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Looks like Froyo will have a few aesthetic changes. + JIT Makes Froyo much faster!

Update: Froyo (2.2) seems to be supposedly very fast compared to Eclair (2.1) according to Linpack results done at AndroidPolice.com.
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(official article here: http://iandouglas.com/2010/05/11/android-2-2-froyo-benchmarking/)
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I hope this interest some, from Android and Me.com:
(official article here: http://androidandme.com/2010/05/new..._campaign=Feed:+androidandme+(Android+and+Me))
Adobe evangelist Ryan Stewart has taunted us before and he is back again with a new YouTube video. In his latest upload, Ryan is showing off the latest version of Flash 10.1 on his Nexus One. Adobe gave all their employees Android phones and we recently learned that Flash 10.1 is tied to the release of FroYo (Android 2.2).
It appears Mr. Stewart is one of the lucky few to be running Android 2.2 on his Nexus One. At the tail end of the video (around 6:30 mark) we get a quick glimpse of his home screen.New desktop elements include an updated launcher, Android tutorial, and new global search box (picture after the jump).
Google is expected to unveil Android 2.2 at this month’s Google I/O.An increasing number of visitors to our site are running the latest FroYo firmware so it appears the update has been finalized. For a list of possible features, check out our Android 2.2 preview.
Update: It appears several Adobe employees are running the FroYo build. It also sounds like the giant FroYo sculpture has arrived at the Googleplex.
Youtube video demonstrating Flash:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y7XJI4NN7k&feature=youtube_gdata
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It took me a while to post this on my phone, I really hope this was worth the time! Can't wait for Froyo, we are almost there!

That looks really sweet. Froyo is going to be really awesome.
One thing I noticed on that video is that he had landscape orientation facing the wrong way. I don't have a Nexus One yet (look at my sig) but I thought you could only rotate the screen to the left unless you are rooted. I just hope they include a 360 orientation with froyo, that would be sweet.

Amazing!!! The Adobe employee in the video just machined through all those sites. WOW that is a lot of content.
The CBS site was pretty damn awesome. I hope his omission of Hulu isn't because Hulu will block mobile Flash...
Anyway, with Google I/O on the 19th, I was expecting FroYo and Flash 10.1 to leak then. With Adobe employees having access to this already, it should be only days now...

He has atk showing in the notifacation area. lol Good find btw.

i loooovvvee leaks
and best part about this one if it happens, no porting necessary

Re: Looks like Froyo will have a few aesthetic changes. + Is Froyo finalized?
Damn why won't the video load for me! Am I missing all the leaked android goodness?

ChillRays said:
I just hope they include a 360 orientation with froyo, that would be sweet.
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Wow good find there! You are right Froyo needs badly to include a 360* rotation. I can't wait until the 19th!

It seems like quite a lot of what's expected to come with Froyo is already available in ROMs like Cyanogen already. Some times I wish I hadn't unlocked my phone and kept it stock only so that future updates would *feel* much more significant... if you know what I mean.

PrawnPoBoy said:
It seems like quite a lot of what's expected to come with Froyo is already available in ROMs like Cyanogen already. Some times I wish I hadn't unlocked my phone and kept it stock only so that future updates would *feel* much more significant... if you know what I mean.
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Oh man you read my mind. This is exactly why I didn't root my phone - I love getting presents that don't unlock my bootloader. Makes em that much more special

If stock can catch up to the functionality of cyanogen (except for su) then it'll probably be a lot more stable and polished, seems like all Google has to do is copy the hard work of the modding community and HTC Sense lol.

ap3604 said:
Wow good find there! You are right Froyo needs badly to include a 360* rotation. I can't wait until the 19th!
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The Froyo OTA update is coming on the 19th??

ap3604 said:
Oh man you read my mind. This is exactly why I didn't root my phone - I love getting presents that don't unlock my bootloader. Makes em that much more special
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+3, once Froyo comes out, I'm going back to a froyo stock image. I rooted just for the trackball alert app. I couldn't stand being in a staring contest with my trackball to see if it blinked or not.

