So i receive many questions about this via PM and other topics as i have a good contact with ZTE so i thought I'd create one where you guys can post your comments.
Ive raised this topic to them and they are discussing it. I will keep this main post updated with what i hear.
Update 05/01/17
Official Bootloader Unlock is coming. It was delayed through there not being a great process to release it and the various updates the ZTE have provided to fix bugs. I am still on a root version of b03 and there is a stock b09 version currently. However, the root version i was given is great and works flawlessly. Ive been promised that another root release is coming very soon and will become official.
Potential EU Bootloader Unlock - Needs testers! Thanks @DrakenFX:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/guide-how-to-unlock-bootloader-stay-t3461165
Why did USA get a bootloader unlock?
> The phone has been released to the open market there and under USA law they can remove the warranty if a bootloader is requested. From what i have read/understand in EU they have to commit to their warranty no matter what.
> It was all decided hastily internally within the USA team without contacting the worldwide team, neither had a clue of what each other was doing, but due to my efforts it looks like they are communicating.
> ZTE promise they dont want to discriminate.
What is happening with the EU?
It is coming. You wont lose warranty.
i got my Axon 7 today in germany from Saturn and in the dev menu i had the option for OEM Bootloader unlock, i thought european weren't supposed to have that?
Best Regards
starvirus
Starvirus said:
i got my Axon 7 today in germany from Saturn and in the dev menu i had the option for OEM Bootloader unlock, i thought european weren't supposed to have that?
Best Regards
starvirus
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It's on all phones. It doesn't do anything.
Starvirus said:
i got my Axon 7 today in germany from Saturn and in the dev menu i had the option for OEM Bootloader unlock, i thought european weren't supposed to have that?
Best Regards
starvirus
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It's on all phones. It doesn't do anything.
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Even doesn't do anything on his own when enable, is needed when official bootloader unlock arrive.
thought a fastboot oem unlock would suffice, but didn't try it yet.
But that they kept that option there is just pure torture
What ZTE should realize regarding the bootloader unlock is that they have 2 options to build trust with the customers, especially considering last year's Axon has not received Marshmallow and will not receive Marshmallow (at some point customer service said it would, which makes the whole thing even worse).
Either let people unlock the bootloader and provide long term software support through the dev community or promise updates for at least 2 years. Buying what is essentially a flagship device (and *the* flagship of ZTE) and then possibly not receiving anything beyond Nougat (which I expect them to deliver at the very least because of Daydream) would be a huge letdown. I can accept that with <200€ phones, whose hardware probably doesn't really hold up anyways after 2 years, but I expect more from a 400€ phone that is the top of the line from that brand. This holds true especially considering that the other two big competitors in the same price range (the OP3 and the Honor 8) do provide at least one of those assurances. So far, the Axon 7 does not and that's worrisome given both some of the flaws in the current software (notification bell, video playback issues etc) and their own history with last year's Axon.
Bad news but it is starting to look unlikely in Europe that we will get a bootloader unlock. They will try to give us an official confirmation via social media soon.
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Bad news but it is starting to look unlikely in Europe that we will get a bootloader unlock. They will try to give us an official confirmation via social media soon.
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tbf, idc if they fix the querks of MiFavour and we still got Root
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Bad news but it is starting to look unlikely in Europe that we will get a bootloader unlock. They will try to give us an official confirmation via social media soon.
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that's realy sad, will have to start looking for another phone and send the axon7 back
Thats a deal breaker..
Can't we get any solutions for the europe phones from the A2017U unlock? Are they so different?
Really bad news. I hope they will re-think this decision
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recieved mine today and right after unpacking i saw this thread with the bad news.
if there's no new info about the bootloader untill the end of next week it's gonna get returned.
not gonna gamble on someone maaayyybe finding an exploit in a year...
Oh well, they better rethink this or OP3 it is. Been on the edge the whole time. But wanted to give it a go due to the cool hardware. I can still cancel that order on the Axon and will probably do that as soon as this get official.
Please help me.
We have the US version with the 20B update from which you can unlock your boot loader with the 20B_boot update.
One guy has flashed the b02 version for the Europe devices on his A2017U US phone. Correct?
Can't we flash the 20B version to our Europe A2017G phones and unlock them with the 20b_boot version?
Can't we check which files and how the boot update changed the boot loader and do it some way manually on our phones?
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Can't we check which files and how the boot update changed the boot loader and do it some way manually on our phones?
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Not really -- the OTAs are block level patches, not file patches. Someone would have to dump and compare the partitions before and after. The system image would probably be easy, fastboot is provided as a full image, but for the other images (boot and recovery), you'd have to dive into the assembly and/or tear apart the kernel.
I'm actually kinda glad they decided to **** europe over with the bootloader. I was on the fence whether to buy the P8 Plus or wait for the Axon 7.
