Fixing bugs on Cingular 8525 - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

First of all let me say thank you to everyone here. You have all been very helpful. Now to my question. First is there any fix for this annoying ass voicer mail notifier. I dismiss it and it doesn't go away. Second of all I'm new to all this, and I dont have a ton of extra stuff on my PPC but it seems to run slow. Closing out slow, and pulling up programs slow. Any suggestions as always would be GREATLY appreciated. Also what does applying all these different ROMS do for you. I see that everywhere. Let me apologize ahead of time for my ignorance. : )

johnnyshu0129 said:
First of all let me say thank you to everyone here. You have all been very helpful. Now to my question. First is there any fix for this annoying ass voicer mail notifier.
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That would somehow be different than the annoying ass noobie that can't bother to read a single thread/wiki article and hides this blatant disregard for the culture of xda-devs by posting how you've "learned lots"?
johnnyshu0129 said:
I dismiss it and it doesn't go away.
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Funny, that's what we tried to do with noobies that can't read threads/wiki, but, it didn't work either
johnnyshu0129 said:
Second of all I'm new to all this, and I dont have a ton of extra stuff on my PPC but it seems to run slow. Closing out slow, and pulling up programs slow. Any suggestions as always would be GREATLY appreciated. Also what does applying all these different ROMS do for you. I see that everywhere. Let me apologize ahead of time for my ignorance. : )
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You can apologise all you want, but, until you RTFW (read the "fine" wiki), you're not going to get a lot of help.

Wow, you guys sure are pleasant around here.

callmemoe said:
Wow, you guys sure are pleasant around here.
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It's kinda annoying wading through the massive amounts of stupidity on here asking the same questions over and over again because NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE F***ING SEARCH BUTTON IS FOR!!

I think it's kind of annoying wading through posts (after using the search button, by the way) thinking that someone has an answer to or a tip for a problem that I may have too only to find that someone is ripping on them for asking a question.

callmemoe said:
I think it's kind of annoying wading through posts (after using the search button, by the way) thinking that someone has an answer to or a tip for a problem that I may have too only to find that someone is ripping on them for asking a question.
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I am sympathetic to this point -- this forum has become so popular the key threads end up with 100's of msg., often out of sequence so it's really hard to follow when you're looking for something -- and it seems like most of my searches come up with thread references (usually the long ones) not specific msg. hits. Whether callmemoe looked hard enough on his own, I think the moderators and senior members need to take a look at the length of the key threads and cut some slack here!

There are two features that will help:
1) You can search and select to view the POSTS themselves, not just the threads. This is a big help.
2) You can search WITHIN a thread. Go to the thread you are interested in, and use the Thread Search option at the top of the thread. This will help you sort through the 800+ messages in a popular thread.
Oh, and sometimes, you just have to read ALL 800 messages!

I seldomly ask questions on here, because I lurk more, and learn more. The search button does work, tho a little tricky at first! I think some people can be a little too harsh on newbies when all you have to say is "use the search first, then ask later!" and just leave it at that. Johnnyshu0129, I encourage you to do alot of reading and keyword searching. To every question you have asked on here its already been discussed or is being discussed! Everything i wanted to know about my 8525 was relatively easy to find on here. Once youve done your research and, if theres something that you just cant grasp, then ask, because the vets on here, are really nice and love to help those who take out the time to help themselves first. They put in alot of work and time making programs and posting information that theyve discovered. All you have to do is wiki, and search button!

princeasi said:
the vets on here, are really nice and love to help those who take out the time to help themselves first. They put in alot of work and time making programs and posting information that theyve discovered. All you have to do is wiki, and search button!
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I think I speak for all the senior members when I say that we will gladly help *anyone* who we see as taking the time to at least TRY to understand what they're doing. Lord knows, I didn't get it the first time through, and I even bugged Pof about some issues.. But, it was filling in pieces of the puzzle that I didn't understand initially--not to ask for hand-holding.
It's OK to ask things like, "I understand that you can flash your OS and BootLoader using mtty, and also by using SSPL. I'd like to understand the differences between the two methods--is there a wiki page that has a comparison of the two?"
It's NOT ok to ask things like, "I'm a n00b and I want to install a winmob6 on my ph0ne. How do I do that?"

LegolasTheElf said:
I think I speak for all the senior members when I say that we will gladly help *anyone* who we see as taking the time to at least TRY to understand what they're doing.
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Because being here 4 months with 100+ posts makes you a senior member? You are only a "senior member" because of your post count. That and a buck 50 wont even get you on the train. Posts like this make your "senior" status less credible.
Why not swallow your pride and answer the question.
Speed issues?
Delete your pocket IE history and temporary files. Voicemail reminder I can't help with.

Can't Find The Answer
Where do babies come from? I have searched the entire site, and still no answer.

dma1965 said:
Where do babies come from? I have searched the entire site, and still no answer.
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I knew there was something missing on the wiki
Mike

dma1965 said:
Where do babies come from? I have searched the entire site, and still no answer.
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It goes something like this.......
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teknics said:
Because being here 4 months with 100+ posts makes you a senior member? You are only a "senior member" because of your post count.
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Well, sure.. That, and I've actually READ the WIKI and appropriate threads on here to know what the hell I'm talking about.
I even know how to use the search function! I know, it's a strange concept to some here, but, searches, and wiki reading are actually USEFUL!

