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Nexus S super amoled display Vs Vibrant

I have both the Nexus S and a Vibrant. I must say that the Nexus S super amoled display looks better then the Vibrant super amoled display and, it's not the brightness. I turned the Nexus S screen to the lowest setting and, I turned the Vibrant to the highest setting as a result the Nexus S screen looks alot better. What's you all thoughts on this?...please don't say that the vibrant is a defective product because, this will be my 4'th Vibrant do to this...thanks.
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Every SAMOLED screen has its own characteristics, there are no two SAMOLED screens that are identical, they just have to fall between an upper and lower specification
JD
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Thanks.
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I think that a newer display should come with a change log...lol but, trust me the Nexus S display is indeed a different better screen. I thought that a LCD was a LCD Super Amoled was a Super Amoled, just a different resolution and, size. It would be nice to let a customer know what they are buying. Thanks.
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Really, looking at both displays and back of the boxes checking to see if both are super amoled displays drove me crazy, I knew it was't my eyes. Sucks my Vibrant SUCK!
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I've noticed this as well... that is of you didn't get one with the ugly yellow/grey tint screen. I'm on my 6th sns and this one has the best amoled screen I've ever seen. I went through a few vibrants and ended up with a pretty nice one there too but there's no comparison with the particular nexus s. It even looks better than my buddy's fascinate which has a better screen than any vibrant I've seen or owned. Whites on this phone are awesome and very neutral with barely any tint at all. Even at its lowest brightness setting I don't have any purple or pink on the status bar pull down. Even on my phones that didn't have this exact quality screen still were great looking amoleds.
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I had 3 NS prior to the one I have now. The first one had a piss yellow screen, the second one had a off purple hue and the third had wifi issues....
The forth one is perfect in every way
JD
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I switched from the Sprint Epic to the Nexus S and i have to agree, my epics screen just didn't look as good as the nexus one did. On the epic i would normally set the brightness to halfway and it looked decent but on my nexus i leave it on auto and regardless of where i am it looks amazing. I don't know why but it does look better

So I take it, Super Amoled's are not all the same. I think they don't tell us this because of business reasons. Besides, I think it would be cool to know the name of my Nexus S screen cause I know for a fact the Nexus S has the best Amoled display out there.
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jalyn02 said:
So I take it, Super Amoled's are not all the same. I think they don't tell us this because of business reasons. Besides, I think it would be cool to know the name of my Nexus S screen cause I know for a fact the Nexus S has the best Amoled display out there.
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My guess is that they use the same basic technology but given the time between release dates some new parts or processes may have gone into the making of the Nexus S screens. The Nexus S definitely has a Super Active-Matrix Organic Light Emitting Diode (SAMOLED) but just looks slightly better. Heck it might even be due to the Contour Display (as it is called), who knows?

kenvan19 said:
My guess is that they use the same basic technology but given the time between release dates some new parts or processes may have gone into the making of the Nexus S screens. The Nexus S definitely has a Super Active-Matrix Organic Light Emitting Diode (SAMOLED) but just looks slightly better. Heck it might even be due to the Contour Display (as it is called), who knows?
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Contour Display is just what I was about to say but, you beat me to it. Thanks Guy's I thought this would be a good post and it was. Again thanks.
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My Vibrant's screen looks a million times better than my Nexus. I'm on my second Nexus, both of them were bad, and so was the demo in the store. I'd rather have the blue tinge on the Vibrant over either screen I have seen on the Nexus.

