, and the battery to come out (talk about a forced reboot!). I really am not convinced of the value of screen protecrors. But it's an individual decision, of course.
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Hello All,
Took my S3 out of my pocket today and noticed that the screen has a crack all the way from the bottom left corner to the home button (picture attached). I have had my S3 for about two weeks now and am really disappointed with the quality of the product. I always keep the screen facing inwards towards my leg so am really at a loss as to how I managed to crack it.
I bought the phone from Amazon UK and am wondering if I can get a replacement stating manufacturing defect or should I contact Samsung directly.
Any ideas?
TIA.
Ouch feel sorry for you mate. No insurance I take it?
If you can prove it was a defect you have a good leg to stand on. They might realize if they can't find and marks or impact points. Good Luck as you will need it..
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You can always try to get it replaced but I think the chance will be small they will replace the phone as it is cracked, they will definitely blame it on force from outside. Are there more phones cracked this easily as you described it that you are aware of?
Sorry to hear you cracked the screen, imo the phone is quite strong, mine dropped by accident from three feet high without any damage. But that doesn't get you anywhere, I know that...
Now I look at the cracked screen it looks like something pressured the left side of the home button strongly.
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Sometimes this just seems to happen. I've only seen one other person who had this happen with a Galaxy S3, but I've heard stories like this since the Nexus One came out.
I'm guessing some devices just happen to have structural integrity problems with their glass, I don't really know if much can be done because of how extremely rare it is.
You should have got insurance or been.more careful. It is **** when this happens buddy.
They (Samsung/amazon) will not exchange it for any reason as it will be seen as damaged caused in your possession and that when it was sold there were no cracks or anything.
I work for a phone retailer and deal with this kind of thing at least once a week.
Try protect your bubble or something like that , then make a claim.
Hope you get it sorted.
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It looks like the glass underneath the home button is not very thick only a few mm, and looks to be the weakest point on the phone screen, see how it`s broken on the bottom left corner of the home button.
John.
Nope, no insurance unfortunately. Forgot to mention that the phone was protected by a gel tpu case...
Really bummed!
wow that sucks... feel your pain.. every time I read a post like this, the more afraid I am of getting this phone..
I've sent stuff back to Amazon within the 30 days they have for returns that were broken. Just stated return under poor quality, faulty and they just asked if I wanted another or a refund. Not £500, under a ton. But they are pretty good with returns.
Don't bother with Samsung.. they are a waste of time. Contact Amazon.
Funny thing is I`ve been not only reading, but also hearing lots of reports about the fragility of the S3. Bad thing is that I got mine last week. I am being extra careful with it.
I wonder if Samsung realizes they have delivered such a fragile product.
I've also heard that. But here's some sort of consolidation I have had 4 people come back into my shop with cracked screens on their HTC one x's, some claiming it just happened , others that they pressed hard on the screen etc. (Regardless how it happened the screen is still cracked)
Some had insurance (so only insurance excess to pay) and the others who didn't, HTC only charged them 79.99 for either a replacement phone or the screen fixed. ( which in my experience in a new £500 expensive smart phone is amazing)
So there you have it. **** happens. No phone is perfect and mistakes happen.
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Thank you all for your replies.
I contacted Amazon today and they were quite open to doing a refund/replacement. I went for a replacement as I am quite happy with the phone overall. Glad I bought the phone through Amazon.
Will most definitely get insurance on this puppy second time around!
Great news man. You are one lucky fella.
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the screen is still working i take it... no reason why you couldnt still have taken insurance out and just claimed in a few weeks? but hey ho... good news amazon replacing for free i suppose:good:
I too would do an Amazon return/exchange. You can do it through their site and never even have to talk to someone. I think you'll be fine as it doesn't look like it was dropped.
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the screen is still working i take it... no reason why you couldnt still have taken insurance out and just claimed in a few weeks? but hey ho... good news amazon replacing for free i suppose:good:
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If Amazon did not offer the replacement, I would have gone the Insurance route.
