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With the next Android release being revealed as 4.4 kitkat what do you think they have done with it and how long do you think we gotta wait to get our hands on it
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Its better to wait and be suprised rather than speculate and be dissapointed
I love the new the name but the fact that it'd 4.4 I expect little change to the ui.
There can only be one, the chosen ONE.
Found this
From what ive read and what i think is that its mostly going to be lighter and more optimized version but the fact that they are using a big name brand like kitkat leads me to believe that they may have more behind the curtains in this release why else would they put kitkat on it its a pretty big move if it is in fact a small update as they do have 5.0 in the corner waiting to be released hopefully near the end of this year possibly near Christmas we shall see
I found this has some good stuff
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/5034...veals-android-4-kitkat-os-11.htm#.UioqWMacerE
The name is really bugging me... Having a registered product name (Kit-Kat) as an open-source software build name seems odd to me.
I'm thinking they had to pay to use it, and again... that seems very weird.
Did they do this so they can plug the Play Store codes on the candy? It would have sat better with me if they just made a seperate marketing decision to team with Hershey (Nestle world-wide) to put marketing on the products and keep Key Lime as the name. It just seems like a very sell-out move in my blunt opinion. Does either company really need the boost in sales?
ANYWAYS... I'm really hoping more tweaks for smoothness in Project Butter, and maybe software support for some of the features found on the Moto X (Google Now, Camera Launch). I know it's purely reliant on the chip, but still :silly:
Liskrig said:
The name is really bugging me... Having a registered product name (Kit-Kat) as an open-source software build name seems odd to me.
I'm thinking they had to pay to use it, and again... that seems very weird.
Did they do this so they can plug the Play Store codes on the candy? It would have sat better with me if they just made a seperate marketing decision to team with Hershey (Nestle world-wide) to put marketing on the products and keep Key Lime as the name. It just seems like a very sell-out move in my blunt opinion. Does either company really need the boost in sales?
ANYWAYS... I'm really hoping more tweaks for smoothness in Project Butter, and maybe software support for some of the features found on the Moto X (Google Now, Camera Launch). I know it's purely reliant on the chip, but still :silly:
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They've already stated there was no money exchanged. It was for fun. What does it matter what the name is? Tired of people letting this bother them.
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Liskrig said:
The name is really bugging me... Having a registered product name (Kit-Kat) as an open-source software build name seems odd to me.
I'm thinking they had to pay to use it, and again... that seems very weird.
Did they do this so they can plug the Play Store codes on the candy? It would have sat better with me if they just made a seperate marketing decision to team with Hershey (Nestle world-wide) to put marketing on the products and keep Key Lime as the name. It just seems like a very sell-out move in my blunt opinion. Does either company really need the boost in sales?
ANYWAYS... I'm really hoping more tweaks for smoothness in Project Butter, and maybe software support for some of the features found on the Moto X (Google Now, Camera Launch). I know it's purely reliant on the chip, but still :silly:
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I agree it is an interesting move on googles part to team up with them on this and why on 4.4 why not wait to do so if they were going to do it why not on 5.0? Anyways its done and as for smothnes im sure they have added more buttery goodness to it
if you havent seen the commercial here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFT2vYsf1PM
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I agree it is an interesting move on googles part to team up with them on this and why on 4.4 why not wait to do so if they were going to do it why not on 5.0? Anyways its done and as for smothnes im sure they have added more buttery goodness to it
if you havent seen the commercial here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFT2vYsf1PM
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I'm not really looking forward to how "smooth" it's going to be. It's stable enough now for general use. I'm looking for optimizations and efficiency in longevity. I want better management efficiency with processes that utilize energy.
I'm just glad it's named after a product I've actually eaten (and was created in Yorkshire England lol)
I have never eaten a Jellybean an Ice cream sandwich and had no clue what a key lime pie was.
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They've already stated there was no money exchanged. It was for fun. What does it matter what the name is? Tired of people letting this bother them.
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I didn't realize there was no money exchanged, my apologies.
It's just a matter of the inconsistency that bothers me, not so much the actual name.