Now I don't have to worry about this anymore, ZTE made the decision so much easier
The P8 has the better battery and camera anyhow. Cheers to everybody
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I'm actually kinda glad they decided to **** europe over with the bootloader. I was on the fence whether to buy the P8 Plus or wait for the Axon 7.
Now I don't have to worry about this anymore, ZTE made the decision so much easier
The P8 has the better battery and camera anyhow. Cheers to everybody
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Thats your choice.
The Axon 7 has better screen and sound anyhow which matters to me. Pretty solid phone for the price even without an unlocked bootloader. Theres already root so cant really complain, what do you expect for a £360 phone!
They didnt really **** europe with the bootloader, it was never guaranteed or announced. But glad your decision is made easier.
The 3 year warranty with the axon 7 was too good to pass on
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Thats your choice.
The Axon 7 has better screen and sound anyhow which matters to me. Pretty solid phone for the price even without an unlocked bootloader. Theres already root so cant really complain, what do you expect for a £360 phone!
They didnt really **** europe with the bootloader, it was never guaranteed or announced. But glad your decision is made easier.
The 3 year warranty with the axon 7 was too good to pass on
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Giving one group a choice and deny this choice to another group, that's ***ing one group over IMHO
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Thats your choice.
The Axon 7 has better screen and sound anyhow which matters to me. Pretty solid phone for the price even without an unlocked bootloader. Theres already root so cant really complain, what do you expect for a £360 phone!
They didnt really **** europe with the bootloader, it was never guaranteed or announced. But glad your decision is made easier.
The 3 year warranty with the axon 7 was too good to pass on
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All valid points. But no unlocked bootloader = no custom roms = no buy, simple as that.
Especially with a company with a bad or at very least doubtful reputation to provide software updates for a reasonably long/adequate period.
But as you say, that's my choice. And from what I can tell many others will make the same choice. Owning an Android is all about freedom of choice and customization, especially for people her on XDA (obviously). I do like the phone but I don't necessarily like the software on it, or at least not all of it.
I would go for the One+ 3, but no SD card slot = no buy.
I have owned enough android phones to know what I consider essential features and I buy my phones accordingly.
And I actually consider a 1440p screen on a phone a slight negative due to increased power consumption while I gain nothing with higher pixel density (not interested in using mobile VR).
Sound is better, true, but I listen exclusively with headphones so nice speakers are a bonus. My Bluetooth speaker still has better sound
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Giving one group a choice and deny this choice to another group, that's ***ing one group over IMHO
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This.
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And I actually consider a 1440p screen on a phone a slight negative due to increased power consumption while I gain nothing with higher pixel density (not interested in using mobile VR).
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I think 1080p is an absolutely fine resolution for 5.5", but 1080p PenTile? Eh. Not quite hitting the mark for me.
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hey everyone
I opened this thread to discuss with you the ETA of grace ui to Note5 .
where do you think it will be available according to sammobile they said that it should be available in august august which almost finshed .
will it be available with android N ,what do you think ?
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hey everyone
I opened this thread to discuss with you the ETA of grace ui to Note5 .
where do you think it will be available according to sammobile they said that it should be available in august august which almost finshed .
will it be available with android N ,what do you think ?
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Don't hold your breath...
From my non-rooted AT&T Galaxy Note 5 (N920A)
I'm not holding my breath on seeing N on the note 5 until next year. Even if the Note 7 gets it (i heard a rumor Samsung was talking smack about an N update for it in the first 3 months) i don't know we can count on anything faster than historically demonstrated when it comes to any device NOT the current flagship...
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If you know the history of Samsung, you shouldn't expect anything this year.
Samsung sells the most phones out of any other manufacturer in the US, and somehow is the WORST WHEN it comes to updates. If there's no unlocked bootloader for the note 7 by the time the LG V20 is released, I'll be jumping ship to LG (and getting the nexus 6p or 2016 nexus as my side chick) LG' s are the only ones with a camera close to as good as Samsung's. And they all have unlockable bootloaders. If Samsung didn't start locking down their bootloaders I wouldn't mind the unexcusably horrendous wait times for software updates. They have a superior product for the most part. But they hardly give a craps about the customer. Just my opinion.
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Samsung sells the most phones out of any other manufacturer in the US, and somehow is the WORST WHEN it comes to updates. If there's no unlocked bootloader for the note 7 by the time the LG V20 is released, I'll be jumping ship to LG (and getting the nexus 6p or 2016 nexus as my side chick) LG' s are the only ones with a camera close to as good as Samsung's. And they all have unlockable bootloaders. If Samsung didn't start locking down their bootloaders I wouldn't mind the unexcusably horrendous wait times for software updates. They have a superior product for the most part. But they hardly give a craps about the customer. Just my opinion.
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HAHA, I am sorry but, I must have a read a post like yours everytime a new Galaxy Device is released. I personally am patiently waiting for the update. I like the Note 5. I got mine alittle late in the game since they didnt release it in Europe. I would get the note 7 but, that curve screen is a no go for me. I have the S7 and trying to get a good screen protector for its slightly curved screen is hard to come by.
