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Fixing bugs on Cingular 8525

First of all let me say thank you to everyone here. You have all been very helpful. Now to my question. First is there any fix for this annoying ass voicer mail notifier. I dismiss it and it doesn't go away. Second of all I'm new to all this, and I dont have a ton of extra stuff on my PPC but it seems to run slow. Closing out slow, and pulling up programs slow. Any suggestions as always would be GREATLY appreciated. Also what does applying all these different ROMS do for you. I see that everywhere. Let me apologize ahead of time for my ignorance. : )

johnnyshu0129 said:
First of all let me say thank you to everyone here. You have all been very helpful. Now to my question. First is there any fix for this annoying ass voicer mail notifier.
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That would somehow be different than the annoying ass noobie that can't bother to read a single thread/wiki article and hides this blatant disregard for the culture of xda-devs by posting how you've "learned lots"?
johnnyshu0129 said:
I dismiss it and it doesn't go away.
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Funny, that's what we tried to do with noobies that can't read threads/wiki, but, it didn't work either
johnnyshu0129 said:
Second of all I'm new to all this, and I dont have a ton of extra stuff on my PPC but it seems to run slow. Closing out slow, and pulling up programs slow. Any suggestions as always would be GREATLY appreciated. Also what does applying all these different ROMS do for you. I see that everywhere. Let me apologize ahead of time for my ignorance. : )
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You can apologise all you want, but, until you RTFW (read the "fine" wiki), you're not going to get a lot of help.

Wow, you guys sure are pleasant around here.

callmemoe said:
Wow, you guys sure are pleasant around here.
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It's kinda annoying wading through the massive amounts of stupidity on here asking the same questions over and over again because NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE F***ING SEARCH BUTTON IS FOR!!

I think it's kind of annoying wading through posts (after using the search button, by the way) thinking that someone has an answer to or a tip for a problem that I may have too only to find that someone is ripping on them for asking a question.

callmemoe said:
I think it's kind of annoying wading through posts (after using the search button, by the way) thinking that someone has an answer to or a tip for a problem that I may have too only to find that someone is ripping on them for asking a question.
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I am sympathetic to this point -- this forum has become so popular the key threads end up with 100's of msg., often out of sequence so it's really hard to follow when you're looking for something -- and it seems like most of my searches come up with thread references (usually the long ones) not specific msg. hits. Whether callmemoe looked hard enough on his own, I think the moderators and senior members need to take a look at the length of the key threads and cut some slack here!

There are two features that will help:
1) You can search and select to view the POSTS themselves, not just the threads. This is a big help.
2) You can search WITHIN a thread. Go to the thread you are interested in, and use the Thread Search option at the top of the thread. This will help you sort through the 800+ messages in a popular thread.
Oh, and sometimes, you just have to read ALL 800 messages!

I seldomly ask questions on here, because I lurk more, and learn more. The search button does work, tho a little tricky at first! I think some people can be a little too harsh on newbies when all you have to say is "use the search first, then ask later!" and just leave it at that. Johnnyshu0129, I encourage you to do alot of reading and keyword searching. To every question you have asked on here its already been discussed or is being discussed! Everything i wanted to know about my 8525 was relatively easy to find on here. Once youve done your research and, if theres something that you just cant grasp, then ask, because the vets on here, are really nice and love to help those who take out the time to help themselves first. They put in alot of work and time making programs and posting information that theyve discovered. All you have to do is wiki, and search button!

princeasi said:
the vets on here, are really nice and love to help those who take out the time to help themselves first. They put in alot of work and time making programs and posting information that theyve discovered. All you have to do is wiki, and search button!
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I think I speak for all the senior members when I say that we will gladly help *anyone* who we see as taking the time to at least TRY to understand what they're doing. Lord knows, I didn't get it the first time through, and I even bugged Pof about some issues.. But, it was filling in pieces of the puzzle that I didn't understand initially--not to ask for hand-holding.
It's OK to ask things like, "I understand that you can flash your OS and BootLoader using mtty, and also by using SSPL. I'd like to understand the differences between the two methods--is there a wiki page that has a comparison of the two?"
It's NOT ok to ask things like, "I'm a n00b and I want to install a winmob6 on my ph0ne. How do I do that?"