I have also read the WiKi and all the appropriate posts. My phone still works, and I didn't have to post any questions. But that still doesn't stop me from answering a question. I don't think its always neccessary to grille a noob.

@teknics - that's great.. Hang around here long enough, and contribute back to the community by posting/answering good questions, or even taking it upon yourself to solve a common problem/concern, and you'll be a valuable addition to this community.
It's not about posting questions or answering them. It's about discovery and helping each other figure things out. The spoon-feeding is in the Wiki.
Oh, and the other thing that bugs me is that n00b's will create new threads when their post belongs in an existing thread. New threads do NOT get noticed 'more' than a new post in an existing thread.

I doubt I will ever contribute anything the likes of Pof or Sleuth, but I do plan on sticking around.
I just get annoyed when people act dumb on forums, so I appologize if I sounded harsh.

Charming gentleman this legolas.

Respect
I will do more searching before asking. I understand where your all coming from. And I respect that. I will reveiw more before asking questions. I appreciate the help from everyone. Maybe one day I'll be able to contribute as much as I take from this site.

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@teknics - that's great.. Hang around here long enough, and contribute back to the community by posting/answering good questions, or even taking it upon yourself to solve a common problem/concern, and you'll be a valuable addition to this community.
It's not about posting questions or answering them. It's about discovery and helping each other figure things out. The spoon-feeding is in the Wiki.
Oh, and the other thing that bugs me is that n00b's will create new threads when their post belongs in an existing thread. New threads do NOT get noticed 'more' than a new post in an existing thread.
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If you truly wish to provide help, then your initial response should have been something along the line of: "Hey, I did a search and found this, <LINK>, maybe it'll help."
Instead of stating how stupid someone is to ask a question that has been already asked...
Any forum will have more 'lurkers' than posters, your response will not help these folks become active members here.
There is no such thing as a stupid question, but I have seen many stupid answers...

