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Incredible Screen type changed?

Ok, I just recived my second Incredible replacement after the first on had a light red to the white balance verses my original. This second has the same. I notice the contrst is a touch less then the original and the black doesnt seem quire as dark at time when compairing. Also one positive is that it seems a little brighter also thatn the original that I know us amoled. How can I tell if they switched to the Sony super tft display? Its not a huge deal just disapointing after getting used to the amoled. I personaly like that displays color balance better. Just want to knoe why these screens are different.
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Boss428man said:
Ok, I just recived my second Incredible replacement after the first on had a light red to the white balance verses my original. This second has the same. I notice the contrst is a touch less then the original and the black doesnt seem quire as dark at time when compairing. Also one positive is that it seems a little brighter also thatn the original that I know us amoled. How can I tell if they switched to the Sony super tft display? Its not a huge deal just disapointing after getting used to the amoled. I personaly like that displays color balance better. Just want to knoe why these screens are different.
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Im not positive how to tell if its changed or not but I do know that they did get rid of the AMOLED because of the shortages.

From what was announced only the nexus one and desire ee changed to slcd not the incredible.

My gf got a new replacement and hers has a purpleish tint to it when the brightness is low. A lot more noticeable then my phone. Looks like AMOLED though. The blacks are black.
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Kipphh said:
Im not positive how to tell if its changed or not but I do know that they did get rid of the AMOLED because of the shortages.
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HTC has publicly stated quite the opposite. The N1 and Desire switched to SLCD, but they have no immediate plans to switch the Incredible due to the change in the aforementioned two handsets alleviating the shortage.

htc was originally gonna switch incredible to SLCD, they never stated they WERENT gonna switch it due to affirmed Nexus and Desire switch though.

mb02 said:
htc was originally gonna switch incredible to SLCD, they never stated they WERENT gonna switch it due to affirmed Nexus and Desire switch though.
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HTC's statement, sent as a reply to htcsource.com...
"Because AMOLED supply is being relieved on other models, we currently feel we can meet demand of Droid Incredible with AMOLED screens. Of course we may need to change our minds and add sLCD screen models should demand continue to remain high.”
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http://www.htcsource.com/2010/07/ht...cd-displays-for-the-nexus-one-and-htc-desire/

Really in the end it doesnt matter because they need to drop the amoled screens and just go with the samoled screens

There is definetly a difference between my original and these 2 replacments. I still have the original incredible in hand to compair with the second replacment.
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Look closely at the pixels for the pentile arrangement, if the edges of straight lines look like dotted lines, its still AMOLED. A good place to see it is to pull down the notification shade, and look at the edge of the O where it says Ongoing, with the pentile matrix on the AMOLED screen you can tell the O is jagged and not smooth.

Was wondering this too, my little brother just got an incredible and it looks fine in sunlight like my evo when they are both at full brightness. I also noticed that like the evo, on HTC.com the type of screen is not listed, just says touch sensitive display. Just last week it said amoled. He just got the phone this past Wednesday, the hardware version is 002.

After many phonecalls and internet research I found out they did change the screen to slcd. The sku with vw2 notes this. The amoled defintly has a better color balance but if you did know this you might not notice. Shame I think I am sticking with my original even thought the switch can be flakey at times.
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002 is the normal amoled. BTW, VZW got a froyo build that listed "LCD support" in the change logs, so they are at least preparing for the switch in case it ever does come.
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I'm on 3rd (hope last) inc due to warranty issues. Second was brand new, but had to wait due to backorder in June.
This latest one was a refurb, but looks and acts like a new one. I had some initial concerns, though. Just like the earlier poster, this has a purplish tint on the grays when using a setting dimmer than about 50%. I may not have noticed it if I hadn't had the other ones first. It's noticeable, but something I can live with. In any case, the display is crisp and clear, and the effect goes away as the brightness is turned up.
Awesome phone; even better thanks to XDA forums.
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Kipphh said:
Really in the end it doesnt matter because they need to drop the amoled screens and just go with the samoled screens
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Too bad Samsung is holding those internally for up to a year in their own phones. By the time they release SAMOLED screens to other companies they've probably got something better already.

