G1 owners deserve early upgrade eligability for NEXUS ONE - G1 General

I am feeling the hype of the nexus one, as im sure the rest of you are. It is truely an amazing phone, and i have a feeling it will have a xda following as powerful as the g1 has had. Seeing as though our phones are nearly out of date and close to its limit with android i was looking into buying a nexus one. NEVER would i pay 500 or so dollars for an unlocked phone. I have tmobile, but i have not had my g1 long enough for an upgrade(since last nov). Who else agrees that tmobile should be generous enough to enable us to buy the nexus one under upgrade pricing with a new 2 year agreement. They will be making their money from me, its just not right that we are basically going to be left in the dust.

No, g1 owners dont deserve anything. When you bought a g1 you paid for that phone. You never paid for any future proofing of any sort. This is like saying Windows Users should get every new version of windows free just for using windows.
You paid for a T-Mobile G1 and that is what you received. If you want to upgrade to a new phone you must pay for that new phone. These two phones have nothing to do with each other except that they both run Android. T-Mobile G1 is sold by T-Mobile, and Nexus One is sold by Google, it just happens to support T-Mobile's network.
If you think 529$ is too much just dont buy it, or wait for it to drop in price.

melterx12 said:
No, g1 owners dont deserve anything. When you bought a g1 you paid for that phone. You never paid for any future proofing of any sort. This is like saying Windows Users should get every new version of windows free just for using windows.
You paid for a T-Mobile G1 and that is what you received. If you want to upgrade to a new phone you must pay for that new phone. These two phones have nothing to do with each other except that they both run Android. T-Mobile G1 is sold by T-Mobile, and Nexus One is sold by Google, it just happens to support T-Mobile's network.
If you think 529$ is too much just dont buy it, or wait for it to drop in price.
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If anything, T-Mobile would at least upgrade G1 users to the MyTouch 3G like Rogers is going to upgrade their Dreams to the Magic because they say that it will not be able to upgrade them to 2.1 because of hardware limitations.
Doubtful that T-Mobile would take that hit though.

tazz9690 said:
If anything, T-Mobile would at least upgrade G1 users to the MyTouch 3G like Rogers is going to upgrade their Dreams to the Magic because they say that it will not be able to upgrade them to 2.1 because of hardware limitations.
Doubtful that T-Mobile would take that hit though.
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The only problem with that is the only benefit would be larger space for flashing a rom and wouldn't get the ram upgrade that you'd get if you upgraded to a magic. Unless they mean the 32b magic. Than i guess it would be the same thing. But imo, i'd rather have the keyboard then the extra space that could be solved by apps2sd.
I somewhat regret getting the mt3g.

I understand upgrading from a g1 to mytouch 3g, as they are very similar, but upgrading from a g1 to a n1 is like upgrading from a ford to a ferrari, price-wise.

I like the nexus, dont get me wrong, really seems to be advertised as an outstanding phone. I dont mind paying 500 cash for a phone, I bought my G1 for $450 anyway, but I am weighing my options between the droid and the nexus right now...simply because my number one love for the G1 is the qwerty keyboard, and droid carries that feature on but nexus doesn't.

Klyentel said:
I like the nexus, dont get me wrong, really seems to be advertised as an outstanding phone. I dont mind paying 500 cash for a phone, I bought my G1 for $450 anyway, but I am weighing my options between the droid and the nexus right now...simply because my number one love for the G1 is the qwerty keyboard, and droid carries that feature on but nexus doesn't.
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The droid has one of the worst keyboards I've ever seen on a phone, I don't recommend it
And T-mobile will upgrade you to a nexus. You just have to get out of contract and shell out $200 first

JAguirre1231 said:
The droid has one of the worst keyboards I've ever seen on a phone, I don't recommend it
And T-mobile will upgrade you to a nexus. You just have to get out of contract and shell out $200 first
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yeah so I've heard....guess im just afraid of not being able to adjust to an all touch screen phone...but i know i get 30 days to return if i dont like it so im try the nexus anyway, plus my favorite dev is cooking roms for it, so i gotta give it a go!

Let me clarify..... im am talking about the 2 yr agreement price, i believe it is $179 hell, i'd sign a 3 year agreement for it. I am not asking for ANYTHING free. i know i do not deserve it. just the option to upgrade.

Klyentel said:
I like the nexus, dont get me wrong, really seems to be advertised as an outstanding phone. I dont mind paying 500 cash for a phone, I bought my G1 for $450 anyway, but I am weighing my options between the droid and the nexus right now...simply because my number one love for the G1 is the qwerty keyboard, and droid carries that feature on but nexus doesn't.
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FWIW the Nexus One "enterprise edition" has been rumored to sport a fully qwerty. At that time I imagine they also intend to support both proxies through the browser as well as WPA2 enterprise natively, but I can't say for sure as it's all just smoke right now.

bubsy7 said:
Let me clarify..... im am talking about the 2 yr agreement price, i believe it is $179 hell, i'd sign a 3 year agreement for it. I am not asking for ANYTHING free. i know i do not deserve it. just the option to upgrade.
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yes we know, but fact simply remains that you signed a two-yr contract, a contract that stated how long you had to wait before upgrading...therefore, you must wait that time out....regardless of phone issues, thats with any cell company, T-mobile cant make business being generous, so your topic of this thread is just wishful thinking...but not a bad idea though, cus i agree it would be nice.