Anyways, I still think Samsung Flagship are the best among all smartphones and will continue to use their device.
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Samsung sells the most phones out of any other manufacturer in the US, and somehow is the WORST WHEN it comes to updates. If there's no unlocked bootloader for the note 7 by the time the LG V20 is released, I'll be jumping ship to LG (and getting the nexus 6p or 2016 nexus as my side chick) LG' s are the only ones with a camera close to as good as Samsung's. And they all have unlockable bootloaders. If Samsung didn't start locking down their bootloaders I wouldn't mind the unexcusably horrendous wait times for software updates. They have a superior product for the most part. But they hardly give a craps about the customer. Just my opinion.
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I agree with your view, but Samsung might argue it that they care MORE for their customers and thus have locked the devices - to save the ignorant public from themselves- since most folks only know enough to come here, create a new login (since they forgot the old one made since the last device they rooted [or bricked]), then search for rooting instructions until they find something layman enough to follow, and finally root (or brick) their device smh lol i don't agree with that view but i can sooooooo hear some Samsung PR pencil pusher explaining it smh
"We've locked your million dollar device because we love you and want you secure......NOT because we want to shove SamsungPay down your throats!"
Kill me now smh lol
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Rx8Driver said:
I agree with your view, but Samsung might argue it that they care MORE for their customers and thus have locked the devices - to save the ignorant public from themselves- since most folks only know enough to come here, create a new login (since they forgot the old one made since the last device they rooted [or bricked]), then search for rooting instructions until they find something layman enough to follow, and finally root (or brick) their device smh lol i don't agree with that view but i can sooooooo hear some Samsung PR pencil pusher explaining it smh
"We've locked your million dollar device because we love you and want you secure......NOT because we want to shove SamsungPay down your throats!"
Kill me now smh lol
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I agree. But at the same time, they could just go the HTC route. You request unlock keys from Samsung and agree to certain terms and conditions for the unlock. I'd gladly give up Samsung pay and Android pay for root. This dictatorship bull crap is ridiculous. Smh lol
The Honor 8 has been out for about 10 months now and can now be purchased for $299 from the Honor website. So let's see how this phone holds up and if it's still worth the money.
Updates
The Honor 8 was early to the Nougat scene and has been updated regularly. The stock firmware is currently on Android 7.0 with EMUI 5.0. This has the Honor 8 easily keeping up with its competitors when it comes to updates.
Development
There are several regularly updated ROMs for the Honor 8 that will bring you up to Android 7.1.2. This phone can be rooted with SuperSU while running nougat, and the bootloader can be unlocked easily. So as far as development goes, the community has not let us down.
Specs
Seeing as how the Honor 8 is now a $300 phone, the specs hold up just fine and sometimes easily surpass other phones in this price range. The 4GB of RAM is what most flagship phones are launching with today. The 1080p screen is still plenty usable with no complaints from me. The camera has aged well, still being a lot of fun to use with all of the camera modes on this device. The Hisilicon Kirin 950 processor keeps this phone running plenty fast.
Durability
Who else cracked the back of their phone? Other than that, it's still in once piece. Parts are easy to find on ebay and they're very cheap. This is something that I usually look at when buying a new phone.
Accessories
There were never really a great selection of cases to choose from for the Honor 8. Seems there's still a very slim selection or low quality cases for this device.
Overall this phone holds up nicely. I'd say if it were $400 it would be too expensive. $299 seems like a really fair price for this phone to be going at right now. You can usually find it even lower than that on some other websites.
Just give us EMUI 5 KERNEL source code and we'll be happy customers
I'm afraid you'll find many that would argue that development has NOT been great with this device. Still a great phone though...
How much did Honor pay you for this post?
Look at all the threads saying "Huge battery drain after upgrading to EMUI 5." And you'll know where Huawei screw up.
@morpheus302 +1
everyone complain about bad battery life after upgrading to A7. Update policy I call it joke, there are a lot of users who still doesn't still received update to A7.
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How much did Honor pay you for this post?
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At the risk of piling on to an innocent person, I too thought the OP looked like a press release from Huawei. Interestingly enough, I made a similar post about how the Honor 8 needs a better reputation just a few hours earlier in this same forum. So maybe I'm getting what I asked for? :victory:
Imho the Honor 8 is not a bad phone hardware wise, It's just seems like they spend more on PR than actual development and updates. His statement about updates is laughable at best.
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@morpheus302 +1
everyone complain about bad battery life after upgrading to A7. Update policy I call it joke, there are a lot of users who still doesn't still received update to A7.
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You and others said for my posts that its spam
Well my friend
How often are you going to say the same in so many different threads
"Many users did not get update to noughat 7"
LoOoL
I said couse of some of you not to post again but this is just funny how often you said it
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Just give us EMUI 5 KERNEL source code and we'll be happy customers
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And then? Don't we need the Kirin Sources aswell for drivers and stuff?
