Do you think that's going to be an issue with the status bar and apps like twilight?
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Do you think that's going to be an issue with the status bar and apps like twilight?
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I really don't think so-material design is a good thing for amoled displays since the notification bar isn't just black anymore...I have had my Nexus 6 for almost a year now and I don't have a burn in of the notification bar-there is some retention of the signal and battery icons but it goes away after a few minutes.
Now the navigation bar is a different story-I got mine disabled and I don't have any burn in or image retention there and I will be doing the same once I get my Nexus 6P.
My Galaxy S3 doesnt have notification bar burn in after 3 year. So i think it depend how you use your device
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My Galaxy S3 doesnt have notification bar burn in after 3 year. So i think it depend how you use your device
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more so with the panels they use imo. Most Nexus 6 phones had burn in very quickly. Mine included
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Personally i wouldn't be too concerned. I've had a Galaxy S2, S3, S4, S6, and Note 4. None of them ever had a screen burn in.
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more so with the panels they use imo. Most Nexus 6 phones had burn in very quickly. Mine included
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You can't make the claim "most." Mine never had any burn-in whatsoever.
Don't use sweeping generalizations like that because you've visited a location (forum post) where the main topic was complaining about the burn-in. That does not mean "most" had burn-in problems.
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You can't make the claim "most." Mine never had any burn-in whatsoever.
Don't use sweeping generalizations like that because you've visited a location (forum post) where the main topic was complaining about the burn-in. That does not mean "most" had burn-in problems.
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umm, ok.
I've used AMOLED since the Galaxy S and never seen burn-in yet. Had 7 AMOLED phones (currently on Nexus 6) and 2 tablets (7.7 and Tab S) and have yet to experience even a hint of this burn-in phenomenon. The only time I've personally witnessed burnt OLED is on a Samsung Captivate demo unit.
I don't see it being an issue. I have used many panels with amoled including this Nexus 6 since release.
burn-in is based on usage. i have a '13 X and the nav bar def has some image retention. i also see the fade of the notification bar. it has to be in the right background to see them, but they are there.
don't leave your screen on all day and on the same app and you shouldn't have issues.
I noticed it very quickly on my nexus 6. I believe IPS screens get image retention, which is temporary and can go away. AMOLEDS actually get burned in and it is permanent. Google's insistence in using onscreen nav buttons are why I don't liek them.
I was very excited for the Nexus 6, despite it's AMOLED screen. It was love at first sight when it finally arrived and heartbreak a week later after returning it due to burn in with moderate use.
I was quite unhappy to hear Google was going AMOLED again. This would have been an immediate buy for me but now I just don't think I can do it.
Despite it's beauty I just think AMOLED is a flawed technology. For the price we pay for most of these phones a screen that can degrade or burn in just a few weeks to a year is unacceptable to me.
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I was very excited for the Nexus 6, despite it's AMOLED screen. It was love at first sight when it finally arrived and heartbreak a week later after returning it due to burn in with moderate use.
I was quite unhappy to hear Google was going AMOLED again. This would have been an immediate buy for me but now I just don't think I can do it.
Despite it's beauty I just think AMOLED is a flawed technology. For the price we pay for most of these phones a screen that can degrade or burn in just a few weeks to a year is unacceptable to me.
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I have rooted my Nexus 6 and disabled the navigation bar-using lmt and still do-no burn in here...Will be doing the same with the 6P...maybe you can consider the same?
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I've not seen any burn in at all on my Nexus 6 and with every new panel generation the problem diminishes. I've got some on my old galaxy nexus that is now used by my Grandmother but that's acceptable imo considering it's age.
Android Police just did a review and said they noticed slight screen burn-in after only a week?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/10/26/nexus-6p-review/
My Nexus 6 has no burn in after a year.
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I've not seen any burn in at all on my Nexus 6 and with every new panel generation the problem diminishes. I've got some on my old galaxy nexus that is now used by my Grandmother but that's acceptable imo considering it's age.
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'It's'?! She's your Grandmother, show some respect!
it's going to depend greatly on your specific panel. My N6 has no burn in at all and i've had it since launch. I even tested it on the app used in the AP review and don't see any burn at all. Typically, people come to forums to complain about an issue. Not too many people go running to the forums to tell everyone that their screen is fine. I look at it like this: Google has a pretty damn good policy on defective devices. If my screen has issues, i feel confident that Google will send me another free of charge.