LegolasTheElf said:
I think I speak for all the senior members when I say that we will gladly help *anyone* who we see as taking the time to at least TRY to understand what they're doing.
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Because being here 4 months with 100+ posts makes you a senior member? You are only a "senior member" because of your post count. That and a buck 50 wont even get you on the train. Posts like this make your "senior" status less credible.
Why not swallow your pride and answer the question.
Speed issues?
Delete your pocket IE history and temporary files. Voicemail reminder I can't help with.

Can't Find The Answer
Where do babies come from? I have searched the entire site, and still no answer.

dma1965 said:
Where do babies come from? I have searched the entire site, and still no answer.
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I knew there was something missing on the wiki
Mike

dma1965 said:
Where do babies come from? I have searched the entire site, and still no answer.
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teknics said:
Because being here 4 months with 100+ posts makes you a senior member? You are only a "senior member" because of your post count.
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Well, sure.. That, and I've actually READ the WIKI and appropriate threads on here to know what the hell I'm talking about.
I even know how to use the search function! I know, it's a strange concept to some here, but, searches, and wiki reading are actually USEFUL!

I have also read the WiKi and all the appropriate posts. My phone still works, and I didn't have to post any questions. But that still doesn't stop me from answering a question. I don't think its always neccessary to grille a noob.

@teknics - that's great.. Hang around here long enough, and contribute back to the community by posting/answering good questions, or even taking it upon yourself to solve a common problem/concern, and you'll be a valuable addition to this community.
It's not about posting questions or answering them. It's about discovery and helping each other figure things out. The spoon-feeding is in the Wiki.
Oh, and the other thing that bugs me is that n00b's will create new threads when their post belongs in an existing thread. New threads do NOT get noticed 'more' than a new post in an existing thread.

I doubt I will ever contribute anything the likes of Pof or Sleuth, but I do plan on sticking around.
I just get annoyed when people act dumb on forums, so I appologize if I sounded harsh.

Charming gentleman this legolas.

Respect
I will do more searching before asking. I understand where your all coming from. And I respect that. I will reveiw more before asking questions. I appreciate the help from everyone. Maybe one day I'll be able to contribute as much as I take from this site.

LegolasTheElf said:
@teknics - that's great.. Hang around here long enough, and contribute back to the community by posting/answering good questions, or even taking it upon yourself to solve a common problem/concern, and you'll be a valuable addition to this community.
It's not about posting questions or answering them. It's about discovery and helping each other figure things out. The spoon-feeding is in the Wiki.
Oh, and the other thing that bugs me is that n00b's will create new threads when their post belongs in an existing thread. New threads do NOT get noticed 'more' than a new post in an existing thread.
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If you truly wish to provide help, then your initial response should have been something along the line of: "Hey, I did a search and found this, <LINK>, maybe it'll help."
Instead of stating how stupid someone is to ask a question that has been already asked...
Any forum will have more 'lurkers' than posters, your response will not help these folks become active members here.
There is no such thing as a stupid question, but I have seen many stupid answers...

Stupid noobs...

why are there so many noobs filling up the dev section with questions or stupid things that can be answered with just a simple search theres 3 pages of crap and not really anything is out development wise for our phones but what is out and in the works is greatly appreciated

Cool story, bro!

Jon C said:
Cool story, bro!
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lol im just saying once stuff actually does get released there's gonna be lots of crap around it kinda like one thread in dev saying froyo??? all it is, is a link saying that froyo is available for european phones that really shouldn't be in the dev section

Agreed.. I'm sick of the 3g question...

I really like the fact that it takes multiple people to post the same thing in each thread.
Kind of feels like Office Space around here =\
have you turned in your tps reports?

Why are there so many elitist snobs who think their own **** never stank?
be a helper, point people in the right direction, dont be a douchebag and you will encourage community involvement otherwise people will think most people here are a bunch of asses and it encourages the take without given back mentality.

KerryG said:
Why are there so many elitist snobs who think their own **** never stank?
be a helper, point people in the right direction, dont be a douchebag and you will encourage community involvement otherwise people will think most people here are a bunch of asses and it encourages the take without given back mentality.
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well as in being a douche bag im not im simply stating im tired of noobs posting in the wrong section, and i do help and tell them they are in the wrong section. And as for your statement, i dont see how that has to do with anything accept you being a noob and not understanding where im coming from. ive been here a while and helped lots as for you i cant say the same... so i think you should take your own advice.

That's why I made the sticky, that SOME neglect.