Klyentel said:
yes we know, but fact simply remains that you signed a two-yr contract, a contract that stated how long you had to wait before upgrading...therefore, you must wait that time out....regardless of phone issues, thats with any cell company, T-mobile cant make business being generous, so your topic of this thread is just wishful thinking...but not a bad idea though, cus i agree it would be nice.
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That's not true, you signed a contract to stay with them for 2 years. You can upgrade at any time, you just have to pay full price. They subsidize for new or out-of-contract customers to have them with that carrier

JAguirre1231 said:
The droid has one of the worst keyboards I've ever seen on a phone, I don't recommend it
And T-mobile will upgrade you to a nexus. You just have to get out of contract and shell out $200 first
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This is not T-Mobile! FOR THE LAST TIME! THIS PHONE IS SOLD SOLELY BY GOOGLE! Even if you buy it with a T-Mobile contract it will still be unlocked! Google is simply selling this phone with a T-Mobile contract in agreement with T-Mobile!
THE NEXUS ONE IS NOT SOLD BY T-MOBILE AND IS NOT A T-MOBILE PHONE!

Klyentel said:
yeah so I've heard....guess im just afraid of not being able to adjust to an all touch screen phone...but i know i get 30 days to return if i dont like it so im try the nexus anyway, plus my favorite dev is cooking roms for it, so i gotta give it a go!
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14 day return, not 30 days.

melterx12 said:
14 day return, not 30 days.
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oh, my bad, 14 days still enough, i'll probably fall in love the first day

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That's not true, you signed a contract to stay with them for 2 years. You can upgrade at any time, you just have to pay full price. They subsidize for new or out-of-contract customers to have them with that carrier
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yeah you're right...but who gives a **** about upgrading b4 time if you still goin pay full price...IMO, thats not an upgrade.

melterx12 said:
This is not T-Mobile! FOR THE LAST TIME! THIS PHONE IS SOLD SOLELY BY GOOGLE! Even if you buy it with a T-Mobile contract it will still be unlocked! Google is simply selling this phone with a T-Mobile contract in agreement with T-Mobile!
THE NEXUS ONE IS NOT SOLD BY T-MOBILE AND IS NOT A T-MOBILE PHONE!
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I know this, but T-Mobile is the one who subsidizes it. That is why I said it tht way

in any case, if you subsidize you are paying 80$/month for 2 years for a plan which without the nesxus one costs 60$ a month +180$ upfront!
24 x $20(Amount you are overpaying for the plan) = $480
$480 + $180 = $660
$660 - $530(price of a phone unsubsidized) = $130 OVER PAYED!

melterx12 said:
in any case, if you subsidize you are paying 80$/month for 2 years for a plan which without the nesxus one costs 60$ a month +180$ upfront!
24 x $20(Amount you are overpaying for the plan) = $480
$480 + $180 = $660
$660 - $530(price of a phone unsubsidized) = $130 OVER PAYED!
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Very true indeed...bravo. That being said people..just buy the dam phone unlocked from google...you have the option to shop carriers for the best priced plan. If you dont have $529, there is word that was discovered, hold on let me see can i find it......
Ah! here it is! its called SAVE

Klyentel said:
Very true indeed...bravo. That being said people..just buy the dam phone unlocked from google...you have the option to shop carriers for the best priced plan. If you dont have $529, there is word that was discovered, hold on let me see can i find it......
Ah! here it is! its called SAVE
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Subsidizing phones is just to make it more affordable for people who doesn't have the cash on hand. It's kind of like when you get a loan for a car. Most people won't have all the money for the car so they get a bank loan. When you get the loan you'll be charged interest until you've payed the car off. that extra $130 you are "overcharged" is just interest, in this situation.