I don't worry about AMOLED vs sLCD because I got one of the engineering prototypes with AMOP technology (Active-Matrix Organic Plasma). Makes the production-run screens look like etch-a-sketch by comparison!
I'll be skruud if I ever brick it tho

Not all Nexus S SAMOLED Displays are the same

Hi everyone,
I'm starting this thread to show you guys that not all Nexus S AMOLEDS are the same. I purchased a Nexus S on launch day from one store, and my brother bought a nexus S from another best buy store. We were comparing each others phones, and mine turned out to be darker than his, specifically the whites. We compared our screens at full brightness, and we set the same backgrounds, and his was noticeably better looking. So I went and exchanged mine, the new one I got still suffered from having darker whites, but it was not as bad as the first one, so when we compared them again, his was still better. I took a few pictures of the new one i got compared with his (on right). It may not look like much, but if you look at it in person, it's very noticeable when they are next to each other. I think you guys should compare your nexus s with a display model at a store, or with someone else to see what I'm talking about. I think it's easiest to see what i'm talking about if you look at the search widget. Like I said the first one I had was worse, but I'm comparing the newly exchanged one (left) with my brothers (right).
http://i.imgur.com/iAbJW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0wlmy.jpg
http://imgur.com/mtqCZ.jpg
http://imgur.com/k0deb.jpg

mine is bright enough for me. thats really all i care about.

tekkitan said:
mine is bright enough for me. thats really all i care about.
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I agree with you
It's like my mom says not everything can be 100% perfect

Yeah I know what you're speaking of. I started a thread here about it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877497

I went through this when I bought dual monitors for my computer. It is nearly impossible to find two monitors exactly the same. You will not know the difference unless you keep comparing it to others.

momohammed20 said:
Hi everyone,
http://i.imgur.com/iAbJW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0wlmy.jpg
http://imgur.com/mtqCZ.jpg
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in your pix... no to wallpapers are alike

tks989 said:
in your pix... no to wallpapers are alike
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lol thats true. it made me laugh lol
download a solid white wallpaper. set the brightness to the highest. if one of them is cool blue white then this is good screen. if its warm yellowish white, then its a bad screen.
also there is the issue with pinkish disaplay. download a solid gray wallpaper. set the brightness to the lowest, if the gray turns to pink a little. you have a defective screen no matter what others tell you. if it stays gray " like my old Samsung Galaxy S " then you have a perfect screen.
AND there is also the grid pattern matrix you can see on the lowest brightness on the same gray wallpaper. ALL of them are more visible on the Super Amoled screens, just try to get one that is not very noticable.
if you got all those 3 perfectly " with no dead pixels or stuck pixels. then your phone worth alot.
i sold my galaxy S USED more than i bought it NEW because of these effects when i mentioned them to the buyer and he saw with his own eyes the difference. plus it didnt have single scratch on the whole phone so it was like a brand new.

nit picking, there basically the same

rashad1 said:
nit picking, there basically the same
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No one's nitpicking. It's a matter of what you're willing to settle for. I paid my 580.00 for a phone to display the colors correctly. I didn't pay that much for the display to change colors just because I lower the brightness.

rashad1 said:
nit picking, there basically the same
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it's hard to show what i'm talking about in the picture, but in person (picture was taken with iphone 4, so it wont show that much), it is very noticeable if the two are side by side.

tks989 said:
in your pix... no to wallpapers are alike
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ya, after i took pics, i realized they were not on the same page on the home screen.

This is a very common issue on the Galaxy S phones too. Different suppliers are used in the manufacturing process resulting in some screens with warmer color temps, and others with cooler ones. The Engadget review of the Nexus S specifically called out a warmer temp by the way.
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Dumb question, but did you verify that the brightness levels in settings are set to the same values? Or at least compared the two phones when at the lowest and highest settings?

vroomr4 said:
Dumb question, but did you verify that the brightness levels in settings are set to the same values? Or at least compared the two phones when at the lowest and highest settings?
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ya, i actually made sure they were both brightest, and when they are both on the lowest, you can tell one of them displays brighter whites. But the first one I had was worse than the one I have in the pictures on the left, it's hard to notice that you have a screen that does not produce nice whites, unless you see another nexus s that does a better job.

