I have both the Nexus S and a Vibrant. I must say that the Nexus S super amoled display looks better then the Vibrant super amoled display and, it's not the brightness. I turned the Nexus S screen to the lowest setting and, I turned the Vibrant to the highest setting as a result the Nexus S screen looks alot better. What's you all thoughts on this?...please don't say that the vibrant is a defective product because, this will be my 4'th Vibrant do to this...thanks.
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Every SAMOLED screen has its own characteristics, there are no two SAMOLED screens that are identical, they just have to fall between an upper and lower specification
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Thanks.
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I think that a newer display should come with a change log...lol but, trust me the Nexus S display is indeed a different better screen. I thought that a LCD was a LCD Super Amoled was a Super Amoled, just a different resolution and, size. It would be nice to let a customer know what they are buying. Thanks.
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Really, looking at both displays and back of the boxes checking to see if both are super amoled displays drove me crazy, I knew it was't my eyes. Sucks my Vibrant SUCK!
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I've noticed this as well... that is of you didn't get one with the ugly yellow/grey tint screen. I'm on my 6th sns and this one has the best amoled screen I've ever seen. I went through a few vibrants and ended up with a pretty nice one there too but there's no comparison with the particular nexus s. It even looks better than my buddy's fascinate which has a better screen than any vibrant I've seen or owned. Whites on this phone are awesome and very neutral with barely any tint at all. Even at its lowest brightness setting I don't have any purple or pink on the status bar pull down. Even on my phones that didn't have this exact quality screen still were great looking amoleds.
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I had 3 NS prior to the one I have now. The first one had a piss yellow screen, the second one had a off purple hue and the third had wifi issues....
The forth one is perfect in every way
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I switched from the Sprint Epic to the Nexus S and i have to agree, my epics screen just didn't look as good as the nexus one did. On the epic i would normally set the brightness to halfway and it looked decent but on my nexus i leave it on auto and regardless of where i am it looks amazing. I don't know why but it does look better
So I take it, Super Amoled's are not all the same. I think they don't tell us this because of business reasons. Besides, I think it would be cool to know the name of my Nexus S screen cause I know for a fact the Nexus S has the best Amoled display out there.
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So I take it, Super Amoled's are not all the same. I think they don't tell us this because of business reasons. Besides, I think it would be cool to know the name of my Nexus S screen cause I know for a fact the Nexus S has the best Amoled display out there.
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My guess is that they use the same basic technology but given the time between release dates some new parts or processes may have gone into the making of the Nexus S screens. The Nexus S definitely has a Super Active-Matrix Organic Light Emitting Diode (SAMOLED) but just looks slightly better. Heck it might even be due to the Contour Display (as it is called), who knows?
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My guess is that they use the same basic technology but given the time between release dates some new parts or processes may have gone into the making of the Nexus S screens. The Nexus S definitely has a Super Active-Matrix Organic Light Emitting Diode (SAMOLED) but just looks slightly better. Heck it might even be due to the Contour Display (as it is called), who knows?
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Contour Display is just what I was about to say but, you beat me to it. Thanks Guy's I thought this would be a good post and it was. Again thanks.
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My Vibrant's screen looks a million times better than my Nexus. I'm on my second Nexus, both of them were bad, and so was the demo in the store. I'd rather have the blue tinge on the Vibrant over either screen I have seen on the Nexus.
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My Vibrant's screen looks a million times better than my Nexus. I'm on my second Nexus, both of them were bad, and so was the demo in the store. I'd rather have the blue tinge on the Vibrant over either screen I have seen on the Nexus.
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sorry but if that's the case you need to return your ns again
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sorry but if that's the case you need to return your ns again
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I also dabble in mastering the obvious on occasion.
its funny when it comes to screen on the nexus S, we find almost the same people replying " including me "
i think we reached a points where we are the " experts " of the screens now.
**** the phone. lets test screens. more fun
i think i would be a great quality control employee if this keeps up ^_^
I've been talking to supercurio about the screen issues, he says that they are fixable and that the contrast and gamma settings aren't correct. This totally makes sense to me, but I'm waiting to hear back on whether it will be included in his program or if this is a setting somewhere where I can adjust it.
