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So what do you guys think about Ice Cream?

So Google I/O they Announced the new Android update what do you guys think? and do you guys think the update be available for N1 users?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-announces-ice-cream-sadwich-for-q4-2011-for-smartphones/

Yeah, just saw it on Android and Me as well:
http://androidandme.com/2011/05/new..._campaign=Feed:+androidandme+(Android+and+Me)
I'm curious as well..

What I think is it won't come to the Nexus One. Google said that they're aiming for 18 months guaranteed update for a phone, and the Nexus One is conveniently almost at the 18 months mark.

Mokurex said:
What I think is it won't come to the Nexus One. Google said that they're aiming for 18 months guaranteed update for a phone, and the Nexus One is conveniently almost at the 18 months mark.
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I'm actually optimistic about it since they didn't say the minimal specs for Ice cream, Also I'm Sure the Nexus S still supported which specs are not too far apart NS still runs a Single Core

Mokurex said:
What I think is it won't come to the Nexus One. Google said that they're aiming for 18 months guaranteed update for a phone, and the Nexus One is conveniently almost at the 18 months mark.
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I believe that was in referrence to Manufactures and how long they are required to support a device with current updates granting the hardware can handle it.
Google branded devices to my understanding ( they never stated otherwise ) will continue to be updated nexus1 included for many updates to come.
Glad they are merging into just one OS. While we might not like to Admit it .. thats a apple stratedgy to make one OS that fits all, makes updates much easier to manage.
However this is GOOGLE and i am sure they will be do it better than rotten apple.

I don't believe they will spend their time on the N1... I guess we're done with the N1

Hopefully they learned from the "version mess" bad news currently going through the press and "one OS for all" means really for all and every product including the nexus one and other hardware.

decodecoding said:
I don't believe they will spend their time on the N1... I guess we're done with the N1
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That is what I thought in the begging but now I actually think they will for the simple fact N1 was and still is A developer phone and specs still relevant.

Wouldn't surprise me if the Nexus One gets left out of this, it's already been from 2.1 to 2.3. Neither of the 2 previous dev phones have recieved this many updates in the first place.
Lets hope the new nexus device for this year is a phone and not a tablet!

Ice Cream Sandwich is scheduled for a Q4 release and will come with a new Nexus device, dual core or possibly quad core. I just hope its the Galaxy S2 frame, with all the codec support and Gorilla Glass =)
Nexus S will MOST LIKELY get updated as they just released the 4G version on Sprint. Nexus One is similar to the Nexus S bar NFC and FFC. The coupled Hardware Acceleration should make it fly even for a single core old Snapdragon though...
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OJ in Compton said:
Wouldn't surprise me if the Nexus One gets left out of this, it's already been from 2.1 to 2.3. Neither of the 2 previous dev phones have recieved this many updates in the first place.
Lets hope the new nexus device for this year is a phone and not a tablet!
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By Google not releasing Ice Cream to N1 owners would be the whole opposite of what Google is trying to advocate to manufactures & carriers. even if they said a 18 months which I think they should of made it 24 months it would of made more sense to people.

N1 is gonna get that update if NS gets that update, that's for sure.

In the end, I don't care if there is an official release from Google for the N1. Dev's here on XDA will port it over anyway.

garfnodie said:
In the end, I don't care if there is an official release from Google for the N1. Dev's here on XDA will port it over anyway.
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I actually don't mind running stock I just wish I could use setcpu without rooting that would be my dream.

I like all the tweaking options that CM gives you, coupled with the full version of ADW Launcher EX and it's perfect.

IceCream should hopefully make for a cool desert on my N1

Nexus One is the current developer phone. Unless it gets replaced, it will get the update.

GldRush98 said:
Nexus One is the current developer phone. Unless it gets replaced, it will get the update.
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... the nexus S is the current dev phone.

mrxniick said:
... the nexus S is the current dev phone.
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No, the Nexus One is the current developer phone.
http://developer.android.com/index.html
First page, then click Dev Phones. You'll see the HTC Magic and the Nexus One.

mrxniick said:
... the nexus S is the current dev phone.
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Nope, the Nexus S is not a Google Dev Phone. The most recent Google Dev Phone is still the Nexus One and can be purchased by developers from Google directly. The Nexus S is consumer focused, and there's a thread in the Nexus S forum that heavily denounce being called a Dev phone.

