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Don't buy the Samsung Galaxy S III (yet) see my screen

This Software is still full of bugs.
The screen below (sry is dutch) shows a screenshot of my Galaxy SII and my Galaxy SIII.
Both run Android ICS
Both have about the same apps installed.
but my SII has 458 MB of free ram and my SIII only 89 MB free ram.
This causes a lot of crashes with the touchwizz.
For a phone costing more then a regular laptop I find this very disappointing.
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Might be some of the apps are causing the phone to crash. How was the phone prior to you downloading those apps?

So you are saying not to buy a S3 yet because you are having issues with it? Sorry to hear you are having issues with yours but mine works great! I don't have any issues like you & maybe you should start researching on rooting & using custom ROMs.
Since you didn't specify if you are using a custom ROM or stock, I'm going to assume you are using stock. When I was running stock, I didn't have issues as you either.
Don't cry wolf!

fabrimago said:
This Software is still full of bugs.
The screen below (sry is dutch) shows a screenshot of my Galaxy SII and my Galaxy SIII.
Both run Android ICS
Both have about the same apps installed.
but my SII has 458 MB of free ram and my SIII only 89 MB free ram.
This causes a lot of crashes with the touchwizz.
For a phone costing more then a regular laptop I find this very disappointing.
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I call complete BS on this whole topic. They are not running nearly the same kind of identical software and the SGS3 has ran great in my hands compared to my Skyrocket.
There are plenty of SGSII vs SGS3 videos and articles on the internet. Don't let this topic discourage you. Do your research.
On my homescreen I have Beautiful Clock widget, FOlder organizer, 5 folders full of apps, Google voice widget, Gmail widget, flip board, pulse, active apps widget, S Calendar widget, Music widget, Negative colors, assentive light, google search with a live wallpaper (Captain America).
I don't have any lag issues and I haven't noticed any reload issues. Maybe because I sold my Skyrocket and used my Captivate for a long time and the homescreen might be loading way too fast to even notice a reload, but from what I see I have experienced such problems.

Already a few topics on this and tips on how to make the most of the RAM you have.

LOL! Dont buy a pentium pc (yet). My 8086 is less buggy and more reliable. Same goes for my 1988 Ford Fiesta compared to the new new 3 series BM.

That image is showing that your Galaxy S III actually has less usable ram than the Galaxy S II.
I'm assuming your Galaxy S II has a custom kernel, with extra RAM tweaks and more ram allocated from somewhere, no?
Actually, I'd pretty much bet money that it does.
Want a clean comparison? Flash your SGSII to stock, and re-check your RAM
EDIT: Also the reason for the SGSIII having less free ram is because more apps are currently running. Whereas it's clear that your SGSII has less apps running.

... iv also read before that the more RAM being used, the better - better to have the RAM utilised than not with Android OS.

Well I get 2gb or ram.. can I still buy it? Lol

It's nothing no one can say about this phone that will stop me from buying it. I don't care if you get instant diarrhea by touching it. I'll buy it along with some Depends.
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This is my current GS3 RAM usage.

This is either a misinformed post or a troll post.
Either way, it doesn't need its own thread.

charlieb620 said:
It's nothing no one can say about this phone that will stop me from buying it. I don't care if you get instant diarrhea by touching it. I'll buy it along with some Depends.
Exactly what I was thinking
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Here's mine

Here's a hint one post total the op has lol I'm running the EVO LTE only and lag I get from ram is when I'm running multiple things quickly switching apps with sense running as well .
Touch wiz is smaller and may have some bugs but a thread to get others to not buy a device you should banned yourself from all phone related furums ..
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You're an idiot.
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Ok guys, for the 147,657,485,667th time.
This is Android/Linux not Windows empty RAM is wasted RAM !!

I can confirm this is nonsense, not only does my s3 outperform my s2, the day i got it my boss promoted me at work, i won a new car in a lucky draw compettition and a supermodel gave me her number after i saved her dog from being run over by a car, we are now dating. So yes, the s3 has its advantages.
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harise100 said:
Ok guys, for the 147,657,485,667th time.
This is Android/Linux not Windows empty RAM is wasted RAM !!
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Hey, windows got better at this with 7 and, I assume, 8. Microsoft seems to be embracing this ideal.

May I be so bold to suggest that you should not buy a house. It could burn down. They have not yet find a solution to build a house that is fire proof.
Also..do not stay inside a house. you could get killed from fumes, pollutants and worst, from the house falling on you!
What about the car you drive? You might get a bad tire, brakes not working, engine exploding, etc.
I guess and I hope you get my point! If not....you need help..and badly!

