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Friends.
Android V5 is near launch in a month or two. So then Android V4 will be old.
Same samsung will launch new S4 with few more months waiting.
Update for s3 then will take even more time to come.
This procedure is going on & on with many bloatwares given by Samsung & also by other companies.
I love samsung phones & Use their phone, But support or poor support is biggest hurdel in buying s3 this time.
I am in serious confusion seeing future of S3.
It will get the update.
SGS got its update, SGS2 got its update, SGS3 will get its update.
Updates DO matter but the update plan for android 4 has been a disaster for ALL manufacturers except LG which we shouldn't even talk about as LG is the biggest joke on the android front. Even the nexus line is a failure. I almost got the nexus S a year ago just because of the whole dedicated concept but now I'm glad I didn't. I don't even think the nexus S will get android 5.
Samsung and HTC are those that I feel is the least slow with updates but still none of them will update their first flagships (SGS1 and DHD) even if they without a doubt can run vanilla ICS great. I thought Sony Ericsson learnt their lesson but apparently not as their flagship this year runs GB and that is laughable.
The only "comfort" in all this is that it's the same for all brands.
mertzi said:
Updates DO matter but the update plan for android 4 has been a disaster for ALL manufacturers except LG which we shouldn't even talk about as LG is the biggest joke on the android front. Even the nexus line is a failure. I almost got the nexus S a year ago just because of the whole dedicated concept but now I'm glad I didn't. I don't even think the nexus S will get android 5.
Samsung and HTC are those that I feel is the least slow with updates but still none of them will update their first flagships (SGS1 and DHD) even if they without a doubt can run vanilla ICS great. I thought Sony Ericsson learnt their lesson but apparently not as their flagship this year runs GB and that is laughable.
The only "comfort" in all this is that it's the same for all brands.
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DHD will get ICS as promised by HTC.
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DHD will get ICS as promised by HTC.
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Get galaxy nexus.
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Friends.
Android V5 is near launch in a month or two. So then Android V4 will be old.
Same samsung will launch new S4 with few more months waiting.
Update for s3 then will take even more time to come.
This procedure is going on & on with many bloatwares given by Samsung & also by other companies.
I love samsung phones & Use their phone, But support or poor support is biggest hurdel in buying s3 this time.
I am in serious confusion seeing future of S3.
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This cycle will repeat every year. If you want fast updates get nexus or you can flash roms on the sgs3 to get latest software. If you want latest hardware keep changing phones.
Also what support you are referring to? Why do you need support from useless samsung or any other manufacturer in that matter? XDA is your best support forum and you need manufacturer support only in case of hardware defect and need a warranty replacement or repair
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This cycle will repeat every year. If you want fast updates get nexus or you can flash roms on the sgs3 to get latest software. If you want latest hardware keep changing phones.
Also what support you are referring to? Why do you need support from useless samsung or any other manufacturer in that matter? XDA is your best support forum and you need manufacturer support only in case of hardware defect and need a warranty replacement or repair
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Exactly. If you are confused, then get a nexus so you won't be. Also, who says we are going to Android 5, what about 4.1? Lets not overhype please.
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Rumor has it Samsung, HTC, etc have early access to Jellybean in order to make their Nexii. Previously everyone besides Samsung only had access when it was released.
Whether or not this affects the update schedule remains to be seen. If it doesn't, you can either expect early-mid 2013 for the update, or flash it yourself (no company, not even some ideal hypothetical, can compete with homebrew speed).
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Friends.
Android V5 is near launch in a month or two. So then Android V4 will be old.
Same samsung will launch new S4 with few more months waiting.
Update for s3 then will take even more time to come.
This procedure is going on & on with many bloatwares given by Samsung & also by other companies.
I love samsung phones & Use their phone, But support or poor support is biggest hurdel in buying s3 this time.
I am in serious confusion seeing future of S3.
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What are you basing any of this on? I highly doubt we will see Android 5 this soon (unless it is purely a tablet OS, which I doubt).
Based on your logic, there is no point in buying an Android phone.
