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Has anyone taken a look at the new security enhancements Google has put into 4.4? It seems to me that this could go either way. While added security seems like a plus for things like malware, etc, it also could hinder development and openness as well. If device is locked before upgrading, it would seem that achieving several mods, even root, will become pretty arduous, if not next to impossible tasks. This seems to go against HTC's openness with the unlocking of bootloaders, though, so I wonder how they will handle it? I suppose in the meantime, end users should achieve s-off and unlock now before the update gets here. Any thoughts?
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...gn=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)
According to this, this will only affect devices from carriers that do not allow bootloaders to be unlocked (verizon) if I understood it right.
It will not affect international users as we have no need of root exploits seeing as HTC provide a boot loader unlock tool.
It will affect Verizon users if Verizon continue to lock down bootloaders though.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...gn=Feed:+xda-developers/ShsH+(xda-developers)
According to this, this will only affect devices from carriers that do not allow bootloaders to be unlocked (verizon) if I understood it right.
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Everyone seems to forget that AT&T is now doing the same thing. So Its not just Verizon anymore.
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Everyone seems to forget that AT&T is now doing the same thing. So Its not just Verizon anymore.
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I'm pretty sure it's the other way around..att use to do it and now they allow it.
AT&T and bootloaders
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I'm pretty sure it's the other way around..att use to do it and now they allow it.
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This is just one of the articles about AT&T and there stand on Unlocked Bootloaders.http://androidandme.com/2013/08/car...upport-unlocked-bootloaders-once-and-for-all/
I can understand why they would want to lock down a subsidized device. Guess I'll be purchasing unlocked/unlock-able devices at full price from manufacturers in the future.
If you want to mod your phone, vote with your wallet and switch to a carrier that actually cares about their customers.
The argument about buying an unlocked phone is moot on Verizon because of the CDMA network for voice.
This is all going to come to a head at some point... Especially with Verizon.
It is going to be a huge deal with HTC though in terms of getting S-OFF.....
I am still concerned that 4.4 may interfere with phones already rooted and running custom ROMs.
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It is going to be a huge deal with HTC though in terms of getting S-OFF.....
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How so? The security makes exploiting the kernel and boot loader for root harder but we can already flash custom kernels, recovery and root when S-ON.
S-OFF isn't contained in the boot loader partition, like MID, tampered flag and locked flag etc it has its own partition.
As exploits are found HTC will obviously patch them which will make S-OFF harder but I'm not sure that increased boot loader security will have an impact on S-OFF.
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The more I look at it, if the device is unlocked and off prior to the upgrade, it should be fine, regardless of carrier. The obvious exception would be Verizon, but at least it won't be surprising to any of their customers. It's nothing new for them. I foresee an uptick in sales of international and dev edition Android phones in the future, though.
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I am still concerned that 4.4 may interfere with phones already rooted and running custom ROMs.
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If your worried about it interfering with rooted devices I'd advise u to just wait for the devs to build 4.4 roms to flash. Roms will be available right after the OTA drops as usual so I would play it safe if you're worried. At lease Intel its known whether or not this is going to be an issue.
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If your worried about it interfering with rooted devices I'd advise u to just wait for the devs to build 4.4 roms to flash. Roms will be available right after the OTA drops as usual so I would play it safe if you're worried. At lease Intel its known whether or not this is going to be an issue.
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The N5 already can be rooted. I'd say we don't have much to worry about on that front.
So as the interwebz suggest, 4.4.1 is right around the corner for the Nexus 5/GPE devices. Considering the fact that the VZW variant of the Moto X was on the bleeding edge of the Kit Kat OTA and got it before even the Nexus 4, do you think this is a trend that will continue? I'm interested to see what bug fixes there are and if the promised camera improvements will be aimed specifically at the Nexus 5, or perhaps broader improvements to the software. What do you guys think?
I don't think 4.4.1 will aim other devices. It will include fixes for Nexus 5 only IMO.
I'm worried about the next update. What if we can't get root?
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I'm worried about the next update. What if we can't get root?
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Then you buy a developer's edition.
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I'm worried about the next update. What if we can't get root?