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I too would do an Amazon return/exchange. You can do it through their site and never even have to talk to someone. I think you'll be fine as it doesn't look like it was dropped.
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I did not drop the phone thankfully. And it was not like I was wearing tight skinny jeans or sumthin, the phone had plenty of room to breathe in the pocket but somehow I still managed to crack the screen. I have had a Nexus One for 3 years and I was able to keep that crack free without a problem. I understand that it is one of those things but I am not feeling the quality love from Samsung on this one.
maybe it was a bump from human traffic etc etc that you might not have noticed?
since you already said your pocket has lots of breathing room, the only time that pocket is going to be tight is when you're sitting down. i don't think the pressure from that would be enough.
Gorilla glass or not it looks like the GS 3 has extremely fragile glass on the front. I have dropped both my nexus one and my sensational xl a couple of times without problem. Neither of those devices had gorilla glass! Also several users in my country even reported cracks on the plastic back cover. This comes as a shock considering the first 2 galaxy s devices are well known for their toughness. why this sudden regression in durability?
Just a postive side, i have nothing but great things to say about the make of the phone.
I, though it sucks to say....have dropped my sexy Gs3 6 times already(this is a first for anyone phone i have owned) the silver bumper is completely ate up, looks like i dragged the edges of the phone the concrete ALOT...lol
but the Glass after all six drops.....FLAWLESS, no scratches no cracks. and all six were from waist up. lucky or not, i am impressed to say the least.
Case comes in Saturday....slipped off my lap getting out of car and this happened.
OMG. T.T I'm sooooo sorry. Yeah, this is the exact reason I bought cases before getting my phone. I can relate to having to wait to get a case, as that's what happened with both my S3 and S6. Was paranoid AF that I'd drop the phone and damage it.
Got lucky that nothing happened before I got the cases, though in the case of my S6, the guy I bought it from included one, which he didn't mention that he'd include one, so that was a nice surprise when I got the phone. But, since then, I definitely made sure I was prepared so I'd have something Day 1 of getting my S8+.
Is there anything you can do about it or... do you just have to live with a broken back?
Thanks. I'm going to switch out the back glass this weekend hopefully. Can't do anything about the scuffs on the plastic, but better than nothing
True, true. Until then, just be careful that you don't cut yourself on the glass. Just curious, how high was the drop? Crazy that it cracked so easily. Then again... it IS glass...
Literally 2.5 feet. Im kinda dissapointed:/
I already have two cases and a screen protector, i pick up my phone tomorrow.
Sorry this happened to you
it was my own carelessness not paying attention and lack of getting a case in time... altho i honestly didnt think id recieve the phone on the 19th either.
That's why I was using my s5 outdoor till I get my spigen case :crying: I'm sorry for your loss :crying:
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it was my own carelessness not paying attention and lack of getting a case in time... altho i honestly didnt think id recieve the phone on the 19th either.
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Know how it feels my s7 Edge has a cracked back even with the uag case on it
how can one be this careless , ouch
Omg I want to cry for you, I know how this happened when I dropped my note 5 a few weeks after getting it! The phone doesn't feel the same after
The drops that hit the corners are often killers.
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Literally 2.5 feet. Im kinda dissapointed:/
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... That's not even waist height. :/ Expected a corner dent or whatnot on the metal frame, buttttt... didn't think the glass would break at such a low height.
Who you buy it through?
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That corner damage looks worse than any of the drop test videos.
https://youtu.be/ZsaFc59FY6w?t=125
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how can one be this careless , ouch
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how can one be this rude, is the better question!
No need to pour salt in the wound with insults.
You put the phone on your lap in your car? You kind of deserve it. It's an expensive phone, you should have been way more careful with it, especially without a case.
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You put the phone on your lap in your car? You kind of deserve it. It's an expensive phone, you should have been way more careful with it, especially without a case.
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I've done this multiple times. It's not hard.
I had a few slips yesterday so have ordered a case that was delivered this morning!
