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Waiting 4.2..

Hi all,
we have just stopped to wait for the 4.1 Jelly Bean... and there are already some rumors about the 4.2 K release in November.
Do you think we will see an official 4.2 update for our Nexus S?

I'm guessing Key Lime Pie will be announced with the new Nexus phone(s) sometime before the end of this year. If you have a Nexus device then you will get the update eventually. That's the assurance of buying a Nexus phone*.
*Unless you bought a CDMA Nexus.
But really even if the Nexus S is a bit old, it would be a sad to see Google stops supporting it when the hardware is still capable.

giaomnitel1 said:
Hi all,
Do you think we will see an official 4.2 update for our Nexus S?
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I'm going to guess no.. Nexus S is EOL and Google has to stop wasting resources on it sooner or later and I'm going to guess 4.1.1 was just that. Android Police server logs show 4.2 running on Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7, and two other non-nexus devices. Nothing showing up for Nexus S running 4.2 though.

If this is the case, we can hope the drivers from 4.1.1 will be usable in 4.2.
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The current Android version for Nexus S (4.1.1) is too much bugged to be the last release. I expect a 4.1.2 or a 4.2 version. Or a Lumia 920.

I'd still like to think that my Nexus S will get the KLP update. After all, 4.2 is not that big an update from 4.1. If however, for some reason Google chooses to drop support for the crespo for that, I won't really blame them as the Crespo has definitely seen better days, and as a veteran for the Android cause, no one can say it hasn't been utilized to its fullest.
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In my opinion Jelly Bean is, with high probability, the last update we will receive.
Anyway I don't think Google will announce another Android version since the 4.1 was release only 3 months ago!

Well,
This is just rumor
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...w-phone-and-a-new-nexus-tablet-both-motorola/
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Someone's trolling Android Police's server logs. JOO92 is an invalid build number. Build numbers don't go higher than 90. JOO92 would be JOP02. Notice in the Android Police article, they show both JOO92 AND JOP02. Hmmm...sounds like someone realized the build number wasn't right, updated it, and hit the site again. This is total troll material.
Another piece of circumstantial evidence (though it may mean nothing)..."O" is a heretofore unseen branch identifier. We know "R" (like JRO03C, GRJ22, etc) is the release branch. We've also seen T (GTJ61), F (JFN53N), W (HWI69, GWK74), C (ICL53F), M (IML74K), and maybe a few others, but I don't think "O" is one that has been used before. Again, doesn't necessarily mean Google doesn't use it for something, but whatever.
The only point here is that the troll gave himself up with JOO92. Fail. BS.

ekerazha said:
The current Android version for Nexus S (4.1.1) is too much bugged to be the last release. I expect a 4.1.2 or a 4.2 version. Or a Lumia 920.
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I do not think it is "too much bugged", but there is still something not working properly...
As you said, it would not be so much good if JB 4.1.1 is the latest build for our Nexus S...

After just getting a Nexus 7 I'm even more convincing the Nexus S will never see 4.2.. Jellybean is absolutely amazing on high end hardware... Ermagerd! Love my Nexus S but I just had a reality check. :laugh:

styckx said:
After just getting a Nexus 7 I'm even more convincing the Nexus S will never see 4.2.. Jellybean is absolutely amazing on high end hardware... Ermagerd! Love my Nexus S but I just had a reality check. :laugh:
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Yeah, Jelly Bean runs amazingly well on the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 7. It turned the Xoom into a brand new tablet. The Nexus S, not so much. You can tell the hardware has a hard time with it.

styckx said:
After just getting a Nexus 7 I'm even more convincing the Nexus S will never see 4.2.. Jellybean is absolutely amazing on high end hardware... Ermagerd! Love my Nexus S but I just had a reality check. :laugh:
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Realized the same and sold my nexus s and got a gnex
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Can we at least wait until the next update is announced before saying we want it? Or a least shown in some way or another.