Related

A little Elf bait

Not sure if this is the right forum, but I was wondering if anyone had seen LegolasTheElf. Trying to sort something out and I have not gotten a repsonse to my PM. He is usually prompt.
He got mad and left right after he got banned. Post your problem, I'm sure someone can help.
I think he's hanging out over at HTC-Devs.com
I've seen a few posts from him over there
Thanks Timtown.
I know where the fool is...
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1163865&page=1&pp=15
LegolasTheElf
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I'm one of the senior guys from XDA -- look for any posts by LegolasTheElf on XDA and you'll see what I mean
Anyways, I'm one of the experts on the HTC TyTn/Hermes/8525. I thought I'd introduce myself here, and offer some assistance.
Here are MY ground rules:
1) If you keep asking me the same questions over and over again, don't be surprised that I either don't answer you, or give you a really stupid answer.
2) I can tell you what you need to know to get WM6 on your device WITHOUT bricking it. I can FIX bricks. Here's the deal. If you want general help, that's great. I can do it. If you want 1-on-1 support, you'll need to PM me and make arrangements to compensate me.
Anyways, I'm not going to be on XDA again, for a while.. So, HoFo just gained a HTC expert
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The "Expert" showed up at HoFo offering his god like service to the pions. Please take this fool back!
dkb218 said:
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1163865&page=1&pp=15
The "Expert" showed up at HoFo offering his god like service to the pions. Please take this fool back!
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LOL....he's getting around a bit then - I've seen him "hanging with JJ" over at 4winmobile too
Having gotten himself and his alter ego (xQx) banned by shogunmark, I'm sure he's bound to (try to?) sneak back under the radar to taunt some poor unsuspecting n00b
For now, at least, the Elf's on the dark side
Mark.
Legolas is saying on HoFo that he was banned because he criticized a Moderator. Just for the record, that is not the reason he was banned and the decision was not taken lightly.
To keep the spirit and quality of this site we will not tolerate abusive language particularly when used to describe other members, or those who cannot accept that this is a community where the opinions of others deserve respect.
We do accept freedom of expression where it is politely and intelligently expressed and does not constitute a personal and abusive attack on other forum users.
Members need only use common sense to see the boundary between reasonable good behaviour and repeatedly going too far.
This is not a forum where people should be tuning in to be voyeurs to the latest tirade of flaming and colourful language - there's lots of other fora you can go to for that.
Here endeth the lesson - now let's have some fun
Mike
Yes, he has been welcomed into HOFO with warmth and open arms. I expect he will be their senior mod soon!
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1163865&page=1&pp=15
JasenR said:
Yes, he has been welcomed into HOFO with warmth and open arms. I expect he will be their senior mod soon!
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1163865&page=1&pp=15
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lol..wow...
Ive seen Logolas shoot out some serious flames before. But reading the reast of that hofo post, it seems like karma is catchin up to him
Mark Crouch said:
Having gotten himself and his alter ego (xQx) banned by shogunmark, I'm sure he's bound to (try to?) sneak back under the radar to taunt some poor unsuspecting n00b
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Your right, he has tried.. and he does currently have a different user id on here, but i am allowing him to plead his case with us mods/admins.. but i can tell you it probably wont last....
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Your right, he has tried.. and he does currently have a different user id on here, but i am allowing him to plead his case with us mods/admins.. but i can tell you it probably wont last....
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I admit, he is a bit harsh and may have taken it a bit too far, but who doesn't get frustrated. I would rather take some good advice from someone who demands that I do my homework, than get bad advice and a $500 brick. He is knowledgeable and helpful, if not a bit abrasive Seriously, if I had a vote (which I don't), I would keep him around for his knowledge I'll take the personality quirks that go with it. I realize this may not be a popular opinion atm, but he has unbricked a bunch of Hermes.
Just my .02 (monetary unit of your choice)
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I admit, he is a bit harsh and may have taken it a bit too far, but who doesn't get frustrated. I would rather take some good advice from someone who demands that I do my homework, than get bad advice and a $500 brick. He is knowledgeable and helpful, if not a bit abrasive Seriously, if I had a vote (which I don't), I would keep him around for his knowledge I'll take the personality quirks that go with it. I realize this may not be a popular opinion atm, but he has unbricked a bunch of Hermes.
Just my .02 (monetary unit of your choice)
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If i myself would have only seen what all has happened on the surface then i would probably agree with you, but there has been a lot that has happened in the background that most people dont know about, nor will we make it public.. but i can assure you that the things that have happened in the background completely goes against the xda spirit...
Well, if nothing else, this story illustrates what we should all know well by now ... the internet and technology makes this a very small world ... and there no longer is the fiction of maintaining/making reputations in isolation ... a quick stroll through the HOFO thread make this point crystal clear.
Not to get biblical, but the "reap what you sow" line comes to mind.
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We do accept freedom of expression where it is politely and intelligently expressed and does not constitute a personal and abusive attack on other forum users.
This is not a forum where people should be tuning in to be voyeurs to the latest tirade of flaming and colourful language - there's lots of other fora you can go to for that.
Mike
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Yet it appears you helped in creating this ****. way to go idiot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308339
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actually mikechannon photoshopped that
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Yet it appears you helped in creating this ****. way to go idiot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308339
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Mods: now that the kinder and gentler elf is back, this thread can be cleaned up and locked. Removal of the previous post would be appreciated. I do think that mods should be paid some respect - even from seniors. Thanks.
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Mods: now that the kinder and gentler elf is back, this thread can be cleaned up and locked. Removal of the previous post would be appreciated. I do think that mods should be paid some respect - even from seniors. Thanks.
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Perhaps another mod should do the cleaning as I seem to be in the firing line here. I would just say that the above graphic was a purely humorous post originally created at the time M$ was making us take down the ROM archive (Hence "no Mr Gates don't do it")- it was certainly not any kind of criticism of Shogun for whom I have great respect. Let's not loose our sense of humour.
Mike
Mike, I apologize, and not because you are a mod, but because I was wrong about you.
I never seen the image when it was used about the rom archive, and immediately seen it as bashing shogunmark.
@ Todd, "the kindler gentler elf" has already mentioned brainless people can't read in his posts already, and also, I don't care if I am senior or noob, (its fairly clear the intent of the Elfs avitar, even though Mikechannon had nothing to do with it) Im going to say something about it, I can't even believe he was let back in, to be honest.
ChaoticDruid said:
Mike, I apologize, and not because you are a mod, but because I was wrong about you.
I never seen the image when it was used about the rom archive, and immediately seen it as bashing shogunmark.
@ Todd, "the kindler gentler elf" has already mentioned brainless people can't read in his posts already, and also, I don't care if I am senior or noob, (its fairly clear the intent of the Elfs avitar, even though Mikechannon had nothing to do with it) Im going to say something about it, I can't even believe he was let back in, to be honest.
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How did you get out of the insane asylum? I was told to watch my language.. I did that.
My avatar has everything to do with the ROM archive being removed.. What were YOU thinking it was?!?
Personally, I just keep hearing the Wizard of Oz when I read your posts... Something about the scarecrow and his one desire.. But, I don't quite remember the words.
Anyways, enjoy the rest of your day! And, thanks for your great input!
The reality is that you don't have to like or agree with me. But, if you really hate everything I do and say, just add me to your ignore list. However, what fun is it to only read one side of an opinion? Maybe you're one of those people who are afraid of having an open mind.. Things can fall out.
ChaoticDruid said:
Yet it appears you helped in creating this ****. way to go idiot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308339
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its true.. it was all a joke and in good fun Mike is a great guy whom i also have lots of respect for.

Stupid noobs...