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My Vibrant's screen looks a million times better than my Nexus. I'm on my second Nexus, both of them were bad, and so was the demo in the store. I'd rather have the blue tinge on the Vibrant over either screen I have seen on the Nexus.
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sorry but if that's the case you need to return your ns again

vdub804 said:
sorry but if that's the case you need to return your ns again
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I also dabble in mastering the obvious on occasion.

its funny when it comes to screen on the nexus S, we find almost the same people replying " including me "
i think we reached a points where we are the " experts " of the screens now.
**** the phone. lets test screens. more fun
i think i would be a great quality control employee if this keeps up ^_^

I've been talking to supercurio about the screen issues, he says that they are fixable and that the contrast and gamma settings aren't correct. This totally makes sense to me, but I'm waiting to hear back on whether it will be included in his program or if this is a setting somewhere where I can adjust it.

j0hnZ said:
I've been talking to supercurio about the screen issues, he says that they are fixable and that the contrast and gamma settings aren't correct. This totally makes sense to me, but I'm waiting to hear back on whether it will be included in his program or if this is a setting somewhere where I can adjust it.
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That would be awesome, Keep me updated.
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Hide status bar due to potential screen burn in issue

Hi
I am a little worried about burn in issue. So i would like to hide status bar to minimize it. I have heard some galaxy s2 users have this issue.
I tried several launchers and they only hide status bar on launcher screens. When I use application it does not hide it.
I am wondering if there is any way I can hide status bar all the time.
Thanks
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Burn in? Wow, it's been a few years since I have heard that term! I see no reason why the Galaxy Note, or the S2 for that matter should ever have a burn in issue...the technology just does not allow that to happen...
On another not, the Note and the S2 have different screens. The S2 uses a Super AMOLED Plus RGB, while the Note used a Super AMOLED Pentile.

All AMOLED have potential burn in issue. See wiki page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_LED
Unfortunately it is more likely to happen compared to LCD or IPS as AMOLED as it burns itself.
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Unless you're using your Note as a primary display for your desktop and leaving it on 20 hours a day, I don't think there's much of a chance of burning in...

Unless you're gonna contantly use your Note for 5+ years, don't worry about it.
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Spartan2x said:
Burn in? Wow, it's been a few years since I have heard that term! I see no reason why the Galaxy Note, or the S2 for that matter should ever have a burn in issue...the technology just does not allow that to happen...
On another not, the Note and the S2 have different screens. The S2 uses a Super AMOLED Plus RGB, while the Note used a Super AMOLED Pentile.
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This wins silliest post of the week.
AmoLED's are notorious for burning wearing out especially blues and greens. Look at any galaxy S gt-i9000 that have been used for more than 4-6 months and you can clearly see the wearing out of the led's where the notification bar is static.
Static images on an amoled screen eventually wear out the pixels fading them out. This is a known fact and I'm reminded of it every time I look at my galaxy s.

regarding the OP's question. LauncherPro among other 3rd party launchers only allow hiding of the notification bar on the home screen. There are several google help forum posts asking google to implement a setting that would allow you to hide the notification bar in apps. The official request was denied by google citing that the notification bar is an integral part of the android os and therefore should be constant throughout apps. Now there are apps that require full screen pixel width like angry birds and such but that is only if the developer codes the app to NOT show the notification bar.
Bottom line its up to developer to include a hide notification bar setting as google will not cook it into the OS as an option.
Hope this helps.
Here is the official google response from an android dev http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9063
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Thank you inurb. Now I understand why I cannot hide status bar.
Thank you again.
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ADW Launcher has a feature that hides the notification bar when you swipe UP on the screen. Apart from that, if we can change the fonts on a regular basis, we might avoid this issue.

Is the process of burn-in similar to that on Plasma TV screens?? Then the solutions (or things to avoid) would be the same as well for SuperAMOLEDs. There wouldn't be any apps available that could facilitate pixel shifting, would there??
I come from the land of LCD, so I'm terrified of any possibility of burn-in on the new shiny monster!
BTW, Go Launcher EX also has the option of hiding the notification bar (and the dock menus as well!)

I've had the PM from the clock on the status bar burned into my Samsung Captivate's screen....as well as the digits from the clock but they're less defined.

If you are like me, you use the device 50% portrait and 50% landscape.
Wouldn't that pretty much eliminate the burn in concern?