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Htc hd2 -- $48.88

Sick to my stomach
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/06/walmart-selling-htc-hd2-for-48-88/
amazon
Amazon price: $49.99 (with new service plan)
I would have done this, except I couldn't add a line through amazon.
I wonder if the outright purchase price has dropped any? At this pricing it would have been worthwhile for me to renew my contract and get roped into the $30 a month data plan.
I outright purchased my HD2 since over the course of the 2 years that my contract would have been extended, the extra $10 a month for the data would have eaten up the savings of getting the HD2 subsidized.
Just the cost of being an early adopter
What the hell.
dropped $150 in what, 2 months?
rickyoon.vegas said:
What the hell.
dropped $150 in what, 2 months?
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It's quite sad really. Majority of the people who get the HD2 in the USA are not people who know what Windows Mobile is, and for the most part, get frustrated when they treat it as a phone, instead of a personal computer (SENSE's imperfections is partly to blame for this, which is why I never recommend SENSE to people). I can honestly vouch that the majority of people who got this phone got it because the screen is bigger than the iPhone (and that it is supposed to be T-Mobile's iPhone). That's about it.
Because of this, I"m pretty sure TMobile is experiencing so many returns/complaints from people who have little to know knowledge about Windows Mobile. Therefore, I'm getting the feeling that T-Mobile is starting to think that it's not worth it and is deciding to just push the stock out ASAP (lock whoever they can for the next 2 years), or what's left of it, keep a couple of thousand in stock for return/repair/warranty issues, and call it quits soon (which might lend proof to the upcoming rumor that T-Mobile is ending HD2 soon in July).
It's really sad, because the T-Mobile's HD2 is one of the most solid phones I have ever held in my hand which no cracks, crease, or squeaks. It is a hardware marvel in so many respects it puts a lot of other phones to shame.
Windows Mobile is an OS that is for a very niche market, because it requires a certain finesse and tolerance that a majority of users simply do not have (I give credit to Apple for making a device that works well for the features that it has). Windows Mobile phones are part phone, part personal computer, and part software-gadgetry-hobby for the tech enthusiast.
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What the hell.
dropped $150 in what, 2 months?
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as above said, its probably because it is becoming a headache for them. I bet they've had hundreds of returns because people have come here, flashed the wrong thing and bricked it, plus thousands more who simply dont get the phone, and have no clue how to start to understand it.
As a line of phones its probably somewhere between a great moneymaker and a support nightmare for tmo.
Sheesh, cut the price I paid in HALF! The nerve....
($99 from Wirefly at release)
As for why, well, I noticed a lot of HD2 commercials from HTC leading up to the release of Evo, then haven't seen any HD2 ones at all after that. Understandable for HTC, but bad for TMO, and it's affiliates. Perhaps lower prices are trying to pull the interest back to the "older" phone.
I got mine at launch at wal-mart - it was $149, so this is a $100 price drop
Shame those of us who paid 350+ can't get some of that cash back lol.
Not to mention that the resale values on eBay will DIVE when we want to sell ours in a year and possibly upgrade. Prices people are paying for used Nexus One's and Apple 3G's is insane! Fortunately paid about 75 in May through Letstalk.com with a coupon so I can definately get that back in a year. At the time Tmobile was charging 199 with a new service agreement. Their return rate must have been like a tidal wave. Amazing that a month ago people couldn't even get this phone as it was constantly on backorder! Guess a software/radio upgrade from Tmobile is now going to be out of the question?!!!
Agree that is a great phone with some minor software flaws but the hardware has been flawless. Look over at the EVO forum and many are have issues with screen delams, bleeding of backlight, badly grounded screens that repond even when touching the kickstand. My HD2 has been perfect - no flexing, dead pixels or button problems.
hd2
i didnt even pay for mine yet. tmobile billed me 130 and i have to pay two payments of 25 bucks so 200 total but they credited me 50 so it was only 150 now i havent had a fone in about month cuz i thought id be paying 25 extra for 6 months and now the fone is cheaper then i got it for with an extra 50, i think im going to call them and try to get my price adjusted !! its going for a third of what i am supposed to pay i might threaten to leave tmobile again or something
just be happy you all got it so much cheaper than the rest of the world to start with. An extra 100 dollars is chicken feed.
Lawl. I would love that the HD2 gets discontinued. It'll make us remaining T-Mobile HD2 owners stand like the few and the proud.
PoisonWolf said:
Lawl. I would love that the HD2 gets discontinued. It'll make us remaining T-Mobile HD2 owners stand like the few and the proud.
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HA! That's what I think as well! It'll be like the "Hard to get your hands on" phone.
Really? The Few, The Proud, The HD2 Owner.
It's still just a phone at the end of the day. I just hope that I will now be able to pick up a second HD2 cheap to experiment with when an Android port becomes available.
RiffyDivine said:
Shame those of us who paid 350+ can't get some of that cash back lol.
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Got that right. I just paid $400 less than a month ago without any plans
toygixxer69 said:
Got that right. I just paid $400 less than a month ago without any plans
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I paid $450 the first week of April for mine. But I don't have a contract to worry about and I am still using my t-zones service for $5.99 a month. So still worth it to me.
PoisonWolf said:
It's quite sad really. Majority of the people who get the HD2 in the USA are not people who know what Windows Mobile is, and for the most part, get frustrated when they treat it as a phone, instead of a personal computer (SENSE's imperfections is partly to blame for this, which is why I never recommend SENSE to people). I can honestly vouch that the majority of people who got this phone got it because the screen is bigger than the iPhone (and that it is supposed to be T-Mobile's iPhone). That's about it.