No lime pie 5.0 for nexus 7

http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...o-Galaxy-Note-8-0-Galaxy-S4-S3-and-few-others.
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i think they are referring to samsung devices only

its a list from samfirmware
about samsung devices only
did you really think only samsung devices would get keylime pie?:silly: :laugh:

No pessimism allowed.
It's a Nexus, and less than a year old at that. Have faith...

pcarenza said:
It's a Nexus, and less than a year old at that. Have faith...
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No pessimism allowed... indeed... and AGREED!
Of course there's going to be a version of KLP for the Nexus 7!
Seems to me to be inevitable.
Not a case of 'if', but 'when' ... which of course, is the metaphorical Six Million Dollar Question.
So, I would recommend people just enjoy whatever ROM/Kernel configuration they currently have installed on this terrific little device... and instead of attempting to gainsay the future... let the future take care of itself - (it usually does, you know).
And when KLP eventually shows up for the N7, (as I'm sure it will, at some point)... we'll enjoy it all the more.
(And this is from a cynical, hardcore pessimist).
Rgrds,
Ged.

i am only basing this on gut instinct but i have a feeling our beloved nexus 7 might not get 5.0

hey mate!! im hoping your right

Its one of many Google babies that have yet to grow up and move on. We will get it, just a matter of time.
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chrisnewton said:
i am only basing this on gut instinct but i have a feeling our beloved nexus 7 might not get 5.0
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It's still well within the life cycle for official updates.
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I'm quite sure that the Nexus 7 will get KLP... If you look at the "Factory Images for Nexus Devices", you can see the other Nexus devices and how long they have been officially updated...

This thread is a waste of time, lock it down.
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I do believe we will get the Android 5.0. First of all, this is a nexus device, google's flagship line of devices. Second, nexus devices will get the latest updates FIRST before any other carriers. And Third, I think that the Nexus 7 has the capacity to run the KLP( I mean its still quad core right?).

Nexus 7 will deffo get KLP.
This is a samsung specific report, they are the devices in samsungs line that will recieve it.
Google isn't going to make KLP and not put it on their own devices.

rwilpstra said:
I'm quite sure that the Nexus 7 will get KLP... If you look at the "Factory Images for Nexus Devices", you can see the other Nexus devices and how long they have been officially updated...
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my nexus 7 and original nexus phone both got jellybean pretty much within a week of release..... and far before my s3

NEXUS 7-2nd Generation (Nexus 7.2 ) THE NEW NEXUS COMING

I have been waiting for the Nexus 7 2, also referred to Nexus 7.2 aka Nexus 7 HD since the rumours started.
I was very disappointed when in may it wasnot announced as expected. Almost at the end of June, we still have no confirmation
Last week, two Asus devices, the K008 and K009, were discovered listed under Bluetooth SIG and FCC certifications. Although the Asus device isn't confirmed as Google's Nexus 7 2 tablet, the coincidence is a large one. The Nexus tablet is expected to be released to the public in July, and the filing was dated to June.
This is going to be a heck of tablet with excellent features.
Latest rumours are :
Snapdragon 600 quad-core processor
2GB Ram
Android 4.3
Front 1.3 MP camera & 5MP rear camera
1080p resolution
16/32 Gb variants without SD card
LTE support would be added
Price is expected to be 200-250 US dollars.
With all this attraction and everything, I am googling at least ten times a day about new articles written about it.
Anyone has any more to say or waiting as patiently as me ?
I just want to know, is it just me or there are others like me ?
Do post your views and experiences of Nexus 7 !

