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How long Google will provide updates for Nexus 4 after Nexus 5 is out ???
Thanks.
well, let's put it this way: galaxy nexus is technically a 2011 device (q4 2011) and it still gets updates. nexus s is a 2010 device (q4 2010) and it does not. the last update for nexus s was 4.1.2 late last year. I would expect about another year to a year and a half of updates....give or take a few months. Depending on the update schedule in that time period, there's a chance we would see 6.x or a very late 5.x build as our final update.
I'm obviously just speculating, but this is all based on past history with nexii, so please don't start a battle over this, anyone and scream for proof or anything lol
probably untill the end of next year...
It is MUCH more powerfull than Galaxy Nexus, so it may go even further...
hp420 said:
well, let's put it this way: galaxy nexus is technically a 2011 device (q4 2011) and it still gets updates. nexus s is a 2010 device (q4 2010) and it does not. the last update for nexus s was 4.1.2 late last year. I would expect about another year to a year and a half of updates....give or take a few months. Depending on the update schedule in that time period, there's a chance we would see 6.x or a very late 5.x build as our final update.
I'm obviously just speculating, but this is all based on past history with nexii, so please don't start a battle over this, anyone and scream for proof or anything lol
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Hi,
Thanks for the info.
18 months is the promised duration. any more than that is a blessing..
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As mentioned above, we would mostly see updates till the latest 5.x build or maybe even the 6.x build. What's interesting though is that starting from 5.0 Google is supposedly focusing on making android a smooth experience even on low power single core 512 MB RAM devices (did the nexus one have similar specs?). So maybe we might even see updates for 2 years or so. Just speculating. Even if we don't, we've always got these amazing devs, hats off to them.
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As mentioned above, we would mostly see updates till the latest 5.x build or maybe even the 6.x build. What's interesting though is that starting from 5.0 Google is supposedly focusing on making android a smooth experience even on low power single core 512 MB RAM devices (did the nexus one have similar specs?). So maybe we might even see updates for 2 years or so. Just speculating. Even if we don't, we've always got these amazing devs, hats off to them.
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if they build for 512mb ram all legacy nexus devices are covered
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...-S,Samsung-GALAXY-Nexus/phones/4512,4990,5595
While the Nexus 4 Hardware can handle it.
4.1.2 for the Nexus S made it a little less snappy, that's why it was the latest update for the Nexus S.
muldy said:
While the Nexus 4 Hardware can handle it.
4.1.2 for the Nexus S made it a little less snappy, that's why it was the latest update for the Nexus S.
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yeah, but if the rumors are true, 5.0 will be better optimized for devices like nexus s with low ram. ram consumption is the biggest issue with running jelly bean on older devices right now.
kikloo said:
Hi,
How long Google will provide updates for Nexus 4 after Nexus 5 is out ???
Thanks.
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Until 2015
Since the specs on current gen phones are so good now, the N4 could probably be supported for many years.
Most Android updates need/recommend 1GB of RAM and a basic dual core processor.
As above.
I´m quite interrested to get an answer on that question. :laugh:
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-Notarmaso
You obviously don't understand the reason of buying a Nexus device. You buy a Nexus device not because of specs but because it runs pure Android and gets updated and supported straight from Google for years to come.
It is one of the sole reasons for owning a Nexus. If Kit-Kat were not to come to the N4 it would ruin everything that the Nexus line stood for.
Notarmaso said:
As above.
I´m quite interrested to get an answer on that question. :laugh:
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-Notarmaso
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Yes, GOOGLE NEXUS 4 will be the first device to get the kitkat 4.4 update, provided it is not released with/in Nexus 5.
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You obviously don't understand the reason of buying a Nexus device. You buy a Nexus device not because of specs but because it runs pure Android and gets updated and supported straight from Google for years to come.
It is one of the sole reasons for owning a Nexus. If Kit-Kat were not to come to the N4 it would ruin everything that the Nexus line stood for.
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I have been a proud owner of my nexus 4 in many month, I know that the nexus would get all updates, but I read 10 Places that it onl y would be released for nexus 5 in october, and that's why I asked in here. Thanks!
No, only for Nexus S.
Logic says that KitKat will be first seen on Nexus 5 on release date, and after that we, nexus 4 owners, will receive it too.
Google would definitely want to show off KK on its new device first. Thats my guess.
Notarmaso said:
I have been a proud owner of my nexus 4 in many month, I know that the nexus would get all updates, but I read 10 Places that it onl y would be released for nexus 5 in october, and that's why I asked in here. Thanks!
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Well that can be correct. No one knows what month it will be released in for the N4. I am sure it will be released first with the N5 and then to the N4 shortly after.