I actually like the ones on the left, the ones on the right crush the blacks, resulting in basically everything washed out, even if it "looks" better to you, it isn't from a calibrator prospective.

The Evo 4G had the same thing going on with its display. HTC used 2 different Manufacturers for the screen, One Novatec, One Was Epson. I believe the Novatec panel had darker colors (warmer?) resulting in more of a purplish color on blacks (what ll_l_x_l_ll calls pink for whatever reason) While the epson didnt have any purplish tone, but most say had a washed out look.
I would say though that on the nexus S, probably 99% of them are going to have a little purplish effect on the lowest brightness setting. If the OPs brothers phone has no purplish color, that would be the first i have seen. Ive seen many many demo units, several video reviews, and even the 2.3 rom ported to other galaxy S phones, and they all have the "purplish" display.
All my whites on my phone are really white, and blacks are really black.
Only be concerned if your screen looks like this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882862
That would definatley warrant an exchange, because they are NOT supposed to look like that.
My Screen looks better than his I9000 though too, but that could be his camera too washing out the colors a bit

Psosmith82 said:
The Evo 4G had the same thing going on with its display. HTC used 2 different Manufacturers for the screen, One Novatec, One Was Epson. I believe the Novatec panel had darker colors (warmer?) resulting in more of a purplish color on blacks (what ll_l_x_l_ll calls pink for whatever reason) While the epson didnt have any purplish tone, but most say had a washed out look.
I would say though that on the nexus S, probably 99% of them are going to have a little purplish effect on the lowest brightness setting. If the OPs brothers phone has no purplish color, that would be the first i have seen. Ive seen many many demo units, several video reviews, and even the 2.3 rom ported to other galaxy S phones, and they all have the "purplish" display.
All my whites on my phone are really white, and blacks are really black.
Only be concerned if your screen looks like this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882862
That would definatley warrant an exchange, because they are NOT supposed to look like that.
My Screen looks better than his I9000 though too, but that could be his camera too washing out the colors a bit
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Yeah my camera isn't great, it was poor light but it was enough to show the difference.
My i9000 screen is pretty incredible, I'd be impressed if I saw one better.
Oddly though, you say that if it turns blue when the brightness is turned right up, it's a good screen - my Nexus S does that. But it's yellow when the brightness is low.
Personally I think I'm going to take your advice in another thread. I'm going to return this phone for a refund, enjoy using my i9000 for a while as it's now apparent that the screen is excellent (I never really had GPS issues either, so I'm pretty lucky), and go around stores when they have stock to find a screen that compares favourably against my i9000. I'm in a nice position that I can do a side-by-side comparison each time.

momohammed20 said:
it's hard to show what i'm talking about in the picture, but in person (picture was taken with iphone 4, so it wont show that much), it is very noticeable if the two are side by side.
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bazinga.
hit under the belt.

Why not load up Google site in the browser to do your comparison? That way its identical.

lol
So, I guess not many of you have ever messed around with the LCD monitor in front of you (if you have one).
Mine I can set to be a cool white or a warm white.
Here is the real problem... Your brother is smarter than you. You see, there is a difference maybe in the screens. But instead of him *****ing about it, he likely just said his was better. Thus leaving you with the **** screen.
The tables could have been turned if you would have said "HAHA your screen is broken, and mine is better" the second you found the screens were different. Then it would be him here all upset about the screen.
The things people ***** about on this form are just crazy. And no, I don't care about how much you spent on your phone. When you buy any product you should only have a expectation that it is usable, not perfect. And thats mostly because perfect is mostly opinion when it comes to things like this.
Also, this is a phone, not a pro display marked for having the most accurate color production.
What kills me most is the people who take phones back over and over for problems that only exist in their heads. All you are doing is raising the cost of phones and keeping them high for everybody else.

