Hi
I am a little worried about burn in issue. So i would like to hide status bar to minimize it. I have heard some galaxy s2 users have this issue.
I tried several launchers and they only hide status bar on launcher screens. When I use application it does not hide it.
I am wondering if there is any way I can hide status bar all the time.
Thanks
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Burn in? Wow, it's been a few years since I have heard that term! I see no reason why the Galaxy Note, or the S2 for that matter should ever have a burn in issue...the technology just does not allow that to happen...
On another not, the Note and the S2 have different screens. The S2 uses a Super AMOLED Plus RGB, while the Note used a Super AMOLED Pentile.
All AMOLED have potential burn in issue. See wiki page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_LED
Unfortunately it is more likely to happen compared to LCD or IPS as AMOLED as it burns itself.
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Unless you're using your Note as a primary display for your desktop and leaving it on 20 hours a day, I don't think there's much of a chance of burning in...
Unless you're gonna contantly use your Note for 5+ years, don't worry about it.
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Spartan2x said:
Burn in? Wow, it's been a few years since I have heard that term! I see no reason why the Galaxy Note, or the S2 for that matter should ever have a burn in issue...the technology just does not allow that to happen...
On another not, the Note and the S2 have different screens. The S2 uses a Super AMOLED Plus RGB, while the Note used a Super AMOLED Pentile.
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This wins silliest post of the week.
AmoLED's are notorious for burning wearing out especially blues and greens. Look at any galaxy S gt-i9000 that have been used for more than 4-6 months and you can clearly see the wearing out of the led's where the notification bar is static.
Static images on an amoled screen eventually wear out the pixels fading them out. This is a known fact and I'm reminded of it every time I look at my galaxy s.
regarding the OP's question. LauncherPro among other 3rd party launchers only allow hiding of the notification bar on the home screen. There are several google help forum posts asking google to implement a setting that would allow you to hide the notification bar in apps. The official request was denied by google citing that the notification bar is an integral part of the android os and therefore should be constant throughout apps. Now there are apps that require full screen pixel width like angry birds and such but that is only if the developer codes the app to NOT show the notification bar.
Bottom line its up to developer to include a hide notification bar setting as google will not cook it into the OS as an option.
Hope this helps.
Here is the official google response from an android dev http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9063
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Thank you inurb. Now I understand why I cannot hide status bar.
Thank you again.
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ADW Launcher has a feature that hides the notification bar when you swipe UP on the screen. Apart from that, if we can change the fonts on a regular basis, we might avoid this issue.
Is the process of burn-in similar to that on Plasma TV screens?? Then the solutions (or things to avoid) would be the same as well for SuperAMOLEDs. There wouldn't be any apps available that could facilitate pixel shifting, would there??
I come from the land of LCD, so I'm terrified of any possibility of burn-in on the new shiny monster!
BTW, Go Launcher EX also has the option of hiding the notification bar (and the dock menus as well!)
I've had the PM from the clock on the status bar burned into my Samsung Captivate's screen....as well as the digits from the clock but they're less defined.
If you are like me, you use the device 50% portrait and 50% landscape.
Wouldn't that pretty much eliminate the burn in concern?
I had the Wave/S1/S2 all of them had this "Burn-in" or rather burn out issue. The Galaxy S2 had the shortest time of only 2 months of use while the Samsung Wave took about 9 months and the S1 about 4. Only the "M" sumbol and the battery indicator burned in though.
Hi All,
came across this thread when looking for a solution for SGS1.
it seems that Burn in is indeed a problem for AMOLED screens.
in my situation, I've found a burn cause by Waze (of course, any app that would leave the screen on would cause it).
sadly enough, my phone is only 6 months old and I use Waze ~30 min. a day - not much for a burn you think? wrong!
for now, i've set Waze to hide the point bar and the zoom control, but still many objects on the screen are static - including the notification bar.
does anyone has a good solution?
