why are there so many noobs filling up the dev section with questions or stupid things that can be answered with just a simple search theres 3 pages of crap and not really anything is out development wise for our phones but what is out and in the works is greatly appreciated
Cool story, bro!
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Cool story, bro!
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lol im just saying once stuff actually does get released there's gonna be lots of crap around it kinda like one thread in dev saying froyo??? all it is, is a link saying that froyo is available for european phones that really shouldn't be in the dev section
Agreed.. I'm sick of the 3g question...
I really like the fact that it takes multiple people to post the same thing in each thread.
Kind of feels like Office Space around here =\
have you turned in your tps reports?
Why are there so many elitist snobs who think their own **** never stank?
be a helper, point people in the right direction, dont be a douchebag and you will encourage community involvement otherwise people will think most people here are a bunch of asses and it encourages the take without given back mentality.
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Why are there so many elitist snobs who think their own **** never stank?
be a helper, point people in the right direction, dont be a douchebag and you will encourage community involvement otherwise people will think most people here are a bunch of asses and it encourages the take without given back mentality.
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well as in being a douche bag im not im simply stating im tired of noobs posting in the wrong section, and i do help and tell them they are in the wrong section. And as for your statement, i dont see how that has to do with anything accept you being a noob and not understanding where im coming from. ive been here a while and helped lots as for you i cant say the same... so i think you should take your own advice.
That's why I made the sticky, that SOME neglect.
Just remember we were ALL NOOBS at one point wen we started here. Theirs really no need on cracking on sumone cause they dont kno anything and all their trying to do is learn.. Yea it blows that theirs all the silly questions and dis and dat out their but all that rlly needs to b done is point them to the rite section, you know why.. Simple, because if u dont help others, others wont help you pretty simple rite??
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Just a lot of lazy people who doesn't care about reading simple rules or care about them, they just want someone to answer their question when they have one and then move one happily with their phone.
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Just remember we were ALL NOOBS at one point wen we started here. Theirs really no need on cracking on sumone cause they dont kno anything and all their trying to do is learn.. Yea it blows that theirs all the silly questions and dis and dat out their but all that rlly needs to b done is point them to the rite section, you know why.. Simple, because if u dont help others, others wont help you pretty simple rite??
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Props to that people who wants to learn, but the ones who really wants to do it, they search and read, that's the best way of learning about something, just my point of view... anyhow life goes on so we need to point them to the right direction, always respectfully.
cico7 said:
Just remember we were ALL NOOBS at one point wen we started here. Theirs really no need on cracking on sumone cause they dont kno anything and all their trying to do is learn.. Yea it blows that theirs all the silly questions and dis and dat out their but all that rlly needs to b done is point them to the rite section, you know why.. Simple, because if u dont help others, others wont help you pretty simple rite??
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yes of course i agree but im putting this just to state that all this is getting out of hand and we cant do anything cause we really dont have a mod yet for the vibrant section... and i still help out of course and dont really bash on anyone in here cause its uncalled for...
KerryG said:
Why are there so many elitist snobs who think their own **** never stank?
be a helper, point people in the right direction, dont be a douchebag and you will encourage community involvement otherwise people will think most people here are a bunch of asses and it encourages the take without given back mentality.
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I think it's out of frustration. I've been on these forums READING for over a year just about every day. The DEV section should be the most moderated. There ends up being so much noise once it starts rolling, it's hard to keep up with any legitimate development changes or updates. Some people handle it "nicer" than others, but the point being, if people took the time to read before they type, their questions and comments are probably already covered. It's just frustrating seeing 3-4 mi gps iz brok threads on one page. Moderators will usually merge them so there is one cohesive conversation, not spread out over multiple threads. Why make them have to do that?
Think before you speak in forumese means read before you type.
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well as in being a douche bag im not im simply stating im tired of noobs posting in the wrong section, and i do help and tell them they are in the wrong section. And as for your statement, i dont see how that has to do with anything accept you being a noob and not understanding where im coming from. ive been here a while and helped lots as for you i cant say the same... so i think you should take your own advice.
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This Thread is useless, But seriously if you have been in different forums here on XDA from the very beginning, you will notice they are all like that and once roms and stuff starts getting developed, the amount of people asking and posting in wrong forums get minimized. I saw it with the G1, mytouch, htc Hero (EU), Nexus one, and now on here..... so if it upsets you that badly, create a site of your own and make it so that each user must take a "im not a noob Test" in order to become a member///-- End of Joke-- Or Just Wait a little longer for a Mod to be designated to clean out the mess.
i think it's due to a lot of people not realizing that this is a pretty technical forum so they think because they are asking a question that seems technical to them, they need to post it in the section that seems the most advanced. when really, dev is and should be just that, development. maybe 'general' should be renamed 'questions and help' or something.
but i'm a noob. i've been lurking and reading a bit, just don't post much. but i have to say, the first thread i made i got flamed (k, just toasted a little) because i asked for drivers AND help (in the right section), turns out the drivers everyone pointed me to i already had, so that was no help, and the other threads i read about mounting the phone didn't help. turned out the usb ports on the front of my pc just didn't like the phone, but of course it took posting a thread on here to make me think of something that simple.
that's my $.02
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i think it's due to a lot of people not realizing that this is a pretty technical forum so they think because they are asking a question that seems technical to them, they need to post it in the section that seems the most advanced. when really, dev is and should be just that, development. maybe 'general' should be renamed 'questions and help' or something.
but i'm a noob. i've been lurking and reading a bit, just don't post much. but i have to say, the first thread i made i got flamed (k, just toasted a little) because i asked for drivers AND help (in the right section), turns out the drivers everyone pointed me to i already had, so that was no help, and the other threads i read about mounting the phone didn't help. turned out the usb ports on the front of my pc just didn't like the phone, but of course it took posting a thread on here to make me think of something that simple.
that's my $.02
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i agree with you on this about people thinking it should be in dev and all that and it sounds reasonable i wass just hoping that maybe whoever sees and reads this will realize they should post here instead of the dev section even though there are stickies... i thought stupid noobs would bring some people in to read this lol
Skater, what are you talking about? The first post you posted in the development section was...
