Hi all, new here and having a bit of trouble...
I just got a Galaxy tab 4 (SM-T230NU) and I've been trying to find some way to root it... I'm using Manjaro Linux (an Arch Linux Variant) so most of the windows tools are out (believe me I have tried them, both under WINE and in Win7 in VirtualBox... seems no matter what I do I can't connect to the devices that way)
I wanted to try heimdall, I downloaded it and installed it, and even tried doing a root with it, but the posts I've read say I need recovery.img and cache.img (I think it was) and all I have from the Odin/TWRP package is the recovery.img...
So, where can I get the proper firmware files to use with Heimdall to root this thing? Would be very nmice to get them all in a single package that Heimdall can simply open and use, but if need be, I can extract them and enter them one at a time manually... (please if poossible, include some instructions about which files need to go where in Heimdall... I think I know, but I would like to be 100 percent surew)
And thanks
fraterchaos said:
Hi all, new here and having a bit of trouble...
I just got a Galaxy tab 4 (SM-T230NU) and I've been trying to find some way to root it... I'm using Manjaro Linux (an Arch Linux Variant) so most of the windows tools are out (believe me I have tried them, both under WINE and in Win7 in VirtualBox... seems no matter what I do I can't connect to the devices that way)
I wanted to try heimdall, I downloaded it and installed it, and even tried doing a root with it, but the posts I've read say I need recovery.img and cache.img (I think it was) and all I have from the Odin/TWRP package is the recovery.img...
So, where can I get the proper firmware files to use with Heimdall to root this thing? Would be very nmice to get them all in a single package that Heimdall can simply open and use, but if need be, I can extract them and enter them one at a time manually... (please if poossible, include some instructions about which files need to go where in Heimdall... I think I know, but I would like to be 100 percent surew)
And thanks
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Um, did I post this in the wrong place, or did I make some sort of mistake? It seems as if nobody even bothers to say anything in response, even though more than 70 people have viewed this...
surely somebody knows something about where to get these files... sorry if there's a listing here someplace, I've searched and not found it, so if I missed it, please supply a link at least...
fraterchaos said:
Um, did I post this in the wrong place, or did I make some sort of mistake? It seems as if nobody even bothers to say anything in response, even though more than 70 people have viewed this...
surely somebody knows something about where to get these files... sorry if there's a listing here someplace, I've searched and not found it, so if I missed it, please supply a link at least...
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Ok, well, I guess I've asked the wrong question, or people here are just assholes, because nobody is even bothering to answer me at all...
Funny, even people who have asked questions that have already been answered are advised to try searching the forums, but I get nothing at all... not even a smart ass reply about searching for the answer myself (even though I've already tried that, and found nothing)
All I want is a stupid link to the files I need to root the damn thing using Heimdall, if I'd known the forum here was going to be this snobbish I would not have bothered joining.
fraterchaos said:
Ok, well, I guess I've asked the wrong question, or people here are just assholes, because nobody is even bothering to answer me at all...
Funny, even people who have asked questions that have already been answered are advised to try searching the forums, but I get nothing at all... not even a smart ass reply about searching for the answer myself (even though I've already tried that, and found nothing)
All I want is a stupid link to the files I need to root the damn thing using Heimdall, if I'd known the forum here was going to be this snobbish I would not have bothered joining.
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I personally don't use linux to flash things so i dont have any idea sorry. I wondered why no one answered yet (probably don't have any). Would there be anyway you can get windows running or some sort and flash with Odin without using virtualbox? I don't know anything about flashing with heimdall so I can't help you with that ?
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I personally don't use linux to flash things so i dont have any idea sorry. I wondered why no one answered yet (probably don't have any). Would there be anyway you can get windows running or some sort and flash with Odin without using virtualbox? I don't know anything about flashing with heimdall so I can't help you with that
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I've tried using various win flash programs both under wine and with Win7 in VirtualBox and none of them work
the thing is, I can find the instructions for using heimdall in linux, I just need the correct files, which are likely the same whether one is using Heimdall or Odin... I need the various .img files that have to be uploaded to the device... if I have all those, then I can find instructions for using Heimdall to upload them (or whatever you want to call it)
Unfo9rtunately, I'm totally new to all this (I know a good bit about Linux and what root is in Linux, and I know Android actually IS a version of Linux) but I've never rooted any phones or tablets before... I don't really know what all files I have to replace... one site I was on said I need recovery.img and cache.img and to send them to the tablet using Heimdall... but TWRP only has recovery.img, not cache.img, so it didn't work when I tried doing it with just recovery.img...
So really, if I just knew what files needed replaced on the device, and links to somewhere to get them, I could probably manage it from there.
okay, i'll bite
from one asshole to another, the problem is trying to get an image written without root.
writing to any block requires an escalation of priveleges [root]
you run linux, you need to install android-tools , adb fastboot etc,
wine is not going to do it, i've tried and failed with xp in virtual box as well, [odin]
the last i checked hemdall seemed to be "broken" with the current batch of samsung devices.
now, rather than run riot on xda and bothering assholes like me with your assholish assholiness, stop being an
asshole and use the search function, asshole.
Also, you only need a few minutes of time on a windows machine to get your tab sorted, so provided you're not being
an asshole, maybe you can find some asshole with a windows pc who's willing to give you some time on to get it done.
asshole.
um yeah
moonbutt74 said:
okay, i'll bite
from one asshole to another, the problem is trying to get an image written without root.
writing to any block requires an escalation of priveleges [root]
you run linux, you need to install android-tools , adb fastboot etc,
wine is not going to do it, i've tried and failed with xp in virtual box as well, [odin]
the last i checked hemdall seemed to be "broken" with the current batch of samsung devices.
now, rather than run riot on xda and bothering assholes like me with your assholish assholiness, stop being an
asshole and use the search function, asshole.
Also, you only need a few minutes of time on a windows machine to get your tab sorted, so provided you're not being
an asshole, maybe you can find some asshole with a windows pc who's willing to give you some time on to get it done.
asshole.
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If you had bothered to read my posts, and if you also bothered to look at how long I waited for ANY ****ing reply, you might not feel as if I had "run riot"
I said, from the very start, that I had searched and had not found anything that I could use... but opf course, that doesn't matter to you, does it?
You know what dude, go **** yourself
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fraterchaos said:
If you had bothered to read my posts, and if you also bothered to look at how long I waited for ANY ****ing reply, you might not feel as if I had "run riot"
I said, from the very start, that I had searched and had not found anything that I could use... but opf course, that doesn't matter to you, does it?
You know what dude, go **** yourself
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Well humour didn't work, listen, you come into xda as a noob knowing nothing, and rather than actually look for what you need
with the unbelievable amount of information avaible to you, you instead spout of and i quote
Ok, well, I guess I've asked the wrong question, or people here are just assholes, because nobody is even bothering to answer me at all...