I had the Wave/S1/S2 all of them had this "Burn-in" or rather burn out issue. The Galaxy S2 had the shortest time of only 2 months of use while the Samsung Wave took about 9 months and the S1 about 4. Only the "M" sumbol and the battery indicator burned in though.

Hi All,
came across this thread when looking for a solution for SGS1.
it seems that Burn in is indeed a problem for AMOLED screens.
in my situation, I've found a burn cause by Waze (of course, any app that would leave the screen on would cause it).
sadly enough, my phone is only 6 months old and I use Waze ~30 min. a day - not much for a burn you think? wrong!
for now, i've set Waze to hide the point bar and the zoom control, but still many objects on the screen are static - including the notification bar.
does anyone has a good solution?

I'm wondering if "burn-in" has to partially do with the environment the phone is being used in (the other being reason being a bad batch). For example, tropical (ie. "hot") environments may cause screen issues sooner because the screen can't cope with the heat?
I had my S2 for about 7 months before getting the Note and the screen was on around 40-50 minutes a day. Didn't notice any burn-in during the entire time. I always kept the phone's screen out of direct sunlight, and it was winter/autumn during the time I was using my S2.

I saw an S2 got a burn in within 2 months for the lock screen. =)
It's not just burn-in, I believe it's a combination of the burn-in and the specific colors in the LEDs dimming (i.e., losing their initial brightness).
It's best to change wallpapers every so often to make sure that the LED colors are wearing out evenly. If not, over time, you'll get weird tints in parts of the screen due to a dimming of certain colors, etc.

This burn in issue is very troubling to me and may force me to reevaluate my intention of getting the Note. I just Googled AMOLED and the Wikipedia article seems to imply the organic material degrades over time and I'm thinking this is the cause of the so called burn in issue.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMOLED
The other thing it mentions is the dramatic difference in power the display uses depending on the colors being displayed with black letter on a white background eating more than 4X the power of white letters on a black background.
This bothers me not just because I was planning to get the Note but I was also looking at the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7. If a phone has problems with burn in problems in as little as half a year how long before a tab with an AMOLED/SAMOLED display has the burn in issue.
On the upside, knowing that switching the colors can greatly reduce battery drain is good to know...
Brian

Yup, this is why I still prefer standard LCD currently, or Super LCD. Sure, the blacks aren't blacks, but at least the tech is tried and true. =)
Raptor1956 said:
This burn in issue is very troubling to me and may force me to reevaluate my intention of getting the Note. I just Googled AMOLED and the Wikipedia article seems to imply the organic material degrades over time and I'm thinking this is the cause of the so called burn in issue.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMOLED
The other thing it mentions is the dramatic difference in power the display uses depending on the colors being displayed with black letter on a white background eating more than 4X the power of white letters on a black background.
This bothers me not just because I was planning to get the Note but I was also looking at the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7. If a phone has problems with burn in problems in as little as half a year how long before a tab with an AMOLED/SAMOLED display has the burn in issue.
On the upside, knowing that switching the colors can greatly reduce battery drain is good to know...
Brian
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Hardly a fix but I use Opera for web browsing so the status bar is hidden for me (and full screen browsing is lovely )

inurb said:
This wins silliest post of the week.
AmoLED's are notorious for burning wearing out especially blues and greens. Look at any galaxy S gt-i9000 that have been used for more than 4-6 months and you can clearly see the wearing out of the led's where the notification bar is static.
Static images on an amoled screen eventually wear out the pixels fading them out. This is a known fact and I'm reminded of it every time I look at my galaxy s.
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It's something you "Tech guys" seam to leave out when you do your iPhone vs Android discussions, I have never read up about it anywhere. You would think such a glaring problem with be talked about more. I'll have to look into it more now that I am waiting on the White Note from hantec.(coming from the iPhone 4 that I have had for 18 months now with no issues other then the inferiority complex in screen size)

How to avoid screen aging?