Uh, will the htc_ime work on this phone?
You, yourself posted a question about an app in the development section, and then got mad when I told you to search...
what did you yield? the apk.. how long did it take? not long...
when is the last time you actually sat down to help someone? to answer some questions? not just pulled up the dev section hoping there was a new rom out...
Dont stir the pot with this... just answer there question and educate them to post in the correct place, read the forum rules, or to search.. if a post gets out of hand, PM a Moderator and ask them to move/close a thread.. A wise man once said, contribute to the community or STFU...
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Skater, what are you talking about? The first post you posted in the development section was...
Uh, will the htc_ime work on this phone?
You, yourself posted a question about an app in the development section, and then got mad when I told you to search...
what did you yield? the apk.. how long did it take? not long...
when is the last time you actually sat down to help someone? to answer some questions? not just pulled up the dev section hoping there was a new rom out...
Dont stir the pot with this... just answer there question and educate them to post in the correct place, read the forum rules, or to search.. if a post gets out of hand, PM a Moderator and ask them to move/close a thread.. A wise man once said, contribute to the community or STFU...
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well if you would have correctly looked at the post i said it worked but didnt work right and yes i found one that worked but thats cause i had to try 3 or 4 different ones until i came across one that worked and how can you search something that nothing was made for? and i answer questions all the time i help when i can all i see you doing is saying search for it yourself or this is the wrong section but never did you give any advice as where to find something or anything helpful so you should listen to yourself and take your own advice and ive helped some by finding that apk that does work... more than i can say for you
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That's why I made the sticky, that SOME neglect.
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You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. It's on you. Put a page before the dev forum explaining this is not a place for ideas tell them where to go this is a place to talk code basically. Give examples of common instances. Ie. The post about 2.2 the person was probably trying to be helpful (like devs wouldn't know). If you want peace say if you're unsure post in general and let s mod move it if necessary. Stop crying and do something about it. Personally I'm tired of both sides. I just want to make my phone better and help where I can.
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First of all let me say thank you to everyone here. You have all been very helpful. Now to my question. First is there any fix for this annoying ass voicer mail notifier. I dismiss it and it doesn't go away. Second of all I'm new to all this, and I dont have a ton of extra stuff on my PPC but it seems to run slow. Closing out slow, and pulling up programs slow. Any suggestions as always would be GREATLY appreciated. Also what does applying all these different ROMS do for you. I see that everywhere. Let me apologize ahead of time for my ignorance. : )
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First of all let me say thank you to everyone here. You have all been very helpful. Now to my question. First is there any fix for this annoying ass voicer mail notifier.
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That would somehow be different than the annoying ass noobie that can't bother to read a single thread/wiki article and hides this blatant disregard for the culture of xda-devs by posting how you've "learned lots"?
johnnyshu0129 said:
I dismiss it and it doesn't go away.
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Funny, that's what we tried to do with noobies that can't read threads/wiki, but, it didn't work either
johnnyshu0129 said:
Second of all I'm new to all this, and I dont have a ton of extra stuff on my PPC but it seems to run slow. Closing out slow, and pulling up programs slow. Any suggestions as always would be GREATLY appreciated. Also what does applying all these different ROMS do for you. I see that everywhere. Let me apologize ahead of time for my ignorance. : )
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You can apologise all you want, but, until you RTFW (read the "fine" wiki), you're not going to get a lot of help.
Wow, you guys sure are pleasant around here.
callmemoe said:
Wow, you guys sure are pleasant around here.
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It's kinda annoying wading through the massive amounts of stupidity on here asking the same questions over and over again because NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE F***ING SEARCH BUTTON IS FOR!!
I think it's kind of annoying wading through posts (after using the search button, by the way) thinking that someone has an answer to or a tip for a problem that I may have too only to find that someone is ripping on them for asking a question.
callmemoe said:
I think it's kind of annoying wading through posts (after using the search button, by the way) thinking that someone has an answer to or a tip for a problem that I may have too only to find that someone is ripping on them for asking a question.
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I am sympathetic to this point -- this forum has become so popular the key threads end up with 100's of msg., often out of sequence so it's really hard to follow when you're looking for something -- and it seems like most of my searches come up with thread references (usually the long ones) not specific msg. hits. Whether callmemoe looked hard enough on his own, I think the moderators and senior members need to take a look at the length of the key threads and cut some slack here!
There are two features that will help:
1) You can search and select to view the POSTS themselves, not just the threads. This is a big help.
2) You can search WITHIN a thread. Go to the thread you are interested in, and use the Thread Search option at the top of the thread. This will help you sort through the 800+ messages in a popular thread.
Oh, and sometimes, you just have to read ALL 800 messages!