No update to Android O for Honor 8 according to this: https://www.google.bg/amp/s/theleaker.com/android-o-8-0-update-smartphones-list/amp/
If this is true, i am pretty sure that Huawei are idiots!
See the link correctly https://theleaker.com/android-o-8-0-update-smartphones-list You will find out in comments that they have only included the devices which will get the update for sure, I also don't think that Honor 8 will get the update. But don;t know maybe they will seed an update.
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No update to Android O for Honor 8 according to this: https://www.google.bg/amp/s/theleaker.com/android-o-8-0-update-smartphones-list/amp/
If this is true, i am pretty sure that Huawei are idiots!
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That's someone's opinion but I doubt it's Huawei's official opinion. I'll wait till they announce their intentions.
That will blow if the honor 8 doesn't get Android O. I got another one on sale and have high hopes for this device
Okay, I broke the back glass. Paid $40 to get it repaired.
About the software updates, the US version is doing poorly. Security patches are not delivered monthly. We stayed at a very early patch for a very long time. About the O update, this device should get it. They should at least provide two major Android updates. One was Nougat and the next has to be O.
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Okay, I broke the back glass. Paid $40 to get it repaired.
About the software updates, the US version is doing poorly. Security patches are not delivered monthly. We stayed at a very early patch for a very long time. About the O update, this device should get it. They should at least provide two major Android updates. One was Nougat and the next has to be O.
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Only this community of phone nerds cares about monthly security patches. There isn't a company outside of Google that can realistically maintain that level of software support for their entire device portfolio. 2 major OS updates is the most we should realistically expect from Honor or any company. Anything else on top of that is just icing on the cake.
My girlfriend's Huwei P8 receives security patches every two months at least, one just received some days ago with July security patches. So i don't understand why we are not getting them...however, i agree with PuffDaddy_d. I would prefer to have Android O instead monthly security updates
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How I told before p8lite 2 days a go receive July security patches
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P8 have Nougat?
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I'm pretty sure you know it haven't it. Don't have to be ironic, just understand what i mean to say. Having Nougat doean't mean delay in security patch updatea, but if you're ok with this, perfect. However i told i don't care about them too much.
does anybody regret getting the honor 8? i'm debating between it and the pixel (for 2x the price).
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does anybody regret getting the honor 8? i'm debating between it and the pixel (for 2x the price).
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OP5 is currently the sweet spot.
Sorry Guys...
If you were hoping to get updated to EMUI / OREO 8.0 in Quarter One...
Like Huawei / Honor PROMISED!
Then it saddens me to inform you it's not coming until at least Quarter Two of 2018 now...
https://www.xda-developers.com/honor-7x-honor-8-emui-8-q2-2018-honor-france/
Are you sticking with the 7X now?
I personally don't like companies that lie to their customers.. They should have never thrown Quarter One out there if they new they were not going to meet target.
It's the "Budget Phone" of the 2017 lineup.. but this is still a slap in the face.
It's still coming just a little late.
You sound like a junkie desperate for a fix.
It missed the target by a few weeks a month or more there's bigger things to worry about.
Compare it to the recent botch job of a update by Xiaomi.
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Sorry Guys...
If you were hoping to get updated to EMUI / OREO 8.0 in Quarter One...
Like Huawei / Honor PROMISED!
Then it saddens me to inform you it's not coming until at least Quarter Two of 2018 now...
https://www.xda-developers.com/honor-7x-honor-8-emui-8-q2-2018-honor-france/
Are you sticking with the 7X now?
I personally don't like companies that lie to their customers.. They should have never thrown Quarter One out there if they new they were not going to meet target.
It's the "Budget Phone" of the 2017 lineup.. but this is still a slap in the face.
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Got fed up waiting for update...now am just waiting for redmi note 5 on 14th feb....first need to get rid of this goddam device
It's not that bad.We are getting it just a bit late .I personally think it's better to wait than getting a totally messy miui 9 device.EMUI is much better and offers better customisation than MIUI.
They Lied.. Period.
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Got fed up waiting for update...now am just waiting for redmi note 5 on 14th feb....first need to get rid of this goddam device
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Now Huawei / Honor Has Shown Their True Colors....
THIS IS THE BOTTOM TIER UNIT.. AND NOT WORTH ANY REAL EFFORT.. In their eyes.
There is not a Gosh Darn Reason this should not have gotten Oreo by now when the View 10 lanuched with it.. and now, they are saying it may not be here until JUNE!
It's because it a $199.99 phone... that's why.
I personally do not like being lied to.. I went through this with ZTE.. promising 7.0 and giving nothing.
I do believe they also promised the 6X Nougat.. and delayed and delayed it.. ( Did it ever get it? )
And Finally,
What Does This Do To The Development Community ?
There Is No Nougat Image Even Released ! and it's been over 60 days since this device went on sale !
There Sure As Hell Ain't Going To Be An Oreo Image Released at this pace UNTIL July / August !!!
