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Something better for my S5?

I have to say, I am almost done with vendor/carrier Android phones. I have had the S2, LG G2x, S3, HTC One X+, and now the Verizon S5, which was my choice of over the iPhone 5s for my corporate phone.
I have not done anything to my S5 yet, haven't installed a boat load of apps, nor does my company run any fancy, MDM work/play management software, and still this phone already feels bloated after a couple months of use. The lockscreen sometime takes many seconds to show up, only then to immediately disappear before I can even enter my lock pattern or swipe my fingerprint. And boy, does the fingerprint reader really blow compared to the iPhone. Try unlocking the phone while on the go with the fingerprint read... nearly impossible. The camera, wow sometimes takes over 20s to load. I thought going from a 1GB RAM phone to 2GB phone would make a difference. Needless to say the Samsung and Verizon bloatware finds way of eating resources up fast.
I'm stuck with this phone, and once again, it looks like I'll need to root and load a custom ROM to get this POS to run like a respectable smartphone. I'm capable and have done this to all my Android devices before (except my Nexus 7), but quite frankly I am tired of this and all the time I have spent, unlocking, downloading, backing up and loading and unloading ROMs. I only wish, there was a Google Play edition for Verizon or, I should just buy my own Nexus 6 when it comes out.
In meantime, what is the best recommendation of the clean/stripped/no frills ROM that will make my phone run and look most like a Nexus device?
Sorry for the rant, I'm not planning to go over to the fruity side either. So you guys are stuck with me.

smoothmoose said:
I have to say, I am almost done with vendor/carrier Android phones. I have had the S2, LG G2x, S3, HTC One X+, and now the Verizon S5, which was my choice of over the iPhone 5s for my corporate phone.
I have not done anything to my S5 yet, haven't installed a boat load of apps, nor does my company run any fancy, MDM work/play management software, and still this phone already feels bloated after a couple months of use. The lockscreen sometime takes many seconds to show up, only then to immediately disappear before I can even enter my lock pattern or swipe my fingerprint. And boy, does the fingerprint reader really blow compared to the iPhone. Try unlocking the phone while on the go with the fingerprint read... nearly impossible. The camera, wow sometimes takes over 20s to load. I thought going from a 1GB RAM phone to 2GB phone would make a difference. Needless to say the Samsung and Verizon bloatware finds way of eating resources up fast.
I'm stuck with this phone, and once again, it looks like I'll need to root and load a custom ROM to get this POS to run like a respectable smartphone. I'm capable and have done this to all my Android devices before (except my Nexus 7), but quite frankly I am tired of this and all the time I have spent, unlocking, downloading, backing up and loading and unloading ROMs. I only wish, there was a Google Play edition for Verizon or, I should just buy my own Nexus 6 when it comes out.
In meantime, what is the best recommendation of the clean/stripped/no frills ROM that will make my phone run and look most like a Nexus device?
Sorry for the rant, I'm not planning to go over to the fruity side either. So you guys are stuck with me.
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First thing I did out of the box was root, install Titanium Backup Pro and freeze everything that was not system dependent. I run supersu and Xposed framework with Wanam and some other modules. The phone has zero lag and the battery life is insanely great ... I've never had an android phone (my 4th) with such incredible battery life. I am so far beyond impressed with this phone it's un-real.

Good point. And my point is, ultimately I am needing to at minimum as you suggest root and freeze with Titanium backup, which at least a bit less of time waste than installing a new ROM. That said, I mind as well while I'm at, since I really don't find anything redeeming about Touchwiz. The bigger point, I can't imagine a non-technical user wanting to do this over-and-over again for each Android phone they get.
I agree battery life is very good, even stock. I'm running in power saving mode. That is the only redeeming quality I have found so far...