I'm wondering if "burn-in" has to partially do with the environment the phone is being used in (the other being reason being a bad batch). For example, tropical (ie. "hot") environments may cause screen issues sooner because the screen can't cope with the heat?
I had my S2 for about 7 months before getting the Note and the screen was on around 40-50 minutes a day. Didn't notice any burn-in during the entire time. I always kept the phone's screen out of direct sunlight, and it was winter/autumn during the time I was using my S2.
I saw an S2 got a burn in within 2 months for the lock screen. =)
It's not just burn-in, I believe it's a combination of the burn-in and the specific colors in the LEDs dimming (i.e., losing their initial brightness).
It's best to change wallpapers every so often to make sure that the LED colors are wearing out evenly. If not, over time, you'll get weird tints in parts of the screen due to a dimming of certain colors, etc.
This burn in issue is very troubling to me and may force me to reevaluate my intention of getting the Note. I just Googled AMOLED and the Wikipedia article seems to imply the organic material degrades over time and I'm thinking this is the cause of the so called burn in issue.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMOLED
The other thing it mentions is the dramatic difference in power the display uses depending on the colors being displayed with black letter on a white background eating more than 4X the power of white letters on a black background.
This bothers me not just because I was planning to get the Note but I was also looking at the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7. If a phone has problems with burn in problems in as little as half a year how long before a tab with an AMOLED/SAMOLED display has the burn in issue.
On the upside, knowing that switching the colors can greatly reduce battery drain is good to know...
Brian
Yup, this is why I still prefer standard LCD currently, or Super LCD. Sure, the blacks aren't blacks, but at least the tech is tried and true. =)
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This burn in issue is very troubling to me and may force me to reevaluate my intention of getting the Note. I just Googled AMOLED and the Wikipedia article seems to imply the organic material degrades over time and I'm thinking this is the cause of the so called burn in issue.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMOLED
The other thing it mentions is the dramatic difference in power the display uses depending on the colors being displayed with black letter on a white background eating more than 4X the power of white letters on a black background.
This bothers me not just because I was planning to get the Note but I was also looking at the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7. If a phone has problems with burn in problems in as little as half a year how long before a tab with an AMOLED/SAMOLED display has the burn in issue.
On the upside, knowing that switching the colors can greatly reduce battery drain is good to know...
Brian
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Hardly a fix but I use Opera for web browsing so the status bar is hidden for me (and full screen browsing is lovely )
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This wins silliest post of the week.
AmoLED's are notorious for burning wearing out especially blues and greens. Look at any galaxy S gt-i9000 that have been used for more than 4-6 months and you can clearly see the wearing out of the led's where the notification bar is static.
Static images on an amoled screen eventually wear out the pixels fading them out. This is a known fact and I'm reminded of it every time I look at my galaxy s.
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It's something you "Tech guys" seam to leave out when you do your iPhone vs Android discussions, I have never read up about it anywhere. You would think such a glaring problem with be talked about more. I'll have to look into it more now that I am waiting on the White Note from hantec.(coming from the iPhone 4 that I have had for 18 months now with no issues other then the inferiority complex in screen size)
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Its been about a month since the launch of the SGS2. I know it may be a bit early but has anyone noticed any image retention or screen burn? I haven't as of yet and I but i do keep my brightness usually on the lowest all the time im at home. Outside its on Auto.
Also even if anyone hasn't how long will it take to happen since I know that all OLed displays including TV's eventually retain images?
I have a Galaxy S. For my phone, It took around 4 months to burn down some pixels after keeping the Screen on for about 3 hours a day. The Status bar was visible on blue background along with screen burn where AM and PM is displayed.
Best Practice is to keep changing the Orientation of the phone frequently and use a Theme with transparent status bar and switch to 24 hour clock to prevent burn in of AM or PM pixels, since they are ON all the time.
Yeah, im trying to do that as much as i can especially changing the orientation with the market and some apps.
So once your pixels gets burned in, can you change them back to normal by putting a different colour over the burned area or is it for good?
