No magazineUX - Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General

Again samsung fail
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This is good news to me, tbh.

abdielol said:
This is good news to me, tbh.
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Excellent news
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Ok ?
Wait .. Isn't that a good thing , no bloat - ware ...
A couple of months back Samsung signed an agreement with Google that they will try to reduce the modifications to the stock Android experience
I think this is the result of that agreement.

The only 4.4 ROM out right now is for the Columbian Wi-Fi version. It could be the same ROM as for other markets or it may not be. Magazine UX is still on the N10.1-14 microsite where it first appeared after the Pro's started shipping. It may mean something or it may not.
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/2014galaxynote10.1/feature.html
If it does end up permanently missing I won't be too upset. When M-UX was first shown at CES I thought it was cool because there were a ton of widgets and you could create tiles for any installed app. In and of itself it could have been a potential alternate UI. What was released with the Pro's was completely neutered. From three home pages with one being the main home screen it's been reduced to one tagged on at the end of the traditional TW home pages. Most of the widgets left are just modular pieces of My Magazine which means it went from being a hidden pull-up to mandatorily consuming a home page that could be used for other things instead. I use all my home pages so wasn't keen on giving one up to M-UX in its current state. It's not even called Magazine UX anymore. It's now "Content Home."
There is a downside. I was kind of hoping the N10.1-14 would have been made s/w compatible with the Pro's to increase the frequency of updates received. If M-UX and other UI-based features from the Pro's have been left out we'll end up being an odd duck and 4.4 might be the last major update we see. It certainly won't help update timing, that's for sure.
Time will tell...

You really want that bloated crap? I'm glad it's not on there.
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Itchiee said:
You really want that bloated crap? I'm glad it's not on there.
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If I wanted AOSP I wouldn't have spent what I did on a tablet that has more added on top of Android than any other device on the planet. You'll find this shocking but some folks actually do use the N10.1-14 to get work done and a lot of that "bloated crap" is what makes that possible.

Actually I wasn't talking to you hammer, it was for the op.
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Itchiee said:
Actually I wasn't talking to you hammer, it was for the op.
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My bad. But this is a mixed forum. 1/3 actually use the N10.1-14 as a creation/productivity device as Samsung intended. 1/3 bought if for the high-end h/w, stripped it bare s/w wise, and I guess use it primarily for consumption and gaming. The other 1/3 are somewhere in between. What pleases one group pisses the other off. To each their own.
S Pen and s/w combined are more important to Note purchasers than the h/w. Even the Samsung brand is more important than h/w. Maybe not on XDA but for the rest of the masses that make up 95+% of Note sales. TW won't win any design awards but it does provide a level of functionality, especially on the Note's, that makes having it a positive; at least for me.
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I understand and do enjoy your posts here. I'm looking at it for what it is a Flip board home screen and do not see it being useful for most when you can have the same functionality already. Yes my tablet is a luxury device to me that I wanted but don't need. If it bums you guys out that it's missing then I apologize, but I'm glad I don't have it running...
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Itchiee said:
I understand and do enjoy your posts here. I'm looking at it for what it is a Flip board home screen and do not see it being useful for most when you can have the same functionality already. Yes my tablet is a luxury device to me that I wanted but don't need. If it bums you guys out that it's missing then I apologize, but I'm glad I don't have it running...
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Just to Add , I would love any extra software functionality as long as the "frame rate" is maintained as stock .

Itchiee said:
I understand and do enjoy your posts here. I'm looking at it for what it is a Flip board home screen and do not see it being useful for most when you can have the same functionality already. Yes my tablet is a luxury device to me that I wanted but don't need. If it bums you guys out that it's missing then I apologize, but I'm glad I don't have it running.
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We actually agree. Before M-UX got neutered I was cautiously excited. Mostly for the interactive widgets that could be potential productivity boosters and getting more content on each page. As it stands now it's just a space wasting news feed. The Pro's also lost Samsung Hub which we'll retain. Samsung's videos can be stored on external SD and played back in Pop-up-play which is great for long trips.

