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G1 owners deserve early upgrade eligability for NEXUS ONE

I am feeling the hype of the nexus one, as im sure the rest of you are. It is truely an amazing phone, and i have a feeling it will have a xda following as powerful as the g1 has had. Seeing as though our phones are nearly out of date and close to its limit with android i was looking into buying a nexus one. NEVER would i pay 500 or so dollars for an unlocked phone. I have tmobile, but i have not had my g1 long enough for an upgrade(since last nov). Who else agrees that tmobile should be generous enough to enable us to buy the nexus one under upgrade pricing with a new 2 year agreement. They will be making their money from me, its just not right that we are basically going to be left in the dust.

No, g1 owners dont deserve anything. When you bought a g1 you paid for that phone. You never paid for any future proofing of any sort. This is like saying Windows Users should get every new version of windows free just for using windows.
You paid for a T-Mobile G1 and that is what you received. If you want to upgrade to a new phone you must pay for that new phone. These two phones have nothing to do with each other except that they both run Android. T-Mobile G1 is sold by T-Mobile, and Nexus One is sold by Google, it just happens to support T-Mobile's network.
If you think 529$ is too much just dont buy it, or wait for it to drop in price.

melterx12 said:
No, g1 owners dont deserve anything. When you bought a g1 you paid for that phone. You never paid for any future proofing of any sort. This is like saying Windows Users should get every new version of windows free just for using windows.
You paid for a T-Mobile G1 and that is what you received. If you want to upgrade to a new phone you must pay for that new phone. These two phones have nothing to do with each other except that they both run Android. T-Mobile G1 is sold by T-Mobile, and Nexus One is sold by Google, it just happens to support T-Mobile's network.
If you think 529$ is too much just dont buy it, or wait for it to drop in price.
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If anything, T-Mobile would at least upgrade G1 users to the MyTouch 3G like Rogers is going to upgrade their Dreams to the Magic because they say that it will not be able to upgrade them to 2.1 because of hardware limitations.
Doubtful that T-Mobile would take that hit though.

tazz9690 said:
If anything, T-Mobile would at least upgrade G1 users to the MyTouch 3G like Rogers is going to upgrade their Dreams to the Magic because they say that it will not be able to upgrade them to 2.1 because of hardware limitations.
Doubtful that T-Mobile would take that hit though.
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The only problem with that is the only benefit would be larger space for flashing a rom and wouldn't get the ram upgrade that you'd get if you upgraded to a magic. Unless they mean the 32b magic. Than i guess it would be the same thing. But imo, i'd rather have the keyboard then the extra space that could be solved by apps2sd.
I somewhat regret getting the mt3g.

I understand upgrading from a g1 to mytouch 3g, as they are very similar, but upgrading from a g1 to a n1 is like upgrading from a ford to a ferrari, price-wise.

I like the nexus, dont get me wrong, really seems to be advertised as an outstanding phone. I dont mind paying 500 cash for a phone, I bought my G1 for $450 anyway, but I am weighing my options between the droid and the nexus right now...simply because my number one love for the G1 is the qwerty keyboard, and droid carries that feature on but nexus doesn't.

Klyentel said:
I like the nexus, dont get me wrong, really seems to be advertised as an outstanding phone. I dont mind paying 500 cash for a phone, I bought my G1 for $450 anyway, but I am weighing my options between the droid and the nexus right now...simply because my number one love for the G1 is the qwerty keyboard, and droid carries that feature on but nexus doesn't.
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The droid has one of the worst keyboards I've ever seen on a phone, I don't recommend it
And T-mobile will upgrade you to a nexus. You just have to get out of contract and shell out $200 first

JAguirre1231 said:
The droid has one of the worst keyboards I've ever seen on a phone, I don't recommend it
And T-mobile will upgrade you to a nexus. You just have to get out of contract and shell out $200 first
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yeah so I've heard....guess im just afraid of not being able to adjust to an all touch screen phone...but i know i get 30 days to return if i dont like it so im try the nexus anyway, plus my favorite dev is cooking roms for it, so i gotta give it a go!

Let me clarify..... im am talking about the 2 yr agreement price, i believe it is $179 hell, i'd sign a 3 year agreement for it. I am not asking for ANYTHING free. i know i do not deserve it. just the option to upgrade.

Klyentel said:
I like the nexus, dont get me wrong, really seems to be advertised as an outstanding phone. I dont mind paying 500 cash for a phone, I bought my G1 for $450 anyway, but I am weighing my options between the droid and the nexus right now...simply because my number one love for the G1 is the qwerty keyboard, and droid carries that feature on but nexus doesn't.
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FWIW the Nexus One "enterprise edition" has been rumored to sport a fully qwerty. At that time I imagine they also intend to support both proxies through the browser as well as WPA2 enterprise natively, but I can't say for sure as it's all just smoke right now.

bubsy7 said:
Let me clarify..... im am talking about the 2 yr agreement price, i believe it is $179 hell, i'd sign a 3 year agreement for it. I am not asking for ANYTHING free. i know i do not deserve it. just the option to upgrade.
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yes we know, but fact simply remains that you signed a two-yr contract, a contract that stated how long you had to wait before upgrading...therefore, you must wait that time out....regardless of phone issues, thats with any cell company, T-mobile cant make business being generous, so your topic of this thread is just wishful thinking...but not a bad idea though, cus i agree it would be nice.