So a phone and web shortcut. sweet. the two things I wanted on all my homescreens so I didn't have to swipe back to the middle one.
1 week to Google I/O, here's hoping for an immediate 2.2 release.

I just read a article today where someone was showing off Flash and Hulu was blocked...then the other site crashed twice.
Ive been defending Flash mostly becuase Jobs is full of ****...but frankly if Flash is a resource hog battery killer or crasher we will never hear the end of it.
Seriously. N1 gets trashed in publications by appholes. I cant imagine if Flash is problematic..the Jobs knob slobbing will be in full force.
Adobe has a bullseye on its chest lets see how they respond.

I wonder how soon the source will be released for cyanogen to do a version
On a side note i'm liking the performance of Flash on the device, yes the video is choppy but that's for obvious reasons
definately the phone shortcut at the bottom is welcome change for me I'm hoping you can change the browser for say messaging/handcent

TurboTsi said:
+3, once Froyo comes out, I'm going back to a froyo stock image. I rooted just for the trackball alert app. I couldn't stand being in a staring contest with my trackball to see if it blinked or not.
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You just described what I do with my phone all day. After using Cyanogenmod I went back to stock and I really, really miss the trackball alert customizations. maybe I'll go back just for that :\

xManMythLegend said:
N1 gets trashed in publications by appholes.
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People trashing the N1 are morons who understand nothing about the evolution of new technology. No, it's not perfect, but it does an awful lot very well. I'll just ignore the morons and enjoy my N1 until *I* decide there is a worthy successor. I don't see one on the horizon - yet - regardless of all the blathering idiots spouting specifications and crying in their milk.

xManMythLegend said:
I just read a article today where someone was showing off Flash and Hulu was blocked...then the other site crashed twice.
Ive been defending Flash mostly becuase Jobs is full of ****...but frankly if Flash is a resource hog battery killer or crasher we will never hear the end of it.
Seriously. N1 gets trashed in publications by appholes. I cant imagine if Flash is problematic..the Jobs knob slobbing will be in full force.
Adobe has a bullseye on its chest lets see how they respond.
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As to why he didn't show HULU:
Ryan Stewart
May 11, 2010 at 4:15 am
Hulu loads just fine but they don’t seem to be allowing you to play video on the Nexus One. When I try to load a video I get an “unsupported on your platform” message.
=Ryan
[email protected]
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source: androidandme.com replies

Eclair~ said:
I hope this interest some, from Android and Me.com:
(official article here: http://androidandme.com/2010/05/new..._campaign=Feed:+androidandme+(Android+and+Me))
It took me a while to post this on my phone, I really hope this was worth the time! Can't wait for Froyo, we are almost there!
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Why did it take a while from your phone?
That's all I ever use, I forgot about my pc since my nexus came.... anyways 2. 2 looks cool

What I'm hoping is that pressing the phone and browser shortcuts will allow you to choose a default if you have more than one. I suppose it will be a while before the browsers contenders catch up with flash support but I use dialer one to search for contacts with the dialer; to me that is a necessity

Android Ice Cream Already in the Works for Summer Release

wtf.
http://pocketnow.com/android/rumor-android-24-ice-cream-arriving-in-early-summer
discuss.

TorxT3D said:
wtf.
http://pocketnow.com/android/rumor-android-24-ice-cream-arriving-in-early-summer
discuss.
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Probably just the name that Google is giving for the "phone version of Honeycomb".
..and what's so WTF about it? Google usually releases two major updates a year. Once in the Spring/Summer and one in the Winter. Business as usual. Only now they have a tablet version with it's own schedule.

I'll stick with gingerbread till jellybean comes out

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BREAKING NEWS: Android "Jello" already in development for an October release. Android users everywhere are stunned!

drmacinyasha said:
BREAKING NEWS: Android "Jello" already in development for an October release. Android users everywhere are stunned!
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can they name it after a trademarked copyrighted product?