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xda is not your customer service desk. it is no one individual's obligation to give a 5hit how long you wait for anything.
we, by our nature, meaning new developers such as myself and the old dogs who whip up genuinely crazy-awesome 5hit have one major thing in common, a thirst for knowledge about this technology and the love of the hunt when it come to searching for information to take us further.
i have read many posts such as yours, the theme runs the same,
wah wah, i'm lazy fix it now, because i operate out of a sense of entitlement, or i am terribly mistaken as to the purpose of xda.
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So how suprised can you be, to get the response you got, after basically levelling the title of asshole at literally everyone on xda?
Your words matter.Whether you wish them to or not. You should definitely watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
and then rethink your approach.
EDIT- i'm still waiting for xxxda-developers xD
And just to be clear, I am one of the assholes working on these devices to help out and contribute to the community. Check yourself. Asshole.
m
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You may have a better chance running over to your neighbour to get this done on their windows system right now. If you can, then come back to the forum.xda-developers.com to obtain information on how to complete the root process.
moonbutt74 said:
Well humour didn't work, listen, you come into xda as a noob knowing nothing, and rather than actually look for what you need
with the unbelievable amount of information avaible to you, you instead spout of and i quote
xda is not your customer service desk. it is no one individual's obligation to give a 5hit how long you wait for anything.
we, by our nature, meaning new developers such as myself and the old dogs who whip up genuinely crazy-awesome 5hit have one major thing in common, a thirst for knowledge about this technology and the love of the hunt when it come to searching for information to take us further.
i have read many posts such as yours, the theme runs the same,
So how suprised can you be, to get the response you got, after basically levelling the title of asshole at literally everyone on xda?
Your words matter.Whether you wish them to or not. You should definitely watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
and then rethink your approach.
EDIT- i'm still waiting for xxxda-developers xD
And just to be clear, I am one of the assholes working on these devices to help out and contribute to the community. Check yourself. Asshole.
m
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you're really sad you know that? With all the time you've spent *****ing at me for asking a simple question, you could easily have linked whatever it was I was asking about...
I guess I'm too used to Manjaro foriums where the [people ACTUALLY want to HELP newbs instead of lording over them
Yeah, I'm a newbie, and I don't entirely know everything abo9ut what I'm doing, but I asked a simple question, "can anybody give me a link to the RIGHT files I would need for Heimdall"
bwcause when I tried searching, I got numerous posts with various files that where not clearly exp0lained in a way a newbie might understand which ones they needed... so um yeah, it's all MY fault people post stufgf here and simply expect a newb to know all the differences between roms and kernels and recovery files and cache files and all the rewst of it...
As I said before, go **** yourself, and better yet, go **** yourself with a cactus
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fraterchaos said:
you're really sad you know that? With all the time you've spent *****ing at me for asking a simple question, you could easily have linked whatever it was I was asking about...
I guess I'm too used to Manjaro foriums where the [people ACTUALLY want to HELP newbs instead of lording over them
Yeah, I'm a newbie, and I don't entirely know everything abo9ut what I'm doing, but I asked a simple question, "can anybody give me a link to the RIGHT files I would need for Heimdall"
bwcause when I tried searching, I got numerous posts with various files that where not clearly exp0lained in a way a newbie might understand which ones they needed... so um yeah, it's all MY fault people post stufgf here and simply expect a newb to know all the differences between roms and kernels and recovery files and cache files and all the rewst of it...
As I said before, go **** yourself, and better yet, go **** yourself with a cactus
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Or maybe you're ignoring the fact that we're all n00bs here, n00bs in disguise or n00bs in rehabilitation, n00bs who choose to put time and effort into slowly being something more. N00bs who help each other out when we can but figure it out on our own when we can't. Maybe the fact you didn't originally get an answer is due to the fact that (as DUHAsianSkillz post suggests) nobody actually knew the answer to your question, and then were incredibly put off (to say the least) how you followed it up demanding an answer. That empty space where you got no answer? That was a collective, "I don't know," from the forum. Would getting one or two or twenty "I don't know," posts really have assuaged the butthurt? As moonbutt74 pointed out, this is very much a DIY forum, you consider yourself lucky if someone gives you an all-out solution. And that last line? Yeah keep it classy you nimrod.
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This is a development forum, just exactly how is it constructive is it to tell someone to go fornicate themselves? Dear lord baby Jeebus take the wheel
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Or maybe you're ignoring the fact that we're all n00bs here, n00bs in disguise or n00bs in rehabilitation, n00bs who choose to put time and effort into slowly being something more. N00bs who help each other out when we can but figure it out on our own when we can't. Maybe the fact you didn't originally get an answer is due to the fact that (as DUHAsianSkillz post suggests) nobody actually knew the answer to your question, and then were incredibly put off (to say the least) how you followed it up demanding an answer. That empty space where you got no answer? That was a collective, "I don't know," from the forum. Would getting one or two or twenty "I don't know," posts really have assuaged the butthurt? As moonbutt74 pointed out, this is very much a DIY forum, you consider yourself lucky if someone gives you an all-out solution. And that last line? Yeah keep it classy you nimrod.
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funny thing... I DID get a "I don't know" post... AFTER I got a bit snarky... and I appreciated that.
But moonbutt isn't trying to be helpful, isn't trying to lighten a situation, he's being an ass... he's lording over me that he KNOWS MORE ABOUT IT THAN I DO... like I care.
I admitted being a newb right off the bat. And I've explained over and over why I said what I said.... I DID FUCVKING TRY TO SEARCH and I found a bunch of stuff I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND, so I was asking for a bit a of help... I THO(UGHT that was what FORUMS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE FOR????????
OK, that's it. I'm not responding to any more messages from anyone who wants to ***** at me... I got upset, maybe I should not have, but I coukld not think of any other way to get an answer,,, I posted a secoind question aski8ng if I had done something wrong, or if I was in the wrong thread or what... and not one of you big brains even bothered to answer that one either... so yeah I GOT A LITTLE MAD.;
I'm done, please find an admin and remove me from this ****ing waste of a forum... and some of you really need to learn how to behave towards newbs, assholes
Get off your figurative lazy ass and find it. It is all contained here.
Not only have I suggested you seek a "friend" with a windows computer to get done what you need to get done, another user made the same suggestion mere moments ago. Additionally i am not *****ing about anything, I am simply trying to get across to you that it is YOUR obligation to find the things you need and no one else's. I am responding to you while i am waiting on a kernel build to finish for the cm12 effort for the sm-t330nu. While you are incapable of finding what you are looking for to suit your selfish needs, i am looking for solutions to problems with mtp, battery charging, wifi connectivity drops, rotation/gyroscope sensor issues and media encoding and decoding, not to mention our wonderful camera, which just refuses to work. I am also studying up on how to create/define/modify an selinux policy which may [hopefully resolve the problem.
Quit your whining and get to work.
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n00bs in rehabilitation, butthurt, cactus !?!?! OMG i xD
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I am brand new and even I would know better than to piss on the individuals you are seeking help from. There were about a dozen other avenues you could have gone rather than the direction you took to be a entitlement douche. The people on here are not at you beckon call. Everyone here is working towards more knowledge so that at some point they can contribute to someone else.