Nexus S super amoled display Vs Vibrant

I have both the Nexus S and a Vibrant. I must say that the Nexus S super amoled display looks better then the Vibrant super amoled display and, it's not the brightness. I turned the Nexus S screen to the lowest setting and, I turned the Vibrant to the highest setting as a result the Nexus S screen looks alot better. What's you all thoughts on this?...please don't say that the vibrant is a defective product because, this will be my 4'th Vibrant do to this...thanks.
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Every SAMOLED screen has its own characteristics, there are no two SAMOLED screens that are identical, they just have to fall between an upper and lower specification
JD
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Thanks.
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I think that a newer display should come with a change log...lol but, trust me the Nexus S display is indeed a different better screen. I thought that a LCD was a LCD Super Amoled was a Super Amoled, just a different resolution and, size. It would be nice to let a customer know what they are buying. Thanks.
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Really, looking at both displays and back of the boxes checking to see if both are super amoled displays drove me crazy, I knew it was't my eyes. Sucks my Vibrant SUCK!
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I've noticed this as well... that is of you didn't get one with the ugly yellow/grey tint screen. I'm on my 6th sns and this one has the best amoled screen I've ever seen. I went through a few vibrants and ended up with a pretty nice one there too but there's no comparison with the particular nexus s. It even looks better than my buddy's fascinate which has a better screen than any vibrant I've seen or owned. Whites on this phone are awesome and very neutral with barely any tint at all. Even at its lowest brightness setting I don't have any purple or pink on the status bar pull down. Even on my phones that didn't have this exact quality screen still were great looking amoleds.
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I had 3 NS prior to the one I have now. The first one had a piss yellow screen, the second one had a off purple hue and the third had wifi issues....
The forth one is perfect in every way
JD
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I switched from the Sprint Epic to the Nexus S and i have to agree, my epics screen just didn't look as good as the nexus one did. On the epic i would normally set the brightness to halfway and it looked decent but on my nexus i leave it on auto and regardless of where i am it looks amazing. I don't know why but it does look better

So I take it, Super Amoled's are not all the same. I think they don't tell us this because of business reasons. Besides, I think it would be cool to know the name of my Nexus S screen cause I know for a fact the Nexus S has the best Amoled display out there.
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jalyn02 said:
So I take it, Super Amoled's are not all the same. I think they don't tell us this because of business reasons. Besides, I think it would be cool to know the name of my Nexus S screen cause I know for a fact the Nexus S has the best Amoled display out there.
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My guess is that they use the same basic technology but given the time between release dates some new parts or processes may have gone into the making of the Nexus S screens. The Nexus S definitely has a Super Active-Matrix Organic Light Emitting Diode (SAMOLED) but just looks slightly better. Heck it might even be due to the Contour Display (as it is called), who knows?

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My guess is that they use the same basic technology but given the time between release dates some new parts or processes may have gone into the making of the Nexus S screens. The Nexus S definitely has a Super Active-Matrix Organic Light Emitting Diode (SAMOLED) but just looks slightly better. Heck it might even be due to the Contour Display (as it is called), who knows?
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Contour Display is just what I was about to say but, you beat me to it. Thanks Guy's I thought this would be a good post and it was. Again thanks.
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My Vibrant's screen looks a million times better than my Nexus. I'm on my second Nexus, both of them were bad, and so was the demo in the store. I'd rather have the blue tinge on the Vibrant over either screen I have seen on the Nexus.

j0hnZ said:
My Vibrant's screen looks a million times better than my Nexus. I'm on my second Nexus, both of them were bad, and so was the demo in the store. I'd rather have the blue tinge on the Vibrant over either screen I have seen on the Nexus.
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sorry but if that's the case you need to return your ns again

vdub804 said:
sorry but if that's the case you need to return your ns again
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I also dabble in mastering the obvious on occasion.

its funny when it comes to screen on the nexus S, we find almost the same people replying " including me "
i think we reached a points where we are the " experts " of the screens now.
**** the phone. lets test screens. more fun
i think i would be a great quality control employee if this keeps up ^_^