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Android Police just did a review and said they noticed slight screen burn-in after only a week?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/10/26/nexus-6p-review/
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i need to know if they're confusing burn-in with image retention.
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i need to know if they're confusing burn-in with image retention.
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I have my Galaxy Note for 10 weeks and after using it always with 100% brightness there are aging effects.
Specially at blue backgrounds, but also at white and gray I can see the home screen icons, the clock and some buttons from jelly defense (I played jelly defense 3 weeks daily 2 hours) shining darker. (you can see it on the photo)
Now my Galaxy Note is in service for screen changing.
But what can I do in the future to avoid this aging effects? 80% brightness, 90% brightness?
Samsung didn't know this problems (I'll not believe it).
Has anyone practical experience with this problem?
Typically Blue pixels age the fastest. So pick a warm/red background. Avoid 100% brightness. Use auto if possible. Avoid leave screen on for prolonged period. Avoid static text or icon on the screen for too long. Basically the same care you would do to a Plasma TV except even the plasma TV screen(around 80,000 to 100,000 hrs) lasts 10 times longer than the AMOLED screen (estimated around 10,000 to 20,000 hrs).
Looks like you've discovered amoleds dirty little secret. I avoid pixel burnout by using launchers that auto hide the notification bar as well as browsers that allow you to hide the navigation bar such as opera. Opera let's you browse in fill screen mode.
I often refrain from using apps that show static images for long periods of time. I try to use the browser for everything that can be done through the regular Web portal of a site.
There is no way of getting around static images in apps unless the Dev accounts for it. Some devs are aware of amoled burn out and have options to hide navigation bars.
Ultimately you have to be mindful of static images and make sure to either avoid them on your screen for prolonged periods of time or remember to rotate your screen.
This is why I'm not looking forward to virtual buttons on ICS. It will destroy amoled screens for sure. Hopefully Samsung will retain physical button(s)
10 weeks is a pretty short life time, My friend's Nexus One (1yr++) does not have the very slightest hint of screen aging why my the galaxy S2 that I used for just 2 months already had the AM/PM burned in.
Its normal for OLED screens to age but it should not be this fast, this is probably why apple is not looking into OLED screens as the quality and or lifespan could be problematic.
There are some manufacturing defects. Some screens are just fade faster than others. But in general, if you know how to take good care of your screen, it will last a long time. My old Galaxy S lasted over a year without any noticeable burn-in. My new Galaxy S2 has been 4 months w/o any problem.
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There are some manufacturing defects. Some screens are just fade faster than others. But in general, if you know how to take good care of your screen, it will last a long time. My old Galaxy S lasted over a year without any noticeable burn-in. My new Galaxy S2 has been 4 months w/o any problem.
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like the part where you say "noticeable"
no matter how much you try to take care of it. It will happen. Its already there. (Depends to which degree)
My advice apart those ones about hiding the element that are always present.
Do not look for a screen burn in. Or do not look at the ****ty quality of the AMOLED. When you would look on for example on grey/ brown background easiest to spot when going to the marker you would notice the differences between the different parts of the screen. Its not perfectly even from the time its build. The color is displayed in different shades usually presenting itself in "lines".
Had my Note for 1 hour and I noticed it. Brand new.
But then again I know what to look for (proud owner of Galaxy S) and where to look for it.
I bought this device for the resolution and power. Not for the screen build quality
When I say 'noticeable', I meant to use screen test patterns. Last time I did that with my Galaxy S, I don't see any burn in with the test patterns at all. But I agree one should not purposfully sort after the burn in. It will always be there. But I also don't need live in panic. The great contrast of the screen (or infinite black) outweights any shortcomings it has. Side by side with an iPhone 4/4s, I simply can't stand the foggy looking screen of the LCD on iPhones. Every iPhone owners I encounter liked my SAMOLE screen better.
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But then again I know what to look for (proud owner of Galaxy S) and where to look for it.
