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Froyo Android 2.5??

So I was just reading about, Froyo 2.5 will this ever be available for the HERO or would that most likely be on the upcoming EVO?
I was reading about some of the features including the "Portable App Engine"
Using the new Portable App Engine, Android will now be able to run Palm Pre and iPhone applications using a virtual machine.
While the Pre only has about 2,000 applications, Apple’s iPhone is currently the industry leader with 150,000+. iPhone’s best games are very desirable to non-iPhone owners, for example, as they generally offer superior graphics and level of gameplay, that is, until Froyo comes out.
Portable App Engine is a "20%" project started by 2 Google engineers – Joseph Smarr and Ikai Lan – and got its name from Google’s flagship App Engine.
Google is notorious for allowing their engineers to work 20% of their time (1 day a week) developing their own ideas and releasing the most ingenious ones to the public. For example, Gmail, Google News, Orkut, Google Talk, and Google Sky Map were all "20%" projects
Any news When this is becoming available? Or if there is any dev out there with and leaks?

Seriously? We dont even have 2.1 yet. What makes you think 2.5 will be out any time soon??

Wasnt this an April fools joke?

I think the Hero will get FroYo eventually, like 8 months after every other phone does. By then, I will be at least two handsets away from the Hero.
I do happen to have a few Google engineers on speed dial though, let me give them a ring.
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were getting 2.1 we know that, I was just reading about 2.5. I dont think its a joke type in Android 2.5 in google and I was just reading some facts about it and it seems insane that you could run ALL the apps from the iPhone and from the Palm Pre

Darkshneider said:
Wasnt this an April fools joke?
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Yes the Portable app Engine was for April Fools.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...d-2-5-froyo-rom-and-upcoming-features-leaked/

Yeah, thats what I thought.

that sucks!!! lol that sounded pretty DAMN cool thing to be able to do that lol

Lmao, I almost feel bad for not putting up a "this is an April fools joke" note on that page. Almost.

check out this ... android 2.5's Portable App Engine is not a April fool!!!
check this:mobi-solutions.blogspot.com/2010/04/two-powerful-blasts-of-excitements-real.html

FroYo = Android 2.2 not 2.5. It really doesn't matter.
Our phones probably won't handle the app engine any way since everything seems to be going snapdragon. I would like to see a Android Tegra phone my self. but thats besides the point.

wouldnt a virtual app engine running iphone apps somehow be illegal? i dont think apple would let that happen.
that link you posted seemed pretty bogus to me.

also, everyone is aware apple released the sdk for the ipad, right?
aint no stoppin the jockin

mountaindont said:
wouldnt a virtual app engine running iphone apps somehow be illegal? i dont think apple would let that happen.
that link you posted seemed pretty bogus to me.
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It was an April Fools joke...

danknee said:
It was an April Fools joke...
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i am fully aware of this, topeka thought theyd be funny.

danknee said:
It was an April Fools joke...
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i cant stop watching your dancing android
make him to the mocarena(sp?)!!!!!

Kcarpenter said:
FroYo = Android 2.2 not 2.5. It really doesn't matter.
Our phones probably won't handle the app engine any way since everything seems to be going snapdragon. I would like to see a Android Tegra phone my self. but thats besides the point.
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You, sir, are correct. I've heard from reliable sources that 2.2 is in it's testing stage. Also, someone posted pictures on 4chan of a HTC Magic running Froyo.
I'd normally be very skeptical about anything I hear on 4chan, but these look legit. From what I've read, they're going to slow Android core updates to a crawl now that the OS has reached maturity. They are going to put all the Google apps in the market starting with this release. (ie Dialer, Music, Youtube, Gmail etc etc) That'll allow them to update those components individually so people using certain devices won't get stuck using old software for an unreasonable amount of time. *cough*
This'll help reduce the fragmentation issues that have plagued the platform from the get-go.

illogic6 said:
You, sir, are correct. I've heard from reliable sources that 2.2 is in it's testing stage. Also, someone posted pictures on 4chan of a HTC Magic running Froyo.
I'd normally be very skeptical about anything I hear on 4chan, but those look legit.
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I saw these pictures, but never really realized they where from a Magic. Looks like we could possibly run 2.2, but again that portable app engine seems like it wouldn't work well on our phones. Java's mantra of "Write once, run anywhere" doesn't take in to affect the performance of the host machine. Google could prove me wrong, they have before.