Can't create any ROM's without any Images! Stripped or Otherwise.
Project Treble.......................................Down The Drain........... now, for at least several months.
If Ever.
Do You See ANY Developer's Waiting Around For This Device ?
Not when the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5, Moto G6 Plus, OnePlus 6 Hell..... EVEN HONOR"S OWN VIEW 10! are right there and will have STRONG Developmental Support behind each and every one of them.
All of you that rooted.... you did the right thing... may as well have fun with it if you are going to keep it (Just don't muck it up so you can at least sell it at some point)
Even though it's feature packed (in my eyes) for a budget device Honor is just not "Honorable"
That means A LOT to me. And you're telling us you can't get the final tweaks right within the next 50+ days???
Then you are not putting forth much effort to meet target on your bottom of the line device.
And the competition I mentioned is just around the corner.. and they WILL LAUNCH with Oreo 8.0.. and get TREMENDOUS Development Support... with or without the advantages of Project Treble...
The 7X 's Loyalty Is About To Be Tested.
Doesnt bother me actually... id I NEED Oreo, ill likely just hop on a custom rom (Already got a beta AOSP Oreo out) but happy with 7 for now. I came form the V8 Blade Pro so waiting another Q or 2 isn't that bad.
I'd rather wait for a finished product as opposed to getting a half assed rushed disaster tbh.
I find it disappointing that there is not a full firmware available for download.
Are they delaying Oreo for other reasons? They should at least have the firmware for Nougat.
How did they install from the factory? Seems a little lame.
When did they promise a Q1 release? Cause any time I've reached out to customer service, all they told me was "soon." I know there was some XDA article about it back in like September, but I never really determined if that was anything more than hearsay.
Honor US has said they're shooting for a release "by April", which technically does not rule out a Feb/March release (though I doubt it will come before April).
It's Not That Good..
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You sound like a junkie desperate for a fix.
It missed the target by a few weeks a month or more there's bigger things to worry about..
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And you sound Delusional.. Just Like ISheep..
You've been lied to.... If you're good with that sheep'on..
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Got fed up waiting for update...now am just waiting for redmi note 5 on 14th feb....first need to get rid of this goddam device
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EXACTLY BOSS..
I don't take it well being LIED to by a company.. Bargin Basement phone or not.. if you are UNAWARE of whats going on in Your Own Labs.. and have NO REAL IDEA when you can have a project THAT YOU PROMISED would be completed within a given time frame then, STFU and don't throw Wild Completion Dates out there that you unable to keep. Honor Oreo works on the View 10.. but NOT on the 7x ???
IT'S RIDICULOUS. :angel:
And you're right.. If the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 OR the Moto G6 Plus looks as good as the renders... with the support they will get WORLDWIDE this thing is out the door.
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Doesnt bother me actually... id I NEED Oreo, ill likely just hop on a custom rom (Already got a beta AOSP Oreo out) but happy with 7 for now. I came form the V8 Blade Pro so waiting another Q or 2 isn't that bad.
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Custom ROM ???
WHERE???
I don't see ANY ROM's here on XDA... Where Is This Beta ???
Is it some hack in someone's basement ???
SOURCE FOR DOWNLOAD PLEASE ? www._______________________.com ??? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
I somewhat agree though I'm not too ticked off. This is a very solid phone, but by the time we get 8.0 (April apparently) Android P will already be in the works. Well, just know that I'll most likely never purchase another Honor device again. The Moto G6 Plus is looking really attractive though, I might ditch the 7x for the G6 this coming summer.
Go look in the Roms, kernels forum, it's there.
I'd like to see a list of which companies have NOT missed delivery dates at some point for their updates along the way. It isn't unusual at all, and doesn't really meet the criteria of a lie in my opinion, but everyone can take it how they like. I've managed projects before so I know that timelines slip for many reasons, very rarely is it becuase of a desire to decieve anyone. But I can't ascribe motive to them, I can only see what is happening. Anyway, sorry it has apparrently been a life-destorying moment for some to hear this news, but I agree with many on here that I would rather get a stable release even if it slips a little bit. Being in the USA I know I'll get it last anyway, so it isn't something I'm checking for every day anyway.
Dude chill a little man damn. Big deal, things get delayed, **** happens. And there is a rom posted in the rom section of this phone. How could you miss it when you post in almost every thread when anyone talks about rooting their phone. It's right here man,
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-7x/development/openkirin-aosp-8-0-honor-7x-t3746257
It's not by "some hack in their basement" it's posted by OpenKirin which is a known development group. Sometimes you sound like you freaking work for Huawei and now you sound like you work for their competitors. Phones been out like two months or so and you're expecting to be flooded with updates and whatnot.
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And you sound Delusional.. Just Like ISheep..
You've been lied to.... If you're good with that sheep'on..
EXACTLY BOSS..