I think the ns will get 4.2, maybe a 'light' version, but I think we will get it. But if they release something like 5.0, there's no way
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Most of the rumors I have heard are saying that 4.2 will still be jellybean. Try googling "project roadrunner"
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hlxanthus said:
Most of the rumors I have heard are saying that 4.2 will still be jellybean. Try googling "project roadrunner"
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If the 4.2 is still Jelly Bean, we can still hope we will get it ...

guys, the n1 just lost support with jb, and afaik, the devs even still managed to hack the crap out of it to make it load....I think it'll be a cold day in hell before devs give up on ns since it's still under 2 years old.

hp420 said:
guys, the n1 just lost support with jb
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Incorrect. The Nexus One lost support with Ice Cream Sandwich. The N1's last official OTA from Google was Gingerbread, 2.3.6/GRK39F.
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I think the Nexus S is done, but I'm happy with the two major updates we got (ICS & JB). We've gotta be thankful that the Nexus S/4G got more support over it's lifetime than most manufacturers do with their whole line of phones. :good:

Will Nexus S get 4.2?

I was just reading through tons of news on portals, and I can't find any info about Nexus S or Galaxy Nexus and 4.2 being rolled out. I mean, Google surely has already decided what to do with us.
I mean honestly, I know Cyanogen or AOKP, or hopefully Rasbean will keep updating my favourite phone ever (really, I have never had a phone this awesome. Pioneer of it's price range and specs!) but I want to know if Google still likes their Nexus S.

it cant be that hard, I mean there really isnt anything new.

I wondered how long it would take for a thread title like this would come up..HAHA! :laugh:

Can't see why not, it got 4.1 so should get 4.2 as it's not a huge update. Well, that's my wishful thinking anyway!

Still JB, will get
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Yes, the Nexus S will get 4.2 officially. It will get 5.0 as well, if not officially then by CyanogenMod.

JavaJunkay said:
I was just reading through tons of news on portals, and I can't find any info about Nexus S or Galaxy Nexus and 4.2 being rolled out. I mean, Google surely has already decided what to do with us.
I mean honestly, I know Cyanogen or AOKP, or hopefully Rasbean will keep updating my favourite phone ever (really, I have never had a phone this awesome. Pioneer of it's price range and specs!) but I want to know if Google still likes their Nexus S.
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Question is not will the Nexus S get 4.2 but when As soon as sources come available.

kwbr said:
Question is not will the Nexus S get 4.2 but when As soon as sources come available.
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I'd say ^^ pretty much ends this convo. Right on target.

Nice to hear all that. Nexus S ftw

Why not
Our Nexus S it's untill powerfull...

It better! I just bought a used one yesterday!

I think the chances are pretty good that the NS will get 4.2, but beyond that I'm skeptical. We're coming up on the phone's two-year anniversary for one thing. It's also begun to chug a bit with Jelly Bean, and I doubt the next major update will be any less resource intensive. Between the age and the hardware limitations, I suspect we're in the twilight months of Google support for the Nexus S.

must will get 4.2.... not official no problem :laugh:

this will probably be the last update the Nexus S gets.
Good thing tho, you know most likely that XDA will have some form of port.
I'm getting the Nexus 4 tho!!! my contract is almost up. I might even get it off contract! (AU$400 for 32GB, thats dirt cheap compared to the iPhone 5 which is AU$900! That's less than half the price, for better specs... and android... and build quality is improved dramatically from the previous Nexusesss)

I think it will get 4.2 ... it an incremental upgrade, so anything 'jellybean' we should get
Can't wait to try 4.2
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It will get official 4.2 for sure, but key lime pye will be here only unofficial.
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last year, when I bought my Nexus S, someone told me: "It's a year's old phone.. don't waste your money..."

I'm almost sure for 4.2 ...
I personally think about a Google "3 letters law" for Nexus devices. Nexus One went from E(Eclair) to G(Gingerbread), passing by Frojo, Nexus S will go from G to J passing by ICS, and GNex will "live" from I to L ... Officially speaking, I mean And, of course, I hope there will always be some clever group (like CyanogenMod, for example) or "one man band" who enjoy to develop ROM or kernel for our preferred devices :fingers-crossed:

gfinockio said:
It better! I just bought a used one yesterday!
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You made the right choice .

It remains to be seen if the Nexus S and Xoom will get 4.2 or if 4.1.2 was the last update. We won't know until 4.2 gets released to AOSP. I will say that since they seem to have axed the Honeycomb-style tablet interface from 4.2, the Xoom may be out. As for the Nexus S...historically Google has only maintained support for the current and previous phone generation, which would now be the Nexus 4 and Galaxy Nexus. That said, however, I don't see anything major that would lead me to believe that the Nexus S couldn't run 4.2...unless they tossed out support for capacitive buttons entirely.
Regardless of whether or not there is a stock 4.2 ROM for either device, I'm sure the developers here will have custom ROMs that have it baked in.

