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The Sony Xperia Tablet Z - EISA Award Winner

Here's something to further boost our kiddie egos and bragging rights :victory: - It comes as no surprise to me really that the exquisite Sony XTZ is EISA's pick for the European Tablet of the Year 2013 - 2014. So happy I went with Sony on this one
Hit the link for the short run down: http://www.eisa.eu/award/31/european-tablet-2013-2014.html:cool:
Tell me this doesn't make you that much prouder to be an SXTZ owner :highfive:
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Its a good Android tablet. For a time at least, lol.
I do agree that given the weight and size its a marvel of technology considering the performance and quality of construction.
Sony appear to be moving in the right direction, lets hope this trend continues.

Even if it is the winner, i don't see any real developer here, the development section is dead, i mean like dead in dead. Nothing new is happening there. I don't know why.... God dammit developers build some kernels, roms

Anicane said:
Even if it is the winner, i don't see any real developer here, the development section is dead, i mean like dead in dead. Nothing new is happening there. I don't know why.... God dammit developers build some kernels, roms
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Have to agree about it being dead around here. There was some activity at first when there a was a prize on offer...but since then, dead
I must admit I knew that if I wanted loads of development I should have bought the Nexus 10. Buying the SXTZ came with the risk of little or no development...and that risk has turned into reality.
On the other hand, the stock ROM is pretty good and at the moment going to a custom ROM means you'll lose more useful features than you gain.
All I really want on top of stock is Nova launcher and PIE/LTA so I can lose all the navigation/notification/status bars. That's why I've gone to PAC.
But I've lost my warranty, GPS, DRM keys, HDMI out, being able to charge with tablet off, and a few other things.
I sometimes wish I'd bought the Nexus 10...but I'm telling myself I've got to kick the ROM-flashing habit.
Oh well, at least I've got my Nexus 4 to keep me occupied

GretaLewd said:
Have to agree about it being dead around here. There was some activity at first when there a was a prize on offer...but since then, dead
I must admit I knew that if I wanted loads of development I should have bought the Nexus 10. Buying the SXTZ came with the risk of little or no development...and that risk has turned into reality.
On the other hand, the stock ROM is pretty good and at the moment going to a custom ROM means you'll lose more useful features than you gain.
All I really want on top of stock is Nova launcher and PIE/LTA so I can lose all the navigation/notification/status bars. That's why I've gone to PAC.
But I've lost my warranty, GPS, DRM keys, HDMI out, being able to charge with tablet off, and a few other things.
I sometimes wish I'd bought the Nexus 10...but I'm telling myself I've got to kick the ROM-flashing habit.
Oh well, at least I've got my Nexus 4 to keep me occupied
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Well, i know Sony products are not so popular among the developers, but than again this one in my opinion is among the best tablets, so it should have been better. Oh well maybe it is due to something like price, or something else.

Anicane said:
Well, i know Sony products are not so popular among the developers, but than again this one in my opinion is among the best tablets, so it should have been better. Oh well maybe it is due to something like price, or something else.
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Don't look now, but TechRadar seems to share the same views as us. They also gave the SXTZ top honors as 2013's tablet: http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/tablets/10-best-tablet-pcs-in-the-world-today-1079603

Anicane said:
Well, i know Sony products are not so popular among the developers, but than again this one in my opinion is among the best tablets, so it should have been better. Oh well maybe it is due to something like price, or something else.
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I just don't comprehend why Sony products are favored by developers.... Sony offers so very much better support than other OEMs, like Samsung and HTC, and send updates ,such faster than other OEMs as well. It seems like Sony would/should be a developer favorite, the only thing I can think of is that no major Sony flagship smartphones are carried by the major US carriers, AT&T and T-Mobile have carried 1 or 2 but Verizon hasn't had one since the Play, but there should still be more development.
The price tag is another thing hindering development but not much, the other tablets I was looking at before I purchased the XTZ offered much less for the same amount or more, really the price is not too bad when you think about it. The LTE model is overpriced, $900 in the US when I bout my WiFi model, but I would guess the reason for that would be to deter people from buying it off contract. If money is the issue there have still been major amounts of development on phones and tablets with the same, or higher, price tag, I paid less for my XTZ than my Note 2 or any other phone I've bought in the past few years, so there has to be something I am missing.
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shangrila500 said:
I just don't comprehend why Sony products are favored by developers....
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I think you mean " I just don't comprehend why Sony products are not favored by developers...."