Klyentel said:
yes we know, but fact simply remains that you signed a two-yr contract, a contract that stated how long you had to wait before upgrading...therefore, you must wait that time out....regardless of phone issues, thats with any cell company, T-mobile cant make business being generous, so your topic of this thread is just wishful thinking...but not a bad idea though, cus i agree it would be nice.
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That's not true, you signed a contract to stay with them for 2 years. You can upgrade at any time, you just have to pay full price. They subsidize for new or out-of-contract customers to have them with that carrier

JAguirre1231 said:
The droid has one of the worst keyboards I've ever seen on a phone, I don't recommend it
And T-mobile will upgrade you to a nexus. You just have to get out of contract and shell out $200 first
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This is not T-Mobile! FOR THE LAST TIME! THIS PHONE IS SOLD SOLELY BY GOOGLE! Even if you buy it with a T-Mobile contract it will still be unlocked! Google is simply selling this phone with a T-Mobile contract in agreement with T-Mobile!
THE NEXUS ONE IS NOT SOLD BY T-MOBILE AND IS NOT A T-MOBILE PHONE!

Klyentel said:
yeah so I've heard....guess im just afraid of not being able to adjust to an all touch screen phone...but i know i get 30 days to return if i dont like it so im try the nexus anyway, plus my favorite dev is cooking roms for it, so i gotta give it a go!
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14 day return, not 30 days.

melterx12 said:
14 day return, not 30 days.
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oh, my bad, 14 days still enough, i'll probably fall in love the first day

JAguirre1231 said:
That's not true, you signed a contract to stay with them for 2 years. You can upgrade at any time, you just have to pay full price. They subsidize for new or out-of-contract customers to have them with that carrier
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yeah you're right...but who gives a **** about upgrading b4 time if you still goin pay full price...IMO, thats not an upgrade.

melterx12 said:
This is not T-Mobile! FOR THE LAST TIME! THIS PHONE IS SOLD SOLELY BY GOOGLE! Even if you buy it with a T-Mobile contract it will still be unlocked! Google is simply selling this phone with a T-Mobile contract in agreement with T-Mobile!
THE NEXUS ONE IS NOT SOLD BY T-MOBILE AND IS NOT A T-MOBILE PHONE!
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I know this, but T-Mobile is the one who subsidizes it. That is why I said it tht way

in any case, if you subsidize you are paying 80$/month for 2 years for a plan which without the nesxus one costs 60$ a month +180$ upfront!
24 x $20(Amount you are overpaying for the plan) = $480
$480 + $180 = $660
$660 - $530(price of a phone unsubsidized) = $130 OVER PAYED!

melterx12 said:
in any case, if you subsidize you are paying 80$/month for 2 years for a plan which without the nesxus one costs 60$ a month +180$ upfront!
24 x $20(Amount you are overpaying for the plan) = $480
$480 + $180 = $660
$660 - $530(price of a phone unsubsidized) = $130 OVER PAYED!
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Very true indeed...bravo. That being said people..just buy the dam phone unlocked from google...you have the option to shop carriers for the best priced plan. If you dont have $529, there is word that was discovered, hold on let me see can i find it......
Ah! here it is! its called SAVE

Klyentel said:
Very true indeed...bravo. That being said people..just buy the dam phone unlocked from google...you have the option to shop carriers for the best priced plan. If you dont have $529, there is word that was discovered, hold on let me see can i find it......
Ah! here it is! its called SAVE
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Subsidizing phones is just to make it more affordable for people who doesn't have the cash on hand. It's kind of like when you get a loan for a car. Most people won't have all the money for the car so they get a bank loan. When you get the loan you'll be charged interest until you've payed the car off. that extra $130 you are "overcharged" is just interest, in this situation.

Cancellation of TMO

Guys I just wanted to give you a forewarning about T-Mobile's business practices.
I apologize if anyone takes offense but I am simply posting my experience with T-Mobile. I understand I signed a 2 year contract but where I am moving I have horrible service and I am not asking for a sympathy boat either, but if you don't agree with the way T-Mobile handled this, please feel free to upvote this.
tl;dr - T-Mobile's map shows 4+ bars where I'm moving; we (my fiancee and I) get 2... outside and that doesn't include the many dropped calls we get either. I never got a dropped call until I went to the new location. I have to pay $300 in cancellation fees because they wouldn't budge because their map is supposedly "right."
http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/b5php/tmobile_trying_to_screw_over_their_own_customer/
If you guys are willing, please upvote. I'd really appreciate it.