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Exactly. If you are confused, then get a nexus so you won't be. Also, who says we are going to Android 5, what about 4.1? Lets not overhype please.
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This.
Android 5 or 4.1 will more then likely come in December just like ics and gingerbread before that. If this is true, this gives you 5 to 6 more months with ics and I doubt the s3 will be as old as you are thinking; sure better devices can come to the market in the next 6 months but let's be real, the s3 will be able to do everything for the next year to a year and a half just fine. I've been with the HTC inspire and this thing is 2 years old yet I rarely have any lag considering I use this for everything including gaming.
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Have perfect solution for u, don't by the SGS 3 and keep waiting for the perfect one, I have a Gnex and very much doubt that it will have Jelly Bean in a month or two or three , maybe more like 5 months and in the smartphone age that is like a year. Or go get a phone named after a fruit. See no one will get Jelly Bean before it makes it's debut on the next Gnex and thats just the way the cookie crumbles. Thank the fruity company for making the latest version the "best " one, at least with Samsung you get more from the next version then just S voice as they did with the 4S and a bit more power.
If you rooted, you won't bother whether Samsung update on time or not because you have everything the best XDA can offer you. If you are not rooted, obviously you are not software geek, why bother whether your GS3 running ICS, Jellybean, Gingerbread or any other version? Everything is a big problem to human if he or she want to think that way.
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DHD will get ICS as promised by HTC.
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yeah sorry you're right, I was certain I read the other day that they cancelled the plan but now I see it will get it july or august, still very late. And considering that, why wont sgs1 get it officially?
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having a nexus phone doesn't guarantee you getting updates in the future. look at N1. and NS got it's first update pulled fast and then it took several months before a new ICS update came. That's why I don't care about the nexus line. And I think that the SGS3 will be a phone that feels fresh longer than any phone before, even with android 4.
ye, even i was thinking about that problem but then i just thought that if android 5 comes out then i will use the customised rom
Custom rom/buy new phone.
Ive had enough of waiting for retarded companies to update things.
Motorola milestone - 6 months late, not fully functional (GB)
LG optimus 3d - not available till september 2012 (at the earliest), sold with the promise of prompt ics update, instead waiting more than a whole year.
Never waiting for an update again. Just gonna buy the new phones.
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having a nexus phone doesn't guarantee you getting updates in the future. look at N1. and NS got it's first update pulled fast and then it took several months before a new ICS update came. That's why I don't care about the nexus line. And I think that the SGS3 will be a phone that feels fresh longer than any phone before, even with android 4.
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They messed up on the Dec update and probably had to redo. Unfortunately, company bureaucracy works much more slowly than we do, and a new update cycle can take 3-5 months. This is true for any company that offers warranties - they have to break as little as they can.
Had they not messed it up, however, NS could have had its upgrade hella quickly.
Don't want to deal with company bureaucracy? Flash homebrew (NS certainly had them much, much more quickly). Otherwise there's still no better option.
s3 will get official JB update and may be cm11 or cm12 for the other version of androids
Hi all,
we have just stopped to wait for the 4.1 Jelly Bean... and there are already some rumors about the 4.2 K release in November.
Do you think we will see an official 4.2 update for our Nexus S?
I'm guessing Key Lime Pie will be announced with the new Nexus phone(s) sometime before the end of this year. If you have a Nexus device then you will get the update eventually. That's the assurance of buying a Nexus phone*.
*Unless you bought a CDMA Nexus.
But really even if the Nexus S is a bit old, it would be a sad to see Google stops supporting it when the hardware is still capable.
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Hi all,
Do you think we will see an official 4.2 update for our Nexus S?
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I'm going to guess no.. Nexus S is EOL and Google has to stop wasting resources on it sooner or later and I'm going to guess 4.1.1 was just that. Android Police server logs show 4.2 running on Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7, and two other non-nexus devices. Nothing showing up for Nexus S running 4.2 though.
If this is the case, we can hope the drivers from 4.1.1 will be usable in 4.2.