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Hello fellow Galaxy S owner, This is the phone that brought up my standards and expectation for a SAMOLED device. I never saw any lines/uneven screen brightness and other garbage on my Galaxy S, even on greys. So this has brought up my expectation for a very high level which was crushed by the Galaxy Note's screen.
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I bought this device for the resolution and power. Not for the screen build quality
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Good for you, I bought the device as a while package with the top concern about screen build quality and as an HD playback device which it does not meet the purpose
Just a quick tip I picked up from someone else on this site (I forget now who it was, sorry). Change your clock from 12 to 24 hour every now and then (and visa versa), it shifts all the icons along a little
This is both an interesting and depressing post to find. I was so excited to order my International Note soon, but now I'm super paranoid about screen aging. I've read so much conflicting information about it online, I don't even know what to believe anymore.
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This is both an interesting and depressing post to find. I was so excited to order my International Note soon, but now I'm super paranoid about screen aging. I've read so much conflicting information about it online, I don't even know what to believe anymore.
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In terms of lifespan, LCDs still trump amoleds. That's a fact you'll have to live with.
No screen technology is perfect. SAMOLED for the moment has the problem that pixels decrease in brightness with ussage. So try to minimize the amount of light you get off the screen. That will also give you more battery life.
Try to use black backgrounds, and white text on black background if the application allows it. Of course if you spend 3 hours a day on a game with static icons and menus, that will wear some pixels more than others and you'll end up with something like the OP.
If you go looking for small variations of color, you're going to find them. But the superior brightness and contrast of a SAMOLED screen wins me over. Even when I know its effemeral and will degrade with time. But anyway, who keeps a phone more than 2 years?
Yeah, but I just found this information for the first time today, which is why I'm so depressed. I'm a digital artist so having a nice little on-the-go sketchpad has me super excited, but also worried because of the screen. Expansys tells me there's a 2 year warranty, but I don't know how that would work on an international phone if the screen goes bad...
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vcespon : Yeah, I normally keep the brightness on my Atrix down quite low anyways. The max brightness setting is *blindingly* bright. As for the 'who keeps a phone more then 2 years", I had my iphone 3gs for quite awhile thank you very much. That and if I spend 600-700 bucks on this baby I want it to last! If I get at the very least a year to a year and a half out of the screen I'll be somewhat happy, though closer to 2 would be better obviously. I wonder what the long-term outlook is for the life of these screens anyways. Does anyone know the mean-time-before-failure for them?
I would also try using black backgrounds or dark themes on as many apps as possible also. Like tapatalk or k9 for instance.
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I wonder what the long-term outlook is for the life of these screens anyways. Does anyone know the mean-time-before-failure for them?
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I think there are some references how long the pixels "live". You should google. Even though Samsung said that they used new materials to build the displays.
I can tell you one thing you get used to the inferior screen in time.(Few rants not and then) So I wouldn't worry about that. If it really fails you. Meaning someone else will notice something wrong on the screen no just you. Claim warranty
Also to pointing out. There is shor-term memory effect as well. I think I already posted some bad quality pics here about that from my SGS. > http://goo.gl/URYzm I do not remember if this is a burn it or just the memory effect. I think its the memory bla bla. Second pic is best.
Thanks for the information! I think I remembered someone saying that the short-term memory effect gets better over time as well. I'm mostly worried about the screen quality as I plan on doing a lot of sketching on it, which kind of sucks because it'll most likely be using a light-colored background then. :\ I wonder if the AT&T version will have the exact same screens or if they'll be a slightly updated version. I guess not considering AMOLED is still AMOLED.
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I think there are some references how long the pixels "live". You should google. Even though Samsung said that they used new materials to build the displays.
I can tell you one thing you get used to the inferior screen in time.(Few rants not and then) So I wouldn't worry about that. If it really fails you. Meaning someone else will notice something wrong on the screen no just you. Claim warranty
Also to pointing out. There is shor-term memory effect as well. I think I already posted some bad quality pics here about that from my SGS. > http://goo.gl/URYzm I do not remember if this is a burn it or just the memory effect. I think its the memory bla bla. Second pic is best.