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I've been talking to supercurio about the screen issues, he says that they are fixable and that the contrast and gamma settings aren't correct. This totally makes sense to me, but I'm waiting to hear back on whether it will be included in his program or if this is a setting somewhere where I can adjust it.
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That would be awesome, Keep me updated.
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Ok, I just recived my second Incredible replacement after the first on had a light red to the white balance verses my original. This second has the same. I notice the contrst is a touch less then the original and the black doesnt seem quire as dark at time when compairing. Also one positive is that it seems a little brighter also thatn the original that I know us amoled. How can I tell if they switched to the Sony super tft display? Its not a huge deal just disapointing after getting used to the amoled. I personaly like that displays color balance better. Just want to knoe why these screens are different.
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Ok, I just recived my second Incredible replacement after the first on had a light red to the white balance verses my original. This second has the same. I notice the contrst is a touch less then the original and the black doesnt seem quire as dark at time when compairing. Also one positive is that it seems a little brighter also thatn the original that I know us amoled. How can I tell if they switched to the Sony super tft display? Its not a huge deal just disapointing after getting used to the amoled. I personaly like that displays color balance better. Just want to knoe why these screens are different.
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Im not positive how to tell if its changed or not but I do know that they did get rid of the AMOLED because of the shortages.
From what was announced only the nexus one and desire ee changed to slcd not the incredible.
My gf got a new replacement and hers has a purpleish tint to it when the brightness is low. A lot more noticeable then my phone. Looks like AMOLED though. The blacks are black.
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Im not positive how to tell if its changed or not but I do know that they did get rid of the AMOLED because of the shortages.
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HTC has publicly stated quite the opposite. The N1 and Desire switched to SLCD, but they have no immediate plans to switch the Incredible due to the change in the aforementioned two handsets alleviating the shortage.
htc was originally gonna switch incredible to SLCD, they never stated they WERENT gonna switch it due to affirmed Nexus and Desire switch though.
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htc was originally gonna switch incredible to SLCD, they never stated they WERENT gonna switch it due to affirmed Nexus and Desire switch though.
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HTC's statement, sent as a reply to htcsource.com...
"Because AMOLED supply is being relieved on other models, we currently feel we can meet demand of Droid Incredible with AMOLED screens. Of course we may need to change our minds and add sLCD screen models should demand continue to remain high.”
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Really in the end it doesnt matter because they need to drop the amoled screens and just go with the samoled screens
There is definetly a difference between my original and these 2 replacments. I still have the original incredible in hand to compair with the second replacment.
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Look closely at the pixels for the pentile arrangement, if the edges of straight lines look like dotted lines, its still AMOLED. A good place to see it is to pull down the notification shade, and look at the edge of the O where it says Ongoing, with the pentile matrix on the AMOLED screen you can tell the O is jagged and not smooth.
Was wondering this too, my little brother just got an incredible and it looks fine in sunlight like my evo when they are both at full brightness. I also noticed that like the evo, on HTC.com the type of screen is not listed, just says touch sensitive display. Just last week it said amoled. He just got the phone this past Wednesday, the hardware version is 002.
After many phonecalls and internet research I found out they did change the screen to slcd. The sku with vw2 notes this. The amoled defintly has a better color balance but if you did know this you might not notice. Shame I think I am sticking with my original even thought the switch can be flakey at times.
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002 is the normal amoled. BTW, VZW got a froyo build that listed "LCD support" in the change logs, so they are at least preparing for the switch in case it ever does come.
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I'm on 3rd (hope last) inc due to warranty issues. Second was brand new, but had to wait due to backorder in June.
This latest one was a refurb, but looks and acts like a new one. I had some initial concerns, though. Just like the earlier poster, this has a purplish tint on the grays when using a setting dimmer than about 50%. I may not have noticed it if I hadn't had the other ones first. It's noticeable, but something I can live with. In any case, the display is crisp and clear, and the effect goes away as the brightness is turned up.
Awesome phone; even better thanks to XDA forums.