Because of this, I"m pretty sure TMobile is experiencing so many returns/complaints from people who have little to know knowledge about Windows Mobile. Therefore, I'm getting the feeling that T-Mobile is starting to think that it's not worth it and is deciding to just push the stock out ASAP (lock whoever they can for the next 2 years), or what's left of it, keep a couple of thousand in stock for return/repair/warranty issues, and call it quits soon (which might lend proof to the upcoming rumor that T-Mobile is ending HD2 soon in July).
It's really sad, because the T-Mobile's HD2 is one of the most solid phones I have ever held in my hand which no cracks, crease, or squeaks. It is a hardware marvel in so many respects it puts a lot of other phones to shame.
Windows Mobile is an OS that is for a very niche market, because it requires a certain finesse and tolerance that a majority of users simply do not have (I give credit to Apple for making a device that works well for the features that it has). Windows Mobile phones are part phone, part personal computer, and part software-gadgetry-hobby for the tech enthusiast.
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Man u said what i would have
ouch
wow that hurts..i paid $250.00 for mines but it sucks how the price dropped. but i am happy i got it and because of the hd2 i was able to learn so much more on this website about how everything works and...thats priceless
Paten said:
I paid $450 the first week of April for mine. But I don't have a contract to worry about and I am still using my t-zones service for $5.99 a month. So still worth it to me.
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HTC Aria available on Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/AT-T-HTC-ARIA-ANDROID-AREA-NEW-BOX-FAST-/270595384107?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item3f00bde32b
That didn't take long.
Ha, almost $500. Amazing how close it is in price (without contract) to a gently used Nexus One. Thank you for pointing this out.
I'm getting rid of my T-Mobile N1 because it sucks on AT&T (which I'm also stuck on due to insistent family members). I had bought the T-mobile version before any tech blog hinted that an AT&T version was coming out.
So anyway, Best Buy is offering this phone for $130 w/contract, with no silly $100 mail-in rebate for "AT&T cash" or whatever the hell it is. Yay!
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Ha, almost $500. Amazing how close it is in price (without contract) to a gently used Nexus One. Thank you for pointing this out.
I'm getting rid of my T-Mobile N1 because it sucks on AT&T (which I'm also stuck on due to insistent family members). I had bought the T-mobile version before any tech blog hinted that an AT&T version was coming out.
So anyway, Best Buy is offering this phone for $130 w/contract, with no silly $100 mail-in rebate for "AT&T cash" or whatever the hell it is. Yay!
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take a look at the aria specs 1st, you may want to trade your tmo N1 for an ATT N1.... :2cents:
Unsubsidized it's overpriced, for sure. There is only $30.00 between that and a new N1.
johng75 said:
take a look at the aria specs 1st, you may want to trade your tmo N1 for an ATT N1.... :2cents:
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I did research the specs, thanks... according to the results, its speed is comparable to the N1 despite the lower processing power (http://www.mobileunderground.info/showthread.php?t=14408). And it's been difficult to find someone who'd trade in this area... so I'll just use the extra $ to pay for textbooks. But thanks for your thoughts.
Attn1: It's funny how they overprice it (unsubsidized) and then throw a lot of $10 AT&T services in there that they hope you'll buy. Hopefully we can delete these when someone develops root or a rom for this....
I heard this phone will be available at costco for $99 (upgrade price) or 49.99 if you're a new customer.
AT&T's no commitment pricing is $379.00. That makes that $499.00 EBay price a huge ripoff.
It's $499 at my Best Buy. And I hate that they only have dummies so I couldn't even play with it.
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It's $499 at my Best Buy. And I hate that they only have dummies so I couldn't even play with it.
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Looks like AT&T no commitment price is the best no contract price so far.
damn pixie said:
I did research the specs, thanks... according to the results, its speed is comparable to the N1 despite the lower processing power (http://www.mobileunderground.info/showthread.php?t=14408). And it's been difficult to find someone who'd trade in this area... so I'll just use the extra $ to pay for textbooks. But thanks for your thoughts.
Attn1: It's funny how they overprice it (unsubsidized) and then throw a lot of $10 AT&T services in there that they hope you'll buy. Hopefully we can delete these when someone develops root or a rom for this....
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Well, on Ebay you can sell the N1 and pretty much acquire an AT&T version for almost the same money.
I don't think that AT&T's $379.00 no contract pricing is out of whack for an Aria, really when compared to phones like the HTC Magic and the HTC Hero (GSM) which both cost more.
I know what you mean about those $10.00 services though. That you can't remove that software without root access is cheesy at best, but it's not the end of the world, either.
The only extra cost services are AT&T Nav and AT&T Music. AT&T Maps is free (albeit unnecessary). Family Map is preloaded, but these things are easy enough to ignore until it's rooted. It's not like they're the only carrier to load their programs on. I doubt that everyone on Sprint is way into Nascar, but it's usually there.
It's a great little phone that's more powerful than the specs would let on. It's smooth and fast. Mine was only $92 with my upgrade and fan discount so I couldn't resist. I don't want another iPhone so this is the best alternative at the moment.
btw, they didn't block Google Maps Nav like I thought they might and it works great.
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It's a great little phone that's more powerful than the specs would let on. It's smooth and fast.
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I agree with you there. I got mine yesterday and it seems to handle 2.1 better than the N1 did! Of course, there are no live backgrounds... but I can have 7 apps running and it's still smooth, unlike the N1 which could handle only 3 or 4 apps before it lagged (on mine anyway... and using "end app" management programs at the same time... before I had upped it to 2.2).
I think this is the link to root the phone and install 3rd party pgms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706887
stevebonning said:
I think this is the link to root the phone and install 3rd party pgms
That is a link to install Non market apps or "Side loading" it's not a root....YET ;-)
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How Do People Keep Getting New Phones?