I was going to leave it a few weeks but came to close to amazing it. I even left it I'm the house where I went out to do some . Even errands.
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Rule nunber 1. NEVER EVER EVER put a phone on your lap when in a car.
Im sorry that happen to your phone that sucks.
My wife drop her note 7 (second recall device) 10mins after walking out the store. Only crack the bad. I did a claim for it paid the $175 got a new one the next day and then 3 days later oh note 7 recalled again.
But me myself i like to have cases and screen protectors day one
So here is the situation. My PH-1, defying logic, has a cracked screen despite me having a case and a screen protector on it. It started out as a hairline crack at the top of the screen but also with a fair amount of corner damage. What doesn't make any sense is that before I purchased the case and screen protector the phone survived quite a few drops without a scratch. Yesterday I dropped it again, on its back, and upon turning the phone over know it is really shattered. Still works but it is in rough shape.
I scored the phone on the Sprint deal at 145 plus the camera so I can't really complain if I have to spend another 199 to have a new phone. The problem is, I don't want to spend another 199 if the same thing is going to happen again. I have never had a phone crack with both a case and a screen protector installed before. That being said, the screen protector was a poor fit and did not cover the corners at all. It almost seems as if the case had a negative effect which is also very odd. No damage before installing the case.
Just wondering if this is a rare occasion or if it is common.
I really like the phone and I want the company to succeed. But if they are this fragile I would probably pick up an LG or an HTC.
I am on Verizon so a One Plus isn't an option.
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So here is the situation. My PH-1, defying logic, has a cracked screen despite me having a case and a screen protector on it. It started out as a hairline crack at the top of the screen but also with a fair amount of corner damage. What doesn't make any sense is that before I purchased the case and screen protector the phone survived quite a few drops without a scratch. Yesterday I dropped it again, on its back, and upon turning the phone over know it is really shattered. Still works but it is in rough shape.
I scored the phone on the Sprint deal at 145 plus the camera so I can't really complain if I have to spend another 199 to have a new phone. The problem is, I don't want to spend another 199 if the same thing is going to happen again. I have never had a phone crack with both a case and a screen protector installed before. That being said, the screen protector was a poor fit and did not cover the corners at all. It almost seems as if the case had a negative effect which is also very odd. No damage before installing the case.
Just wondering if this is a rare occasion or if it is common.
I really like the phone and I want the company to succeed. But if they are this fragile I would probably pick up an LG or an HTC.
I am on Verizon so a One Plus isn't an option.
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I think what happened to you is a one off. You should go buy a lotto ticket maybe? On the bright side, you'd still be paying less than what I paid for 1 PH-1 with the 360 cam, used. I bought my combo from swappa in mint condition for $390. You're only at $344, and you got 2 phones Granted one bit the dust. But if I were you, I'd get the replacement. I'm not sure there is a better phone out yet, imo. Only thing to make this phone better on gen 2 would be to get rid of the black bar at the bottom so it is completely bezeless, and to up the IP rating to 68 at LEAST 67. Motorized selfie cam? No notch? That would be nice. I hardly ever use the selfie cam anyway. Just my $0.02. If mine broke, I'd be buying another one
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I think what happened to you is a one off. You should go buy a lotto ticket maybe? On the bright side, you'd still be paying less than what I paid for 1 PH-1 with the 360 cam, used. I bought my combo from swappa in mint condition for $390. You're only at $344, and you got 2 phones Granted one bit the dust. But if I were you, I'd get the replacement. I'm not sure there is a better phone out yet, imo. Only thing to make this phone better on gen 2 would be to get rid of the black bar at the bottom so it is completely bezeless, and to up the IP rating to 68 at LEAST 67. Motorized selfie cam? No notch? That would be nice. I hardly ever use the selfie cam anyway. Just my $0.02. If mine broke, I'd be buying another one
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That's kind of what I was thinking. Just hoping to NOT see other reports of similar breakage.