A rose by any other name would smell as sweet
I'm glad they went with Kit Kat, at least that rolls off the tounge alittle easier
Is this Google making fun of their own ecosystem? Kit Kat breaks apart just like Android's fragmentation?
;P
I have eaten a kitkat 25 or 30 years ago, I can remember it as pretty disgusting, just a little bit better than mars or raiders with out that disgustingly sweet and sticky caramel. I have never eaten klp but it sounds tastier, more refreshing, nice and limey... Anyway kk or klp, they are just names, I don't care too much even though now I still remember the disgusting taste of kk.
Any what can we expect? A finer grained permissions system, like already hidden in 4.3 and hopefully even more software optimizations, more untying of features from the os into play services
Hungry
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I have eaten a kitkat 25 or 30 years ago, I can remember it as pretty disgusting, just a little bit better than mars or raiders with out that disgustingly sweet and sticky caramel. I have never eaten klp but it sounds tastier, more refreshing, nice and limey... Anyway kk or klp, they are just names, I don't care too much even though now I still remember the disgusting taste of kk.
Any what can we expect? A finer grained permissions system, like already hidden in 4.3 and hopefully even more software optimizations, more untying of features from the os into play services
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well names that keep my hungry all the times...
but the new name in connection with the chocolate picture of the android ... great
Much better performance/snapiness and polished apps!
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Much better performance/snapiness and polished apps!
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Holy crap! Are you Kurt Cobain???
I love the name. They always name the names after nasty stuff. Key lime pie??+!!! Really that's the nastiest desert I can think of. Jelly bean gross, ice cream sandwich ok I love ice cream, honeycomb this was the perfect name. It says in android.com/developers that a lot of people never even tried key lime pie so they were trying to use a name that people had tried and lived just turned out to be kit Kat.
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I love the name. They always name the names after nasty stuff. Key lime pie??+!!! Really that's the nastiest desert I can think of. Jelly bean gross, ice cream sandwich ok I love ice cream, honeycomb this was the perfect name. It says in android.com/developers that a lot of people never even tried key lime pie so they were trying to use a name that people had tried and lived just turned out to be kit Kat.
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i wish it was m&ms or hersheys or even snickers
I hope they finally unlock App Ops:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.appaholics.applauncher&hl=en
Related
Earlier RootzWiki and AndroidPolice both received leaks from a "extremely reliable source" and they both obtained 2 different pictures of the new Ice Cream Sandwich interface running on the Nexus S.
You can read the whole article here:
http://venturebeat.com/2011/08/11/delicious-android-ice-cream-sandwich-images-leak-online/
Here are the leaks:
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ICS is also to include:
Brand-new launcher and app drawer, with screenshots of both featured exclusively on RootzWiki - with what appears to be a task switcher icon on the homescreen, though it could be something else.
Camera now has a panorama mode (not pictured)
Gmail has been totally re-themed to go with the new OS (not pictured)
Nexus S will be receiving ICS via update, but the "Nexus Prime" will be getting it first
Mostly UI changes - many older devices (< 1 year old) should be able to run it
Personally, I feel like these are fake. However, the AndroidPolice writers were heavily defending the credibility of their source in the comments section of the original post.
My reasons for being skeptical include:
At Google IO, they announced ICS would get a complete UI overhaul. This is the same basic layout we've been seeing for a long time.
The phone icon is the same as from eclair. A phone icon inside a sqaure, while the newest phone icon in gingerbread is just a phone with no square. Why would google use "new" icons for most of gapps but not the phone?
All the icons are the exact same ones from the Honeybread T-Mobile theme (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.gfxandroid.honeybreadtheme&feature=search_result) I'm not sure what the original source of the icons were, but I do know the same icons were "released" way before these leaks.
The signal bar icon is rotated, as is in honeycomb (a tablet thing). The honeybread theme also rotates the signal bar. I don't think google would get rid of the standard bars that's been the same on (as far as I know) every cell phone ever.
To me these just look like a gingerbread build themed with a modified build.prop.
Those are just my 2 cents as of now. There are a couple other things that just don't fit, but then again there are a couple of things that haven't been seen before. I do know that icons can just be used as placeholders when developing and that this is not nearly finished so the final product could (and hopefully) be completely different. What are your opinons?
hmmm... interesting...
why not consider it is still work in progress? at least that is what i would consider it is...
so the same kernel as Gingerbread?