As far as your original post, why aren't you trying to root first before loading a distro. It took me about 2 minutes last night to find a youtube video that walked me through my first root step by step. This is where you need to start rather than trying to do it all in one fell swoop. Go to nerdishtech's youtube channel and see what hes got for rooting your device.
Hope this helps,
Gno
eddiestuder said:
I am brand new and even I would know better than to piss on the individuals you are seeking help from. There were about a dozen other avenues you could have gone rather than the direction you took to be a entitlement douche. The people on here are not at you beckon call. Everyone here is working towards more knowledge so that at some point they can contribute to someone else.
As far as your original post, why aren't you trying to root first before loading a distro. It took me about 2 minutes last night to find a youtube video that walked me through my first root step by step. This is where you need to start rather than trying to do it all in one fell swoop. Go to nerdishtech's youtube channel and see what hes got for rooting your device.
Hope this helps,
Gno
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I find it rather funny that you waited more than two weeks to join in to complaining about my posts, but what's worse is that you didn't even UNDERSTAND my original post, and then sit there complaining at me about that post because of your own misunderstanding of it.
I NEVER asked ANYTHING about rooting and installing a distro at the same time, what I was asking was how to root using a PC that was running a DISTRO... so my advice is, if you're going to complain at people, at LEAST try to understand what they were actually asking, instead of assuming something that wasn't true.
BTW, for anyone who stumbles on this thread and has the same problem I had, trying to root a Galaxy Tab 4 under linux, you can use the KingRoot program to do it, instructions can be found at http://hexamob.com/android-rooting-method-kingroot/
But instead of downloading the KingRoot app to your PC, download it direct to your Tab, and install and run it there... the colors won't match the description on hexamob's page, but it WILL root your Tab
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why are there so many noobs filling up the dev section with questions or stupid things that can be answered with just a simple search theres 3 pages of crap and not really anything is out development wise for our phones but what is out and in the works is greatly appreciated
Cool story, bro!
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Cool story, bro!
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lol im just saying once stuff actually does get released there's gonna be lots of crap around it kinda like one thread in dev saying froyo??? all it is, is a link saying that froyo is available for european phones that really shouldn't be in the dev section
Agreed.. I'm sick of the 3g question...
I really like the fact that it takes multiple people to post the same thing in each thread.
Kind of feels like Office Space around here =\
have you turned in your tps reports?
Why are there so many elitist snobs who think their own **** never stank?
be a helper, point people in the right direction, dont be a douchebag and you will encourage community involvement otherwise people will think most people here are a bunch of asses and it encourages the take without given back mentality.
KerryG said:
Why are there so many elitist snobs who think their own **** never stank?
be a helper, point people in the right direction, dont be a douchebag and you will encourage community involvement otherwise people will think most people here are a bunch of asses and it encourages the take without given back mentality.
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well as in being a douche bag im not im simply stating im tired of noobs posting in the wrong section, and i do help and tell them they are in the wrong section. And as for your statement, i dont see how that has to do with anything accept you being a noob and not understanding where im coming from. ive been here a while and helped lots as for you i cant say the same... so i think you should take your own advice.
That's why I made the sticky, that SOME neglect.
Just remember we were ALL NOOBS at one point wen we started here. Theirs really no need on cracking on sumone cause they dont kno anything and all their trying to do is learn.. Yea it blows that theirs all the silly questions and dis and dat out their but all that rlly needs to b done is point them to the rite section, you know why.. Simple, because if u dont help others, others wont help you pretty simple rite??
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Just a lot of lazy people who doesn't care about reading simple rules or care about them, they just want someone to answer their question when they have one and then move one happily with their phone.
cico7 said:
Just remember we were ALL NOOBS at one point wen we started here. Theirs really no need on cracking on sumone cause they dont kno anything and all their trying to do is learn.. Yea it blows that theirs all the silly questions and dis and dat out their but all that rlly needs to b done is point them to the rite section, you know why.. Simple, because if u dont help others, others wont help you pretty simple rite??
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Props to that people who wants to learn, but the ones who really wants to do it, they search and read, that's the best way of learning about something, just my point of view... anyhow life goes on so we need to point them to the right direction, always respectfully.
cico7 said:
Just remember we were ALL NOOBS at one point wen we started here. Theirs really no need on cracking on sumone cause they dont kno anything and all their trying to do is learn.. Yea it blows that theirs all the silly questions and dis and dat out their but all that rlly needs to b done is point them to the rite section, you know why.. Simple, because if u dont help others, others wont help you pretty simple rite??
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yes of course i agree but im putting this just to state that all this is getting out of hand and we cant do anything cause we really dont have a mod yet for the vibrant section... and i still help out of course and dont really bash on anyone in here cause its uncalled for...
KerryG said:
Why are there so many elitist snobs who think their own **** never stank?
be a helper, point people in the right direction, dont be a douchebag and you will encourage community involvement otherwise people will think most people here are a bunch of asses and it encourages the take without given back mentality.
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I think it's out of frustration. I've been on these forums READING for over a year just about every day. The DEV section should be the most moderated. There ends up being so much noise once it starts rolling, it's hard to keep up with any legitimate development changes or updates. Some people handle it "nicer" than others, but the point being, if people took the time to read before they type, their questions and comments are probably already covered. It's just frustrating seeing 3-4 mi gps iz brok threads on one page. Moderators will usually merge them so there is one cohesive conversation, not spread out over multiple threads. Why make them have to do that?
Think before you speak in forumese means read before you type.
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well as in being a douche bag im not im simply stating im tired of noobs posting in the wrong section, and i do help and tell them they are in the wrong section. And as for your statement, i dont see how that has to do with anything accept you being a noob and not understanding where im coming from. ive been here a while and helped lots as for you i cant say the same... so i think you should take your own advice.
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In your Same Tone:
This Thread is useless, But seriously if you have been in different forums here on XDA from the very beginning, you will notice they are all like that and once roms and stuff starts getting developed, the amount of people asking and posting in wrong forums get minimized. I saw it with the G1, mytouch, htc Hero (EU), Nexus one, and now on here..... so if it upsets you that badly, create a site of your own and make it so that each user must take a "im not a noob Test" in order to become a member///-- End of Joke-- Or Just Wait a little longer for a Mod to be designated to clean out the mess.
i think it's due to a lot of people not realizing that this is a pretty technical forum so they think because they are asking a question that seems technical to them, they need to post it in the section that seems the most advanced. when really, dev is and should be just that, development. maybe 'general' should be renamed 'questions and help' or something.
but i'm a noob. i've been lurking and reading a bit, just don't post much. but i have to say, the first thread i made i got flamed (k, just toasted a little) because i asked for drivers AND help (in the right section), turns out the drivers everyone pointed me to i already had, so that was no help, and the other threads i read about mounting the phone didn't help. turned out the usb ports on the front of my pc just didn't like the phone, but of course it took posting a thread on here to make me think of something that simple.
that's my $.02
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i think it's due to a lot of people not realizing that this is a pretty technical forum so they think because they are asking a question that seems technical to them, they need to post it in the section that seems the most advanced. when really, dev is and should be just that, development. maybe 'general' should be renamed 'questions and help' or something.
but i'm a noob. i've been lurking and reading a bit, just don't post much. but i have to say, the first thread i made i got flamed (k, just toasted a little) because i asked for drivers AND help (in the right section), turns out the drivers everyone pointed me to i already had, so that was no help, and the other threads i read about mounting the phone didn't help. turned out the usb ports on the front of my pc just didn't like the phone, but of course it took posting a thread on here to make me think of something that simple.
that's my $.02
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i agree with you on this about people thinking it should be in dev and all that and it sounds reasonable i wass just hoping that maybe whoever sees and reads this will realize they should post here instead of the dev section even though there are stickies... i thought stupid noobs would bring some people in to read this lol
Skater, what are you talking about? The first post you posted in the development section was...