Once your locked in....its pretty hard to get out.

Yeah I'm seeing that now. I honestly loved the service, but now that I am moving, it's no good to me.

Contracts blow. Stupidest thing you can ever do is lock yourself into a phone contract, especially when there is the possibility of moving, and the FACT that in a few months, some OTHER carrier will probably offer a better deal. Might as well avail yourself to the chance!
It is ALWAYS better to buy your phone outright.
Note: I suspect that eventually, the US carriers will be forced out of their contract practices.... we in CANADA even already have a new NATIONAL carrier that DOES NOT OFFER contracts.

I've never understood contracts personally, I hate being tied into anything just because they give you a sparkly new phone. That's why I'm thankful T-mobile have 30 day rolling sim only deals, I can get huge discounts after a year on a newer phone upgrade, get 350 minutes (any network) unlimited text and free unlimited internet (thank you rewards) for £15 a month and can walk away with only 30 days notice anytime.
Thank god for the sim only plan

thats why you get used phones and no contract.. plus being on an employee plan is always nice

You don't need to get a used phone... the carrier will still sell you the phone without contract, just at the "full price". You can also buy your phone from a STORE rather than from the carrier.
Note: The way the contract works, you end up actually paying SIGNIFICANTLY MORE for the phone through the contract than just buying the thing from a store for full price.

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You don't need to get a used phone... the carrier will still sell you the phone without contract, just at the "full price". You can also buy your phone from a STORE rather than from the carrier.
Note: The way the contract works, you end up actually paying SIGNIFICANTLY MORE for the phone through the contract than just buying the thing from a store for full price.
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The problem is that the full price of these devices is quite high. A lot of people can only afford a decent phone by getting the contract.
Another problem I had when looking at the g1 initially was a lack of good data plans on non-contract deals.

The people that are telling you it's cheaper to buy your phone outright... this really isn't the case for the G1. At launch, I purchased my G1 for $179 in 2 year contract. Unlocked would have cost $399. I needed phone service regardless, so the fact that I was paying for service is moot.
Now, when I moved, I knew I wasn't going to still get service, and didn't want to stick with T-Mobile. So I paid the $200 to get out of contract. That brings the total cost of the phone up to $379. That's pretty damn close to the $399 price point I would have paid for an unlocked phone from the start .
To the OP, your only real choice is to live with it or pay the termination fees. Read every contract you sign carefully. Service outage isn't a reason to break the contract. It sucks, but that's US carriers for you.

I appreciate all of the responses but again, why pay for a service I cannot use? I had no intention of moving until after the contract; things changed, so I had no option. I'll just be glad when contracts like this are over with worldwide; cell phones could get away with murder if they wanted to. BLEH I say, haha.
We will see how things turn out with the FCC and FTC. Maybe my complaint will push them over the barrier and stop advertising fake signal readings? Roughly 5 phones report all the same exact thing, but their map is always right apparently.
BBB will probably just tell me to deal with it, so we will see on that too.
Again, thanks guys.

esmith972 said:
I appreciate all of the responses but again, why pay for a service I cannot use? I had no intention of moving until after the contract; things changed, so I had no option. I'll just be glad when contracts like this are over with worldwide; cell phones could get away with murder if they wanted to. BLEH I say, haha.
We will see how things turn out with the FCC and FTC. Maybe my complaint will push them over the barrier and stop advertising fake signal readings? Roughly 5 phones report all the same exact thing, but their map is always right apparently.
BBB will probably just tell me to deal with it, so we will see on that too.
Again, thanks guys.
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have you upgraded your radio ?
have you tried using EDGE instead ?
you seem more upset with the contract than the service, and one of those two might help things.
if you're at 2 bars with edge, ya, that's pretty bad. 2 on 3g is about average to bounce around at from my experience. 2 - 4 on 3g can mean a person standing between me and the tower.
good luck

That's why I hate contracts. You get a $600 phone for $150, but you're stuck with it for 2 years. And you envy evr1 who gets a new phone while you're stuck with yours and then in 2 years when you get a settle phone, a new one comes out a month later.

Just as an update, T-Mobile received my complaint from the FCC and took the charges off immediately. I'm only left with the last monthly bill.
Goes to show they do care about you... a little.

So how exactly did you get FCC to contact T-mobile, you write them a letter, eh?

The squeakiest wheel gets the oil.

Good to hear it mate . Generally they won't budge as far as cancellation fees, from my experience.

Atrix for $199 or wait for a different phone?