why are there so many noobs filling up the dev section with questions or stupid things that can be answered with just a simple search theres 3 pages of crap and not really anything is out development wise for our phones but what is out and in the works is greatly appreciated
Cool story, bro!
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Cool story, bro!
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lol im just saying once stuff actually does get released there's gonna be lots of crap around it kinda like one thread in dev saying froyo??? all it is, is a link saying that froyo is available for european phones that really shouldn't be in the dev section
Agreed.. I'm sick of the 3g question...
I really like the fact that it takes multiple people to post the same thing in each thread.
Kind of feels like Office Space around here =\
have you turned in your tps reports?
Why are there so many elitist snobs who think their own **** never stank?
be a helper, point people in the right direction, dont be a douchebag and you will encourage community involvement otherwise people will think most people here are a bunch of asses and it encourages the take without given back mentality.
KerryG said:
Why are there so many elitist snobs who think their own **** never stank?
be a helper, point people in the right direction, dont be a douchebag and you will encourage community involvement otherwise people will think most people here are a bunch of asses and it encourages the take without given back mentality.
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well as in being a douche bag im not im simply stating im tired of noobs posting in the wrong section, and i do help and tell them they are in the wrong section. And as for your statement, i dont see how that has to do with anything accept you being a noob and not understanding where im coming from. ive been here a while and helped lots as for you i cant say the same... so i think you should take your own advice.
That's why I made the sticky, that SOME neglect.
Just remember we were ALL NOOBS at one point wen we started here. Theirs really no need on cracking on sumone cause they dont kno anything and all their trying to do is learn.. Yea it blows that theirs all the silly questions and dis and dat out their but all that rlly needs to b done is point them to the rite section, you know why.. Simple, because if u dont help others, others wont help you pretty simple rite??
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Just a lot of lazy people who doesn't care about reading simple rules or care about them, they just want someone to answer their question when they have one and then move one happily with their phone.
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Just remember we were ALL NOOBS at one point wen we started here. Theirs really no need on cracking on sumone cause they dont kno anything and all their trying to do is learn.. Yea it blows that theirs all the silly questions and dis and dat out their but all that rlly needs to b done is point them to the rite section, you know why.. Simple, because if u dont help others, others wont help you pretty simple rite??
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Props to that people who wants to learn, but the ones who really wants to do it, they search and read, that's the best way of learning about something, just my point of view... anyhow life goes on so we need to point them to the right direction, always respectfully.
cico7 said:
Just remember we were ALL NOOBS at one point wen we started here. Theirs really no need on cracking on sumone cause they dont kno anything and all their trying to do is learn.. Yea it blows that theirs all the silly questions and dis and dat out their but all that rlly needs to b done is point them to the rite section, you know why.. Simple, because if u dont help others, others wont help you pretty simple rite??
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yes of course i agree but im putting this just to state that all this is getting out of hand and we cant do anything cause we really dont have a mod yet for the vibrant section... and i still help out of course and dont really bash on anyone in here cause its uncalled for...
KerryG said:
Why are there so many elitist snobs who think their own **** never stank?
be a helper, point people in the right direction, dont be a douchebag and you will encourage community involvement otherwise people will think most people here are a bunch of asses and it encourages the take without given back mentality.
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I think it's out of frustration. I've been on these forums READING for over a year just about every day. The DEV section should be the most moderated. There ends up being so much noise once it starts rolling, it's hard to keep up with any legitimate development changes or updates. Some people handle it "nicer" than others, but the point being, if people took the time to read before they type, their questions and comments are probably already covered. It's just frustrating seeing 3-4 mi gps iz brok threads on one page. Moderators will usually merge them so there is one cohesive conversation, not spread out over multiple threads. Why make them have to do that?
Think before you speak in forumese means read before you type.
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well as in being a douche bag im not im simply stating im tired of noobs posting in the wrong section, and i do help and tell them they are in the wrong section. And as for your statement, i dont see how that has to do with anything accept you being a noob and not understanding where im coming from. ive been here a while and helped lots as for you i cant say the same... so i think you should take your own advice.
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In your Same Tone:
This Thread is useless, But seriously if you have been in different forums here on XDA from the very beginning, you will notice they are all like that and once roms and stuff starts getting developed, the amount of people asking and posting in wrong forums get minimized. I saw it with the G1, mytouch, htc Hero (EU), Nexus one, and now on here..... so if it upsets you that badly, create a site of your own and make it so that each user must take a "im not a noob Test" in order to become a member///-- End of Joke-- Or Just Wait a little longer for a Mod to be designated to clean out the mess.
i think it's due to a lot of people not realizing that this is a pretty technical forum so they think because they are asking a question that seems technical to them, they need to post it in the section that seems the most advanced. when really, dev is and should be just that, development. maybe 'general' should be renamed 'questions and help' or something.
but i'm a noob. i've been lurking and reading a bit, just don't post much. but i have to say, the first thread i made i got flamed (k, just toasted a little) because i asked for drivers AND help (in the right section), turns out the drivers everyone pointed me to i already had, so that was no help, and the other threads i read about mounting the phone didn't help. turned out the usb ports on the front of my pc just didn't like the phone, but of course it took posting a thread on here to make me think of something that simple.
that's my $.02
funeralthirst said:
i think it's due to a lot of people not realizing that this is a pretty technical forum so they think because they are asking a question that seems technical to them, they need to post it in the section that seems the most advanced. when really, dev is and should be just that, development. maybe 'general' should be renamed 'questions and help' or something.
but i'm a noob. i've been lurking and reading a bit, just don't post much. but i have to say, the first thread i made i got flamed (k, just toasted a little) because i asked for drivers AND help (in the right section), turns out the drivers everyone pointed me to i already had, so that was no help, and the other threads i read about mounting the phone didn't help. turned out the usb ports on the front of my pc just didn't like the phone, but of course it took posting a thread on here to make me think of something that simple.
that's my $.02
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i agree with you on this about people thinking it should be in dev and all that and it sounds reasonable i wass just hoping that maybe whoever sees and reads this will realize they should post here instead of the dev section even though there are stickies... i thought stupid noobs would bring some people in to read this lol
Skater, what are you talking about? The first post you posted in the development section was...
Uh, will the htc_ime work on this phone?
You, yourself posted a question about an app in the development section, and then got mad when I told you to search...
what did you yield? the apk.. how long did it take? not long...
when is the last time you actually sat down to help someone? to answer some questions? not just pulled up the dev section hoping there was a new rom out...
Dont stir the pot with this... just answer there question and educate them to post in the correct place, read the forum rules, or to search.. if a post gets out of hand, PM a Moderator and ask them to move/close a thread.. A wise man once said, contribute to the community or STFU...
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Skater, what are you talking about? The first post you posted in the development section was...
Uh, will the htc_ime work on this phone?
You, yourself posted a question about an app in the development section, and then got mad when I told you to search...
what did you yield? the apk.. how long did it take? not long...
when is the last time you actually sat down to help someone? to answer some questions? not just pulled up the dev section hoping there was a new rom out...
Dont stir the pot with this... just answer there question and educate them to post in the correct place, read the forum rules, or to search.. if a post gets out of hand, PM a Moderator and ask them to move/close a thread.. A wise man once said, contribute to the community or STFU...
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well if you would have correctly looked at the post i said it worked but didnt work right and yes i found one that worked but thats cause i had to try 3 or 4 different ones until i came across one that worked and how can you search something that nothing was made for? and i answer questions all the time i help when i can all i see you doing is saying search for it yourself or this is the wrong section but never did you give any advice as where to find something or anything helpful so you should listen to yourself and take your own advice and ive helped some by finding that apk that does work... more than i can say for you
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That's why I made the sticky, that SOME neglect.
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You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. It's on you. Put a page before the dev forum explaining this is not a place for ideas tell them where to go this is a place to talk code basically. Give examples of common instances. Ie. The post about 2.2 the person was probably trying to be helpful (like devs wouldn't know). If you want peace say if you're unsure post in general and let s mod move it if necessary. Stop crying and do something about it. Personally I'm tired of both sides. I just want to make my phone better and help where I can.
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Very easy 2.1 root app in market