Thanks for the .02
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That's kind of what I was thinking. Just hoping to NOT see other reports of similar breakage.
Thanks for the .02
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I literally just put my broken one in the mailbox to go back to Essential (Asurion is actually the insurance claim handling company). Mailman hasn't even picked it up yet. I cloned everything into the new replacement last night w/TWRP. So, there was virtually no on-screen setup (security/fingerprints had to be redone), and I'm back up and running as if my phone was simply repaired. That's something that's just not possible with a different phone.
Essential was quick about responding. They take 1 biz day to process and the replacement is sent FedEx Standard overnight.
I am overall disappointed with the fragility of the phone as its durability was a major selling point for me. Essential still has that PH-1 bouncing and tumbling on concrete on their homepage. But, right now there is not another phone with the dimensions, design quality, and components that can compare to this. Now, if I broke another one, I probably would not do it again, unless the price was at least half.
I am a little concerned about your situation being that you had screen protection and a case. But if I were you, I would still do the replacement, and try completely different protective devices. Especially since you got such a deal on the first one, I think it would be a no-brainer for me. I paid $350 for mine w/no 360 cam, and I still did the replacement.
I mean, even knowing this outcome, (I'm $550 in at this point) I still don't think I would have went for the OnePlus 5T. I really appreciate the form factor of this phone, and I plan to baby this replacement.
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I literally just put my broken one in the mailbox to go back to Essential (Asurion is actually the insurance claim handling company). Mailman hasn't even picked it up yet. I cloned everything into the new replacement last night w/TWRP. So, there was virtually no on-screen setup (security/fingerprints had to be redone), and I'm back up and running as if my phone was simply repaired. That's something that's just not possible with a different phone.
Essential was quick about responding. They take 1 biz day to process and the replacement is sent FedEx Standard overnight.
I am overall disappointed with the fragility of the phone as its durability was a major selling point for me. Essential still has that PH-1 bouncing and tumbling on concrete on their homepage. But, right now there is not another phone with the dimensions, design quality, and components that can compare to this. Now, if I broke another one, I probably would not do it again, unless the price was at least half.
I am a little concerned about your situation being that you had screen protection and a case. But if I were you, I would still do the replacement, and try completely different protective devices. Especially since you got such a deal on the first one, I think it would be a no-brainer for me. I paid $350 for mine w/no 360 cam, and I still did the replacement.
I mean, even knowing this outcome, (I'm $550 in at this point) I still don't think I would have went for the OnePlus 5T. I really appreciate the form factor of this phone, and I plan to baby this replacement.
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Yeah, I am addicted to the form factor after having the hand stretching, ache causing Nexus 6. And the fingerprint scanner for unlocking and notifications. What caused your breakage? Did you have a case and/or screen protector?
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Yeah, I am addicted to the form factor after having the hand stretching, ache causing Nexus 6. And the fingerprint scanner for unlocking and notifications. What caused your breakage? Did you have a case and/or screen protector?
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Mine fell from my back pocket onto concrete, about 1.5 ft drop. I had a case.... in my backpack . It's just too pretty a phone to want to case it much. But, that's all over for me now.
GospelNerd said:
Mine fell from my back pocket onto concrete, about 1.5 ft drop. I had a case.... in my backpack . It's just too pretty a phone to want to case it much. But, that's all over for me now.
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You cracked yours?
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Yep I did. I bet if I could have watched it happen in slow motion, it would have looked just like the video on the Essential homepage, except...crack!
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So here is the situation. My PH-1, defying logic, has a cracked screen despite me having a case and a screen protector on it. It started out as a hairline crack at the top of the screen but also with a fair amount of corner damage. What doesn't make any sense is that before I purchased the case and screen protector the phone survived quite a few drops without a scratch. Yesterday I dropped it again, on its back, and upon turning the phone over know it is really shattered. Still works but it is in rough shape.