I've been talking to supercurio about the screen issues, he says that they are fixable and that the contrast and gamma settings aren't correct. This totally makes sense to me, but I'm waiting to hear back on whether it will be included in his program or if this is a setting somewhere where I can adjust it.

j0hnZ said:
I've been talking to supercurio about the screen issues, he says that they are fixable and that the contrast and gamma settings aren't correct. This totally makes sense to me, but I'm waiting to hear back on whether it will be included in his program or if this is a setting somewhere where I can adjust it.
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That would be awesome, Keep me updated.
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AAAAAaaaaaargh! Dam u LCD Manufacturers!

Well I just got my Nexus 4 yesterday and immediately noticed that the lower part (about third) of the screen was very slightly more yellow, the whole right edge slightly more dark and overall the screen looked a bit washed out compared to other Nexus 4's I've seen in shops on display.
This is a long long running problem with LCD screens that the manufacturers probably don't really care about because most people sadly (for the rest of us) don't care enough about screen uniformity when using their phone to reject it and send it back for replacement or refund when they get a dud. It's a *ginormous* pain in the crank shaft for me because I just think it's slipshod manufacturing reinforced by people who just "make do". Anyway..... I digest....
I've already contacted Google Play to request a replacement to be sent out and will keep doing so until I a) Get a phone with acceptable uniformity i.e. uniform whites on web pages, google books, uniform solid colours elsewhere or b) I give up trying if I don't get an acceptable replacement.
I know it's possible to make LCD screens with great quality and uniformity because Apple do it and the HTC One X has one of the best screens I've ever seen. These two have, as far as I've seen also had the same issues. It seems like a *very* widespread issue and an odd one at that.
So what's the reason? Why is it happening? How can we, the consumer, make it stahp!

alsheron said:
Well I just got my Nexus 4 yesterday and immediately noticed that the lower part (about third) of the screen was very slightly more yellow, the whole right edge slightly more dark and overall the screen looked a bit washed out compared to other Nexus 4's I've seen in shops on display.
This is a long long running problem with LCD screens that the manufacturers probably don't really care about because most people sadly (for the rest of us) don't care enough about screen uniformity when using their phone to reject it and send it back for replacement or refund when they get a dud. It's a *ginormous* pain in the crank shaft for me because I just think it's slipshod manufacturing reinforced by people who just "make do". Anyway..... I digest....
I've already contacted Google Play to request a replacement to be sent out and will keep doing so until I a) Get a phone with acceptable uniformity i.e. uniform whites on web pages, google books, uniform solid colours elsewhere or b) I give up trying if I don't get an acceptable replacement.
I know it's possible to make LCD screens with great quality and uniformity because Apple do it and the HTC One X has one of the best screens I've ever seen. These two have, as far as I've seen also had the same issues. It seems like a *very* widespread issue and an odd one at that.
So what's the reason? Why is it happening? How can we, the consumer, make it stahp!
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tbh thats a characteristic of IPS panels. You will get some form of light bleed pretty much on all IPS panels. If you don't want that, then go with a phone that has an OLED display.

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tbh thats a characteristic of IPS panels. You will get some form of light bleed pretty much on all IPS panels. If you don't want that, then go with a phone that has an OLED display.
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I'm coming from Galaxy S1 and that's 2 years old. It's starting to burn in quite noticeably now. The HTC One X IPS screens in shops now (I've checked quite a lot in different places) are very very good and very uniform now.
Anyone know who manufactures the HTC One X screens?

alsheron said:
I'm coming from Galaxy S1 and that's 2 years old. It's starting to burn in quite noticeably now. The HTC One X IPS screens in shops now (I've checked quite a lot in different places) are very very good and very uniform now.
Anyone know who manufactures the HTC One X screens?
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Like I said, you can't escape it for the most part. All the phones that you see are probably at reduced brightness settings in a well lit area. Go into a pitch black area and turn the brightness to 100%, you will see either IPS glow or some sort of bleed. I've owned a couple of Dell Ultrasharp monitors and all of them have had either a little bit of bleed or IPS glow.

