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Sprint Has No Sense of Humor (Won't Let Me Upgrade Early)

I have the Hero and like everyone else here am drooling over the Evo. Can't upgrade till October though, but it didn't hurt to ask for a little exception from the CEO himself.
Here's a link to my story of trying to upgrade early:
http://bit.ly/gtevo4g
EDIT: Bottom line, if you're not eligible for upgrade, you're not getting an upgrade price. No exceptions. But, they're willing to buy your phone back for about $80 if it's a Hero.

TommyNY said:
But, they're willing to buy your phone back for about $80 if it's a Hero.
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Or you could sell it on eBay for $200 buy-it-now and purchase the Evo retail ($450-200 = $250)
Not much more than a new contract price!

A_Guy71 said:
Or you could sell it on eBay for $200 buy-it-now and purchase the Evo retail ($450-200 = $250)
Not much more than a new contract price!
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... interesting...
I hadn't even thought of that. Although I seriously doubt anyone would pay $200 for a used hero but if so mine is still pristine.
Thanks for the suggestion.

I'm not up for an upgrade till February so for the time being i love my hero and have no complaints except one. Why if ur making a phone would u put only a few hundred mb internal memory on it. I mean i can buy a flash drive for 5 or 10 bucks and it be 4 to 8 gigs. Kinda retarded if u ask me. That and keyboard lag.
Back on subject...if I really wanted to go to evo I'm sure I could call sprint and convince them. I've been with them for 13 years and it's always worked in the past if u threaten to go to metro pcs. I'm sure my account has some interesting notes in it cause I always get my way. Ill debate them until they get tired of me. Morons lmao

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Or you could sell it on eBay for $200 buy-it-now and purchase the Evo retail ($450-200 = $250)
Not much more than a new contract price!
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Your lucky if you get $100 for the hero now. Im not due for an upgrade until november and im sure by then there will be a better phone out than the evo. It's an endless cycle.

nebenezer said:
... interesting...
I hadn't even thought of that. Although I seriously doubt anyone would pay $200 for a used hero but if so mine is still pristine.
Thanks for the suggestion.
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I've read various users on here selling their's for $200 BIN, although this was probably a little less than a month ago. With the ever-looming release of the Evo, this may have gone down..Although I wouldn't assume you would get any less than $150, especially since Best Buy is offering $211 (Last I checked) store credit for it.
Personally, I love my Hero. Running Fresh Toast, I benchmark only 1 mflop less than an N1 with 2.1...Perfectly acceptable to me. I'll pass on the Evo and see what comes after

TommyNY said:
I have the Hero and like everyone else here am drooling over the Evo. Can't upgrade till October though, but it didn't hurt to ask for a little exception from the CEO himself.
Here's a link to my story of trying to upgrade early:
http://bit.ly/gtevo4g
EDIT: Bottom line, if you're not eligible for upgrade, you're not getting an upgrade price. No exceptions. But, they're willing to buy your phone back for about $80 if it's a Hero.
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I had a similiar issue about moving the upgrade date up, but I was only asking for a month. It took 3 calls and me talking to a supervisor to get them to give me the early upgrade. I think it helped that I was only 5 months away from being with them for 10 years. Either way, it was a real big hassle and we almost told them to stick it......But I held me ground and we did get the ealry upgrade. Ended up betting 2 heros for $99

markus_del_marko said:
Your lucky if you get $100 for the hero now. Im not due for an upgrade until november and im sure by then there will be a better phone out than the evo. It's an endless cycle.
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Yes!! Dual-Core 1.5GHz Snapdragon phones!!! I may just hold out for these. Supposedly the first ones are due out by the end of this year. Contract upgrade time baby!

So sad that I am second guessing the EVO now. I love Top Of The Line stuff, but sadly with cell phones they get snuffed out quickly.
I think my problem is too many addicitions to spread my money around on. I need to get off the Coke and Meth....i've said too much.

Yes, from what I have been told they cannot give early upgrades but they can do other things. If anything, call them and tell them that if you can’t get an EVO you will terminate your contract and pay the fee. They’ll try to keep you with other options. I did this when the Hero came out and they gave me $20/mo off our plan for the next 24 months. Not too shabby. I don’t even feel bad because Sprint will rape you if you let them.
As far as the EVO, I’m waiting until Xmas to see what HTC releases. I would hate to get the EVO, only to find out that HTC rushed it so it could be the first 4G phone and releases one way better in December or the first quarter of 2011.