What's the download?
OK... so I went to the android police site about froyo. It absolutely sounds way out there, but what is the download they're linking to? Anyone download it to see what it is? I'm kinda scared to thinking that it'll pop up a virus or something but I don't think android police would do that. Would they? Anyone try it?

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OK... so I went to the android police site about froyo. It absolutely sounds way out there, but what is the download they're linking to? Anyone download it to see what it is? I'm kinda scared to thinking that it'll pop up a virus or something but I don't think android police would do that. Would they? Anyone try it?
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It has been tried. Haykuro uploaded it as an April Fool's joke if I remember correctly. I've downloaded it and it looked to be an 80mb junk file.

Android Ice Cream Already in the Works for Summer Release

wtf.
http://pocketnow.com/android/rumor-android-24-ice-cream-arriving-in-early-summer
discuss.

TorxT3D said:
wtf.
http://pocketnow.com/android/rumor-android-24-ice-cream-arriving-in-early-summer
discuss.
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Probably just the name that Google is giving for the "phone version of Honeycomb".
..and what's so WTF about it? Google usually releases two major updates a year. Once in the Spring/Summer and one in the Winter. Business as usual. Only now they have a tablet version with it's own schedule.

I'll stick with gingerbread till jellybean comes out

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BREAKING NEWS: Android "Jello" already in development for an October release. Android users everywhere are stunned!

drmacinyasha said:
BREAKING NEWS: Android "Jello" already in development for an October release. Android users everywhere are stunned!
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can they name it after a trademarked copyrighted product?

NewZJ said:
can they name it after a trademarked copyrighted product?
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"Jello" is a generic term. "Jell-O" is a brand name.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Jello

This thread is making me hungry!
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NewZJ said:
can they name it after a trademarked copyrighted product?
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Naw, they made green jello change their namer to green jelly awhile back
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drmacinyasha said:
"Jello" is a generic term. "Jell-O" is a brand name.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Jello
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The generic term is gelatin....
Your wikipedia link doesn't even go anywhere, instead it suggests places, like the Jell-o page.....
Jello however has become a genericized brand synonymous with gelatins, much like people often refer to all tissues as "kleenex"

Only Google can have a bunch of people debating about the validity of words pertaining to food and copyrights.

There's always room for jello

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Your wikipedia link doesn't even go anywhere, instead it suggests places, like the Jell-o page.....
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Lemme quote the important part, with some emphasis:
Jello may refer to:
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Jell-O, a brand name for gelatin desserts
A genericized brand for gelatin desserts in general
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deathsled said:
Jello however has become a genericized brand synonymous with gelatins, much like people often refer to all tissues as "kleenex"
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Quoth the raven, "TISTHEPOINT"

Tired of these rumors. Ever since the word of froyo coming out everyone was saying oh its a tablet only release. Get off that crap. Sure google would be smart enough to call it gingerbread 2.4t or 3.0t which ever it is. T for tablet if need be. It wouldn't be wise nor make sense to make device specific OS upgrades.
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xHausx said:
Naw, they made green jello change their namer to green jelly awhile back
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.. now i have to go listen to them...it's been a long time.

mbaseball3 said:
Tired of these rumors. Ever since the word of froyo coming out everyone was saying oh its a tablet only release. Get off that crap. Sure google would be smart enough to call it gingerbread 2.4t or 3.0t which ever it is. T for tablet if need be. It wouldn't be wise nor make sense to make device specific OS upgrades.
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Why wouldn't it make sense? Phones and tablets should require different approaches; or do you just want a phone OS to be lazily scaled up to a tablet? Im sure that a lot or most of the elements of honeycomb will be seen on phones but don't expect all. Besides that, its just names and both are made from the same core.
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Award Tour said:
Why wouldn't it make sense? Phones and tablets should require different approaches; or do you just want a phone OS to be lazily scaled up to a tablet? Im sure that a lot or most of the elements of honeycomb will be seen on phones but don't expect all. Besides that, its just names and both are made from the same core.
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Ah-hem. iOS.