Hi, I am new around here. Been lurking around for a little while.
I recently lost my iPhone 3Gs so I have been looking around to replace it with an Android phone bc I am kinda bored of iOS.
I dont have an upgrade til at the end of the year so I decided to call the customer relations and see if they can work out something for me. I remember reading in a "how much did you get your atrix for?" thread where the guy said he was leaving unless they gave him a killer deal and got his for $130 +$180 in credit and no renewal of contract which is hard for me to believe. I tried and the best they gave me was $199 with extension.
I am having a hard time deciding whether to move to verizon or t-mobile but they dont have any phones that i am interested in at the moment although it seems like there will be some interesting phones on the way soon.
but I need a smartphone again ASAP bc the 'dumbphone' is makin me feel dumb.
Would it be worth it to try to hustle them a bit more for a better deal or just move on to a different network? I thought they'd give me a better deal since i been with them for a decade now but i do think $199 for the atrix is still pretty reasonable. It is just that I can always use a better deal.
Sorry if this thread is pointless but any input will be appreciated. Thanks.

$199 for an Atrix off-contract is a killer price considering that you can still take your business elsewhere and get at least $400 on ebay for the Atrix if you decide to move.

that's a great deal! go for it, you'll love the atrix

awesome deal
worst case u can still sell it on craigslist for 450+ and u are not in a contract

Honestly... I'd hold off for another month or so and wait for the SGS2. The atrix is a good phone. I jumped on this bandwagon a little early and regret it; I'm waiting for the SGS2 international (I-9100) and jumping ship as soon as it's out.
Don't get me wrong though - if you're not a tinkerer then this is a great phone. And coming from an iphone I assume you don't care about the phone being locked up seeing as how that's Apples M.O. It could be a good phone for you but personally, I want to customize it more than I'm currently able to.

alphamancer said:
Honestly... I'd hold off for another month or so and wait for the SGS2. The atrix is a good phone. I jumped on this bandwagon a little early and regret it; I'm waiting for the SGS2 international (I-9100) and jumping ship as soon as it's out.
Don't get me wrong though - if you're not a tinkerer then this is a great phone. And coming from an iphone I assume you don't care about the phone being locked up seeing as how that's Apples M.O. It could be a good phone for you but personally, I want to customize it more than I'm currently able to.
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Isn't the SGS2 International like $950 off contract lol.

Yep that's a great deal!!!
It is great phone and hopefully in couple months or sooner the boot loader will get crack which im hopping for it because that will unlock tons more enjoyment from it and with the docks imagine what you can do with those. And even Motorola might even release something or unlock the boot loader when they see sales going down because everyone wants too unlock the full potential of this device!!
I got the atrix laptop dock also which is pretty nice but it just needs a bit more speed.

I tried and the best they gave me was $199 with extension.
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So I read this as, $199 for a 2 year contract (EXTENSION)..
That's the same as everyone else.. How is that a good deal?

you can get atrix for 119 in costco.
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i was about to say the same thing
i was about to say the same thing. bought it few days ago for $120. The good thing is if I dont like the phone I can return it within 90 days without any charges and if something good comes by then (lets say Iphone 5,6 or whtever)..all I have to pay is the difference which is $80...

the price is with contract extension so basically the same price anyone can get. I just said that they would give me the contract/upgrade price now instead of waiting until the end of the year when I will be "eligible" for an upgrade. My bad for the misunderstanding. I'm not sure if I will be able to get the costco price since I can't get it for $199 even from the corporate store. As far as i know, AT&T will only allow me to get it at a discounted price through the customer relations department.
I guess I'll try if I can have the customer relations put a note on my account so that any at&t carrier can see my eligibility.

Hell, you should just buy it outright for the price; if you don't like it you can just sell it for 400+.
The phone is great though, I only took mine back because of the locked bootloader, the galaxy s 2 is coming out, and I just got bored with it.

Amazon's web store has it for $149. You'll lose your unlimited data plan if you have one, but I read that if you badger them enough they'll give it back to you.
That's what I'm going to try anyway!

do you mean if you get it from amazon?

Yes, they force you to change your data plan. Last night I found out you can also get that price at Radioshack, but I don't know if the data plan hassle remains.

moktarino said:
Yes, they force you to change your data plan. Last night I found out you can also get that price at Radioshack, but I don't know if the data plan hassle remains.
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I bought mines from radioshack and yes i was forced to convert to one of their new DATA plans, After the changes were done i called up at&t to have my unlimited databack. They submitted a case to their so called "BUFU dept" and they switched my unlimited back in 3 days.
Keep in mind i called before the changes and confirmed that they will put back my data plan

Got mine at Radio Shack for $149. No hassle at all with data plan or setup. Took less time than it typically does at an ATT store.

T-Mobile Jump! Cancel

Merry Christmas!
Hey guys, I've been thinking about canceling my Jump! service, I just do not see the benefit beside protecting you device. I just want to see who have it, and why you want to keep it. Or those that do not have it and why you didn't bother signing up.