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Thanks for the information! I think I remembered someone saying that the short-term memory effect gets better over time as well. I'm mostly worried about the screen quality as I plan on doing a lot of sketching on it, which kind of sucks because it'll most likely be using a light-colored background then. :\ I wonder if the AT&T version will have the exact same screens or if they'll be a slightly updated version. I guess not considering AMOLED is still AMOLED.
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You worry too much. And you do not even have that phone yet.
First of all not sure how its in your country, but here you can return in if you dont like it in a week I think.
Also if it becomes really apparent you really can go to a service center. I do not remember someone saying that samsung refused to change the screen.
Also I was ranting here already a year ago about the Galaxy S. I hate SAMOLED soo much since I got the SGS (18 months ago). I own an iPhone 4 and love retina and SLCD. And yet bought the Galaxy Note as well (despite the fact I knew how faulty it will be and how I will hate it )
Hey, I'm paranoid! I *really* get upset when I get a device that either isn't stable or has something wrong or defective about it. (Especially something that costs this much!) I'm in the US and am debating ordering through Expansys (USA), and I've heard they have I believe it was a 2 year warranty, but I have a feeling I'd have to send it to Expansys and have them take care of it if something went wrong. I can't see Samsung handling an international phone's repair in the US?
Aren't we strange with how we buy our gadgets? We know we will hate something and yet still buy it.
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Hey, I'm paranoid! I *really* get upset when I get a device that either isn't stable or has something wrong or defective about it. (Especially something that costs this much!) I'm in the US and am debating ordering through Expansys (USA), and I've heard they have I believe it was a 2 year warranty, but I have a feeling I'd have to send it to Expansys and have them take care of it if something went wrong. I can't see Samsung handling an international phone's repair in the US?
Aren't we strange with how we buy our gadgets? We know we will hate something and yet still buy it.
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All oled displays suffer from amoled burn out. Not much you can do.
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Try to use black backgrounds, and white text on black background if the application allows it.
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Here you can see my homescreen. There is already white text on black background.
But I can see the shadows of the big clock and all icons. The shadows are the white parts of the homescreen; for example the "S" of my S-Banking-App is very visible as a black shadow in all other apps with lighter background (Internet-Browser, ebook-Reader etc..).
And the homescreen is visible only for a few minutes, because when I want to use an app I directly start the app. I don't look so much time to the homescreen and my Galaxy Note goes after one minute in standby mode.
That means only 10 minutes/day homescreen with 100% brightness is enough to damage the screen visible after 10 weeks?
Okay, playing Jelly Defense 2 hours a day at 100% brightness is not so good, but the problem is not the time, because a few minutes looking to the homescreen has nearly the same aging effect.
So I have been reading around a lot about amoled burn-in now in the past in had crazy problems with amoled screen i.e pink hue. Now I'm in absolute love with my new gs4 and want it to last a long time but I'm afraid I might get that dreadful burn-in. Anyone else worried??
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So I have been reading around a lot about amoled burn-in now in the past in had crazy problems with amoled screen i.e pink hue. Now I'm in absolute love with my new gs4 and want it to last a long time but I'm afraid I might get that dreadful burn-in. Anyone else worried??
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Not at all. I purchased the S1 on launch. It went to my wife and now my daughter has it. Still going with no problems. I bought the S2 at launch. Passed it down to my other daughter. Still going with no problems. I still have my work S3 which has no problems. And I preordered the S4 and love it. So you could call me a fanboy of Samsung but you would be wrong. I have owned all types and manufacturers. Including iPhone LOL. For me personally, Samsung has been the best phone around and I have not had any issues with them.
Ummmm I mean yes I am scared to death and I think you should dump the S4 right away. I would sacrifice and take it off your hands for $100
Lol:what: only a 100. Nah I love this phone just wanted to get others opinions
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Lol:what: only a 100. Nah I love this phone just wanted to get others opinions
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Yes, your s4 amoled screen will have burn in. I will buy it from you for $120.
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Just like crawrj, I've had the s1, s2, and Gnex. All had amoled screens, all were just great when it came to the screen. Never had any burn in issues here as well.
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I have burn in on my GNexus and my epic touch. It's not too visible but I notice it every now an then. On the epic touch it is on the notification bar area when I go into gallery to view a full size image on white images I can notice the top area is darkend. I think this is due to how I use my device. I have the screen on for a good 6-7 hours a day at work listening to YouTube.