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The current Android version for Nexus S (4.1.1) is too much bugged to be the last release. I expect a 4.1.2 or a 4.2 version. Or a Lumia 920.
I'd still like to think that my Nexus S will get the KLP update. After all, 4.2 is not that big an update from 4.1. If however, for some reason Google chooses to drop support for the crespo for that, I won't really blame them as the Crespo has definitely seen better days, and as a veteran for the Android cause, no one can say it hasn't been utilized to its fullest.
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In my opinion Jelly Bean is, with high probability, the last update we will receive.
Anyway I don't think Google will announce another Android version since the 4.1 was release only 3 months ago!
Well,
This is just rumor
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...w-phone-and-a-new-nexus-tablet-both-motorola/
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Someone's trolling Android Police's server logs. JOO92 is an invalid build number. Build numbers don't go higher than 90. JOO92 would be JOP02. Notice in the Android Police article, they show both JOO92 AND JOP02. Hmmm...sounds like someone realized the build number wasn't right, updated it, and hit the site again. This is total troll material.
Another piece of circumstantial evidence (though it may mean nothing)..."O" is a heretofore unseen branch identifier. We know "R" (like JRO03C, GRJ22, etc) is the release branch. We've also seen T (GTJ61), F (JFN53N), W (HWI69, GWK74), C (ICL53F), M (IML74K), and maybe a few others, but I don't think "O" is one that has been used before. Again, doesn't necessarily mean Google doesn't use it for something, but whatever.
The only point here is that the troll gave himself up with JOO92. Fail. BS.
ekerazha said:
The current Android version for Nexus S (4.1.1) is too much bugged to be the last release. I expect a 4.1.2 or a 4.2 version. Or a Lumia 920.
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I do not think it is "too much bugged", but there is still something not working properly...
As you said, it would not be so much good if JB 4.1.1 is the latest build for our Nexus S...
After just getting a Nexus 7 I'm even more convincing the Nexus S will never see 4.2.. Jellybean is absolutely amazing on high end hardware... Ermagerd! Love my Nexus S but I just had a reality check. :laugh:
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After just getting a Nexus 7 I'm even more convincing the Nexus S will never see 4.2.. Jellybean is absolutely amazing on high end hardware... Ermagerd! Love my Nexus S but I just had a reality check. :laugh:
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Yeah, Jelly Bean runs amazingly well on the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 7. It turned the Xoom into a brand new tablet. The Nexus S, not so much. You can tell the hardware has a hard time with it.
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After just getting a Nexus 7 I'm even more convincing the Nexus S will never see 4.2.. Jellybean is absolutely amazing on high end hardware... Ermagerd! Love my Nexus S but I just had a reality check. :laugh:
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Realized the same and sold my nexus s and got a gnex
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Can we at least wait until the next update is announced before saying we want it? Or a least shown in some way or another.
I think the ns will get 4.2, maybe a 'light' version, but I think we will get it. But if they release something like 5.0, there's no way
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Most of the rumors I have heard are saying that 4.2 will still be jellybean. Try googling "project roadrunner"
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hlxanthus said:
Most of the rumors I have heard are saying that 4.2 will still be jellybean. Try googling "project roadrunner"
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If the 4.2 is still Jelly Bean, we can still hope we will get it ...
guys, the n1 just lost support with jb, and afaik, the devs even still managed to hack the crap out of it to make it load....I think it'll be a cold day in hell before devs give up on ns since it's still under 2 years old.
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guys, the n1 just lost support with jb
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Incorrect. The Nexus One lost support with Ice Cream Sandwich. The N1's last official OTA from Google was Gingerbread, 2.3.6/GRK39F.
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I think the Nexus S is done, but I'm happy with the two major updates we got (ICS & JB). We've gotta be thankful that the Nexus S/4G got more support over it's lifetime than most manufacturers do with their whole line of phones. :good:
Just want to see folks predictions about this really. How long do you think it will be before Google will leave it behind?