I have it and my carrier insurance actually dropped 2 dollars a month so I figured, why not? I do like it though. Out allows me to continually get new phones. I tend to get board with a phone to a degree after a year or so. For me it's pretty good. You just have to get over the fact if you keep jumping, you'll never really own a phone. Sort of leasing a phone.
Merry Christmas

I'm very fortunate to have the opportunity to switch to a new phone every year, so I thought JUMP! makes sense. The insurance and Lookout Premium is a nice addition.

I been paying into jump for me and my wife since it started. Just upgraded both of us 2 weeks ago to two note 4's. In 6 months Samsung will have new phones with Playstation Now. I saw an aluminum billet cut out of a new Samsung phone, kinda curious to see what the final product looks like and how the Playstation Now runs on it. If I like I will wait for unboxing youtube video and maybe I jump.
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I use mine for insurance purposes only, I end up buying phones every 4 months or so, so basically the upgrading isn't worth doing for me, plus its a waste money to lease a phone and not pay it off imo.

It all depends and it's all in the numbers. It's a number game. If you have it only for insurance, do keep in mind that there's a deductible. For a high end phone like the Note 4, it's like $175 or something. If you're using it to upgrade, make sure your phones not almost paid off or it won't be worth it lol. Or if you're required to put down a big deposit, jump isn't worth it. Do the math. Crunch the numbers...

Well I have the first JUMP package that was released (grandfathered in). I love it because it lets me upgrade every 6 months. I get bored of devices pretty quick, especially with all of the devices that get released. Best thing to ever happen to a carrier.
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I also have the first JUMP package. It's pretty great deal.

If u have jump 1 keep it if you have jump 2 get rid of it. Not worth it for 2 if you swap out phones a lot
BAD ASS NOTE 4

Can you please elaborate. I felt the Jump 2 was just an enhanced version of Jump 1 (Jump 2 just allows you to upgrade whenever you want). Jump 1 allows maximum 2 upgrade a year.
I feel the Jump is worth it if you are upgrading your devices every 6 months, based on my rough calculations.
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If u have jump 1 keep it if you have jump 2 get rid of it. Not worth it for 2 if you swap out phones a lot
BAD ASS NOTE 4
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winlinmac001 said:
Can you please elaborate. I felt the Jump 2 was just an enhanced version of Jump 1 (Jump 2 just allows you to upgrade whenever you want). Jump 1 allows maximum 2 upgrade a year.
I feel the Jump is worth it if you are upgrading your devices every 6 months, based on my rough calculations.
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If you are on payment plans you must pay off device by 50% if you wanna jump. With jump 1 it 6 months no matter how much you owe.
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Wow, T-Mobile rep explained me Jump 1 way differently, stating that half the device value would still need to be paid, lol. However, from the way you describe it, Jump 1 would have certainly been better in this case. The T-Mo rep also stated that customers can choose between Jump 1 or Jump 2, I call that BS.
Even paying 50% of the device is still worth it (whether you wait one year or 6 months) because every non-Apple device depreciates fast.
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If u have jump 1 keep it if you have jump 2 get rid of it. Not worth it for 2 if you swap out phones a lot
BAD ASS NOTE 4
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BACARDILIMON said:
If you are on payment plans you must pay off device by 50% if you wanna jump. With jump 1 it 6 months no matter how much you owe.
BAD ASS NOTE 4
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winlinmac001 said:
Wow, T-Mobile rep explained me Jump 1 way differently, stating that half the device value would still need to be paid, lol. However, from the way you describe it, Jump 1 would have certainly been better in this case. The T-Mo rep also stated that customers can choose between Jump 1 or Jump 2, I call that BS.
Even paying 50% of the device is still worth it (whether you wait one year or 6 months) because every non-Apple device depreciates fast.
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They lied to you. You can't choose jump 1 is only for people grandfathered in. Jump 2 just sucks once you had jump 1
BAD ASS NOTE 4

I agree. Seems like T-Mobile being a true carrier once again (or were they always; like they give a sh!t).
So, if I was a T-Mobile customer a year ago, and chose Jump 1 then, it would have been worth it.
Once you upgrade with Jump 1, customers are required to continue with Jump 2 or simply remove Jump from their account.
T-Mobile is slowly giving us chills. Lets see what they reveal to us next year; will they stick to their plans for the better? #CoverageMyA$$
I'm really looking forward to a bright future for T-Mobile. Better not be one of those companies that fall bankrupt after a major flop. Do they even have the integrity? Can they sustain their building reputation? Who knows...
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They lied to you. You can't choose jump 1 is only for people grandfathered in. Jump 2 just sucks once you had jump 1
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Once you upgrade with Jump 1, customers are required to continue with Jump 2 or simply remove Jump from their account.
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This is not true. If this happened to you then some sneaky rep in the store must have switched you. I just upgraded this week. I am still on jump 1. I even called them before I left the store to verify. The ONLY way you lose Jump 1 is by 1) Switching to Jump #2 or 2) Leaving T-Mobile then coming back. Thats it. Also when I log into tmobile it says I can jump NOW. That would not be possible on jump 2