chfields said:
I had a similiar issue about moving the upgrade date up, but I was only asking for a month. It took 3 calls and me talking to a supervisor to get them to give me the early upgrade. I think it helped that I was only 5 months away from being with them for 10 years. Either way, it was a real big hassle and we almost told them to stick it......But I held me ground and we did get the ealry upgrade. Ended up betting 2 heros for $99
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Man, I have gotten what I want out of Sprint every time I've tried (but I don't think I've ever asked for something unreasonable ) EXCEPT the time I tried to get my upgrade ONE DAY EARLY. Best Buy was doing a crazy sale and I spent 40 minutes outside outside the store on the phone with Sprint to no avail. Luckily the manager at BB was willing to honor the sale the following day and I ended up getting an unheard of deal on 2 hero's and a blackberry curve

i called in right before they released 2.1 and told them i was canceling becasue of the problems with 1.5(lmao) if they didnt reset my upgrade date and they did on the spot no problem

702DROID said:
i called in right before they released 2.1 and told them i was canceling becasue of the problems with 1.5(lmao) if they didnt reset my upgrade date and they did on the spot no problem
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Simple as that? Wish i could talk to the people you did.

How Do People Keep Getting New Phones?

theres alot of talk of switching from this phone to that, but how do they do it? My dad has always handled the purchasing and contract stuff with tmobile, so i dont know. Theoretically if i wanted to switch from my vib to the G2 (NEVER!), would i just sell my vibrant and buy the G2 at full price?
note: this is just an example, G2's are stupid (for me)

Buying the phone outright, at least on T-Mobile, will give you cheaper rates. Part of your monthly bill is to pay back the difference between what the carrier paid for the phone and the discounted price they sold it to you for. For example, my Evo cost Sprint about $450 to buy it from HTC, however in exchange for a higher bill, they can sell it to me for $200 and make back the money about halfway into my contract. Like I said, I think only T-Mobile will give you lower rates if you choose not to buy the phone at a discounted price from them.
So yes, people usually buy them outright or they buy them for cheap off of friends or idiots on craigslist. If you do the math, most of the time it would cost you less to buy the phone for the full price if it means lower service cost. But most people want instant gratification and think...well they don't think lol.

A job helps. I buy my phones outright because the get more plus plan does not give upgrades, but over the long term, it saves money.

me i actually wait until the store is closed and "let myself in" and its usually a alot of phones out on display.

If you did not buy the phone outright (i.e. as an upgrade for cheap), and wanted to sell it and buy a different phone used, would that cause a problem for your account? Or would it just be as easy as logging into your T-Mobile account and selected a different device for "my phone"?

Terrier Hockey said:
If you did not buy the phone outright (i.e. as an upgrade for cheap), and wanted to sell it and buy a different phone used, would that cause a problem for your account? Or would it just be as easy as logging into your T-Mobile account and selected a different device for "my phone"?
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Once you pay for it, it's yours. You can do whatever the hell you want with it. Sell it, destroy it, whatever. As long as T-Mobile's getting their money, it doesn't matter.

dligon said:
me i actually wait until the store is closed and "let myself in" and its usually a alot of phones out on display.
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DEBO! lmao
IMHO, I'd say once a year is more than sufficient to upgrade your phone in terms of the technological jumps. Anymore than that seems like a waste of money. No one says you have to keep upgrading, its just a matter or preference. If you find a phone you love and works for you, stick with it. If you love having the cutting edge stuff and its worth it to you to spend the money, then by all means, spend spend spend.

a job and full price. lol. i haven't had a contract with tmob for like 4 years anyway...
but then again, i went from a g1 to the vibrant, but i typically get a new phone once a year. had a bb curve, wanted android and got the g1, cm wasn't cutting it on the g1 anymore, so i got the vibrant, when a substantially better phone comes out (dual core, better screen, honeycomb, etc), or the vibrant just isn't working for me i'll get a new one (likely the former).
that or my wife needs a new phone (she has a cliq...), so i may pawn my vibrant off on her and grab an sgs2 or vibrant 4g.

I have enormous piles of money all over my mansion. That's how.
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If you don't have any connections, then the best way is to go on T-mobile's cheap plans and then buy the phones used from a site like ebay or craigslist.
The typical cost for a new-ish smart phone is going to be right around $300... so you are paying more than the $200-with-contract price that T-mobile charges.... but you break even on the extra cost in 5-6 months by avoiding the extra monthly cost for service on a contract (since you buy the phone without signing up for a contract).
You can also usually sell the old phone for ~$100 after you unlock it, and put that money towards your next upgrade.
Right now, I plan to see how the battery life on the dual core phones goes. If battery life is improved, then I will shoot for device running "Ice cream" or whatever comes after honeycomb.
If battery life still sucks, then I will keep my Vibrant (and the 3 spare batteries I have for it) in the short term and keep an eye out for cheaper plans