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Really in the end it doesnt matter because they need to drop the amoled screens and just go with the samoled screens
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Too bad Samsung is holding those internally for up to a year in their own phones. By the time they release SAMOLED screens to other companies they've probably got something better already.
I don't worry about AMOLED vs sLCD because I got one of the engineering prototypes with AMOP technology (Active-Matrix Organic Plasma). Makes the production-run screens look like etch-a-sketch by comparison!
I'll be skruud if I ever brick it tho
People may say that out super amoled display is getting old and everything, but its only getting old compared to the super + varients and hd amoleds. so far i have not seen a smart phone capable of my vibrants supreme colors and deep blacks. dont forget viewing angles. my cuzzin was all happy cuz she got a htc vivid n thought the screen was better than mine cuz it was bigger lol. then i showed her mine next to hers and she was like wtf? it doesnt look as white or bright lol. gosh, im never getting rid of the vibrant till the hd plus varients come out. forget lcd. its just outdated and a waste of time. nokia and samsung know that
HTC has used amoled before I don't see why they don't continue and Motorola has used it Led Tech is simple better plane an simple
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The only thing I never liked was with the stock rom/kernel from when I first got my vibrant is missed calls and texts kept the screen lit, especially overnight, which in turn kind of burnt the notification bar and clock slightly into the screen that I notice on a white screen :facepalm: no fix for that I assume?
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...so far i have not seen a smart phone capable of my vibrants supreme colors and deep blacks. dont forget viewing angles. ...
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Yup, over the holidays my aunt hade a point to mention how ..er.. vibrant my screen was. Her adult sons have smartphones so it's not like she's never seen one before, but mine stood out.
Then again, maybe it was because I was letting my niece watch Spongebob.
Lol. you know idk why people over exagerate saying that our screens are not "sharp" seems pretty sharp to me. its a nice trade of for having everything else superior
Our screen does kinda suck compared to other phones... But i've noticed my screen seems to be the most durable. I've stepped on my phone a couple times, it dropped then i get out of the car and crack.... I even stepped on it one time with a rock on the side and the screen doesn't have a single scratch..
Thats about all I can say I like.
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Our screen does kinda suck compared to other phones... But i've noticed my screen seems to be the most durable. I've stepped on my phone a couple times, it dropped then i get out of the car and crack.... I even stepped on it one time with a rock on the side and the screen doesn't have a single scratch..
Thats about all I can say I like.
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What other phones are you talking about here?
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Hell I like the screen on this phone even more than the one on the galaxy s 2. The galaxy s 2's screen just doesn't look as nice and the colors are weird. Maybe its cause of that blueish tint. And the low resolution on that bug of a screen? Eww
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Older phones like the HTC HD2 couldn't match our phones AMOLED display, but when your talking about the new Galaxy S2, or even a phone like the HTC Amaze both have fascinating displays.
I've compared them side by side and i personally think our phones have more of a yellowish tint that isn't so great.
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Older phones like the HTC HD2 couldn't match our phones AMOLED display, but when your talking about the new Galaxy S2, or even a phone like the HTC Amaze both have fascinating displays.
I've compared them side by side and i personally think our phones have more of a yellowish tint that isn't so great.
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You shouldn't be comparing a new phone to an older phone in the first place, chances are the new one will always be better.
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You shouldn't be comparing a new phone to an older phone in the first place, chances are the new one will always be better.
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This is true, but call me crazy I thought my G2 had a better display. and the HTC Evo was pretty sweet..
It's just something about this offset yellowish tint. The whites never seen pure, although i'll give it the black is definantly more black than an LCD.
don't you guys have voodoo control center to tweck colors?
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I know its pixel density, and its just perfect to me. However, how is the color saturation and other aspects of the display? Ive read a couple of reviews that said it was a bit dull, but I don't totally believe these big tech blog reviews. If it is dull though, is there anything in the way of color calibration?
I think the colors are great. Of course, it's not an AMOLED, but it gets the job done.
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I think the colors are great. Of course, it's not an AMOLED, but it gets the job done.