No magazineUX

Again samsung fail
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This is good news to me, tbh.

abdielol said:
This is good news to me, tbh.
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Excellent news
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Ok ?
Wait .. Isn't that a good thing , no bloat - ware ...
A couple of months back Samsung signed an agreement with Google that they will try to reduce the modifications to the stock Android experience
I think this is the result of that agreement.

The only 4.4 ROM out right now is for the Columbian Wi-Fi version. It could be the same ROM as for other markets or it may not be. Magazine UX is still on the N10.1-14 microsite where it first appeared after the Pro's started shipping. It may mean something or it may not.
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/2014galaxynote10.1/feature.html
If it does end up permanently missing I won't be too upset. When M-UX was first shown at CES I thought it was cool because there were a ton of widgets and you could create tiles for any installed app. In and of itself it could have been a potential alternate UI. What was released with the Pro's was completely neutered. From three home pages with one being the main home screen it's been reduced to one tagged on at the end of the traditional TW home pages. Most of the widgets left are just modular pieces of My Magazine which means it went from being a hidden pull-up to mandatorily consuming a home page that could be used for other things instead. I use all my home pages so wasn't keen on giving one up to M-UX in its current state. It's not even called Magazine UX anymore. It's now "Content Home."
There is a downside. I was kind of hoping the N10.1-14 would have been made s/w compatible with the Pro's to increase the frequency of updates received. If M-UX and other UI-based features from the Pro's have been left out we'll end up being an odd duck and 4.4 might be the last major update we see. It certainly won't help update timing, that's for sure.
Time will tell...

You really want that bloated crap? I'm glad it's not on there.
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Itchiee said:
You really want that bloated crap? I'm glad it's not on there.
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If I wanted AOSP I wouldn't have spent what I did on a tablet that has more added on top of Android than any other device on the planet. You'll find this shocking but some folks actually do use the N10.1-14 to get work done and a lot of that "bloated crap" is what makes that possible.

Actually I wasn't talking to you hammer, it was for the op.
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Actually I wasn't talking to you hammer, it was for the op.
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My bad. But this is a mixed forum. 1/3 actually use the N10.1-14 as a creation/productivity device as Samsung intended. 1/3 bought if for the high-end h/w, stripped it bare s/w wise, and I guess use it primarily for consumption and gaming. The other 1/3 are somewhere in between. What pleases one group pisses the other off. To each their own.
S Pen and s/w combined are more important to Note purchasers than the h/w. Even the Samsung brand is more important than h/w. Maybe not on XDA but for the rest of the masses that make up 95+% of Note sales. TW won't win any design awards but it does provide a level of functionality, especially on the Note's, that makes having it a positive; at least for me.
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I understand and do enjoy your posts here. I'm looking at it for what it is a Flip board home screen and do not see it being useful for most when you can have the same functionality already. Yes my tablet is a luxury device to me that I wanted but don't need. If it bums you guys out that it's missing then I apologize, but I'm glad I don't have it running...
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Itchiee said:
I understand and do enjoy your posts here. I'm looking at it for what it is a Flip board home screen and do not see it being useful for most when you can have the same functionality already. Yes my tablet is a luxury device to me that I wanted but don't need. If it bums you guys out that it's missing then I apologize, but I'm glad I don't have it running...
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Just to Add , I would love any extra software functionality as long as the "frame rate" is maintained as stock .

Itchiee said:
I understand and do enjoy your posts here. I'm looking at it for what it is a Flip board home screen and do not see it being useful for most when you can have the same functionality already. Yes my tablet is a luxury device to me that I wanted but don't need. If it bums you guys out that it's missing then I apologize, but I'm glad I don't have it running.
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We actually agree. Before M-UX got neutered I was cautiously excited. Mostly for the interactive widgets that could be potential productivity boosters and getting more content on each page. As it stands now it's just a space wasting news feed. The Pro's also lost Samsung Hub which we'll retain. Samsung's videos can be stored on external SD and played back in Pop-up-play which is great for long trips.