I think UK as all the Europe uses 24h clock. So no need to worry about am pm burn in.
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I have a Galaxy S. For my phone, It took around 4 months to burn down some pixels after keeping the Screen on for about 3 hours a day. The Status bar was visible on blue background along with screen burn where AM and PM is displayed.
Best Practice is to keep changing the Orientation of the phone frequently and use a Theme with transparent status bar and switch to 24 hour clock to prevent burn in of AM or PM pixels, since they are ON all the time.
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"4 MONTHS" any sign of any burn in on my screen and i`ll be looking for a replacement under the warrenty. If this is the case then i`m afraid the Amoled technology is a complete failure in my opinion...!!!
Basically LED displays comprise of 3 LEDs. Red, Blue and Green. When they lit up all together, the form white. Unlike the LCD technology, LED's are diodes which convert electricity into Light and hence they have a lifespan. They gradually start degrading which reduces the amount of light that they emit.
Blue has the highest tendency to degrade faster, hence the AMOLED screens have a Bluish tint to compensate for the same.
Suppose you use a 12 Hour clock and you have AM and PM displayed all the time, as a result of this, the blue pixels that are present at the AM, PM display location degrade, which causes a color imbalance. I.e the other pixels emit more light, but the "Burnt" pixels emit less light. At a later stage when the other 2 LEDs start getting burnt, you can see a patched up section, which represents the burnt pixels, which could be spotted on specific backgrounds.
There is no way to fix screen burn than to get a new display. There is a HUGE topic about screen burn in SGS section. It's worth a read.
I got my galaxy s in August last year and there is a large amount of burn in especially where the clock is.
You can check the individual colours in SGS tools or the xda app when you first open it.
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I have a Galaxy S. For my phone, It took around 4 months to burn down some pixels after keeping the Screen on for about 3 hours a day. The Status bar was visible on blue background along with screen burn where AM and PM is displayed.
Best Practice is to keep changing the Orientation of the phone frequently and use a Theme with transparent status bar and switch to 24 hour clock to prevent burn in of AM or PM pixels, since they are ON all the time.
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I haven't had any burn-ins whatsoever with my SGS. I had it since October and used it everyday. None. Just checked after reading this thread. None whatsoever.
Koreans are very critical of things they buy. They are one of if not THE country where consumer reports are spread fastest due to their connectivity with the web. Things like this is just NOT accepted over there. And there would be a country outrage especially regarding Samsung products. I highly doubt this is the case. Maybe you have a one off defect.
The Burn-in is caused by the short life of the blue pixel.
I suggest don't make blue pixel lit in the status bar.
I don't know if there has any launchers could make Time and Signal status area displayed in yellow or green rather than white.
My nexus one had status bar burn in within the first month. Still there, no way to reverse it.
But using launcher pro is best solution which hides the status bar completely.
Same here I have had an S1 since it was launched. I used it heavily every day, the screen was on a lot as i used it as an ebook reader. There is zero burn in (checked using screen test).
A friend has one as well, which he bought at the same time as me, he is very critical of every detail, and there is zero burn in on his either.
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I`m going to use my SG2 as I want, i`m not going to worry about screen burn in, if it happens which i doubt it,i`ll be demanding a replacement . No one should have to use any programs to hide status bars etc, just to try and prevent it. If it happens then in my opinion its a defect and should be replaced.
Did anybody try for a replacement with the First SG that suffered screen burn...
That's what two year warranties are for I guess. Like post above, I would love to hear of successful replacement for original sgs.
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I`m going to use my SG2 as I want, i`m not going to worry about screen burn in, if it happens which i doubt it,i`ll be demanding a replacement . No one should have to use any programs to hide status bars etc, just to try and prevent it. If it happens then in my opinion its a defect and should be replaced.
Did anybody try for a replacement with the First SG that suffered screen burn...
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Many people exchanged their nexus one, desire, galaxy s, for a new screen and the burn in just happened again after a month on the replacement. Not much can be done just live with it.