Uh, will the htc_ime work on this phone?
You, yourself posted a question about an app in the development section, and then got mad when I told you to search...
what did you yield? the apk.. how long did it take? not long...
when is the last time you actually sat down to help someone? to answer some questions? not just pulled up the dev section hoping there was a new rom out...
Dont stir the pot with this... just answer there question and educate them to post in the correct place, read the forum rules, or to search.. if a post gets out of hand, PM a Moderator and ask them to move/close a thread.. A wise man once said, contribute to the community or STFU...
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Skater, what are you talking about? The first post you posted in the development section was...
Uh, will the htc_ime work on this phone?
You, yourself posted a question about an app in the development section, and then got mad when I told you to search...
what did you yield? the apk.. how long did it take? not long...
when is the last time you actually sat down to help someone? to answer some questions? not just pulled up the dev section hoping there was a new rom out...
Dont stir the pot with this... just answer there question and educate them to post in the correct place, read the forum rules, or to search.. if a post gets out of hand, PM a Moderator and ask them to move/close a thread.. A wise man once said, contribute to the community or STFU...
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well if you would have correctly looked at the post i said it worked but didnt work right and yes i found one that worked but thats cause i had to try 3 or 4 different ones until i came across one that worked and how can you search something that nothing was made for? and i answer questions all the time i help when i can all i see you doing is saying search for it yourself or this is the wrong section but never did you give any advice as where to find something or anything helpful so you should listen to yourself and take your own advice and ive helped some by finding that apk that does work... more than i can say for you
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That's why I made the sticky, that SOME neglect.
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You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. It's on you. Put a page before the dev forum explaining this is not a place for ideas tell them where to go this is a place to talk code basically. Give examples of common instances. Ie. The post about 2.2 the person was probably trying to be helpful (like devs wouldn't know). If you want peace say if you're unsure post in general and let s mod move it if necessary. Stop crying and do something about it. Personally I'm tired of both sides. I just want to make my phone better and help where I can.
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hey guys, i think i am trying to to install a new rom. what i am trying to do is dual boot wm 6.5 and android, if thats possible, i have tried searching for stuff, but i get not enough info in some places, and too much in others, here are some links to stuff i have found so far:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733752&highlight=registry+editor
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614&highlight=android
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7088391&postcount=4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
can anyone help me out with this? its a lot of info for me, and i dont know what to do/ look at
i have read all the newbie and noob posts out there, so dont tell me to go read them
id like someone to tell me exactly what to download and how to run it to effectivly get android running on my device, dual boot if possible, id like to keep wm 6.5 but also have android. id also like to have a back up rom that is completly "stock" unless a hard reset will erase everything and put it back to "stock" incase i need to sell the device, or just go back.
im sure i am missing a few things, so any help would be greatly appreciated, i really need to get this done, because as of right now, i am not to happy with my device with just wm 6.5 and i cant afford to take a loss and sell it back...
i also may be wrong with some of my terminology, so what i understand is with dual booting i can run wm 6.5 just like i have now and use CHT and stuff, or i can run an android UI like the real android devices?
like i said, any help would be greatly appreciated, and i really need to get this accomplished,
thanks,
PBLeonidus
come on, now one knows how to get android running on their device?
please, i need help with this!
also, how or where can i get a registry editor? preferably a .cab file?
dont worry i got it working. thanks for all the help from those that posted! (obviously being sarcastic as no one posted anything)
if any one wants to know, i used max energy Co0kie Energy ROM
with the latest froyo stone android file thing
and a dual booter, ran into a few issues, but got it working
pbleonidus said:
dont worry i got it working. thanks for all the help from those that posted! (obviously being sarcastic as no one posted anything)
if any one wants to know, i used max energy Co0kie Energy ROM
with the latest froyo stone android file thing
and a dual booter, ran into a few issues, but got it working
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wow, you expect us to solve all your problems in 24 hours, on the weekend no less? How much do you think we are getting paid for this?
Glad you got it figured out. Next time, you could try posting in the regular hd2 section as well, seems to be more traffic there.
pbleonidus said:
dont worry i got it working. thanks for all the help from those that posted! (obviously being sarcastic as no one posted anything)
if any one wants to know, i used max energy Co0kie Energy ROM
with the latest froyo stone android file thing
and a dual booter, ran into a few issues, but got it working
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So you're bothered by the fact we didn't give you the answers quick enough, to something that you obviously had the ability to work out on your own? That points to the fact you didn't do enough to help yourself, before posting your question...something the rules here specifically address.
sirphunkee said:
So you're bothered by the fact we didn't give you the answers quick enough, to something that you obviously had the ability to work out on your own? That points to the fact you didn't do enough to help yourself, before posting your question...something the rules here specifically address.
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i did several hours of searching before i posted this, and after a lot of dead ends and frustration, i posted the question, but i continued to search after i posted, which led me to my answer.
and i dont think you guys get paid anything, i just would have expected at least one person to post something, helpfull or not, i just found it weird that no one said anything, not even "i am interested in this as well" or something like "good luck" that i see in other posts....
There's nothing weird you just don't have enough patience to wait for replies. Anyways, good to see that you actually utilized the search function. There's a dedicated android on hd2 forum here on xda. You should have posted your question there.
pbleonidus said:
i did several hours of searching before i posted this, and after a lot of dead ends and frustration, i posted the question, but i continued to search after i posted, which led me to my answer.
and i dont think you guys get paid anything, i just would have expected at least one person to post something, helpfull or not, i just found it weird that no one said anything, not even "i am interested in this as well" or something like "good luck" that i see in other posts....
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pbleonidus said:
and i dont think you guys get paid anything, i just would have expected at least one person to post something, helpfull or not, i just found it weird that no one said anything, not even "i am interested in this as well" or something like "good luck" that i see in other posts....
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We dont. It was sarcasm. Hes saying hes not getting paid to help you, so dont get upset when you dont get an answer... This is the internet. Dont expect things from anyone. Just relax and wait. Sometimes, depending on the question, it can take days, weeks to get an answer. If you need people to hold your hand and wish you luck, try the Disney forum.
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We dont. It was sarcasm. Hes saying hes not getting paid to help you, so dont get upset when you dont get an answer... This is the internet. Dont expect things from anyone. Just relax and wait. Sometimes, depending on the question, it can take days, weeks to get an answer. If you need people to hold your hand and wish you luck, try the Disney forum.
