Database Users

Identify hardware inside Magician

Hello all,
I opened the Magician to repair the phone speaker, but also painting the housing. As I carefully document the parts I found one piece of hardware that draw my attention. I have a clue what it might be, but would like to share it, so maybe you know what it might be.
First some pictures
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Location of the unknown hardware. When you hold your magician face up (screen up) it's under the red phone button.
piece we're talking about.
Where the 2 contact point on the unknown hardware connect to. Just like the phone speaker it kind of floats, so no wires..
As I watched carefully I noticed the shape of a half cylinder. By moving your PDA vertically/horizontally the heavy side moves towards where gravity is, meaning it always points down. (see picture 2)
I think it's some kind of hardware that suppose to, if a software supports it, turn your PDA display horizontal or vertical when you turn it. Something like iPhone demonstrated or even closer Wizard. Wizard's screen automatically goes in horizontal mode when the keypad is sliced out.
If this unknown hardware is what I think it is, why isn't used then? It would be a very nice feature
What do you think it is?

its your vibration motor.
ie: when you have 'vibrate' enabled, and your phone rings, that little motor spins like crazy and the uneven shape of the weight creats the vibration.

Yes, Definately that is the vibration motor.

Yeah... I forget Magician was a phone too... Since I don't use the phone I lost focus
Anyway... It would be great if it could have the ability to turn the screen auto. My guess would be that if that small motor could send it's position back to a chip it should be possible for software (OS for example) to act. (dual function)

I'm trying to fix my vibrator and your pics would help but the links no longer work.
Can you please relink or rehost them or send them to me?

Slider Loose

Is there any way to tighten up the part that slides? If so I would appreciate it.

Hi, you may try this, seems simple enough.
http://docfiles.blogspot.com/2007/08/loose-keyboard-fix-for-dopod-838.html

larainzlo07 said:
Is there any way to tighten up the part that slides? If so I would appreciate it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The above suggestion, takes up a bit of the slack. But if you want a firm fix that goes to the source of the problem and get a true lock into open and closed positions then go here:
http://michael-channon.spaces.live.com/?_c11_BlogPart_BlogPart=blogview&_c=BlogPart&partqs=cat%3dHermes%2bFixes
And for a little discussion about it here (or in fact on a few threads here at XDA-Dev.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298784
Of course for this FIX you need to be willing to strip down the phone and get right to actual sliders themselves - which is of course warranty voiding if you have one. A slider/runner is shown below:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
If your mechanism does not firmly click open and closed it is because the little indents you see on the sliders (eg right end of the slider in the pic) are not quite deep enough. (there are two sliders and four indents - one at each end of each slider) The metal is fairly but not overly soft so a gentle tap with a small flat blade screwdriver will increase its depth. Don't over do it though or you'll end up with the opposite problem of the click clsed and open being too firm.
In some extreme cases, folks have found that the slider has actually sprung open. You can see little micro-welds running round the slider holding it closed. In the example above the person had to use some super glue to hold the two parts together (I think you can just see it at the end near the indent. Of course if you have access to a micro welder then that would be even better. Note this is probable more rare and there is an alternative to gluing on the first link).
The first link gives a couple of dismantling guides, and there is also the Service Manual that gives a set of dismantling pics available here:
http://michael-channon.spaces.live....gPart&partqs=cat=Download+HTC+Service+Manuals
Mike

thanx for the help guys

Adapt stylus broke my silo!!! Don't buy them!!!

Hi everyone,
Today I bought a set of new styli from Adapt for my Hermes. I used it for a few times today. But one time when I reinserted the stylus after entering some text, I heard a "knack" sound in the silo. Now my stylus will fall out when picking up the device. I am very disapointed with this particular Adapt product and recommend everybody who reads this post to not purchase their styli.
But my real question is, does one of you know how to fix this?
Scott

Rahza said:
Hi everyone,
Today I bought a set of new styli from Adapt for my Hermes. I used it for a few times today. But one time when I reinserted the stylus after entering some text, I heard a "knack" sound in the silo. Now my stylus will fall out when picking up the device. I am very disapointed with this particular Adapt product and recommend everybody who reads this post to not purchase their styli.
But my real question is, does one of you know how to fix this?
Scott
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You have either broken the white clip or dislodged the rubber block.
You would need to remove the back casing (4 screws) and unclip around the edge.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Mike

nice one mike,excellent answer.have a go dude its very easy actually

Fixed it!
Thanks Mike,
Fixed it this evening. Indeed, it was just too easy! Only releasing the back, after unscrewing it, was kinda tricky. Everything turned out fine and it works like a charm now.
Thanks again!
Scott