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Like I said, you can't escape it for the most part. All the phones that you see are probably at reduced brightness settings in a well lit area. Go into a pitch black area and turn the brightness to 100%, you will see either IPS glow or some sort of bleed. I've owned a couple of Dell Ultrasharp monitors and all of them have had either a little bit of bleed or IPS glow.
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Sitting right in front of a dell utrasharp, yep, true! But it doesn't bother me! Same for the n4.

I have the same "problem." I don't care.
I'm not sure understand peoples need to spend all that time and energy repeatedly RMA-ing their phone. Unless its significantly hindering the use of the device; deal with it.
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If apple can keep some uniformity amongst it's iphone displays over manf. can (and probably do) so I voted "they don't care".
That being said my n4 has been great with minimal light bleed, same as my IPS monitors.

I voted dont no, dont care.
I don't care either. But Im color blind.

R: AAAAAaaaaaargh! Dam u LCD Manufacturers!
alsheron said:
I'm coming from Galaxy S1 and that's 2 years old. It's starting to burn in quite noticeably now. The HTC One X IPS screens in shops now (I've checked quite a lot in different places) are very very good and very uniform now.
Anyone know who manufactures the HTC One X screens?
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Sony screen
Inviato dal mio LG-P920

My n4 is also yellower on the bottom half. I wouldn't fuss over that..its like that with every N4. If you want a perfect phone pay more and get an iPhone
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Actually mine is getting better
I dont know why
There are used to be 2 thumb sized yellowished spots at the bottom screen
Still show up sometimes when the device is hot
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El Daddy said:
I have the same "problem." I don't care.
I'm not sure understand peoples need to spend all that time and energy repeatedly RMA-ing their phone. Unless its significantly hindering the use of the device; deal with it.
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Well it's that attitude that's causing the manufacturers to make phones with a "don't really care" attitude towards the quality of the display. What's hard to understand? If I want to view a white page reading books or surfing in Chrome I want all of the screen to be "white" not the top two thirds white and the bottom third slightly brighter and noticeably tinted "yellow". These phones *are* their screens - surely the thing that you're using MOST on the phone and interacting with needs to do it's job properly and display uniform colours and uniform brightness. I understand that manufacturing panels to this specification takes possibly more effort but the reason they don't seem to bother seems to be down to people just accepting any old crap that they give us. Which is your choice - but not mine and not a lot of other peoples' choice either. You might not agree but surely you can "understand"?

I notice and care.. but I have forced myself to not care any more

proving Oled (amoled brand name) superior unlike what your told by mainstream media!

Your told, lcd is brighter in sunlight which is the main reason your tokd Lcd is superior or at least thay say amoled is inferior. Wrong,its because if default settings by the makers. Once rooted with proper kernel(almost every device has em) you can do with amoled what you cant do with lcd. Double the color multipliers from android default of 200 to 400. I use in order of RGB, 320/320/400 to achieve perfect white and black. Also the battery myth,lcd drains less. Thats bullcrap. Amiled black pixel achives pure black because its actually OFF. that is main reason it uses less power than lcd. Instead if going on and on I will just show u proof. I will show you picture of my LGOG(sprint optimus g) and my even aging gnex side by side in sunlight with my shadow on half the screens to show its actual sunny lol. A pic says a lot more than my Bloveating. Im using my sgs4 to post this and used its awesome camera tontake the pic if pic does not show in op I will post in first post. Have a great day peeps. Your friendly neighborhood noobness fighter.Crwolv

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Crwolv said:
Your told, lcd is brighter in sunlight which is the main reason your tokd Lcd is superior or at least thay say amoled is inferior. Wrong,its because if default settings by the makers. Once rooted with proper kernel(almost every device has em) you can do with amoled what you cant do with lcd. Double the color multipliers from android default of 200 to 400. I use in order of RGB, 320/320/400 to achieve perfect white and black. Also the battery myth,lcd drains less. Thats bullcrap. Amiled black pixel achives pure black because its actually OFF. that is main reason it uses less power than lcd. Instead if going on and on I will just show u proof. I will show you picture of my LGOG(sprint optimus g) and my even aging gnex side by side in sunlight with my shadow on half the screens to show its actual sunny lol. A pic says a lot more than my Bloveating. Im using my sgs4 to post this and used its awesome camera tontake the pic if pic does not show in op I will post in first post. Have a great day peeps. Your friendly neighborhood noobness fighter.Crwolv
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Pics wouldn't attach.must be because of using phone