I seldomly ask questions on here, because I lurk more, and learn more. The search button does work, tho a little tricky at first! I think some people can be a little too harsh on newbies when all you have to say is "use the search first, then ask later!" and just leave it at that. Johnnyshu0129, I encourage you to do alot of reading and keyword searching. To every question you have asked on here its already been discussed or is being discussed! Everything i wanted to know about my 8525 was relatively easy to find on here. Once youve done your research and, if theres something that you just cant grasp, then ask, because the vets on here, are really nice and love to help those who take out the time to help themselves first. They put in alot of work and time making programs and posting information that theyve discovered. All you have to do is wiki, and search button!
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the vets on here, are really nice and love to help those who take out the time to help themselves first. They put in alot of work and time making programs and posting information that theyve discovered. All you have to do is wiki, and search button!
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I think I speak for all the senior members when I say that we will gladly help *anyone* who we see as taking the time to at least TRY to understand what they're doing. Lord knows, I didn't get it the first time through, and I even bugged Pof about some issues.. But, it was filling in pieces of the puzzle that I didn't understand initially--not to ask for hand-holding.
It's OK to ask things like, "I understand that you can flash your OS and BootLoader using mtty, and also by using SSPL. I'd like to understand the differences between the two methods--is there a wiki page that has a comparison of the two?"
It's NOT ok to ask things like, "I'm a n00b and I want to install a winmob6 on my ph0ne. How do I do that?"
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I think I speak for all the senior members when I say that we will gladly help *anyone* who we see as taking the time to at least TRY to understand what they're doing.
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Because being here 4 months with 100+ posts makes you a senior member? You are only a "senior member" because of your post count. That and a buck 50 wont even get you on the train. Posts like this make your "senior" status less credible.
Why not swallow your pride and answer the question.
Speed issues?
Delete your pocket IE history and temporary files. Voicemail reminder I can't help with.
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Where do babies come from? I have searched the entire site, and still no answer.
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Where do babies come from? I have searched the entire site, and still no answer.
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I knew there was something missing on the wiki
Mike
dma1965 said:
Where do babies come from? I have searched the entire site, and still no answer.
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Because being here 4 months with 100+ posts makes you a senior member? You are only a "senior member" because of your post count.
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Well, sure.. That, and I've actually READ the WIKI and appropriate threads on here to know what the hell I'm talking about.
I even know how to use the search function! I know, it's a strange concept to some here, but, searches, and wiki reading are actually USEFUL!
I have also read the WiKi and all the appropriate posts. My phone still works, and I didn't have to post any questions. But that still doesn't stop me from answering a question. I don't think its always neccessary to grille a noob.
@teknics - that's great.. Hang around here long enough, and contribute back to the community by posting/answering good questions, or even taking it upon yourself to solve a common problem/concern, and you'll be a valuable addition to this community.
It's not about posting questions or answering them. It's about discovery and helping each other figure things out. The spoon-feeding is in the Wiki.
Oh, and the other thing that bugs me is that n00b's will create new threads when their post belongs in an existing thread. New threads do NOT get noticed 'more' than a new post in an existing thread.
I doubt I will ever contribute anything the likes of Pof or Sleuth, but I do plan on sticking around.
I just get annoyed when people act dumb on forums, so I appologize if I sounded harsh.
Charming gentleman this legolas.
Respect
I will do more searching before asking. I understand where your all coming from. And I respect that. I will reveiw more before asking questions. I appreciate the help from everyone. Maybe one day I'll be able to contribute as much as I take from this site.
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@teknics - that's great.. Hang around here long enough, and contribute back to the community by posting/answering good questions, or even taking it upon yourself to solve a common problem/concern, and you'll be a valuable addition to this community.
It's not about posting questions or answering them. It's about discovery and helping each other figure things out. The spoon-feeding is in the Wiki.
Oh, and the other thing that bugs me is that n00b's will create new threads when their post belongs in an existing thread. New threads do NOT get noticed 'more' than a new post in an existing thread.
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If you truly wish to provide help, then your initial response should have been something along the line of: "Hey, I did a search and found this, <LINK>, maybe it'll help."
Instead of stating how stupid someone is to ask a question that has been already asked...
Any forum will have more 'lurkers' than posters, your response will not help these folks become active members here.
There is no such thing as a stupid question, but I have seen many stupid answers...
I say we post here asking for the two jerk offs that are destroying this dev forum to be ban from this community pleas show your support with a simple “ ban this jerk off”
Please Mods Ban this guy
jdkoreclipse
and his little butt buddy also he is nothing but a pain in our neck
And thank you to all the legit devs that have taken the task of conquering the droid x and for all the hard work you are still putting in cant wait to see the progress over the coming months
couple of links for you to read just showing a portion of this guys spam and the effect he has on our community
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=763477
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7818595&postcount=106
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=108
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=762527
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=763384
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761938
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7812468&postcount=97
mods please ban, i visit other forums for jokes, not xda
regardless to how common knowledge their bs is perhaps you should post some links etc
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I thought we are trying to hack some cell phones here. Who the hell do you think you are making a thread "in android development" that is trying to ban someone! This thread should be taken down ASAP!
andre104623 said:
I thought we are trying to hack some cell phones here. Who the hell do you think you are making a thread "in android development" that is trying to ban someone! This thread should be taken down ASAP!
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im no one special i just see tons of post by this guy disrupting the community and i am no dev but eithier is this guy but he claims to be and spams our community with multiple accounts he is nothing but trouble
people like this are the reason xda has been slowly receeding from the android community as a creditable source that is sad because we have a lot of talent floating around here and there used to be productive convos on this forum
andre104623 said:
I thought we are trying to hack some cell phones here. Who the hell do you think you are making a thread "in android development" that is trying to ban someone! This thread should be taken down ASAP!