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This is one big reason I went for the Dev Edition... I'm too much of a tinkerer to fret over such unknowns. I mean it always comes eventually, but with Dev Editions you get instant gratification! Just need to flash stock recovery, accept the OTA, reflash custom recovery, re-root. BAM, done.
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I'm worried about the next update. What if we can't get root?
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I've been using an Android phone since 2.1.
By my quick count on Wikipedia, there have been 27 versions (including minor updates) of Android since 2.1.
I'm not aware of any Android version that was discovered to be unrootable.
I suspect you don't have to be too worried...
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Buy me one? I don't have that kind of money.
Furthermore, I have a Motomaker custom. I don't want to lose that.
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This one reason I went for the Dev Edition... I'm too much of a tinkerer to fret over such unknowns. I mean it always comes eventually, but with Dev Editions you get instant gratification!
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I beat you by about 5 sec. But really, that's what this game has come to. If you want easy root and possibly romming, then dev editions are going to be the only way to go. Right now, I think moto is making that easier for us to do.
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I've been using an Android phone since 2.1.
By my quick count on Wikipedia, there have been 27 versions (including minor updates) of Android since 2.1.
I'm not aware of any Android version that was discovered to be unrootable.
I suspect you don't have to be too worried...
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I suspect you need to do more reading. Check up on what security features KitKat brought to our MotoXs.
Edit: I'm not so much worried about If you can root it, I'm worried about having it published. Jcase only rooted 4.4 because we were able to downgrade the bootloader. If that wasn't possible, I still don't think there would be root for the MotoX (non-dev).
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Buy me one? I don't have that kind of money.
Furthermore, I have a Motomaker custom. I don't want to lose that.
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You simply sell your subsidized phone and buy a dev edition. Can't help you about the moto maker though.
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I suspect you need to do more reading. Check up on what security features KitKat brought to our MotoXs.
Edit: I'm not so much worried about If you can root it, I'm worried about having it published. Jcase only rooted 4.4 because we were able to downgrade the bootloader. If that wasn't possible, I still don't think there would be root for the MotoX (non-dev).
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I suspect I've read plenty about KitKat. I know about the security features.
Jcase rooted 4.4 using the downgrade because an existing vulnerability was available. He explicitly stated that there was another vulnerability available and he just wasn't going to develop for it/reveal it. Vulnerabilities are always discovered.
What, you think Apple hasn't been trying to quash rooting for years now?
I'm just saying, I've been in IT for a long time. Exploits are discovered, workarounds are created. Root access is gained and life moves on.
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I suspect I've read plenty about KitKat. I know about the security features.
Jcase rooted 4.4 using the downgrade because an existing vulnerability was available. He explicitly stated that there was another vulnerability available and he just wasn't going to develop for it/reveal it. Vulnerabilities are always discovered.
What, you think Apple hasn't been trying to quash rooting for years now?
I'm just saying, I've been in IT for a long time. Exploits are discovered, workarounds are created. Root access is gained and life moves on.
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Of course, but what if it's never published? I'm not worried about the actual exploits. There will always be exploits. I'm only concerned with an awesome dev to publish it. Who else is working on the MotoX? So far, it seems like Hashcode and Jcase. If Jcase decides not to publish... Then what?
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Of course, but what if it's never published? I'm not worried about the actual exploits. There will always be exploits. I'm only concerned with an awesome dev to publish it. Who else is working on the MotoX? So far, it seems like Hashcode and Jcase. If Jcase decides not to publish... Then what?
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Well, there are never guarantees, of course... but given that virtually every version of Android on every phone attains root eventually, I'm just going to have some faith!
I think people may be putting too much faith in what devs can do based on what has been done.
4.4 has the potential to change things big time. dm-verity combined with a locked bootloader is going to be a beast to crack. Once a device ships from the factory with it enabled and a locked bootloader, I would not be expecting root on it anytime soon. Then you will have people asking why don't we just crack the key like they were when the GS3 came out. (answer: you will never ever crack the key. --Math)
As for using the idea that Apple has tried and never got it to stick, I'd say they haven't tried this hard.