I have my Galaxy Note for 10 weeks and after using it always with 100% brightness there are aging effects.
Specially at blue backgrounds, but also at white and gray I can see the home screen icons, the clock and some buttons from jelly defense (I played jelly defense 3 weeks daily 2 hours) shining darker. (you can see it on the photo)
Now my Galaxy Note is in service for screen changing.
But what can I do in the future to avoid this aging effects? 80% brightness, 90% brightness?
Samsung didn't know this problems (I'll not believe it).
Has anyone practical experience with this problem?

Typically Blue pixels age the fastest. So pick a warm/red background. Avoid 100% brightness. Use auto if possible. Avoid leave screen on for prolonged period. Avoid static text or icon on the screen for too long. Basically the same care you would do to a Plasma TV except even the plasma TV screen(around 80,000 to 100,000 hrs) lasts 10 times longer than the AMOLED screen (estimated around 10,000 to 20,000 hrs).

Looks like you've discovered amoleds dirty little secret. I avoid pixel burnout by using launchers that auto hide the notification bar as well as browsers that allow you to hide the navigation bar such as opera. Opera let's you browse in fill screen mode.
I often refrain from using apps that show static images for long periods of time. I try to use the browser for everything that can be done through the regular Web portal of a site.
There is no way of getting around static images in apps unless the Dev accounts for it. Some devs are aware of amoled burn out and have options to hide navigation bars.
Ultimately you have to be mindful of static images and make sure to either avoid them on your screen for prolonged periods of time or remember to rotate your screen.
This is why I'm not looking forward to virtual buttons on ICS. It will destroy amoled screens for sure. Hopefully Samsung will retain physical button(s)

10 weeks is a pretty short life time, My friend's Nexus One (1yr++) does not have the very slightest hint of screen aging why my the galaxy S2 that I used for just 2 months already had the AM/PM burned in.
Its normal for OLED screens to age but it should not be this fast, this is probably why apple is not looking into OLED screens as the quality and or lifespan could be problematic.

There are some manufacturing defects. Some screens are just fade faster than others. But in general, if you know how to take good care of your screen, it will last a long time. My old Galaxy S lasted over a year without any noticeable burn-in. My new Galaxy S2 has been 4 months w/o any problem.

foxbat121 said:
There are some manufacturing defects. Some screens are just fade faster than others. But in general, if you know how to take good care of your screen, it will last a long time. My old Galaxy S lasted over a year without any noticeable burn-in. My new Galaxy S2 has been 4 months w/o any problem.
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like the part where you say "noticeable"
no matter how much you try to take care of it. It will happen. Its already there. (Depends to which degree)
My advice apart those ones about hiding the element that are always present.
Do not look for a screen burn in. Or do not look at the ****ty quality of the AMOLED. When you would look on for example on grey/ brown background easiest to spot when going to the marker you would notice the differences between the different parts of the screen. Its not perfectly even from the time its build. The color is displayed in different shades usually presenting itself in "lines".
Had my Note for 1 hour and I noticed it. Brand new.
But then again I know what to look for (proud owner of Galaxy S) and where to look for it.
I bought this device for the resolution and power. Not for the screen build quality

When I say 'noticeable', I meant to use screen test patterns. Last time I did that with my Galaxy S, I don't see any burn in with the test patterns at all. But I agree one should not purposfully sort after the burn in. It will always be there. But I also don't need live in panic. The great contrast of the screen (or infinite black) outweights any shortcomings it has. Side by side with an iPhone 4/4s, I simply can't stand the foggy looking screen of the LCD on iPhones. Every iPhone owners I encounter liked my SAMOLE screen better.