BarryH_GEG said:
We actually agree. Before M-UX got neutered I was cautiously excited. Mostly for the interactive widgets that could be potential productivity boosters and getting more content on each page. As it stands now it's just a space wasting news feed. The Pro's also lost Samsung Hub which we'll retain. Samsung's videos can be stored on external SD and played back in Pop-up-play which is great for long trips.
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I will pull magazineUX from a p900 rom and test it out may include as an option in next rom release. V1 due out in 13mins

hashcheck said:
I will pull magazineUX from a p900 rom and test it out may include as an option in next rom release. V1 due out in 13mins
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The version of M-UX in the N12 is crippled like described above. Here's a thread from the N12 forum that discusses what's missing along with a kind of schizophrenic discussion on how to (theoretically) get the missing components back. People in the N12 forum are trying to figure out how to disable/remove M-UX so they can get a normal home page back. The grass is always greener...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2663940

It should be switchable between normal TW UI and MagazineUX
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ps000000 said:
It should be switchable between normal TW UI and MagazineUX
(If it possible)
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if its just two different launchers and a few other apks, i dont see why not. its like how i have blinkfeed and lg home flashed on top of my nexus 5 which is also running the GEL and nova lol

I'm in the "who gives a ****" crowd. It's a bloated gimmick that'd be used one time and abandoned.

Hancom Office
The only thing I'm hoping for when the 4.4 is eleased for U.S. is the Hancom Office software. Won't loose any sleep if they exclude the Magazine UX. I had a Pro 8.4 and a Note 12.2(to big) and really didn't like it.

I have the note 12.2 and I dont use magazine ux. Actually bought nova prime finally for it. Like barry said if it had been released like it was at ces I would have loved it. But as it is it is nuetered and boring. It is still pretty sexy looking imo.
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Gingerbread SDK details