Im in a college town and I can get things cheap off craigslist. I bought my second vibrant for 120 brand new with accessories. Just got an hd7 for 150 and ive bought 4 hd2 plus a couple broken ones from 40-150.
Key to buying phone monthly is patients, checking craigslist every couple hrs, and lowballing. I love to see a listing up for a couple days because its usually the green light.
Every phone i buy i usually see for 2x what I paid for.
Ive been living off my first real phones tmobile mda, samsung blackjack, and moto milestone. Ive been selling and buying since my mda. I try not to use my own money.
And all but not least I dont care for light cosmetic issues, thats what silicon cases are for.

imitebewrong said:
I have enormous piles of money all over my mansion. That's how.
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Lol
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intruda119 said:
Im in a college town and I can get things cheap off craigslist. I bought my second vibrant for 120 brand new with accessories. Just got an hd7 for 150 and ive bought 4 hd2 plus a couple broken ones from 40-150.
Key to buying phone monthly is patients, checking craigslist every couple hrs, and lowballing. I love to see a listing up for a couple days because its usually the green light.
Every phone i buy i usually see for 2x what I paid for.
Ive been living off my first real phones tmobile mda, samsung blackjack, and moto milestone. Ive been selling and buying since my mda. I try not to use my own money.
And all but not least I dont care for light cosmetic issues, thats what silicon cases are for.
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Exactly. Thats what I do. Just buy phones, make profit, and keep the cycle going until you have the Phones you want and they cost nothing.
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serban954 said:
Exactly. Thats what I do. Just buy phones, make profit, and keep the cycle going until you have the Phones you want and they cost nothing.
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yup all my phones are a result of selling my PSP years ago.
xD

scrizz said:
yup all my phones are a result of selling my PSP years ago.
xD
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only thing I really paid for was my moto miletone. I loved that phone and it was perfect for me. Everything else is from my original purchase of my mda. I get mad when I hear people trying to choose phones or game systems ect. I just bought a newer white 360 with 20inch moniter for 65 bucks on craigslist. Now I got a 2nd moniter and my girl got another 360 exclusive for kinect. Or just sell it and make 200+ for it.
Next I will get atleast 300+ for my 32gb vibrant( this title will make me alot of moniesssss) soon.

funeralthirst said:
a job and full price. lol. i haven't had a contract with tmob for like 4 years anyway...
but then again, i went from a g1 to the vibrant, but i typically get a new phone once a year. had a bb curve, wanted android and got the g1, cm wasn't cutting it on the g1 anymore, so i got the vibrant, when a substantially better phone comes out (dual core, better screen, honeycomb, etc), or the vibrant just isn't working for me i'll get a new one (likely the former).
that or my wife needs a new phone (she has a cliq...), so i may pawn my vibrant off on her and grab an sgs2 or vibrant 4g.
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Not really. All it takes is a brain. T-Mobile is addicted to promotions. I just upgraded my Vibrant to a HD7 for $200.
Free Online Promotion:
1. Order HD7 from T-Mobile as an Add-a-Line for $0 (they waive the Activation Fee) with a $15 Data Plan and Insurance.
2. Swap the SIMs in the Vibrant and HD7s.
3. Wait 2 Weeks.
3a. Sell the Vibrant for $200+
4. ETF the Line you added when you got the HD7 (it's using your older SIM*).
5. Total Price: $200 (Price of the phone for a new customer).
* You will still qualify for upgrade pricing when you would have if you had kept the Vibrant, because you still have the Vibrant SIM, you ETF'd the new SIM instead
If you're on T-Mobile, watch the promotions and wait. The only time you should feel like you have to get a new phone early is if you've been burned with an earlier purchase - like many [US] Galaxy S users feel they were.

intruda119 said:
only thing I really paid for was my moto miletone. I loved that phone and it was perfect for me. Everything else is from my original purchase of my mda. I get mad when I hear people trying to choose phones or game systems ect. I just bought a newer white 360 with 20inch moniter for 65 bucks on craigslist. Now I got a 2nd moniter and my girl got another 360 exclusive for kinect. Or just sell it and make 200+ for it.
Next I will get atleast 300+ for my 32gb vibrant( this title will make me alot of moniesssss) soon.
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The newer 360s aren't White, they're black.
Unless you meant a newer white 360 that isn't guaranteed to fail on you sooner or later?
The new Black "S" or pre-"S" Elite Models are fine, though.
The white ones... I wouldn't spend anything on them.

Buy a phone from craigslist and sell your old one on craigslist.