I don't take it well being LIED to by a company.. Bargin Basement phone or not.. if you are UNAWARE of whats going on in Your Own Labs.. and have NO REAL IDEA when you can have a project THAT YOU PROMISED would be completed within a given time frame then, STFU and don't throw Wild Completion Dates out there that you unable to keep. Honor Oreo works on the View 10.. but NOT on the 7x ???
IT'S RIDICULOUS. :angel:
And you're right.. If the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 OR the Moto G6 Plus looks as good as the renders... with the support they will get WORLDWIDE this thing is out the door.
Custom ROM ???
WHERE???
I don't see ANY ROM's here on XDA... Where Is This Beta ???
Is it some hack in someone's basement ???
SOURCE FOR DOWNLOAD PLEASE ? www._______________________.com ??? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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That ROM is a WIP with all 3 cameras broken and BT disabled. If you chose to flash that ROM and haven't made a stock back up then you're SOL.
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That ROM is a WIP with all 3 cameras broken and BT disabled. If you chose to flash that ROM and haven't made a stock back up then you're SOL.
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Give it time of few weeks. You will get a stable aosp 8.0 from openkirin.:laugh:
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Give it time of few weeks. You will get a stable aosp 8.0 from openkirin.:laugh:
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Hopefully.
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I find it disappointing that there is not a full firmware available for download.
Are they delaying Oreo for other reasons? They should at least have the firmware for Nougat.
How did they install from the factory? Seems a little lame.
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Amen Brother
I've been saying that for a while now.
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When did they promise a Q1 release? Cause any time I've reached out to customer service, all they told me was "soon." I know there was some XDA article about it back in like September, but I never really determined if that was anything more than hearsay.
Honor US has said they're shooting for a release which technically does not rule out a Feb/March release (though I doubt it will come before April).
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Unreal..
Soapy! said:
I somewhat agree though I'm not too ticked off. This is a very solid phone, but by the time we get 8.0 (April apparently) Android P will already be in the works. Well, just know that I'll most likely never purchase another Honor device again. The Moto G6 Plus is looking really attractive though, I might ditch the 7x for the G6 this coming summer.
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Man.. I'm with you on the Moto G6 Plus!
It may cost $30.00 to $60.00 more.. But as we are now seeing here You Get What You Pay For.
I had a Moto G5 Plus screen was just too small for me but, Developer Support almost from day one was OFF THE HOOK! Great Camera's as well. And now with the styling catching up to the times... Oh Man! :good:
But have you seen the renders of the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 ? Most Sexy Sub-$300.00 device on the planet..
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Dude chill a little man damn. Big deal, things get delayed, **** happens. Sometimes you sound like you freaking work for Huawei and now you sound like you work for their competitors. Phones been out like two months or so and you're expecting to be flooded with updates and whatnot.
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I EXPECT NOT TO BE LIED TO... It may mean nothing to you.. because you are so Enamoured with this device.. and that's your call..
And, since you have hung on to my every word.. you should know.. This Is My Call on the 7x..
Other Honor devices have it.. The View 10 Launched with it.
This is the "Step-Child" phone in their lineup.. and now you are seeing it's true place in the pecking order..
Ask Yourself.. Does That Bother You? Being Last In Line Behind Close Doors.. But Being Touted As An Equal In Public.. OUCH!
And Yes! I'll Take A Job With Either!
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And you sound Delusional.. Just Like ISheep..
You've been lied to.... If you're good with that sheep'on..
EXACTLY BOSS..
I don't take it well being LIED to by a company.. Bargin Basement phone or not.. if you are UNAWARE of whats going on in Your Own Labs.. and have NO REAL IDEA when you can have a project THAT YOU PROMISED would be completed within a given time frame then, STFU and don't throw Wild Completion Dates out there that you unable to keep. Honor Oreo works on the View 10.. but NOT on the 7x ???
IT'S RIDICULOUS. :angel:
And you're right.. If the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 OR the Moto G6 Plus looks as good as the renders... with the support they will get WORLDWIDE this thing is out the door.
Custom ROM ???
WHERE???
I don't see ANY ROM's here on XDA... Where Is This Beta ???
Is it some hack in someone's basement ???
SOURCE FOR DOWNLOAD PLEASE ? www._______________________.com ??? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Here you are!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-7x/development/openkirin-aosp-8-0-honor-7x-t3746257
Soapy! said:
I somewhat agree though I'm not too ticked off. This is a very solid phone, but by the time we get 8.0 (April apparently) Android P will already be in the works. Well, just know that I'll most likely never purchase another Honor device again. The Moto G6 Plus is looking really attractive though, I might ditch the 7x for the G6 this coming summer.
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Do u expect the Moto G6 Plus to get newer versions of Android faster? The Moto G5 Plus released with Nougat and has never recieved the Oreo update. The patches date back to October or November whereas the Honor 7X is recieving the Feb security patches on some units.
I don't really get why r people freaking out abt this. U paid $199 which is a great value, so what if an update got delayed by a month or 2. Samsung has done this, Motorola has done it too many times to even count.