Here it is!
http://d.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html
Someone please port this to the Nexus One.
Thanks!
chetanthaker said:
Here it is!
http://d.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html
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Went to through the details there. Although there are some interesting upgrades on the developer's side, the end user side looks YAWNnnn.
If you take into consideration that it was advertised as an sizeable upgrade of the UI. Which is not.
agovinoveritas said:
Went to through the details there. Although there are some interesting upgrades on the developer's side, the end user side looks YAWNnnn.
If you take into consideration that it was advertised as an sizeable upgrade of the UI. Which is not.
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It wasn't advertised as such. That was way back when gingerbread was still 3.0.
Obviously that changed and so did most of the UI changes.
i particularly enjoy
One-touch word selection and copy/paste
When entering text or viewing a web page, the user can quickly select a word by press-hold, then copy to the clipboard and paste. Pressing on a word enters a free-selection mode — the user can adjust the selection area as needed by dragging a set of bounding arrows to new positions, then copy the bounded area by pressing anywhere in the selection area. For text entry, the user can slide-press to enter a cursor mode, then reposition the cursor easily and accurately by dragging the cursor arrow. With both the selection and cursor modes, no use of a trackball is needed.
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iphone-esque
mojonation1487 said:
It wasn't advertised as such. That was way back when gingerbread was still 3.0.
Obviously that changed and so did most of the UI changes.
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Actually it was. They made a point of it.
http://thetechjournal.com/electronics/mobile/google-works-on-gingerbread-ui.xhtml
Well, there are tons of different sites that state the same. They all come from statements made by Google, granted a while back. However once they changed it to 2.3 instead of 3.0 which was like a month ago through a tweet of all things, they never changed their stance on the UI issue. So yes, it was advertised as such, and they rode that horse, among other things, until pretty much up to the video that was released for their voice app less than week ago.
agovinoveritas said:
Actually it was. They made a point of it.
http://thetechjournal.com/electronics/mobile/google-works-on-gingerbread-ui.xhtml
Well, there are tons of different sites that state the same. They all come from statements made by Google, granted a while back. However once they changed it to 2.3 instead of 3.0 which was like a month ago through a tweet of all things, they never changed their stance on the UI issue. So yes, it was advertised as such, and they rode that horse, among other things, until pretty much up to the video that was released for their voice app less than week ago.
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ahem notice the date. was still considered 3.0 then.
sn0warmy said:
Someone please port this to the Nexus One.
Thanks!
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wow read much?
agovinoveritas said:
Actually it was. They made a point of it.
http://thetechjournal.com/electronics/mobile/google-works-on-gingerbread-ui.xhtml
Well, there are tons of different sites that state the same. They all come from statements made by Google, granted a while back. However once they changed it to 2.3 instead of 3.0 which was like a month ago through a tweet of all things, they never changed their stance on the UI issue. So yes, it was advertised as such, and they rode that horse, among other things, until pretty much up to the video that was released for their voice app less than week ago.
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All rumors.
From the first sentence in the second paragraph:
Citing multiple unnamed sources...
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Edit: Having looked at the first pictures in the link posted by OP, I can't imagine how you think those are ui improvements. It's not like they were gonna mimic sense ui or miui lol.
The user interface is refined in many ways across the system, making it easier to learn, faster to use, and more power-efficient. A simplified visual theme of colors against black brings vividness and contrast to the notification bar, menus, and other parts of the UI. Changes in menus and settings make it easier for the user to navigate and control the features of the system and device.
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This was Android 1.0:
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This was Android 2.2:
This was Android 2.3:
These are just homescreens but if you compare other areas, 1.0 to 2.2 wasn't such a big visual change but 2.2 to 2.3 is. We might just be looking at that "huge" UI change. And IMO it (or whatever it is or you want to call it) ain't that great.
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These are just homescreens but if you compare other areas, 1.0 to 2.2 wasn't such a big visual change but 2.2 to 2.3 is. We might just be looking at that "huge" UI change. And IMO it (or whatever it is or you want to call it) ain't that great.
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You don't HAVE to use it
wdfowty said:
You don't HAVE to use it
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What am I supposed to use then? A amateur made theme? I think it's okay to expect a little (a lot?) more from the creator (who is loaded with talent) of the OS itself especially since Froyo looked way better. Anyway, this type of discussion doesn't really belong in this forum so I'll stop here.
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iphone-esque
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That it is, but you have to say the iPhone cut / paste really works.
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I like it. It's still pretty basic, but the white status bar I'm glad to see go. I usually have it set to black now in CM 6.1 anyway, but it's nice that it's the standard. From previous links it looks like the pop up windows are slightly tweaked as well. It's not a huge departure form the previous versions, but it's significant. Not sure about the green icons though.
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Actually it was. They made a point of it.
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There were reports a month or so ago that the UI designer they got from Palm was still working on stuff, so the Gingerbread UI updates got pushed back.
If you want MASSIVE UI changes, MIUI is your friend
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does gingerbread allow you to stream your itunes music to your PC like they showed at Google IO or is this a later feature or do we still have to rely on 3rd party apps?
Dai323 said:
If you want MASSIVE UI changes, MIUI is your friend
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+1 for MIUI! UI overhaul.
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Dai323 said:
If you want MASSIVE UI changes, MIUI is your friend
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ditto
but i want to see features from gingerbread
To those saying that this isn't "the big UI overhaul" we've been hearing about, I don't know but it seems like Google thinks it is. As part of the Nexus S youtube introduction they highlight the "refreshed UI" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SBMrauRSX0) on a dedicated video. I'm pretty sure that this is it. Disappointing really.
I don't even care about a whole new user experience (sure some maybe some new things which I guess 2.3 does kind of brings) but realistically I just wanted it to be a visual improvement from Froyo. What I see is just a bunch of sub par design choices that destroys the original identity of Android (white, matte, simplistic design with orange highlights). 2.3 brings a lot of visual inconsistency, loud/ugly/clashing neon color combinations, black void, and a whole lot of ugliness in terms of graphic design.
Man, I just can't get over how bad the design/graphics/visuals are in 2.3.