N8ter said:
Not really. All it takes is a brain. T-Mobile is addicted to promotions. I just upgraded my Vibrant to a HD7 for $200.
Free Online Promotion:
1. Order HD7 from T-Mobile as an Add-a-Line for $0 (they waive the Activation Fee) with a $15 Data Plan and Insurance.
2. Swap the SIMs in the Vibrant and HD7s.
3. Wait 2 Weeks.
3a. Sell the Vibrant for $200+
4. ETF the Line you added when you got the HD7 (it's using your older SIM*).
5. Total Price: $200 (Price of the phone for a new customer).
* You will still qualify for upgrade pricing when you would have if you had kept the Vibrant, because you still have the Vibrant SIM, you ETF'd the new SIM instead
If you're on T-Mobile, watch the promotions and wait. The only time you should feel like you have to get a new phone early is if you've been burned with an earlier purchase - like many [US] Galaxy S users feel they were.
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yeah, you could do that. but you pay more monthly on a contract plan than a no contract plan. plus, if i have a problem with something (or want to go to a contract for a phone), tmob is much more receptive to what i want when i'm off contract (and they check how long i've had service with them).
and i think you mean cancel the new sim/line and pay the etf on that. otherwise you lose future upgrade capability on the existing line. you physically swap the sim card between the two phones, but you cancel the sim that came with the <new phone line>. sim cards can't be reused, so you wouldn't be able to make your old sim use the new line's number and i'm pretty sure a sim has to be associated with a line.
why wait 2 weeks and why buy insurance? or is the two weeks to make sure the imei of the new phone takes for insurance (i don't have phone insurance, it's pointless)?
the hd7? that's a downgrade... and 'get a new phone early'? two years (22 months) between new phones is ridiculous, or at least is for any smartphone. once a year is about right with how technology is moving on phones.
i'm much happier just paying full price than doing some 'activate new line, call and ***** they didn't waive the activation fee, make sure the imei transfered for insurance, cancel line, pay more each month, etc.' dance.

xmrtarox said:
Buy a phone from craigslist and sell your old one on craigslist.
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That depends on where you live. Since this is the Vibrant forum I'll assume we're talking T-Mobile...
Not many people around here have T-Mobile, and their coverage is worst than Boost and Virgin so there are probably more people on Boost than on T-Mobile. Trying to sell a T-Mobile phone here won't get you anywhere.
Plus, the Value of these phones have gone down quite a bit.
Most people don't really see a point in buying a phone at off-contract prices, or anything close, because even if you buy at contract price and ETF 2 weeks later, the phone is cheaper.
So I rather buy on contract knowing I'm not poor and can ETF at any time on T-Mobile than buy a $500 phone and act like I'm better off because I'm off-contract.
$499 off contract, or $199 (with rebats) + $200 ETF fee two a few weeks later to end the contract?
Don't see a point in paying those prices for off-contract phones...
The contract prices only matter if you stay on the contract the entire time, but it's ALMOST ALWAYS cheaper to buy at contract price and ETF on T-Mobile later, than to buy an off-contract phone. You're actually throwing money away if you buy it off-contract.
That is precisely why AT&T and Verizon raised their ETF prices up about $100 bucks. To make the contract price + ETF = retail price. T-Mobile still hasn't, so it's cheaper to buy on contract and ETF break the contract after the first two weeks or month (depending on if you're waiting on rebates).

Want to Sell my Xoom, Am I out of line

So I want to sell my Xoom, I was lame and should have returned it within the 14 days, VZW isnt like Sprint and gives you 30 days (lame). Any way I will either buy a Samsung or a WiFi Xoom, I just do not want to be married to VZW for 2 years (have sprint and dont plan on going anywere anytime soon).
Have it on CL for $550 if someone assumes the contract, comes with case, perfect condition.
Does this sound fair?

Worst case, you can try Gazelle, see what they offer you if you don't get any hits.

The going price on eBay seems to be 700-750 right now
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With a contract, it is $600 new from vzw with none of the hassle of transfering the contract. You might need to go a touch lower than $550. But, you never know. Some people are stupid and have no idea what it is worth. Example - I sold my ipad a week before the Woom came out for $750. Considering a new one was $829 and newer tablets were literally weeks away, that guy must have been crazy.

If you really want rid of it, I'd try to ebay it for $700ish and eat your Verizon ETF.
Outside of the return period, you're going to take a hit.

Yeah... married to a 2 year contract I'd be hard pressed to shell out over $400 for a used tablet in any condition. I hope you get at least $400-500 for it!
PS: You should put a post in the main marketplace subforum, you will get better responses.