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haha, very funny, i know it was sarcasm, i just gave a serious answer...
i didnt expect anyone to hold my hand or give me an answer, i just would have thought some one would have something about something, like i said before, a lot of times people say good luck, or id be intersted in this too... i found it weird that no one said anything. i know you guys are mad because you couldnt understand my sarcasm, and that i was able to figure it out for myself. how come when i needed help no one said anything, but now that i have it figured out, you guys rant about me wanting everything handed to me, when thats not the case?
mods, please close thread, i got the problem fixed, and there is no need for this thread anymore...
pbleonidus said:
dont worry i got it working. thanks for all the help from those that posted! (obviously being sarcastic as no one posted anything)
if any one wants to know, i used max energy Co0kie Energy ROM
with the latest froyo stone android file thing
and a dual booter, ran into a few issues, but got it working
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and i didnt mean anything negative by this, i wasnt mad at anyone, i was just trying to be a little funny by throwing some sarcasm in there...
i am terribly sorry that you guys have no sense of humor and couldnt understand that... i though forums where supposed to be friendly, and people were supposed to be able to say funny and or sarcastic things without somone jumping on their back...
once again, please close thread.
it's all good in here man. We all just get a little bit of newbieitis where the only cure is to lash out at the newbs.
There is a lot to learn on this forum and by the time you learn it all, your device is out of date.
It seems you wanted to figure it all out in a night. Been using WinMo for about 2-3years now and I still don't have a clue most of the time.
pbleonidus, if that comment was just tongue-in-cheek, then it's all good, no harm no foul. Those types of comments are near-impossible to tell the difference between light-hearted and just disrespectful....and believe me, we get FAR more of the latter type in here...and that does tend to strike a bit of a raw nerve with those here who go to a lot of effort to help others.
So, a lesson in this for all of us: you're apparently not the type of snarky jerk that we run across so often, and we're not always able to generate answers as quickly as you might expect. Cool? Cool.
I'll get this thread closed for you.
Thread closed as requested.
WB
Ive never been this frustrated in trying to find how to guides before. Damn it Im just trying to figure out how to install MIUI on my bell sgs2 stock ugkg2 2.3.3 phone. Do I need to update my firmware first and if so with which one since there isnt a bell sgs2 update yet and once i download this firmaware, how the heck to I extract it since they have a password and samsung-firmwares.com does not work for password. /end rant
First you need a rooted kernel which you have to flash with odin. Either cf-root or hellcats or nimph kernel. The first thing after using are rooted is to BACKUP YOUR EFS FOLDER! Then boot into cwm and install MIUI zip from there.
There is a QA thread here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238494
For guide on how to flash the kernel have a look in cf-root kernel thread. For easy efs backup use hellcats application or manually do it, with the instructions in the relevant thread.
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Great thanks for the reply but how do I extract KG6 2.3.4 firmware? All the firmware Ive downloaded through Samfirmware.com so far has asked for a freaken password!?!?! and I dont have the slightest clue on where to find this password. Ive tried samsung-firmwares.com without any luck..../frustrated tweeker
Daniels45 said:
Great thanks for the reply but how do I extract KG6 2.3.4 firmware? All the firmware Ive downloaded through Samfirmware.com so far has asked for a freaken password!?!?! and I dont have the slightest clue on where to find this password. Ive tried samsung-firmwares.com without any luck..../frustrated tweeker
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That's because, as you said, you are a bloody noob. If you would have spent more than 20 seconds looking, you would have either find the password (even with google, the first result has it), either the thread explaining how to install it.
These forums have thousands (guessing) of members, imagine if everyone were an idiot like you, and posting **** like this, they would have to close it down.
password is: samfirmware.com
MIUI install instructions are here
TheSaw said:
That's because, as you said, you are a bloody noob. If you would have spent more than 20 seconds looking, you would have either find the password (even with google, the first result has it), either the thread explaining how to install it.
These forums have thousands (guessing) of members, imagine if everyone were an idiot like you, and posting **** like this, they would have to close it down.
password is: samfirmware.com
MIUI install instructions are here
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Its responses like this that show me how classless this place has become. Who the hell do you think you are ? Dont you think I havnt googled for the password first before asking here ?!?! I dont need 12 year old immature snob insults. Rather Im looking for mature, friendly, understanding responses from ADULT people who understand what it is to be a noob and that fast answers are not always easy to find, espeicailly when your new to the world of Android tweaking....thakns for nothing chump.!
Clicky here.
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Clicky here.
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Yes Im a newb and yes being a newb makes me look like Im an idiot to you know it alls but does that mean you have to be an asshole ?? I saw that video and I laughed my ass off but still, I dont wanna spend weeks looking for information that can be given in minuts !! I tried looking for quick and easy answers but nothing quite comes cloes to what i looking for. Just trying to fing the freaken password to extract kg6 firmware was a bloody pain in the but....btw samfirmware.com does not work
Daniels45 said:
Its responses like this that show me how classless this place has become.
Unfortunately its true driven mainly by users who wont search and fail to read instructions and want it all handed to them on a plate with repetitions of the same questions day after day .
I see no way around this problem as FAQS etc and rules are not read so the genuine user who asks a question as you did gets treated as if they could not be bothered to search read etc .It is partly due to the number of twelve year olds with Smartphones .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238494
jje
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JJEgan said:
Daniels45 said:
Its responses like this that show me how classless this place has become.
Unfortunately its true driven mainly by users who wont search and fail to read instructions and want it all handed to them on a plate with repetitions of the same questions day after day .
I see no way around this problem as FAQS etc and rules are not read so the genuine user who asks a question as you did gets treated as if they could not be bothered to search read etc .It is partly due to the number of twelve year olds with Smartphones .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238494
jje
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The problem Im having is first Im clueless in regards to android phones and 2nd lots of the information Ive been able to find in regards to rooting/upgrading firmware/updating roms are conflicting so that makes me insecure (I dont wanna brick my phone) 3rd I havnt been able to find...so far...explicit information that enables me to download and extract firmware with password for my bell ugkg2 SGS2.
Looks like Im gonna stick with stock till I can find a guide that goes through all the loops that a canadian bell user like me has to go through to upgrade firmware to 2.3.4 and upgrade to the latest MIUI.....
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As a fellow Canadian and a fellow user of the Samsung Galaxy S2 from Bell, I know these phones inside and out due to hours and hours and hours and hours and weeks and days and more hours and more hours and more hours......of research. I have no problem helping you out unlike that other character who is too much of a prick to help anybody out. Let me know if you still need my help. I don't mind taking you under my wing and showing you the ropes of our beasts and the wonderful world of Android.
jaybeno said:
As a fellow Canadian and a fellow user of the Samsung Galaxy S2 from Bell, I know these phones inside and out due to hours and hours and hours and hours and weeks and days and more hours and more hours and more hours......of research. I have no problem helping you out unlike that other character who is too much of a prick to help anybody out. Let me know if you still need my help. I don't mind taking you under my wing and showing you the ropes of our beasts and the wonderful world of Android.