No magazineUX

Again samsung fail
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This is good news to me, tbh.

abdielol said:
This is good news to me, tbh.
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Excellent news
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Ok ?
Wait .. Isn't that a good thing , no bloat - ware ...
A couple of months back Samsung signed an agreement with Google that they will try to reduce the modifications to the stock Android experience
I think this is the result of that agreement.

The only 4.4 ROM out right now is for the Columbian Wi-Fi version. It could be the same ROM as for other markets or it may not be. Magazine UX is still on the N10.1-14 microsite where it first appeared after the Pro's started shipping. It may mean something or it may not.
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/2014galaxynote10.1/feature.html
If it does end up permanently missing I won't be too upset. When M-UX was first shown at CES I thought it was cool because there were a ton of widgets and you could create tiles for any installed app. In and of itself it could have been a potential alternate UI. What was released with the Pro's was completely neutered. From three home pages with one being the main home screen it's been reduced to one tagged on at the end of the traditional TW home pages. Most of the widgets left are just modular pieces of My Magazine which means it went from being a hidden pull-up to mandatorily consuming a home page that could be used for other things instead. I use all my home pages so wasn't keen on giving one up to M-UX in its current state. It's not even called Magazine UX anymore. It's now "Content Home."
There is a downside. I was kind of hoping the N10.1-14 would have been made s/w compatible with the Pro's to increase the frequency of updates received. If M-UX and other UI-based features from the Pro's have been left out we'll end up being an odd duck and 4.4 might be the last major update we see. It certainly won't help update timing, that's for sure.
Time will tell...

You really want that bloated crap? I'm glad it's not on there.
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Itchiee said:
You really want that bloated crap? I'm glad it's not on there.
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If I wanted AOSP I wouldn't have spent what I did on a tablet that has more added on top of Android than any other device on the planet. You'll find this shocking but some folks actually do use the N10.1-14 to get work done and a lot of that "bloated crap" is what makes that possible.

Actually I wasn't talking to you hammer, it was for the op.
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Actually I wasn't talking to you hammer, it was for the op.
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My bad. But this is a mixed forum. 1/3 actually use the N10.1-14 as a creation/productivity device as Samsung intended. 1/3 bought if for the high-end h/w, stripped it bare s/w wise, and I guess use it primarily for consumption and gaming. The other 1/3 are somewhere in between. What pleases one group pisses the other off. To each their own.
S Pen and s/w combined are more important to Note purchasers than the h/w. Even the Samsung brand is more important than h/w. Maybe not on XDA but for the rest of the masses that make up 95+% of Note sales. TW won't win any design awards but it does provide a level of functionality, especially on the Note's, that makes having it a positive; at least for me.
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I understand and do enjoy your posts here. I'm looking at it for what it is a Flip board home screen and do not see it being useful for most when you can have the same functionality already. Yes my tablet is a luxury device to me that I wanted but don't need. If it bums you guys out that it's missing then I apologize, but I'm glad I don't have it running...
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Itchiee said:
I understand and do enjoy your posts here. I'm looking at it for what it is a Flip board home screen and do not see it being useful for most when you can have the same functionality already. Yes my tablet is a luxury device to me that I wanted but don't need. If it bums you guys out that it's missing then I apologize, but I'm glad I don't have it running...
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Just to Add , I would love any extra software functionality as long as the "frame rate" is maintained as stock .

Itchiee said:
I understand and do enjoy your posts here. I'm looking at it for what it is a Flip board home screen and do not see it being useful for most when you can have the same functionality already. Yes my tablet is a luxury device to me that I wanted but don't need. If it bums you guys out that it's missing then I apologize, but I'm glad I don't have it running.
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We actually agree. Before M-UX got neutered I was cautiously excited. Mostly for the interactive widgets that could be potential productivity boosters and getting more content on each page. As it stands now it's just a space wasting news feed. The Pro's also lost Samsung Hub which we'll retain. Samsung's videos can be stored on external SD and played back in Pop-up-play which is great for long trips.