How serious of a burn are we talking about here? A slight shadow or a full on watermark type situation??
Just curious as mine is en route but if this is as bad as some are making out then it will be a deal breaker for me....
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I`m going to use my SG2 as I want, i`m not going to worry about screen burn in, if it happens which i doubt it,i`ll be demanding a replacement . No one should have to use any programs to hide status bars etc, just to try and prevent it. If it happens then in my opinion its a defect and should be replaced.
Did anybody try for a replacement with the First SG that suffered screen burn...
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+1
warranty ain't issued by Samsung for nothing. Loving this phone. Its blazing fast since day 1 and ain't getting slower. Over 150 apps now installed. Still as fast ==3
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Doesn't effect the user much. Barely visible on daily use.
I9000 since august, no burn in so far , used everyday..
I9100 since, well less than a month, ofc no burn in
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How serious of a burn are we talking about here? A slight shadow or a full on watermark type situation??
Just curious as mine is en route but if this is as bad as some are making out then it will be a deal breaker for me....
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Its very very light, barely noticeable unless you look hard for it on white web pages. This is prob why not everyone sees it cause they are looking for something much worse.
I have a slight temporary image retention on my phone, it only lasts a few seconds after using the keypad or the circular lock screen etc , but its pretty noticeable on a dark background
Sure, it fades after a few seconds, but I'm quite concerned that it'll cause lasting damage over time.
I'll try get some snaps, later.. my phone is er, 3 days old
Ive had this powerhouse of a phone for just under 16 Hours, Screen has only been used for around half an hour etc,
Ive just noticed some screenburn on the screen The four buttons - (Phone, Contacts, Messaging, Apps) are visible on the screen when I look at a grey-ish background (Such as the speedx initial bg). Ive been through 6 Galaxy S2s, Three of them had this issue - Is it me, or is this a bit weird? Phone screen on for only 30mins since it was factory shiny&new, and theres already light screenburn.
Is this a characteristic of SAMOLED Plus, or is this a faultly batch? (Im on my 5th replacement phone from Amazon due to various faults). It seems a bit weird, a phone thats cost near £475 inc has this kind of issue.
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Aman.
(Picture attached, You have to look quite carefully to see the greyish outlines of the boxes)
It doesn't look screen burn as it looks coloured. it might be the app you are running has transparency.
afaik, OLED does suffer from screen burn like plasmas do - potentially, but not that quick!
Well, it can happen. After a month i started seeing the same thing when pulling down the notification bar. So it's not app related, cause i don't use other launcher, i can clearly see the shadow of the 4 icons for a few seconds when pulling down the notification bar. They disappear pretty quickly, i'm not that bothered about that.
Also notice even if you just got the phone the very first second the digital clock actually burns through the notification tray and slowly disappears, I think its a technology limitation on the SAMOLED+
hi i dont know if my post will help or not
put i have a samilliar proplem with my sgs2 screen
i have proplems with colors like grey and dark blue
i will attack photos for u to see if u have the same proplem with colors like me
and my phone is only 14 day old
i really dont know if the colors are normal or not
p.s: make ur display 60/100 to see the colors
on my sgs1 the screen was way better
the first two pics are of the grey color ( to see if u have the same like this pic open msg and write a messege there is an option to write sound messege click on it
it will show the same thing see if u have the same like me
and the third pic is of the home screen to compare see if there is something wrong with ur screen
also could some one please look at his device and my pictures so i can now if there is something wrong with my device
thanks alot in advance
EarlZ said:
Also notice even if you just got the phone the very first second the digital clock actually burns through the notification tray and slowly disappears, I think its a technology limitation on the SAMOLED+
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Seems like a SAMOLED+ limitation as you say. I was just curious, it shouldnt bother me much whilst im using my phone normally.
ashish.vig said:
I just got my screen replaced, because of the screen burn issue, had a violet patch on top left, right where the viber icon sits, wihc caused the pinkish tint screen. Got my screen replaced in under 20 mins at samung service centre in Mumbai.