NewZJ said:
can they name it after a trademarked copyrighted product?
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"Jello" is a generic term. "Jell-O" is a brand name.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Jello

This thread is making me hungry!
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NewZJ said:
can they name it after a trademarked copyrighted product?
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Naw, they made green jello change their namer to green jelly awhile back
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drmacinyasha said:
"Jello" is a generic term. "Jell-O" is a brand name.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Jello
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The generic term is gelatin....
Your wikipedia link doesn't even go anywhere, instead it suggests places, like the Jell-o page.....
Jello however has become a genericized brand synonymous with gelatins, much like people often refer to all tissues as "kleenex"

Only Google can have a bunch of people debating about the validity of words pertaining to food and copyrights.

There's always room for jello

deathsled said:
Your wikipedia link doesn't even go anywhere, instead it suggests places, like the Jell-o page.....
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Lemme quote the important part, with some emphasis:
Jello may refer to:
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Jell-O, a brand name for gelatin desserts
A genericized brand for gelatin desserts in general
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deathsled said:
Jello however has become a genericized brand synonymous with gelatins, much like people often refer to all tissues as "kleenex"
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Quoth the raven, "TISTHEPOINT"

Tired of these rumors. Ever since the word of froyo coming out everyone was saying oh its a tablet only release. Get off that crap. Sure google would be smart enough to call it gingerbread 2.4t or 3.0t which ever it is. T for tablet if need be. It wouldn't be wise nor make sense to make device specific OS upgrades.
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xHausx said:
Naw, they made green jello change their namer to green jelly awhile back
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.. now i have to go listen to them...it's been a long time.

mbaseball3 said:
Tired of these rumors. Ever since the word of froyo coming out everyone was saying oh its a tablet only release. Get off that crap. Sure google would be smart enough to call it gingerbread 2.4t or 3.0t which ever it is. T for tablet if need be. It wouldn't be wise nor make sense to make device specific OS upgrades.
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Why wouldn't it make sense? Phones and tablets should require different approaches; or do you just want a phone OS to be lazily scaled up to a tablet? Im sure that a lot or most of the elements of honeycomb will be seen on phones but don't expect all. Besides that, its just names and both are made from the same core.
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Award Tour said:
Why wouldn't it make sense? Phones and tablets should require different approaches; or do you just want a phone OS to be lazily scaled up to a tablet? Im sure that a lot or most of the elements of honeycomb will be seen on phones but don't expect all. Besides that, its just names and both are made from the same core.
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Ah-hem. iOS.

makes sense as it appears that there is going to be separate software for the tablets and the phones, a principal that i agree with. Tougher on dev's i would imagine but better for consumers which in the end with more adoption potentially would be a larger install base
TorxT3D said:
wtf.
http://pocketnow.com/android/rumor-android-24-ice-cream-arriving-in-early-summer
discuss.
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drmacinyasha said:
Ah-hem. iOS.
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You do realize that iOS is why I said that, right? Who wants another phone OS scaled up to a tablet. It should take advantage of the form factor and hardware.

they need to make a bigger jump. these little jumps from 2.1 to 2.2 to 2.3 to 2.4 are retarded. causes even more defragmentation. Should wait and add more functions and upgrades to it, and release them at least 1-2 years apart. Whats the point of updating the ui without actually making it faster and adding some more functions to it.