Well, I never said T-Mobile was a good company anyway. Most of their store clerks are unprofessional, arrogant, and ignorant anyway. The other day, a female customer lost all her text messages on the phone as it was erased by the store rep without authorization by her; no backup to be found. T-Mobile should wake up; their Uncarrier move isn't all that great as I once thought. I don't mind the changes between Jump 1 and Jump 2, as I do understand in the corporate world, it all about profits and gain; T-Mobile would have suffered major loss had they adhered to the Jump 1 stands for long.
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This is not true. If this happened to you then some sneaky rep in the store must have switched you. I just upgraded this week. I am still on jump 1. I even called them before I left the store to verify. The ONLY way you lose Jump 1 is by 1) Switching to Jump #2 or 2) Leaving T-Mobile then coming back. Thats it. Also when I log into tmobile it says I can jump NOW. That would not be possible on jump 2
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Well, I never said T-Mobile was a good company anyway. Most of their store clerks are unprofessional, arrogant, and ignorant anyway. The other day, a female customer lost all her text messages on the phone as it was erased by the store rep without authorization by her; no backup to be found. T-Mobile should wake up; their Uncarrier move isn't all that great as I once thought. I don't mind the changes between Jump 1 and Jump 2, as I do understand in the corporate world, it all about profits and gain; T-Mobile would have suffered major loss had they adhered to the Jump 1 stands for long.
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My phone is my internet. I tether it. To do so and not have an outrageous bill you need two things.
1) Rooted phone
2) Unlimited data
So until another company offers unlimited data? They are the best around imo. They are also the only company I can go from the US to London on and still use my phone. Changing nothing. They are actually one of the best carriers. But if you want to keep paying over 100$ a month stay with one of the other guys... I pay 92 a month INCLUDING my note 4 payment. Unlimited everything including data. Due to T-mobiles high speeds my phone is my home internet.
PS> I have seen more retards at Verizon stores than anywhere. Maybe its just the stores where you live have a crappy regional manager? Ever think of that?

Well, I'm sure I must have went to a well reputable Verizon store then. T-Mobile's phone reps never seem to be updated or clear regarding their own policies, nor do they even understand their latest uncarrier moves. Ask them a question (even if you already know the answer) and you'll get a distorted answer from them. I've been to some T-Mobile stores where the reps were courteous, professional, and knew what they were selling, but the odds for encountering a carrier store like that are low for the most part. Its the tele-representatives I'm referring to. I only switched to T-Mobile due to the value of service I'd be getting, nothing to do with coverage.
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My phone is my internet. I tether it. To do so and not have an outrageous bill you need two things.
1) Rooted phone
2) Unlimited data
So until another company offers unlimited data? They are the best around imo. They are also the only company I can go from the US to London on and still use my phone. Changing nothing. They are actually one of the best carriers. But if you want to keep paying over 100$ a month stay with one of the other guys... I pay 92 a month INCLUDING my note 4 payment. Unlimited everything including data. Due to T-mobiles high speeds my phone is my home internet.
PS> I have seen more retards at Verizon stores than anywhere. Maybe its just the stores where you live have a crappy regional manager? Ever think of that?
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I have it and my carrier insurance actually dropped 2 dollars a month so I figured, why not? I do like it though. Out allows me to continually get new phones. I tend to get board with a phone to a degree after a year or so. For me it's pretty good. You just have to get over the fact if you keep jumping, you'll never really own a phone. Sort of leasing a phone.
Merry Christmas
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You may be able to Jump to a new phone after a year or after the device is half way paid off but you have to trade it in . If you do the math you are losing money 2 ways. A year from now you can sell your phone outright for more than $400 easily . That being said 1 year from now you will have half your device paid off if you are doing the 2 year finance . So that means Tmobile is giving $330 Tops for your phone when you Jump. You can just sell your phone for anything more than $330 ( which is very easy) and put it towards a new device . When I was gonna Jump from my S5 to the note 4 they were only giving me $320 cause that is what I owed on it. I sold it for $425 and paid off the S5 and put the extra $105 towards my Note 4 . Unless you are on the old Jump then it is not worth it cause they pay you less than market value for an easy to sell phone.
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Mavman42 said:
Merry Christmas!
Hey guys, I've been thinking about canceling my Jump! service, I just do not see the benefit beside protecting you device. I just want to see who have it, and why you want to keep it. Or those that do not have it and why you didn't bother signing up.
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In order to Jump you have to have half your device paid off . If you just bought a Note 4 now then in a year from now you will only owe $330 or so . So Tmobile is gonna give you $330 for a phone you could easily sell a year from now for over $400 . Keep your insurance , dump jump and put the $24 you save in a year for not having it plus the $400+ you can sell your Note 4 for and pay off your device when you want to Jump and put the extra $100 or so you have left towards your new phone. Put it this way even if you only get $350 for your Note 4 ( which would be on the very low end) you would still be coming out ahead. Why trade in an easy to sell device when you can sell it yourself ?No doubt about it that you are getting screwed by TMO when you pay for Jump . If you are on the Old Jump please disregard this message. the old Jump is worth it. Tmobile may still ask you to put a deposit on your new phone when you decide to jump . All jump does is pay off the remaing balance on your phone. Tmobile will still run a credit check when you get a new device.Just do the math and you will see why Jump is a Scam . Numbers don't lie put Big Business does. Anything they can to squeeze a few more dollars out of you a month.