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If the screenburn gets really bad, I suppose i can always just use the 2yr Warranty I have on the phone to get the screen replaced. Waste of an invisibleshield though.
Considering the phone is less than a day old, the screen might go really weird in 2-3 months - Which is what im worried about.
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on my sgs1 the screen was way better
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I would have to agree that the S1 screen is was a better display even if did have a more jagged edges on the fonts.
I have a similar issue in the messaging app, but with the keyboard. If I 'enable'(/turn on/whatever) it then disable it, it's 'shadow' stays there for a couple of seconds. It is however not a permanent burn in, so I think it's just the screen's limitation and it doesn't really bother me as this screen is still by far the best I've ever used.
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Also notice even if you just got the phone the very first second the digital clock actually burns through the notification tray and slowly disappears, I think its a technology limitation on the SAMOLED+
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wouldn't that screw up video playback though? sounds more like a software bug
I turned the clock on the notification bar back to 24hr , as i read/saw the AM/PM can burn in as they are displayed a lot longer then the 24hr digits which move at least every hour.
I just discovered this issue last night. I had been noticing a few lines here and there on my regular usage and I thought it was just a defective screen. Through the use of Terminal's blue screen, I realized that it wasn't defective.
I have a car dock, and use PowerAMP in the car every day. As you can see above, those burn ins are the buttons in PowerAMP. I went to take a picture of my SGS2 with my N1, and while looking at the blue screen on my SGS2 through the display of the N1, I noticed the N1 had the issue too!
I'm trying to run JScreenFix now to see if it solves the problem, but I highly doubt it.
Will Samsung even honour the warranty for things like this?
I have an SGS1 of 1 year old and my SGS 2 bought in may. Side by side, I will never exchange my SGS2 for another SGS1. Screen quality (colours and details) is by far better on SGS2. No comparision
I also don't see any burn in in both devices (keybord test, status bar...). Maybe some defective devices around that you just should exchange
If you want to test your screen or anything on your phone type *#0*# into the keypad
If the burn don't show up on green blue or red then its something else
I also have the same issue. I can see shadow of the System task bar. It was quite vivid on RED and it shows as lighter blue on blue colour. And on white it became pale white. Bright yellow as well on yellow.
I've tried various things like put the screen on full brightness on Black and Red and blue but still have the shadow there.
I will see if i can get my warranty repair.
I just wanted to confirm that the SGS2 sure can have a Burn In, as it was declared before as "Burn In Proof".
I noticed it while playing the recently released Game "Osmos HD". The game's color temperature is pretty blue-dark, and thats where I can see a slight burn in of the Task Bar.
Afterwards I checked my screen with various LCD Test programs and BAM - with low brightness I see slight burn in of the whole task bar. I can even see the signal indicator, the battery percentage and the spot where the clock sits.
But its only visible at very low brightness and a blue-purple coloring.
I called my brother, who has the Galaxy S2 as well, and he directly went and checked with LCD Tester as well. He, too, reported to me that he also has a slight screen burn in of the task bar, tho its very tough to spot. I guess, if you dont know its there, u wont notice it.
We both have our SGS2 models now for roughly a year, and the screens already seem to decrease in quality and stability.
I am a fan of Super AMOLED+ color quality and contrasts, but my 2 bothers and me have all the yellow tint issue, tho its not very drastic, and all devices start to get kind of a permanent screen burn in.
Its really sad to see that the otherwise fabulous screens already show its age. I hoped that Samsung learned from the SGS1's issues and user feedback, but sadly, it seems like they kind of ignored the fact that the Super AMOLED cant take much action...
My girlfriends Desire HD's screen (which was my phone before I got the SGS2) is still showing good colors. Sometimes I think about getting an LCD device again...