Have you tried gingerbread? I get better battery life speed is much improved easily go through a day with heavy use
I can't imagine getting an update every 2 years or even 1 fragmentation ia only occurring because manufactures are to lazy to update and take their time google doesn't have hardware limitations so it can be updated like the g1 it runs froyo well
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Ice Cream Sandwich UI leaks

Earlier RootzWiki and AndroidPolice both received leaks from a "extremely reliable source" and they both obtained 2 different pictures of the new Ice Cream Sandwich interface running on the Nexus S.
You can read the whole article here:
http://venturebeat.com/2011/08/11/delicious-android-ice-cream-sandwich-images-leak-online/
Here are the leaks:
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Brand-new launcher and app drawer, with screenshots of both featured exclusively on RootzWiki - with what appears to be a task switcher icon on the homescreen, though it could be something else.
Camera now has a panorama mode (not pictured)
Gmail has been totally re-themed to go with the new OS (not pictured)
Nexus S will be receiving ICS via update, but the "Nexus Prime" will be getting it first
Mostly UI changes - many older devices (< 1 year old) should be able to run it
Personally, I feel like these are fake. However, the AndroidPolice writers were heavily defending the credibility of their source in the comments section of the original post.
My reasons for being skeptical include:
At Google IO, they announced ICS would get a complete UI overhaul. This is the same basic layout we've been seeing for a long time.
The phone icon is the same as from eclair. A phone icon inside a sqaure, while the newest phone icon in gingerbread is just a phone with no square. Why would google use "new" icons for most of gapps but not the phone?
All the icons are the exact same ones from the Honeybread T-Mobile theme (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.gfxandroid.honeybreadtheme&feature=search_result) I'm not sure what the original source of the icons were, but I do know the same icons were "released" way before these leaks.
The signal bar icon is rotated, as is in honeycomb (a tablet thing). The honeybread theme also rotates the signal bar. I don't think google would get rid of the standard bars that's been the same on (as far as I know) every cell phone ever.
To me these just look like a gingerbread build themed with a modified build.prop.
Those are just my 2 cents as of now. There are a couple other things that just don't fit, but then again there are a couple of things that haven't been seen before. I do know that icons can just be used as placeholders when developing and that this is not nearly finished so the final product could (and hopefully) be completely different. What are your opinons?

hmmm... interesting...

why not consider it is still work in progress? at least that is what i would consider it is...

so the same kernel as Gingerbread?

I vote fake as well.
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Nexus one will not be having the ice update I guess.. google apps like google video and music and the new android market is so choppy on the nexus one..
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xzr3b0rnzx said:
Nexus one will not be having the ice update I guess.. google apps like google video and music and the new android market is so choppy on the nexus one..
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I have to disagree. I can't speak for Google video as I don't use it, but Music and the new Market work damn near flawlessly on my device

Not sure of the source of the icons? Have you heard of something called Android 3.0?
Anyway, it looks like the interface is extremely WIP graphics wise, but this definitely seems like the real deal. I just want to know what's going to happen to phones that have softkeys with this release and if ICS phones will have virtual ones as has been speculated.
Also, I feel that the nexus won't be getting an official release of this, especially with the weak GPU.

Fake--
NO real changes, I have blue items in status bar too
That is a Nexus S, this is an N1 thread--
Don't think the N1 could handle ICS--IMHO

rugmankc said:
Don't think the N1 could handle ICS--IMHO
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lolwhut?
Because you're so experienced with ICS and its requirements?
****ty posts like this are why XDA has turned in to what it is.

GldRush98 said:
lolwhut?
Because you're so experienced with ICS and its requirements?
****ty posts like this are why XDA has turned in to what it is.
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The N1 thus far has been able to handle everything even better than most phones that have come out in the past year. The custom kernels and oses for the N1 are incredible.

GldRush98 said:
****ty posts like this are why XDA has turned in to what it is.
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attacking people like this is what makes this place worse...
Everyone can have his own opinion mate....
Anyways am sure whatever changes are coming will mostly be ported out to our lovely N1 via custom roms thanks to the awesome devs around here!

If wp7 can make good use if the adreno 200, I am pretty sure google can make ics work well on the same gpu.