smoothmoose said:
Good point. And my point is, ultimately I am needing to at minimum as you suggest root and freeze with Titanium backup, which at least a bit less of time waste than installing a new ROM. That said, I mind as well while I'm at, since I really don't find anything redeeming about Touchwiz. The bigger point, I can't imagine a non-technical user wanting to do this over-and-over again for each Android phone they get.
I agree battery life is very good, even stock. I'm running in power saving mode. That is the only redeeming quality I have found so far...
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Obviously running in power saving mode is going to slow down system performance .
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huedawg said:
Obviously running in power saving mode is going to slow down system performance .
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Power savings mode throttles down the CPU around 30% and dims the screen. This is no way should cause the lockscreen to take over 5s to pop up or the camera 20s to load. I am not playing any 3D games or anything like this. I'm pretty sure it's just bloated software eating away at the 2GB of RAM.
My HTC One X+ never slowed to a crawl like this on power saving mode. The issue with that phone was the battery life and hence...power savings mode.

smoothmoose said:
Power savings mode throttles down the CPU around 30% and dims the screen. This is no way should cause the lockscreen to take over 5s to pop up or the camera 20s to load. I am not playing any 3D games or anything like this. I'm pretty sure it's just bloated software eating away at the 2GB of RAM.
My HTC One X+ never slowed to a crawl like this on power saving mode. The issue with that phone was the battery life and hence...power savings mode.
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Then you have a bad phone . ?
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Not experiencing any of the problems you have man. INSANE battery life, extremely snappy performance, I personally have grown to like touchwiz alot. Why dont you at the very least just do a fresh flash with stock firmware and it'll fix alot of your issues or go install one of the roms like SLIMHYDE and youll never have those issues again unless the above poster was right and you just have a bad phone, which is easy to get replaced.

huedawg said:
Then you have a bad phone . ?
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damagi123 said:
Not experiencing any of the problems you have man. INSANE battery life, extremely snappy performance, I personally have grown to like touchwiz alot. Why dont you at the very least just do a fresh flash with stock firmware and it'll fix alot of your issues or go install one of the roms like SLIMHYDE and youll never have those issues again unless the above poster was right and you just have a bad phone, which is easy to get replaced.
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Probably only a slight possibility my phone is defective. Usually things speed back up if I reboot the phone. But things slow to crawl usually after about 2 days of use.
I can definitely try to do a clean reset, freeze apps, install new ROM, etc. My point is, I really shouldn't need to do this for a top of line smartphone. Again, the only Android device that hasn't presented these issues and I am happy to run stock is my Nexus 7. I guess I should save some pennies for the Nexus 6 phone...great way to suck more $$ out of me.

smoothmoose said:
Probably only a slight possibility my phone is defective. Usually things speed back up if I reboot the phone. But things slow to crawl usually after about 2 days of use.
I can definitely try to do a clean reset, freeze apps, install new ROM, etc. My point is, I really shouldn't need to do this for a top of line smartphone.
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I guess my point is , is that very few people are having to do that . That leans more towards a bad device than anything else . Perhaps you have something that is running using system resources ?

smoothmoose said:
I have to say, I am almost done with vendor/carrier Android phones. I have had the S2, LG G2x, S3, HTC One X+, and now the Verizon S5, which was my choice of over the iPhone 5s for my corporate phone.
I have not done anything to my S5 yet, haven't installed a boat load of apps, nor does my company run any fancy, MDM work/play management software, and still this phone already feels bloated after a couple months of use. The lockscreen sometime takes many seconds to show up, only then to immediately disappear before I can even enter my lock pattern or swipe my fingerprint. And boy, does the fingerprint reader really blow compared to the iPhone. Try unlocking the phone while on the go with the fingerprint read... nearly impossible. The camera, wow sometimes takes over 20s to load. I thought going from a 1GB RAM phone to 2GB phone would make a difference. Needless to say the Samsung and Verizon bloatware finds way of eating resources up fast.
I'm stuck with this phone, and once again, it looks like I'll need to root and load a custom ROM to get this POS to run like a respectable smartphone. I'm capable and have done this to all my Android devices before (except my Nexus 7), but quite frankly I am tired of this and all the time I have spent, unlocking, downloading, backing up and loading and unloading ROMs. I only wish, there was a Google Play edition for Verizon or, I should just buy my own Nexus 6 when it comes out.
In meantime, what is the best recommendation of the clean/stripped/no frills ROM that will make my phone run and look most like a Nexus device?
Sorry for the rant, I'm not planning to go over to the fruity side either. So you guys are stuck with me.
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Dude, I feel your pain. This will be my last Samsung device because of their dogsh*t software and locked hardware. The phone slows down over time, there is no doubt. The only great thing about the S5 is the hardware, putting CM would have made it by FAR the best phone out.
Regardless, I have rooted and debloated. I have enabled Wifi tethering, enabled voice recording, etc. For the most part I am pretty satisfied right now.
I am waiting for the next version of the LG phone, G4 maybe? Or a clean Google phone on Verizon.