Nexus One: April/May 2010 - October 2011 (No offical update to 4.0+ )
Nexus S: December 2010 - October 2012 (No 4.2)
Really the Galaxy Nexus will be the next to feel google dropping support of OTA but how long does the N7 have? July 2012 - 2014/15?
i think max 2014
Android 5.0 and 5.1(if they will)
darkmatthew said:
i think max 2014
Android 5.0 and 5.1(if they will)
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No 4.3, 4.4, etc.?
Looking for what year do you think they will stop updating it. Forget Android version numbers as Google might just go from 4.2 to 5.0 to 5.5 or whatever.
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Looking for what year do you think they will stop updating it. Forget Android version numbers as Google might just go from 4.2 to 5.0 to 5.5 or whatever.
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My bet is that N7 will be dropped somewhere in Q1 2014
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My bet is that N7 will be dropped somewhere in Q1 2014
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Just as an add on: There will more than likely be unofficial roms past that too, hopefully
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Just as an add on: There will more than likely be unofficial roms past that too, hopefully
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Maybe CyanogenMod/AOKP/AOSP/etc uodates , but nothing more, since there will be no newer bases to build upon after N7's support ends
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Maybe CyanogenMod/AOKP/AOSP/etc uodates , but nothing more, since there will be no newer bases to build upon after N7's support ends
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Yeah, that's better than nothing
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Maybe CyanogenMod/AOKP/AOSP/etc uodates , but nothing more, since there will be no newer bases to build upon after N7's support ends
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Exactly! Its a very capable device and its a Nexus.. We wont leave it behind!
I think about 2014, we do still have devs also updating some faster then google. This is the first offical google ONLY device made by google, any cellphone has the overlay of the manufacturer. ASUS makes the nexus7/10 and again its only google software no overlay from ASUS. I think it will be suprisingly longer then we expect
I honestly wouldn't worry about it. Nothing lasts forever, so enjoy it while it's there.
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Mid to late 2014, is my guess but who knows maybe it will be for as long the hardware will support it
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I think about 2014, we do still have devs also updating some faster then google. This is the first offical google ONLY device made by google, any cellphone has the overlay of the manufacturer. ASUS makes the nexus7/10 and again its only google software no overlay from ASUS. I think it will be suprisingly longer then we expect
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What about the Nexus One, S, and Galaxy Nexus? All pure android with no bloatware.
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I think about 2014, we do still have devs also updating some faster then google. This is the first offical google ONLY device made by google, any cellphone has the overlay of the manufacturer. ASUS makes the nexus7/10 and again its only google software no overlay from ASUS. I think it will be suprisingly longer then we expect
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Samsung makes the nexus 10 not Asus...
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I feel the Nexus7 will continue to be supported as long as it can handle the new OS and until Google releases another 7in tablet
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Looking at android versions, the Galaxy nexus could even be dropped at the next android release; it seems they're speeding up their android releases.
Which means maybe the next version of android might be the N7's last, unless both JB's only counted as one...
I think they might turn the Nexus line into an iPad type thing - with N7 second generation coming out some time around July. All just guessing though...
No idea. Personally I'm not too bothered about big updates to Android coming sooner - it would be better if Google worked more on bug-fixing - I'm sick of the media server bug, the less than advertised battery life etc on 4.2. They should also focus on getting developers to make more tablet optimised apps, unifying the Android experience (it really annoys me when an app has loading circle / progress bar from gingerbread etc).
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Looking at android versions, the Galaxy nexus could even be dropped at the next android release; it seems they're speeding up their android releases.
Which means maybe the next version of android might be the N7's last, unless both JB's only counted as one...
I think they might turn the Nexus line into an iPad type thing - with N7 second generation coming out some time around July. All just guessing though...
No idea. Personally I'm not too bothered about big updates to Android coming sooner - it would be better if Google worked more on bug-fixing - I'm sick of the media server bug, the less than advertised battery life etc on 4.2. They should also focus on getting developers to make more tablet optimised apps, unifying the Android experience (it really annoys me when an app has loading circle / progress bar from gingerbread etc).