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Thanks man for being a NICE guy...something people around here need to work on...Ok heres what Im trying to do. I wanna install the latest MIUI rom but from what Ive read, its needs 2.3.4 firmware. I downloaded KG6 firmware but Im unable to extract it du to password limitations and thats where Im stuck at.
Daniels45 said:
Thanks man for being a NICE guy...something people around here need to work on...Ok heres what Im trying to do. I wanna install the latest MIUI rom but from what Ive read, its needs 2.3.4 firmware. I downloaded KG6 firmware but Im unable to extract it du to password limitations and thats where Im stuck at.
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Bro, if you want MIUI you have to do TWO simple simple things from your stock bell state
go look for cfroot kernel thread (ill try to find it and link it for you) use the ones for kG2 firmware, this will root your phone and install CWM (the recovery needed to flash custom roms) this will root your phone on the bell firmware no stock required!
once this is done, download the latest miui zip, put on phone sd. boot into recovery and flash that mofo
You actually dont need stock/ kg6 at all to flash custom roms, but it is nice to learn how to use it for the sake of going back to stock!
I'm not changing my mind. They can take all noobs under their wings, but when I see incompetent idiots like you, I can't control myself. The password is on the same download page you got the file from, and I've already told you. You're here because you're bored, and you want attention, and you spent less than one minute searching for your answer. I know I am aggressive sometimes, but I do help people who put in some effort for something they want. I am also a beginner, so I'm not patronizing you, but what you failed to achieve has nothing to do with android at all. Now stop being a moron and creating a drama.
TheSaw said:
I'm not changing my mind. They can take all noobs under their wings, but when I see incompetent idiots like you, I can't control myself. The password is on the same download page you got the file from, and I've already told you. You're here because you're bored, and you want attention, and you spent less than one minute searching for your answer. I know I am aggressive sometimes, but I do help people who put in some effort for something they want. I am also a beginner, so I'm not patronizing you, but what you failed to achieve has nothing to do with android at all. Now stop being a moron and creating a drama.
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I understand you, but you shouldnt be this agressive. You could ignore this or just tell him to read the faq at samfirmwares. Just my opinion.
Daniel, posts like yours looks like spam as there is tons of posts asking for the same thing over and over. Try to read a bit more, start with the faqs.
About root and roms, start reading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134290
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130951
Good luck
TheSaw said:
I'm not changing my mind. They can take all noobs under their wings, but when I see incompetent idiots like you, I can't control myself. The password is on the same download page you got the file from, and I've already told you. You're here because you're bored, and you want attention, and you spent less than one minute searching for your answer. I know I am aggressive sometimes, but I do help people who put in some effort for something they want. I am also a beginner, so I'm not patronizing you, but what you failed to achieve has nothing to do with android at all. Now stop being a moron and creating a drama.
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I sort of have to agree with you minus the aggressive attitude. If you can't answer normally then simply don't answer. You're not only making yourself look like a F*cking idiot to about everyone that reads on these forums, but you are also making the community look bad and there are quite a few wonderful people on these boards.
On a side note, I am a newbie to when it comes to android systems (btw there is a difference between a Noob and Newbie, to bad most people don't remember that) but I did manage to root my phone and figure out how to install stock roms and other roms, within 15 minutes of searching. There are plenty of guides here on XDA telling you what flashing is, what roms are, what kernals are, what odin is for, what root system to use (CF-Root) etc.
Its not that hard, so i do agree with you on that.
Syrellaris said:
(btw there is a difference between a Noob and Newbie, to bad most people don't remember that)
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I wasn't aware of this. Care to enlighten this senior gentleman? I'm not down with you young hipsters...
And I agree 110% with TheSaw - the OP wants spoonfeeding and has the cheek to "rant" about it. "Spending weeks searching"!!?? Oh behave...
B3311 said:
I wasn't aware of this. Care to enlighten this senior gentleman? I'm not down with you young hipsters...
And I agree 110% with TheSaw - the OP wants spoonfeeding and has the cheek to "rant" about it. "Spending weeks searching"!!?? Oh behave...
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<PSA>
Newbie: Someone new to something, just starting out, learning.
Noob: Someone whos been around for a while and just wont learn, someone who needs spoon feeding, someone who doesnt want to help themselves.
We are all Newbies at some point, some get better, others turn into noobs.
</PSA>
Okay, I apologize for my aggressive behavior. I did however help him in my first post after ranting. And yes, I do know the difference between "noob" and "newbie", and I give him credit for correctly categorizing himself in the "noob" group in his thread's title. And on that note... it's common sense and forum rules not to create threads with titles like this. I'm just really not patient with people, sorry
Over and out, carry on without me.
TheSaw said:
Okay, I apologize for my aggressive behavior. I did however help him in my first post after ranting. And yes, I do know the difference between "noob" and "newbie", and I give him credit for correctly categorizing himself in the "noob" group in his thread's title. And on that note... it's common sense and forum rules not to create threads with titles like this. I'm just really not patient with people, sorry
Over and out, carry on without me.
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You can have a go at the ten identical posts today What Rom /best rom/which rom /recommended rom
I have learnt to move past a post if i consider the user to be lazy and not bothered to read etc .But not always i am afraid .
jje
I fear for your phone.
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hay
kindly tell me a simple to partioin my nexus one for ics.
am i partioin any nexus model with blackrose.
sorry for my english
waiting for help
Check it here.. There is different thread for installing blackrose as well.. Try finding out.. simple instructions are in below thread..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1270589
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
I would say u need to be a bit careful wid blackrose. Cos its not as easy like flashing a rom. I would recommend you to go thru the blackrose thread carefully to make things clear. If u get any doubts u can ask it and clear things out
Sent from my Nexus One using Tapatalk
There should be CLEAR instructions in the OP of the Blackrose thread. This **** is ridiculous.
What do I need? Do I need the Android SDK? If I do, can I install it on a seperate drive? I don't need ****e clogging up my SSD. No one has stated I need the SDK, hence why I haven't bothered with it. If it is needed, then my point about none of it being CLEAR is reinforced.
Been trying to figure this **** out for hours. Seen countless numbers of posts with people trying to give instructions. I try these things to find that I have missed something because I can't complete a step or some other problem.
And did I mention how helpful the installation video was in the OP? Really good stuff, that.
Any actual help will be appreciated. Gonna jump off the nearest cliff if someone suggests to read through the thread again. Which seems to be the only thing that people like to tell others in these "help" threads.
Cheers.
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There should be CLEAR instructions in the OP of the Blackrose thread. This **** is ridiculous.
What do I need? Do I need the Android SDK? If I do, can I install it on a seperate drive? I don't need ****e clogging up my SSD. No one has stated I need the SDK, hence why I haven't bothered with it. If it is needed, then my point about none of it being CLEAR is reinforced.
Been trying to figure this **** out for hours. Seen countless numbers of posts with people trying to give instructions. I try these things to find that I have missed something because I can't complete a step or some other problem.