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Agreed...this is the crap we need out of the dev forum. Mods please move...
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im no one special i just see tons of post by this guy disrupting the community and i am no dev but eithier is this guy but he claims to be and spams our community with multiple accounts he is nothing but trouble
people like this are the reason xda has been slowly receeding from the android community as a creditable source that is sad because we have a lot of talent floating around here and there used to be productive convos on this forum
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That's not your job
i know its not my job because if it was this guy would be gone
grndnpnd said:
im no one special i just see tons of post by this guy disrupting the community and i am no dev but eithier is this guy but he claims to be and spams our community with multiple accounts he is nothing but trouble
people like this are the reason xda has been slowly receeding from the android community as a creditable source that is sad because we have a lot of talent floating around here and there used to be productive convos on this forum
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Im not supporting this person doing this **** but try to understand this is for android development of the droid x not some kind of blog
and what do you call what he is doing do you see the 2000 views he has had on his bs thread about a droid x rom that makes everyone that is working hard to put something out look bad man we cant let him keep getting away with this its not his first time nor on his first device go read the 100+ post on his dominate rom post in your android dev forum i dont see you over there telling him to stop
The mods have stepped in now i dont know how to remove a thread but i would be more than happy to do so i appologize if i offended you but that kid had to go man
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and what do you call what he is doing do you see the 2000 views he has had on his bs thread about a droid x rom that makes everyone that is working hard to put something out look bad man we cant let him keep getting away with this its not his first time nor on his first device go read the 100+ post on his dominate rom post in your android dev forum i dont see you over there telling him to stop
The mods have stepped in now i dont know how to remove a thread but i would be more than happy to do so i appologize if i offended you but that kid had to go man
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Well Im going to be blunt about this He is a sick **** that likes getting his kicks off by posting fake threads, he is a dumb ass, a lier, and a ****. But even if he gets baned and he will because he has got baned before he will make a new screen name and do it all over again
It is pretty pathetic that his posts go to such an extent that he even puts lengthy changelogs for roms he never even makes.
I think we should all cut him a break and let him stay. I feel kinda bad for a kid thats got nothing else to do. I mean come on, its got to be really bad for him if thats what he calls fun. So sad....Im actually gonna cry a bit. Nevermind I got over it.
This keeps getting weirder. Looking at OP's post history, and I can't help but think that it's actually the same kid. I truly think we're dealing with a troubled young person who has unsupervised 'net access.
This should be moved to "General" forum or something. It honestly doesn't belong in the Dev section. Although it was entertaining.
**** all of you haters...especially arronjb and andre ****face.....
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This keeps getting weirder. Looking at OP's post history, and I can't help but think that it's actually the same kid. I truly think we're dealing with a troubled young person who has unsupervised 'net access.
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im not the same kid lol
what about my post history ok i have said some stupid things not understanding (Efuse) but i admit i dont understand and i take the things that people say and learn from them. i never claim to work on a project i dont have the know how to complete or even start.
never have i been a burdon to this community being slightly ignorant in the programing and hardware aspect of these devices and os is not a crime and i have always felt the it was incouraged to learn here. so thats what im doing learning im not a devoloper and never have claimed to be one i have offered up my device for testing because i can afford to replace my device if it bricks because i want to see the droid x become as custamizable one day as my poor excuse for an android eris but w/e man think what you will
i am normaly a silent observer and donator so step off bro
This kid really does need the boot, he does nothing but bring drama to this community and this site. He needs to be banned not only for what he's done, but what he might do in the future, he's a virus. There are far too many good people here that want to learn and share info with each other, but this kid basically ruins it for the rest of us. Please do us all a favor and get rid of him(and get rid of him again when he makes a new screen name).
Booooot him!
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This isnt the way to handle the situation guys........you are feeding his addiction, how much you want to bet he's sitting there mashing the f5 button anxsiouly waiting to see what everyone is saying about him? After reading his thread about making a Nexus One kernel, I do agree it is getting out of hand but this truly is a job for the mods, the community IS his addicition, and all we are doing is feeding it. I wish I had a solution but after typing a few and then deleting them while typing this post I realize I am at a loss. Even if we all agreed to ignore him, what about the people who are visiting xda for the first time??? I have been visiting the Droid X forum daily since its inception here at xda(day oner), and it saddens me greatly to see this lunacy has spread from the Incredible forum which I have also frequented for some time.
How is this thread not locked yet?
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You got drama in my Android development!
I would also support the deletion of this thread.
Haha. i remember this guy from when I had an N1, and yet I'm so naive that he got me again. His act does kind of put a damper on things, but I agree with those who think that he is less of ****ty person than he is a troubled person in need of attention. In fact, while this thread obviously doesn't belong in the Dev forum (or xda at all for that matter), I find this situation fascinating. He would make a great case study for my Master's thesis.
That i don't become a damn moderator... EVER. I would pass out bans to every idiot decided to shout OMG WRONG FORUM 2 seconds after something was posted rather than just answering a damn question.
When the hell are people going to wake up and realize that the people that aren't as tech savvy are going to make mistakes. It's 10x easier to help and let a mod do their god damn job rather than just waste time typing useless BS.
If anybody bothers reading this, please for the love of god be a good member of the community. You are worth nothing more than ANYBODY else regardless of what your thanks meter says. Even developers need to play by the same rules as everybody else, be civil and don't lash out at people for simple mistakes.