theres alot of talk of switching from this phone to that, but how do they do it? My dad has always handled the purchasing and contract stuff with tmobile, so i dont know. Theoretically if i wanted to switch from my vib to the G2 (NEVER!), would i just sell my vibrant and buy the G2 at full price?
note: this is just an example, G2's are stupid (for me)
Buying the phone outright, at least on T-Mobile, will give you cheaper rates. Part of your monthly bill is to pay back the difference between what the carrier paid for the phone and the discounted price they sold it to you for. For example, my Evo cost Sprint about $450 to buy it from HTC, however in exchange for a higher bill, they can sell it to me for $200 and make back the money about halfway into my contract. Like I said, I think only T-Mobile will give you lower rates if you choose not to buy the phone at a discounted price from them.
So yes, people usually buy them outright or they buy them for cheap off of friends or idiots on craigslist. If you do the math, most of the time it would cost you less to buy the phone for the full price if it means lower service cost. But most people want instant gratification and think...well they don't think lol.
A job helps. I buy my phones outright because the get more plus plan does not give upgrades, but over the long term, it saves money.
me i actually wait until the store is closed and "let myself in" and its usually a alot of phones out on display.
If you did not buy the phone outright (i.e. as an upgrade for cheap), and wanted to sell it and buy a different phone used, would that cause a problem for your account? Or would it just be as easy as logging into your T-Mobile account and selected a different device for "my phone"?
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If you did not buy the phone outright (i.e. as an upgrade for cheap), and wanted to sell it and buy a different phone used, would that cause a problem for your account? Or would it just be as easy as logging into your T-Mobile account and selected a different device for "my phone"?
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Once you pay for it, it's yours. You can do whatever the hell you want with it. Sell it, destroy it, whatever. As long as T-Mobile's getting their money, it doesn't matter.
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DEBO! lmao
IMHO, I'd say once a year is more than sufficient to upgrade your phone in terms of the technological jumps. Anymore than that seems like a waste of money. No one says you have to keep upgrading, its just a matter or preference. If you find a phone you love and works for you, stick with it. If you love having the cutting edge stuff and its worth it to you to spend the money, then by all means, spend spend spend.
a job and full price. lol. i haven't had a contract with tmob for like 4 years anyway...
but then again, i went from a g1 to the vibrant, but i typically get a new phone once a year. had a bb curve, wanted android and got the g1, cm wasn't cutting it on the g1 anymore, so i got the vibrant, when a substantially better phone comes out (dual core, better screen, honeycomb, etc), or the vibrant just isn't working for me i'll get a new one (likely the former).
that or my wife needs a new phone (she has a cliq...), so i may pawn my vibrant off on her and grab an sgs2 or vibrant 4g.
I have enormous piles of money all over my mansion. That's how.
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If you don't have any connections, then the best way is to go on T-mobile's cheap plans and then buy the phones used from a site like ebay or craigslist.
The typical cost for a new-ish smart phone is going to be right around $300... so you are paying more than the $200-with-contract price that T-mobile charges.... but you break even on the extra cost in 5-6 months by avoiding the extra monthly cost for service on a contract (since you buy the phone without signing up for a contract).
You can also usually sell the old phone for ~$100 after you unlock it, and put that money towards your next upgrade.
Right now, I plan to see how the battery life on the dual core phones goes. If battery life is improved, then I will shoot for device running "Ice cream" or whatever comes after honeycomb.
If battery life still sucks, then I will keep my Vibrant (and the 3 spare batteries I have for it) in the short term and keep an eye out for cheaper plans
Im in a college town and I can get things cheap off craigslist. I bought my second vibrant for 120 brand new with accessories. Just got an hd7 for 150 and ive bought 4 hd2 plus a couple broken ones from 40-150.
Key to buying phone monthly is patients, checking craigslist every couple hrs, and lowballing. I love to see a listing up for a couple days because its usually the green light.
Every phone i buy i usually see for 2x what I paid for.
Ive been living off my first real phones tmobile mda, samsung blackjack, and moto milestone. Ive been selling and buying since my mda. I try not to use my own money.
And all but not least I dont care for light cosmetic issues, thats what silicon cases are for.
imitebewrong said:
I have enormous piles of money all over my mansion. That's how.
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Lol
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intruda119 said:
Im in a college town and I can get things cheap off craigslist. I bought my second vibrant for 120 brand new with accessories. Just got an hd7 for 150 and ive bought 4 hd2 plus a couple broken ones from 40-150.
Key to buying phone monthly is patients, checking craigslist every couple hrs, and lowballing. I love to see a listing up for a couple days because its usually the green light.
Every phone i buy i usually see for 2x what I paid for.
Ive been living off my first real phones tmobile mda, samsung blackjack, and moto milestone. Ive been selling and buying since my mda. I try not to use my own money.
And all but not least I dont care for light cosmetic issues, thats what silicon cases are for.
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Exactly. Thats what I do. Just buy phones, make profit, and keep the cycle going until you have the Phones you want and they cost nothing.
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serban954 said:
Exactly. Thats what I do. Just buy phones, make profit, and keep the cycle going until you have the Phones you want and they cost nothing.
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yup all my phones are a result of selling my PSP years ago.
xD
scrizz said:
yup all my phones are a result of selling my PSP years ago.
xD