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But then again I know what to look for (proud owner of Galaxy S) and where to look for it.
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Hello fellow Galaxy S owner, This is the phone that brought up my standards and expectation for a SAMOLED device. I never saw any lines/uneven screen brightness and other garbage on my Galaxy S, even on greys. So this has brought up my expectation for a very high level which was crushed by the Galaxy Note's screen.
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I bought this device for the resolution and power. Not for the screen build quality
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Good for you, I bought the device as a while package with the top concern about screen build quality and as an HD playback device which it does not meet the purpose

Just a quick tip I picked up from someone else on this site (I forget now who it was, sorry). Change your clock from 12 to 24 hour every now and then (and visa versa), it shifts all the icons along a little

This is both an interesting and depressing post to find. I was so excited to order my International Note soon, but now I'm super paranoid about screen aging. I've read so much conflicting information about it online, I don't even know what to believe anymore.

Featherbeard said:
This is both an interesting and depressing post to find. I was so excited to order my International Note soon, but now I'm super paranoid about screen aging. I've read so much conflicting information about it online, I don't even know what to believe anymore.
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In terms of lifespan, LCDs still trump amoleds. That's a fact you'll have to live with.

No screen technology is perfect. SAMOLED for the moment has the problem that pixels decrease in brightness with ussage. So try to minimize the amount of light you get off the screen. That will also give you more battery life.
Try to use black backgrounds, and white text on black background if the application allows it. Of course if you spend 3 hours a day on a game with static icons and menus, that will wear some pixels more than others and you'll end up with something like the OP.
If you go looking for small variations of color, you're going to find them. But the superior brightness and contrast of a SAMOLED screen wins me over. Even when I know its effemeral and will degrade with time. But anyway, who keeps a phone more than 2 years?

Yeah, but I just found this information for the first time today, which is why I'm so depressed. I'm a digital artist so having a nice little on-the-go sketchpad has me super excited, but also worried because of the screen. Expansys tells me there's a 2 year warranty, but I don't know how that would work on an international phone if the screen goes bad...
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vcespon : Yeah, I normally keep the brightness on my Atrix down quite low anyways. The max brightness setting is *blindingly* bright. As for the 'who keeps a phone more then 2 years", I had my iphone 3gs for quite awhile thank you very much. That and if I spend 600-700 bucks on this baby I want it to last! If I get at the very least a year to a year and a half out of the screen I'll be somewhat happy, though closer to 2 would be better obviously. I wonder what the long-term outlook is for the life of these screens anyways. Does anyone know the mean-time-before-failure for them?

I would also try using black backgrounds or dark themes on as many apps as possible also. Like tapatalk or k9 for instance.
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I wonder what the long-term outlook is for the life of these screens anyways. Does anyone know the mean-time-before-failure for them?
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I think there are some references how long the pixels "live". You should google. Even though Samsung said that they used new materials to build the displays.
I can tell you one thing you get used to the inferior screen in time.(Few rants not and then) So I wouldn't worry about that. If it really fails you. Meaning someone else will notice something wrong on the screen no just you. Claim warranty
Also to pointing out. There is shor-term memory effect as well. I think I already posted some bad quality pics here about that from my SGS. > http://goo.gl/URYzm I do not remember if this is a burn it or just the memory effect. I think its the memory bla bla. Second pic is best.

Thanks for the information! I think I remembered someone saying that the short-term memory effect gets better over time as well. I'm mostly worried about the screen quality as I plan on doing a lot of sketching on it, which kind of sucks because it'll most likely be using a light-colored background then. :\ I wonder if the AT&T version will have the exact same screens or if they'll be a slightly updated version. I guess not considering AMOLED is still AMOLED.
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I think there are some references how long the pixels "live". You should google. Even though Samsung said that they used new materials to build the displays.
I can tell you one thing you get used to the inferior screen in time.(Few rants not and then) So I wouldn't worry about that. If it really fails you. Meaning someone else will notice something wrong on the screen no just you. Claim warranty
Also to pointing out. There is shor-term memory effect as well. I think I already posted some bad quality pics here about that from my SGS. > http://goo.gl/URYzm I do not remember if this is a burn it or just the memory effect. I think its the memory bla bla. Second pic is best.
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Featherbeard said:
Thanks for the information! I think I remembered someone saying that the short-term memory effect gets better over time as well. I'm mostly worried about the screen quality as I plan on doing a lot of sketching on it, which kind of sucks because it'll most likely be using a light-colored background then. :\ I wonder if the AT&T version will have the exact same screens or if they'll be a slightly updated version. I guess not considering AMOLED is still AMOLED.
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You worry too much. And you do not even have that phone yet.
First of all not sure how its in your country, but here you can return in if you dont like it in a week I think.
Also if it becomes really apparent you really can go to a service center. I do not remember someone saying that samsung refused to change the screen.
Also I was ranting here already a year ago about the Galaxy S. I hate SAMOLED soo much since I got the SGS (18 months ago). I own an iPhone 4 and love retina and SLCD. And yet bought the Galaxy Note as well (despite the fact I knew how faulty it will be and how I will hate it )