I think its just a matter of convenience and peace of mind now with Jump 2. The fact that you don't need to worry about paying shipping and insurance and seller fees, etc when selling the phone to the second owner.
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You may be able to Jump to a new phone after a year or after the device is half way paid off but you have to trade it in . If you do the math you are losing money 2 ways. A year from now you can sell your phone outright for more than $400 easily . That being said 1 year from now you will have half your device paid off if you are doing the 2 year finance . So that means Tmobile is giving $330 Tops for your phone when you Jump. You can just sell your phone for anything more than $330 ( which is very easy) and put it towards a new device . When I was gonna Jump from my S5 to the note 4 they were only giving me $320 cause that is what I owed on it. I sold it for $425 and paid off the S5 and put the extra $105 towards my Note 4 . Unless you are on the old Jump then it is not worth it cause they pay you less than market value for an easy to sell phone.
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In order to Jump you have to have half your device paid off . If you just bought a Note 4 now then in a year from now you will only owe $330 or so . So Tmobile is gonna give you $330 for a phone you could easily sell a year from now for over $400 . Keep your insurance , dump jump and put the $24 you save in a year for not having it plus the $400+ you can sell your Note 4 for and pay off your device when you want to Jump and put the extra $100 or so you have left towards your new phone. Put it this way even if you only get $350 for your Note 4 ( which would be on the very low end) you would still be coming out ahead. Why trade in an easy to sell device when you can sell it yourself ?No doubt about it that you are getting screwed by TMO when you pay for Jump . If you are on the Old Jump please disregard this message. the old Jump is worth it. Tmobile may still ask you to put a deposit on your new phone when you decide to jump . All jump does is pay off the remaing balance on your phone. Tmobile will still run a credit check when you get a new device.Just do the math and you will see why Jump is a Scam . Numbers don't lie put Big Business does. Anything they can to squeeze a few more dollars out of you a month.
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LG G4 T-Mobile users...

Are you feeling like LG got one over on you? With the new T-Mobile jump program introduced today you can now jump 3 times a year, no cost. Badass.

Not in the least. I hated the Note 4, think the S6 looks like a larger iPhone6, could never deal with the underwhelming camera on the m9, and frankly would never own another iPhone. That didn't leave me with many options when I got to the point where my options were 1) I was going to use JUMP to get away from my Note 4 or 2) I was going to throw my Note 4 at the wall.
So far, I love the G4.

You're basically paying the same amount of money, but you no longer have phone insurance.

ummm...I have phone insurance with Jump...it's included, but I don't care to be able to upgrade early at no cost. I will pay my phone off early & have my bill back down to where it used to be.

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You're basically paying the same amount of money, but you no longer have phone insurance.
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If you're already active in the existing "JUMP" program, you don't lose that. It's only on new one. I guess I'm glad I have the older JUMP.

Th3Bill said:
If you're already active in the existing "JUMP" program, you don't lose that. It's only on new one. I guess I'm glad I have the older JUMP.
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If you're already an existing JUMP user, you don't get to JUMP On Demand. You have to pay off your phone and then sign up with JUMP On Demand with your new phone. Which will no longer have insurance unless you want to pay an extra $8/mo.
If JUMP On Demand included insurance or at least let current JUMP members switch to it right away, it might be a bit more appealing. As is, meh. I'll pass.

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If you're already an existing JUMP user, you don't get to JUMP On Demand. You have to pay off your phone and then sign up with JUMP On Demand with your new phone. Which will no longer have insurance unless you want to pay an extra $8/mo.
If JUMP On Demand included insurance or at least let current JUMP members switch to it right away, it might be a bit more appealing. As is, meh. I'll pass.
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Exactly. I feel the same way...having existing JUMP, I don't feel like paying off my new phone I got 2 weeks ago. Besides, I doubt I'll be upgrading from this device this calendar year. I'll stick it till 2016 and see what everyone brings to next year's party