makes sense as it appears that there is going to be separate software for the tablets and the phones, a principal that i agree with. Tougher on dev's i would imagine but better for consumers which in the end with more adoption potentially would be a larger install base
TorxT3D said:
wtf.
http://pocketnow.com/android/rumor-android-24-ice-cream-arriving-in-early-summer
discuss.
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Ah-hem. iOS.
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You do realize that iOS is why I said that, right? Who wants another phone OS scaled up to a tablet. It should take advantage of the form factor and hardware.

they need to make a bigger jump. these little jumps from 2.1 to 2.2 to 2.3 to 2.4 are retarded. causes even more defragmentation. Should wait and add more functions and upgrades to it, and release them at least 1-2 years apart. Whats the point of updating the ui without actually making it faster and adding some more functions to it.

Have you tried gingerbread? I get better battery life speed is much improved easily go through a day with heavy use
I can't imagine getting an update every 2 years or even 1 fragmentation ia only occurring because manufactures are to lazy to update and take their time google doesn't have hardware limitations so it can be updated like the g1 it runs froyo well
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Ice Cream Sandwich UI leaks

Earlier RootzWiki and AndroidPolice both received leaks from a "extremely reliable source" and they both obtained 2 different pictures of the new Ice Cream Sandwich interface running on the Nexus S.
You can read the whole article here:
http://venturebeat.com/2011/08/11/delicious-android-ice-cream-sandwich-images-leak-online/
Here are the leaks:
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ICS is also to include:
Brand-new launcher and app drawer, with screenshots of both featured exclusively on RootzWiki - with what appears to be a task switcher icon on the homescreen, though it could be something else.
Camera now has a panorama mode (not pictured)
Gmail has been totally re-themed to go with the new OS (not pictured)
Nexus S will be receiving ICS via update, but the "Nexus Prime" will be getting it first
Mostly UI changes - many older devices (< 1 year old) should be able to run it
Personally, I feel like these are fake. However, the AndroidPolice writers were heavily defending the credibility of their source in the comments section of the original post.
My reasons for being skeptical include:
At Google IO, they announced ICS would get a complete UI overhaul. This is the same basic layout we've been seeing for a long time.
The phone icon is the same as from eclair. A phone icon inside a sqaure, while the newest phone icon in gingerbread is just a phone with no square. Why would google use "new" icons for most of gapps but not the phone?
All the icons are the exact same ones from the Honeybread T-Mobile theme (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.gfxandroid.honeybreadtheme&feature=search_result) I'm not sure what the original source of the icons were, but I do know the same icons were "released" way before these leaks.
The signal bar icon is rotated, as is in honeycomb (a tablet thing). The honeybread theme also rotates the signal bar. I don't think google would get rid of the standard bars that's been the same on (as far as I know) every cell phone ever.
To me these just look like a gingerbread build themed with a modified build.prop.
Those are just my 2 cents as of now. There are a couple other things that just don't fit, but then again there are a couple of things that haven't been seen before. I do know that icons can just be used as placeholders when developing and that this is not nearly finished so the final product could (and hopefully) be completely different. What are your opinons?

hmmm... interesting...

why not consider it is still work in progress? at least that is what i would consider it is...

so the same kernel as Gingerbread?

I vote fake as well.
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Nexus one will not be having the ice update I guess.. google apps like google video and music and the new android market is so choppy on the nexus one..
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Nexus one will not be having the ice update I guess.. google apps like google video and music and the new android market is so choppy on the nexus one..
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I have to disagree. I can't speak for Google video as I don't use it, but Music and the new Market work damn near flawlessly on my device

Not sure of the source of the icons? Have you heard of something called Android 3.0?
Anyway, it looks like the interface is extremely WIP graphics wise, but this definitely seems like the real deal. I just want to know what's going to happen to phones that have softkeys with this release and if ICS phones will have virtual ones as has been speculated.
Also, I feel that the nexus won't be getting an official release of this, especially with the weak GPU.