Ice Cream Sandwich UI leaks

Earlier RootzWiki and AndroidPolice both received leaks from a "extremely reliable source" and they both obtained 2 different pictures of the new Ice Cream Sandwich interface running on the Nexus S.
You can read the whole article here:
http://venturebeat.com/2011/08/11/delicious-android-ice-cream-sandwich-images-leak-online/
Here are the leaks:
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ICS is also to include:
Brand-new launcher and app drawer, with screenshots of both featured exclusively on RootzWiki - with what appears to be a task switcher icon on the homescreen, though it could be something else.
Camera now has a panorama mode (not pictured)
Gmail has been totally re-themed to go with the new OS (not pictured)
Nexus S will be receiving ICS via update, but the "Nexus Prime" will be getting it first
Mostly UI changes - many older devices (< 1 year old) should be able to run it
Personally, I feel like these are fake. However, the AndroidPolice writers were heavily defending the credibility of their source in the comments section of the original post.
My reasons for being skeptical include:
At Google IO, they announced ICS would get a complete UI overhaul. This is the same basic layout we've been seeing for a long time.
The phone icon is the same as from eclair. A phone icon inside a sqaure, while the newest phone icon in gingerbread is just a phone with no square. Why would google use "new" icons for most of gapps but not the phone?
All the icons are the exact same ones from the Honeybread T-Mobile theme (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.gfxandroid.honeybreadtheme&feature=search_result) I'm not sure what the original source of the icons were, but I do know the same icons were "released" way before these leaks.
The signal bar icon is rotated, as is in honeycomb (a tablet thing). The honeybread theme also rotates the signal bar. I don't think google would get rid of the standard bars that's been the same on (as far as I know) every cell phone ever.
To me these just look like a gingerbread build themed with a modified build.prop.
Those are just my 2 cents as of now. There are a couple other things that just don't fit, but then again there are a couple of things that haven't been seen before. I do know that icons can just be used as placeholders when developing and that this is not nearly finished so the final product could (and hopefully) be completely different. What are your opinons?
hmmm... interesting...
why not consider it is still work in progress? at least that is what i would consider it is...
so the same kernel as Gingerbread?
I vote fake as well.
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Nexus one will not be having the ice update I guess.. google apps like google video and music and the new android market is so choppy on the nexus one..
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xzr3b0rnzx said:
Nexus one will not be having the ice update I guess.. google apps like google video and music and the new android market is so choppy on the nexus one..
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I have to disagree. I can't speak for Google video as I don't use it, but Music and the new Market work damn near flawlessly on my device
Not sure of the source of the icons? Have you heard of something called Android 3.0?
Anyway, it looks like the interface is extremely WIP graphics wise, but this definitely seems like the real deal. I just want to know what's going to happen to phones that have softkeys with this release and if ICS phones will have virtual ones as has been speculated.
Also, I feel that the nexus won't be getting an official release of this, especially with the weak GPU.
Fake--
NO real changes, I have blue items in status bar too
That is a Nexus S, this is an N1 thread--
Don't think the N1 could handle ICS--IMHO
rugmankc said:
Don't think the N1 could handle ICS--IMHO
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lolwhut?
Because you're so experienced with ICS and its requirements?
****ty posts like this are why XDA has turned in to what it is.
GldRush98 said:
lolwhut?
