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Identify hardware inside Magician

Hello all,
I opened the Magician to repair the phone speaker, but also painting the housing. As I carefully document the parts I found one piece of hardware that draw my attention. I have a clue what it might be, but would like to share it, so maybe you know what it might be.
First some pictures
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Location of the unknown hardware. When you hold your magician face up (screen up) it's under the red phone button.
piece we're talking about.
Where the 2 contact point on the unknown hardware connect to. Just like the phone speaker it kind of floats, so no wires..
As I watched carefully I noticed the shape of a half cylinder. By moving your PDA vertically/horizontally the heavy side moves towards where gravity is, meaning it always points down. (see picture 2)
I think it's some kind of hardware that suppose to, if a software supports it, turn your PDA display horizontal or vertical when you turn it. Something like iPhone demonstrated or even closer Wizard. Wizard's screen automatically goes in horizontal mode when the keypad is sliced out.
If this unknown hardware is what I think it is, why isn't used then? It would be a very nice feature
What do you think it is?

its your vibration motor.
ie: when you have 'vibrate' enabled, and your phone rings, that little motor spins like crazy and the uneven shape of the weight creats the vibration.

Yes, Definately that is the vibration motor.

Yeah... I forget Magician was a phone too... Since I don't use the phone I lost focus
Anyway... It would be great if it could have the ability to turn the screen auto. My guess would be that if that small motor could send it's position back to a chip it should be possible for software (OS for example) to act. (dual function)

I'm trying to fix my vibrator and your pics would help but the links no longer work.
Can you please relink or rehost them or send them to me?

hardware button problem; button 2

the internet explorer iconed button, on the top left hand corner; Button 2
is kinda playing up
It seems it is almost permanently pressed, though it doesn't seem stuck, when it is enabled the shortcut program or function continues to run; e.g. pie keeps starting (I've tried changing the shortcut and there's the same effect on any function I set to the button)
I've done a hard-reset, changed rom, but it persists, so its definitely a hardware fault. The main problem with it is, even if I minimize PIE for example, the hardware buttons remain unusable unless i unassign everything from that button.
I've tried cleaning where i can etc. but to no avail
its not a huge problem, heck it doesn't really matter if I need to keep that button without function, its just one of those little annoying and niggly problems, and maybe someone else has had the same and found a solution
if not its ok, and thank for reading

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The above picture shows the two micro-switches (Silver blocks with round black protrusions). It would be well nigh impossible to dismantle these - replacement may be possible, though I suspect you would only be able to buy the board complete.
You say you have tried cleaning. Do you mean externally or internally. It may be possible that the micro switch is not releasing due to a detritus build up internally or some misalignment of the pasic facia switch cover. The micr-switches even when pressed via the facia plastic should give a discernable soft click when pressed.
Mike

firstly thank you very much, for all your effor, its well appreciated my friend.
I've tried cleaning externally only and yes it probably is a buildup of dirt internally, but I don't think I'll be dismantling the device as its only a small proble, and once I've removed the assigned function from that button its not problematic. But if it gets worse, starts again etc. I'll have to, so thanks very much.
Thank you.

No probs. Might just start working again by itself if the blockage gets dislodged.
Mike

Not so dead keyboard

I was at a party the other night and someone dripped water off the side of a beer can into my Hermes. It landed on the keyboard, I have inspected the board and cant see anything amiss (IE, it looks good)
but the keys behave erratically.
Heres a list of funky keys.
The left softkey presses the OK key.
The right softkey does the specified function twice so if its a menu it will appear then dissapear.
The "o" key types an "o" then presses the left arrow key(as in to go left a character)
The Windows key presses the right softkey with the same effect as the softkey.
The left arrow does the same as the "o" key.
The down arrow presses the "p" key and the down arrow so if its autocomplete
it will do it with a word beginning with "p".
The right arrow presses the return key.
Whats the best thing to do now?
I have checked all the connections and all seems OK
I dont really want to pull the white backing off the keydomes.
Anyone had any luck with keyboard repair?
Someome please show me the light as Im running out of things to think of
All the best and thanks in advance.
Mark
//Edit
Im running Schaps WM6.1 ROM
Second time I have ran it, went from Schaps to S64 WM 6.1 then back to Schaps ROM
Didnt have issues the first time but I have issues now,
I would like for someone to clarify for me if this is software or hardware?