Sorry if this has been mentioned previously but i found a very very easy app in market for rooting our 2.1, its an app called
z4root. Its similar to the an app which was available for the 1.6 fw. I thought I would mention it as some other people as well as myself found it a pain in the ar*e to keep trying the superoneclick program which loops. I tested z4rout on my worldwide generic 2.1 no problems. I even tried unrooting and re-rooting using this app and no problems. If this has been covered/mentioned please close this thread, just thought I would our back just a little from what u have taken from xda over the past year ;-)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834428
On the same frigging page.
Yeah sorry about that, I only found it as there was a reply at 1339 and my post appeared at 1340. My apologies. How can I get my thread deleted?
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XperiaX10User
Are you like a wannabe xda forum moderator, because all i ever see is your name policing everyone elses posts whether they are asking a question or just trying to be helpful. Have you actually ever contributed or do you actually just rack up your post count from purely policing everyone elses contributions? either way at the end of the day
YOU ARE NOT A MOD
so stop trying to act like one, do you have nothing else better to do----
Advice : Try getting a job
originalaaron said:
Yeah sorry about that, I only found it as there was a reply at 1339 and my post appeared at 1340. My apologies. How can I get my thread deleted?
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Just hit the little caution symbol icon at the top-right of the post to report it. Then ask the mod to delete it. I have already done this for you.
androidfanboi said:
XperiaX10User
Are you like a wannabe xda forum moderator, because all i ever see is your name policing everyone elses posts whether they are asking a question or just trying to be helpful. Have you actually ever contributed or do you actually just rack up your post count from purely policing everyone elses contributions? either way at the end of the day
YOU ARE NOT A MOD
so stop trying to act like one, do you have nothing else better to do----
Advice : Try getting a job
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Androidfanboi - don't start a flame war. XperiaX10User has been around here for quite some time and has contributed extensively to this community. I agree he could've been more polite in his response, but the fact of the matter is that forum users everywhere (not just on XDA) have to learn to use the search function. There's no excuse not to, as it works quite well here.
Sorry for the hassle guys, I will ensure I search more thoroughly in future
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androidfanboi said:
Are you like a wannabe xda forum moderator
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Do you just like flaming.
androidfanboi said:
because all i ever see is your name policing everyone elses posts whether they are asking a question or just trying to be helpful.
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Then you need to look around more.
androidfanboi said:
Have you actually ever contributed
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I hope that isn't a serious question, but one things for certain, it's clearly more than you have.
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If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
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TRUST ME before i got banned and now under a new alias i contributed a hell of a lot more than yourself, what a theme and multitouch news all you got? people would remember my old alias for creating fully fledged rooting programs that rooted, flashed recovery installed custom roms all in one package,also an android command centre for all different kinds of adb and fastboot commands done for you oh yeah also the first fully fledged Android Rom Kitchen.... 2 of...
So i suggest you keep your comments to yourself as it seems you dont know much about me
androidfanboi said:
XperiaX10User
Are you like a wannabe xda forum moderator, because all i ever see is your name policing everyone elses posts whether they are asking a question or just trying to be helpful. Have you actually ever contributed or do you actually just rack up your post count from purely policing everyone elses contributions? either way at the end of the day
YOU ARE NOT A MOD
so stop trying to act like one, do you have nothing else better to do----
Advice : Try getting a job
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You fool... Just think about what you just posted...
sent from canadadadada in a igloo
I know but not like i cant just create another....again lol
androidfanboi said:
XperiaX10User
Are you like a wannabe xda forum moderator, because all i ever see is your name policing everyone elses posts whether they are asking a question or just trying to be helpful. Have you actually ever contributed or do you actually just rack up your post count from purely policing everyone elses contributions? either way at the end of the day
YOU ARE NOT A MOD
so stop trying to act like one, do you have nothing else better to do----
Advice : Try getting a job
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Hey, Can you please shut the hell up?
It doesn't matter if he is a mod.
He is following the rules and is trying to help you follow them.
You are just one of those idiots who think people telling you not to do this because it is in the rules are automatically "wanna be's" as you dim witted people say.
So what if he doesn't have a job but he can get a job on the net.
You should get off the computer and get some shine.
Now now, I understand you will say what about you your in front of a computer posting this.
let me tell you that I do get sunshine everyday.
Now go off and get some sun shine...
I don't care if its night time there go and get some fresh air then.
androidfanboi said:
TRUST ME before i got banned and now under a new alias i contributed a hell of a lot more than yourself
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If you claim so.
androidfanboi said:
So i suggest you keep your comments to yourself as it seems you dont know much about me
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Perhaps you should try taking your own advice.
zm4 said:
So what if he doesn't have a job
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The problem with his immature "get a job" remark is that he's clearly unaware that some can't work for a number reasons, or some people work from home, some people don't even need to work.
Which is why he should "keep his comments to himself" as he "dont know much about me".
Xperiax10user, I have seen from various threads in x10 section, u contribute heavily to x10 users in various ways. Yes I rushed in when I found this app and was so excited I and other users wouldn't have to toggle debugging to avoid looping superoneclick root method but that still doesn't excuse the fact I should have searched. With that said, your reply may have been better received by other forum users if your reply was more polite?! Thank you for your other contributions and I will search in future.
MOD, PLEASE DELETE THIS THREAD
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Jesus Christ, the guy has said sorry, leave it at that...
He mentioned that he would search much better before creating a new thread.
To the thread starter: don't take notice about those hassling you... We are here to help you, some may take the job to seriously.
To give it an end...
XperiaX10User is one of the best Users here... he helps a lot, is very nice and so on.
So why are you interested on his job? This is a forum and not a job-center or something else...
Btw... to originalaaron: i didn't have to toogle debugging on and off...
I bricked my phone 5 times and rooted it 6 times without toogle it... but thx for the info
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egyptshun said:
You fool... Just think about what you just posted...
sent from canadadadada in a igloo
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You won't fool me man, there's no igloo in Toronto, or north of Kingston for that matter, everyone knows that.
Gotta go, there's a polar bear eating my trash in the backyard.
cool man...
don't be so serious.
@Androidfanboi: Perhaps a glass water can help.
@XperiaX10iUser: don't take so serious. Keep up posting and contribute good thread.
Great app, thanks for informing.
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Lol...flaming one of the most helpful persons around here...picking him out of all the members, that is also a skill.....
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Everybody better pray