I've had a few people offer 750 off contract for it. Leaves me $400 after ETF and eating tax and activation.
I'll give it a few days, see what happens.
Im not trying to sell it here, was just seeing what everyone thought of my pricing.
Damn Im an idiot for being an early adopter. THought I'd use the data more than I do.

[Poll}Who's ditching the Vibrant for the Galaxy S III ??

As most early adopters of the Vibrant probably qualify for an upgrade by now, how many are jumping to the Galaxy S III when it hits June 21st? I know I am just waiting for the preorder details!

Fr0stbyteX said:
As most early adopters of the Vibrant probably qualify for an upgrade by now, how many are jumping to the Galaxy S III when it hits June 21st? I know I am just waiting for the preorder details!
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Not really sure yet. For some reason I'm not entirely impressed with the SGSIII. May check out something by HTC. I've never had one of their smartphones.

Not me. I'm off contract now, so unless something goes wrong I'll be rocking my Vibrant for quite some time. It'd be nice to have a decent camera though

I sure am, although i will look around for best deals at places like walmart, best buy, costco, amazon etc and may be wait sometime for deals to show up. I am due for full upgrade on june 21st, but don't want to drop 200 bucks. is there any additional charges like activation fees etc when upgrading?

While I am not on TMo my contract doesn't end until November and I have been grandfathered in the "unlimited" data with my carrier (until they decide I'm not anymore and screw me). But with that being said, I'll go unlocked when that time comes, so hopefully they'll come way down in price by then much like the GNex is now.
$799usd retail is too rich for my blood. I love my Vibe anyways and I just bought a tablet 3 moths ago, so pretty sure a new phone would be a hard sell with the wifely right now.

jneal9 said:
Not really sure yet. For some reason I'm not entirely impressed with the SGSIII. May check out something by HTC. I've never had one of their smartphones.
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HTC? I wouldn't dream of having a HTC phones after they lock their bootloaders on their flagship phone.. no way in hell.
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While I am not on TMo my contract doesn't end until November and I have been grandfathered in the "unlimited" data with my carrier (until they decide I'm not anymore and screw me). But with that being said, I'll go unlocked when that time comes, so hopefully they'll come way down in price by then much like the GNex is now.
$799usd retail is too rich for my blood. I love my Vibe anyways and I just bought a tablet 3 moths ago, so pretty sure a new phone would be a hard sell with the wifely right now.
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I agree, I'm gonna stick with my Vib for a bit more.
I have to buy my own phones (i'm a teen, my parents do not pay for me) and that price is just too steep, and with the gas prices these days. I'd go broke before I buy another smartphone. I recently also bought the Galaxy Tab 10.2, I'm planning on not rooting or anything, keeping it a virgin for as long as I can. I use it quite frequently when I'm at home, so rather not brick it or anything.

I'm due for an upgrade on the 30th of June, so depending on how much they want me to fork out....I may be sticking to my vibrant for a little while longer...which I honestly have no problem doing ^^ haha

If you ARE due for an upgrade, how much is it going to cost? The reg. $200?
I can probably take my moms upgrade, she loves her Vibrant and could care less about the next big thing.

xriderx66 said:
If you ARE due for an upgrade, how much is it going to cost? The reg. $200?
I can probably take my moms upgrade, she loves her Vibrant and could care less about the next big thing.
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I attempted to check via their website, but they wouldn't let me since the gs3 isn't available yet ^^;; I might just give em a call tomorrow if I'm not too too lazy. Or, if anyone has more insight into this...I would also like to know lol because I'm not sure ^^;;

Yeah, I can almost guarantee it will be $200.
SGS was $200
SGS2 was $200
and after looking at this article (it's about ATT and it being $200)
I'm pretty sure it will be $200 for all carriers.

xriderx66 said:
Yeah, I can almost guarantee it will be $200.
SGS was $200
SGS2 was $200
and after looking at this article (it's about ATT and it being $200)
I'm pretty sure it will be $200 for all carriers.
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Yea, I'm thinking the same honestly...but a man can certainly hope lol

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HTC? I wouldn't dream of having a HTC phones after they lock their bootloaders on their flagship phone.. no way in hell.
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For the record: It was AT&T that decided to lock the bootloader, not HTC. Notice how the One S has its bootloader unlocked officially through HTCDev.
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SGS3 is cool and all, but I like how functional my Vibrant is already thanks to the devs. Isn't the point of XDA suppose to be getting the most out of your devices while they're still kicking? I can understand certain grievances like say....OUR GPS. But that's about it.