Just as a sidenote, I don't think the SELinux and dm-verity additions in android are either bad or targeted at the modders out there. These are excellent steps in securing the OS, and shows that Google is serious about making devices trustworthy. The work they did on dm-verity is just great stuff. This is good for people who don't care about modifying their device and those who only buy devices with unlocked bootloaders, but not so good for people who have a locked bootloader, and are on either ATT or VZW, both of whom really don't want you to modify your device.
TL;DR - Buy a device with an unlocked bootloader, don't count on anything, past success is not indicative of future success.
I hope 4.4.1 brings an even better ART this time.
Seems like this update is pretty specific to the Nexus 5 as a camera fix. Not sure the Moto X will even see it.
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Seems like this update is pretty specific to the Nexus 5 as a camera fix. Not sure the Moto X will even see it.
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Won't really know until the 4.4.1 source is published. Could be a lot of other stuff on the back-end that was updated/fixed that wouldn't really show up in a major changelog.
Nexus 4 received the update today too so it isn't nexus 5 specific.
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Won't really know until the 4.4.1 source is published. Could be a lot of other stuff on the back-end that was updated/fixed that wouldn't really show up in a major changelog.
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Not only the N4 but the Nexus 7 LTE. SO... probably more going on than just camera
So i receive many questions about this via PM and other topics as i have a good contact with ZTE so i thought I'd create one where you guys can post your comments.
Ive raised this topic to them and they are discussing it. I will keep this main post updated with what i hear.
Update 05/01/17
Official Bootloader Unlock is coming. It was delayed through there not being a great process to release it and the various updates the ZTE have provided to fix bugs. I am still on a root version of b03 and there is a stock b09 version currently. However, the root version i was given is great and works flawlessly. Ive been promised that another root release is coming very soon and will become official.
Potential EU Bootloader Unlock - Needs testers! Thanks @DrakenFX:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/guide-how-to-unlock-bootloader-stay-t3461165
Why did USA get a bootloader unlock?
> The phone has been released to the open market there and under USA law they can remove the warranty if a bootloader is requested. From what i have read/understand in EU they have to commit to their warranty no matter what.
> It was all decided hastily internally within the USA team without contacting the worldwide team, neither had a clue of what each other was doing, but due to my efforts it looks like they are communicating.
> ZTE promise they dont want to discriminate.
What is happening with the EU?
It is coming. You wont lose warranty.
i got my Axon 7 today in germany from Saturn and in the dev menu i had the option for OEM Bootloader unlock, i thought european weren't supposed to have that?
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Starvirus said:
i got my Axon 7 today in germany from Saturn and in the dev menu i had the option for OEM Bootloader unlock, i thought european weren't supposed to have that?
Best Regards
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It's on all phones. It doesn't do anything.
Starvirus said:
i got my Axon 7 today in germany from Saturn and in the dev menu i had the option for OEM Bootloader unlock, i thought european weren't supposed to have that?
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It's on all phones. It doesn't do anything.
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Even doesn't do anything on his own when enable, is needed when official bootloader unlock arrive.
thought a fastboot oem unlock would suffice, but didn't try it yet.
But that they kept that option there is just pure torture
What ZTE should realize regarding the bootloader unlock is that they have 2 options to build trust with the customers, especially considering last year's Axon has not received Marshmallow and will not receive Marshmallow (at some point customer service said it would, which makes the whole thing even worse).
Either let people unlock the bootloader and provide long term software support through the dev community or promise updates for at least 2 years. Buying what is essentially a flagship device (and *the* flagship of ZTE) and then possibly not receiving anything beyond Nougat (which I expect them to deliver at the very least because of Daydream) would be a huge letdown. I can accept that with <200€ phones, whose hardware probably doesn't really hold up anyways after 2 years, but I expect more from a 400€ phone that is the top of the line from that brand. This holds true especially considering that the other two big competitors in the same price range (the OP3 and the Honor 8) do provide at least one of those assurances. So far, the Axon 7 does not and that's worrisome given both some of the flaws in the current software (notification bell, video playback issues etc) and their own history with last year's Axon.