I had burn in with my s2 with the amoled+ screen. Something else failed on the phone and the refurb didn't have burn in already. I had burn in of the notification area and keyboard letters.
I have my s2 and there is a very slight burn with a line for the bottom row of icons on the home screen. But you can only see it on a very cold day and when the screen is 100% white. On a regular temperature day it is not noticeable at all.
I've had several of Samsung's phones all with amoled screens and I've never had any problems with them. I haven't even heard of that happening, which doesn't mean it's impossible, but it's probably fairly unlikely that you will have that issue on the S4.
I had the OG Epic, E4GT, S2, S3, and got the S4 on the launch date early morning (first phone I ever got at launch haha) and I have never had any problems!
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My gnex had burn in issues but you could only really tell when the brightness was less than 50%.
This week I'm sending my Nexus S out to pasture. I am the 2nd over and I bought it with the burn-in. It's hard to tell from the picture but it looks like ginger bread and beautiful widgets are to blame. That's what brought me here. Can I expect more of the same? I realize my device is very old in Android years and hopefully the screens are better.
It probably will eventually get burn in. Long screen on times while using the phone without the screen changing much is culprit. A repair center I was at said they would get you a replacement if you had tep.
I have to think this can/will happen depending on the usage. If you have your screen to never time out and it is left on for most the day on 100% brightness or maybe if you are using the device as your alarm clock every night and the screen is kept bright. Have never done any of these things but would like to hear from someone that has used a similar device every night as an alarm clock.
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I have to think this can/will happen depending on the usage. If you have your screen to never time out and it is left on for most the day on 100% brightness or maybe if you are using the device as your alarm clock every night and the screen is kept bright. Have never done any of these things but would like to hear from someone that has used a similar device every night as an alarm clock.
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Yup I think it depends on your usage model.& many will never see burn-in on the screen. But a major use of my phone is for navigation in the car. The screen is on for maybe hours at a time and, in summer, gets hot and on full brightness. Google Navigation has display elements on the screen that are essentially static. So I decided AMOLED was a bit of a poor choice, and went for a LCD phone. YMMV.
Shame, I would have maybe considered an S4 if it had an LCD.
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Yup I think it depends on your usage model.& many will never see burn-in on the screen. But a major use of my phone is for navigation in the car. The screen is on for maybe hours at a time and, in summer, gets hot and on full brightness. Google Navigation has display elements on the screen that are essentially static. So I decided AMOLED was a bit of a poor choice, and went for a LCD phone. YMMV.
Shame, I would have maybe considered an S4 if it had an LCD.
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S4 active will have lcd
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Look at all you guys low balling him
You guys should be ashamed
That said I'll offer you $120.01
Also still no burns on s1, s2, s3, and two nexus s
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S4 active will have lcd
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Lower resolution, sadly.
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Lower resolution, sadly.
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Thats lame lol
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To all those saying "impossible", "using it for year and year with no burn-in" etc, here, my 2 cents. The attached pictures is a burn-in on my SGS3, i took a pic with the screen displaying an all gray test pattern, on low brightness. I did post-process the pic to make it more visible, so in reality it doesn't look that bad, but it is definitely there and is definitely bad enough to notice on most relatively evenly-colored, yet bright enough, apps. I've noticed it first while browsing the Google Play market
BTW, the burn-in source is very obvious, it's the Waze navigation app elements, the one in the middle is ETA. Not too surprising, considering the fact the screen runs at max brightness and is really hot during navigation, true most of the year here.
PS: The device is a bit under 1 year old
I was wondering if anyone with knowledge on current amoled displays could speak to potential screen burn in issues. The last amoled screen I had on a phone was the S4, and found burn in and color shift to be a bit of an issue. I know Samsung in particular has made some pretty remarkable strides since then in terms of the technology, but with this not being a high end Samsung panel, where does amoled currently sit in regards to burn in and color shift?
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I was wondering if anyone with knowledge on current amoled displays could speak to potential screen burn in issues. The last amoled screen I had on a phone was the S4, and found burn in and color shift to be a bit of an issue. I know Samsung in particular has made some pretty remarkable strides since then in terms of the technology, but with this not being a high end Samsung panel, where does amoled currently sit in regards to burn in and color shift?