And did I mention how helpful the installation video was in the OP? Really good stuff, that.
Any actual help will be appreciated. Gonna jump off the nearest cliff if someone suggests to read through the thread again. Which seems to be the only thing that people like to tell others in these "help" threads.
Cheers.
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I think you will get an earful from other members after they read your post. Calm down and don't vent your anger on this portal. If the instructions from the OP are not clear, just ask and we will help you.
Adster3000 said:
There should be CLEAR instructions in the OP of the Blackrose thread. This **** is ridiculous.
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Should be? Really? Says who? Take your entitlement straight to the door. People here are doing things for free and sharing their knowledge... and you are demanding to be spoon-fed it.
Adster3000 said:
What do I need? Do I need the Android SDK? If I do, can I install it on a seperate drive? I don't need ****e clogging up my SSD. No one has stated I need the SDK, hence why I haven't bothered with it. If it is needed, then my point about none of it being CLEAR is reinforced.
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Do you know what the SDK is? If not, maybe you should read up on what it is and why you would need it.
No, you do not need the SDK installed. You do need the drivers for your device installed though, both for fastboot and normal mode.
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Been trying to figure this **** out for hours. Seen countless numbers of posts with people trying to give instructions. I try these things to find that I have missed something because I can't complete a step or some other problem.
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Hours? When I got my first smartphone many years ago, I spend months lurking around this site trying to take in as much knowledge as I could before even attempting to flash anything. I wanted to make sure that I understood everything I was doing before doing it -- I did not want to blindly follow someone's step by step.
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And did I mention how helpful the installation video was in the OP? Really good stuff, that.
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You're lucky you even got a video.
Adster3000 said:
Any actual help will be appreciated. Gonna jump off the nearest cliff if someone suggests to read through the thread again. Which seems to be the only thing that people like to tell others in these "help" threads.
Cheers.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
efrant said:
Should be? Really? Says who? Take your entitlement straight to the door. People here are doing things for free and sharing their knowledge... and you are demanding to be spoon-fed it.
Do you know what the SDK is? If not, maybe you should read up on what it is and why you would need it.
No, you do not need the SDK installed. You do need the drivers for your device installed though, both for fastboot and normal mode.
Hours? When I got my first smartphone many years ago, I spend months lurking around this site trying to take in as much knowledge as I could before even attempting to flash anything. I wanted to make sure that I understood everything I was doing before doing it -- I did not want to blindly follow someone's step by step.
You're lucky you even got a video.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
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Insulting people always helps!
taodan said:
I think you will get an earful from other members after they read your post. Calm down and don't vent your anger on this portal. If the instructions from the OP are not clear, just ask and we will help you.
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This is much more helpful. My apologies.
If I were the one creating these sorts of things for others (and myself,) I'd very much like it to be as simple as possible for the end-user. I'd like as much support as possible and I would be isolating the majority by making it more difficult than it could be. I shouldn't need a developer's knowledge to be able to take advantage of a developer's work.
I'm sure I just missed something simple. It wasn't the drivers. After I installed them and tried the Blackrose exe again, it stops at "waiting for device." Read through some of the thread, not understanding half of it, as you would expect, and didn't come across anything that could have helped me with my problem.
Any ideas?
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If I were the one creating these sorts of things for others (and myself,) I'd very much like it to be as simple as possible for the end-user. I'd like as much support as possible and I would be isolating the majority by making it more difficult than it could be. I shouldn't need a developer's knowledge to be able to take advantage of a developer's work.
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I think what you posted above is where the problem is. People here are not creating things here for others. They are developing something, and sharing it with others.
And I guess, you didn't read the comment in the link in my previous post. Otherwise, it probably would have been more clear.
I'm not trying to insult. On the contrary, I am trying to help you figure it out, not have someone figure it out for you, in the spirit of xda-developers, not xda-support-desk.
Adster3000 said:
I'm sure I just missed something simple. It wasn't the drivers. After I installed them and tried the Blackrose exe again, it stops at "waiting for device." Read through some of the thread, not understanding half of it, as you would expect, and didn't come across anything that could have helped me with my problem.
Any ideas?
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It's funny, but I remember more than one individual having the same issue in the Blackrose thread. And I remember mentioning to at least one individual that they could try to flash Blackrose manually, instead of using the installer. But maybe you missed that. Or did you not read the entire thread?
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But maybe you missed that. Or did you not read the entire thread?
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lol, seriously?
There are 956 posts in the Blackrose thread alone. Expecting someone to read EVERY single post and absorb all of that information at one time is a bit proposterous. I'd bet it'd take a good 3-4 hours to just read that single thread.
I'm not saying we should spoon feed the newbs (especially the ones who can't follow simple instructions, like not posting a question in a forum with a big sticky at the top that explicitly says "WARNING - DO *NOT* POST QUESTIONS IN THIS FORUM - only tips/info/etc."), but at what point do we say... hey, this is how you do it, these 900 posts don't matter, or are outdated, or are duplicate questions...
GldRush98 said:
lol, seriously?
There are 956 posts in the Blackrose thread alone. Expecting someone to read EVERY single post and absorb all of that information at one time is a bit proposterous. I'd bet it'd take a good 3-4 hours to just read that single thread.
I'm not saying we should spoon feed the newbs (especially the ones who can't follow simple instructions, like not posting a question in a forum with a big sticky at the top that explicitly says "WARNING - DO *NOT* POST QUESTIONS IN THIS FORUM - only tips/info/etc."), but at what point do we say... hey, this is how you do it, these 900 posts don't matter, or are outdated, or are duplicate questions...
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I WAS being serious. Maybe it's just me, but I like learning, and I like helping those who like to learn. And don't tell me it's because people don't have time to read them...I work 60-70 hours a week, take post-graduate classes, raise 3 kids (which includes going to soccer games, homework, skating and dance lessons), and I still have time to read some threads, write up some guides, and help others.
If I want to flash something, I read the entire thread, so I learn from others' mistakes. When I had my Nexus One and I wanted Blackrose, I read every post in that Blackrose thread, up until I replaced the N1. I guess I have a hard time understanding someone who doesn't, and then complains that the guides should be better, and saying "this $%!& is ridiculous".
One of the things people need to develop skills for, if they're doing anything technical, is SEARCH. It helps a lot to filter out the crap, because it's indeed impossible or at least unreal to read threads of 300+ replies. But searching helps. Noobs should start working on their google-fu.
I agree that Blackrose thread isn't the simplest around. But just think - it's not more and not less, but bootloader replacement! The very thing that noobs SHOULD NOT TOUCH until they understand what they're doing.
So, the first response should be - if you don't understand how to do something, STAY AWAY UNTIL YOU DO. And indeed, go vent somewhere else. This isn't a forum for pleasing users.
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and I still have time to read some threads, write up some guides, and help others.
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Ha.
Forget I asked, then.
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Ha.
Forget I asked, then.
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So let me get this straight: You are looking for help (despite not having read the Blackrose thread), I give you two suggestions (check you driver install and flash the modified hboot manually, both are in the Blackrose thread), and you are still flippant and not happy?