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It will certainly not just be one more version, I expect 5.0 and at least 5.1 updates for our device. And when support stops it will be do to the lack of RAM (really wish they crammed 2GB in this thing)
As for apps, Google publishes Android guidelines. They can't hold a gun to developers heads and make them do things. Vote with your wallet on poorly designed apps, it isn't Google's job.
You can call me a Nexus fanboy I have owned all four Nexus phones every year, liked them all, some more than others. Right now I find the Nexus 4 a good upgrade over the Galaxy Nexus, the N4 has better battery life, a nicer screen once calibrated, and hardware wise much faster and smoother. But at the end of the day, the two phones are not night day radically different.
But some years a Nexus phone is light years ahead of the previous Nexus, I don't feel that with the Nexus 4 over the Galaxy Nexus. Just going on basics, the shape and design of the GNex and N4 are pretty much the same, from afar they look almost the same, and OS wise, not a major difference either, GNex launching with the all new 4.0 ICS, and N4 with JB 4.2, but still, both look pretty much the same with the Holo design etc..
For me the major jaw dropping difference was going from my Nexus-S to Galaxy Nexus, that felt like a major leap forward. The Nexus-S launched as 4" low res screen with Gingerbread, and the Galaxy Nexus launched with the all new ICS 4.0 with a 720p display. When I first got the Galaxy Nexus, and turned it on, I was blown away by it, the high resolution was amazing for the time, and ICS was a huge update over the Nexus-S Gingerbread, it was an amazing big difference in just one year. The two phones were night an day apart.
Again I am comparing them, at what they looked liked, and came with at launch originally. The Nexus-S compared to Galaxy Nexus was HUGE difference, the Galaxy Nexus compared to Nexus 4 not as much.
So what do you think is in store this Fall with the Nexus-Five ? A major leap forward like the N-S to GNex ? Or more of a minor update like GNex to N4 ?
Depends on who the partner is, if HTC I will probably snap the 5 up as HTC know how to make beautiful phones however the N4 is beautiful itself. But I'm assuming it will be faster, etc etc than the current N4 although this phone will last ages to be honest. However tech does move on and whatever the next Nexus is it will be better for that time period boasting newer tech.
I think could go either way. The Nexus-Five could be a major upgrade like N-S to Gnex or just minor like GNex to N4.
I am leaning towards thinking more of a major upgrade due to; Nexus-Five will have a 1080p screen, most likely 4.8" to 5", that's a big update, over the last two Nexus phones both having 4.7" 720p screens. And it will have the all new next generation Android 5,0 Key Lime Pie. Should be a big update there, being a whole new point release. And lastly rumors of the N5 having 3100mAh or so sized battery, that alone would be a huge upgrade in battery life.
Also the big question is, who will be the manufacturer of the new Nexus-Five ? Way to early to say now, but strong rumors of LG again, based off their Optimus Pro phone, but with updated internals, and a 5" screen. Or would not be surprised to see Sony get a shot at making it, and a distant third is getting HTC back into the Nexus game.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2198731
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2199130
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2194960
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2193042
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2102545
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158618
Yay, more Nexus 5 rumors and speculation. There are no hard facts that can be added to this discussion. If another Nexus released, it's going to be an upgrade from the current Nexus 4. This is a given, considering it will be another year after the Nexus 4 released that technology has had to improve, become more cost effective, etc. Aside from that, we cannot really say for sure whether Google is even planning on releasing another Nexus device (although it is extremely likely), much less what it will be like.
Release month ? All Nexus phones have been released Nov / Dec, in the Fall. But with rumors of Android 5.0 KLP being shown off at this May's Google I/O, some are saying that 5.0 might be released shortly after, in June ?
Do you think we will just get an early preview of 5.0 only, not a nearby release, with the official 5.0 release set to launch with the all new Nexus-Five in the Fall ? Or could Google surprise us, and have the Nexus-Five with 5.0 ready for an early Summer release ?
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Release month ? All Nexus phones have been released Nov / Dec, in the Fall. But with rumors of Android 5.0 KLP being shown off at this May's Google I/O, some are saying that 5.0 might be released shortly after, in June ?