Bad news but it is starting to look unlikely in Europe that we will get a bootloader unlock. They will try to give us an official confirmation via social media soon.
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Bad news but it is starting to look unlikely in Europe that we will get a bootloader unlock. They will try to give us an official confirmation via social media soon.
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tbf, idc if they fix the querks of MiFavour and we still got Root
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Bad news but it is starting to look unlikely in Europe that we will get a bootloader unlock. They will try to give us an official confirmation via social media soon.
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that's realy sad, will have to start looking for another phone and send the axon7 back
Thats a deal breaker..
Can't we get any solutions for the europe phones from the A2017U unlock? Are they so different?
Really bad news. I hope they will re-think this decision
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recieved mine today and right after unpacking i saw this thread with the bad news.
if there's no new info about the bootloader untill the end of next week it's gonna get returned.
not gonna gamble on someone maaayyybe finding an exploit in a year...
Oh well, they better rethink this or OP3 it is. Been on the edge the whole time. But wanted to give it a go due to the cool hardware. I can still cancel that order on the Axon and will probably do that as soon as this get official.
Please help me.
We have the US version with the 20B update from which you can unlock your boot loader with the 20B_boot update.
One guy has flashed the b02 version for the Europe devices on his A2017U US phone. Correct?
Can't we flash the 20B version to our Europe A2017G phones and unlock them with the 20b_boot version?
Can't we check which files and how the boot update changed the boot loader and do it some way manually on our phones?
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Can't we check which files and how the boot update changed the boot loader and do it some way manually on our phones?
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Not really -- the OTAs are block level patches, not file patches. Someone would have to dump and compare the partitions before and after. The system image would probably be easy, fastboot is provided as a full image, but for the other images (boot and recovery), you'd have to dive into the assembly and/or tear apart the kernel.
I'm actually kinda glad they decided to **** europe over with the bootloader. I was on the fence whether to buy the P8 Plus or wait for the Axon 7.
Now I don't have to worry about this anymore, ZTE made the decision so much easier
The P8 has the better battery and camera anyhow. Cheers to everybody
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I'm actually kinda glad they decided to **** europe over with the bootloader. I was on the fence whether to buy the P8 Plus or wait for the Axon 7.
Now I don't have to worry about this anymore, ZTE made the decision so much easier
The P8 has the better battery and camera anyhow. Cheers to everybody
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Thats your choice.
The Axon 7 has better screen and sound anyhow which matters to me. Pretty solid phone for the price even without an unlocked bootloader. Theres already root so cant really complain, what do you expect for a £360 phone!
They didnt really **** europe with the bootloader, it was never guaranteed or announced. But glad your decision is made easier.
The 3 year warranty with the axon 7 was too good to pass on
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Thats your choice.
The Axon 7 has better screen and sound anyhow which matters to me. Pretty solid phone for the price even without an unlocked bootloader. Theres already root so cant really complain, what do you expect for a £360 phone!
They didnt really **** europe with the bootloader, it was never guaranteed or announced. But glad your decision is made easier.
The 3 year warranty with the axon 7 was too good to pass on
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Giving one group a choice and deny this choice to another group, that's ***ing one group over IMHO
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Thats your choice.
The Axon 7 has better screen and sound anyhow which matters to me. Pretty solid phone for the price even without an unlocked bootloader. Theres already root so cant really complain, what do you expect for a £360 phone!
They didnt really **** europe with the bootloader, it was never guaranteed or announced. But glad your decision is made easier.
The 3 year warranty with the axon 7 was too good to pass on
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All valid points. But no unlocked bootloader = no custom roms = no buy, simple as that.
Especially with a company with a bad or at very least doubtful reputation to provide software updates for a reasonably long/adequate period.
But as you say, that's my choice. And from what I can tell many others will make the same choice. Owning an Android is all about freedom of choice and customization, especially for people her on XDA (obviously). I do like the phone but I don't necessarily like the software on it, or at least not all of it.
I would go for the One+ 3, but no SD card slot = no buy.
I have owned enough android phones to know what I consider essential features and I buy my phones accordingly.