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Well i agree that peeling off the backing is a tricky business. You could trycleaning off the surface with pure slcohol or distilled water but the danger is that it may cause any contamination to seep in even further. You could try to identify any spots where penetration under the white layer has occurred and particularly any of the exposed contact areas (not covered by the white layer and clean those areas.
Otherwise it would be a case of removing the white layer:
Mike

Thanks for the prompt reply, just about to go shopping, will try this later and post the results
Thankyou Mike
Mark

[CLOSED/G2] Soft Touch Keys are all different!

Anybody else notice that on the soft touch keys, the ones at the bottom of the screen on the g2, the home and the back keys are swapped places from a N1...Just thought I would point that out! Sorry I have a Nexus one and was surprised....but now after checking out all the other phones all of them have different layouts, even the droid x, droid incredible and the droid are all different layouts!!
Take a look for yourself....
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It would probably take me quite some time to get used to that from my nexus...i think this is an odd thing to do personally, but it does match the g1 good

Similar positioning to the G1. The keys on the G1 from left to right are [Call] [Home] [Menu] [Back] [End]. I'm not so happy that those are soft keys, and Call and End are no where to be found.

Trust me, doesnt take that long. Change android phones thrice, all with different combinations.
Haha, theres what, 4(square) = 16 possible combinations and I guess manufacturers are out to use them all!
TBH, I much prefer this to Windows Pho 7's three button combination. SOme of those designs look a world of tacky.

Yeah this is current line up of almost all newer android phones. The two softkeys next to the app drawer are best used for call button and you can end call the call directly from notification bar no matter your location on the screen. It takes some getting used to (my current phone, the MTS is just like this in terms of set up) but is just as comfortable after a while.

keys are just like the mytouch also. my search button also pulls up quick response

ozy944 said:
Trust me, doesnt take that long. Change android phones thrice, all with different combinations.
Haha, theres what, 4(square) = 16 possible combinations and I guess manufacturers are out to use them all!
TBH, I much prefer this to Windows Pho 7's three button combination. SOme of those designs look a world of tacky.
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Just to be pedantic, it's not 4^2, but rather 4!, or 24, combinations of four buttons in four possible spaces.

I stand corrected . Should freshen up my probability and stats!

I do infact miss the G1 Keyboard layout, so far I enjoyed a dedicated button for numbers. So far I havent seen it and many people complained about it, oh well. I cant wait for this phone to come out just to root this.

its super annoying! but after a day or 2 you will get used to it; i have atleast..

it seems a lil out of place but can tell till i get the phone and mess with it.
but couldnt the buttons also be remapped with software then re icon with a skin/screen cover

any 3 finger salute reboot for hd2?

is there any way to 3 finger salute hd2? so you dont have to pull battery when os is freezing
reson is i use otterbox defender, and softreset button or pull battery when os freezing is a really tedious and tiring process
help please, maybe there is any hidden hardbutton combination to softreset?

or maybe anyone could make or mod it?

This is the only solution I've found:
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Cool! Is there any special reason for such a huge hole? It just seems to me that a 1mm hole should be sufficient.
By the way, I've also made two 1mm holes in the otter box defender's left bottom plastic stud (the mic opening is in the right one) - they hold a lanyard perfectly (will make an image and post in a new thread soon).

If you are using android press the volume up+down+power button

Right, but don't try that with WM, it's for factory reset (all you data will be gone).
Hmm! May be it's really possible with custom ROMS and/or boot loaders then?

If the OS freezes then NO software will be running, therefore it is not possible to do what the OP is asking.

But what about the factory reset? If it will work, perhaps it can be intercepted?

Factory reset means hard reset, which is powering off the device and holding both volume buttons down whilst powering it back up - that can't be done through software if the OS is frozen. The only way to do that would be to press the reset button or remove/replace the battery.
There is literally 100% no way to power off or reset the device through software, if the OS if frozen.

Well, sometimes it's hard to tell if that's the entire OS is frozen, or just some software is too hungry for resources. I had an issue with the Core Player (TCPMP) freezing, which was blocking all the buttons and the screen taps together, but sometimes unfreeze them for a moment and go through the keypress events queue for a couple of steps. So the events were registered anyway. That happened only 3 times in 15 minutes, so I had to reset the device... The point is - a reset combination handled at the lowest OS level might be of a great help.