Because you're so experienced with ICS and its requirements?
****ty posts like this are why XDA has turned in to what it is.
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The N1 thus far has been able to handle everything even better than most phones that have come out in the past year. The custom kernels and oses for the N1 are incredible.
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****ty posts like this are why XDA has turned in to what it is.
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attacking people like this is what makes this place worse...
Everyone can have his own opinion mate....
Anyways am sure whatever changes are coming will mostly be ported out to our lovely N1 via custom roms thanks to the awesome devs around here!
If wp7 can make good use if the adreno 200, I am pretty sure google can make ics work well on the same gpu.
GldRush98 said:
lolwhut?
Because you're so experienced with ICS and its requirements?
****ty posts like this are why XDA has turned in to what it is.
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Thanks for the mature post
A better comment would have been telling me why it will and educating me not chastising me. It is only an opinion as pointed in my "IMHO" comment. I for one hope it will as I am only into 6 months of a 2 year contract with TMO. Brought the N1 to TMO from another carrier. I should have said that I didn't think it would work thru a normal OTA, but that with devs like Cyanogen, it may. Also, I don't know if anyone knows how much is being changed and if hardware will come into play. If you already know the source code enlighten us. I am no programmer, just a flasher. If this article is accurate it should work and seems to be little changed to a laymen. But, who knows yet?
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2101386/android-ice-cream-sandwich-leaked
Either way, it is my opinion at some point the N1's hardware or internal memory won't handle the newer OS's. ICS may not be that point yet. Hopefully never. We are running sense roms, thanks to folks like evil etc, but not without issues for a lot of folks. Bad blocks seem to hamper the N1 in some of these roms and the touch screen is not the best.
Another thread with varying opinions, albeit two months old--
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1137301
Either way I have thick skin and let's hope it works great
Ken
Don't know if these links have been posted before or their accuracy, but they seem to support our HOPE for ICS and talk about Nexus Prime. If this is old news sorry! Two pages.
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/compa..._nexus_one_vs_google_nexus_prime_rumours.html
If that's ics than its atrocious.
This will be the third straight dud out of Google.
I can't fathom "most work we've put into a release" and "total ui overhaul" result in that.
Seriously if that's real might as well hand over the reigns to crapple.
Quick thought,
Where it says android version, instead of sayin ICS shouldnt it say 2.4? To me it looks like somesones just recolored and renamed bits of CM7 I reckon this is fake but i guess we'll just have to wait and see
Good Point
But, maybe they haven't finalized a version number yet. Would think they would have though.
Trying to remember if GB leaks had number or said Gingerbread.
rugmankc said:
Good Point
But, maybe they haven't finalized a version number yet. Would think they would have though.
Trying to remember if GB leaks had number or said Gingerbread.
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Shouldnt be that hard to track down. Since every single android release has had "leaks". Im sure whoever did this would have done that as well (if it were fake)
Agreed, having ICS means nothing
But, all I remember on pics is 2.3--
or, the GR122 or whatever the number is. It dosen't show on the MIUI rom I am on atm. Think it does on Cyan.
Either way after further research and faith in Cyan, I think we may see ICS on the N1. Unless some new info comes out. It would be nice because GB has reached it's wow factor to me at this time.
Flashing was more exciting 6-12 months ago