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I owned a tab s 8.4 and used the crap out of it. It never developed any burn in. i think newer tech has reduced that significantly.
My Nexus 6 is fine after almost a year , personally i think most people saw image retention and went crazy
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I owned a tab s 8.4 and used the crap out of it. It never developed any burn in. i think newer tech has reduced that significantly.
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Okay cool, that's really good to know. I babied the hell out of my S4, so I was super bummed when it developed the burn in. I know more recent iterations of Android have designed elements with that in mind, so hopefully that coupled with newer technology will mean it won't be a problem.
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I was wondering if anyone with knowledge on current amoled displays could speak to potential screen burn in issues. The last amoled screen I had on a phone was the S4, and found burn in and color shift to be a bit of an issue. I know Samsung in particular has made some pretty remarkable strides since then in terms of the technology, but with this not being a high end Samsung panel, where does amoled currently sit in regards to burn in and color shift?
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I own the Nexus 6 and after about a month of use I saw image retention where the nav bar is-so I disabled the navigation bar via build prop and started using LMT-no retention or burn in since then....I would most likely do the same with the Nexus 6P....not worth the gamble.
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I had a look at an in store demo note 4 today - severe burn in! Now I know it's an artificial situation - brightness on full and same rotating images but it's still a worry. I wonder if Google would do a 6o warranty replacement for burn-in?
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I had a look at an in store demo note 4 today - severe burn in! Now I know it's an artificial situation - brightness on full and same rotating images but it's still a worry. I wonder if Google would do a 6o warranty replacement for burn-in?
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Historically, yes. Even more certain if you get Nexus Protect.
Don't know if you've heard, but just in case you haven't, 6P will have the latest Samsung panels, which I would expect to be similar to the one they put in the Note 5. Hopefully the burn in will less likely. I have a Note 4 and haven't noticed any burn in.
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Yep, confirmed: Nexus 6P has the latest generation panels from Samsung. One of things we deeply care for is the quality and accuracy of the display through which all of us connect with the stuff we care about. We created a very tight spec (white-point temperature, delta-E variance, color-space accuracy, etc) for the 6P WQHD AMOLED panel, so it was important that we use the most cutting edge panel technology available.
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comme...hi_lockheimer_here_at_google_with_the/cvjpf2e
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Don't know if you've heard, but just in case you haven't, 6P will have the latest Samsung panels, which I would expect to be similar to the one they put in the Note 5. Hopefully the burn in will less likely. I have a Note 4 and haven't noticed any burn in.
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Yep, confirmed: Nexus 6P has the latest generation panels from Samsung. One of things we deeply care for is the quality and accuracy of the display through which all of us connect with the stuff we care about. We created a very tight spec (white-point temperature, delta-E variance, color-space accuracy, etc) for the 6P WQHD AMOLED panel, so it was important that we use the most cutting edge panel technology available.
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comme...hi_lockheimer_here_at_google_with_the/cvjpf2e
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I saw that, super exciting!
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I'm in Ireland so no Nexus Protect just sky high prices - €700 for a 6p
Newest tech doesn't mean "this is the same screen Samsung uses on their S6 line."
Could simply mean that "besides our Super Amoled series of screens we use on the S6 line, the nexus 6p uses the newest tech".
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Yea I agree with the above that it's Most likely not the same as the Note5 screen, as Samsung only uses Super Amoled which is higher quality in their own gadgets, while selling just the Amoled to the Other companies.
Having said that, I personally think the whole Burn out fiasco is really hyped alot more than it should be. Personally I Love super Amoled screen, and once you use it, I think it's an extreme eye sore to go to IPS which unfortunately happened when I went from the GS1 to the Moto Atrix, then back to the GS2 then with the nexus 4 and 5 have hated the IPS panels.
BUT, I kept my GS2 for 2 years, and just at the end of it I started to notice the burn in Only in the status bar, nowhere else. As not only the tech has come a long way since then, but also as others mentioned, there are numerous ways to combat/prevent said burn in so its really not something people should keep complaining about as if every person who uses a Amoled screen gets burn out within a few months.