I vote fake as well.
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Nexus one will not be having the ice update I guess.. google apps like google video and music and the new android market is so choppy on the nexus one..
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Nexus one will not be having the ice update I guess.. google apps like google video and music and the new android market is so choppy on the nexus one..
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I have to disagree. I can't speak for Google video as I don't use it, but Music and the new Market work damn near flawlessly on my device
Not sure of the source of the icons? Have you heard of something called Android 3.0?
Anyway, it looks like the interface is extremely WIP graphics wise, but this definitely seems like the real deal. I just want to know what's going to happen to phones that have softkeys with this release and if ICS phones will have virtual ones as has been speculated.
Also, I feel that the nexus won't be getting an official release of this, especially with the weak GPU.
Fake--
NO real changes, I have blue items in status bar too
That is a Nexus S, this is an N1 thread--
Don't think the N1 could handle ICS--IMHO
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Don't think the N1 could handle ICS--IMHO
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lolwhut?
Because you're so experienced with ICS and its requirements?
****ty posts like this are why XDA has turned in to what it is.
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lolwhut?
Because you're so experienced with ICS and its requirements?
****ty posts like this are why XDA has turned in to what it is.
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The N1 thus far has been able to handle everything even better than most phones that have come out in the past year. The custom kernels and oses for the N1 are incredible.
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****ty posts like this are why XDA has turned in to what it is.
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attacking people like this is what makes this place worse...
Everyone can have his own opinion mate....
Anyways am sure whatever changes are coming will mostly be ported out to our lovely N1 via custom roms thanks to the awesome devs around here!
If wp7 can make good use if the adreno 200, I am pretty sure google can make ics work well on the same gpu.
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lolwhut?
Because you're so experienced with ICS and its requirements?
****ty posts like this are why XDA has turned in to what it is.
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Thanks for the mature post
A better comment would have been telling me why it will and educating me not chastising me. It is only an opinion as pointed in my "IMHO" comment. I for one hope it will as I am only into 6 months of a 2 year contract with TMO. Brought the N1 to TMO from another carrier. I should have said that I didn't think it would work thru a normal OTA, but that with devs like Cyanogen, it may. Also, I don't know if anyone knows how much is being changed and if hardware will come into play. If you already know the source code enlighten us. I am no programmer, just a flasher. If this article is accurate it should work and seems to be little changed to a laymen. But, who knows yet?
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2101386/android-ice-cream-sandwich-leaked
Either way, it is my opinion at some point the N1's hardware or internal memory won't handle the newer OS's. ICS may not be that point yet. Hopefully never. We are running sense roms, thanks to folks like evil etc, but not without issues for a lot of folks. Bad blocks seem to hamper the N1 in some of these roms and the touch screen is not the best.
Another thread with varying opinions, albeit two months old--
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1137301
Either way I have thick skin and let's hope it works great
Ken
Don't know if these links have been posted before or their accuracy, but they seem to support our HOPE for ICS and talk about Nexus Prime. If this is old news sorry! Two pages.
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/compa..._nexus_one_vs_google_nexus_prime_rumours.html
If that's ics than its atrocious.
This will be the third straight dud out of Google.
I can't fathom "most work we've put into a release" and "total ui overhaul" result in that.
Seriously if that's real might as well hand over the reigns to crapple.
Quick thought,
Where it says android version, instead of sayin ICS shouldnt it say 2.4? To me it looks like somesones just recolored and renamed bits of CM7 I reckon this is fake but i guess we'll just have to wait and see
Good Point
But, maybe they haven't finalized a version number yet. Would think they would have though.
Trying to remember if GB leaks had number or said Gingerbread.
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Good Point
But, maybe they haven't finalized a version number yet. Would think they would have though.
Trying to remember if GB leaks had number or said Gingerbread.
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Shouldnt be that hard to track down. Since every single android release has had "leaks". Im sure whoever did this would have done that as well (if it were fake)
Agreed, having ICS means nothing
But, all I remember on pics is 2.3--
or, the GR122 or whatever the number is. It dosen't show on the MIUI rom I am on atm. Think it does on Cyan.