Oh ya, BTW, the Q & A section of any god damn forum is almost always the least active. This isn't yahoo answers, people don't come here and log in with the intent of answering questions. They come here to flash roms. Do you think even developers frequently check Q & A? Probably not. So perhaps the better thing to do is create an optional section of the development forum that has questions pertaining to development. Turn it off if you don't care and leave it on if you don't mind firing off an answer every once in a while.
Developers know answers to questions, not the people that post in the Q & A forums... you know the people with the damn questions.
So please, everybody, get off your high horse. This is an internet forum. It was created to be a resource for people that want to improve their phone. Get rid of this drama, it would result in a better community.
P.S. The savagedzenkernel crap that happened here is ridiculous. As well as a lot of the things going on this Evo development forum. A lot of favoritism as of late and it's kind of sad. If you don't get thanked in a long list of thanks are you really losing sleep? You developed something and are distributing it for free, you make it public. If you know it's in their work then you have the satisfaction of knowing they had to use your stuff to make their **** work. That's all the thanks you need, you want more don't make it public. If i stand outside of a store with free pretzels i don't expect everybody to say thank you when they take one.
Funniest part, the average end user could give a crap about who did what in a kernel or who tweaked what governor. They don't even care who you are, what your name is, or what your rep is. Most don't donate (I have donated various times to various roms myself) and I never USED to. Once i became more involved, i did.
So, please, everybody... strive for something better rather than the trash this site is slowly becoming. Change starts with the individual.
Thanks for the time it took to read this,
Dave
That was a waste of space!
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Cool story bro
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It's a losing battle i'm just going to give in to the avalanche.
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WRONG FORU.... ohhh, nevermind
Thumbs up and a thanks for posting in the right spot
One of the few members I have seen around for a while and always seems to be optimistic and friendly.
Thank you Haus
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WRONG FORU.... ohhh, nevermind
Thumbs up and a thanks for posting in the right spot
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I don't have a problem nor do I disagree with what you said but honestly posting this is just encouraging an attack.
this subjects already been posted. Didn't use the search button?
Its not 100% true though. I come to the general forum and q&a just to try and help people out and answer questions.
the op need a diaper changed
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When I grow up, I want to be an XDA moderator so I can ban people for creating useless threads like this one.
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Everyone is saying this thread is useless, but I actually agree with it. The drama that has been going on around the Supersonic section is getting out of hand.
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I wish I had more hands so I can give this OP 4 thumbs down. If u can find a better community to help you make your phone just that much more amazing then , c ya.
Edit: to add some more uselessness to this thread, goodmorning everyone.
Swyped from my eVo
Lighten up, Francis.
Sorry... had to.
OMG where are the moderators?? Someone should close this thread and ban people.
While I agree that there are a lot of tools on this forum that come in and flame on the noobs, one can only take so many, "how do I root my Evo?" And every other retarded question that's asked that could have been answered by doing a quick fast and easy search. And then if you don't answer there question immediately, or give them the link that answers the question, they get snooty because you didn't answer the question, but pawned them off to another thread.
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AMEN
I am sure everyone has made the mistake of posting in the wrong forum one time or another. It is amazing how fast some people starting flaming. It's as though they are just skimming through the forums waiting to find something or someone to jump on. I would ban people too.
Reminds me of my job, a lot of co-workers better hope I never become their manager. I will fire their arses in a heartbeat.
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That i don't become a damn moderator... EVER. I would pass out bans to every idiot decided to shout OMG WRONG FORUM 2 seconds after something was posted rather than just answering a damn question.
When the hell are people going to wake up and realize that the people that aren't as tech savvy are going to make mistakes. It's 10x easier to help and let a mod do their god damn job rather than just waste time typing useless BS.
If anybody bothers reading this, please for the love of god be a good member of the community. You are worth nothing more than ANYBODY else regardless of what your thanks meter says. Even developers need to play by the same rules as everybody else, be civil and don't lash out at people for simple mistakes.
Oh ya, BTW, the Q & A section of any god damn forum is almost always the least active. This isn't yahoo answers, people don't come here and log in with the intent of answering questions. They come here to flash roms. Do you think even developers frequently check Q & A? Probably not. So perhaps the better thing to do is create an optional section of the development forum that has questions pertaining to development. Turn it off if you don't care and leave it on if you don't mind firing off an answer every once in a while.
Developers know answers to questions, not the people that post in the Q & A forums... you know the people with the damn questions.
So please, everybody, get off your high horse. This is an internet forum. It was created to be a resource for people that want to improve their phone. Get rid of this drama, it would result in a better community.
P.S. The savagedzenkernel crap that happened here is ridiculous. As well as a lot of the things going on this Evo development forum. A lot of favoritism as of late and it's kind of sad. If you don't get thanked in a long list of thanks are you really losing sleep? You developed something and are distributing it for free, you make it public. If you know it's in their work then you have the satisfaction of knowing they had to use your stuff to make their **** work. That's all the thanks you need, you want more don't make it public. If i stand outside of a store with free pretzels i don't expect everybody to say thank you when they take one.
Funniest part, the average end user could give a crap about who did what in a kernel or who tweaked what governor. They don't even care who you are, what your name is, or what your rep is. Most don't donate (I have donated various times to various roms myself) and I never USED to. Once i became more involved, i did.
So, please, everybody... strive for something better rather than the trash this site is slowly becoming. Change starts with the individual.
Thanks for the time it took to read this,
Dave
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I get where you coming from and i agree, but you did set yourslef up to get trashed and kinda encourged the actions what you were complaining about to begin with.