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only thing I really paid for was my moto miletone. I loved that phone and it was perfect for me. Everything else is from my original purchase of my mda. I get mad when I hear people trying to choose phones or game systems ect. I just bought a newer white 360 with 20inch moniter for 65 bucks on craigslist. Now I got a 2nd moniter and my girl got another 360 exclusive for kinect. Or just sell it and make 200+ for it.
Next I will get atleast 300+ for my 32gb vibrant( this title will make me alot of moniesssss) soon.
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a job and full price. lol. i haven't had a contract with tmob for like 4 years anyway...
but then again, i went from a g1 to the vibrant, but i typically get a new phone once a year. had a bb curve, wanted android and got the g1, cm wasn't cutting it on the g1 anymore, so i got the vibrant, when a substantially better phone comes out (dual core, better screen, honeycomb, etc), or the vibrant just isn't working for me i'll get a new one (likely the former).
that or my wife needs a new phone (she has a cliq...), so i may pawn my vibrant off on her and grab an sgs2 or vibrant 4g.
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Not really. All it takes is a brain. T-Mobile is addicted to promotions. I just upgraded my Vibrant to a HD7 for $200.
Free Online Promotion:
1. Order HD7 from T-Mobile as an Add-a-Line for $0 (they waive the Activation Fee) with a $15 Data Plan and Insurance.
2. Swap the SIMs in the Vibrant and HD7s.
3. Wait 2 Weeks.
3a. Sell the Vibrant for $200+
4. ETF the Line you added when you got the HD7 (it's using your older SIM*).
5. Total Price: $200 (Price of the phone for a new customer).
* You will still qualify for upgrade pricing when you would have if you had kept the Vibrant, because you still have the Vibrant SIM, you ETF'd the new SIM instead
If you're on T-Mobile, watch the promotions and wait. The only time you should feel like you have to get a new phone early is if you've been burned with an earlier purchase - like many [US] Galaxy S users feel they were.
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only thing I really paid for was my moto miletone. I loved that phone and it was perfect for me. Everything else is from my original purchase of my mda. I get mad when I hear people trying to choose phones or game systems ect. I just bought a newer white 360 with 20inch moniter for 65 bucks on craigslist. Now I got a 2nd moniter and my girl got another 360 exclusive for kinect. Or just sell it and make 200+ for it.
Next I will get atleast 300+ for my 32gb vibrant( this title will make me alot of moniesssss) soon.
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The newer 360s aren't White, they're black.
Unless you meant a newer white 360 that isn't guaranteed to fail on you sooner or later?
The new Black "S" or pre-"S" Elite Models are fine, though.
The white ones... I wouldn't spend anything on them.
Buy a phone from craigslist and sell your old one on craigslist.
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Not really. All it takes is a brain. T-Mobile is addicted to promotions. I just upgraded my Vibrant to a HD7 for $200.
Free Online Promotion:
1. Order HD7 from T-Mobile as an Add-a-Line for $0 (they waive the Activation Fee) with a $15 Data Plan and Insurance.
2. Swap the SIMs in the Vibrant and HD7s.
3. Wait 2 Weeks.
3a. Sell the Vibrant for $200+
4. ETF the Line you added when you got the HD7 (it's using your older SIM*).
5. Total Price: $200 (Price of the phone for a new customer).
* You will still qualify for upgrade pricing when you would have if you had kept the Vibrant, because you still have the Vibrant SIM, you ETF'd the new SIM instead
If you're on T-Mobile, watch the promotions and wait. The only time you should feel like you have to get a new phone early is if you've been burned with an earlier purchase - like many [US] Galaxy S users feel they were.
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yeah, you could do that. but you pay more monthly on a contract plan than a no contract plan. plus, if i have a problem with something (or want to go to a contract for a phone), tmob is much more receptive to what i want when i'm off contract (and they check how long i've had service with them).
and i think you mean cancel the new sim/line and pay the etf on that. otherwise you lose future upgrade capability on the existing line. you physically swap the sim card between the two phones, but you cancel the sim that came with the <new phone line>. sim cards can't be reused, so you wouldn't be able to make your old sim use the new line's number and i'm pretty sure a sim has to be associated with a line.
why wait 2 weeks and why buy insurance? or is the two weeks to make sure the imei of the new phone takes for insurance (i don't have phone insurance, it's pointless)?
the hd7? that's a downgrade... and 'get a new phone early'? two years (22 months) between new phones is ridiculous, or at least is for any smartphone. once a year is about right with how technology is moving on phones.
i'm much happier just paying full price than doing some 'activate new line, call and ***** they didn't waive the activation fee, make sure the imei transfered for insurance, cancel line, pay more each month, etc.' dance.
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Buy a phone from craigslist and sell your old one on craigslist.
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That depends on where you live. Since this is the Vibrant forum I'll assume we're talking T-Mobile...
Not many people around here have T-Mobile, and their coverage is worst than Boost and Virgin so there are probably more people on Boost than on T-Mobile. Trying to sell a T-Mobile phone here won't get you anywhere.
Plus, the Value of these phones have gone down quite a bit.
Most people don't really see a point in buying a phone at off-contract prices, or anything close, because even if you buy at contract price and ETF 2 weeks later, the phone is cheaper.
So I rather buy on contract knowing I'm not poor and can ETF at any time on T-Mobile than buy a $500 phone and act like I'm better off because I'm off-contract.
$499 off contract, or $199 (with rebats) + $200 ETF fee two a few weeks later to end the contract?
Don't see a point in paying those prices for off-contract phones...
The contract prices only matter if you stay on the contract the entire time, but it's ALMOST ALWAYS cheaper to buy at contract price and ETF on T-Mobile later, than to buy an off-contract phone. You're actually throwing money away if you buy it off-contract.
That is precisely why AT&T and Verizon raised their ETF prices up about $100 bucks. To make the contract price + ETF = retail price. T-Mobile still hasn't, so it's cheaper to buy on contract and ETF break the contract after the first two weeks or month (depending on if you're waiting on rebates).