I think what most posters in this thread are reporting is Samoled ghosting, ie image retention for a few secs. Its not permanent, unlike burn-in, which some people may experience after some months of usage.
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I think what most posters in this thread are reporting is Samoled ghosting, ie image retention for a few secs. Its not permanent, unlike burn-in, which some people may experience after some months of usage.
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No, its not ghosting at all.
The taskbar image thats burned in is from MIUI. And since I am running either and Sammy ICS Build or Androidmeda for a while now, this image must've been there for longer than I thought.
As I said, I just noticed it yesterday while trying out the Osmos HD Demo. And its clearly the MIUI taskbar. Must be there for more than a couple of days already.
No screen burn on my Galaxy S2! Btw, been comparing screen to iphone 4/4s and Galaxy S2 screen way better! You have to have some sort of "telescopic" vision to notice resolution advantige on 4s... Who anyway reads webpages fully zoomed out? LoL... With magnifyng glass?? Contrast and colors advantige is huge on galaxy side....
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No screen burn on my Galaxy S2! Btw, been comparing screen to iphone 4/4s and Galaxy S2 screen way better! You have to have some sort of "telescopic" vision to notice resolution advantige on 4s... Who anyway reads webpages fully zoomed out? LoL... With magnifyng glass?? Contrast and colors advantige is huge on galaxy side....
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I dunno why u are now comparing with the iPhone 4/4s here, but thanks ;-)
For how long are you using ur Galaxy S2 now? Mine is running non-stop since a roughly a year now.
And yes, it seems like a permanent screen burn in on my end. Just checked again, same visibility of the probably weeks-old MIUI taskbar.
Hi everyone!
As we all know, we're drawing close to the magical two-year anniversary since the Galaxy S was first released. Given all the time that has passed, our screen probably has seen pretty heavy usage, and as we know AMOLEDs degrade with use, it seems pretty inevitable that as time wears on, more and more people will be encountering burn-in on their screens. I'm sure that as XDA users, lots of us use our phone much more than the average layperson, and given an even more select group of us are diehard power users, a few of us would have noticed it much, much earlier.
Other forums have their own *****ing threads about burn-in, so I decided to create this thread for people to discuss their own experiences on the Galaxy S. Have any of you encountered your screen burning in yet? What's the silliest burn-in that you know of? Were you even aware that your AMOLED screen could burn in? I'm pretty sure some poor chap thought he could use his Galaxy S as a bedside clock, and wound up with a clockface permanently branded into his screen.
I'll start the ball rolling: I use a pure black status bar on my phone, as is typical of most custom ROMs here, so I have a clear bluish strip along the top of my screen. Blue AMOLEDs have a shorter half-life than red or green, so as the AMOLEDs on the rest of the screen slowly fade with use and become gradually and imperceptibly less bluish, the ones at the top of my screen are preserved, hence the strange appearance. This should be a farely common pattern of burn-in, so I would be surprised if many people don't have it as well.
Yep ditto on blue ghostly status bar burn-in here
It's not really visible over 10% brightness so it hasn't really bothered me though
My SGS has the SMS layout burnt onto my screen as well. It's not very obvious, but you can see "shadows" of it if you view the phone's screen from a certain angle with a white background.
I always use my phone in lowest brights possible, hence there is not much burn in for my screen. Only a little bit burn in where status bar's clock is. Other than that, nothing noticeable. :-D
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For all of those who want to know if the Samsung Galaxy S3 screen can get screen burn, the simple answer is YES. I've just been to Harvey Norman Computers and just seen one working model on display and because they are left on all day and usually on the one screen because nobody is using it it gets really bad screen burn in. Just thought I would let you know.
Have a nice day.
That sucks
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Such kinds of posts without some evidence are non sense.
Perhaps you need to "donate" to get some evidence..
It sure does. It's not going to put me off from buying one though, just have to be carefull and by the way, the screen on this phone is fantastic in my opinion. Heaps better than my Galaxy S2.
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Perhaps you need to "donate" to get some evidence..