Heck, nothing has even been officially announced yet so no one knows what month anything is being released yet.
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Yes, GOOGLE NEXUS 4 will be the first device to get the kitkat 4.4 update, provided it is not released with/in Nexus 5.
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Well I misunderstood something then, I read many different Places that NEXUS 5 would be the first device with Kitkat 4.4
I voted :good:
They won't discontinue the nexus 4 and gnex at the same time
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Notarmaso said:
I have been a proud owner of my nexus 4 in many month, I know that the nexus would get all updates, but I read 10 Places that it onl y would be released for nexus 5 in october, and that's why I asked in here. Thanks!
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What was the reasoning for those statements by those 10 places? Bring a few examples, I want to see how they came up with that. I have heard the opposite, that kitkat will be built so that older and weaker devices could run it also, which is based on one sentence "It's our goal with Android KitKat to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody." - doesnt sound like "its our goal to make it exclusive for the next nexus".
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What was the reasoning for those statements by those 10 places? Bring a few examples, I want to see how they came up with that. I have heard the opposite, that kitkat will be built so that older and weaker devices could run it also, which is based on one sentence "It's our goal with Android KitKat to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody." - doesnt sound like "its our goal to make it exclusive for the next nexus".
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Youtube - Techrader etc.
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Youtube - Techrader etc.
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Be concrete. Saying my source is youtube is like saying my source is google.
The Nexus 4 isn't even a year old yet...
kitkat will be released to all nexus 4 besides for yours. yes, goigle is watching you specifically :silly:
Anyone think we have a chance for it?
probably not officially, but from what we have xda
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We will have it for sure. But official is kind of unknown atm because only preview images for the nexus 5 and nexus 7 (I guess the 2013 model)will be avalible tomorrow. I guess wait and see what the devs can do overall we are still rocking a nexus device. Right?
I think 4.4.4 is latest officialy update but not last one, we have xda.
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I should have been more clear. I would not assume, nor do I think we will get it officially. BUT....I am not even sure if we will have it unofficially as the ROM has to function with Tegra 3 APIs due to the new graphics abilities. yes/no?
who knows.
the code has not been released yet, so nobody can tell at the moment.
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who knows.
the code has not been released yet, so nobody can tell at the moment.
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Good point. Just thought is would be fun to theorize about the possibility. It would really "renew" the 2012 models viability.
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who knows.
the code has not been released yet, so nobody can tell at the moment.
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you can say it for let's say 70% that it will come UNOFFICIAL because most custom roms have a backward compatible framework. So that e.g. drivers that are not supported by a newer android version can still be used in that version or a CPU feature is missing e.g. neon in the 2X. Google stopped the support for non neon devices I think in android 4.2.2 and guess what, the 2X is rocking Android 4.4.4
Think that Nexus 7 (2012) not have ART compilation and Android L is only ART. Not official Android L for N7.
But... the community will bring us Android L
I trust on xda for android L in my nexus :highfive:
Android L developer preview image officially live for "flo" (Nexus 7 2013) here: https://developer.android.com/preview/setup-sdk.html#top
Shall the port begins now?
I think we'll have it, the dev on Google IO session talking about Material Design said they "tested the 60fps performance on the original Nexus 7"
This at least proved they have a L build for us, the matter is will they release it to us.
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If not official I hope devs can come through. I remember honeycomb was being ported to phones so yeah devs here on theses forums are amazing
Don't worry, we'll get it. I asked the Android team during the Android Fireside Chat how L will run on low end devices and they said they began testing and development on the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 7 (2012). So L was actually designed for our tablet and will obviously have an official build! :highfive:
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Don't worry, we'll get it. I asked the Android team during the Android Fireside Chat how L will run on low end devices and they said they began testing and development on the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 7 (2012). So L was actually designed for our tablet and will obviously have an official build! :highfive:
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Great info!
I don't know...the nexus 4 is not even receiving any love and its really a smaller N7 2013.
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I agree that L will make it to our 2012 tablets. We are not dead yet and I'm not upgrading until the new nexus 8 is out myself. Good times! ?
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Think that Nexus 7 (2012) not have ART compilation and Android L is only ART. Not official Android L for N7.
But... the community will bring us Android L
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That's not good news I have an old app that I use every day that hasn't been updated in 3 years and doesn't worth with ART
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Think that Nexus 7 (2012) not have ART compilation and Android L is only ART. Not official Android L for N7.
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It has been proven by several custom ROMs that ART runs on the 2012 Nexus 7. So it's just a matter of Google officially enable ART on the 2012 Nexus 7.