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okay my n7 wifi tab is currently stuck with no os.i accidentally wiped everything out in recovery and no toolkit is working.its not downloading and installing the files to extract and install correctly.please help me before i break this thing.thanks in advance
stop using a toolkit.
use adb to push a rom zip to your device
OR
use fastboot to flash stock google images to device
if it doesnt work there, you will at least get an indication of what the problem is.
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stop using a toolkit.
use adb to push a rom zip to your device
OR
use fastboot to flash stock google images to device
if it doesnt work there, you will at least get an indication of what the problem is.
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dont really know how to push files through adb.how to?
figured it out.i found a factory image on me ext hdd and used it. i forgot to mention i had no adb drivers on my comp. downloaded from asustek and tried using wugs and adb wouldnt pick up.used google nexus 7 toolkit and got it done.
so you still didnt learn anything out of this ordeal...
SMH
of course did...smh 2u. first thing learned, dont factory reset then format data again....thats where it began.and if you are meaning sideload,yes i did that a few minutes ago. thanks guy
podagee said:
of course did...smh 2u. first thing learned, dont factory reset then format data again....thats where it began.and if you are meaning sideload,yes i did that a few minutes ago. thanks guy
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I am guessing you still dont know what the toolkit does in the background though....
THAT is what I was referring to. Toolkits are whats wrong with the Nexus forums these days. Kids dont want to learn anything on a DEVELOPERS forum...
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I am guessing you still dont know what the toolkit does in the background though....
THAT is what I was referring to. Toolkits are whats wrong with the Nexus forums these days. Kids dont want to learn anything on a DEVELOPERS forum...
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well i was trying to learn developement but due to the fact that my satellite p755-s5393 i7 octo-core does not play nice with linux's wifi, i cant learn developement as of yet. so therefore i choose not to learn it, yet.
oh and instead of being sarcastic about things it would be a lot better for help and knowledge not bs. thank you anyway though.
trying to make yourself known as what it does and how to develop, enlighten a few, not throw us to the wolves. have a good evening.
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well i was trying to learn developement but due to the fact that my satellite p755-s5393 i7 octo-core does not play nice with linux's wifi, i cant learn developement as of yet. so therefore i choose not to learn it, yet.
oh and instead of being sarcastic about things it would be a lot better for help and knowledge not bs. thank you anyway though.
trying to make yourself known as what it does and how to develop, enlighten a few, not throw us to the wolves. have a good evening.
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Bahahahahahahahaha
Yeah. OK. I tried helping you and you ignored the advice. Good luck 'learning development'
I do hope you comprehend the irony of your entire thread before responding.
Wants to learn development.
Uses a toolkit.
Also you could man up and get your WiFi working in Linux (I haven't seen a chip that just won't work in Linux) or you could use a VM to learn. Since you know, you had to tell us what a badass laptop you have, it should support a VM nicely.
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okay my n7 wifi tab is currently stuck with no os.i accidentally wiped everything out in recovery and no toolkit is working.its not downloading and installing the files to extract and install correctly.please help me before i break this thing.thanks in advance
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Bahahahahahahahaha
Yeah. OK. I tried helping you and you ignored the advice. Good luck 'learning development'
I do hope you comprehend the irony of your entire thread before responding.
Wants to learn development.
Uses a toolkit.
Also you could man up and get your WiFi working in Linux (I haven't seen a chip that just won't work in Linux) or you could use a VM to learn. Since you know, you had to tell us what a badass laptop you have, it should support a VM nicely.
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I think that Pirateghost has a point with regard to toolkits...
@podagee.. you really do need to get used to using fastboot/ADB and similar command line interfaces, and subsequently eschew toolkits. Particularly if you want to get involved in development work.
But I also 'feel' that @Pirateghost has become somewhat jaded and cynical with regard to beginners, who perhaps just need a bit of a helping hand. (Not that I'm saying you didn't give it here, Pirateghost).
I'm not having a go at you, Pirateghost... in fact, I enjoy reading your frequent scathing and withering comments (oft times, they make me laugh out loud)... but everybody was a beginner once - even yourself, some nearly 7,800 posts ago.
Just my thoughts anyway... (don't mean to irritate anybody).
Rgrds,
Ged.
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Bahahahahahahahaha
Yeah. OK. I tried helping you and you ignored the advice. Good luck 'learning development'
I do hope you comprehend the irony of your entire thread before responding.
Wants to learn development.
Uses a toolkit.
Also you could man up and get your WiFi working in Linux (I haven't seen a chip that just won't work in Linux) or you could use a VM to learn. Since you know, you had to tell us what a badass laptop you have, it should support a VM nicely.
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Oh I never noticed you were trying to help, next time be helpful not stupid. You have no points. Read your own posts before you post more. Of course I can get my WiFi working,but, I don't have the time. I go on a 6 month vacation in 3 days, so I really,honestly don't have the time. Thanks for all the helpful input pirate it didn't help at all. Now....I'm sure we all have better things to do
Reread my first post in this thread and tell me I wasn't trying to point you in the right direction.
You know that old saying, teach a man to fish?
Again I say,
Claims to want to learn development.
Uses toolkit.
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Reread my first post in this thread and tell me I wasn't trying to point you in the right direction.
You know that old saying, teach a man to fish?
Again I say,
Claims to want to learn development.
Uses toolkit.
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i never claimed anything i said i would.your teachings??all you said was if i knew what a toolkit does in the background.you know what...im tired of playing with you.you bore me.bye
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i never claimed anything i said i would.your teachings??all you said was if i knew what a toolkit does in the background.you know what...im tired of playing with you.you bore me.bye
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You called me stupid and said I wasn't trying to help. I have a feeling you don't even understand the words you are typing. I think I will go talk to my 9 yr old son for a better conversation. Have a good day.
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Maybe you should talk to your 9year old son since he's on your level,haha.take it easy pirateghost. You actually sparked some interest with me, so, I went ahead and read about toolkits and adb and fast boot. You should of put your words into better terms, not so sarcastic, but, I eventually read about what you were saying, or trying to say. Now I see that adb and fast boot are in fact way better and more reliable than any toolkits. Thanks for the motivation to read
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Maybe you should talk to your 9year old son since he's on your level,haha.take it easy pirateghost. You actually sparked some interest with me, so, I went ahead and read about toolkits and adb and fast boot. You should of put your words into better terms, not so sarcastic, but, I eventually read about what you were saying, or trying to say. Now I see that adb and fast boot are in fact way better and more reliable than any toolkits. Thanks for the motivation to read
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That's all I want people to do.
THINK and READ.
You learn better that way.
Ponder this for a moment. If I were not so abrasive and annoying would you have done any of that reading? Or would you have just gone on about your business and put your blinders on?
Sometimes you have to goad people to get them to act and respond. I don't mind making some enemies to get a point across.
I am glad you took the time to learn the basic tools of the trade.
No enemies made here my bradda..I get frustrated with people of your kind ,but, if that's what helps us learn then so be it. Thank you for the tough love pirate ghost.