Hey, I'm paranoid! I *really* get upset when I get a device that either isn't stable or has something wrong or defective about it. (Especially something that costs this much!) I'm in the US and am debating ordering through Expansys (USA), and I've heard they have I believe it was a 2 year warranty, but I have a feeling I'd have to send it to Expansys and have them take care of it if something went wrong. I can't see Samsung handling an international phone's repair in the US?
Aren't we strange with how we buy our gadgets? We know we will hate something and yet still buy it.

Featherbeard said:
Hey, I'm paranoid! I *really* get upset when I get a device that either isn't stable or has something wrong or defective about it. (Especially something that costs this much!) I'm in the US and am debating ordering through Expansys (USA), and I've heard they have I believe it was a 2 year warranty, but I have a feeling I'd have to send it to Expansys and have them take care of it if something went wrong. I can't see Samsung handling an international phone's repair in the US?
Aren't we strange with how we buy our gadgets? We know we will hate something and yet still buy it.
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All oled displays suffer from amoled burn out. Not much you can do.

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Try to use black backgrounds, and white text on black background if the application allows it.
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Here you can see my homescreen. There is already white text on black background.
But I can see the shadows of the big clock and all icons. The shadows are the white parts of the homescreen; for example the "S" of my S-Banking-App is very visible as a black shadow in all other apps with lighter background (Internet-Browser, ebook-Reader etc..).
And the homescreen is visible only for a few minutes, because when I want to use an app I directly start the app. I don't look so much time to the homescreen and my Galaxy Note goes after one minute in standby mode.
That means only 10 minutes/day homescreen with 100% brightness is enough to damage the screen visible after 10 weeks?
Okay, playing Jelly Defense 2 hours a day at 100% brightness is not so good, but the problem is not the time, because a few minutes looking to the homescreen has nearly the same aging effect.

AMOLED burn in

Do you think that's going to be an issue with the status bar and apps like twilight?
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Do you think that's going to be an issue with the status bar and apps like twilight?
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I really don't think so-material design is a good thing for amoled displays since the notification bar isn't just black anymore...I have had my Nexus 6 for almost a year now and I don't have a burn in of the notification bar-there is some retention of the signal and battery icons but it goes away after a few minutes.
Now the navigation bar is a different story-I got mine disabled and I don't have any burn in or image retention there and I will be doing the same once I get my Nexus 6P.

My Galaxy S3 doesnt have notification bar burn in after 3 year. So i think it depend how you use your device

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My Galaxy S3 doesnt have notification bar burn in after 3 year. So i think it depend how you use your device
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more so with the panels they use imo. Most Nexus 6 phones had burn in very quickly. Mine included

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Do you think that's going to be an issue with the status bar and apps like twilight?
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Personally i wouldn't be too concerned. I've had a Galaxy S2, S3, S4, S6, and Note 4. None of them ever had a screen burn in.

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more so with the panels they use imo. Most Nexus 6 phones had burn in very quickly. Mine included
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You can't make the claim "most." Mine never had any burn-in whatsoever.
Don't use sweeping generalizations like that because you've visited a location (forum post) where the main topic was complaining about the burn-in. That does not mean "most" had burn-in problems.