Rock solid. Impressive.

I'm now hitting 15 days of uptime so basically since the day I first got it. That's quite impressive for me, I've had a lot of phones and they all had some issue that you needed to reboot to clear or would random reboot by themselves. This goes for the S3, Nexus 4, S5, Nexus 5. Etc.
Its nice to use a solid phone. Everything still works fast and great and no issues. Battery life is consistent still too. This is going to be even more awesome once Lollipop hits. [emoji3]

mobilehavoc said:
I'm now hitting 15 days of uptime so basically since the day I first got it. That's quite impressive for me, I've had a lot of phones and they all had some issue that you needed to reboot to clear or would random reboot by themselves. This goes for the S3, Nexus 4, S5, Nexus 5. Etc.
Its nice to use a solid phone. Everything still works fast and great and no issues. Battery life is consistent still too. This is going to be even more awesome once Lollipop hits. [emoji3]
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15 days?, seriously?

He is saying he has had his phone for 15 days.

lukesdiesel said:
He is saying he has had his phone for 15 days.
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No, uptime is how long it has been since the last boot of the phone.
He hasn't turned it off in 15 days for any reason.

Amen! I love this phone so far and really love what Motorola has done with this phone and the past tons of other Motorola phones I have had. Lollipop will run smooth on this device. Cannot wait.
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Yeah this phone is badass, I'm glad all the complaints I heard didn't stop me from buying one. No regrets at all.

I've got 15 days beat.
My Turbo is showing 396 hours uptime. That's 16.5 days.
The phone isn't workout its quirks, but the software and memory management are definitely stable.
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That's right. 15 days without a power off or reboot? Why should I? Thing is super stable which is something I really wanted.

I'm with you guys! Love this phone. First phone I've not cared if I had root on. Sure root would be nice, but it's stable, fast and nearly stock. Love it.

Occasionally my phone will lock up and reboot itself. This has happened maybe 3-4 times since November 2nd. I have not done any updates yet, the phone seems rock solid most of the time. But unknown reasons for phone reboots is never a good feeling. It's the whole reason I upgraded my s4 for the turbo, to avoid random rebooting (a random reboot could cost me my job so its crucial that my phones are rock solid).
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-Michael_ said:
I'm with you guys! Love this phone. First phone I've not cared if I had root on. Sure root would be nice, but it's stable, fast and nearly stock. Love it.
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Droid Maxx, the Turbo's predecessor was that way for me. It really didn't need root. The 2014 X and the Turbo carry on the tradition.
ccheww said:
Occasionally my phone will lock up and reboot itself. This has happened maybe 3-4 times since November 2nd. I have not done any updates yet, the phone seems rock solid most of the time. But unknown reasons for phone reboots is never a good feeling. It's the whole reason I upgraded my s4 for the turbo, to avoid random rebooting (a random reboot could cost me my job so its crucial that my phones are rock solid).
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It's got to be some poorly written app you're using.
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ccheww said:
Occasionally my phone will lock up and reboot itself. This has happened maybe 3-4 times since November 2nd. I have not done any updates yet, the phone seems rock solid most of the time. But unknown reasons for phone reboots is never a good feeling. It's the whole reason I upgraded my s4 for the turbo, to avoid random rebooting (a random reboot could cost me my job so its crucial that my phones are rock solid).
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Sounds like yours is defective or you have an app installed that's causing issues. I have not had a reboot yet. My phone hasn't been on this whole time but that's because I've switched from art to dalvik a few times