I scored the phone on the Sprint deal at 145 plus the camera so I can't really complain if I have to spend another 199 to have a new phone. The problem is, I don't want to spend another 199 if the same thing is going to happen again. I have never had a phone crack with both a case and a screen protector installed before. That being said, the screen protector was a poor fit and did not cover the corners at all. It almost seems as if the case had a negative effect which is also very odd. No damage before installing the case.
Just wondering if this is a rare occasion or if it is common.
I really like the phone and I want the company to succeed. But if they are this fragile I would probably pick up an LG or an HTC.
I am on Verizon so a One Plus isn't an option.
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I try not to drop fragile electronic devices.
On the other hand I can be a dolt so I always get insurance.
I got a SquareTrade coverage on this phone right after I got it.
It was $140 for three years with a $75 deductible for repairs.
So I suggest getting a SquareTrade warranty on the next one.
It also adds value when you want to sell it.
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I got a SquareTrade coverage on this phone right after I got it. It was $140 for three years with a $75 deductible for repairs. So I suggest getting a SquareTrade warranty on the next one.
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Since the 'out-of-warranty' replacement is $199, unless you think you might go through more than one replacement, neither the extended warranty from Essential, or the price you gave for SquareTrade would be worth it. That's why I never sign up for them. I figure if I manage to break my device, the repair or replacement fee is going to be either my incentive to be extra careful from then til the next device, or impetus to sell it and try something else.
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despite me having a case and a screen protector on it.
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@chiadrum Mind letting us know which make/models of case and screen protector you had on it when this happened?
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Since the 'out-of-warranty' replacement is $199, unless you think you might go through more than one replacement, neither the extended warranty from Essential, or the price you gave for SquareTrade would be worth it. That's why I never sign up for them. I figure if I manage to break my device, the repair or replacement fee is going to be either my incentive to be extra careful from then til the next device, or impetus to sell it and try something else.
@chiadrum Mind letting us know which make/models of case and screen protector you had on it when this happened?
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Actually, $140+$75 = $215 which is a wash if you have one incident at $200.
It also covers any other issue for three years, so YMMV.
But even a bricked device would be covered.
One might argue that insurance is never worth it. you can only make the argument until the first time you drop and break your device, have a battery issue, brick or anything else.
I don't typically break or lose my phones, but there is a first time for everything.
YMMV
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Actually, $140+$75 = $215 which is a wash if you have one incident at $200.
It also covers any other issue for three years, so YMMV.
But even a bricked device would be covered.
One might argue that insurance is never worth it. you can only make the argument until the first time you drop and break your device, have a battery issue, brick or anything else.
I don't typically break or lose my phones, but there is a first time for everything.
YMMV
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You have to pay the initial$140 either way, so it's $75 vs $200
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You have to pay the initial$140 either way, so it's $75 vs $200
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Unless there is a deductable.
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Do it
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Since the 'out-of-warranty' replacement is $199, unless you think you might go through more than one replacement, neither the extended warranty from Essential, or the price you gave for SquareTrade would be worth it. That's why I never sign up for them. I figure if I manage to break my device, the repair or replacement fee is going to be either my incentive to be extra careful from then til the next device, or impetus to sell it and try something else.
@chiadrum Mind letting us know which make/models of case and screen protector you had on it when this happened?
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Case was the Tudia without the notch for the 360 cam, so a full coverage case in other words. Fits pretty snug and covers the edges for sure. Screen protectors were mocolo. Screen protector can be placed on the phone even with the case on, that is how much screen is still exposed even with the protector. Also, the phone was not nearly as responsive to touch with that protector on. Really surprised that the case didn't do the trick with the corner covered. The corner is where the downfall began.
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It almost seems as if the case had a negative effect which is also very odd.
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Can you elaborate on this statement in the OP? Got any pics?
I got some of those edge-only adhesive screen protectors with the black borders, which leaves a tiny amount of screen glass exposed (barely 1mm on top [which allows for the speaker opening], and on bottom, and probably 0.5mm on either side). It appears that even with that gap, only the screen protector or the plastic around the screen could make initial contact on a fall. But, my Incipio clear case doesn't fit without catching the edges of the protector and audibly making them peel up (not necessarily visibly). So it's not wearing a case at the moment.