I would take that risk tho any day to get to use the brilliant colors of Amoled, esp the truly Black Blacks...
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I've had the S4 for going on three years and have experienced no burn in. I did recently read this nice little article...
https://www.androidpit.com/how-to-fix-amoled-burn-in-on-android-displays
Only thing that bothers me is the solid black control bar in apps and on most screens,why didn't Google make it transparent like on the home screen or Google now on tap
combat goofwing said:
Only thing that bothers me is the solid black control bar in apps and on most screens,why didn't Google make it transparent like on the home screen or Google now on tap
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What I would really like is an immersive mode quick toggle for the stock rom.
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TroopStormer said:
What I would really like is an immersive mode quick toggle for the stock rom.
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What is this ? Please explain sounds good
combat goofwing said:
What is this ? Please explain sounds good
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It's a feature available on a lot of custom roms. Basically it's full screen mode where the status and navigation bars are hidden. Then you can just swipe up from the bottom of top to make them pop up.
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TroopStormer said:
It's a feature available on a lot of custom roms. Basically it's full screen mode where the status and navigation bars are hidden. Then you can just swipe up from the bottom of top to make them pop up.
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LMT launcher worked amazing on the nexus 6 . i removed the bar in build.prop and installed LMT launcher . i have my nexus 6P now (rooted) but have not had a change to try this yet .
swipe navigation works great too. I prefer it to LMT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/themes-apps/app-swipe-navigation-t2987803
Wouldn't the always on screen burn the pixels on the screen? What you guys think?
It's not fixed to one location, it moves around in timed intervals to prevent burn in.
I understand, but the navbar ( in other phones with amoled) is not on all the time and it gets burned on the screen too. I dont know I guess if there is and option I will turn it off
samomamo said:
I understand, but the navbar ( in other phones with amoled) is not on all the time and it gets burned on the screen too. I dont know I guess if there is and option I will turn it off
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There is that option.
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There is that option.
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Perfect
I haven't experienced any screen burns with my s5 and up. My phone's are always brightness all the way up.
samomamo said:
I understand, but the navbar ( in other phones with amoled) is not on all the time and it gets burned on the screen too. I dont know I guess if there is and option I will turn it off
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Yup, nav bar is high contrast and fixed position on the screen. Hence the reason Samsung continues to use capacitive buttons. I don't think the always-on feature will cause burn in, since it jumps around.
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Yup, nav bar is high contrast and fixed position on the screen. Hence the reason Samsung continues to use capacitive buttons. I don't think the always-on feature will cause burn in, since it jumps around.
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I think some people are overly paranoid about burn in (not that there's anything wrong with that). I have had the S3, S4, S5 and the Tab S and never had any issues with burn in.
Good, maybe u didnt notice, i had s6 note 5, note 4 all of them had burnin
They have always on displays in stores look at the phones all of them have burnins even the s6 note 5's
Super Amoleds get but ins thats the type of technically they are , they are beautiful the best displays, but the pixel's degrade.
This is why I just can't commit to phones with AMOLED screens. These are too expensive to have issues such as burn in a different whatnot. I know the technology is improving but burn in still exists.
Never had burn in with any of my phones with amoled. Non issue for me.
recklesslife85 said:
Never had burn in with any of my phones with amoled. Non issue for me.
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Have you used the phone alot?
samomamo said:
Have you used the phone alot?
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Yeah use my phones like a tablet, constantly on it. Never had the issue before.
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Yeah use my phones like a tablet, constantly on it. Never had the issue before.
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Good for you that u never had a burn in, I had.
My Galaxy 2 got burn in within a few months. My Nexus 6 got it in about three days.
It's depressing to see more and more phones moving to AMOLED.
No, because the screen content moves periodically preventing it happening.
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My Galaxy 2 got burn in within a few months. My Nexus 6 got it in about three days.
It's depressing to see more and more phones moving to AMOLED.
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No it's not, AMOLEDs are awesome. As long as you don't use your phone 24/7 at full brightness and display static images on it all the time, burn-in won't be an issue. It's not something that happens willy nilly.
Not this argument again.
I'm getting major throwback to my earlier AMOLED screen phones.