Fake--
NO real changes, I have blue items in status bar too
That is a Nexus S, this is an N1 thread--
Don't think the N1 could handle ICS--IMHO

rugmankc said:
Don't think the N1 could handle ICS--IMHO
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lolwhut?
Because you're so experienced with ICS and its requirements?
****ty posts like this are why XDA has turned in to what it is.

GldRush98 said:
lolwhut?
Because you're so experienced with ICS and its requirements?
****ty posts like this are why XDA has turned in to what it is.
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The N1 thus far has been able to handle everything even better than most phones that have come out in the past year. The custom kernels and oses for the N1 are incredible.

GldRush98 said:
****ty posts like this are why XDA has turned in to what it is.
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attacking people like this is what makes this place worse...
Everyone can have his own opinion mate....
Anyways am sure whatever changes are coming will mostly be ported out to our lovely N1 via custom roms thanks to the awesome devs around here!

If wp7 can make good use if the adreno 200, I am pretty sure google can make ics work well on the same gpu.

GldRush98 said:
lolwhut?
Because you're so experienced with ICS and its requirements?
****ty posts like this are why XDA has turned in to what it is.
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Thanks for the mature post
A better comment would have been telling me why it will and educating me not chastising me. It is only an opinion as pointed in my "IMHO" comment. I for one hope it will as I am only into 6 months of a 2 year contract with TMO. Brought the N1 to TMO from another carrier. I should have said that I didn't think it would work thru a normal OTA, but that with devs like Cyanogen, it may. Also, I don't know if anyone knows how much is being changed and if hardware will come into play. If you already know the source code enlighten us. I am no programmer, just a flasher. If this article is accurate it should work and seems to be little changed to a laymen. But, who knows yet?
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2101386/android-ice-cream-sandwich-leaked
Either way, it is my opinion at some point the N1's hardware or internal memory won't handle the newer OS's. ICS may not be that point yet. Hopefully never. We are running sense roms, thanks to folks like evil etc, but not without issues for a lot of folks. Bad blocks seem to hamper the N1 in some of these roms and the touch screen is not the best.
Another thread with varying opinions, albeit two months old--
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1137301
Either way I have thick skin and let's hope it works great
Ken

Don't know if these links have been posted before or their accuracy, but they seem to support our HOPE for ICS and talk about Nexus Prime. If this is old news sorry! Two pages.
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/compa..._nexus_one_vs_google_nexus_prime_rumours.html

If that's ics than its atrocious.
This will be the third straight dud out of Google.
I can't fathom "most work we've put into a release" and "total ui overhaul" result in that.
Seriously if that's real might as well hand over the reigns to crapple.

Quick thought,
Where it says android version, instead of sayin ICS shouldnt it say 2.4? To me it looks like somesones just recolored and renamed bits of CM7 I reckon this is fake but i guess we'll just have to wait and see

Good Point
But, maybe they haven't finalized a version number yet. Would think they would have though.
Trying to remember if GB leaks had number or said Gingerbread.

rugmankc said:
Good Point
But, maybe they haven't finalized a version number yet. Would think they would have though.
Trying to remember if GB leaks had number or said Gingerbread.
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Shouldnt be that hard to track down. Since every single android release has had "leaks". Im sure whoever did this would have done that as well (if it were fake)

Agreed, having ICS means nothing
But, all I remember on pics is 2.3--
or, the GR122 or whatever the number is. It dosen't show on the MIUI rom I am on atm. Think it does on Cyan.
Either way after further research and faith in Cyan, I think we may see ICS on the N1. Unless some new info comes out. It would be nice because GB has reached it's wow factor to me at this time.
Flashing was more exciting 6-12 months ago

Android 4.4 kitkat your expectations and thoughts

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With the next Android release being revealed as 4.4 kitkat what do you think they have done with it and how long do you think we gotta wait to get our hands on it
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Its better to wait and be suprised rather than speculate and be dissapointed

I love the new the name but the fact that it'd 4.4 I expect little change to the ui.
There can only be one, the chosen ONE.