Atrix for $199 or wait for a different phone?

Hi, I am new around here. Been lurking around for a little while.
I recently lost my iPhone 3Gs so I have been looking around to replace it with an Android phone bc I am kinda bored of iOS.
I dont have an upgrade til at the end of the year so I decided to call the customer relations and see if they can work out something for me. I remember reading in a "how much did you get your atrix for?" thread where the guy said he was leaving unless they gave him a killer deal and got his for $130 +$180 in credit and no renewal of contract which is hard for me to believe. I tried and the best they gave me was $199 with extension.
I am having a hard time deciding whether to move to verizon or t-mobile but they dont have any phones that i am interested in at the moment although it seems like there will be some interesting phones on the way soon.
but I need a smartphone again ASAP bc the 'dumbphone' is makin me feel dumb.
Would it be worth it to try to hustle them a bit more for a better deal or just move on to a different network? I thought they'd give me a better deal since i been with them for a decade now but i do think $199 for the atrix is still pretty reasonable. It is just that I can always use a better deal.
Sorry if this thread is pointless but any input will be appreciated. Thanks.
$199 for an Atrix off-contract is a killer price considering that you can still take your business elsewhere and get at least $400 on ebay for the Atrix if you decide to move.
that's a great deal! go for it, you'll love the atrix
awesome deal
worst case u can still sell it on craigslist for 450+ and u are not in a contract
Honestly... I'd hold off for another month or so and wait for the SGS2. The atrix is a good phone. I jumped on this bandwagon a little early and regret it; I'm waiting for the SGS2 international (I-9100) and jumping ship as soon as it's out.
Don't get me wrong though - if you're not a tinkerer then this is a great phone. And coming from an iphone I assume you don't care about the phone being locked up seeing as how that's Apples M.O. It could be a good phone for you but personally, I want to customize it more than I'm currently able to.
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Honestly... I'd hold off for another month or so and wait for the SGS2. The atrix is a good phone. I jumped on this bandwagon a little early and regret it; I'm waiting for the SGS2 international (I-9100) and jumping ship as soon as it's out.
Don't get me wrong though - if you're not a tinkerer then this is a great phone. And coming from an iphone I assume you don't care about the phone being locked up seeing as how that's Apples M.O. It could be a good phone for you but personally, I want to customize it more than I'm currently able to.
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Isn't the SGS2 International like $950 off contract lol.
Yep that's a great deal!!!
It is great phone and hopefully in couple months or sooner the boot loader will get crack which im hopping for it because that will unlock tons more enjoyment from it and with the docks imagine what you can do with those. And even Motorola might even release something or unlock the boot loader when they see sales going down because everyone wants too unlock the full potential of this device!!
I got the atrix laptop dock also which is pretty nice but it just needs a bit more speed.
I tried and the best they gave me was $199 with extension.
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So I read this as, $199 for a 2 year contract (EXTENSION)..
That's the same as everyone else.. How is that a good deal?
you can get atrix for 119 in costco.
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i was about to say the same thing
i was about to say the same thing. bought it few days ago for $120. The good thing is if I dont like the phone I can return it within 90 days without any charges and if something good comes by then (lets say Iphone 5,6 or whtever)..all I have to pay is the difference which is $80...
the price is with contract extension so basically the same price anyone can get. I just said that they would give me the contract/upgrade price now instead of waiting until the end of the year when I will be "eligible" for an upgrade. My bad for the misunderstanding. I'm not sure if I will be able to get the costco price since I can't get it for $199 even from the corporate store. As far as i know, AT&T will only allow me to get it at a discounted price through the customer relations department.
I guess I'll try if I can have the customer relations put a note on my account so that any at&t carrier can see my eligibility.
Hell, you should just buy it outright for the price; if you don't like it you can just sell it for 400+.
The phone is great though, I only took mine back because of the locked bootloader, the galaxy s 2 is coming out, and I just got bored with it.
Amazon's web store has it for $149. You'll lose your unlimited data plan if you have one, but I read that if you badger them enough they'll give it back to you.
That's what I'm going to try anyway!
do you mean if you get it from amazon?
Yes, they force you to change your data plan. Last night I found out you can also get that price at Radioshack, but I don't know if the data plan hassle remains.
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Yes, they force you to change your data plan. Last night I found out you can also get that price at Radioshack, but I don't know if the data plan hassle remains.
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I bought mines from radioshack and yes i was forced to convert to one of their new DATA plans, After the changes were done i called up at&t to have my unlimited databack. They submitted a case to their so called "BUFU dept" and they switched my unlimited back in 3 days.
Keep in mind i called before the changes and confirmed that they will put back my data plan
Got mine at Radio Shack for $149. No hassle at all with data plan or setup. Took less time than it typically does at an ATT store.