Holy ****, I just saw a SGS3 for sale on Craigslist for $1200. That's crazy
SGH-T959 ICS Gummy 1.2

These idiots at tmobile will probably make it 199, but that will be after a 50 dollar rebate. And I of course will follow everyone else right over the cliff.
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I'll be switching, due for an upgrade on both of my lines. I even managed to talk my wife into it, which was hard cause she's always been hell bent on a hardware keyboard lol.

alpha-niner64 said:
For the record: It was AT&T that decided to lock the bootloader, not HTC. Notice how the One S has its bootloader unlocked officially through HTCDev.
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Technically true, but they also locked S-On and won't unlock that.
What I just don't get is, why? There's always a work around, yeah locked bootloaders and S-On make it harder, but they don't stop it from happening, so why do it?
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Its up in the air for me right now. If Sprint is still doing unlimited data when I'm ready to move on (I've been ready since the day I bought this phone, but I don't like wasting money, so I'm just waiting as long as I can), then I'm moving to them and getting the next Nexus or an iPhone 5. If not, I'm gonna unlock my Vibrant and just use T-Mobile's prepaid service until I NEED to buy a new phone.

Can't wait for the Galaxy SIII.
My phone is breaking down and reporting weird battery numbers.
I'm ready to buy a GS3 from my carrier (WIND) for $599.99 (16GB Version)

Don't forget that the phone also includes the tax on the $799.99 price tag (around $66 in cali) even with the $200 after rebate price tag, $6 LCD waste fee, and other miscellaneous bs fees and taxes.

I'm out...been off contact since November...waiting around for a worthy upgrade... this more than qualifies...can't wait.
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T-Mobile Jump! Cancel

Merry Christmas!
Hey guys, I've been thinking about canceling my Jump! service, I just do not see the benefit beside protecting you device. I just want to see who have it, and why you want to keep it. Or those that do not have it and why you didn't bother signing up.

I have it and my carrier insurance actually dropped 2 dollars a month so I figured, why not? I do like it though. Out allows me to continually get new phones. I tend to get board with a phone to a degree after a year or so. For me it's pretty good. You just have to get over the fact if you keep jumping, you'll never really own a phone. Sort of leasing a phone.
Merry Christmas

I'm very fortunate to have the opportunity to switch to a new phone every year, so I thought JUMP! makes sense. The insurance and Lookout Premium is a nice addition.

I been paying into jump for me and my wife since it started. Just upgraded both of us 2 weeks ago to two note 4's. In 6 months Samsung will have new phones with Playstation Now. I saw an aluminum billet cut out of a new Samsung phone, kinda curious to see what the final product looks like and how the Playstation Now runs on it. If I like I will wait for unboxing youtube video and maybe I jump.
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I use mine for insurance purposes only, I end up buying phones every 4 months or so, so basically the upgrading isn't worth doing for me, plus its a waste money to lease a phone and not pay it off imo.

It all depends and it's all in the numbers. It's a number game. If you have it only for insurance, do keep in mind that there's a deductible. For a high end phone like the Note 4, it's like $175 or something. If you're using it to upgrade, make sure your phones not almost paid off or it won't be worth it lol. Or if you're required to put down a big deposit, jump isn't worth it. Do the math. Crunch the numbers...

Well I have the first JUMP package that was released (grandfathered in). I love it because it lets me upgrade every 6 months. I get bored of devices pretty quick, especially with all of the devices that get released. Best thing to ever happen to a carrier.
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I also have the first JUMP package. It's pretty great deal.