Either way after further research and faith in Cyan, I think we may see ICS on the N1. Unless some new info comes out. It would be nice because GB has reached it's wow factor to me at this time.
Flashing was more exciting 6-12 months ago
hi all,
I went through search and did not find much about this question on my mind for this week.
its been bootloader unlocked and having gingerbread source code available.
I wonder whether atrix will get community build of ics.
i am honestly bored of f***ed up power management of android on dual cores.
i dont know what is problem here but
NVIDIA is not fixing their heating issues.
GOOGLE is not fixing up power management of android on multicore hard ware.
MOTOROLA the great we know ,is slow and lazy ass to move forward in ics for atrix.
i hate the day when i decided about buying atrix.
its bloody radiator and its heating temp. of 54celcius on normal use.
I am using cherryblur 1.4d and faux 123's optimised 1ghz kernel both latest.
i tried undervolting as well but it still heats up crazy.
I am honestly bugged with it.
may be I am totally wrong about my understanding.
i have samsung focus running mango and i prefer it for casual netbrowsing than my atrix.
I hate the NVIDIA for its heating legacy.
I swear on name of god that i wont touch anything with any kind of nvidia inside.
can we expect atrix to get better power management with ice cream sandwich which supposedly optimized for multicore processing.
I also for a brief time had both heating and battery issues with an over clocked kernel I decided to go to a kernel which was not overclocked I'm getting good battery life with no power management apps running and I never overheat anymore. Maybe ur issues can be improved with a new rom and Kernel?
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Officially? No one knows if it will get it at all or not until something leaks. Unofficially, it depends on how active the dev community gets. Short answer is, no on knows.
Also does anyone know if/when we will get Jellybean? lol
Check this out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpZ7-3ouWmQ
You're kidding right? Motorola is "slow and lazy" in regards to ICS for our Atrix ....really? You're right because ICS is NOT YET available lol.
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sounds to me like this guy just got a bad phone (hardware), it happens.
should have returned that sucker right away.
if it bothers you that much, just sell the phone, cut you loses, and get another brand.
That's just the boot animation.
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I just rated this thread one star.
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I just rated this thread one star.
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hahaha. Lol
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That's just the boot animation.
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LOL I realized that right after I posted the link!!!! LOL (sorry!)
Yes, that seems to be just the boot animation...
However I'm confident that sooner or later will get ICS through unofficial channels like XDA.
Patience is a virtue.... a virtue I don't have unfortunately.
sanriver12 said:
sounds to me like this guy just got a bad phone (hardware), it happens.
should have returned that sucker right away.
if it bothers you that much, just sell the phone, cut you loses, and get another brand.
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That's what I decided.
That is most logical choice.
rjayflo said:
You're kidding right? Motorola is "slow and lazy" in regards to ICS for our Atrix ....really? You're right because ICS is NOT YET available lol.
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Its not question of availability.have they upgraded all their androids to latest versions? I dont think so.
I know its carrier who slows down update delivery.
When company is already putting out atrix2, do you think we will get ics that easily.?
I will be happiest of lot even if they declare that they are going to upgrade ATRIX to ics.
nimixes said:
I also for a brief time had both heating and battery issues with an over clocked kernel I decided to go to a kernel which was not overclocked I'm getting good battery life with no power management apps running and I never overheat anymore. Maybe ur issues can be improved with a new rom and Kernel?
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Which rom are you using?
I will surely give it another chance .
Kindly share the rom.
My main grudge is why do they not optimize their software to get benefited out of dual core processing? ??
As I am not even remotely related to programming or anything with engineering,I understand it may take time to optimize.
but for company like Google how difficult is it to optimize their code for multicore processing???
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hahaha. Lol
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hahaha AND LOL? must have been pretty funny to have both! Redundant
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hahaha AND LOL? must have been pretty funny to have both! Redundant
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I'm glad there are rules on things like haha and lol man people sure know how to kill the internet. Thanks fun sucker
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White people problems
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White people problems
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drpratik: well... IIRC, didn't Google buy, or semi-merge with Motorola? That could help with the speed of things. Not to mention the supposed steps that are taking place in order to try to get devices up to date much more efficiently than the current pace allows.
