Nexus 10 and Nexus 4 were released Nov 2012. We're nearing the 2 year End Of Official Support for Nexus devices. If a newer than 4.4.3 OS is announced at this year's I/O would it be available for official release on the 10 before November? Last year A LOT of people were VERY upset that the Galaxy Nexus wasn't getting Kit Kat 4.4.
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vprasad1 said:
Nexus 10 and Nexus 4 were released Nov 2012. We're nearing the 2 year End Of Official Support for Nexus devices. If a newer than 4.4.3 OS is announced at this year's I/O would it be available for official release on the 10 before November? Last year A LOT of people were VERY upset that the Galaxy Nexus wasn't getting Kit Kat 4.4.
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The official life cycle for Nexus devices is actually 18 months, not 2 years. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't get the next major update (4.5?) on our N10. That being said, 4.4.3 with Xposed Framework is so smooth on this thing that it wouldn't be that big of a deal for me personally. However, I'm sure even if it isn't officially supported, there will be a good AOSP ROM to flash to update if you're feeling burned. That's the beauty of owning a Nexus device. The dev support on these things is unparalleled.
Regarding the Galaxy Nexus, I believe it not receiving Kit Kat was more due to the fact that Texas Instruments had bowed out of the mobile game, so it was impossible to "officially" support. I have since then ditched Verizon and their faux Galaxy Nexus, and picked up a Nexus 5 on T-Mobile. That being said, I am currently using said GNex as a glorified WiFi media device, and it is running the latest Android version (4.4.3) by way of ShinyROM, which is a great AOSP ROM that, if you didn't know any better, was nothing more than stock. This goes back to the fact that it's a Nexus device. Anything is possible. :good:
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/7...xus-7-is-reportedly-not-getting-android-m.htm
Just saw this, not sure if this news is reliable but that would kind of suck..
Far from credible. Honestly if it doesn't come from Google or Android Police don't beleve it. Actually don't even trust Google just AP.
Someone sent us a tip saying “goodbye Nexus 7, no Android M for you”, and they also said they are close to the Android M development...
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Thats the source lol.
I can see maybe the 2012 nexus 7 being dropped from M update.
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Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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The nexus 7 2012 is fine but if google stops updating the 2013 version I'm gonna bust their asses my Xperia Z1 from 2013 even has a chance of getting M...
atm android 5.1.1 still sucks on my N7 so I hoped that M would fix my issues!
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vkk178 said:
Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
Edit: here's the ap article, it looks like we might not get M
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/
godutch said:
They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
Edit: here's the ap article, it looks like we might not get M
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/
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Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .
I'm not very concerned. Even if Google doesn't give us the update, it probably won't be very long before CyanogenMod comes out with it. I'm willing to bet that this tablet continues to get community support for another couple of years.
Without a CM Flo or deb device maintainer I doubt CM based on Android M would appear officially for us. Maybe other ROMs that have flo maintainers/devs will bring Android M to our devices after making 5.1.1 Lollipop binaries and stuff compatible with M
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Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .
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The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.
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The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.
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Besides the point you mentioned , Android does have other benefits ... But I was talking more in terms of Nexus devices . If high end devices & Nexus devices (from the google stable) dont get updates for longer , it would be crappy .No point investing in an expensive Nexus device..
If they stopped selling the N7 2013 in October 2014, 18 months of updates would end April 2016 I think.
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2 years after release date
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Despite rumors circulating about the chance of official M for flo, I doubt that it will be left out. After all, Google recently announced monthly updates for a list of nexus devices that includes flo. Even if those updates came only in the form of patches for L, I'm sure unofficial support will be there. Even my old galaxy nexus has unofficially made it to the latest revision of lollipop...
I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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Cor-master said:
I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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Totally agree, 5.1.1 runs smooth on my N7 so I see no reason from a hardware perspective that the N7 shouldn't get M. I think it will be last release so lets hope its a good one.
When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?
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When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?
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M developer preview was available for the nexus 5,6 and 9, unfortunately the nexus 4 didn't make the cut, as you quite rightly said, it was released in 2012, which is a bit more than the two year update garuntee
I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?
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I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?
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Marshmallow hasn't been released so there is no AOSP Source made public from Google. ROMs will appear once Android 6.0 and it's Source Code is released (rumored by the end of this month)
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Our devices will not get Android M. Everyone's saying it.
So what is this? Why google worked on these devices for Android 6.0?
android-m-preview
- Nexus 10
- Nexus 7 (2012)
- Nexus 4
android-m-preview-1
- Nexus 10
- Nexus 7 (2012)
- Nexus 4
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- Nexus 10
- Nexus 7 (2012)
- Nexus 4
On October 15, 2014, Google officially announced that Android L would be known as Android 5.0 "Lollipop". The company also unveiled launch devices for Android 5.0—including Motorola's Nexus 6 and HTC's Nexus 9—for release on November 3, 2014. Google stated that Nexus (including the Nexus 4, 5, 7, and 10) and Google Play edition devices would receive updates to Lollipop "in the coming weeks"; one more developer preview build for Nexus devices and the new SDK revision for application developers would be released on October 17, 2014. Update schedules for third-party Android devices may vary by manufacturer.
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Maybe we need to wait a little bit.
perfect_ said:
Our devices will not get Android M. Everyone's saying it.
So what is this? Why google worked on these devices for Android 6.0?
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Probably to give the dev's something to work with rather than officially supporting it, someone will get it booting and that's probably what they're hoping for.
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Probably to give the dev's something to work with rather than officially supporting it, someone will get it booting and that's probably what they're hoping for.
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I never thought about this... If this is true, it will probably go down as one of the greatest strokes of genius to happen at Google in regards to the Nexus program. Capitalizing on the unlocked bootloader, and throwing devs a bone without taking the time and resources to support them officially. Those who really want it get Marshmallow, and everybody's happy.
Great....now I don't need to upgrade to Pixel C.
I am thinking of buying the nexus 6p in the upcoming flipkart sale. If I remember correctly, it was released with Android M. Now it has got N. Google has promised 2 new versions to each phone. So will the 6p get Android O whenever it releases?
I know Pixels are around the corner but I am quite sure that I won't be able to afford it right now.
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Here is the EOL of the Nexus products.
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/4457705#nexus_devices
Looks like "September 2017" for the 6P. But there will be lots of custom ROMs after the EOL. I love my Nexus and will not be upgrading to a new phone for years.
Yes we should get Android O if that is your question.
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fresnogamer said:
Here is the EOL of the Nexus products.
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/4457705#nexus_devices
Looks like "September 2017" for the 6P. But there will be lots of custom ROMs after the EOL. I love my Nexus and will not be upgrading to a new phone for years.
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That is what I love and hate about Android phones. It's almost as if Google is bullying you into buying a new phone every 2 years. The hardware is more than capable of running newer Android versions unless future releases are 10 years ahead of the hardware,which I doubt will ever be the case in our lifetime. Google should really think about those of us who don't wanna buy a new phone every 2 years. I'm generally speaking from those people who do not root to get custom builds.
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