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Exactly. Compared it to the S3, and yeah, not an AMOLED. But the screen does not bother me
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Lol its got nothing on a Samoled but its definetly not bad, unless you get one that has a warm tone to it. My last c60 replacement had a warm screen, current c70 has a cooler screen and colors look natural as oposed to the bluer and more saturated samoled that im used to on the GNex. There is no color calibration as of yet.
Ok, that pretty much was the only thing holding me back from buying one, but not anymore Probably wont need it, but will we probably get some kind of screen calibration eventually? I just like tweaking things.
Edit: I saw that you mentioned something about the c70 version with the warm colors. Which version is the best one to get?
Has anyone notice the vertical lines especially on gray backgrounds like the notification pull down?
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Yup. Easily noticeable if you put the phone on full brightness and drag down the pulldown menu.
My S2 had it much worse tho, was hoping it wouldn't happen with this phone. I guess all phone LCDs are like that?
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Yup. Easily noticeable if you put the phone on full brightness and drag down the pulldown menu.
My S2 had it much worse tho, was hoping it wouldn't happen with this phone. I guess all phone LCDs are like that?
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Yeah it sucks but I guess its better then blobs and dark black spots all over the screen like in amoled screens
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That's exactly what my s2 had. And yeah it's hardly noticeable if the screen isn't full brightness. I never have it on max anyway, I find it too bright and it ruins the contrast somewhat
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Yuuup I see it.
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Yep I have them as well but never noticed them before. I really had to look hard to see them, and only on full brightness. It's a non-issue for me.
i noticed this too...didn't have it as bad as my other n4 that i had to rma. i actually notice lines and blobs. mostly noticeable on grey backgrounds like jb menus. really hated the blobs on amoled screens but seems like lcd's get it too
One the biggest reasons I am hesitating to upgrade from my S3 is just that, defects... they seem rampant with this phone. I have not a single defect on my S3, and there are no screen oddity's to speak of.
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One the biggest reasons I am hesitating to upgrade from my S3 is just that, defects... they seem rampant with this phone. I have not a single defect on my S3, and there are no screen oddity's to speak of.
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You don't have lines or blobs on the s3? It's a amoled screen
I have an iphone 4 for 2 years and don't notice these line, Yet when I first got the Nexus I could see it right away, Looking at my old iphone 4 and no line at all. Most be a lg screen built quality.
Just got my n4 yesterday and it was flawless until earlier tonight while web browsing a vertical line appeared to the far left of the screen it sticks out like a sore thumb against white backgrounds like most web pages.its very irritating and even blinks in and out.I swore I'd never buy lg after the g2x screen disaster but had to its a nexus do I so sold my gs3 yesterday and now I'm stuck with this annoying line.even if I RMA it will take forever to get a new one.
Wait, the IPS+ on the Nexus 4 has vertical banding? I thought that that problem was exclusive to the Super AMOLED HD on the Galaxy Nexus. In fact, I exchanged 3 of them to get one with banding that didn't show on all backgrounds. So as I now understand it, this was not an AMOLED HD problem?
Could it be a software thing? My old Droid X's non-HD LCD never seemed to have these issues. Neither does the SLCD3 screen of the Droid DNA. Very weird.
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You don't have lines or blobs on the s3? It's a amoled screen
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Lol, I don't know what you've been reading about amoled screens but they're not as rampant with problems as everyone makes them out to be. I'm I'm my third phone with an amoled panel and they've all been perfect. No yellow tint, no blobs, etc. The only issue I ever encountered was the first s2i had, had a dead pixel. Aside from that they're incredible. Prefer them to any LCD screen personally, and I'm a full times graphics artist )
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Lol, I don't know what you've been reading about amoled screens but they're not as rampant with problems as everyone makes them out to be. I'm I'm my third phone with an amoled panel and they've all been perfect. No yellow tint, no blobs, etc. The only issue I ever encountered was the first s2i had, had a dead pixel. Aside from that they're incredible. Prefer them to any LCD screen personally, and I'm a full times graphics artist )
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I've had 2 S2 and 2 gnex. They all had lines or blobs
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I've had 2 S2 and 2 gnex. They all had lines or blobs
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I've had galaxy s 1,2,3 and gnex and none of them had lines or blobs in fact the only other phone I had screen problems with was also made by lg the g2x I exchanged twice all three had backlight bleeding
I have this too but very low, I have too be looking hard to see them. It's not very anoying but in the JB menu I can see them a little bit ... My last phone amoled was burning ...