As for optimization for dual-core phones.... you DO realize that there wasn't a SINGLE dual-core android device, let alone a phone, until the Motorola Xoom made it's debut, right? Which came out with Honeycomb... which is more than likely designed to use dual-core CPU's. There aren't really that many updates to previous Android versions shy of bug fixes when a new version of Android comes out. And seeing as ICS will be the first NEW Android OS for cell phones since Gingerbread, i'm sure we'll probably see it sooner or later... but probably sooner. Either officially, or from a modded ROM.
I do appreciate your response and that both ATRIX and XOOM run on same tegra2 platform.
I agree that optimization takes time.
But tegra 2 is out for at least 18 months.
I have high hopes for ics.what I dont like is android can't see the second core also forget utilizing.if android is not able to see also then why not throttle it down and put it into hibernate and use only when software can take benefit it.
I thought my battery is bad.I started using new battery but same result.
Back to point-- Google has bought Motorola for its patents portfolio to fight off apple attack and I will be really happy if this relationship proves fruitful for end users.
Lets hope for best.
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Android 4.2 could be just weeks away folks, and rumors are already
starting to circle on what the Mountain View company is cooking.
But careful, this rumors come from a very trustworthy source,
so if you want to wait for Google’s keynote to see Android 4.2′s features,
we suggest you click away. But who can’t help to learn what
Google has come up with this time right?
Customization Center
OEM skins have been solved once and for all. With this feature,
OEM’s can build their skins in the Customization Center and publish them on the device,
leaving stock Android intact. The themes could have different ringtones, backgrounds, launch themes and others of the sort.
Project Roadrunner
Your battery life is about to triple. Google has been rumored to focus a lot on
battery life in this release of Android. Remember how Project Butter increased
the speed of your device and how drastic the change was? Well get ready,
because battery life is about to get an upgrade..without switching batteries of course.
Google Play
Google Play is up next, and the rumor is more features are going to be
added to the ever growing app store. New features include promotional campaign
notifications, easier in-app transactions, more billing options and more.
Google Now
If you want information then and now, Google Now will become your best friend.
But Google Now is about to get even more helpful, with the rumored features of
being able to control the brightness, turn on and off system functions and more.
Video Player
The video player for Android is pretty basic, so the rumor is that Google decided
to update to add more API’s for developers and give it a UI makeover.
Conclusion
There we have it folks, Android 4.2 laid out. Taylor from AndroidandMe’s source
has always been right on the money with other information so we would be
shocked if any of this information is wrong above.
So, who’s cooking the Key Lime Pie tonight?
Sounds too good to be true.
So you get the latest updates, without waiting.
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you still have different phones with different hardware components so no, I'm guessing you won't get latest updates without waiting.
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Sounds too good to be true.
you still have different phones with different hardware components so no, I'm guessing you won't get latest updates without waiting.
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Edit thx
Yeah, I'm not buying this. Google Play, Video Player and Google Now are more like software updates and won't require a new version of the operating system (remember, this isn't Apple we are talking about). The customization thing might be true, but it won't get you the latest updates just like that since the hardware components are different with pretty much every phone, just like ivan1real said. And the triple amount of batterylife won't really happen just because of the different hardware components. There really aren't that many "magical" ways to increase the batterylife unless you know how the hardware works exactly to control the battery usage properly (and even then, it would be up to the manufacturer, not Google, to optimize their drivers).
Also, there have been hints that the next Android version would still be called Jelly Bean much like 2.0 and 2.1 were both called Eclair:
According to this article in Androidpolice.com, the Nexus phone build numbers first letter usually tell you the what the operating system's name is. For example, with Gingerbread, everything began with G, with ICS with I and now with JB with J. So, if the Android 4.2's build numbers also start with J, it couldn't be called Key Lime Pie.
Perhaps request a mod to sticky this. This is sure to stir up some posts and seems like a good thread to use. Great job on the OP though..it's a good intro and nicely done!
Oh and you should link the source. You mention the source but no link??