Oreo 8.0 has a bad rep for being unstable which is making it hard for OEMs to roll the update out.
And finally u can't expect a company to give equal emphasis to a BUDGET phone and to a FLAGSHIP phone. Thats the reality. Pick up any samsumg mid Ranger and u'll find that the Honor 7X has recieved more updates, the same goes for anything from Motorola. The Honor View 10 is reported to cost around $400-$450 which is twice the cost of the Honor 7X.
There is the argument abt Dev support but I can guarantee atleast 90-95% ppl using Android don't care abt ROMs or rooting.
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Just saw a Reddit post that mentioned that Oreo is currently being rolled out for the Moto G5! I wonder if that means that Oreo for our devices is right around the corner?
It Will be great! :laugh:
Link, bro?
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Link, bro?
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https://www.xda-developers.com/motorola-moto-g5-plus-android-8-1-oreo-soak/
Hmm, not sure - the roll out for both G5S plus and G5 Plus Oreo have both been soak tests so far. I've not seen a mention of a general release so far.
It could be that Motorola are working on the Oreo update for our devices, I imagine we're not the highest priority at the moment, since we already had our major update. Still, let's see what happens.
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... since we already had our major update. ...
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NO! We didn't. When I bought the device, it was mentioned in all promotional material that we will get guaranteed Android N and O updates. Though, there was no time frame mentioned, but this is ridiculous that we have to wait so long. I'm never gonna recommend a Moto device again, just because of updates, which was the USP for recommendations.
I am not sure when will Motorola ever speak about G4(+) as in their Oreo upgrade plan this device was missing at first. Then on reddit people made posts with promo materials showing promises and they just included the device in their list I believe several months ago. So, they never intended to upgrade it, and who knows they ever will.
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NO! We didn't. When I bought the device, it was mentioned in all promotional material that we will get guaranteed Android N and O updates. Though, there was no time frame mentioned, but this is ridiculous that we have to wait so long. I'm never gonna recommend a Moto device again, just because of updates, which was the USP for recommendations.
I am not sure when will Motorola ever speak about G4(+) as in their Oreo upgrade plan this device was missing at first. Then on reddit people made posts with promo materials showing promises and they just included the device in their list I believe several months ago. So, they never intended to upgrade it, and who knows they ever will.
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The major update was nougat that this device received already(echo92 is correct). At the beginning it was shipped with marshmallow. Seems you bought the device while those promo materials were discussed around the world
You'll find already a lot of threads in this device forum discussing the Oreo topic.
Edit: something to read
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/help/motorola-promised-oreo-build-t3802976
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-getting-android-o-t3576948/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/oreo-g4-plus-t3673163
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/android-oreo-8-0-coming-to-motorola-t3660249
strongst said:
The major update was nougat that this device received already(echo92 is correct). At the beginning it was shipped with marshmallow. Seems you bought the device while those promo materials were discussed around the world
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This would be correct for any vendor that promises one major upgrade and had a history of doing so. But, Motorola was choice of many due to consistent security updates and at least 2 major upgrades, and not just that, they actually said that. So, you are right they gave one major update out of promised 2, but I didn't mean that I bought the device with Nougat.
My purchase date was 20-May-2016 which was the Amazon-exclusive launch date in India and got it in my hand on 21-May-2016. I have the device with one of my family members now as I upgraded to a different device.
Luring the updates and making customer buy due to that reason and denying or delaying later is not done. We don't have very strict consumer protection law here, otherwise there definitely would have been an update
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NO! We didn't. When I bought the device, it was mentioned in all promotional material that we will get guaranteed Android N and O updates. Though, there was no time frame mentioned, but this is ridiculous that we have to wait so long. I'm never gonna recommend a Moto device again, just because of updates, which was the USP for recommendations.
I am not sure when will Motorola ever speak about G4(+) as in their Oreo upgrade plan this device was missing at first. Then on reddit people made posts with promo materials showing promises and they just included the device in their list I believe several months ago. So, they never intended to upgrade it, and who knows they ever will.
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Nokia all the way. Really, they have very good phones, decently priced with the majority of them running Android One. If my G4 Plus were to die now, I'd probably get a Nokia 7 Plus or a 6.1.
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Nokia all the way. Really, they have very good phones, decently priced with the majority of them running Android One. If my G4 Plus were to die now, I'd probably get a Nokia 7 Plus or a 6.1.
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Nokia do seem to be a good choice, one of the things I'm not keen on is their lack of an official bootloader unlock program. Granted, you can pay for an unlock key (to whom?) and the increasing security measures (e.g. Safetynet) are making unlocking more of a hassle, just at the moment there's not much support for custom ROMs or TWRP.
Ok so basically I hate 8.1 and want to revert back to 7.1. Only problem is that I think it's impossible with the Amazon variant of the Moto g5 plus. Can someone point me in the right direction??
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Ok so basically I hate 8.1 and want to revert back to 7.1. Only problem is that I think it's impossible with the Amazon variant of the Moto g5 plus. Can someone point me in the right direction??