And I actually consider a 1440p screen on a phone a slight negative due to increased power consumption while I gain nothing with higher pixel density (not interested in using mobile VR).
Sound is better, true, but I listen exclusively with headphones so nice speakers are a bonus. My Bluetooth speaker still has better sound
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Giving one group a choice and deny this choice to another group, that's ***ing one group over IMHO
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This.
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And I actually consider a 1440p screen on a phone a slight negative due to increased power consumption while I gain nothing with higher pixel density (not interested in using mobile VR).
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I think 1080p is an absolutely fine resolution for 5.5", but 1080p PenTile? Eh. Not quite hitting the mark for me.
Sorry about making a thread I just need quick ask something. I wasn't really looking for a new phone but I jumped on the Pixel deal for $10 a month from best buy. The fact that I can unlock the bootloader got me excited cause there's a lot of development for it.
I haven't received it yet but part of me wonders if I should go with the s7 instead. I like the build better I feel it's mor e durable and it's also waterproof/resistant which the Pixel is not.. I've never really gotten my S5 wet but it's scaring me..
So if I get an s7 and it has whatever the latest build is.. is it rootable as of now?? I'm guessing the bootloader is locked like ever other Verizon phone?? By the time the s5 bootloader was unlocked there weren't many devs left.
Thanks!!
Anyoneee
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If you get one now it'll have marshmallow on it and will be rootable using the engboot method. If you do so be sure to install the fixes and mods available here on xda. I would rather have a pixel personally.
Root method not really good. Bootloader is locked. Not worth rooting on this phone in my opinion. I had a lot of issues even after tweaking and following some guides. This was before the 2 roms were released though i haven't tried those out.
I'm on stock nougat beta also and i love it.
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aholeinthewor1d said:
Sorry about making a thread I just need quick ask something. I wasn't really looking for a new phone but I jumped on the Pixel deal for $10 a month from best buy. The fact that I can unlock the bootloader got me excited cause there's a lot of development for it.
I haven't received it yet but part of me wonders if I should go with the s7 instead. I like the build better I feel it's mor e durable and it's also waterproof/resistant which the Pixel is not.. I've never really gotten my S5 wet but it's scaring me..
So if I get an s7 and it has whatever the latest build is.. is it rootable as of now?? I'm guessing the bootloader is locked like ever other Verizon phone?? By the time the s5 bootloader was unlocked there weren't many devs left.
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I love my S7. I've rooted and unrooted. Currently I've updated it to Nougat with the Update.zip. It's running beautifully!
But I got a Pixel for my wife, and I would trade mine for hers any day of the week.
I've never gotten a phone wet, so that wouldn't be a concern for me.
I had an S7 before getting my Pixel and unfortunately for me I NEED root. The S7 root method is FAR from perfect and it just affects the phones performance and battery life too much so I went with the Pixel instead where I can have root and an unlocked bootloader. The S7 by itself is a great phone, and if I didn't need root I would have kept it but if you are like me and want/need root then I'd keep the Pixel.
Ok so basically I hate 8.1 and want to revert back to 7.1. Only problem is that I think it's impossible with the Amazon variant of the Moto g5 plus. Can someone point me in the right direction??
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Ok so basically I hate 8.1 and want to revert back to 7.1. Only problem is that I think it's impossible with the Amazon variant of the Moto g5 plus. Can someone point me in the right direction??
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Would be interesting why you 'hate' 8.1. What's worse in comparison to 7.0? There are a lot of users that haven't updated for several reasons (like me) and it would be helpful to know what isn't that good or is so bad to hate it? Most users report a similar battery usage so what's it?
If you want to revert you can't go to 7.1 as there was only 7.0 for Potter.
Imho, you have to fastboot flash the latest 7.0 firmware, make a backup of everything before you do so (system,data, persist, EFS etc).
Flash 7.0 firmware, stop the update service and you should be good to go.
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Would be interesting why you 'hate' 8.1. What's worse in comparison to 7.0? There are a lot of users that haven't updated for several reasons (like me) and it would be helpful to know what isn't that good or is so bad to hate it? Most users report a similar battery usage so what's it?