Coreym said:
Perhaps request a mod to sticky this. This is sure to stir up some posts and seems like a good thread to use. Great job on the OP though..it's a good intro and nicely done!
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I'll do that, thank you, hope it's helpful for you
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I'll do that, thank you, hope it's helpful for you
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Well.. I'm just thinking it may be helpful to have 1 place for all the rumors and bs. I know it would take a miracle for there not to be anymore nonsense threads about Key Lime Pie coming soon but... and since the OP is done well, and not just a simple sentence... why not
i like the customization center part than the rest of the stuffs...
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i like the customization center part than the rest of the stuffs...
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+1, has the potential to be huge. I hope manufacturers can get the updates out a helluva lot quicker. Love the sound of road runner too. Seems too good to be true tbh
Roadrunner, the only thing android really needs.
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Project Roadrunner seems interesting.
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Roadrunner is interesting.......but it's a shame Samsung will take all the improvements, as usual, and mess them up with TW.
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Project Roadrunner seems interesting.
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Agreed. Trippled the battery life
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Haven't seen any wow feature they should improve video calling quality like facetime rite now its ****
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Haven't seen any wow feature they should improve video calling quality like facetime rite now its ****
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You sure you are talking about Android? Seems like you are confused between iOS6 and KLP...
Sounds unlikely. With so few devices on jellybean, it's unlikely that android 4.2 will be released this year. Besides, there's usually only one major android update a year.
like project butter, i forsee roadrunner would only work well on nexus hardware and screw up on other hardware chipsets especially sammy's closed sourced exynos...
Haha. Project Roadrunner. Now that's one thing crapwiz wont take part of.
Well, given Sammy screw ups, maybe Sammy will rename their version project Wile E. Coyote
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Yeeeeeeeah, the OP copied this from Android Police. You guys should really start using Google+!!!
Saw this posted a long time ago. *puts on hipster glasses*
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Here, guys. Go to this website and read EVERYTHING yourself. New Nexii from Samsung, LG, and Motorola. Android 4.2. Upcoming stuff, blah, blah, blah.
www.androidpolice.com
The next version of android will be called kit kat and it will be version 4.4. What a bummer for key lime pie fans..
P. S. I love kit kat..
http://www.android.com/kitkat/
There's nothing about features yet, but we could see the new release next month. So lets start speculating.
I have one small worry though. 4.3 is expected in the coming weeks, and the Z1 goes live tomorrow, so we're now third in place for future updates. Kinda sucks don't you think?
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Sponsoring by Nestlé? Seriously? This has to be a joke.
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Take a break dude, have a kitkat
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It's even on the website of Nestlé: http://www.nestle.com/media/newsandfeatures/google-nestle-announce-android-kitkat
I'm not using those ridiculous names anyway. Android 4.0, Android 4.1, Android 4.2, etc. is much easier and shows immediately which one comes first. Android 4.1 and 4.2 even have the same name.
Kk (kitkat) as u say bro.
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LOL check out the new kitkat vid -
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The next version of android will be called kit kat and it will be version 4.4. What a bummer for key lime pie fans..
P. S. I love kit kat..
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Bummer for key lime pie fans? You mean those who like to eat the pie? because there isn't much to be fan off otherwise
My point exactly.. Fans of the treat
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LOL check out the new kitkat vid -
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lol... I cant wait till they bring out a kitkat with 3gb of Ram, or the 6.3" kitkat ultra
cue the stream of kitkat based jokes...
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My point exactly.. Fans of the treat
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Well .. only has fans in the USA i reckon
No bother to me at all, I never refer to the updates as sweets anyhoo, I'll be sticking to 4.2, 4.4 etc
So I wrote an article about 4.4 link is here
But Cliff notes
It killing time so more people can get off 2.x
Its here to appease those Nexus, AOSP, and Google edition Users hoping for a major release this year
Positive press for Nestle and Google
All because 5.0 is going to get them bad press again because its going to be too powerful rendering many devices unable to upgrade to it
"It's our goal with Android KitKat to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody."
Everybody hm...My guess is, that KK will be optimized more than we might expect. Obviously not everybody has a high end device. You CANNOT fully enjoy android 4.X on a low/mid spec phone. It gets the job done, but is nowhere near the experience you get on a high end phone. Hell, 4.X is often / laggy on quadcore phones with 2 gigs of ram. I believe that we can expect a big performance jump on every phone.