Yeah im waiting too. Got my missus birthday on the 21st of July and was going to get her a Nexus 7 till i heard about the Nexus 7 2. I will be pissed if it comes out just after i buy another Nexus 7. (I already have one).
Hnk1 said:
I have been waiting for the Nexus 7 2, also referred to Nexus 7.2 aka Nexus 7 HD since the rumours started.
I was very disappointed when in may it wasnot announced as expected. Almost at the end of June, we still have no confirmation
Last week, two Asus devices, the K008 and K009, were discovered listed under Bluetooth SIG and FCC certifications. Although the Asus device isn't confirmed as Google's Nexus 7 2 tablet, the coincidence is a large one. The Nexus tablet is expected to be released to the public in July, and the filing was dated to June.
This is going to be a heck of tablet with excellent features.
Latest rumours are :
Snapdragon 600 quad-core processor
2GB Ram
Android 4.3
Front 1.3 MP camera & 5MP rear camera
1080p resolution
16/32 Gb variants without SD card
LTE support would be added
Price is expected to be 200-250 US dollars.
With all this attraction and everything, I am googling at least ten times a day about new articles written about it.
Anyone has any more to say or waiting as patiently as me ?
I just want to know, is it just me or there are others like me ?
Do post your views and experiences of Nexus 7 !
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Why would you repost this when a mod closed your previous one? We already have a thread for this topic.
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scream4cheese said:
Why would you repost this when a mod closed your previous one? We already have a thread for this topic.
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I deleted it myself as by mistake i posted it twice

Sage said:
Yeah im waiting too. Got my missus birthday on the 21st of July and was going to get her a Nexus 7 till i heard about the Nexus 7 2. I will be pissed if it comes out just after i buy another Nexus 7. (I already have one).
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I guess get her a small and cheap gift and tell her that your major GIFT is on its way. You are just waiting for something to happen !
But I am waiting till end of July, I hope it is released by then or I be travelling without it .....
But my guess is that, It will be in stores before 20th July. ( America companies usually have this strategy to release it before 4th July and this is usually the deadline)

Hnk1 said:
I deleted it myself as by mistake i posted it twice
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What? You're not a mod or an admin so you can't delete anything. Also, just post in the other thread.

[Q] Will Kikat 4.4 be released to Nexus 4?

As above.
I´m quite interrested to get an answer on that question. :laugh:
Thanks!
-Notarmaso

You obviously don't understand the reason of buying a Nexus device. You buy a Nexus device not because of specs but because it runs pure Android and gets updated and supported straight from Google for years to come.
It is one of the sole reasons for owning a Nexus. If Kit-Kat were not to come to the N4 it would ruin everything that the Nexus line stood for.

Notarmaso said:
As above.
I´m quite interrested to get an answer on that question. :laugh:
Thanks!
-Notarmaso
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Yes, GOOGLE NEXUS 4 will be the first device to get the kitkat 4.4 update, provided it is not released with/in Nexus 5.
Press thanks if I helped you. :good:

[email protected] said:
You obviously don't understand the reason of buying a Nexus device. You buy a Nexus device not because of specs but because it runs pure Android and gets updated and supported straight from Google for years to come.
It is one of the sole reasons for owning a Nexus. If Kit-Kat were not to come to the N4 it would ruin everything that the Nexus line stood for.
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I have been a proud owner of my nexus 4 in many month, I know that the nexus would get all updates, but I read 10 Places that it onl y would be released for nexus 5 in october, and that's why I asked in here. Thanks!

No, only for Nexus S.

Logic says that KitKat will be first seen on Nexus 5 on release date, and after that we, nexus 4 owners, will receive it too.
Google would definitely want to show off KK on its new device first. Thats my guess.

Notarmaso said:
I have been a proud owner of my nexus 4 in many month, I know that the nexus would get all updates, but I read 10 Places that it onl y would be released for nexus 5 in october, and that's why I asked in here. Thanks!
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Well that can be correct. No one knows what month it will be released in for the N4. I am sure it will be released first with the N5 and then to the N4 shortly after.
Heck, nothing has even been officially announced yet so no one knows what month anything is being released yet.