Just noticed my Pixel has those infamous streaks. Those used to be earlier generation AMOLED like the Galaxy Nexus. Especially visible on grey backgrounds?!
I thought manufacturers fixed these issues.
Anyone else see these?
Test to see on your Pixel use the Tapatalk app in dark mode and you will see it on the background grey.
Once you see you can't "unsee"
I just want to smoke sure I'm not a isolated case before deciding what to do about it.
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I don't see any streaks on my device.....
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None at all here as well, and i develop on it so the screen is on about 9-12 hours a day at least.
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I'm getting major throwback to my earlier AMOLED screen phones.
Just noticed my Pixel has those infamous streaks. Those used to be earlier generation AMOLED like the Galaxy Nexus. Especially visible on grey backgrounds?!
I thought manufacturers fixed these issues.
Anyone else see these?
Test to see on your Pixel use the Tapatalk app in dark mode and you will see it on the background grey.
Once you see you can't "unsee"
I just want to smoke sure I'm not a isolated case before deciding what to do about it.
Thanks.
KKH
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Do you mean visible streaks when a black background moves across a dark blue or grey background? Almost like a trail?
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Do you mean visible streaks when a black background moves across a dark blue or grey background? Almost like a trail?
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The streaks or thin black lines and are stationary in the background.. mostly seen in shades of grey.
It used to be common with older generation AMOLED screens. Manufacturing defect was the common reason.
I'm not sure what to do now as other than this issue my device is perfect. RMA will be a hassle.
Will Google send me out a device before I send the current one back?
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The streaks or thin black lines and are stationary in the background.. mostly seen in shades of grey.
It used to be common with older generation AMOLED screens. Manufacturing defect was the common reason.
I'm not sure what to do now as other than this issue my device is perfect. RMA will be a hassle.
Will Google send me out a device before I send the current one back?
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Gotcha, I thought you were referring to the trail of darkness that is visible when a black background moves over a grey or blue one. This would be normal AMOLED behavior.
However stationary lines... I've never seen that before, definitely not on my Pixel. I would hope Google would send out a device first so you aren't out a phone. But expect a holding charge on the card used to purchase the device.
Mine has the lines. Really have to look to see them. Doesn't bother me the way it would years ago.
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Mine has the lines. Really have to look to see them. Doesn't bother me the way it would years ago.
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I agree it doesn't bother me as much as it would in the past but I have gone for RMA. If it's the same and not worse on the replacement then I'll just live with it.
There was an interesting video by Erica Griffin where she touches on this issue. Interesting watch.
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I only see it on XDA!
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I had it on my first Pixel, it was very obvious actually. Could even see it watching normal videos. I since swapped for the Pixel XL, and I still have at least one darker mark, visible when I pull down the notification panel. It is however very hard to see, I have to be looking for it so it doesn't bother me. But seems kinda weird.. my Nexus 6 never had any of those issues. (And I had 3, thank goodness for accidental coverage lol cracked the screen twice)
My replacement is much better but there are still some streaks. However I need to look for them. They are not that obvious. I'll stick with the handset for the time being. Guess this is a side effect of AMOLED tech.
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RMA'd twice due to AMOLED issues (streaks/tints), on my 3rd device and same issues so I gave up and decided to just live with it. At this price point this is a bit disappointing. Had the same issues with Samsung AMOLEDs as well but was able to return them and get near flawless displays so I know that they can manufacture them to better tolerances. I'm using a screen equalizer app from the play store to overlay a transparent green area on the pink side of the display to hide it from myself which works pretty good but sucks that this is the case.
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RMA'd twice due to AMOLED issues (streaks/tints), on my 3rd device and same issues so I gave up and decided to just live with it. At this price point this is a bit disappointing. Had the same issues with Samsung AMOLEDs as well but was able to return them and get near flawless displays so I know that they can manufacture them to better tolerances. I'm using a screen equalizer app from the play store to overlay a transparent green area on the pink side of the display to hide it from myself which works pretty good but sucks that this is the case.
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My two Pixels didn't have any tints whatsoever. The streaks only. Current one is much better so I'm sticking with it. Never seen a perfect OLED screen. It's a perk I guess. LG P-OLED are the worst. Dirty blotches! Yuck!
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