And i'd take KitKat over "key lime pie" everyday.
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And i'd take KitKat over "key lime pie" everyday.
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High-five brother :highfive::highfive::highfive::highfive::highfive:
I was wondering the same thing. Google isn't looking to make Android for performance-driven devices only. The the sucky part is that OEMs aren't going to update older phones with the new software. Mainly because the hardware is outdated and not supported, like say a TI OMAP chipset and Tegra 2. I'm pretty sure Xperia S owners are going to start cribbing about this in a few months too. Bringing Android to everyone is a forward looking statement where new devices, both low-end and high-performance, will be able to run the OS smoothly.
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High-five brother :highfive::highfive::highfive::highfive::highfive:
I was wondering the same thing. Google isn't looking to make Android for performance-driven devices only. The the sucky part is that OEMs aren't going to update older phones with the new software. Mainly because the hardware is outdated and not supported, like say a TI OMAP chipset and Tegra 2. I'm pretty sure Xperia S owners are going to start cribbing about this in a few months too. Bringing Android to everyone is a forward looking statement where new devices, both low-end and high-performance, will be able to run the OS smoothly.
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I wouldnt be sure about that. Sale of mobile phones is on its best in the first five/six months, then it decreases. Mobile phones being over 1 year old are commonly taken as sold out and you hardly get it in any mobile network offer. For SONY and other brands those phones are not money-makers and no one will provide updates for them, its not cruelty its just economy. Another aspect is that if they do so i mean update older phones they will definitely lose some clients for new ones, its like im not going to but expensive new one cause there is no difference in buying cheaper: same software, apps, other features. Economy is a keyword for updates, most of older devices are capable of running newer software enough smoothly.
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But Cliff notes
It killing time so more people can get off 2.x
Its here to appease those Nexus, AOSP, and Google edition Users hoping for a major release this year
Positive press for Nestle and Google
All because 5.0 is going to get them bad press again because its going to be too powerful rendering many devices unable to upgrade to it
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wasn't key lime pie supposed to be a leightweight? even 500mb ram phones i read in an article once.
here in my country (Chile), always existed a product called In-Kat, and it looks like the new Android OS.
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Thats what I live about the Sony threads, no-one has an idea, but everybodys talkin' gibberish
Nothing against people bringing in.ideas or such, but the bull that's going on.mostly, what a laugh
Not expecting much changes except maybe the UI and eventually a few bugs removed. It's still a version 4.x
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instead of keep improving hardware specs, they should improve the integration between os and hardware more ==
Again samsung fail
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This is good news to me, tbh.
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This is good news to me, tbh.
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Excellent news
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Ok ?
Wait .. Isn't that a good thing , no bloat - ware ...
A couple of months back Samsung signed an agreement with Google that they will try to reduce the modifications to the stock Android experience
I think this is the result of that agreement.
The only 4.4 ROM out right now is for the Columbian Wi-Fi version. It could be the same ROM as for other markets or it may not be. Magazine UX is still on the N10.1-14 microsite where it first appeared after the Pro's started shipping. It may mean something or it may not.
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/2014galaxynote10.1/feature.html
If it does end up permanently missing I won't be too upset. When M-UX was first shown at CES I thought it was cool because there were a ton of widgets and you could create tiles for any installed app. In and of itself it could have been a potential alternate UI. What was released with the Pro's was completely neutered. From three home pages with one being the main home screen it's been reduced to one tagged on at the end of the traditional TW home pages. Most of the widgets left are just modular pieces of My Magazine which means it went from being a hidden pull-up to mandatorily consuming a home page that could be used for other things instead. I use all my home pages so wasn't keen on giving one up to M-UX in its current state. It's not even called Magazine UX anymore. It's now "Content Home."
There is a downside. I was kind of hoping the N10.1-14 would have been made s/w compatible with the Pro's to increase the frequency of updates received. If M-UX and other UI-based features from the Pro's have been left out we'll end up being an odd duck and 4.4 might be the last major update we see. It certainly won't help update timing, that's for sure.