If you want to revert you can't go to 7.1 as there was only 7.0 for Potter.
Imho, you have to fastboot flash the latest 7.0 firmware, make a backup of everything before you do so (system,data, persist, EFS etc).
Flash 7.0 firmware, stop the update service and you should be good to go.
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For me the main issue is with WiFi, it keeps on dropping and its annoying. Would suggest you not to update just yet.
Wolfcity said:
Would be interesting why you 'hate' 8.1. What's worse in comparison to 7.0? There are a lot of users that haven't updated for several reasons (like me) and it would be helpful to know what isn't that good or is so bad to hate it? Most users report a similar battery usage so what's it?
If you want to revert you can't go to 7.1 as there was only 7.0 for Potter.
Imho, you have to fastboot flash the latest 7.0 firmware, make a backup of everything before you do so (system,data, persist, EFS etc).
Flash 7.0 firmware, stop the update service and you should be good to go.
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Removal of the night mode for the most part. No app can do it just as good
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Removal of the night mode for the most part. No app can do it just as good
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This is the single reason I've had it with Motorola. I could not stand this either, and so I unlocked the bootloader and got twrp/magisk ready to flash a new ROM with every feature I want. I'm done with the selective features they provide.
Night mode is actually good for your sleep, yet they give you attentive display to burn your eyes out...rather than a filter to help you at night.
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This is the single reason I've had it with Motorola. I could not stand this either, and so I unlocked the bootloader and got twrp/magisk ready to flash a new ROM with every feature I want. I'm done with the selective features they provide.
Night mode is actually good for your sleep, yet they give you attentive display to burn your eyes out...rather than a filter to help you at night.
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Yeah I think Lenovo messed Moto up. This is gonna be the last Moto phone I ever buy. Luckily there are other mid-range phones with similar specs on the market
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Yeah I think Lenovo messed Moto up. This is gonna be the last Moto phone I ever buy. Luckily there are other mid-range phones with similar specs on the market
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Agreed, 100% man. Honestly the only thing they have going for themselves right now, is the fact that this is one of the best phones for rooting and custom roms. Thankfully there is plenty of support from developers, otherwise we would all be doomed with Moto support.
I'm just kicking myself for waiting this long to begin with, in hopes Moto turned around...LOL
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Agreed, 100% man. Honestly the only thing they have going for themselves right now, is the fact that this is one of the best phones for rooting and custom roms. Thankfully there is plenty of support from developers, otherwise we would all be doomed with Moto support.
I'm just kicking myself for waiting this long to begin with, in hopes Moto turned around...LOL
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Well i was cheap and bought the Amazon variant with the locked bootloader lol so at least you don't have it as bad as me. Next phone I buy has to have an unlocked bootloader, be CDMA and gsm friendly.
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Well i was cheap and bought the Amazon variant with the locked bootloader lol so at least you don't have it as bad as me. Next phone I buy has to have an unlocked bootloader, be CDMA and gsm friendly.
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Just curious, did you every try to unlock your bootloader? I thought they either came up with a different root method, or I thought I even read some people got lucky and were able to unlock it through Moto's website (although that was early on).
But I feel your pain, me being cheap (saving the $50), ordered the fiance the z3 play Amazon variant... I'm very tempted to see what Amazon will charge me to swap it for an unlocked version. I just can't rely on the future with Moto...
On a side note, I wish we could just flash the full unlocked software channel, then take control...via fastboot/adb. Sure would be nice.
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Just curious, did you every try to unlock your bootloader? I thought they either came up with a different root method, or I thought I even read some people got lucky and were able to unlock it through Moto's website (although that was early on).
But I feel your pain, me being cheap (saving the $50), ordered the fiance the z3 play Amazon variant... I'm very tempted to see what Amazon will charge me to swap it for an unlocked version. I just can't rely on the future with Moto...
On a side note, I wish we could just flash the full unlocked software channel, then take control...via fastboot/adb. Sure would be nice.
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Well people said it wouldn't work or worse(bricked device) or didn't even bother. This is the first device I've owned that can't even be rooted lol.