I'm a new t-mobile customer as of this phone. What exactly am I missing out on with the new jump program? I think I'm still within my 2 week period and can make the change still. What's the benefit?
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boynamedstacy said:
I'm a new t-mobile customer as of this phone. What exactly am I missing out on with the new jump program? I think I'm still within my 2 week period and can make the change still. What's the benefit?
Sent from my G4 whilst wishing for root
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Nothing...smoke and mirrors. It's actually a reduced version of the old JUMP program. You lose the device protection, but can JUMP 3 times a year or something. Same price tho...10 bucks. Better off on old plan if you have it

boynamedstacy said:
I'm a new t-mobile customer as of this phone. What exactly am I missing out on with the new jump program? I think I'm still within my 2 week period and can make the change still. What's the benefit?
Sent from my G4 whilst wishing for root
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My 2 week period is over Saturday, im considering returning it and rebuying with the new JUMP.
I always envied JUMP1 and hated everything about JUMP2. JUMP3 is every bit as good as JUMP1 with the option to waive the $10 fee if you feel you can do without insurance.
I challenge anyone on JUMP1 explain how it's better than JUMP3?
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shook187 said:
My 2 week period is over Saturday, im considering returning it and rebuying with the new JUMP.
I always envied JUMP1 and hated everything about JUMP2. JUMP3 is every bit as good as JUMP1 with the option to waive the $10 fee if you feel you can do without insurance.
I challenge anyone on JUMP1 explain how it's better than JUMP3?
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Now after reading further, I understand your point.
Truth be told, JUMP 2 (which I'm currently on) is really a bit of a ripoff. I am not clumsy with my device, so I don't need the protection, I don't use Lookout, as I find it just alerts me to every site I am going to as being "safe. And then comes the "Jump" I did to get the G4. I had a Note 4. Owed right about $600. I pd $280 to bring device to half price (after paying $10/month for the 6 months I had the phone). So, $340 out of pocket. I could have sold phone on swappa for $450-500, costing me $100-150 to pay off the phone out of pocket. #IntelligenceFail.
Looks like I'll be cancelling my JUMP 2 program LOL.
So, LG didn't get one over on me....T-Mobile did....DOH!

Was going to get the G4 the other day from T-mobile, but will wait to get it with On Demand. It's the same cost as EIP and there is no $10 fee like regular JUMP. Set myself up to use On Demand in a few months for the rumored LG Pro G4.
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Each time you upgrade, you have to put money down again, and the money you put down previously, doesn't roll over to the next phone you get, so it doesn't seem worth it to upgrade that much, unless you have great credit, and don't have to put anything down each time, Im almost done paying off my G3, after that, I may get the G4, or wait until fall and get the G4 pro, or whatever it'll be called,.

boynamedstacy said:
My 2 week period is over Saturday, im considering returning it and rebuying with the new JUMP.
I'm a new t-mobile customer as of this phone. What exactly am I missing out on with the new jump program? I think I'm still within my 2 week period and can make the change still. What's the benefit?
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You don't have to take it back if you're still in your grace period.
Just call them up and have them add Jump On Demand or switch from Jump to Jump on Demand. I did this yesterday.

vansmack said:
You don't have to take it back if you're still in your grace period.
Just call them up and have them add Jump On Demand or switch from Jump to Jump on Demand. I did this yesterday.
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Call the store or 611? I thought its only currently available in stores only starting Sunday?
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shook187 said:
Call the store or 611? I thought its only currently available in stores only starting Sunday?
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Call 611. I purchased my G4 online....

Just FYI, i was told by a salesperson that if you have the original JUMP, NEVER<EVER<EVER<EVER change it, no matter the wording of anything new that comes out,the original JUMP the best plan they will have now or in the future. Just what a T-Mobile sales rep told me. This was prior to this new plan, but if you are an original JUMP member i would think twice before changing, just research it well and make sure its the right choice.

I'm impressed he could see the future. I'd ask him for stock tips too....
No plan is prefect for everybody - research is always good but a blanket statement like that with no idea what the future holds is a little naive.
I was on the fence about leaving the Nexus line when I went to the G4 so I added Jump. This new leasing plan is simply a better piece of mind plan for the next 6 months as the new Moto X, rumored LG G4 Pro and the next Nexus are announced. I'm happy to lease phone(s) for the next 6 months and sort it all out then....that't the beauty of t-mo. I can always opt out and purchase outright.

vansmack said:
You don't have to take it back if you're still in your grace period.
Just call them up and have them add Jump On Demand or switch from Jump to Jump on Demand. I did this yesterday.
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are you sure about this? I was told I have to go in store. Bought in store and only retail stores have this ?

willjohnson said:
Just FYI, i was told by a salesperson that if you have the original JUMP, NEVER<EVER<EVER<EVER change it, no matter the wording of anything new that comes out,the original JUMP the best plan they will have now or in the future. Just what a T-Mobile sales rep told me. This was prior to this new plan, but if you are an original JUMP member i would think twice before changing, just research it well and make sure its the right choice.
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It makes no sense... If you're "never never never never change it" then are you even jumping?
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