**FAKE** - Android 4.2 - To Bring Project Roadrunner, blah blah blah

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Android 4.2 could be just weeks away folks, and rumors are already
starting to circle on what the Mountain View company is cooking.
But careful, this rumors come from a very trustworthy source,
so if you want to wait for Google’s keynote to see Android 4.2′s features,
we suggest you click away. But who can’t help to learn what
Google has come up with this time right?
Customization Center
OEM skins have been solved once and for all. With this feature,
OEM’s can build their skins in the Customization Center and publish them on the device,
leaving stock Android intact. The themes could have different ringtones, backgrounds, launch themes and others of the sort.
Project Roadrunner
Your battery life is about to triple. Google has been rumored to focus a lot on
battery life in this release of Android. Remember how Project Butter increased
the speed of your device and how drastic the change was? Well get ready,
because battery life is about to get an upgrade..without switching batteries of course.
Google Play
Google Play is up next, and the rumor is more features are going to be
added to the ever growing app store. New features include promotional campaign
notifications, easier in-app transactions, more billing options and more.
Google Now
If you want information then and now, Google Now will become your best friend.
But Google Now is about to get even more helpful, with the rumored features of
being able to control the brightness, turn on and off system functions and more.
Video Player
The video player for Android is pretty basic, so the rumor is that Google decided
to update to add more API’s for developers and give it a UI makeover.
Conclusion
There we have it folks, Android 4.2 laid out. Taylor from AndroidandMe’s source
has always been right on the money with other information so we would be
shocked if any of this information is wrong above.
So, who’s cooking the Key Lime Pie tonight?
Sounds too good to be true.
So you get the latest updates, without waiting.
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you still have different phones with different hardware components so no, I'm guessing you won't get latest updates without waiting.
ivan1real said:
Sounds too good to be true.
you still have different phones with different hardware components so no, I'm guessing you won't get latest updates without waiting.
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Edit thx
Yeah, I'm not buying this. Google Play, Video Player and Google Now are more like software updates and won't require a new version of the operating system (remember, this isn't Apple we are talking about). The customization thing might be true, but it won't get you the latest updates just like that since the hardware components are different with pretty much every phone, just like ivan1real said. And the triple amount of batterylife won't really happen just because of the different hardware components. There really aren't that many "magical" ways to increase the batterylife unless you know how the hardware works exactly to control the battery usage properly (and even then, it would be up to the manufacturer, not Google, to optimize their drivers).
Also, there have been hints that the next Android version would still be called Jelly Bean much like 2.0 and 2.1 were both called Eclair:
According to this article in Androidpolice.com, the Nexus phone build numbers first letter usually tell you the what the operating system's name is. For example, with Gingerbread, everything began with G, with ICS with I and now with JB with J. So, if the Android 4.2's build numbers also start with J, it couldn't be called Key Lime Pie.
Perhaps request a mod to sticky this. This is sure to stir up some posts and seems like a good thread to use. Great job on the OP though..it's a good intro and nicely done!
Oh and you should link the source. You mention the source but no link??
Coreym said:
Perhaps request a mod to sticky this. This is sure to stir up some posts and seems like a good thread to use. Great job on the OP though..it's a good intro and nicely done!
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I'll do that, thank you, hope it's helpful for you
Send from R2D2
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I'll do that, thank you, hope it's helpful for you
Send from R2D2
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Well.. I'm just thinking it may be helpful to have 1 place for all the rumors and bs. I know it would take a miracle for there not to be anymore nonsense threads about Key Lime Pie coming soon but... and since the OP is done well, and not just a simple sentence... why not
i like the customization center part than the rest of the stuffs...
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i like the customization center part than the rest of the stuffs...
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+1, has the potential to be huge. I hope manufacturers can get the updates out a helluva lot quicker. Love the sound of road runner too. Seems too good to be true tbh
Roadrunner, the only thing android really needs.
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Project Roadrunner seems interesting.
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Roadrunner is interesting.......but it's a shame Samsung will take all the improvements, as usual, and mess them up with TW.
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Project Roadrunner seems interesting.
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Agreed. Trippled the battery life
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Haven't seen any wow feature they should improve video calling quality like facetime rite now its ****
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Haven't seen any wow feature they should improve video calling quality like facetime rite now its ****
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You sure you are talking about Android? Seems like you are confused between iOS6 and KLP...
Sounds unlikely. With so few devices on jellybean, it's unlikely that android 4.2 will be released this year. Besides, there's usually only one major android update a year.
like project butter, i forsee roadrunner would only work well on nexus hardware and screw up on other hardware chipsets especially sammy's closed sourced exynos...
Haha. Project Roadrunner. Now that's one thing crapwiz wont take part of.
Well, given Sammy screw ups, maybe Sammy will rename their version project Wile E. Coyote
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Yeeeeeeeah, the OP copied this from Android Police. You guys should really start using Google+!!!
Saw this posted a long time ago. *puts on hipster glasses*
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Here, guys. Go to this website and read EVERYTHING yourself. New Nexii from Samsung, LG, and Motorola. Android 4.2. Upcoming stuff, blah, blah, blah.
www.androidpolice.com