[Q] Nexus 5?

Hopefully this is an ok location for this topic. I know previously there were rumors about the possibility of multiple nexus smartphones. Following the 10/29 announcement of the 5, 7, and 10, is this all we should expect? Or is a HTC Nexus 5 based on the Butterfly still something that coudl happen

No. If there was going to be a Nexus 5, it would have been announced with the other devices.

astromanic said:
Hopefully this is an ok location for this topic. I know previously there were rumors about the possibility of multiple nexus smartphones. Following the 10/29 announcement of the 5, 7, and 10, is this all we should expect? Or is a HTC Nexus 5 based on the Butterfly still something that coudl happen
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I think you are dreaming mate!
I think we will have the 4, 7 & 10 until next October when they announce the next Nexus?

I wouldn't bet on it

StuMcBill said:
I think you are dreaming mate!
I think we will have the 4, 7 & 10 until next October when they announce the next Nexus?
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Thanks, I guess it was wishful thinking on my part. Nexus 4 here we go!

I'd put all my money on there not being multiple Nexii. Rumors are rumors.

AwesomeTurtle said:
I'd put all my money on there not being multiple Nexii. Rumors are rumors.
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Actually there were "multiple Nexus devices" this year made by many different manufacturers. It was never assumed that they would all be phones.

ctfrommn said:
Actually there were "multiple Nexus devices" this year made by many different manufacturers. It was never assumed that they would all be phones.
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I guess that got cleared out. Samsung, LG, Asus: 3 new Nexus devices.

I wouldn't expect any new nexus devices until android 5.0....Google never releases a new device without a new software release to power it.

ctfrommn said:
Actually there were "multiple Nexus devices" this year made by many different manufacturers. It was never assumed that they would all be phones.
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D'oh, you're right.
I herped a derp there. Disregard, I have two cats.

gideonMorrison said:
I guess that got cleared out. Samsung, LG, Asus: 3 new Nexus devices.
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Dont forget the ever popular Nexus Q.

Somehow.. launching Android 5 with a Nexus 5.. kinda makes sense

forsakened said:
Somehow.. launching Android 5 with a Nexus 5.. kinda makes sense
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with a 5" display

Red Wolf said:
with a 5" display
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Most definitely. Google's official Phablet

Red Wolf said:
with a 5" display
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And an 5 Core Processor + 5G RAM + 5MPx Cam ( fail?) and iPhone 5 Killer
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They typically release a new Nexus phone every 9-12 months.

10" tablet by samsung
7" tablet by asus
4.7" smartphone by LG
apparently there are supposed to be 5 nexus devices this year.. one of them being HTC based on the butterfly a 5-5.5inch 'phablet' ... and another device by motorola i think
i doubt the last 2 are gonna make an appearance this year

In that Verge video, they did say other manufacturers also tried out to be the company making the Nexus 4, so maybe those prototypes that other companies sent in might have been considered potentially released along with the LG one, but Google decided to only go with one of them.

My gut says if you want a 5" phone, you'll have to snag a Note II and put a custom ROM on it.
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IIRC the rumors of 5 Nexii or so came before IO 2012. So:
1. Nexus 7
2. Nexus 4
3 Nexus 10
4. Nexus Q (even though it wasn't released for long, the rumors said 5 before it didn't do well I believe)
5. 3G Nexus 7? Who knows-- maybe a fifth was cut or the rumors were just rumors.

No lime pie 5.0 for nexus 7

http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...o-Galaxy-Note-8-0-Galaxy-S4-S3-and-few-others.
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i think they are referring to samsung devices only

its a list from samfirmware
about samsung devices only
did you really think only samsung devices would get keylime pie?:silly: :laugh:

No pessimism allowed.
It's a Nexus, and less than a year old at that. Have faith...

pcarenza said:
It's a Nexus, and less than a year old at that. Have faith...
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No pessimism allowed... indeed... and AGREED!
Of course there's going to be a version of KLP for the Nexus 7!
Seems to me to be inevitable.
Not a case of 'if', but 'when' ... which of course, is the metaphorical Six Million Dollar Question.
So, I would recommend people just enjoy whatever ROM/Kernel configuration they currently have installed on this terrific little device... and instead of attempting to gainsay the future... let the future take care of itself - (it usually does, you know).
And when KLP eventually shows up for the N7, (as I'm sure it will, at some point)... we'll enjoy it all the more.
(And this is from a cynical, hardcore pessimist).
Rgrds,
Ged.