BarryH_GEG said:
We actually agree. Before M-UX got neutered I was cautiously excited. Mostly for the interactive widgets that could be potential productivity boosters and getting more content on each page. As it stands now it's just a space wasting news feed. The Pro's also lost Samsung Hub which we'll retain. Samsung's videos can be stored on external SD and played back in Pop-up-play which is great for long trips.
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I will pull magazineUX from a p900 rom and test it out may include as an option in next rom release. V1 due out in 13mins

hashcheck said:
I will pull magazineUX from a p900 rom and test it out may include as an option in next rom release. V1 due out in 13mins
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The version of M-UX in the N12 is crippled like described above. Here's a thread from the N12 forum that discusses what's missing along with a kind of schizophrenic discussion on how to (theoretically) get the missing components back. People in the N12 forum are trying to figure out how to disable/remove M-UX so they can get a normal home page back. The grass is always greener...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2663940

It should be switchable between normal TW UI and MagazineUX
(If it possible)

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It should be switchable between normal TW UI and MagazineUX
(If it possible)
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if its just two different launchers and a few other apks, i dont see why not. its like how i have blinkfeed and lg home flashed on top of my nexus 5 which is also running the GEL and nova lol

I'm in the "who gives a ****" crowd. It's a bloated gimmick that'd be used one time and abandoned.

Hancom Office
The only thing I'm hoping for when the 4.4 is eleased for U.S. is the Hancom Office software. Won't loose any sleep if they exclude the Magazine UX. I had a Pro 8.4 and a Note 12.2(to big) and really didn't like it.

I have the note 12.2 and I dont use magazine ux. Actually bought nova prime finally for it. Like barry said if it had been released like it was at ces I would have loved it. But as it is it is nuetered and boring. It is still pretty sexy looking imo.
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I think I'm done here.

Coming from all 3 previous notes, I've had this for a week and just miss having root. I miss my viper audio, and miss all the theming options I had. While it's a nice enough phone, it just doesn't seem leaps and bounds above my rooted note 3. Not enough to warrant waiting for root which may or may not happen. Had strongly considered the nexus 6, but 32gb of storage on at&t is a deal breaker. I listen to a lot of music at work through my BT, and the cure tech in viper audio really helps my tinnitus. The edge screen has a lot of potential but sorta limited for now, although I do like the notifications, that part is cool, and really is an improvement. But overall, I gotta have root. So I guess I'll go back to my rooted note 3 and watch for developments here.

You'll be back. Root will come. LoL
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When I upgrade my oldest daughter gets my hand me down, I'm giving her the edge and taking back my n3. Pop in the SD card, restore, and back in business. I kept my backups just in case.

You will be back. After ome week have no root which is painful I finally made it. Install exposed and some module. Now it is a super phone. Battery life increase significantly and smooth like silk.

9wire said:
When I upgrade my oldest daughter gets my hand me down, I'm giving her the edge and taking back my n3. Pop in the SD card, restore, and back in business. I kept my backups just in case.
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Lucky daughter.. [emoji6]
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I like the Edge in its stock version. I do agree that the edge screen is limited right now, but I'm sure it will soon become more useful. I have the Note 4 also and it offers that little twist to the N4 with the edge screen.

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why should we pay £700 for a phone and then have to mess about to get better battery life etc??

...because you paid £700 for a device, complete with all the crap nobody uses!
Although, to each their own.
-sent from the edge of the note galaxy-

9wire said:
Coming from all 3 previous notes, I've had this for a week and just miss having root. I miss my viper audio, and miss all the theming options I had. While it's a nice enough phone, it just doesn't seem leaps and bounds above my rooted note 3. Not enough to warrant waiting for root which may or may not happen. Had strongly considered the nexus 6, but 32gb of storage on at&t is a deal breaker. I listen to a lot of music at work through my BT, and the cure tech in viper audio really helps my tinnitus. The edge screen has a lot of potential but sorta limited for now, although I do like the notifications, that part is cool, and really is an improvement. But overall, I gotta have root. So I guess I'll go back to my rooted note 3 and watch for developments here.
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root is here

cvaria said:
root is here
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Where? AT&T (N915A) is locked down. Please provide a link to where we can root our AT&T Edge. [emoji15]
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Oditius said:
Where? AT&T (N915A) is locked down. Please provide a link to where we can root our AT&T Edge. [emoji15]
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ah yes, foot in my mouth. sorry

cvaria said:
ah yes, foot in my mouth. sorry
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That is OK, I stole your image... Because I probably do it worse.