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2 different pic styles,img and jpeg clearly shows that even with a shattered and pentile matrix amoled screen its brighter in the sunlight. Even did my shadow in it so no one would say....sun wasnt out lmao. Sorry naysayers proof is in the pudding and the gooey pudding is right in front of your face. Proper kernel with amoled is brighter and better battery saver than lcd. Lcd is backlit anyway and most high end phones will use it in the future because it can be bended and manipulated and LCD can't because it is backlit. Only low end phones will be lcd in the future.

I agree with what you've said (I use Samsung phones primarily), but it is true that when displaying white, it uses 3x as much power as an LCD. On mostly black, you're correct; very little power draw.

Tell me about AMOLED burn-in. Since you are increasing the luminosity, I would suspect that burn-in would be faster?

Keeping my eye out for this one...very interesting.
Do you guys mind if I ask what this "burn-in" is and how to fo about it?
Very interesting indeed.
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eggymustdie said:
Keeping my eye out for this one...very interesting.
Do you guys mind if I ask what this "burn-in" is and how to fo about it?
Very interesting indeed.
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Similar to plasma screen televisions, if you leave an image on the screen for a long time (much more than average), you'll see remnants of it permanently. However, if it's anything like televisions, you can fix it by displaying a white image on the screen (entirely white) for a few hours. I've never had this happen to me and ive owned almost all major Samsung phones. Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S II, Galaxy S III, Note 2, and now S4.
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I see...so is it a bad thing?
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eggymustdie said:
I see...so is it a bad thing?
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Burn in? Well yes. You're going to see the ghost of whatever burned in, everywhere.
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Woah. Kinda like on my old phones...so that's what's called...wow.
Is there anyway to fix this?
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Yes burn in can occur on older like the gnex. Newer amoled is less likely but always set time out of 2 min when color multipliers are set to max. Best settings,for pure white is ,320,320,400 rgb color multipliers. Sorry should have talked about burn in,my apologies .

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Crwolv said:
Yes burn in can occur on older like the gnex. Newer amoled is less likely but always set timperiod., just remember out of 2 min when color miltipliers are set to max. Best settings,for pure white is ,320,320,400 rgb color multipliers. Sorry should have talked about burn in,my apologies .
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Just remember in all aspects except maybe battery power AMOLED is superior if your rooted and have a proper kernel (there there look for em) amoled is superior and infinitely more controable then LCD, period. Sorry naysayers look at proof in sunlight

tapiov said:
Tell me about AMOLED burn-in. Since you are increasing the luminosity, I would suspect that burn-in would be faster?
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Oh yes, burn in way faster. Keep at least older amoled/oled screens at 2 min or less

Product F(RED) said:
I agree with what you've said (I use Samsung phones primarily), but it is true that when displaying white, it uses 3x as much power as an LCD. On mostly black, you're correct; very little power draw.
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black pixel is actually zero power draw the pixel is off

So how do you get this better color might I ask? You say proper kernel...any way to get it on an S3? Specifically an SGHT999?

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black pixel is actually zero power draw the pixel is off
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I said mostly black. On complete black, you're right. But you're not going to be using an app that's entirely, 100% black, are you?
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Product F(RED) said:
I said mostly black. On complete black, you're right. But you're not going to be using an app that's entirely, 100% black, are you?
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Actually I use an apk that uses complete black for the whole screen and I use it quite often!!! ou know what it is, my wallpaper. Lol

Crwolv said:
Actually I use an apk that uses complete black for the whole screen and I use it quite often!!! ou know what it is, my wallpaper. Lol
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So you have no icons at all on the screen and you hide your status bar?
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