Anybody that would run a motorola phone for 15 days is brave. Don't take offense please. But I always reboot my droid maxx every 3 days just to keep things smooth.
I guess without modifications and you're happy with the performance then that's awesome.
I really wish I could say the same tho. But I gotta have root or unlocked bootloader. The turbo is the best phone out there period. Love the capacitive buttons. Nexus 6 is only better because it's unlock able. But I love love love the droid brand.
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mobilehavoc said:
I'm now hitting 15 days of uptime so basically since the day I first got it. That's quite impressive for me, I've had a lot of phones and they all had some issue that you needed to reboot to clear or would random reboot by themselves. This goes for the S3, Nexus 4, S5, Nexus 5. Etc.
Its nice to use a solid phone. Everything still works fast and great and no issues. Battery life is consistent still too. This is going to be even more awesome once Lollipop hits. [emoji3]
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Having your phone run for two weeks without reboots or crashes doesn't sound like something to brag about.....

thegrants82 said:
Having your phone run for two weeks without reboots or crashes doesn't sound like something to brag about.....
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When you're coming from phones that would slow down to a crawl or crash or reboot often it is something I'm really enjoying it.

I am only on day the with this phone but the battery, display, operation smoothness and build quality are top notch. Coming from the DNA I was skeptical about whether I should up grade or not. I am glad I did.
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Nexus 6 5.1 Encryption Performance

It seems that Encryption has got a big performance boost in 5.1.
I ran Androbench on my stock Nexus 6 running LMY47M.
My results using stock androbench settings.
Sequential Read|Write
161.53 MB/s | 74.75 MB/s
Random Read
20.0 MB/s, 5187.28 IOPS (4KB)
Random Write
7.98 MB/s, 2052.08 IOPS (4KB)
These numbers are actually higher than the unencrypted numbers AndroidPolice and Antutu reported back when the Nexus 6 first came out.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...us-6-encrypted-vs-unencrypted-its-not-pretty/

Yeah I'm not even gonna mess with unencrypting mine. It's as fast as me already. I don't care about benchmark numbers.

Here's my androbench decrypted.
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Using NEON instructions now. Should help a lot, though it's still not hardware accelerated.

neyenlives said:
Yeah I'm not even gonna mess with unencrypting mine. It's as fast as me already. I don't care about benchmark numbers.
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Since I have my work email on mine I've had mine encrypted from the beginning. Now I don't feel any performance hit though. I just ran the benchmark to make sure it was more than placebo.

donatom3 said:
Since I have my work email on mine I've had mine encrypted from the beginning. Now I don't feel any performance hit though. I just ran the benchmark to make sure it was more than placebo.
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Same here. I had to enable a pattern to be able to access exchange server. There are exchange security bypass hacks out there you can load to remove that dependency (was for the Note 3 anyways) but I'm gonna leave it be.

I'd like to see someone check how the CPU is hit during heavy I/O now.
Remember that it could be pegging the CPU in order to keep the data transfer fast, which would have an impact on CPU intense applications and battery life. Real world use includes I/O *simultaneous* with CPU. Benchmarks only test them separately.

This is good to see. Once 5.1 or whatever settles in, I'm going back to encrypted and locked down

treIII said:
Here's my androbench decrypted.
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Also decrypted, results are pretty similar. Staying decrypted, phone is flying. Barely no stutters or lag.

wietse1988 said:
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Also decrypted, results are pretty similar. Staying decrypted, phone is flying. Barely no stutters or lag.
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Random write is almost double as the decrypted phone hmmm , maybe it's still worth it to decrypt the phone

Chad_Petree said:
Random write is almost double as the decrypted phone hmmm , maybe it's still worth it to decrypt the phone
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I can't take that decision for you. I don't really care about encryption. If they steal my phone, and don't know my password they only can get data off my sd card. Which I don't really bother.. What bothers to me is how the phone feels. And I decrypted it on android 5.0.1 And the phone did feel allot faster. On 5.1 decrypted the phone feels just as fast, I haven't used 5.1 encrypted, so I can't tell the differnce on 5.1. But I think the phone wil feel faster decrypted. So you could give it a try.