That i don't become a damn moderator... EVER. I would pass out bans to every idiot decided to shout OMG WRONG FORUM 2 seconds after something was posted rather than just answering a damn question.
When the hell are people going to wake up and realize that the people that aren't as tech savvy are going to make mistakes. It's 10x easier to help and let a mod do their god damn job rather than just waste time typing useless BS.
If anybody bothers reading this, please for the love of god be a good member of the community. You are worth nothing more than ANYBODY else regardless of what your thanks meter says. Even developers need to play by the same rules as everybody else, be civil and don't lash out at people for simple mistakes.
Oh ya, BTW, the Q & A section of any god damn forum is almost always the least active. This isn't yahoo answers, people don't come here and log in with the intent of answering questions. They come here to flash roms. Do you think even developers frequently check Q & A? Probably not. So perhaps the better thing to do is create an optional section of the development forum that has questions pertaining to development. Turn it off if you don't care and leave it on if you don't mind firing off an answer every once in a while.
Developers know answers to questions, not the people that post in the Q & A forums... you know the people with the damn questions.
So please, everybody, get off your high horse. This is an internet forum. It was created to be a resource for people that want to improve their phone. Get rid of this drama, it would result in a better community.
P.S. The savagedzenkernel crap that happened here is ridiculous. As well as a lot of the things going on this Evo development forum. A lot of favoritism as of late and it's kind of sad. If you don't get thanked in a long list of thanks are you really losing sleep? You developed something and are distributing it for free, you make it public. If you know it's in their work then you have the satisfaction of knowing they had to use your stuff to make their **** work. That's all the thanks you need, you want more don't make it public. If i stand outside of a store with free pretzels i don't expect everybody to say thank you when they take one.
Funniest part, the average end user could give a crap about who did what in a kernel or who tweaked what governor. They don't even care who you are, what your name is, or what your rep is. Most don't donate (I have donated various times to various roms myself) and I never USED to. Once i became more involved, i did.
So, please, everybody... strive for something better rather than the trash this site is slowly becoming. Change starts with the individual.
Thanks for the time it took to read this,
Dave
That was a waste of space!
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Cool story bro
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It's a losing battle i'm just going to give in to the avalanche.
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WRONG FORU.... ohhh, nevermind
Thumbs up and a thanks for posting in the right spot
One of the few members I have seen around for a while and always seems to be optimistic and friendly.
Thank you Haus
xHausx said:
WRONG FORU.... ohhh, nevermind
Thumbs up and a thanks for posting in the right spot
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I don't have a problem nor do I disagree with what you said but honestly posting this is just encouraging an attack.
this subjects already been posted. Didn't use the search button?
Its not 100% true though. I come to the general forum and q&a just to try and help people out and answer questions.
the op need a diaper changed
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When I grow up, I want to be an XDA moderator so I can ban people for creating useless threads like this one.
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Everyone is saying this thread is useless, but I actually agree with it. The drama that has been going on around the Supersonic section is getting out of hand.
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I wish I had more hands so I can give this OP 4 thumbs down. If u can find a better community to help you make your phone just that much more amazing then , c ya.
Edit: to add some more uselessness to this thread, goodmorning everyone.
Swyped from my eVo
Lighten up, Francis.
Sorry... had to.
OMG where are the moderators?? Someone should close this thread and ban people.
While I agree that there are a lot of tools on this forum that come in and flame on the noobs, one can only take so many, "how do I root my Evo?" And every other retarded question that's asked that could have been answered by doing a quick fast and easy search. And then if you don't answer there question immediately, or give them the link that answers the question, they get snooty because you didn't answer the question, but pawned them off to another thread.
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AMEN
I am sure everyone has made the mistake of posting in the wrong forum one time or another. It is amazing how fast some people starting flaming. It's as though they are just skimming through the forums waiting to find something or someone to jump on. I would ban people too.
Reminds me of my job, a lot of co-workers better hope I never become their manager. I will fire their arses in a heartbeat.
davenukem said:
That i don't become a damn moderator... EVER. I would pass out bans to every idiot decided to shout OMG WRONG FORUM 2 seconds after something was posted rather than just answering a damn question.
When the hell are people going to wake up and realize that the people that aren't as tech savvy are going to make mistakes. It's 10x easier to help and let a mod do their god damn job rather than just waste time typing useless BS.
If anybody bothers reading this, please for the love of god be a good member of the community. You are worth nothing more than ANYBODY else regardless of what your thanks meter says. Even developers need to play by the same rules as everybody else, be civil and don't lash out at people for simple mistakes.
Oh ya, BTW, the Q & A section of any god damn forum is almost always the least active. This isn't yahoo answers, people don't come here and log in with the intent of answering questions. They come here to flash roms. Do you think even developers frequently check Q & A? Probably not. So perhaps the better thing to do is create an optional section of the development forum that has questions pertaining to development. Turn it off if you don't care and leave it on if you don't mind firing off an answer every once in a while.
Developers know answers to questions, not the people that post in the Q & A forums... you know the people with the damn questions.
So please, everybody, get off your high horse. This is an internet forum. It was created to be a resource for people that want to improve their phone. Get rid of this drama, it would result in a better community.
P.S. The savagedzenkernel crap that happened here is ridiculous. As well as a lot of the things going on this Evo development forum. A lot of favoritism as of late and it's kind of sad. If you don't get thanked in a long list of thanks are you really losing sleep? You developed something and are distributing it for free, you make it public. If you know it's in their work then you have the satisfaction of knowing they had to use your stuff to make their **** work. That's all the thanks you need, you want more don't make it public. If i stand outside of a store with free pretzels i don't expect everybody to say thank you when they take one.
Funniest part, the average end user could give a crap about who did what in a kernel or who tweaked what governor. They don't even care who you are, what your name is, or what your rep is. Most don't donate (I have donated various times to various roms myself) and I never USED to. Once i became more involved, i did.
So, please, everybody... strive for something better rather than the trash this site is slowly becoming. Change starts with the individual.
Thanks for the time it took to read this,
Dave
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I get where you coming from and i agree, but you did set yourslef up to get trashed and kinda encourged the actions what you were complaining about to begin with.
Ya know, the same "this site is going to trash" comment has been made since I joined here 3 years ago. With every new phone and new rom the same comment gets made by people who want things to go the way they think it should. Its an internet forum and the beauty of it is you have thousands of people that all have a mind of they're own and individual opinions of how things should be done. Yeah some people get pissed because the same question gets asked over and over again and after answering it 50 times they finally have enough. How many people do you think actually read the "Read this before posting questions thread"? Id bet less then 10% of new users. Maybe it needs to be mandated before viewing any other forums to avoid back to back separate threads of "how do I flash a rom".
Isnt that what thread titles are for? So you know what your going to read before doing so? If you dont want to answer that question again then just skip the thread. The opposite end of that spectrum is if you dont like that someone is getting pissed for the same thing being asked over and over again then grab your little mouse wheel and spin that ***** once and guess what, that comment is gone. Hell theres even a feature to ignore someone, use it. Theres no need to complain either way about this. Its a forum, they all work the same way.
I know how you feel OP, I've seen many threads where people would post pages upon pages of: "YOU POSTED IN THE WRONG THREAD, RETARD!". They could just politely say. "Just to let you know, you posted this in the wrong section. For future posts like this, they would go in the Q&A." Then they could let the thread die. But I know some people just strive for drama on the internet.
And OP, if you really want to become a moderator of something. Playstation Home needs some good ones. I think I have seen more flamers and trolls on there than any internet forum I have ever been on. :x
As much as I agree with a lot of what the OP has said, I do however not agree with the tone and attitude used by the OP in the first post.
To stop any flaming which may result from this I have decided to close this thread.
I hope you understand
Rick