Found this
From what ive read and what i think is that its mostly going to be lighter and more optimized version but the fact that they are using a big name brand like kitkat leads me to believe that they may have more behind the curtains in this release why else would they put kitkat on it its a pretty big move if it is in fact a small update as they do have 5.0 in the corner waiting to be released hopefully near the end of this year possibly near Christmas we shall see
I found this has some good stuff
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/5034...veals-android-4-kitkat-os-11.htm#.UioqWMacerE

The name is really bugging me... Having a registered product name (Kit-Kat) as an open-source software build name seems odd to me.
I'm thinking they had to pay to use it, and again... that seems very weird.
Did they do this so they can plug the Play Store codes on the candy? It would have sat better with me if they just made a seperate marketing decision to team with Hershey (Nestle world-wide) to put marketing on the products and keep Key Lime as the name. It just seems like a very sell-out move in my blunt opinion. Does either company really need the boost in sales?
ANYWAYS... I'm really hoping more tweaks for smoothness in Project Butter, and maybe software support for some of the features found on the Moto X (Google Now, Camera Launch). I know it's purely reliant on the chip, but still :silly:

Liskrig said:
The name is really bugging me... Having a registered product name (Kit-Kat) as an open-source software build name seems odd to me.
I'm thinking they had to pay to use it, and again... that seems very weird.
Did they do this so they can plug the Play Store codes on the candy? It would have sat better with me if they just made a seperate marketing decision to team with Hershey (Nestle world-wide) to put marketing on the products and keep Key Lime as the name. It just seems like a very sell-out move in my blunt opinion. Does either company really need the boost in sales?
ANYWAYS... I'm really hoping more tweaks for smoothness in Project Butter, and maybe software support for some of the features found on the Moto X (Google Now, Camera Launch). I know it's purely reliant on the chip, but still :silly:
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They've already stated there was no money exchanged. It was for fun. What does it matter what the name is? Tired of people letting this bother them.
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Liskrig said:
The name is really bugging me... Having a registered product name (Kit-Kat) as an open-source software build name seems odd to me.
I'm thinking they had to pay to use it, and again... that seems very weird.
Did they do this so they can plug the Play Store codes on the candy? It would have sat better with me if they just made a seperate marketing decision to team with Hershey (Nestle world-wide) to put marketing on the products and keep Key Lime as the name. It just seems like a very sell-out move in my blunt opinion. Does either company really need the boost in sales?
ANYWAYS... I'm really hoping more tweaks for smoothness in Project Butter, and maybe software support for some of the features found on the Moto X (Google Now, Camera Launch). I know it's purely reliant on the chip, but still :silly:
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I agree it is an interesting move on googles part to team up with them on this and why on 4.4 why not wait to do so if they were going to do it why not on 5.0? Anyways its done and as for smothnes im sure they have added more buttery goodness to it
if you havent seen the commercial here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFT2vYsf1PM

Masterloki666 said:
I agree it is an interesting move on googles part to team up with them on this and why on 4.4 why not wait to do so if they were going to do it why not on 5.0? Anyways its done and as for smothnes im sure they have added more buttery goodness to it
if you havent seen the commercial here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFT2vYsf1PM
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I'm not really looking forward to how "smooth" it's going to be. It's stable enough now for general use. I'm looking for optimizations and efficiency in longevity. I want better management efficiency with processes that utilize energy.

I'm just glad it's named after a product I've actually eaten (and was created in Yorkshire England lol)
I have never eaten a Jellybean an Ice cream sandwich and had no clue what a key lime pie was.

monkeypaws said:
They've already stated there was no money exchanged. It was for fun. What does it matter what the name is? Tired of people letting this bother them.
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I didn't realize there was no money exchanged, my apologies.
It's just a matter of the inconsistency that bothers me, not so much the actual name.