Good news!
I forgot to mention, but I'm sure you remembered to line up the camera's macro toggle arm when putting the back on again. If not you'll find the macro switch doesn't work. If so it's easy to remove the back, line iup the switch (a bit fiddly) and replace back cover again.
Mike

Hi Mike,
Thanks for the tip.
Before I attemted the "surgery", I read the blog you reffered to throughoutly. So I knew about the macro switch. But thanks again!
Scott

Do not express their views and support of the landlord, the more people want to verify

Something stuck deep into the stylus sleeve

Hi everyone,
I have a peculiar problem. Somehow something (probably a tiny piece of cloth) is stuck at the very end of the stylus holder hole/sleeve. Now the stylus doesn’t get completely in anymore and I don’t think such small tweezers exist to extract this object.
I am considering opening the device up but the upper right screw has a sticker saying “void” on it, and I really wouldn’t want to void the warranty.
Has anyone had this problem before? If so how did you resolve it?
Thanks

I think opening up the whole device should be the last option, as you will loose your warranty probably.
What have you tried so far? Maybe you can go into the sleeve with something like a conductor and try to pull this tiny piece of cloth out.

I've tried with a toothpick but it was too small. I am thinking of buying a disposable medical syringe that should be longer and provide some suction to ge the thing out, but I am a bit scared of damaging something by "going to deep"

Uncurled paperclip?

try a vacuum cleaner?! perhaps he can vacuum it out ...

Sticky tape or blutack on the end of the stylus?
Kev

Thanks for the advice everyone. I've tried an uncurled paperclip. Even managed to make a tiny hook at the end of it but nothing. whatever is in there is well stuck to the bottom.
I am thinking of sending it back to htc under warranty. I'll play dumb and say I have no clue why I can't get my sylus completely in (which is not too false). I am hoping they'll open it up to check whether there is some fault, and, if they really find something stuck in there they might just take it off.
What do you guys think?

You should try something like that:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

Run the device under a very high pressure fireman's hose, or one of the ones they use when stripping rust off ships paint (just dont get your fingers in the way).
That should do it.

well i found the HD sevice manual in pdf somewhere so if you need to open it i can say DONT DO WITHOUT MANUAL! lots of mistakes are possible when trying on yer own.
pm me for it if you are in need.

The diamond had a problem like this.....
there is a magnet that the stylis slides through....
on some diamonds it can come unglued.....and then the magnet can move
just wondering if this could be the same problem....you never know

Replacing the magics coverings

I am a proud magic owner but as some users have found out like me, it is a slippery fish when it comes to its glossy covers. At first I did not use the slightly camp white leather pouch the magic comes with and now I am regretting it.
The phone has now acquired some bumps and scraps. I thought to my self I would replace the phone covers. So I ordered some on the bay and got them sent to my office.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
I hunted down the service manual for the phone. (If anyone is looking for this I have it uploaded here).
I merrily went to work disassembling it bit by bit until I came across a slight problem. Now I have uploaded pictures to illustrate my woes.
First the battery cover was completely rubbish, the brushed steel plate that surrounds the camera was dented and also had the metal grate missing which usually covers the speaker. This was not the biggest worry however.
When I dismantled the phone I got to the stage of separating the the front cover from the middle part of the case. Now as you can see on this picture on the back of the mid section of the case there are two white label like stickers which have gold contacts on the inside.
There are more of these labels on the antenna at the bottom of the phone also. They make contact with gold contacts on the phones main board. I assume the bottom antenna is the gsm antenna and the the contacts on the top are for the gps. I could be wrong though this could be the other way around.
The problem is these label type contacts are not present on my new case mid section as I have shown here in this picture.
Has anyone else had any experience with changing the covers on this phone. Or if these contacts are important or even if its possible to find these labels so I can fit them to my new case.
Cheers for any help you can give me, or if any of this info is useful to you also if you are in the same sticky situation.
Vale

bumpity bump!

you could try contacting htc, maybe someone could be friendly enough to point you in the right direction. also email the vendor you got the parts from and say the housing is unusable. I ran into a similar problem with my g1, which ended up having the housing all jacked up.
Sorry I can't be of more help.

Thanks for your help, I will see if I can find out anything and post my findings.
Vale

Just curious, have you tried removing the stickers? Would they just rip apart? Is that the only complication?
You might be able to find a bricked/waterdamaged magic and change the housing without all the drama.
hey check this out too, it may help:
http://www.shope2.com/product_mamual/DOPOD/htc.magic.pdf