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Would be interesting why you 'hate' 8.1. What's worse in comparison to 7.0? There are a lot of users that haven't updated for several reasons (like me) and it would be helpful to know what isn't that good or is so bad to hate it? Most users report a similar battery usage so what's it?
If you want to revert you can't go to 7.1 as there was only 7.0 for Potter.
Imho, you have to fastboot flash the latest 7.0 firmware, make a backup of everything before you do so (system,data, persist, EFS etc).
Flash 7.0 firmware, stop the update service and you should be good to go.
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Would be interesting why you 'hate' 8.1. What's worse in comparison to 7.0? There are a lot of users that haven't updated for several reasons (like me) and it would be helpful to know what isn't that good or is so bad to hate it? Most users report a similar battery usage so what's it?
If you want to revert you can't go to 7.1 as there was only 7.0 for Potter.
Imho, you have to fastboot flash the latest 7.0 firmware, make a backup of everything before you do so (system,data, persist, EFS etc).
Flash 7.0 firmware, stop the update service and you should be good to go.
Sent from my Moto G5 Plus using XDA Labs
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For me the main issue is with WiFi, it keeps on dropping and its annoying. Would suggest you not to update just yet.
Wolfcity said:
Would be interesting why you 'hate' 8.1. What's worse in comparison to 7.0? There are a lot of users that haven't updated for several reasons (like me) and it would be helpful to know what isn't that good or is so bad to hate it? Most users report a similar battery usage so what's it?
If you want to revert you can't go to 7.1 as there was only 7.0 for Potter.
Imho, you have to fastboot flash the latest 7.0 firmware, make a backup of everything before you do so (system,data, persist, EFS etc).
Flash 7.0 firmware, stop the update service and you should be good to go.
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Removal of the night mode for the most part. No app can do it just as good
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Removal of the night mode for the most part. No app can do it just as good
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This is the single reason I've had it with Motorola. I could not stand this either, and so I unlocked the bootloader and got twrp/magisk ready to flash a new ROM with every feature I want. I'm done with the selective features they provide.
Night mode is actually good for your sleep, yet they give you attentive display to burn your eyes out...rather than a filter to help you at night.
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This is the single reason I've had it with Motorola. I could not stand this either, and so I unlocked the bootloader and got twrp/magisk ready to flash a new ROM with every feature I want. I'm done with the selective features they provide.
Night mode is actually good for your sleep, yet they give you attentive display to burn your eyes out...rather than a filter to help you at night.
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Yeah I think Lenovo messed Moto up. This is gonna be the last Moto phone I ever buy. Luckily there are other mid-range phones with similar specs on the market
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Yeah I think Lenovo messed Moto up. This is gonna be the last Moto phone I ever buy. Luckily there are other mid-range phones with similar specs on the market
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Agreed, 100% man. Honestly the only thing they have going for themselves right now, is the fact that this is one of the best phones for rooting and custom roms. Thankfully there is plenty of support from developers, otherwise we would all be doomed with Moto support.
I'm just kicking myself for waiting this long to begin with, in hopes Moto turned around...LOL
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Agreed, 100% man. Honestly the only thing they have going for themselves right now, is the fact that this is one of the best phones for rooting and custom roms. Thankfully there is plenty of support from developers, otherwise we would all be doomed with Moto support.
I'm just kicking myself for waiting this long to begin with, in hopes Moto turned around...LOL
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Well i was cheap and bought the Amazon variant with the locked bootloader lol so at least you don't have it as bad as me. Next phone I buy has to have an unlocked bootloader, be CDMA and gsm friendly.
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Well i was cheap and bought the Amazon variant with the locked bootloader lol so at least you don't have it as bad as me. Next phone I buy has to have an unlocked bootloader, be CDMA and gsm friendly.
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Just curious, did you every try to unlock your bootloader? I thought they either came up with a different root method, or I thought I even read some people got lucky and were able to unlock it through Moto's website (although that was early on).
But I feel your pain, me being cheap (saving the $50), ordered the fiance the z3 play Amazon variant... I'm very tempted to see what Amazon will charge me to swap it for an unlocked version. I just can't rely on the future with Moto...
On a side note, I wish we could just flash the full unlocked software channel, then take control...via fastboot/adb. Sure would be nice.
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Just curious, did you every try to unlock your bootloader? I thought they either came up with a different root method, or I thought I even read some people got lucky and were able to unlock it through Moto's website (although that was early on).
But I feel your pain, me being cheap (saving the $50), ordered the fiance the z3 play Amazon variant... I'm very tempted to see what Amazon will charge me to swap it for an unlocked version. I just can't rely on the future with Moto...
On a side note, I wish we could just flash the full unlocked software channel, then take control...via fastboot/adb. Sure would be nice.
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Well people said it wouldn't work or worse(bricked device) or didn't even bother. This is the first device I've owned that can't even be rooted lol.