If u have jump 1 keep it if you have jump 2 get rid of it. Not worth it for 2 if you swap out phones a lot
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Can you please elaborate. I felt the Jump 2 was just an enhanced version of Jump 1 (Jump 2 just allows you to upgrade whenever you want). Jump 1 allows maximum 2 upgrade a year.
I feel the Jump is worth it if you are upgrading your devices every 6 months, based on my rough calculations.
BACARDILIMON said:
If u have jump 1 keep it if you have jump 2 get rid of it. Not worth it for 2 if you swap out phones a lot
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winlinmac001 said:
Can you please elaborate. I felt the Jump 2 was just an enhanced version of Jump 1 (Jump 2 just allows you to upgrade whenever you want). Jump 1 allows maximum 2 upgrade a year.
I feel the Jump is worth it if you are upgrading your devices every 6 months, based on my rough calculations.
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If you are on payment plans you must pay off device by 50% if you wanna jump. With jump 1 it 6 months no matter how much you owe.
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Wow, T-Mobile rep explained me Jump 1 way differently, stating that half the device value would still need to be paid, lol. However, from the way you describe it, Jump 1 would have certainly been better in this case. The T-Mo rep also stated that customers can choose between Jump 1 or Jump 2, I call that BS.
Even paying 50% of the device is still worth it (whether you wait one year or 6 months) because every non-Apple device depreciates fast.
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If u have jump 1 keep it if you have jump 2 get rid of it. Not worth it for 2 if you swap out phones a lot
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BACARDILIMON said:
If you are on payment plans you must pay off device by 50% if you wanna jump. With jump 1 it 6 months no matter how much you owe.
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Wow, T-Mobile rep explained me Jump 1 way differently, stating that half the device value would still need to be paid, lol. However, from the way you describe it, Jump 1 would have certainly been better in this case. The T-Mo rep also stated that customers can choose between Jump 1 or Jump 2, I call that BS.
Even paying 50% of the device is still worth it (whether you wait one year or 6 months) because every non-Apple device depreciates fast.
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They lied to you. You can't choose jump 1 is only for people grandfathered in. Jump 2 just sucks once you had jump 1
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I agree. Seems like T-Mobile being a true carrier once again (or were they always; like they give a sh!t).
So, if I was a T-Mobile customer a year ago, and chose Jump 1 then, it would have been worth it.
Once you upgrade with Jump 1, customers are required to continue with Jump 2 or simply remove Jump from their account.
T-Mobile is slowly giving us chills. Lets see what they reveal to us next year; will they stick to their plans for the better? #CoverageMyA$$
I'm really looking forward to a bright future for T-Mobile. Better not be one of those companies that fall bankrupt after a major flop. Do they even have the integrity? Can they sustain their building reputation? Who knows...
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They lied to you. You can't choose jump 1 is only for people grandfathered in. Jump 2 just sucks once you had jump 1
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Once you upgrade with Jump 1, customers are required to continue with Jump 2 or simply remove Jump from their account.
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This is not true. If this happened to you then some sneaky rep in the store must have switched you. I just upgraded this week. I am still on jump 1. I even called them before I left the store to verify. The ONLY way you lose Jump 1 is by 1) Switching to Jump #2 or 2) Leaving T-Mobile then coming back. Thats it. Also when I log into tmobile it says I can jump NOW. That would not be possible on jump 2

Well, I never said T-Mobile was a good company anyway. Most of their store clerks are unprofessional, arrogant, and ignorant anyway. The other day, a female customer lost all her text messages on the phone as it was erased by the store rep without authorization by her; no backup to be found. T-Mobile should wake up; their Uncarrier move isn't all that great as I once thought. I don't mind the changes between Jump 1 and Jump 2, as I do understand in the corporate world, it all about profits and gain; T-Mobile would have suffered major loss had they adhered to the Jump 1 stands for long.
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This is not true. If this happened to you then some sneaky rep in the store must have switched you. I just upgraded this week. I am still on jump 1. I even called them before I left the store to verify. The ONLY way you lose Jump 1 is by 1) Switching to Jump #2 or 2) Leaving T-Mobile then coming back. Thats it. Also when I log into tmobile it says I can jump NOW. That would not be possible on jump 2
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Well, I never said T-Mobile was a good company anyway. Most of their store clerks are unprofessional, arrogant, and ignorant anyway. The other day, a female customer lost all her text messages on the phone as it was erased by the store rep without authorization by her; no backup to be found. T-Mobile should wake up; their Uncarrier move isn't all that great as I once thought. I don't mind the changes between Jump 1 and Jump 2, as I do understand in the corporate world, it all about profits and gain; T-Mobile would have suffered major loss had they adhered to the Jump 1 stands for long.
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My phone is my internet. I tether it. To do so and not have an outrageous bill you need two things.
1) Rooted phone
2) Unlimited data
So until another company offers unlimited data? They are the best around imo. They are also the only company I can go from the US to London on and still use my phone. Changing nothing. They are actually one of the best carriers. But if you want to keep paying over 100$ a month stay with one of the other guys... I pay 92 a month INCLUDING my note 4 payment. Unlimited everything including data. Due to T-mobiles high speeds my phone is my home internet.
PS> I have seen more retards at Verizon stores than anywhere. Maybe its just the stores where you live have a crappy regional manager? Ever think of that?