Ya know, the same "this site is going to trash" comment has been made since I joined here 3 years ago. With every new phone and new rom the same comment gets made by people who want things to go the way they think it should. Its an internet forum and the beauty of it is you have thousands of people that all have a mind of they're own and individual opinions of how things should be done. Yeah some people get pissed because the same question gets asked over and over again and after answering it 50 times they finally have enough. How many people do you think actually read the "Read this before posting questions thread"? Id bet less then 10% of new users. Maybe it needs to be mandated before viewing any other forums to avoid back to back separate threads of "how do I flash a rom".
Isnt that what thread titles are for? So you know what your going to read before doing so? If you dont want to answer that question again then just skip the thread. The opposite end of that spectrum is if you dont like that someone is getting pissed for the same thing being asked over and over again then grab your little mouse wheel and spin that ***** once and guess what, that comment is gone. Hell theres even a feature to ignore someone, use it. Theres no need to complain either way about this. Its a forum, they all work the same way.
I know how you feel OP, I've seen many threads where people would post pages upon pages of: "YOU POSTED IN THE WRONG THREAD, RETARD!". They could just politely say. "Just to let you know, you posted this in the wrong section. For future posts like this, they would go in the Q&A." Then they could let the thread die. But I know some people just strive for drama on the internet.
And OP, if you really want to become a moderator of something. Playstation Home needs some good ones. I think I have seen more flamers and trolls on there than any internet forum I have ever been on. :x
As much as I agree with a lot of what the OP has said, I do however not agree with the tone and attitude used by the OP in the first post.
To stop any flaming which may result from this I have decided to close this thread.
I hope you understand
Rick
I'd like to start off by thanking XDA & their Dev's for all the hard work & great software they make available for all of us noob's out here.
Now what is wrong with the rest of you? I've been looking over a lot of posts on XDA's Epic section & you cannot find the answers to any issues, that I know have already been discussed, without haveing to read pages & pages & pages of whining, bickering, & just down right immature & unappropiate off topic comments. This is the only Forum I have really found to be flooded like this. Jokes are great, but this is rediculous. Neither Android Central or Bonsia seem to have this issue. Android Central is a very good group, but a lot of the software comes from XDA so I come here to research at the source.
Really Guy's!! These Dev's bust their butt's to bring us this stuff & give all the help that the rest of us need to make it work. You should not be so disrespectful of them & the XDA site in general.
OK I'll get off of my soap box now.....
Lol ya I agree this is the only place where you can make a joke about trolling and get flamed by a troll
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I'd like to start off by thanking XDA & their Dev's for all the hard work & great software they make available for all of us noob's out here.
Now what is wrong with the rest of you? I've been looking over a lot of posts on XDA's Epic section & you cannot find the answers to any issues, that I know have already been discussed, without haveing to read pages & pages & pages of whining, bickering, & just down right immature & unappropiate off topic comments. This is the only Forum I have really found to be flooded like this. Jokes are great, but this is rediculous. Neither Android Central or Bonsia seem to have this issue. Android Central is a very good group, but a lot of the software comes from XDA so I come here to research at the source.
Really Guy's!! These Dev's bust their butt's to bring us this stuff & give all the help that the rest of us need to make it work. You should not be so disrespectful of them & the XDA site in general.
OK I'll get off of my soap box now.....
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What issues are you having? I can help.
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What issues are you having? I can help.
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XD I think this one is outta your league bro, you can't change the user base. Its the ratio of regular users versus developers is my best guess, the Epic is very popular and by very different types of people. Plenty of personality clashes.
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I have to agree with the OP. I came to the epic from the moment and the transform. These forums are flooded with questions and requests in the development section, people requesting user specific roms from the rom developer in the rom development threads, the same questions being asked over and over, etc. When I developed for the transform, the rom I developed was built for me, the kernel I developed was built for me, if someone wanted it different, they had to research and do it themselves.
Answers simple. From what I've noticed a lot of epic owners are young on this board. That and there are nerds up here that seems to think they've a huge cack. They complain about rolling, but dont realize there flooding the forum with nonsense just as much as the noobs.
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Not to be fresh, but this topic has been discussed to death. If you're so worried about flooding the forum with repeated posts complaining about things, why are you doing just that? You could pm individuals and try to help them with ettiquite. I just don't think this kind of response will change things. There can be a mix of fun and tech. If a dev is offended, they've never had problems expressing so.
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The Root said:
Not to be fresh, but this topic has been discussed to death. If you're so worried about flooding the forum with repeated posts complaining about things, why are you doing just that? You could pm individuals and try to help them with ettiquite. I just don't think this kind of response will change things. There can be a mix of fun and tech. If a dev is offended, they've never had problems expressing so.
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This thread was a mix of a thank you to the devs themers and mods who put their time and effort to bring us everything they put out(lol) , along with a sidenote to all those trolling and dickering on the forums.
I didn't join to long ago, I'm 16 in highschool ,hah, but for the first couple of weeks I would just lurk around with no post t try and learn on my own before posting something already answered/irrelevent to the topic and such, and I've noticed these forums have just gone downhill since I've joined. There's a dev drain going on around here. I think what all the devs and themers mods really need is some gratefullness from us, their end users...
Then again that's just my 2 cents thrown in the mix. Have a good day everyone
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XD I think this one is outta your league bro, you can't change the user base
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Well said. I think that it comes from the Epic's user base, which, IMO, tends to be a bit more techie, a bit less social skilled, and a bit more easy to get into a huff.
monke30butt said:
I'd like to start off by thanking XDA & their Dev's for all the hard work & great software they make available for all of us noob's out here.