I have a Tudia Lula 2.0 case coming (the one with the 360 cam cutout), so your incident is a little concerning.
I don't care about the durability of a case or screen protector as long as they do their job when it matters, and that is to prevent the phone itself from sustaining damage. But it's for naught if they don't prevent, or worse even cause damage.
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Can you elaborate on this statement in the OP? Got any pics?
I got some of those edge-only adhesive screen protectors with the black borders, which leaves a tiny amount of screen glass exposed (barely 1mm on top [which allows for the speaker opening], and on bottom, and probably 0.5mm on either side). It appears that even with that gap, only the screen protector or the plastic around the screen could make initial contact on a fall. But, my Incipio clear case doesn't fit without catching the edges of the protector and audibly making them peel up (not necessarily visibly). So it's not wearing a case at the moment.
I have a Tudia Lula 2.0 case coming (the one with the 360 cam cutout), so your incident is a little concerning.
I don't care about the durability of a case or screen protector as long as they do their job when it matters, and that is to prevent the phone itself from sustaining damage. But it's for naught if they don't prevent, or worse even cause damage.
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I don't think the Essential is any more or less fragile than other phones.
My daughter dropped her S9 in a case with a green protector.
$149 to replaced the device.
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I don't think the Essential is any more or less fragile than other phones.
My daughter dropped her S9 in a case with a green protector.
$149 to replaced the device.
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I think phones with an edge to edge screen are way more susceptible to damage from a drop than phones with bezels or whatever you call them on all 4 sides. Unless you get a bulky case with raised edges that completely obliterates the beautiful design of the phone a case will probably provide little to no protection in a drop. The same is true of a screen protector because it provides zero protection for the edges of the glass.
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I think phones with an edge to edge screen are way more susceptible to damage from a drop than phones with bezels or whatever you call them on all 4 sides. Unless you get a bulky case with raised edges that completely obliterates the beautiful design of the phone a case will probably provide little to no protection in a drop. The same is true of a screen protector because it provides zero protection for the edges of the glass.
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Fair point. I always said screw design,give me a tank.I did pull the trigger on the replacement.Got it in a day.Signed up for OTA 8.1 and had it in a couple of hours.Now I just have to baby this thing.And this one is fully unlocked.My original was a Sprint variant and it was bugging out when I pulled the SIM and I could never have used it on vacation overseas.
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Can you elaborate on this statement in the OP? Got any pics?
I got some of those edge-only adhesive screen protectors with the black borders, which leaves a tiny amount of screen glass exposed (barely 1mm on top [which allows for the speaker opening], and on bottom, and probably 0.5mm on either side). It appears that even with that gap, only the screen protector or the plastic around the screen could make initial contact on a fall. But, my Incipio clear case doesn't fit without catching the edges of the protector and audibly making them peel up (not necessarily visibly). So it's not wearing a case at the moment.
I have a Tudia Lula 2.0 case coming (the one with the 360 cam cutout), so your incident is a little concerning.
I don't care about the durability of a case or screen protector as long as they do their job when it matters, and that is to prevent the phone itself from sustaining damage. But it's for naught if they don't prevent, or worse even cause damage.
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Sorry just seeing this now.Cant find a pic but there was a gash on the corner and a crack across the top.Then one last drop and it was a spiderweb.
Hey Guys,
I am from Dubai, United Arab Emirates. I dropped my 3 month old Essential Phone on concrete floor face down and the display is completely smashed in one corner and has cracks all over the screen. Mine broke because I had neither the case nor any screen protector on the phone.
I am planning for the 199$ replacement but heard from them that its a refurbished device. Just want to know whether the refurbished replacement device is void and free of any scratches/ dents or any other physical defects on the body of the phone. And also the overall quality of the phone is good before I take this plunge.
Thanks,
Zulfiqar