Well, I'm sure I must have went to a well reputable Verizon store then. T-Mobile's phone reps never seem to be updated or clear regarding their own policies, nor do they even understand their latest uncarrier moves. Ask them a question (even if you already know the answer) and you'll get a distorted answer from them. I've been to some T-Mobile stores where the reps were courteous, professional, and knew what they were selling, but the odds for encountering a carrier store like that are low for the most part. Its the tele-representatives I'm referring to. I only switched to T-Mobile due to the value of service I'd be getting, nothing to do with coverage.
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My phone is my internet. I tether it. To do so and not have an outrageous bill you need two things.
1) Rooted phone
2) Unlimited data
So until another company offers unlimited data? They are the best around imo. They are also the only company I can go from the US to London on and still use my phone. Changing nothing. They are actually one of the best carriers. But if you want to keep paying over 100$ a month stay with one of the other guys... I pay 92 a month INCLUDING my note 4 payment. Unlimited everything including data. Due to T-mobiles high speeds my phone is my home internet.
PS> I have seen more retards at Verizon stores than anywhere. Maybe its just the stores where you live have a crappy regional manager? Ever think of that?
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I have it and my carrier insurance actually dropped 2 dollars a month so I figured, why not? I do like it though. Out allows me to continually get new phones. I tend to get board with a phone to a degree after a year or so. For me it's pretty good. You just have to get over the fact if you keep jumping, you'll never really own a phone. Sort of leasing a phone.
Merry Christmas
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You may be able to Jump to a new phone after a year or after the device is half way paid off but you have to trade it in . If you do the math you are losing money 2 ways. A year from now you can sell your phone outright for more than $400 easily . That being said 1 year from now you will have half your device paid off if you are doing the 2 year finance . So that means Tmobile is giving $330 Tops for your phone when you Jump. You can just sell your phone for anything more than $330 ( which is very easy) and put it towards a new device . When I was gonna Jump from my S5 to the note 4 they were only giving me $320 cause that is what I owed on it. I sold it for $425 and paid off the S5 and put the extra $105 towards my Note 4 . Unless you are on the old Jump then it is not worth it cause they pay you less than market value for an easy to sell phone.
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Mavman42 said:
Merry Christmas!
Hey guys, I've been thinking about canceling my Jump! service, I just do not see the benefit beside protecting you device. I just want to see who have it, and why you want to keep it. Or those that do not have it and why you didn't bother signing up.
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In order to Jump you have to have half your device paid off . If you just bought a Note 4 now then in a year from now you will only owe $330 or so . So Tmobile is gonna give you $330 for a phone you could easily sell a year from now for over $400 . Keep your insurance , dump jump and put the $24 you save in a year for not having it plus the $400+ you can sell your Note 4 for and pay off your device when you want to Jump and put the extra $100 or so you have left towards your new phone. Put it this way even if you only get $350 for your Note 4 ( which would be on the very low end) you would still be coming out ahead. Why trade in an easy to sell device when you can sell it yourself ?No doubt about it that you are getting screwed by TMO when you pay for Jump . If you are on the Old Jump please disregard this message. the old Jump is worth it. Tmobile may still ask you to put a deposit on your new phone when you decide to jump . All jump does is pay off the remaing balance on your phone. Tmobile will still run a credit check when you get a new device.Just do the math and you will see why Jump is a Scam . Numbers don't lie put Big Business does. Anything they can to squeeze a few more dollars out of you a month.

I think its just a matter of convenience and peace of mind now with Jump 2. The fact that you don't need to worry about paying shipping and insurance and seller fees, etc when selling the phone to the second owner.
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You may be able to Jump to a new phone after a year or after the device is half way paid off but you have to trade it in . If you do the math you are losing money 2 ways. A year from now you can sell your phone outright for more than $400 easily . That being said 1 year from now you will have half your device paid off if you are doing the 2 year finance . So that means Tmobile is giving $330 Tops for your phone when you Jump. You can just sell your phone for anything more than $330 ( which is very easy) and put it towards a new device . When I was gonna Jump from my S5 to the note 4 they were only giving me $320 cause that is what I owed on it. I sold it for $425 and paid off the S5 and put the extra $105 towards my Note 4 . Unless you are on the old Jump then it is not worth it cause they pay you less than market value for an easy to sell phone.
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In order to Jump you have to have half your device paid off . If you just bought a Note 4 now then in a year from now you will only owe $330 or so . So Tmobile is gonna give you $330 for a phone you could easily sell a year from now for over $400 . Keep your insurance , dump jump and put the $24 you save in a year for not having it plus the $400+ you can sell your Note 4 for and pay off your device when you want to Jump and put the extra $100 or so you have left towards your new phone. Put it this way even if you only get $350 for your Note 4 ( which would be on the very low end) you would still be coming out ahead. Why trade in an easy to sell device when you can sell it yourself ?No doubt about it that you are getting screwed by TMO when you pay for Jump . If you are on the Old Jump please disregard this message. the old Jump is worth it. Tmobile may still ask you to put a deposit on your new phone when you decide to jump . All jump does is pay off the remaing balance on your phone. Tmobile will still run a credit check when you get a new device.Just do the math and you will see why Jump is a Scam . Numbers don't lie put Big Business does. Anything they can to squeeze a few more dollars out of you a month.
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