wietse1988 said:
I can't take that decision for you. I don't really care about encryption. If they steal my phone, and don't know my password they only can get data off my sd card. Which I don't really bother.. What bothers to me is how the phone feels. And I decrypted it on android 5.0.1 And the phone did feel allot faster. On 5.1 decrypted the phone feels just as fast, I haven't used 5.1 encrypted, so I can't tell the differnce on 5.1. But I think the phone wil feel faster decrypted. So you could give it a try.
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I will, I'm actually waiting for the whole drama with the different 5.1 builds to be solved and then I will decrypt the phone

I was in the decrypted camp on 5.0... Didn't bother on 5.1 and honestly it's fast. No lag or stutters

My N6 still sucks opening apps. I'm so tired of this phone feeling slow. I still have my N5 because I'm procrastinating selling it but its running stock 5.0.1 and all the apps open instantly. I tested it against my decrypted N6 running 5.1, and my N6 is way behind.. Androbench says my sequential read speed is 187.72MB/s. Now if I reboot my phone it'll probably clear some apps from memory and do better idk I'll go try but either way sometimes it does better after a reboot, but it is nowhere near as fast as loading apps on my N5 and that bothers me so bad..
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OK after reboot its sequential read is at 192.84MB/s. Its performing a little better but this wears off for me. I can't keep rebooting my phone to get a little speed increase. Is that a bad result? Should my phone do better being decrypted? I can't stand it.
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Does the encryption go away once you root the device or is there a thread on how to decrypt the device?

KappaAce2010 said:
Does the encryption go away once you root the device or is there a thread on how to decrypt the device?
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Encryption and root are independent of each other. You can do either, or both in any combination.
Here's on thread on how to decrypt > http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/disable-forced-encryption-gain-root-t2946715

italia0101 said:
I was in the decrypted camp on 5.0... Didn't bother on 5.1 and honestly it's fast. No lag or stutters
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This. It cant get much better!

I really hope Google comes out with a new Nexus 5 soon. I was hearing they were gonna do that. I'd rather get that and sell this phone if that phone ends up having faster storage speeds with similar specs. This phone is terrible.
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sionicion said:
I really hope Google comes out with a new Nexus 5 soon. I was hearing they were gonna do that. I'd rather get that and sell this phone if that phone ends up having faster storage speeds with similar specs. This phone is terrible.
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Any new phone will still use encryption and if Goog doesn't want to shell out the fees to Qualcomm it is still going to be software like it is now. Maybe a newer proc would be better at handling it though? Not sure.

Evo_Shift said:
Any new phone will still use encryption and if Goog doesn't want to shell out the fees to Qualcomm it is still going to be software like it is now. Maybe a newer proc would be better at handling it though? Not sure.
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Its not encryption. My Nexus 6 is decrypted and still my Nexus 5 outperforms my N6 at opening apps.
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Any kernel that eliminates fingerprint Reader lag?

because of androids new doze mode, it takes forever for the phone to wake from sleep now.. even if it was just put to sleep 30 seconds prior. are there any kernels that help this annoying wake delay?
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Try different governor and scheduler settings using a kernel editor. might get better results without having to change your kernel.

you can adjust the stock kernel?
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im pretty sure stock kernels contain different governors and schedulers. they wont be aftermarket ones but you can have a couple different options to try atleast.

hmm interesting. I just wish doze wasn't so stupidly aggressive. like it's so aggressive yet I see no battery savings at all compared to phones on 6. 0 and even 5.0
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jayochs said:
hmm interesting. I just wish doze wasn't so stupidly aggressive. like it's so aggressive yet I see no battery savings at all compared to phones on 6. 0 and even 5.0
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Doze isn't stupidly aggressive, the way LG has the firmware setup/not setup is slow. Of all the devices I have owned, the V20 seems to have the worst fingerprint unlock speed. Luckily, it should be something they can fix in firmware, should they ever decide to push out firmware updates lol. It's very much like the S7/Edge. With the stock firmware and lockscreen, it's wretched, yet you could install Good Lock, and it would be significantly faster. I am hoping the issue lies with the LG Lockscreen.