Early 5.1.1 review by sammobile

This is why to root and install custom recovery. As soon as somebody puts up we can all have it. Instead of waiting for if ever carriers want to etc.
http://www.cultofandroid.com/73789/this-is-android-5-1-1-running-on-the-galaxy-s6-and-s6-edge/

Is just me or that A-Z on the app drawer is already present? I have it on my phone. T-Mobile

On some variants it already exists. Mine's not one of them (SM-G920F).

Options for removal of the S-Finder and Quick Connect buttons. Finally, without a build.prop workaround.

No mention of ram/memory management fix.
Reassuring.

My app drawer is A-Z the EU unbranded does that if you want to flash it, ....XEU
I literally don't know what sfinder and quick connect are. putting them in the way of everybody doesn't make people press them.
Yes what is going on with the memory? too many apps stay and causes a crash eventually music stops playing doesn't look for next chapter of audiobook. But everything reloads whenever you go back. The worst of both worlds.

paddylaz said:
No mention of ram/memory management fix.
Reassuring.
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It's a feature of 5.1.1, do people not understand its a general android problem on 5.0.x, not just Samsung, and 5.1.1 on any device will fix those problems.

The only thing I care about... Will the HORRIBLE RAM management issue finally be solved as promised by Sammy?? It is unacceptable that a 2015 flagship (especially with the specs of the S6) can't hold more than 3-4 apps in memory!!

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It's a feature of 5.1.1, do people not understand its a general android problem on 5.0.x, not just Samsung, and 5.1.1 on any device will fix those problems.
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Ram management is S6 specific. Memory leak is Android 5.0 specific. The S6 has both.

Elisha said:
Ram management is S6 specific. Memory leak is Android 5.0 specific. The S6 has both.
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Exactly color fade leak it's not as bad as the worse memory management in s6 rom's.

So.. If they have and installed it - why is it not on xda yet ?
Seriously why isn't it?
Double seriously - I don't think they're running the old tmobile-galaxy-s6-edge leak either from their findings.

mettleh3d said:
So.. If they have and installed it - why is it not on xda yet
Seriously why isn't it?
Double seriously - I don't think they're running the old tmobile-galaxy-s6-edge leak either from their findings.
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Probably they got hands on an internal test version with lots of watermarks on it.

Sammobile just replied ti my question about ram management. It's still bad...
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I was thinking on purchase the Galaxy S6 Edge after they fix the RAM Managment, but it seems that samsung is going to left all users with his poorly multitasking. Yes, it is an early build, but coming from samsung Idk what hope. It seems the only good multitasking phones now are the HTC M9, LG G4, Zenfone 2 and iPhone 6/6+ (Yes, iOS doesn´t have "true multitasking", but who cares about when you can have a good amount of apps in background without one closing for itself). Now Idk if wait or purchase some of the other phones

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Sammobile just replied ti my question about ram management. It's still bad...
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God ffs really?

iFlasher said:
I was thinking on purchase the Galaxy S6 Edge after they fix the RAM Managment, but it seems that samsung is going to left all users with his poorly multitasking. Yes, it is an early build, but coming from samsung Idk what hope. It seems the only good multitasking phones now are the HTC M9, LG G4, Zenfone 2 and iPhone 6/6+ (Yes, iOS doesn´t have "true multitasking", but who cares about when you can have a good amount of apps in background without one closing for itself). Now Idk if wait or purchase some of the other phones
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You're right, to have a 3GB smartphone and can't use multitasking it's ridicolous. Why the didn't put 1GB of RAM at this point
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unfortunately it is true

I'm wondering if this ram management issue is really an issue or an exaggeration that is subjective. I mean I've had my s6 since last week. I can multitasking and switch between apps just fine according to my usage. Also it's a pretty release ...if it really is an issue at be it's something that would be ironed out by release
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I'm wondering if this ram management issue is really an issue or an exaggeration that is subjective. I mean I've had my s6 since last week. I can multitasking and switch between apps just fine according to my usage. Also it's a pretty release ...if it really is an issue at be it's something that would be ironed out by release
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Same, I have no issues multitasking or with apps closing on their own