GldRush98 said:
lolwhut?
Because you're so experienced with ICS and its requirements?
****ty posts like this are why XDA has turned in to what it is.
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Thanks for the mature post
A better comment would have been telling me why it will and educating me not chastising me. It is only an opinion as pointed in my "IMHO" comment. I for one hope it will as I am only into 6 months of a 2 year contract with TMO. Brought the N1 to TMO from another carrier. I should have said that I didn't think it would work thru a normal OTA, but that with devs like Cyanogen, it may. Also, I don't know if anyone knows how much is being changed and if hardware will come into play. If you already know the source code enlighten us. I am no programmer, just a flasher. If this article is accurate it should work and seems to be little changed to a laymen. But, who knows yet?
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2101386/android-ice-cream-sandwich-leaked
Either way, it is my opinion at some point the N1's hardware or internal memory won't handle the newer OS's. ICS may not be that point yet. Hopefully never. We are running sense roms, thanks to folks like evil etc, but not without issues for a lot of folks. Bad blocks seem to hamper the N1 in some of these roms and the touch screen is not the best.
Another thread with varying opinions, albeit two months old--
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1137301
Either way I have thick skin and let's hope it works great
Ken

Don't know if these links have been posted before or their accuracy, but they seem to support our HOPE for ICS and talk about Nexus Prime. If this is old news sorry! Two pages.
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/compa..._nexus_one_vs_google_nexus_prime_rumours.html

If that's ics than its atrocious.
This will be the third straight dud out of Google.
I can't fathom "most work we've put into a release" and "total ui overhaul" result in that.
Seriously if that's real might as well hand over the reigns to crapple.

Quick thought,
Where it says android version, instead of sayin ICS shouldnt it say 2.4? To me it looks like somesones just recolored and renamed bits of CM7 I reckon this is fake but i guess we'll just have to wait and see

Good Point
But, maybe they haven't finalized a version number yet. Would think they would have though.
Trying to remember if GB leaks had number or said Gingerbread.

rugmankc said:
Good Point
But, maybe they haven't finalized a version number yet. Would think they would have though.
Trying to remember if GB leaks had number or said Gingerbread.
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Shouldnt be that hard to track down. Since every single android release has had "leaks". Im sure whoever did this would have done that as well (if it were fake)

Agreed, having ICS means nothing
But, all I remember on pics is 2.3--
or, the GR122 or whatever the number is. It dosen't show on the MIUI rom I am on atm. Think it does on Cyan.
Either way after further research and faith in Cyan, I think we may see ICS on the N1. Unless some new info comes out. It would be nice because GB has reached it's wow factor to me at this time.
Flashing was more exciting 6-12 months ago

Ice Cream Sandwich First Look [RootzWiki Exclusive]

Its here, leaked Screenshots (____)
Some of us are actually enjoying it on Nexus S
Dont ask me for any links
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Cool story bro.

How can we verify these photo's are the real deal? Build information can be easily changed with root rights and launcher themes can be designed.

GIR said:
How can we verify these photo's are the real deal? Build information can be easily changed with root rights and launcher themes can be designed.
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Oh don't start that, these have come from the same source that gave us gingerbread pictures last year. Those pictures turned out to be very real so we have no reasons to distrust these ones.

GIR said:
How can we verify these photo's are the real deal? Build information can be easily changed with root rights and launcher themes can be designed.
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And how do I verify that you are not from an APPLE FANBOY club :d ..
Just jocking, someone will put it on XDA soon ..

I dislike the blue theme, he is actually a samsung fanboy

Looks just like GB to me.

johncmolyneux said:
Looks just like GB to me.
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Because of this perhaps:
Not too many changes, just UI things, don't think requirements are set too high for year old devices to run it
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I was expecting something revolutionary with Andriod 4.0 seems like its just small bump..

EarlZ said:
I was expecting something revolutionary with Andriod 4.0 seems like its just small bump..
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Same here. It may as well be 2.3.7.

The main UI will be largely the same however certain elements will have more of a 3.x twist to them, like the widget screen and app switcher.
Also apps will work differently when in landscape (tablet mode) to portrait (phone mode).