Now what is wrong with the rest of you? I've been looking over a lot of posts on XDA's Epic section & you cannot find the answers to any issues, that I know have already been discussed, without haveing to read pages & pages & pages of whining, bickering, & just down right immature & unappropiate off topic comments. This is the only Forum I have really found to be flooded like this. Jokes are great, but this is rediculous. Neither Android Central or Bonsia seem to have this issue. Android Central is a very good group, but a lot of the software comes from XDA so I come here to research at the source.
Really Guy's!! These Dev's bust their butt's to bring us this stuff & give all the help that the rest of us need to make it work. You should not be so disrespectful of them & the XDA site in general.
OK I'll get off of my soap box now.....
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Its all comes down to moderating. If the moderators allow it to happen then there isn't much you can do. I know XDA being a very high volume traffic forum its hard to keep on top of the hundreds of posts each day here.
I do tip my hat to the devs and the ones that go out of their way to help others answer the questions but as far as the useless posts especially in ROM/Theme or Q & A threads its uncalled for and they should be removed if its off topic. It does get very aggravating trying to find information or stay on top of things when you have to read through post after post of wasted space.
This is just my two cents, I don't really have a problem with it but I do understand where the OP and others are coming from when trying to find answers and research things when your a noob or even a knowledgeable user.
Would it be worse if the Boost crowd roamed this forum?
I'm part of that boost crowd I guess...
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What issues are you having? I can help.
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No real issues, I was just researching Swiss Cheese to see if I wanted to switch from SRF 1.1.1 (the FM radio caught my eye), just trying to see the pro's & con's. Many thanks for the offer though.....
ac16313 said:
This thread was a mix of a thank you to the devs themers and mods who put their time and effort to bring us everything they put out(lol) , along with a sidenote to all those trolling and dickering on the forums.
I didn't join to long ago, I'm 16 in highschool ,hah, but for the first couple of weeks I would just lurk around with no post t try and learn on my own before posting something already answered/irrelevent to the topic and such, and I've noticed these forums have just gone downhill since I've joined. There's a dev drain going on around here. I think what all the devs and themers mods really need is some gratefullness from us, their end users...
Then again that's just my 2 cents thrown in the mix. Have a good day everyone
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Very well said, I am very impressed.
Paul627g said:
I do tip my hat to the devs and the ones that go out of their way to help others answer the questions but as far as the useless posts especially in ROM/Theme or Q & A threads its uncalled for and they should be removed if its off topic. It does get very aggravating trying to find information or stay on top of things when you have to read through post after post of wasted space.
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Absolutely right!!!
I was just venting. I've been on AC since Jan & here since Feb, have never posted here before just looked around & did my research, just wanted to voice my opinion, that's all......
chris41g said:
I'm part of that boost crowd I guess...
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WHERE U AT DAWG?!
God I miss those stupid commercials.
Nothing useful to add other than this forum has a bunch of very different personalities on it as was mentioned earlier, that and a very large number of them are very young/immature.... which amplifies the problem. Combine that with a product that has limited rom support/lacking sources etc compared to more popular phones that have high level development because of full sources and/or higher popularity... you get a whole lot of butthurt and entitlement issues from the peanut gallery.
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WHERE U AT DAWG?!
God I miss those stupid commercials.
Nothing useful to add other than this forum has a bunch of very different personalities on it as was mentioned earlier, that and a very large number of them are very young/immature.... which amplifies the problem. Combine that with a product that has limited rom support/lacking sources etc compared to more popular phones that have high level development because of full sources and/or higher popularity... you get a whole lot of butthurt and entitlement issues from the peanut gallery.
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OMG
I Heard it in my head -_-
i hated those commercials
iSaint said:
OMG
I Heard it in my head -_-
i hated those commercials
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BLEEPBLORP WHERE YOU AT?
I got a kick out of this bit too, several years later:
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I personally think that most issues come from people asking question about issues that come with the rom they're running that was mostly likely answered.To solve this issue with constant questioning of How to fix this and that I think someone who flashed a lot of roms and know a lot aout the epic should make a thread telling how to fix certain issues relating to any rom in particular. For example say that a rom keep having force closes, most likely the reason for these force closes are caused by a bad flash, so the thread would say "for multiply forces to be solve do a clean wipe ( wipe everything 3x) and reflash Rom." I chose this example because most issues people go through are multiply force closes when flashing new Roms.
The reason a lot of questions are left unanswered is because 90% of the time they have been answered already in about 10 different threads or posts. We get an ass-ton of repeat questions. I understand not everybody wants to sift through lots of unwanted clutter, but we do have a search feature for a reason.
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The reason a lot of questions are left unanswered is because 90% of the time they have been answered already in about 10 different threads or posts. We get an ass-ton of repeat questions. I understand not everybody wants to sift through lots of unwanted clutter, but we do have a search feature for a reason.
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Search doesn't help users find what they're searching for
djbacon06 said:
The reason a lot of questions are left unanswered is because 90% of the time they have been answered already in about 10 different threads or posts. We get an ass-ton of repeat questions. I understand not everybody wants to sift through lots of unwanted clutter, but we do have a search feature for a reason.
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Too True!!!
Some of you know me, some don't. I'm more active trough PM then trough posting. But this is something that is bother me for a while and I think a lot of us.
And it can't be done trough PM, believe me, i have tried....