Not sure about anybody else but I just got a V20 yesterday (H910) and after doing two factory resets (because I'm odd that way) and then putting in some fingerprint images - and I removed the thin clear plastic that is/was on the fingerprint reader disc, that might help but I can't speak for anyone else on that - what I've noticed is that it's probably 1/5th of a second to go from unlocked to the Home screen on this V20 I have.
Is that fast, or is it slow, I guess I can't say but it seems awfully damned fast to me. Sometimes I'll barely graze the reader and figure it won't work and voila, it unlocks even when I'm using the very tip of an index finger (along the actual top edge) and I really don't think that should enough to unlock it but again it happens anyway.
Pure stock device, apparently it's still on the 10L build from December - I'm not an AT&T customer so it looks like I'll be stuck on that for a while as I'm still considering unlocking the bootloader/rooting and as I understand it that requires that build, haven't decided yet. Overall it's a nice phone but I'm really disappointed in the camera quality, I mean really disappointed - after owning a G4 I swear no other smartphone camera has even come close in my opinion, I really miss that device.

My fingerprint reader used to be WAY faster until I rooted. It was just as fast using the Reserection Remix ROM but I had to go back to the NotSoStock ROM too many bugs for me. I've tweaked my CPU Governor to the best middle ground I can get between performance and battery life. Still having lag with the Fingerprint reader but not as bad.

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Doze isn't stupidly aggressive, the way LG has the firmware setup/not setup is slow. Of all the devices I have owned, the V20 seems to have the worst fingerprint unlock speed. Luckily, it should be something they can fix in firmware, should they ever decide to push out firmware updates lol. It's very much like the S7/Edge. With the stock firmware and lockscreen, it's wretched, yet you could install Good Lock, and it would be significantly faster. I am hoping the issue lies with the LG Lockscreen.
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it's related to how LG uses doze. because the phone doses immediately when screen is off and it cuts power to the scanner. this can be seen by shutting screen off then immediately going to unlock with finger scanner.. it's incredibly fast. then, wait 45 seconds.. and try again. incredibly slow. it's shutting down the process into doze mode and it has to wake when it senses a finger. it's annoying
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I've had my v20 since October 27th. Never been reset and my fingerprint reader is lightning fast no matter how long it's been sleeping. Does it matter if you have the 2nd screen always on? Mine is. And as long as it's on the reader is instantaneous.
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mines always on too and it'll take like 5 seconds to register from a deep sleep. unlocked us996 here
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Terrible performance after Galaxy S8 SM-G950U One UI/Pie update

Hi all,
My phone performance is terrible, everything runs slow and lagging since I took the update. Phone performance was very good before. Anyone else experience this and have any ideas to bring performance back to par?
Thanks for any help.

Factory reset or full wipe after updating to a new firmware. Also, do not restore Google apps, just start from a scratch.

I also have serious lag, it feels like a budget phone. I've had this phone since it launched, and installed every update without precaution. This is the first time experiencing these issues.
Frame rate is terrible, especially while scrolling. Delays in pressing buttons or launching apps have grown from milliseconds to sometimes two or three seconds. No other problems(aside from poor design choices). It feels like aggressive power throttling, not memory issues.
As soon as I saw that so much manual power management has been replaced by a "learning" system, I'm skeptical that the usual fixes will do anything for my problems, especially considering there is no other malfunction. Anyone else?
G950U

bigalbklyn said:
Hi all,
My phone performance is terrible, everything runs slow and lagging since I took the update. Phone performance was very good before. Anyone else experience this and have any ideas to bring performance back to par?
Thanks for any help.
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Samsung Galaxy s8 SM-G950W. Yes. Ever since the update, my Samsung is losing files., running slow and unable to use previously used apps. Substranum, fonts etc.

It's Samsung way of saying - "Buy galaxy S10"
I didn't fell any difference at all in performance.