I see the word "soju" in those screen shots... Thats a Korean Alcohol... Just sayin'
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What's with all the blacked out icons? Someone's got a lot of shortcuts to porn. lol.

Lennyuk said:
Oh don't start that, these have come from the same source that gave us gingerbread pictures last year. Those pictures turned out to be very real so we have no reasons to distrust these ones.
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And how do I verify that you are not from an APPLE FANBOY club :d ..
Just jocking, someone will put it on XDA soon ..
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Taken from Engadget comments.
-Honeycomb uses a much newer kernel build, 2.6.36, and ICS was allegedly supposed to use the new Linux 3.0 kernel
-Phone icon taken directly from froyo, not even gingerbread
-Android version is supposed to say the version number, not name, even with previous leaks with gingerbread they always showed the number. ie 3.1 or 4.0
-This has a teal blue theme rather than the dark blue colors of Honeycomb
-App tray should be semi-transparent, where are the holographic UI elements from Honeycomb?
- Shouldnt the clock have an LED font?
- That power control widget has been removed ever since Honeycomb
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i just hope most of the stock apps is improved. weathers, t9 dialers, better stock email and many more that should be as a out of the box perfection.
just saying, i dont care if this pic is real or not, i just hyped cuz of the new version. no matter how small the improvements, i love updates!

LuffyPSP said:
i just hope most of the stock apps is improved. weathers, t9 dialers, better stock email and many more that should be as a out of the box perfection.
just saying, i dont care if this pic is real or not, i just hyped cuz of the new version. no matter how small the improvements, i love updates!
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You must be a linux user hehe
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You must be a linux user hehe
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haha yes but only half of it. spend most of my times on windows though.

Just saying, this guy could have installed a custom launcher and edited build.prop to make it say IceCreamSandwich..
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Nothing against the guy but I dont see the real point in editing the pictures, infact i dont see the whole point of this "proof of concept" photo. Was expecting more changes from ICS though.. I wonder how it performs resolution scaling with apps?

I still hope those are fake or just an early test version. Can't really see much improvement if that's what ICS looks. Hopefully it will be much better than that.

No magazineUX

Again samsung fail
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This is good news to me, tbh.

abdielol said:
This is good news to me, tbh.
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Excellent news
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Ok ?
Wait .. Isn't that a good thing , no bloat - ware ...
A couple of months back Samsung signed an agreement with Google that they will try to reduce the modifications to the stock Android experience
I think this is the result of that agreement.

The only 4.4 ROM out right now is for the Columbian Wi-Fi version. It could be the same ROM as for other markets or it may not be. Magazine UX is still on the N10.1-14 microsite where it first appeared after the Pro's started shipping. It may mean something or it may not.
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/2014galaxynote10.1/feature.html
If it does end up permanently missing I won't be too upset. When M-UX was first shown at CES I thought it was cool because there were a ton of widgets and you could create tiles for any installed app. In and of itself it could have been a potential alternate UI. What was released with the Pro's was completely neutered. From three home pages with one being the main home screen it's been reduced to one tagged on at the end of the traditional TW home pages. Most of the widgets left are just modular pieces of My Magazine which means it went from being a hidden pull-up to mandatorily consuming a home page that could be used for other things instead. I use all my home pages so wasn't keen on giving one up to M-UX in its current state. It's not even called Magazine UX anymore. It's now "Content Home."
There is a downside. I was kind of hoping the N10.1-14 would have been made s/w compatible with the Pro's to increase the frequency of updates received. If M-UX and other UI-based features from the Pro's have been left out we'll end up being an odd duck and 4.4 might be the last major update we see. It certainly won't help update timing, that's for sure.
Time will tell...

You really want that bloated crap? I'm glad it's not on there.
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Itchiee said:
You really want that bloated crap? I'm glad it's not on there.
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If I wanted AOSP I wouldn't have spent what I did on a tablet that has more added on top of Android than any other device on the planet. You'll find this shocking but some folks actually do use the N10.1-14 to get work done and a lot of that "bloated crap" is what makes that possible.