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You can't make the claim "most." Mine never had any burn-in whatsoever.
Don't use sweeping generalizations like that because you've visited a location (forum post) where the main topic was complaining about the burn-in. That does not mean "most" had burn-in problems.
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umm, ok.

I've used AMOLED since the Galaxy S and never seen burn-in yet. Had 7 AMOLED phones (currently on Nexus 6) and 2 tablets (7.7 and Tab S) and have yet to experience even a hint of this burn-in phenomenon. The only time I've personally witnessed burnt OLED is on a Samsung Captivate demo unit.

I don't see it being an issue. I have used many panels with amoled including this Nexus 6 since release.

burn-in is based on usage. i have a '13 X and the nav bar def has some image retention. i also see the fade of the notification bar. it has to be in the right background to see them, but they are there.
don't leave your screen on all day and on the same app and you shouldn't have issues.

I noticed it very quickly on my nexus 6. I believe IPS screens get image retention, which is temporary and can go away. AMOLEDS actually get burned in and it is permanent. Google's insistence in using onscreen nav buttons are why I don't liek them.

I was very excited for the Nexus 6, despite it's AMOLED screen. It was love at first sight when it finally arrived and heartbreak a week later after returning it due to burn in with moderate use.
I was quite unhappy to hear Google was going AMOLED again. This would have been an immediate buy for me but now I just don't think I can do it.
Despite it's beauty I just think AMOLED is a flawed technology. For the price we pay for most of these phones a screen that can degrade or burn in just a few weeks to a year is unacceptable to me.

Sammae7 said:
I was very excited for the Nexus 6, despite it's AMOLED screen. It was love at first sight when it finally arrived and heartbreak a week later after returning it due to burn in with moderate use.
I was quite unhappy to hear Google was going AMOLED again. This would have been an immediate buy for me but now I just don't think I can do it.
Despite it's beauty I just think AMOLED is a flawed technology. For the price we pay for most of these phones a screen that can degrade or burn in just a few weeks to a year is unacceptable to me.
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I have rooted my Nexus 6 and disabled the navigation bar-using lmt and still do-no burn in here...Will be doing the same with the 6P...maybe you can consider the same?
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I've not seen any burn in at all on my Nexus 6 and with every new panel generation the problem diminishes. I've got some on my old galaxy nexus that is now used by my Grandmother but that's acceptable imo considering it's age.

Android Police just did a review and said they noticed slight screen burn-in after only a week?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/10/26/nexus-6p-review/

My Nexus 6 has no burn in after a year.

Tung_meister said:
I've not seen any burn in at all on my Nexus 6 and with every new panel generation the problem diminishes. I've got some on my old galaxy nexus that is now used by my Grandmother but that's acceptable imo considering it's age.
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'It's'?! She's your Grandmother, show some respect!

it's going to depend greatly on your specific panel. My N6 has no burn in at all and i've had it since launch. I even tested it on the app used in the AP review and don't see any burn at all. Typically, people come to forums to complain about an issue. Not too many people go running to the forums to tell everyone that their screen is fine. I look at it like this: Google has a pretty damn good policy on defective devices. If my screen has issues, i feel confident that Google will send me another free of charge.

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Android Police just did a review and said they noticed slight screen burn-in after only a week?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/10/26/nexus-6p-review/
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i need to know if they're confusing burn-in with image retention.

640k said:
i need to know if they're confusing burn-in with image retention.
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He does mean slight retention I believe
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Black streaks on Pixel screen?