The Sony Xperia Tablet Z - EISA Award Winner

Here's something to further boost our kiddie egos and bragging rights :victory: - It comes as no surprise to me really that the exquisite Sony XTZ is EISA's pick for the European Tablet of the Year 2013 - 2014. So happy I went with Sony on this one
Hit the link for the short run down: http://www.eisa.eu/award/31/european-tablet-2013-2014.html:cool:
Tell me this doesn't make you that much prouder to be an SXTZ owner :highfive:
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Its a good Android tablet. For a time at least, lol.
I do agree that given the weight and size its a marvel of technology considering the performance and quality of construction.
Sony appear to be moving in the right direction, lets hope this trend continues.
Even if it is the winner, i don't see any real developer here, the development section is dead, i mean like dead in dead. Nothing new is happening there. I don't know why.... God dammit developers build some kernels, roms
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Even if it is the winner, i don't see any real developer here, the development section is dead, i mean like dead in dead. Nothing new is happening there. I don't know why.... God dammit developers build some kernels, roms
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Have to agree about it being dead around here. There was some activity at first when there a was a prize on offer...but since then, dead
I must admit I knew that if I wanted loads of development I should have bought the Nexus 10. Buying the SXTZ came with the risk of little or no development...and that risk has turned into reality.
On the other hand, the stock ROM is pretty good and at the moment going to a custom ROM means you'll lose more useful features than you gain.
All I really want on top of stock is Nova launcher and PIE/LTA so I can lose all the navigation/notification/status bars. That's why I've gone to PAC.
But I've lost my warranty, GPS, DRM keys, HDMI out, being able to charge with tablet off, and a few other things.
I sometimes wish I'd bought the Nexus 10...but I'm telling myself I've got to kick the ROM-flashing habit.
Oh well, at least I've got my Nexus 4 to keep me occupied
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Have to agree about it being dead around here. There was some activity at first when there a was a prize on offer...but since then, dead
I must admit I knew that if I wanted loads of development I should have bought the Nexus 10. Buying the SXTZ came with the risk of little or no development...and that risk has turned into reality.
On the other hand, the stock ROM is pretty good and at the moment going to a custom ROM means you'll lose more useful features than you gain.
All I really want on top of stock is Nova launcher and PIE/LTA so I can lose all the navigation/notification/status bars. That's why I've gone to PAC.
But I've lost my warranty, GPS, DRM keys, HDMI out, being able to charge with tablet off, and a few other things.
I sometimes wish I'd bought the Nexus 10...but I'm telling myself I've got to kick the ROM-flashing habit.
Oh well, at least I've got my Nexus 4 to keep me occupied
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Well, i know Sony products are not so popular among the developers, but than again this one in my opinion is among the best tablets, so it should have been better. Oh well maybe it is due to something like price, or something else.
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Well, i know Sony products are not so popular among the developers, but than again this one in my opinion is among the best tablets, so it should have been better. Oh well maybe it is due to something like price, or something else.
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Don't look now, but TechRadar seems to share the same views as us. They also gave the SXTZ top honors as 2013's tablet: http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/tablets/10-best-tablet-pcs-in-the-world-today-1079603
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Well, i know Sony products are not so popular among the developers, but than again this one in my opinion is among the best tablets, so it should have been better. Oh well maybe it is due to something like price, or something else.
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I just don't comprehend why Sony products are favored by developers.... Sony offers so very much better support than other OEMs, like Samsung and HTC, and send updates ,such faster than other OEMs as well. It seems like Sony would/should be a developer favorite, the only thing I can think of is that no major Sony flagship smartphones are carried by the major US carriers, AT&T and T-Mobile have carried 1 or 2 but Verizon hasn't had one since the Play, but there should still be more development.
The price tag is another thing hindering development but not much, the other tablets I was looking at before I purchased the XTZ offered much less for the same amount or more, really the price is not too bad when you think about it. The LTE model is overpriced, $900 in the US when I bout my WiFi model, but I would guess the reason for that would be to deter people from buying it off contract. If money is the issue there have still been major amounts of development on phones and tablets with the same, or higher, price tag, I paid less for my XTZ than my Note 2 or any other phone I've bought in the past few years, so there has to be something I am missing.
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I just don't comprehend why Sony products are favored by developers....
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I think you mean " I just don't comprehend why Sony products are not favored by developers...."

[Discussion] what do you think about the Note 12.2 ?