Trying to find a way to buy, US.

Hey guys
I want the Nexus 6P. I've decided nothing else is desirable.
But carriers aren't selling it in the US. I'm on ATT next program - for those who don't know what that is I pay ~$26 a month on top of my phone bill for 12,16, or 24 months. I've enjoyed it, I get an upgrade every year and don't have to houce my pockets. It's just what my bill is.
However I don't have that option with the Nexus. But I want it.
My thought was I'll just upgrade to an iPhone 6S and flip that on CL or swappa or something to get the funds in cash to pay for a Nexus 6P. Of course I'd be without a phone for a day or two, not a big deal in the grand scheme.
Except I talked to someone at work who said the problem with that is the phone you get through ATT is "financed" thus if I sesell it whoever buys would have issues and it would be labeled stolen.... I wonder if anyone can confirm this.
Are there any other people in a similar position to me who are lookin at ways to get a Nexus 6P?
I don't have the cash up front which is why I don't just order it.
Thanks guys.
Matt
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Hey guys
I want the Nexus 6P. I've decided nothing else is desirable.
But carriers aren't selling it in the US. I'm on ATT next program - for those who don't know what that is I pay ~$26 a month on top of my phone bill for 12,16, or 24 months. I've enjoyed it, I get an upgrade every year and don't have to houce my pockets. It's just what my bill is.
However I don't have that option with the Nexus. But I want it.
My thought was I'll just upgrade to an iPhone 6S and flip that on CL or swappa or something to get the funds in cash to pay for a Nexus 6P. Of course I'd be without a phone for a day or two, not a big deal in the grand scheme.
Except I talked to someone at work who said the problem with that is the phone you get through ATT is "financed" thus if I sesell it whoever buys would have issues and it would be labeled stolen.... I wonder if anyone can confirm this.
Are there any other people in a similar position to me who are lookin at ways to get a Nexus 6P?
I don't have the cash up front which is why I don't just order it.
Thanks guys.
Matt
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Did you try here?
http://www.gethuawei.com/affirm
They have a financing option, but the interest is brutal if you don't care about that type of thing.
Semantics said:
Did you try here?
http://www.gethuawei.com/affirm
They have a financing option, but the interest is brutal if you don't care about that type of thing.
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Definitely not an option for me... I already pay an arm and a leg for loans as I put myself through paramedic school... Don't need another!
But thank you
Matt
CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Definitely not an option for me... I already pay an arm and a leg for loans as I put myself through paramedic school... Don't need another!
But thank you
Matt
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I totally agree. I hear you can get it financed with Google FI for no interest but I can't confirm it just read it here. Was just throwing out an option for those people who don't mind paying upwards of 30% interest.
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I totally agree. I hear you can get it financed with Google FI for no interest but I can't confirm it just read it here. Was just throwing out an option for those people who don't mind paying upwards of 30% interest.
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I see that.
Do you know anything about the NEXT program doing that to a phone if you sell it?
I don't need another phone plan just to finance a phone, though I am interested in Project Fi I am not interested in it at this very moment.
I have looked on the ATT forums. It appears I can sell a phone that is on the NEXT program, however the buyer must be on ATT service...
I am still on the hook for the payments on the phone as well. Despite the risk this is an option. I do not want it to be the only option. Still searching..
The NEXT program and others like it are a rip off to consumers, before they subsidized the phones so you'd sign a 2 year agreement, now you pay the full retail price over time AND you sign a 2 year agreement? RIPOFF.
You've locked yourself into buying their phones, so you are stuck buying their phones.
The only 2 ways to get the Nexus 6P right now is through Google or Huawei.
Big Cam said:
The NEXT program and others like it are a rip off to consumers, before they subsidized the phones so you'd sign a 2 year agreement, now you pay the full retail price over time AND you sign a 2 year agreement? RIPOFF.
You've locked yourself into buying their phones, so you are stuck buying their phones.
The only 2 ways to get the Nexus 6P right now is through Google or Huawei.
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I have 4 other lines in the account, it's not a ripoff. One other is on NEXT.
We would renew anyways, however there's no problem there. However now I'm looking at the Nexus and there lies the problem you bring up..
I think I might look into project fi, but then I'm paying 25% of my bill right now for one line. Not really interested.
Thus my thought was I'll get an iPhone 6s and sell it to someone who has ATT but no upgrade or something. Doubt there's a huge market for that..
I'm guessing you could unlock it and use it on another network though they say you can't. If someone buys it, it's no longer my issue. I'll pay the bill every month as I have for 3 years. They want to try and cheat the system that's not my doing..
Then I'd have the money to get a Nexus. However I don't have it without something like that. So, I'm stuck. Really looking for options here but I don't see a whole lot of them.
Matt
CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
I have 4 other lines in the account, it's not a ripoff. One other is on NEXT.
huge market for that..
I'm guessing you could unlock it and use it on another network though they say you can't. If someone buys it, it's no longer my issue. I'll pay the bill every month as I have for 3 years. They want to try and cheat the system that's not my doing..
Matt
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I actually think this is probably your best route, I think you'd be surprised the market for a brand new phone like the 6s.
If you ask a little under retail, I bet that'll sell quick, those who broke theirs but don't have an upgrade. On Verizon there is always a market for those who still have unlimited data. I bought my last two Verizon phones this way because I can't change my contract or I lose unlimited, does AT&T still have people on grandfathered unlimited plans? Or did they axe those?
Either way I think you'll easily get $500+ for an iphone 6s, which would help you recoup the cost of the Nexus.
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I actually think this is probably your best route, I think you'd be surprised the market for a brand new phone like the 6s.
If you ask a little under retail, I bet that'll sell quick, those who broke theirs but don't have an upgrade. On Verizon there is always a market for those who still have unlimited data. I bought my last two Verizon phones this way because I can't change my contract or I lose unlimited, does AT&T still have people on grandfathered unlimited plans? Or did they axe those?
Either way I think you'll easily get $500+ for an iphone 6s, which would help you recoup the cost of the Nexus.
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I do not know, I was on T Mobile for close to a decade before we finally got tired of losing signal strength every time you walk into a building, among other things.
I will look at going that route then. It may be a month or so, and that will leave me with some time to see if carriers may indeed sell the phone, though it doesn't look to be the case.
I want to look into other routes here, but I don't see any that are jumping out at me. Thanks for your replies
Matt
CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
I'm guessing you could unlock it and use it on another network though they say you can't. If someone buys it, it's no longer my issue. I'll pay the bill every month as I have for 3 years. They want to try and cheat the system that's not my doing..
Then I'd have the money to get a Nexus. However I don't have it without something like that. So, I'm stuck. Really looking for options here but I don't see a whole lot of them.
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Sell the phone if you can unlock it. I have AT&T NEXT, also. As long as you keep making payments on it they won't do anything. You just keep making payments as if you're "keeping" the phone. So you can sell it, you're just responsible to pay it off still if you have time remaining on the contract. I have a HTC One M8 that I got through AT&T and converted to a Google Play Edition. Once my 6P comes in I'll sell the M8 and continue business as usual paying it off monthly. When you go to de-activate your current phone and activate the Nexus just tell them you're keeping the phone and continuing to pay it off. They won't care.
EDIT: I should add I did talk to AT&T about this. The rep said if I sold the phone I can continue paying it off monthly as usual and wasn't required to pay it off in full to sell it. He said I wouldn't need to pay it off or anything to de-activate it and add the Nexus, either. You're not required to pay the phone off in full unless you're keeping it and want to upgrade to a new phone early through AT&T. Since you're upgrading through Google by buying the phone from them and just activating it on AT&T, you do not have to pay anything to AT&T. You just need to make sure the old phone is de-activated before you sell it, obviously.
Only problem, swappa won't sell it because it's financed. If you are honest with people, only an idiot will buy it for anything close to retail, because nothing is stopping you from cancelling service and there by blacklisting the phone.
Not saying you would stop service, but how would a potential buyer know.
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I might have to do this. Seems a bit much for a phone. But it is a Nexus.
@_Dennis_
I'm looking to sell third party... And I understand that. I plan to be up front to potential buyers -- someone will need it. Only giving myself a few days to handle this when/if I go this route. I don't want to go through all these steps.
Matt
I heard a rumor that carriers may have the 6P sometime later this year. Whether or not that's true though, I can't really say. So, if you don't find a way to get it now, you may be in luck in another few months.
sfreemanoh said:
I heard a rumor that carriers may have the 6P sometime later this year. Whether or not that's true though, I can't really say. So, if you don't find a way to get it now, you may be in luck in another few months.
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The phone I have isn't currently paid off for another 4. I have to pay the little remainder off if I upgrade early.
Matt
Still searching for another option... Hope ATT does carry it
Matt
I don't see that anyone mentioned this, but if you buy the Nexus 6P from Huawei's website you can select to do a payment plan. If you don't have the cash up front to fully pay for the phone then that may be a viable option.
This is like Verizon's new setup... I switched our plan over to their new plan system to get cheaper data... however I've never bought a phone through their little gimmick.... so I don't currently pay any extra/month for a phone. I also never will play their little game.. I'll take their savings and buy my phones elsewhere like my new 6P and just swap sim cards or go get a new sim card if they change again in the future. So really I got a pretty good deal switching while I already had a phone I bought lol.
Zeebz said:
I don't see that anyone mentioned this, but if you buy the Nexus 6P from Huawei's website you can select to do a payment plan. If you don't have the cash up front to fully pay for the phone then that may be a viable option.
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Already mentioned, however the interest is outrageous. 30% or something I believe.
I did call ATT just out of curiosity, they can't confirm anything about the N6P. Will have to wait it out and just let it play out.
Matt

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