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet
I'm glad they went with Kit Kat, at least that rolls off the tounge alittle easier

Is this Google making fun of their own ecosystem? Kit Kat breaks apart just like Android's fragmentation?
;P

I have eaten a kitkat 25 or 30 years ago, I can remember it as pretty disgusting, just a little bit better than mars or raiders with out that disgustingly sweet and sticky caramel. I have never eaten klp but it sounds tastier, more refreshing, nice and limey... Anyway kk or klp, they are just names, I don't care too much even though now I still remember the disgusting taste of kk.
Any what can we expect? A finer grained permissions system, like already hidden in 4.3 and hopefully even more software optimizations, more untying of features from the os into play services

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I have eaten a kitkat 25 or 30 years ago, I can remember it as pretty disgusting, just a little bit better than mars or raiders with out that disgustingly sweet and sticky caramel. I have never eaten klp but it sounds tastier, more refreshing, nice and limey... Anyway kk or klp, they are just names, I don't care too much even though now I still remember the disgusting taste of kk.
Any what can we expect? A finer grained permissions system, like already hidden in 4.3 and hopefully even more software optimizations, more untying of features from the os into play services
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well names that keep my hungry all the times...
but the new name in connection with the chocolate picture of the android ... great

Much better performance/snapiness and polished apps!
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Much better performance/snapiness and polished apps!
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Holy crap! Are you Kurt Cobain???

I love the name. They always name the names after nasty stuff. Key lime pie??+!!! Really that's the nastiest desert I can think of. Jelly bean gross, ice cream sandwich ok I love ice cream, honeycomb this was the perfect name. It says in android.com/developers that a lot of people never even tried key lime pie so they were trying to use a name that people had tried and lived just turned out to be kit Kat.
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sky_fox said:
I love the name. They always name the names after nasty stuff. Key lime pie??+!!! Really that's the nastiest desert I can think of. Jelly bean gross, ice cream sandwich ok I love ice cream, honeycomb this was the perfect name. It says in android.com/developers that a lot of people never even tried key lime pie so they were trying to use a name that people had tried and lived just turned out to be kit Kat.
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i wish it was m&ms or hersheys or even snickers

I hope they finally unlock App Ops:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.appaholics.applauncher&hl=en

No magazineUX

Again samsung fail
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This is good news to me, tbh.

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This is good news to me, tbh.
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Excellent news
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Ok ?
Wait .. Isn't that a good thing , no bloat - ware ...
A couple of months back Samsung signed an agreement with Google that they will try to reduce the modifications to the stock Android experience
I think this is the result of that agreement.

The only 4.4 ROM out right now is for the Columbian Wi-Fi version. It could be the same ROM as for other markets or it may not be. Magazine UX is still on the N10.1-14 microsite where it first appeared after the Pro's started shipping. It may mean something or it may not.
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/2014galaxynote10.1/feature.html
If it does end up permanently missing I won't be too upset. When M-UX was first shown at CES I thought it was cool because there were a ton of widgets and you could create tiles for any installed app. In and of itself it could have been a potential alternate UI. What was released with the Pro's was completely neutered. From three home pages with one being the main home screen it's been reduced to one tagged on at the end of the traditional TW home pages. Most of the widgets left are just modular pieces of My Magazine which means it went from being a hidden pull-up to mandatorily consuming a home page that could be used for other things instead. I use all my home pages so wasn't keen on giving one up to M-UX in its current state. It's not even called Magazine UX anymore. It's now "Content Home."
There is a downside. I was kind of hoping the N10.1-14 would have been made s/w compatible with the Pro's to increase the frequency of updates received. If M-UX and other UI-based features from the Pro's have been left out we'll end up being an odd duck and 4.4 might be the last major update we see. It certainly won't help update timing, that's for sure.
Time will tell...