Hansoliv said:
It's Samsung way of saying - "Buy galaxy S10"
I didn't fell any difference at all in performance.
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Well, that's what I was waiting to hear. If ppl aren't universally having the issue, then a factory reset may cure the problem. I'll give it a try soon.

Yes i just got bad performance after installing pie (custom rom, so i always factory reset or it wont work) but yeah after 14 days my phone start to slowing down like old smartphone and the apps is not starting correctly (e.g i must start magisk manually or the root wont work (the app cant detect if phone is rooted even when magisk hide is off)).
I try the LightROM and ALEXIS and both have this problem (performance way worse on lightrom). I know this isnt their fault but the samsung fault (maybe because its early relase? Or...).
Note : performance is normal in the first day, but after 14-30 days the phone start to acting weirdly (the apps behave weirdly) dunno why.
Btw i use SM-G950FD

After restarting about 5 times, then manually clearing cache partition, I was able to get smooth performance. Unfortunately, I still have to restart at least once a day to prevent lagging animation. This is with light usage: streaming, facebook, email.
I turned on "reduce animations" in advanced features, and set the animation scales to 1.5 with dev options. This seems to help prolong smooth operation, but I still have to restart daily. Next step is factory reset, I have a lot to backup...

fresh install thru odin and start all over again is really good solution. at the beginning i also experiencing lag

Mine has an issue of having the fingerprint not working after it was changed. I have to do one of the following:
1. Restart and boot via safe mode then if it works, reboot again
2. Restore Settings from synced backup
3. Reset Settings
So much of a hassle.... I am thinking of rooting this soon.

Hansoliv said:
It's Samsung way of saying - "Buy galaxy S10"
I didn't fell any difference at all in performance.
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My company bought Samsung J4plus on good deal from Three, has super sensitive reception, my own S8 only get EDGE or worse, J4 has 4G all over!!
anyone know if s9/S10 that good??

bigalbklyn said:
Hi all,
My phone performance is terrible, everything runs slow and lagging since I took the update. Phone performance was very good before. Anyone else experience this and have any ideas to bring performance back to par?
Thanks for any help.
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Had the same problem so flashed official firmware (for my carrier, downloaded from sammobile) with Odin. This part can be done without of rooting your phone.
Do this first (back up your data before as clear flash will delete everything), and test after if it works well. If not, root it (https://forum.xda-developers.com/sa...w-to/guide-root-install-twrp-samsung-t3747535) and install adaway from xda labs.
If you root the phone or install TWRP, e-fuse will break and you cannot go back after that. Warranty will be void and the Samsung fit app won't work anymore.
Fortunately, there are workarounds on a rooted phone (https://tinyurl.com/yy37gnwv) so that is not a big deal, at least for me.
Not sure when you root it if wave pay services will work so do some research first.

an-_-dro said:
fresh install thru odin and start all over again is really good solution. at the beginning i also experiencing lag
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Has your lag subsided after time? Mine appears after a night's sleep. It never fails: Restart in the morning, smooth scrolling all day. Next morning, laggy, stuttering scrolling until I restart again. I've uninstalled all unused apps and left power mode on high performance. No change. As soon as I wake up, animation lags like a budget phone. Everything else is reliable, just not the animation.
Of course, I don't actually know what's going on, but I'm willing to bet that this new power management system that we can't control is to blame. If I have to go through all the odin, etc steps, I may just roll back to oreo. Pie is prettier, but I want my smooth operation back.

comnut said:
My company bought Samsung J4plus on good deal from Three, has super sensitive reception, my own S8 only get EDGE or worse, J4 has 4G all over!!
anyone know if s9/S10 that good??
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S10e gets similar reception to my A8(2018). When I got the A8 I had a S8 before that, and i don't remember there being any difference in signal. I live in poor signal area, so if a phone had bad signal, I'd probably remember because I owuldn't have any signal at all.

This is really quite unacceptable. I took the OTA update and the lagging began. I've never had an issue with an OTA update. I've never done a factory reset after an OTA update either. Flashing custom ROM is different but this is from Samsung...
Does anyone have a solution that doesn't involve daily reboots or a factory reset? I just find that really inconvenient.