We all (if we are fair) know that the x10 is old mobile. And the most of us don't use a mobile longer than 2 years. So why o why read I so many post of people that are complaining about a update from a dev. Let them move on and give new dev's a chance
My personal top 3 irritations!!!!!
1) if you can't do it yourself, be grateful for everything they do for us and don't complain!!!
2) if we (the users) get a new mobile, how many people still stick to the x10 treads? So why expect a lot of people that the dev's must stick to the X10 forum and development further!!!
3) if a dev don't post for a while, don't post non related post in a DEVELOPMENT TREAD and complain about a update!!!
I have talk with a lot of members trough a personal message and told them about the post they have placed. But I think its a neverending story.
I think when the Mods are more harsher and give quicker a warning and ban people, then maybe people think twice what they post. I know that the mods help xda in their spare time and do all they can. But when you make a couple statements, the word get spread and maybe maybe this will work!
thanks for listening to my complaint
Even though i bought a Galaxy Note, i still read the first page of the General/Dev/Q&A section of the X10 forum daily.
You are right about people complaining to developers for updates, but that's just the way it is. It doesn't have to disturb you, or anyone. Most people ignore these types of begging posts anyway.
My experience in forums showed that having strict moderation won't do a thing. It will only lead to more drama. I know you feel you have to do something about this, but believe me its better if you relax and don't do anything at all. The mods know their job and doing the best they can. Talking to individuals via PM's and trying to explain why they shouldn't do this and that is not only time consuming, but as you can see, it lead you being frustrated enough to start this thread.
This thread will be read by (lets say) 1000, will be replied by 10-20, some may agree, some may not. It then will crawl it's way on the bottom of the page until a similar thread pops up. (There, just saved you some time )
Bottom line is, it's the interwebz. Don't get too attached.
But he is right though
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RANT AHEAD!
Unfortunately, you are right. People feel its a right they possess to get the developer to work non stop for them. Things in the x10 forums are still relatively mild though... In the atrix forum, the CM7 thread had to be closed for a period of time due to people complaining and demanding for fixes. And the "thx" posts. Here's a classic example
sx4 said:
all i want to know when moto atrix is getting ics.i also have sgs captivate and it is running on ics port and woking very well.so i also want to have ics on this phone also.pls do it quickly
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I like the x10 forums, things are usually more peaceful and people more helpful here.
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RANT AHEAD!
I like the x10 forums, things are usually more peaceful and people more helpful here.
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lol, before this thread gets closed i would love to point out that we have had our moments here, we can mix it with the big boys
I have given up with my classic posts of
1. use search next time
2. rule number 1 is not to ask for an eta
3. read the OP
4. why dont you make a backup and try it yourself
its just not worth the ware and tear of my keyboard to make them anymore....
but, we were all noobs once, a bit of tolerance is should be given
im totally agree with you,but hey,you cant fight fire with fire,that just leads to your "never ending story"
Hi,
This is my defense, take this thread in the X10 forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356580
I have just counted 93 posts deleted by moderators and with the warnings posted, about a dozen took vacations for ignoring the developer and moderators warning of being a Dev only thread. Just because you do not see warnings posted everywhere does not mean nothing is being done, most problems can be sorted out using the new infraction system, we use that all the time now, it is easy to use and straight to the point.
This type of thread cleaning and response is happening all the time, reported posts are dealt with much faster and if anybody needs banning, senior mods are available on gtalk to sort it out immediately.
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Hi,
This is my defense, take this thread in the X10 forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356580
I have just counted 93 posts deleted by moderators and with the warnings posted, about a dozen took vacations for ignoring the developer and moderators warning of being a Dev only thread. Just because you do not see warnings posted everywhere does not mean nothing is being done, most problems can be sorted out using the new infraction system, we use that all the time now, it is easy to use and straight to the point.
This type of thread cleaning and response is happening all the time, reported posts are dealt with much faster and if anybody needs banning, senior mods are available on gtalk to sort it out immediately.
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Couldnt have said it better myself good man, just cause we dont get them all doesn't mean we arent trying. and according to some members here im a very harsh mod. however i do what i have to
Cool story bro
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Couldnt have said it better myself good man, just cause we dont get them all doesn't mean we arent trying. and according to some members here im a very harsh mod. however i do what i have to
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You harsh, Nah. (I do however get the feeling it was you that closed my first thread posted here.) But having an Avatar that is a Happy Face , with a "Heidelberg Scar" doesn't really convoy a feeling of warm, fuzzy comfort to people. More like good mod / bad mod and Colossus= good mod; he even warns people in a very nice polite way. But temporarily freezing threads seems to be doing a great job of allowing the tensions to diffuse. Kudos for that.
tal333
-PiLoT- said:
Couldnt have said it better myself good man, just cause we dont get them all doesn't mean we arent trying. and according to some members here im a very harsh mod. however i do what i have to
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I actually don't think you're a harsh mod at all...
just blunt and to the point.
Also hilarious, even when it is aimed at me lol
pilot is harsh..;lol////
i feel like a virgin untill i have my first infraction...so pilot...give it me hard!
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pilot is harsh..;lol////
i feel like a virgin untill i have my first infraction...so pilot...give it me hard!
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he is going to pop your infraction cherry
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he is going to pop your infraction cherry
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bet he doesnt
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no balls
hopefully he'll be gentle
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hopefully he'll be gentle
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not like last time....
I didn't walk right for a week
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I didn't walk right for a week
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When i said give it to me i didnt mean that!!!!
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when I got my first infraction, I couldn't walk right because.... I was so upset so I wasn't paying attention to where I was going?
What did you guys think I meant? geez