Rohit02 said:
Yes, GOOGLE NEXUS 4 will be the first device to get the kitkat 4.4 update, provided it is not released with/in Nexus 5.
Press thanks if I helped you. :good:
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Well I misunderstood something then, I read many different Places that NEXUS 5 would be the first device with Kitkat 4.4
I voted :good:

They won't discontinue the nexus 4 and gnex at the same time
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Notarmaso said:
I have been a proud owner of my nexus 4 in many month, I know that the nexus would get all updates, but I read 10 Places that it onl y would be released for nexus 5 in october, and that's why I asked in here. Thanks!
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What was the reasoning for those statements by those 10 places? Bring a few examples, I want to see how they came up with that. I have heard the opposite, that kitkat will be built so that older and weaker devices could run it also, which is based on one sentence "It's our goal with Android KitKat to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody." - doesnt sound like "its our goal to make it exclusive for the next nexus".

manpildo said:
What was the reasoning for those statements by those 10 places? Bring a few examples, I want to see how they came up with that. I have heard the opposite, that kitkat will be built so that older and weaker devices could run it also, which is based on one sentence "It's our goal with Android KitKat to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody." - doesnt sound like "its our goal to make it exclusive for the next nexus".
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Youtube - Techrader etc.

Notarmaso said:
Youtube - Techrader etc.
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Be concrete. Saying my source is youtube is like saying my source is google.

The Nexus 4 isn't even a year old yet...

kitkat will be released to all nexus 4 besides for yours. yes, goigle is watching you specifically :silly:

No Android M for Nexus 7 2013?

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/7...xus-7-is-reportedly-not-getting-android-m.htm
Just saw this, not sure if this news is reliable but that would kind of suck..

Far from credible. Honestly if it doesn't come from Google or Android Police don't beleve it. Actually don't even trust Google just AP.
Someone sent us a tip saying “goodbye Nexus 7, no Android M for you”, and they also said they are close to the Android M development...
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Thats the source lol.

I can see maybe the 2012 nexus 7 being dropped from M update.
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Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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The nexus 7 2012 is fine but if google stops updating the 2013 version I'm gonna bust their asses my Xperia Z1 from 2013 even has a chance of getting M...
atm android 5.1.1 still sucks on my N7 so I hoped that M would fix my issues!
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vkk178 said:
Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
Edit: here's the ap article, it looks like we might not get M
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/

godutch said:
They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
Edit: here's the ap article, it looks like we might not get M
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/
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Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .

I'm not very concerned. Even if Google doesn't give us the update, it probably won't be very long before CyanogenMod comes out with it. I'm willing to bet that this tablet continues to get community support for another couple of years.

Without a CM Flo or deb device maintainer I doubt CM based on Android M would appear officially for us. Maybe other ROMs that have flo maintainers/devs will bring Android M to our devices after making 5.1.1 Lollipop binaries and stuff compatible with M
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vkk178 said:
Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .
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The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.

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The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.
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Besides the point you mentioned , Android does have other benefits ... But I was talking more in terms of Nexus devices . If high end devices & Nexus devices (from the google stable) dont get updates for longer , it would be crappy .No point investing in an expensive Nexus device..

If they stopped selling the N7 2013 in October 2014, 18 months of updates would end April 2016 I think.
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2 years after release date
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Despite rumors circulating about the chance of official M for flo, I doubt that it will be left out. After all, Google recently announced monthly updates for a list of nexus devices that includes flo. Even if those updates came only in the form of patches for L, I'm sure unofficial support will be there. Even my old galaxy nexus has unofficially made it to the latest revision of lollipop...

I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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Cor-master said:
I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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Totally agree, 5.1.1 runs smooth on my N7 so I see no reason from a hardware perspective that the N7 shouldn't get M. I think it will be last release so lets hope its a good one.

When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?

dragontology said:
When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?
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M developer preview was available for the nexus 5,6 and 9, unfortunately the nexus 4 didn't make the cut, as you quite rightly said, it was released in 2012, which is a bit more than the two year update garuntee

I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?

djlah said:
I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?
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Marshmallow hasn't been released so there is no AOSP Source made public from Google. ROMs will appear once Android 6.0 and it's Source Code is released (rumored by the end of this month)
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