The neverending story....

Some of you know me, some don't. I'm more active trough PM then trough posting. But this is something that is bother me for a while and I think a lot of us.
And it can't be done trough PM, believe me, i have tried....
We all (if we are fair) know that the x10 is old mobile. And the most of us don't use a mobile longer than 2 years. So why o why read I so many post of people that are complaining about a update from a dev. Let them move on and give new dev's a chance
My personal top 3 irritations!!!!!
1) if you can't do it yourself, be grateful for everything they do for us and don't complain!!!
2) if we (the users) get a new mobile, how many people still stick to the x10 treads? So why expect a lot of people that the dev's must stick to the X10 forum and development further!!!
3) if a dev don't post for a while, don't post non related post in a DEVELOPMENT TREAD and complain about a update!!!
I have talk with a lot of members trough a personal message and told them about the post they have placed. But I think its a neverending story.
I think when the Mods are more harsher and give quicker a warning and ban people, then maybe people think twice what they post. I know that the mods help xda in their spare time and do all they can. But when you make a couple statements, the word get spread and maybe maybe this will work!
thanks for listening to my complaint
Even though i bought a Galaxy Note, i still read the first page of the General/Dev/Q&A section of the X10 forum daily.
You are right about people complaining to developers for updates, but that's just the way it is. It doesn't have to disturb you, or anyone. Most people ignore these types of begging posts anyway.
My experience in forums showed that having strict moderation won't do a thing. It will only lead to more drama. I know you feel you have to do something about this, but believe me its better if you relax and don't do anything at all. The mods know their job and doing the best they can. Talking to individuals via PM's and trying to explain why they shouldn't do this and that is not only time consuming, but as you can see, it lead you being frustrated enough to start this thread.
This thread will be read by (lets say) 1000, will be replied by 10-20, some may agree, some may not. It then will crawl it's way on the bottom of the page until a similar thread pops up. (There, just saved you some time )
Bottom line is, it's the interwebz. Don't get too attached.
But he is right though
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RANT AHEAD!
Unfortunately, you are right. People feel its a right they possess to get the developer to work non stop for them. Things in the x10 forums are still relatively mild though... In the atrix forum, the CM7 thread had to be closed for a period of time due to people complaining and demanding for fixes. And the "thx" posts. Here's a classic example
sx4 said:
all i want to know when moto atrix is getting ics.i also have sgs captivate and it is running on ics port and woking very well.so i also want to have ics on this phone also.pls do it quickly
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I like the x10 forums, things are usually more peaceful and people more helpful here.
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RANT AHEAD!
I like the x10 forums, things are usually more peaceful and people more helpful here.
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lol, before this thread gets closed i would love to point out that we have had our moments here, we can mix it with the big boys
I have given up with my classic posts of
1. use search next time
2. rule number 1 is not to ask for an eta
3. read the OP
4. why dont you make a backup and try it yourself
its just not worth the ware and tear of my keyboard to make them anymore....
but, we were all noobs once, a bit of tolerance is should be given
im totally agree with you,but hey,you cant fight fire with fire,that just leads to your "never ending story"
Hi,
This is my defense, take this thread in the X10 forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356580
I have just counted 93 posts deleted by moderators and with the warnings posted, about a dozen took vacations for ignoring the developer and moderators warning of being a Dev only thread. Just because you do not see warnings posted everywhere does not mean nothing is being done, most problems can be sorted out using the new infraction system, we use that all the time now, it is easy to use and straight to the point.
This type of thread cleaning and response is happening all the time, reported posts are dealt with much faster and if anybody needs banning, senior mods are available on gtalk to sort it out immediately.
colossus said:
Hi,
This is my defense, take this thread in the X10 forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356580
I have just counted 93 posts deleted by moderators and with the warnings posted, about a dozen took vacations for ignoring the developer and moderators warning of being a Dev only thread. Just because you do not see warnings posted everywhere does not mean nothing is being done, most problems can be sorted out using the new infraction system, we use that all the time now, it is easy to use and straight to the point.
This type of thread cleaning and response is happening all the time, reported posts are dealt with much faster and if anybody needs banning, senior mods are available on gtalk to sort it out immediately.
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Couldnt have said it better myself good man, just cause we dont get them all doesn't mean we arent trying. and according to some members here im a very harsh mod. however i do what i have to
Cool story bro
-PiLoT- said:
Couldnt have said it better myself good man, just cause we dont get them all doesn't mean we arent trying. and according to some members here im a very harsh mod. however i do what i have to
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You harsh, Nah. (I do however get the feeling it was you that closed my first thread posted here.) But having an Avatar that is a Happy Face , with a "Heidelberg Scar" doesn't really convoy a feeling of warm, fuzzy comfort to people. More like good mod / bad mod and Colossus= good mod; he even warns people in a very nice polite way. But temporarily freezing threads seems to be doing a great job of allowing the tensions to diffuse. Kudos for that.
tal333
-PiLoT- said:
Couldnt have said it better myself good man, just cause we dont get them all doesn't mean we arent trying. and according to some members here im a very harsh mod. however i do what i have to
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I actually don't think you're a harsh mod at all...
just blunt and to the point.
Also hilarious, even when it is aimed at me lol
pilot is harsh..;lol////
i feel like a virgin untill i have my first infraction...so pilot...give it me hard!
gregbradley said:
pilot is harsh..;lol////
i feel like a virgin untill i have my first infraction...so pilot...give it me hard!
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he is going to pop your infraction cherry
scoobysnacks said:
he is going to pop your infraction cherry
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bet he doesnt
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no balls
hopefully he'll be gentle
scoobysnacks said:
hopefully he'll be gentle
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not like last time....
I didn't walk right for a week
scoobysnacks said:
I didn't walk right for a week
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When i said give it to me i didnt mean that!!!!
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when I got my first infraction, I couldn't walk right because.... I was so upset so I wasn't paying attention to where I was going?
What did you guys think I meant? geez

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