Actually I wasn't talking to you hammer, it was for the op.
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Actually I wasn't talking to you hammer, it was for the op.
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My bad. But this is a mixed forum. 1/3 actually use the N10.1-14 as a creation/productivity device as Samsung intended. 1/3 bought if for the high-end h/w, stripped it bare s/w wise, and I guess use it primarily for consumption and gaming. The other 1/3 are somewhere in between. What pleases one group pisses the other off. To each their own.
S Pen and s/w combined are more important to Note purchasers than the h/w. Even the Samsung brand is more important than h/w. Maybe not on XDA but for the rest of the masses that make up 95+% of Note sales. TW won't win any design awards but it does provide a level of functionality, especially on the Note's, that makes having it a positive; at least for me.
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I understand and do enjoy your posts here. I'm looking at it for what it is a Flip board home screen and do not see it being useful for most when you can have the same functionality already. Yes my tablet is a luxury device to me that I wanted but don't need. If it bums you guys out that it's missing then I apologize, but I'm glad I don't have it running...
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I understand and do enjoy your posts here. I'm looking at it for what it is a Flip board home screen and do not see it being useful for most when you can have the same functionality already. Yes my tablet is a luxury device to me that I wanted but don't need. If it bums you guys out that it's missing then I apologize, but I'm glad I don't have it running...
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Just to Add , I would love any extra software functionality as long as the "frame rate" is maintained as stock .

Itchiee said:
I understand and do enjoy your posts here. I'm looking at it for what it is a Flip board home screen and do not see it being useful for most when you can have the same functionality already. Yes my tablet is a luxury device to me that I wanted but don't need. If it bums you guys out that it's missing then I apologize, but I'm glad I don't have it running.
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We actually agree. Before M-UX got neutered I was cautiously excited. Mostly for the interactive widgets that could be potential productivity boosters and getting more content on each page. As it stands now it's just a space wasting news feed. The Pro's also lost Samsung Hub which we'll retain. Samsung's videos can be stored on external SD and played back in Pop-up-play which is great for long trips.

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We actually agree. Before M-UX got neutered I was cautiously excited. Mostly for the interactive widgets that could be potential productivity boosters and getting more content on each page. As it stands now it's just a space wasting news feed. The Pro's also lost Samsung Hub which we'll retain. Samsung's videos can be stored on external SD and played back in Pop-up-play which is great for long trips.
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I will pull magazineUX from a p900 rom and test it out may include as an option in next rom release. V1 due out in 13mins

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I will pull magazineUX from a p900 rom and test it out may include as an option in next rom release. V1 due out in 13mins
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The version of M-UX in the N12 is crippled like described above. Here's a thread from the N12 forum that discusses what's missing along with a kind of schizophrenic discussion on how to (theoretically) get the missing components back. People in the N12 forum are trying to figure out how to disable/remove M-UX so they can get a normal home page back. The grass is always greener...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2663940

It should be switchable between normal TW UI and MagazineUX
(If it possible)

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It should be switchable between normal TW UI and MagazineUX
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if its just two different launchers and a few other apks, i dont see why not. its like how i have blinkfeed and lg home flashed on top of my nexus 5 which is also running the GEL and nova lol

I'm in the "who gives a ****" crowd. It's a bloated gimmick that'd be used one time and abandoned.

Hancom Office
The only thing I'm hoping for when the 4.4 is eleased for U.S. is the Hancom Office software. Won't loose any sleep if they exclude the Magazine UX. I had a Pro 8.4 and a Note 12.2(to big) and really didn't like it.

I have the note 12.2 and I dont use magazine ux. Actually bought nova prime finally for it. Like barry said if it had been released like it was at ces I would have loved it. But as it is it is nuetered and boring. It is still pretty sexy looking imo.
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