BarryH_GEG said:
We actually agree. Before M-UX got neutered I was cautiously excited. Mostly for the interactive widgets that could be potential productivity boosters and getting more content on each page. As it stands now it's just a space wasting news feed. The Pro's also lost Samsung Hub which we'll retain. Samsung's videos can be stored on external SD and played back in Pop-up-play which is great for long trips.
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I will pull magazineUX from a p900 rom and test it out may include as an option in next rom release. V1 due out in 13mins

hashcheck said:
I will pull magazineUX from a p900 rom and test it out may include as an option in next rom release. V1 due out in 13mins
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The version of M-UX in the N12 is crippled like described above. Here's a thread from the N12 forum that discusses what's missing along with a kind of schizophrenic discussion on how to (theoretically) get the missing components back. People in the N12 forum are trying to figure out how to disable/remove M-UX so they can get a normal home page back. The grass is always greener...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2663940

It should be switchable between normal TW UI and MagazineUX
(If it possible)

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It should be switchable between normal TW UI and MagazineUX
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if its just two different launchers and a few other apks, i dont see why not. its like how i have blinkfeed and lg home flashed on top of my nexus 5 which is also running the GEL and nova lol

I'm in the "who gives a ****" crowd. It's a bloated gimmick that'd be used one time and abandoned.

Hancom Office
The only thing I'm hoping for when the 4.4 is eleased for U.S. is the Hancom Office software. Won't loose any sleep if they exclude the Magazine UX. I had a Pro 8.4 and a Note 12.2(to big) and really didn't like it.

I have the note 12.2 and I dont use magazine ux. Actually bought nova prime finally for it. Like barry said if it had been released like it was at ces I would have loved it. But as it is it is nuetered and boring. It is still pretty sexy looking imo.
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note 5 specs rumored

http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-note-5-edge-not-just-another-second-fiddle-07382531/

Even though I'm on the Dev Edition the Note 4 will be my last Samsung. I'm sure the Note 5 will be amazing...but principally I can't support them any longer. I hope that many others will do the same. I realize we are a small segment but every vote counts ...right?
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gcounts said:
Even though I'm on the Dev Edition the Note 4 will be my last Samsung. I'm sure the Note 5 will be amazing...but principally I can't support them any longer. I hope that many others will do the same. I realize we are a small segment but every vote counts ...right?
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Why

gingi999 said:
Why
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Probably because there won't be an SDcard or removable battery and Samsung is locking up their devices more and more all the time.

gingi999 said:
Why
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Yeah I enjoy unlocked rooted phones. I love to run custom Roms, aosp, tw, doesn't matter, just having choices matters. Samsung is chasing government and big business contracts with Knox security features. Finally no SD card and closed battery doesn't bother me that much. I'll go nexus 6 in a week or 2 so I can get my fix.
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If samsung goes no sdcard on a note that would just be crazy.. why are all the companies pushing for cloud storage with most people on data limit packages.
Just doesn't seem like the best thing for the customers. That's all gain for the company.

gcounts said:
Yeah I enjoy unlocked rooted phones. I love to run custom Roms, aosp, tw, doesn't matter, just having choices matters. Samsung is chasing government and big business contracts with Knox security features. Finally no SD card and closed battery doesn't bother me that much. I'll go nexus 6 in a week or 2 so I can get my fix.
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did this last November, Note 3 --> Nexus 6, couldn't be happier
rocking 5.1.1 AOSP rom, Custom kernel, Faux sound, Themes, Ad block, DT2W, Extended desktop (full screen) with Pie controls, Privacy guard with App permissions, long press back to kill app, Volume keys to control music and many more useful features..
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droidguy22 said:
did this last November, Note 3 --> Nexus 6, couldn't be happier
rocking 5.1.1 AOSP rom, Custom kernel, Faux sound, Themes, Ad block, DT2W, Extended desktop (full screen) with Pie controls, Privacy guard with App permissions, long press back to kill app, Volume keys to control music and many more useful features..
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Ha .....yeah that sounds awesome. I had unlocked Note 2 for over 2 years was in hangouts with a dev fkfmfz so I always had fresh black gapps and themes ....as well as awesome tw roms ...soooo nice...then I saw this deal on a DE note 4 I couldn't resist. Its a great phone don't get me wrong, there just isn't the Dev interest in a phone or manufacturer that is so locked down. I remember when Adam Outler quit unlocking Samsung on Verizon....sad day.
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As far as for pushing for online storage, you best believe it is the government pushing for it. If your info is hidden they can't randomly read it if it's on your memory card. No conspiracy theory, just a fact. Seems like Samsung is trying to imitate Apple. This Note 4 will be my last Samsung device too. I'm tired of locked bootloaders, moving towards no extended memory expansion and non-removable batteries.