J450N79 said:
This is really quite unacceptable. I took the OTA update and the lagging began. I've never had an issue with an OTA update. I've never done a factory reset after an OTA update either. Flashing custom ROM is different but this is from Samsung...
Does anyone have a solution that doesn't involve daily reboots or a factory reset? I just find that really inconvenient.
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Yes, I agree. It's hard to know at whom who to point the finger. Google, Samsung, or both. Regardless, it's very disappointing, and hurts my impression of both companies.
I'm currently allowing the phone to run for 7 days to see if the root method listed above by robyos may be feasible for my tmo s8.
If manually restarting is the only hurdle for you, it can now be set to restart automatically (I guess they anticipated this?) Settings > device care > three dots > auto restart.
It feels like a duct-tape band-aid, but it's there. After my 7 day test, I'll probably give this auto-restart a try. However, I'm concerned about the terribly annoying tmo jingle at each restart.

DrivenKeys said:
Yes, I agree. It's hard to know at whom who to point the finger. Google, Samsung, or both. Regardless, it's very disappointing, and hurts my impression of both companies.
I'm currently allowing the phone to run for 7 days to see if the root method listed above by robyos may be feasible for my tmo s8.
If manually restarting is the only hurdle for you, it can now be set to restart automatically (I guess they anticipated this?) Settings > device care > three dots > auto restart.
It feels like a duct-tape band-aid, but it's there. After my 7 day test, I'll probably give this auto-restart a try. However, I'm concerned about the terribly annoying tmo jingle at each restart.
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I'm thinking the problem may be googles not Samsung's...I had a OnePlus 5 for almost 2 years. At some point after the pie update it would stutter while scrolling or during animations intermittently. Even a factory reset didn't fix it. The phone was still fast but it was aesthetically annoying seeing the stuttering.
I drown the phone in the ocean on vacation this month and had to replace it so I got a used s8. I haven't had the same issue with scrolling but I've only had it for a couple weeks so far on a fresh wipe. It had some "normal" Samsung lag that the OnePlus didn't have while opening apps and it doesn't keep nearly as much in memory (4gb vs 8 GB RAM). But I'm still thinking the problem may be with pie itself since people were complaining about stuttering on both Samsung and OnePlus phones.
Hopefully my s8 is not affected and it's only certain ones experience it.
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totally not satisfied with the Pie update, I wish I did not upgrade my fast S8.....
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350Rocket said:
I'm thinking the problem may be googles not Samsung's...I had a OnePlus 5 for almost 2 years. At some point after the pie update it would stutter while scrolling or during animations intermittently. Even a factory reset didn't fix it. The phone was still fast but it was aesthetically annoying seeing the stuttering.
I drown the phone in the ocean on vacation this month and had to replace it so I got a used s8. I haven't had the same issue with scrolling but I've only had it for a couple weeks so far on a fresh wipe. It had some "normal" Samsung lag that the OnePlus didn't have while opening apps and it doesn't keep nearly as much in memory (4gb vs 8 GB RAM). But I'm still thinking the problem may be with pie itself since people were complaining about stuttering on both Samsung and OnePlus phones.
Hopefully my s8 is not affected and it's only certain ones experience it.
Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk
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Wow! It's sad to hear an 8gb phone would still have the same issue. I wonder if this has to do with power management. Perhaps it's squeezing a tiny percentage of battery life out of saving some frames. It drives me crazy and gives me a headache. I wish they'd provide a simple switch for whatever this is.
This os feels like they ventured into breaking what works in an endless quest to fix what wasn't broken. Perhaps some team of programmers is celebrating minute improvements, but it's coming at the expense of the consumer, who never signed up to be the guinea pig. Each update seems to remove or break basic reliability and functionality that we paid for. I feel like I paid a premium price to become a software tester.

So reboots don't seem to fix the lag I'm experiencing when opening and closing certain apps. This phone was plenty fast before for me. Other issues are present now too. Auto adaptive display brightness doesn't work as well. I also really think it's sheet that you can't disable GPS and have the battery saving mode anymore! WTF Samsung.