as the title says give in your oppenion
I think the screen estate is awesome and the specs are good 2 unlike the previous tablets
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as the title says give in your oppenion
I think the screen estate is awesome and the specs are good 2 unlike the previous tablets
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The screen is awesome, and so are the specs..However, I am on two wheels 90% of the time. Size and weight are biggies with me.
Right now I am still within my return period on my GN 2014, along with my tax refund to take up the difference. I was going to snatch the 64gb one... But, after looking at the size, compared it to my 10.1, it is just too much..I travel very light on two wheels. Either on motorcycle or bicycle, space is premium.
Now, if they came with another 10.1 pro, I be on it, especially since I am in my return window..
Again, this thing is too big..
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The screen is awesome, and so are the specs..However, I am on two wheels 90% of the time. Size and weight are biggies with me.
Right now I am still within my return period on my GN 2014, along with my tax refund to take up the difference. I was going to snatch the 64gb one... But, after looking at the size, compared it to my 10.1, it is just too much..I travel very light on two wheels. Either on motorcycle or bicycle, space is premium.
Now, if they came with another 10.1 pro, I be on it, especially since I am in my return window..
Again, this thing is too big..
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I think the weight doesn't matter and as long as u have a nice bag for it neither does size I don't think I ever heard someone saying hey I wish my tablet was 100g lighter plus the screen size just makes up for all of this
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I am actually excited for this one i think they had some leak pics up on CNET
looks nice!
As a math teacher this looks like a great teaching tool for notes and lessons!
Same here... in my profession... I definitely need this. but I prefer the LTE version Screen size for me is the best.
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First impressions
Well, I've had my 32gb WiFi Galaxy Note Pro for 2 days now.
The screen is superb. I absolutely love it.
The size looks much larger than expected, in terms of feel, than my Note 10.1 2014 - a huge difference when watching video.
I have experienced no lag at all.
The TouchWiz UX is OK - but the magazine home screen I cannot get on with. The content is too restrictive and doesn't cover my interests. Also, you cannot remove the Magazine screen - grrrr!
Also have a problem writing to the micro SDCard - see my other post.
Still early days yet but a general 'thumbs up' from me.
Yes, I really want this, but first things first.
- I need to be able to sell my Nexus 10 for a decent price before I can buy this.
- I'll not be an early adopter/unpaid beta tester. I want lots of reviews (both pro and amateur) before I make a commitment.
- I suspect this tablet will be huge with the custom ROM community. I'll wait until there's some solid ROM development going on.
Ordered mine today Unit will arrive tomorrow morning (sold my nexus 10)
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Ordered mine today Unit will arrive tomorrow morning (sold my nexus 10)
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Who is shipping already?
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Who is shipping already?
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WiFi only (Netherlands)
Company called coolbue (for the dutchies)
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I've always found the 10" tablets too small to be really useful, in particular since I've almost always had a large phone with me. Currently the GN3. 10" was too big to carry in a pocket and too small to be useful on the go. So if I'm going to have to carry it in a bag/case, might as well go with a moderately larger screen size. But not too big so as to become heavy and bulky if I want to use it on a plane, vehicle, or even couch.
With this form factor, I'm hoping it'll fit right in between my 5.7" phone and 15" notebook, depending on where I'm going and what I want to do.
Mine gets here Friday. Yay.
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WiFi only (Netherlands)
Company called coolbue (for the dutchies)
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Bought mine from BCC yesterday here in the Netherlands.
This tablet is simply amazing. The extra screen real estate makes it so much more useful. Makes you really wonder why no one else tried a larger display the last three years.
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Bought mine from BCC yesterday here in the Netherlands.
This tablet is simply amazing. The extra screen real estate makes it so much more useful. Makes you really wonder why no one else tried a larger display the last three years.
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Nice. If i had known it would be available at BCC i would have driven there
Do you notice any lag using the samsung touchwiz ?
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Nice. If i had known it would be available at BCC i would have driven there
Do you notice any lag using the samsung touchwiz ?
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Not noticeably.
Only minor annoying thing is that some elements are just to large for this display, but that's a general Android thing. I'm afraid I gonna need to tweak the density (like it's done in the good old days).
Hope it will get rooted soon so we can run custom roms bye bye UX
Almost $840 after shipping and tax from Best Buy in the States. I may be a fool for spending nearly a thousand dollars on a tablet, but at least I know I'm not the only one. .. looking forward to getting my hands on it!
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Yes, I really want this, but first things first.
- I need to be able to sell my Nexus 10 for a decent price before I can buy this.
- I'll not be an early adopter/unpaid beta tester. I want lots of reviews (both pro and amateur) before I make a commitment.
- I suspect this tablet will be huge with the custom ROM community. I'll wait until there's some solid ROM development going on.
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I suspect the opposite as its too expensive to be mainstream and its Samsung which has not been developer friendly. Do these new tabs come with Knox?
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Well I just bought one from Best Buy screen is great, monopoly is awesome on it
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For the ones who want to know... (Netherlands)
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