Those specs are nothing special.
Probably won't even bother.

This note 4 is my first Samsung device and I do enjoy it but I'm with you guys, this well be my last one. Most of my experience has been with team iPhone and I left it because the specs on this phone were so great and I used to have an Android device way back in the gingerbread days and wanted to get back to using different roms. Although there are things I like about this phone, this has been a big disappointment for me. Even if root is achieved with in a couple days, weeks, or months my upgrade isn't too far off. I'm either going to go back to team iphone or maybe give sony a try, I feel like they may be on the right track, they are making their boatloaders more developer friendly.

yamaha_wins said:
If samsung goes no sdcard on a note that would just be crazy.. why are all the companies pushing for cloud storage with most people on data limit packages.
Just doesn't seem like the best thing for the customers. That's all gain for the company.
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In all honesty it's because with the introduction of lollipop google is moving towards the direction of not using SD cards anymore as we have seen. Manufacturers are just following along as well. With that too they are just adding larger memory to the phones to help make up the no SD card as seen with the s6

This conversation belongs in the Off Topic conversation here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3032543
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Rogers Lollipop 5.1.1 Update "Coming Soon"

Rogers has updated their rollout schedule to state 5.1.1 is coming soon, previously it was simply June.
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Follow me @ootpapps for more timely Android updated for the S6!

Coming soon sounds worse than a definite month like June.

No, they set it to coming soon when it's near approach date. This happened with the Nexus 5 update.
Coming soon means within days or a couple weeks at most, it's their lowest date range.

autom8r said:
No, they set it to coming soon when it's near approach date. This happened with the Nexus 5 update.
Coming soon means within days or a couple weeks at most, it's their lowest date range.
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Why did Rogers have anything to do with a Nexus update?

Seriously? They issue the update to customers with Nexus 5's. I'm referring to Rogers update schedule... It was the same case with the Nexus 5 update from Rogers, it was previously a month, then it said coming soon...

Nice! Cant w8 (hehe, name of our model)

Elisha said:
Coming soon sounds worse than a definite month like June.
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Coming soon = Coming late

How long before this phone is stuck with some horribly out-of-date version of Android? You know there's a problem Microsoft is beating you on updates.

creaturemachine said:
How long before this phone is stuck with some horribly out-of-date version of Android? You know there's a problem Microsoft is beating you on updates.
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If you're asking this question seriously, I would say probably right around when the S8 rolls out. The S4 got 5.0.1 a few days after the S6 was released - so it seems like we get about 2 years of update coverage. That seems pretty reasonable to me for a two year old flagship (or more than reasonable, given that I last about 6 months per phone).

looking forward to it , i just hope pinpong root will be supposed

does the Rogers S6 have the ram management issue as well?

oxxshadow said:
does the Rogers S6 have the ram management issue as well?
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Yes

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Yes
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How do you know that?
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How do you know that?
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All galaxy s6 models have the ram management issue. Search around there's plenty of threads on the topic

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All galaxy s6 models have the ram management issue. Search around there's plenty of threads on the topic
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I think they may mean whether or not the new ROM has it... I don't think Rogers does anything but add their bloat to the ROM, so, chances are it's got the bug.

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I think they may mean whether or not the new ROM has it... I don't think Rogers does anything but add their bloat to the ROM, so, chances are it's got the bug.
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Would you think its still worth getting an S6 even with this flaw? I have an upgrade on Rogers, and the S6 seems like the best option. However, I feel this bug may drive me crazy.

Seems like the international variant 920F and T-Mobile 920T had their updates.... still waiting for the canadian variant!!!!

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Would you think its still worth getting an S6 even with this flaw? I have an upgrade on Rogers, and the S6 seems like the best option. However, I feel this bug may drive me crazy.
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I honestly don't understand all the rage over this. I don't have an issue with the memory management, however I don't flip between apps like a spaz or fret over five different memory managers like some people seem to do.

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I honestly don't understand all the rage over this. I don't have an issue with the memory management, however I don't flip between apps like a spaz or fret over five different memory managers like some people seem to do.
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The issue is that the S6 has to keep reloading apps, Say you open a webpage on chrome, then exit to another app. switching back to chrome will reload the page, when the page was supposed to be stored in memory.
The problem is that for a premium device which costs 600+, there should be flaws like this.