I seeeeeeeee them thanks for pointing it out haha never noticed them before >_>
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So, is this normal or not ? I think so, but I'm not sure... Other report ?
I can hardly see them. You guys are really trying to be picky with the phone.
I started to agree with those who say if you don't like it, sell it on eBay.
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I can hardly see them. You guys are really trying to be picky with the phone.
I started to agree with those who say if you don't like it, sell it on eBay.
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Yeah maybe your right. So i think every body have thèse line but very very hard too sée ? It's not really an issue ?
I was reading TechRadar's review while waiting for my N4 to be delivered. They made a lot of big promises on the LCD's ability to show black. Here are the highlights so you don't have to read the whole thing:
"When you're looking at icons on a black background (like in the app drawer), you can't even see the black, if that makes sense. It is so deep, that icons just float."
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"The screen is invisible when off – but when it lights up, you're treated to 4.7-inches of True HD IPS Plus beauty."
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"It is razor sharp – blowing Retina out of the water and we'll venture it is one of the best we've seen on a handset."
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This put my expectations high. Upon actually receiving my N4, it was underwhelming. I can see the black, I'll say the LCD does black well, but not as well as the review states. My LCD is also not invisible when off. I can look at the front of the phone at almost any angle and be able to tell you where the edges of the screen are when it's off. Lastly, (this is mostly opinion) I think that while this screen is comparable to Retina, it doesn't "blow it out of the water."
What are your experiences with the N4's screen? It would seem either TechRadar was stretching the truth, or LG started shipping newer phones with cheaper LCDs inside. Thoughts?
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I was reading TechRadar's review while waiting for my N4 to be delivered. They made a lot of big promises on the LCD's ability to show black. Here are the highlights so you don't have to read the whole thing:
This put my expectations high. Upon actually receiving my N4, it was underwhelming. I can see the black, I'll say the LCD does black well, but not as well as the review states. My LCD is also not invisible when off. I can look at the front of the phone at almost any angle and be able to tell you where the edges of the screen are when it's off. Lastly, (this is mostly opinion) I think that while this screen is comparable to Retina, it doesn't "blow it out of the water."
What are your experiences with the N4's screen? It would seem either TechRadar was stretching the truth, or LG started shipping newer phones with cheaper LCDs inside. Thoughts?
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I love the screen the only thing I miss on the samoled screens are the black. Other then that it's way better then anything I've owned.
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I wont criticize anything from now on. Because here people always want to hear good things about everything. So i would say N4 has the best display i have ever seen in any phone.
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I wont criticize anything from now on. Because here people always want to hear good things about everything. So i would say N4 has the best display i have ever seen in any phone.
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Smells like butthurt.
OP, I can see my LCD's borders with the screen off, too. So what? It looks great.
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It would seem either TechRadar was stretching the truth, or LG started shipping newer phones with cheaper LCDs inside. Thoughts?
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Or maybe, just maybe, each phone is not 100% like the next. Nor is each person's eyesight.
But that would be crazy, wouldn't it?
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The blacks are pretty deep for me after calibrating with an oled.
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I'm very impressed by the display personally. Yes, I can distinguish between the screen and the bezel but I honestly don't care. Colours are surprisingly on par with the SGS3 but not as oversaturated, and whites are more white than the SGS3. The sharpness of the display is great as well. Overall, pretty awesome.
What gets me the most is the off angle blacks, they are horrible, unless you look at the phone perfectly perpendicular to the sides and tops then the blacks invert and become bright gray, even a slight change in viewing angle causes major degradation, its almost as bad as a TN display. Like all LCD's the blacks look great in a bright room, its when it gets dark that it turns to crap.