Identify hardware inside Magician - JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General

Hello all,
I opened the Magician to repair the phone speaker, but also painting the housing. As I carefully document the parts I found one piece of hardware that draw my attention. I have a clue what it might be, but would like to share it, so maybe you know what it might be.
First some pictures
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Location of the unknown hardware. When you hold your magician face up (screen up) it's under the red phone button.
piece we're talking about.
Where the 2 contact point on the unknown hardware connect to. Just like the phone speaker it kind of floats, so no wires..
As I watched carefully I noticed the shape of a half cylinder. By moving your PDA vertically/horizontally the heavy side moves towards where gravity is, meaning it always points down. (see picture 2)
I think it's some kind of hardware that suppose to, if a software supports it, turn your PDA display horizontal or vertical when you turn it. Something like iPhone demonstrated or even closer Wizard. Wizard's screen automatically goes in horizontal mode when the keypad is sliced out.
If this unknown hardware is what I think it is, why isn't used then? It would be a very nice feature
What do you think it is?

its your vibration motor.
ie: when you have 'vibrate' enabled, and your phone rings, that little motor spins like crazy and the uneven shape of the weight creats the vibration.

Yes, Definately that is the vibration motor.

Yeah... I forget Magician was a phone too... Since I don't use the phone I lost focus
Anyway... It would be great if it could have the ability to turn the screen auto. My guess would be that if that small motor could send it's position back to a chip it should be possible for software (OS for example) to act. (dual function)

I'm trying to fix my vibrator and your pics would help but the links no longer work.
Can you please relink or rehost them or send them to me?

Related

hardware button problem; button 2

the internet explorer iconed button, on the top left hand corner; Button 2
is kinda playing up
It seems it is almost permanently pressed, though it doesn't seem stuck, when it is enabled the shortcut program or function continues to run; e.g. pie keeps starting (I've tried changing the shortcut and there's the same effect on any function I set to the button)
I've done a hard-reset, changed rom, but it persists, so its definitely a hardware fault. The main problem with it is, even if I minimize PIE for example, the hardware buttons remain unusable unless i unassign everything from that button.
I've tried cleaning where i can etc. but to no avail
its not a huge problem, heck it doesn't really matter if I need to keep that button without function, its just one of those little annoying and niggly problems, and maybe someone else has had the same and found a solution
if not its ok, and thank for reading
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
The above picture shows the two micro-switches (Silver blocks with round black protrusions). It would be well nigh impossible to dismantle these - replacement may be possible, though I suspect you would only be able to buy the board complete.
You say you have tried cleaning. Do you mean externally or internally. It may be possible that the micro switch is not releasing due to a detritus build up internally or some misalignment of the pasic facia switch cover. The micr-switches even when pressed via the facia plastic should give a discernable soft click when pressed.
Mike
firstly thank you very much, for all your effor, its well appreciated my friend.
I've tried cleaning externally only and yes it probably is a buildup of dirt internally, but I don't think I'll be dismantling the device as its only a small proble, and once I've removed the assigned function from that button its not problematic. But if it gets worse, starts again etc. I'll have to, so thanks very much.
Thank you.
No probs. Might just start working again by itself if the blockage gets dislodged.
Mike

Slider Loose

Is there any way to tighten up the part that slides? If so I would appreciate it.
Hi, you may try this, seems simple enough.
http://docfiles.blogspot.com/2007/08/loose-keyboard-fix-for-dopod-838.html
larainzlo07 said:
Is there any way to tighten up the part that slides? If so I would appreciate it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The above suggestion, takes up a bit of the slack. But if you want a firm fix that goes to the source of the problem and get a true lock into open and closed positions then go here:
http://michael-channon.spaces.live.com/?_c11_BlogPart_BlogPart=blogview&_c=BlogPart&partqs=cat%3dHermes%2bFixes
And for a little discussion about it here (or in fact on a few threads here at XDA-Dev.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298784
Of course for this FIX you need to be willing to strip down the phone and get right to actual sliders themselves - which is of course warranty voiding if you have one. A slider/runner is shown below:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
If your mechanism does not firmly click open and closed it is because the little indents you see on the sliders (eg right end of the slider in the pic) are not quite deep enough. (there are two sliders and four indents - one at each end of each slider) The metal is fairly but not overly soft so a gentle tap with a small flat blade screwdriver will increase its depth. Don't over do it though or you'll end up with the opposite problem of the click clsed and open being too firm.
In some extreme cases, folks have found that the slider has actually sprung open. You can see little micro-welds running round the slider holding it closed. In the example above the person had to use some super glue to hold the two parts together (I think you can just see it at the end near the indent. Of course if you have access to a micro welder then that would be even better. Note this is probable more rare and there is an alternative to gluing on the first link).
The first link gives a couple of dismantling guides, and there is also the Service Manual that gives a set of dismantling pics available here:
http://michael-channon.spaces.live....gPart&partqs=cat=Download+HTC+Service+Manuals
Mike
thanx for the help guys