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I already did...
Makes sense, but who actually leaves their screen on all day long?
My screen timeout is set to two mins...unless your phone is a display model in a shop why would you have the screen on with a static image all day long?
In other words I fail to see how this will affect the masses.
But in any event, thanks for the info dude!
All AMOLED (active-matrix organic light-emitting diode) burn in...
"The organic materials used in AMOLED displays are prone to degradation over a period of time. However, technology has been developed to compensate for material degradation." (Source)
As a result, Samsung decided to use PenTile AMOLED on the S3. PenTile generally do not burn in/degrade as much as regular RGB matrix (like the S2) as PenTile is missing a full set of Sub Pixels, in which the particular colour "blue" have the tendency to degrade faster than the other colours...
I have visible burn in marks of the keyboard on my S2 when the screen is dimmed, however its effects is virtually non existent when at 100% brightness. Im not a particular big fan of PenTile when I saw the original S1, but now with such high DPIs on the screen of S3, the PenTile looks virtually to be the same as RGB matrix so doesnt bother me...plus less burn in...so no loss there...but be aware that a certain level of burn in is to be expected...
Just over a year ago when I got my sgs2 I noticed what might be described as burn in. At the time many of us took to the forum to discuss the horror we'd discovered with our new super amoled toys.
A year later and I don't even think about it because it is not burn in as we know from CRT displays. The image can just be left behind a little longer than other displays but they do go.
This is really nothing to worry about and is just a characteristic of amoled.
If I watch videos quite a lot on my phone the possibility of screen burn is going to be reduced significantly isn't it?
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If I watch videos quite a lot on my phone the possibility of screen burn is going to be reduced significantly isn't it?
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the effects of AMOLED degradation is more profound if it continues to display the same frame (such as a video on pause or menu icons) as they are displayed continuously on the same pixels for a longer period of time compared to other various pixels that may alternate...similar issue to plasma TV...as the "backlit" is produced from each individual pixel...thats why it was never used as computer monitors...
TFT LCD and other various and similar LCDs technologies do not have this issue since the illumination produce upon the entire panel...(thus lower contrast ratio compared to AMOLED)...
For this reason i would be happy to know if there is some application that hide completely the status bar... it's the only thing it's quite alaways displayed...
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Are you kidding? There is no evidence suggesting that the SGS3 will not be affected by burn-in, considering pretty much every OLED screen in existence is susceptible to it.
To those thinking "because it's PenTile it won't get burn-in", I will just remind you other PenTile displays have suffered from burn-in as far back as the Nexus One.
I seriously doubt the SGS3 is any exception to burn-in. It's just a side-effect of OLED technology in general.
It should not be an issue if you don't leave the display on a static image- and if you're very paranoid, you could install a custom ROM that allows for complete hiding of the status bar when you're not using it (I would imagine the SGS3 will have a ROM with this capability soon if it doesn't already).
Dumb question but if i have my gs3 on full brightness will that up my chances of getting a burn in?
I have an app from the market called burn in saviour, it runs the taskbar in different colours while the rest is black to help degrade the taskbar with the rest of the screen.My only problem at the moment is it was setup for the s2, I don't know how many pixels the s3 taskbar is. If anybody can tell me I would really appreciate it.
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Samoled displays are, according to the samsung source on the amoled wikipedia page, rated to run for 8 hours a day for 5 to 8 years before being reduced to half their brightness.
So basically you are not likely to own the phone long enough for "screen burn in" or more accurately the degradation of the organic componants of the display to actually become a legitimate problem.
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Remember that blue is the worse colour for burn-in, which its why Samsung use green colors in the notification bar. Try not to use blue if you can, if you get a ROM that uses blue, user a theme to change notification bar to green.
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With stock rom it's impossible change the color of the status bar... i have root, is it possible to permanently hide the status bar maybe through an app?
Apex launcher, actually several launchers let you hide the dock and status bar.