Samsung Launches 2016 Tab S2 with Qualcomm Snapdragon 652

And is otherwise more or less the same as the 2015 version.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-refreshes-the-Galaxy-Tab-S2-8.0-and-Galaxy-Tab-S2-9.7_id80150
Some people say this is more of a "downgrade" in terms of GPU power.

Strange. This is almost nothing upgraded. For me, main thing is it replacing tab s3, or we will see it in july, august?

just came here to post this, hopefully this means android 6 will come out soon for our s2's

Before people get their hands on this.
I bet this is gonna overheat.
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I dont see sense of this "upgrade"

It comes with 6.0.1 though. I guess it's samsungs way of saying FU to the people who have been waiting for an update for their exynos S2.

Cost reduced for Europe
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I've been reading that they are likely not to launch the tab s3 this year now. Truthfully, aim fine with that. I love the bleeding edge but damn, it's hard to keep up anymore.
I did snag a Tab Pro S with Windows 10 and that's actually pretty amazing...
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It will definitely be better for ROM development, being snapdragon has a lot more development than exynos cpu's in all phones. But then again it's a tablet so there will be limited to no development.

Assuming they don't lock the bootloader (as they did all the US s7 Snapdragons).
But yeah, they found that a mid-range 2016 processor might be easier/cheaper to produce than the 5433.
Hopefully this means 64bit Android 6.0 for the Tab S2 exynos...
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It will definitely be better for ROM development, being snapdragon has a lot more development than exynos cpu's in all phones. But then again it's a tablet so there will be limited to no development.
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I agree on the possibility, that this might mean no 6.0 for the exynos, but in any way we can't change that. I think it has a lot to do with the fact, that samsung really isn't making that much with their tablets in comparison to what they expected. Launching an overhauled, easier to develop tablet might be their way to make some buzz, but not invest that much in new development. I don't think that this means anything for the exynos variant concerning Rom development, since they are wholey other SoCs. Also smartphone sales were not as great as expected with the s6 and with China as new challenger in the market, samsung probably has to watch their expenses.

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Fixing TB is a different issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/fix-titanium-backup-backup-failed-t335208
Following the instructions in Post #3 fixed my TB on MM T710
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Post 3 says just do a hard reset? Are you sure that's the right post
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After googling i fixed TB by converting it to system app.
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I have the 713 and my battery life is awesome... I have a 2014 Note 10.1 and Note Pro 12.2 Note 4 and Note 5... I have the tablet 2013 Nexus 7 and a few other devices laying around the house but this gets the best battery life out of all of them. I am rooted with Xposed running greenify I know that helps. But I've been on my tablet for 7 hours now and I'm still at 87%... and this is being inactive watching videos playing music I played a couple games... reading XDA! Lol
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You can only ask or indeed answer that question if you can compare it to another device you own and use the same way or its a pointless question.
We all use them in different ways and this has a huge effect on aspects such as battery life.
It's almost like comparing how long a tank of fuel lasts in a car.
It all depends on many factors.
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I have had mine for 3 weeks and its great...runs better than ky Note 4, 2014 Note 10.1, and Note Pro 12.2 and Tab Pro 12.2
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Before people get their hands on this.
I bet this is gonna overheat.
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I have had my S2 T713 (2016) for about two weeks now and it is working great! I have not had any issues with wifi or overheating! I upgraded the firmware to the latest version first. Then installed TWRP custom recovery, Lineage OS 14.1 and root! This tablet is my daily driver now! ?

MMarc said:
I have had my S2 T713 (2016) for about two weeks now and it is working great! I have not had any issues with wifi or overheating! I upgraded the firmware to the latest version first. Then installed TWRP custom recovery, Lineage OS 14.1 and root! This tablet is my daily driver now! [emoji108]
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Screen on time best? Fingerprint works?

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Screen on time best? Fingerprint works?
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The Fingerprint works great! When I was using Touchwiz I could not login with Fingerprint even though I set it up. But it works great with Lineage. Screen On Time best? Is that located in the settings menu under battery?

MMarc said:
The Fingerprint works great! When I was using Touchwiz I could not login with Fingerprint even though I set it up. But it works great with Lineage. Screen On Time best? Is that located in the settings menu under battery?
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I mean how much screen on timebyou get? Thx

optionalmgrr.la said:
I mean how much screen on timebyou get? Thx
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Oh Okay! I will post back here after work day over I am using it now for music and probably will do some TV shows so I will see how it does! I usually have it plugged in all the time out of habit but I am running on battery to see how well it does.

Battery Saver and Performance
This is a screenshot of my tablet's usage so far for today.