Time will tell...
You really want that bloated crap? I'm glad it's not on there.
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You really want that bloated crap? I'm glad it's not on there.
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If I wanted AOSP I wouldn't have spent what I did on a tablet that has more added on top of Android than any other device on the planet. You'll find this shocking but some folks actually do use the N10.1-14 to get work done and a lot of that "bloated crap" is what makes that possible.
Actually I wasn't talking to you hammer, it was for the op.
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Actually I wasn't talking to you hammer, it was for the op.
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My bad. But this is a mixed forum. 1/3 actually use the N10.1-14 as a creation/productivity device as Samsung intended. 1/3 bought if for the high-end h/w, stripped it bare s/w wise, and I guess use it primarily for consumption and gaming. The other 1/3 are somewhere in between. What pleases one group pisses the other off. To each their own.
S Pen and s/w combined are more important to Note purchasers than the h/w. Even the Samsung brand is more important than h/w. Maybe not on XDA but for the rest of the masses that make up 95+% of Note sales. TW won't win any design awards but it does provide a level of functionality, especially on the Note's, that makes having it a positive; at least for me.
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I understand and do enjoy your posts here. I'm looking at it for what it is a Flip board home screen and do not see it being useful for most when you can have the same functionality already. Yes my tablet is a luxury device to me that I wanted but don't need. If it bums you guys out that it's missing then I apologize, but I'm glad I don't have it running...
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I understand and do enjoy your posts here. I'm looking at it for what it is a Flip board home screen and do not see it being useful for most when you can have the same functionality already. Yes my tablet is a luxury device to me that I wanted but don't need. If it bums you guys out that it's missing then I apologize, but I'm glad I don't have it running...
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Just to Add , I would love any extra software functionality as long as the "frame rate" is maintained as stock .
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I understand and do enjoy your posts here. I'm looking at it for what it is a Flip board home screen and do not see it being useful for most when you can have the same functionality already. Yes my tablet is a luxury device to me that I wanted but don't need. If it bums you guys out that it's missing then I apologize, but I'm glad I don't have it running.
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We actually agree. Before M-UX got neutered I was cautiously excited. Mostly for the interactive widgets that could be potential productivity boosters and getting more content on each page. As it stands now it's just a space wasting news feed. The Pro's also lost Samsung Hub which we'll retain. Samsung's videos can be stored on external SD and played back in Pop-up-play which is great for long trips.
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We actually agree. Before M-UX got neutered I was cautiously excited. Mostly for the interactive widgets that could be potential productivity boosters and getting more content on each page. As it stands now it's just a space wasting news feed. The Pro's also lost Samsung Hub which we'll retain. Samsung's videos can be stored on external SD and played back in Pop-up-play which is great for long trips.
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I will pull magazineUX from a p900 rom and test it out may include as an option in next rom release. V1 due out in 13mins
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I will pull magazineUX from a p900 rom and test it out may include as an option in next rom release. V1 due out in 13mins
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The version of M-UX in the N12 is crippled like described above. Here's a thread from the N12 forum that discusses what's missing along with a kind of schizophrenic discussion on how to (theoretically) get the missing components back. People in the N12 forum are trying to figure out how to disable/remove M-UX so they can get a normal home page back. The grass is always greener...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2663940
It should be switchable between normal TW UI and MagazineUX
(If it possible)
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It should be switchable between normal TW UI and MagazineUX
(If it possible)
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if its just two different launchers and a few other apks, i dont see why not. its like how i have blinkfeed and lg home flashed on top of my nexus 5 which is also running the GEL and nova lol
I'm in the "who gives a ****" crowd. It's a bloated gimmick that'd be used one time and abandoned.
Hancom Office
The only thing I'm hoping for when the 4.4 is eleased for U.S. is the Hancom Office software. Won't loose any sleep if they exclude the Magazine UX. I had a Pro 8.4 and a Note 12.2(to big) and really didn't like it.
I have the note 12.2 and I dont use magazine ux. Actually bought nova prime finally for it. Like barry said if it had been released like it was at ces I would have loved it. But as it is it is nuetered and boring. It is still pretty sexy looking imo.
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