You really want that bloated crap? I'm glad it's not on there.
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You really want that bloated crap? I'm glad it's not on there.
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If I wanted AOSP I wouldn't have spent what I did on a tablet that has more added on top of Android than any other device on the planet. You'll find this shocking but some folks actually do use the N10.1-14 to get work done and a lot of that "bloated crap" is what makes that possible.

Actually I wasn't talking to you hammer, it was for the op.
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Actually I wasn't talking to you hammer, it was for the op.
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My bad. But this is a mixed forum. 1/3 actually use the N10.1-14 as a creation/productivity device as Samsung intended. 1/3 bought if for the high-end h/w, stripped it bare s/w wise, and I guess use it primarily for consumption and gaming. The other 1/3 are somewhere in between. What pleases one group pisses the other off. To each their own.
S Pen and s/w combined are more important to Note purchasers than the h/w. Even the Samsung brand is more important than h/w. Maybe not on XDA but for the rest of the masses that make up 95+% of Note sales. TW won't win any design awards but it does provide a level of functionality, especially on the Note's, that makes having it a positive; at least for me.
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I understand and do enjoy your posts here. I'm looking at it for what it is a Flip board home screen and do not see it being useful for most when you can have the same functionality already. Yes my tablet is a luxury device to me that I wanted but don't need. If it bums you guys out that it's missing then I apologize, but I'm glad I don't have it running...
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I understand and do enjoy your posts here. I'm looking at it for what it is a Flip board home screen and do not see it being useful for most when you can have the same functionality already. Yes my tablet is a luxury device to me that I wanted but don't need. If it bums you guys out that it's missing then I apologize, but I'm glad I don't have it running...
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Just to Add , I would love any extra software functionality as long as the "frame rate" is maintained as stock .

Itchiee said:
I understand and do enjoy your posts here. I'm looking at it for what it is a Flip board home screen and do not see it being useful for most when you can have the same functionality already. Yes my tablet is a luxury device to me that I wanted but don't need. If it bums you guys out that it's missing then I apologize, but I'm glad I don't have it running.
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We actually agree. Before M-UX got neutered I was cautiously excited. Mostly for the interactive widgets that could be potential productivity boosters and getting more content on each page. As it stands now it's just a space wasting news feed. The Pro's also lost Samsung Hub which we'll retain. Samsung's videos can be stored on external SD and played back in Pop-up-play which is great for long trips.

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We actually agree. Before M-UX got neutered I was cautiously excited. Mostly for the interactive widgets that could be potential productivity boosters and getting more content on each page. As it stands now it's just a space wasting news feed. The Pro's also lost Samsung Hub which we'll retain. Samsung's videos can be stored on external SD and played back in Pop-up-play which is great for long trips.
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I will pull magazineUX from a p900 rom and test it out may include as an option in next rom release. V1 due out in 13mins

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I will pull magazineUX from a p900 rom and test it out may include as an option in next rom release. V1 due out in 13mins
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The version of M-UX in the N12 is crippled like described above. Here's a thread from the N12 forum that discusses what's missing along with a kind of schizophrenic discussion on how to (theoretically) get the missing components back. People in the N12 forum are trying to figure out how to disable/remove M-UX so they can get a normal home page back. The grass is always greener...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2663940

It should be switchable between normal TW UI and MagazineUX
(If it possible)

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It should be switchable between normal TW UI and MagazineUX
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if its just two different launchers and a few other apks, i dont see why not. its like how i have blinkfeed and lg home flashed on top of my nexus 5 which is also running the GEL and nova lol

I'm in the "who gives a ****" crowd. It's a bloated gimmick that'd be used one time and abandoned.

Hancom Office
The only thing I'm hoping for when the 4.4 is eleased for U.S. is the Hancom Office software. Won't loose any sleep if they exclude the Magazine UX. I had a Pro 8.4 and a Note 12.2(to big) and really didn't like it.

I have the note 12.2 and I dont use magazine ux. Actually bought nova prime finally for it. Like barry said if it had been released like it was at ces I would have loved it. But as it is it is nuetered and boring. It is still pretty sexy looking imo.
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