Try to use tapatalk, goto your desired forum and open 2 or 3 more apps. This will probably reset tapatalk. Heck, I've used feedly > Chrome > screenshot > back to feedly and feedly would open from a cold start.
Past weekend my gf was taking down notes in church on Samsung memo - left the app and came back to find all her notes erased because the app closed. Ridiculous.
It's just not pleasant to use. And to say the s6e's camera is good is still only about 2~5% of daily usage.

monkeypaws said:
I'm wondering if this ram management issue is really an issue or an exaggeration that is subjective. I mean I've had my s6 since last week. I can multitasking and switch between apps just fine according to my usage. Also it's a pretty release ...if it really is an issue at be it's something that would be ironed out by release
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It is a REAL issue for a High End ~$1000 phone with 3GB of RAM that in reality appears to have less than 1GB. I mean, with 3GB you don´t even mind about if the apps are going to get killed or not, it is the last thing you hope for a device like this.

No Note 6 coming!?

So evidently there will be no Note 6 coming out. Man WTF I was hyped about the Note 6 coming out but now I will never have the chance to own one!! Its ok I will buy a Note 7 instead!
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/won-t-galaxy-note-6-because-samsung-numbering-164041302.html
Im ok with it, I mean makes sense but reminds me of Microsoft

The 7 well be all the 6 would be, only 1 more!

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The 7 well be all the 6 would be, only 1 more!
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I know, just having some fun with it.
But I did just read this and im not happy with it at all!!
The next major Android phablet release from Samsung will be called the Galaxy Note 7 and (WILL FEATURE A DUAL EDGE DISPLAY), according to Korean carrier sources speaking anonymously to ET News

Let's hope not!
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BACK2BEAN said:
I know, just having some fun with it.
But I did just read this and im not happy with it at all!!
The next major Android phablet release from Samsung will be called the Galaxy Note 7 and (WILL FEATURE A DUAL EDGE DISPLAY), according to Korean carrier sources speaking anonymously to ET News
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I had squaretrade reimburse me for my note 5 that I got because I had a calling issue, I was planning on getting a S7 Edge, but now with this news I plan on waiting for the Note 7 Edge
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I hope they have 2 versions. Im not for the edge, it looks great and all but I need flat screen. PLEASE SAMSUNG!!

Maybe they just want to call it the Note 7 to match with their Galaxy S series?

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Maybe they just want to call it the Note 7 to match with their Galaxy S series?
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That's exactly why. Some people (ridiculous imho) might view the Note 6 being inferior to the to GS7, just by the simple fact of the number being lower. Seems not as new as the GS7. I guess to match iPhone 7 too.
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If they force that edge screen I'll be switching to the new asus phablet

Will you get it if it's locked bootloader?

Bubba Fett said:
Will you get it if it's locked bootloader?
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hell no. i rather get the note 5 and lose battery swap and micro sd card.
The bootloader will most likely be locked

monkeyass408 said:
hell no. i rather get the note 5 and lose battery swap and micro sd card.
The bootloader will most likely be locked
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I gave my s7 edge to the wife. My note 4 rooted is better battery and pimped to my liking. Too bad. That phone was gorgeous.

I used to root and flash a ton. For an experiment I tried using a stock ROM on my note 4. Found I didn't have anymore use for root and Roms and got used to it quick.
On the s7 I enjoy using Samsung pay since it uses a virtual card at the stores so when places like Target get hacked again, they won't have my real card number. And I can't use Samsung pay with root or Knox tripped.
Will get the note 7(6) when it comes out of it is water resistant and has a micro sd card slot.
Some people still enjoy flashing and rooting and that's cool. I just don't have the time anymore with work and raising a family.
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Well it looks nice but I mean why make everything "EDGE" now? I rock cases on my Note 4 and I would love to have a flat screen Note 7. Come on!!
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Also evidently the Note 7 wont ship with Android N. just 6.0.1. These are all rumors or so called leaks but....hope it releases with flat screen option and Android N!

The Note series rarely, if ever launches with the most up to date Android. Since they launch almost in tandem, if not slightly before/after the official Android launch. Our 910T didn't get 5.0.1 until late April of the following year.
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Bubba Fett said:
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Yeah I am willing to bet that bootloader will be locked. As compensation, it will have SD card. It will be the Note 7...big brother to the S7.
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