8525 with a missing part

Can someone help me identify the part that is missing from the case of my 8525? If you are looking at the back of the case, the silver cylinder thingy that fits in the opening on the bottom right corner of the case is missing. I'd like to know what this piece does and if I need/should replace it.
TIA for any help!
Mine came the same way from AT&T. I always assumed it was for a Hermes feature AT&T opted not to include in their model, similar to the second camera.
Your stylus is missing
Easy enough to buy another ....
http://cgi.ebay.com/3Pcs-3x-Metal-S...ryZ35158QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Not the stylus hole... the OTHER side
The stylus fits in the hole on the left side (from the back of the 8525), I'm referring to the hole on the RIGHT side. I believe it is usually covered with a silver circular thing.
That silver ring is nothing more than a place to attach a lanyard to give it it's fancy name. In other words a hook to clip a carrying strap onto if you want one. HTC supply a short wrist lanyard that clips onto the ring - other suppliers I don't know.
You are really not missing anything - with many phones the strap is an optional part.
This sort of thing:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Mike
Many thanks Mike (though, secretly I was hoping that it was a missing antenna attachment that would explain why my reception lately has been flakier than a stale croissant)!
jegellman said:
Many thanks Mike (though, secretly I was hoping that it was a missing antenna attachment that would explain why my reception lately has been flakier than a stale croissant)!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You MAY be suffering from the signal flipping from GPRS to 3G. If you get dropped calls and high battery drain, you may want to select GSM Band only in:
Start>Settings>Phone>Band. (Change from Auto to GSM)
(Some branded models do not have this option)
I stress IF you have this problem. BUT it may be worth a try just to see if things improve. If you do not have the option then do a search on Bandswitch or Commmgr.pro
Mike
EDIT: By the way there is a place to attach an external aerial under the round rubber pop out cover on the back cover.

[Q] Before I pulverize my Jade...

Hello friends,
I've been using this phone for two years now and it was not bad until recently when touch screen started to misfunction, especially in lower third of the screen, making it impossible to type meny buttons and use keyboard correctly. Since then, I have properly flashed several ROMs, even cooked ones from this forum (btw, I find them very neat) but the problem persist in wide range:
- with some ROMs it get stucked on Screen alignment;
- even if "Remote Screen Alignment" tool was used, it didnt' help with most ROMs;
- Some ROMs like
_HTC Touch 3G_RUU_Jade_Orange_FR-B2B_1.71.73.11_Radio_Sign_12.36.30.29.UMA_0.29.30.U23_Ship
and
sj1.2.2-wwe_ultralite&clean (thanks to developers and uploaders)
pass well the screen alignment, but after short walk through Menu it starts again to be unprecise and makes use of keyboard and other impossible!!!
So, just before I grab my hammer and pulverize this dear and beloved Windows phone, is there ANYONE who can give me an advice here?
Thanks to all of you and keep developing, because you're doing a great deed for the people worldwide.
Cheers from France
Mais oui, mon ami. The problem lies with the digitizer, meaning the device which converts your screen touches to digital information. It's the phone's plastic screen cover, to be more precise. Either take your phone to a GSM service to have yours replaced, or buy a new one from e-bay and change it yourself, if you're a DIY kind of guy.
This is how the digitizer looks:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Multumesc prietenului meu!
I thought it could be a hardware failure, because we just can't blame it on software every time.
Funny, but I think I didn't wear-out this digitizer that much in the past, but maybe their lifetime is not as long as three years?
I remember this Jade fell of the table once, so maybe it could be some bad connection?
I also took your advice and googled a bit for shopping results and it seems that there are TWO different sorts of displays and digitizers for the same model of HTC Touch 3G Jade T3232. This means that I should open up the phone prior to purchase of this spare part.
I promise to post here the result of this "surgical operation" once I get it done.
Thanks again

#2663# and select TSP FW update ALWAYS FiX MY TOUCHSCREEN. WHAT IT IS ???

I am on lollipop and use stock rom, never tried to root or something like that, my phone is new I have it for like 1 month until now
This is an old thread started by me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/help/center-zone-touchscreen-dead-to-finger-t3219392
Some spot in my touchscreen was dead to finger, and "#2663# -> TSP FW update" fixed the problem to me.
Right now I had another touchscreen problem, was most difficult to replicate, happened when I keep the finger pressed, then the touchscreen got some kind of fail in that specific spot and stopped holding the press, I noticed because it was on the keyboard, and couldnt keep pressed R button to make the "4" appear, instead i got "rrrrrrr" (because touchscreen cant detect my finger pressed). When this happended, when I tried to swype over that zone, the detection was deflected or something like that (english is not my first language sorry)
Look at it
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
And this time AGAIN, "#2663# -> TSP FW update" fixed the problem for me.
The most weird thing ?? Both time the problem was gone when I grabbed the pone with one hand and used my other hand fingers in the touchscreen, BOTH THIS PROBLEMS WERE ONLY REPLICATED USING THE PHONE OVER A SURFACE, TABLE, BED, FLOOR, JUST WITH ONE HAND TOUCHING THE PHONE AND ON THE SCREEN. WHEN I GRABBED WITH ANOTHER I COULDNT REPLICATE THE PROBLEM.
WHAT IS ****ING HAPPENING HERE, IS THIS NORMAL ???
Why #2663# and select TSP FW update -> always fix my problems ? is my phone broken ?
sorry for the giant pic, i dont know how to make spoilers in this forum
sorry for the giant pic, i dont know how to make spoilers in this forum
I may be wrong about this but this looks like a grounding problem. When you're using one hand to hold the phone, the charge from your hand using the phone is able to flow through your hand that is holding it. When you use it on an insulating material (eg. wood, cloth) the charge is unable to flow from the affected area which makes it unable to detect your touches.
should I change the phone ? I am the only one with this problem ? Why the update fixed the issue every time ?

Categories

Resources