I'm getting major throwback to my earlier AMOLED screen phones.
Just noticed my Pixel has those infamous streaks. Those used to be earlier generation AMOLED like the Galaxy Nexus. Especially visible on grey backgrounds?!
I thought manufacturers fixed these issues.
Anyone else see these?
Test to see on your Pixel use the Tapatalk app in dark mode and you will see it on the background grey.
Once you see you can't "unsee"
I just want to smoke sure I'm not a isolated case before deciding what to do about it.
Thanks.
KKH
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I don't see any streaks on my device.....
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None at all here as well, and i develop on it so the screen is on about 9-12 hours a day at least.

kkh786 said:
I'm getting major throwback to my earlier AMOLED screen phones.
Just noticed my Pixel has those infamous streaks. Those used to be earlier generation AMOLED like the Galaxy Nexus. Especially visible on grey backgrounds?!
I thought manufacturers fixed these issues.
Anyone else see these?
Test to see on your Pixel use the Tapatalk app in dark mode and you will see it on the background grey.
Once you see you can't "unsee"
I just want to smoke sure I'm not a isolated case before deciding what to do about it.
Thanks.
KKH
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Do you mean visible streaks when a black background moves across a dark blue or grey background? Almost like a trail?

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Do you mean visible streaks when a black background moves across a dark blue or grey background? Almost like a trail?
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The streaks or thin black lines and are stationary in the background.. mostly seen in shades of grey.
It used to be common with older generation AMOLED screens. Manufacturing defect was the common reason.
I'm not sure what to do now as other than this issue my device is perfect. RMA will be a hassle.
Will Google send me out a device before I send the current one back?
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kkh786 said:
The streaks or thin black lines and are stationary in the background.. mostly seen in shades of grey.
It used to be common with older generation AMOLED screens. Manufacturing defect was the common reason.
I'm not sure what to do now as other than this issue my device is perfect. RMA will be a hassle.
Will Google send me out a device before I send the current one back?
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Gotcha, I thought you were referring to the trail of darkness that is visible when a black background moves over a grey or blue one. This would be normal AMOLED behavior.
However stationary lines... I've never seen that before, definitely not on my Pixel. I would hope Google would send out a device first so you aren't out a phone. But expect a holding charge on the card used to purchase the device.

Mine has the lines. Really have to look to see them. Doesn't bother me the way it would years ago.
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bwheelies said:
Mine has the lines. Really have to look to see them. Doesn't bother me the way it would years ago.
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I agree it doesn't bother me as much as it would in the past but I have gone for RMA. If it's the same and not worse on the replacement then I'll just live with it.
There was an interesting video by Erica Griffin where she touches on this issue. Interesting watch.
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I only see it on XDA!
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I had it on my first Pixel, it was very obvious actually. Could even see it watching normal videos. I since swapped for the Pixel XL, and I still have at least one darker mark, visible when I pull down the notification panel. It is however very hard to see, I have to be looking for it so it doesn't bother me. But seems kinda weird.. my Nexus 6 never had any of those issues. (And I had 3, thank goodness for accidental coverage lol cracked the screen twice)

My replacement is much better but there are still some streaks. However I need to look for them. They are not that obvious. I'll stick with the handset for the time being. Guess this is a side effect of AMOLED tech.
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RMA'd twice due to AMOLED issues (streaks/tints), on my 3rd device and same issues so I gave up and decided to just live with it. At this price point this is a bit disappointing. Had the same issues with Samsung AMOLEDs as well but was able to return them and get near flawless displays so I know that they can manufacture them to better tolerances. I'm using a screen equalizer app from the play store to overlay a transparent green area on the pink side of the display to hide it from myself which works pretty good but sucks that this is the case.

guysalami said:
RMA'd twice due to AMOLED issues (streaks/tints), on my 3rd device and same issues so I gave up and decided to just live with it. At this price point this is a bit disappointing. Had the same issues with Samsung AMOLEDs as well but was able to return them and get near flawless displays so I know that they can manufacture them to better tolerances. I'm using a screen equalizer app from the play store to overlay a transparent green area on the pink side of the display to hide it from myself which works pretty good but sucks that this is the case.
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My two Pixels didn't have any tints whatsoever. The streaks only. Current one is much better so I'm sticking with it. Never seen a perfect OLED screen. It's a perk I guess. LG P-OLED are the worst. Dirty blotches! Yuck!
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