i am only basing this on gut instinct but i have a feeling our beloved nexus 7 might not get 5.0

hey mate!! im hoping your right

Its one of many Google babies that have yet to grow up and move on. We will get it, just a matter of time.
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chrisnewton said:
i am only basing this on gut instinct but i have a feeling our beloved nexus 7 might not get 5.0
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It's still well within the life cycle for official updates.
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I'm quite sure that the Nexus 7 will get KLP... If you look at the "Factory Images for Nexus Devices", you can see the other Nexus devices and how long they have been officially updated...

This thread is a waste of time, lock it down.
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I do believe we will get the Android 5.0. First of all, this is a nexus device, google's flagship line of devices. Second, nexus devices will get the latest updates FIRST before any other carriers. And Third, I think that the Nexus 7 has the capacity to run the KLP( I mean its still quad core right?).

Nexus 7 will deffo get KLP.
This is a samsung specific report, they are the devices in samsungs line that will recieve it.
Google isn't going to make KLP and not put it on their own devices.

rwilpstra said:
I'm quite sure that the Nexus 7 will get KLP... If you look at the "Factory Images for Nexus Devices", you can see the other Nexus devices and how long they have been officially updated...
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my nexus 7 and original nexus phone both got jellybean pretty much within a week of release..... and far before my s3

No Android M for Nexus 7 2013?

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/7...xus-7-is-reportedly-not-getting-android-m.htm
Just saw this, not sure if this news is reliable but that would kind of suck..

Far from credible. Honestly if it doesn't come from Google or Android Police don't beleve it. Actually don't even trust Google just AP.
Someone sent us a tip saying “goodbye Nexus 7, no Android M for you”, and they also said they are close to the Android M development...
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Thats the source lol.

I can see maybe the 2012 nexus 7 being dropped from M update.
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Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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The nexus 7 2012 is fine but if google stops updating the 2013 version I'm gonna bust their asses my Xperia Z1 from 2013 even has a chance of getting M...
atm android 5.1.1 still sucks on my N7 so I hoped that M would fix my issues!
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vkk178 said:
Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
Edit: here's the ap article, it looks like we might not get M
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/

godutch said:
They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
Edit: here's the ap article, it looks like we might not get M
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/
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Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .

I'm not very concerned. Even if Google doesn't give us the update, it probably won't be very long before CyanogenMod comes out with it. I'm willing to bet that this tablet continues to get community support for another couple of years.

Without a CM Flo or deb device maintainer I doubt CM based on Android M would appear officially for us. Maybe other ROMs that have flo maintainers/devs will bring Android M to our devices after making 5.1.1 Lollipop binaries and stuff compatible with M
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vkk178 said:
Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .
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The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.

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The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.
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Besides the point you mentioned , Android does have other benefits ... But I was talking more in terms of Nexus devices . If high end devices & Nexus devices (from the google stable) dont get updates for longer , it would be crappy .No point investing in an expensive Nexus device..

If they stopped selling the N7 2013 in October 2014, 18 months of updates would end April 2016 I think.
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2 years after release date
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Despite rumors circulating about the chance of official M for flo, I doubt that it will be left out. After all, Google recently announced monthly updates for a list of nexus devices that includes flo. Even if those updates came only in the form of patches for L, I'm sure unofficial support will be there. Even my old galaxy nexus has unofficially made it to the latest revision of lollipop...

I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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Cor-master said:
I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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Totally agree, 5.1.1 runs smooth on my N7 so I see no reason from a hardware perspective that the N7 shouldn't get M. I think it will be last release so lets hope its a good one.

When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?

dragontology said:
When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?
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M developer preview was available for the nexus 5,6 and 9, unfortunately the nexus 4 didn't make the cut, as you quite rightly said, it was released in 2012, which is a bit more than the two year update garuntee

I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?

djlah said:
I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?
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Marshmallow hasn't been released so there is no AOSP Source made public from Google. ROMs will appear once Android 6.0 and it's Source Code is released (rumored by the end of this month)
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