But I actually don't think that we'll get the official L Update. Google wants us to upgrade to the newer N7 or even the rumored Nexus 8.
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Don't worry, we'll get it. I asked the Android team during the Android Fireside Chat how L will run on low end devices and they said they began testing and development on the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 7 (2012). So L was actually designed for our tablet and will obviously have an official build! :highfive:
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This doesn't really mean anything. Google may work with older devices during development to ensure performance and quality of Material on older hardware, but doesn't necessarily mean they will create an official build for consumers.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/7...xus-7-is-reportedly-not-getting-android-m.htm
Just saw this, not sure if this news is reliable but that would kind of suck..
Far from credible. Honestly if it doesn't come from Google or Android Police don't beleve it. Actually don't even trust Google just AP.
Someone sent us a tip saying “goodbye Nexus 7, no Android M for you”, and they also said they are close to the Android M development...
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Thats the source lol.
I can see maybe the 2012 nexus 7 being dropped from M update.
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Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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The nexus 7 2012 is fine but if google stops updating the 2013 version I'm gonna bust their asses my Xperia Z1 from 2013 even has a chance of getting M...
atm android 5.1.1 still sucks on my N7 so I hoped that M would fix my issues!
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vkk178 said:
Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
Edit: here's the ap article, it looks like we might not get M
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/
godutch said:
They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
Edit: here's the ap article, it looks like we might not get M
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/
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Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .
I'm not very concerned. Even if Google doesn't give us the update, it probably won't be very long before CyanogenMod comes out with it. I'm willing to bet that this tablet continues to get community support for another couple of years.
Without a CM Flo or deb device maintainer I doubt CM based on Android M would appear officially for us. Maybe other ROMs that have flo maintainers/devs will bring Android M to our devices after making 5.1.1 Lollipop binaries and stuff compatible with M
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Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .
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The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.
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The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.
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Besides the point you mentioned , Android does have other benefits ... But I was talking more in terms of Nexus devices . If high end devices & Nexus devices (from the google stable) dont get updates for longer , it would be crappy .No point investing in an expensive Nexus device..
If they stopped selling the N7 2013 in October 2014, 18 months of updates would end April 2016 I think.
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2 years after release date
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Despite rumors circulating about the chance of official M for flo, I doubt that it will be left out. After all, Google recently announced monthly updates for a list of nexus devices that includes flo. Even if those updates came only in the form of patches for L, I'm sure unofficial support will be there. Even my old galaxy nexus has unofficially made it to the latest revision of lollipop...
I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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Totally agree, 5.1.1 runs smooth on my N7 so I see no reason from a hardware perspective that the N7 shouldn't get M. I think it will be last release so lets hope its a good one.
When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?
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When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?
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M developer preview was available for the nexus 5,6 and 9, unfortunately the nexus 4 didn't make the cut, as you quite rightly said, it was released in 2012, which is a bit more than the two year update garuntee
I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?
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I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?
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Marshmallow hasn't been released so there is no AOSP Source made public from Google. ROMs will appear once Android 6.0 and it's Source Code is released (rumored by the end of this month)
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Hi,
I want to buy the nexus 6p, but I want to know how long the nexus 6p will be supported by Google?(updates)
I do believe it's 24 months from the release date. N5 has had its last update ever (to Marshmallow) as it's now a 2-year old phone and they aren't going to update it anymore. So you will see two more major updates to your phone (Android N and O) before Google cuts support on it.
Nexus 5 is still being updated! Google hasn't said anything about Android N yet, but the Nexus 5 is on Android 6.0.1 and receiving security updates still
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Devhux said:
Nexus 5 is still being updated! Google hasn't said anything about Android N yet, but the Nexus 5 is on Android 6.0.1 and receiving security updates still
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Yep, you're right - it's at least two years from device's release;
Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, Nexus 6, Nexus 5, Nexus 4, Nexus 7, Nexus 9 and Nexus 10 devices get the latest version of Android directly from Google. These devices will receive Android version updates for at least two years from when the device first became available on the Google Store.
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More information can be found here: https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/4457705
A minimum of 2 years. Nexus 4 had 3 years (after that it still had a few monthly security patches), Nexus 5 had 2 years and counting.
No need to worry about losing official support, custom ROMs are always there to cover you for 1~2 more years.
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At least 2 years, but probably a few more as well....
Isee,
It will get Android N and O for sure. Beyond O it's up to Google if it will get more. As for N and Nexus 5 it's likely it won't get it but Google may not pull the plug for N5 yet. Even if they do who cares there are tons of custom roms. Only a dead battery can stop a Nexus from getting updates now.
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