Do you think we will just get an early preview of 5.0 only, not a nearby release, with the official 5.0 release set to launch with the all new Nexus-Five in the Fall ? Or could Google surprise us, and have the Nexus-Five with 5.0 ready for an early Summer release ?
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If I were to speculate, I would say a newer version of Android, which may or may not be Android 4.3 or 5.0 or w/e they decide to number it (it doesn't matter at all), would be released at I/O as they usually do. Or they may not. Once again, it doesn't matter. Google doesn't release a new phone every time a new version of Android is released.
Jan 2010 - Android 2.1 Eclair released on December 6, 2010 was first used on the Nexus One
May 2010 - Android 2.2 Froyo, no device
December 2010 - Android 2.3 Gingerbread, Nexus S
February 2011 - Android 3.0-3.2 Honeycomb, Motorola Xoom (not that it really counts, in my book)
October 2011 - Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich, Galaxy Nexus
July 2012 - Android 4.1 Jelly Bean, Nexus 7
November 2012 - Android 4.2 Jelly Bean, Nexus 4
Going by history, a new version of Android is fairly likely, with a possible tablet (maybe an update to the Nexus 7). With three straight Nexus phones being released in Q4, a new phone is more likely towards the end of the year. However, this goes back to being entirely speculation and conjecture, and none of us are privy to Google's plans for the future. We can only look at the past, which shows that about twice a year Google releases major updates to Android, with one phone a year, in between October and January.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/7...xus-7-is-reportedly-not-getting-android-m.htm
Just saw this, not sure if this news is reliable but that would kind of suck..
Far from credible. Honestly if it doesn't come from Google or Android Police don't beleve it. Actually don't even trust Google just AP.
Someone sent us a tip saying “goodbye Nexus 7, no Android M for you”, and they also said they are close to the Android M development...
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Thats the source lol.
I can see maybe the 2012 nexus 7 being dropped from M update.
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Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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The nexus 7 2012 is fine but if google stops updating the 2013 version I'm gonna bust their asses my Xperia Z1 from 2013 even has a chance of getting M...
atm android 5.1.1 still sucks on my N7 so I hoped that M would fix my issues!
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vkk178 said:
Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
Edit: here's the ap article, it looks like we might not get M
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/
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They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
Edit: here's the ap article, it looks like we might not get M
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/
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Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .
I'm not very concerned. Even if Google doesn't give us the update, it probably won't be very long before CyanogenMod comes out with it. I'm willing to bet that this tablet continues to get community support for another couple of years.
Without a CM Flo or deb device maintainer I doubt CM based on Android M would appear officially for us. Maybe other ROMs that have flo maintainers/devs will bring Android M to our devices after making 5.1.1 Lollipop binaries and stuff compatible with M
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Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .
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The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.
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The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.
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Besides the point you mentioned , Android does have other benefits ... But I was talking more in terms of Nexus devices . If high end devices & Nexus devices (from the google stable) dont get updates for longer , it would be crappy .No point investing in an expensive Nexus device..
If they stopped selling the N7 2013 in October 2014, 18 months of updates would end April 2016 I think.
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Despite rumors circulating about the chance of official M for flo, I doubt that it will be left out. After all, Google recently announced monthly updates for a list of nexus devices that includes flo. Even if those updates came only in the form of patches for L, I'm sure unofficial support will be there. Even my old galaxy nexus has unofficially made it to the latest revision of lollipop...
I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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Totally agree, 5.1.1 runs smooth on my N7 so I see no reason from a hardware perspective that the N7 shouldn't get M. I think it will be last release so lets hope its a good one.
When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?
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When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?
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M developer preview was available for the nexus 5,6 and 9, unfortunately the nexus 4 didn't make the cut, as you quite rightly said, it was released in 2012, which is a bit more than the two year update garuntee
I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?
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I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?
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Marshmallow hasn't been released so there is no AOSP Source made public from Google. ROMs will appear once Android 6.0 and it's Source Code is released (rumored by the end of this month)
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