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Sure, i use nova launcher, but it hide the dock bar only in home and app drawer, for the rest of application like gmail, system setting and many other app the status bar is still here...
I'm a Samsung user from Note 1 and all the display AMOLED suffers the burn in , expecially on the status bar ( clock , signal level , battery... )
Why Samsung doesn't enable the Immersive mode?
http://developer.android.com/training/system-ui/immersive.html
Could we send to Samsung some advices? ( It worked for microSD )
I have frinds using the sgs1. No burn in what do ever. I used an s4 for over a yr and no burn in
I never noticed this issue and all my phones have been amoled
I also have the Note 1, and it does have "burn-in" where the statusbar is. By having a black statusbar or static black areas, the black pixels are OFF, which means that those pixels won't be used as much as the rest of them that are lit. This means that the pixels that have been off for most of the time, are brighter than the other ones that have been actively used for a long period of time, and the "background" of the statusbar will then be brighter than the rest of the display when they're active.
Lollipop removed that black statusbar at the homescreen, and a lot of apps today have a colored statusbar, which means that that area is active, so the pixels will age at the same pace, avoiding "burn in". So you'll actually risk getting "burn ins" if you use a black theme for a longer period of time. A lot of people complain that Samsung doesn't use on-screen navigation, but there's a reason. On-screen navigation requires a black bar at the bottom of the screen, which again, means that those pixels will be in-active for most of the time, causing burn-in at the bottom of the screen. They avoid that by using hardware buttons instead.
I don't see it as a problem if you just use the phone as intended, and if I notice any burn in like two years from now, it won't be any issue, since I'll probably move to a different phone by then. Also, keep in mind that AMOLED tech is always evolving, and there have been massive changes in quality since the first Note, so don't compare the panels of the Note 1 with the S7.
My last phone was a Note3 and... yes after 2year he was having burn in guys... when you use facebook or whatsapp the status bar becomes black and the icon of battery signal and other symbols got stucked....
if you use phone with %100 brightness and 10 hours a day. You have more chance for burn in. Dont use with full brightness. I'm student and i worked at samsung techhnical service. Mostly demo devices has burn in because they works weeks/months with %100 brightness.
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Nikka93 said:
My last phone was a Note3 and... yes after 2year he was having burn in guys... when you use facebook or whatsapp the status bar becomes black and the icon of battery signal and other symbols got stucked....
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It's actually the other way around It's the black area around the battery and other icons that is brighter due to the black pixels being a lot more in-active than the surrounding pixels that are lit. The brightness of the active pixels gets weaker over time, so the black pixels that are in-active in longer periods of time won't have been used as much, so they're brighter than the other ones that have been active the whole time.
I think most people here get it by now, but I just want to point it out in a more obvious way, so I won't repeat this again in this thread, lol.
"Burn-in" is also technically the wrong thing to call it since there isn't any burn-in at all, but yeah :silly:
call it as you like but imho is a problem... also use an app in immersive mode is more better...! I don't need to see time o signal when i'm on facebook!
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call it as you like but imho is a problem... also use an app in immersive mode is more better...! I don't need to see time o signal when i'm on facebook!
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That's what I'm telling you. There's no disagreement here.
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I have frinds using the sgs1. No burn in what do ever. I used an s4 for over a yr and no burn in
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Same, S2, S3, and S4. No burn-in whatsoever.
I had slight burn in one one of my S's S2 or S3 I think but nothing major. However, I just checked out a store model S7 edge which literally had burn-in or as the poster above pointed out "pixel brightness level difference". It was so bad and obvious, I would not have bought that phone for one third of its retail price.
Is it possible to have immersive mode on my S7 edge? Via an app or something?
matterial design means something for any one? this helps a lot to avoid the burn in on the amoled screen, olders androids versions dont have it, so i think burn in problems was on the past, i think
Not understanding how immersive mode would help. The screen is still lit with colors. And Samsung does use immersive mode on certain apps, I just used Samsung Pay and saw it.
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