Just remember we were ALL NOOBS at one point wen we started here. Theirs really no need on cracking on sumone cause they dont kno anything and all their trying to do is learn.. Yea it blows that theirs all the silly questions and dis and dat out their but all that rlly needs to b done is point them to the rite section, you know why.. Simple, because if u dont help others, others wont help you pretty simple rite??
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Just a lot of lazy people who doesn't care about reading simple rules or care about them, they just want someone to answer their question when they have one and then move one happily with their phone.
cico7 said:
Just remember we were ALL NOOBS at one point wen we started here. Theirs really no need on cracking on sumone cause they dont kno anything and all their trying to do is learn.. Yea it blows that theirs all the silly questions and dis and dat out their but all that rlly needs to b done is point them to the rite section, you know why.. Simple, because if u dont help others, others wont help you pretty simple rite??
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Props to that people who wants to learn, but the ones who really wants to do it, they search and read, that's the best way of learning about something, just my point of view... anyhow life goes on so we need to point them to the right direction, always respectfully.

cico7 said:
Just remember we were ALL NOOBS at one point wen we started here. Theirs really no need on cracking on sumone cause they dont kno anything and all their trying to do is learn.. Yea it blows that theirs all the silly questions and dis and dat out their but all that rlly needs to b done is point them to the rite section, you know why.. Simple, because if u dont help others, others wont help you pretty simple rite??
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yes of course i agree but im putting this just to state that all this is getting out of hand and we cant do anything cause we really dont have a mod yet for the vibrant section... and i still help out of course and dont really bash on anyone in here cause its uncalled for...

KerryG said:
Why are there so many elitist snobs who think their own **** never stank?
be a helper, point people in the right direction, dont be a douchebag and you will encourage community involvement otherwise people will think most people here are a bunch of asses and it encourages the take without given back mentality.
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I think it's out of frustration. I've been on these forums READING for over a year just about every day. The DEV section should be the most moderated. There ends up being so much noise once it starts rolling, it's hard to keep up with any legitimate development changes or updates. Some people handle it "nicer" than others, but the point being, if people took the time to read before they type, their questions and comments are probably already covered. It's just frustrating seeing 3-4 mi gps iz brok threads on one page. Moderators will usually merge them so there is one cohesive conversation, not spread out over multiple threads. Why make them have to do that?
Think before you speak in forumese means read before you type.

skater4690 said:
well as in being a douche bag im not im simply stating im tired of noobs posting in the wrong section, and i do help and tell them they are in the wrong section. And as for your statement, i dont see how that has to do with anything accept you being a noob and not understanding where im coming from. ive been here a while and helped lots as for you i cant say the same... so i think you should take your own advice.
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In your Same Tone:
This Thread is useless, But seriously if you have been in different forums here on XDA from the very beginning, you will notice they are all like that and once roms and stuff starts getting developed, the amount of people asking and posting in wrong forums get minimized. I saw it with the G1, mytouch, htc Hero (EU), Nexus one, and now on here..... so if it upsets you that badly, create a site of your own and make it so that each user must take a "im not a noob Test" in order to become a member///-- End of Joke-- Or Just Wait a little longer for a Mod to be designated to clean out the mess.

i think it's due to a lot of people not realizing that this is a pretty technical forum so they think because they are asking a question that seems technical to them, they need to post it in the section that seems the most advanced. when really, dev is and should be just that, development. maybe 'general' should be renamed 'questions and help' or something.
but i'm a noob. i've been lurking and reading a bit, just don't post much. but i have to say, the first thread i made i got flamed (k, just toasted a little) because i asked for drivers AND help (in the right section), turns out the drivers everyone pointed me to i already had, so that was no help, and the other threads i read about mounting the phone didn't help. turned out the usb ports on the front of my pc just didn't like the phone, but of course it took posting a thread on here to make me think of something that simple.
that's my $.02

funeralthirst said:
i think it's due to a lot of people not realizing that this is a pretty technical forum so they think because they are asking a question that seems technical to them, they need to post it in the section that seems the most advanced. when really, dev is and should be just that, development. maybe 'general' should be renamed 'questions and help' or something.
but i'm a noob. i've been lurking and reading a bit, just don't post much. but i have to say, the first thread i made i got flamed (k, just toasted a little) because i asked for drivers AND help (in the right section), turns out the drivers everyone pointed me to i already had, so that was no help, and the other threads i read about mounting the phone didn't help. turned out the usb ports on the front of my pc just didn't like the phone, but of course it took posting a thread on here to make me think of something that simple.
that's my $.02
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i agree with you on this about people thinking it should be in dev and all that and it sounds reasonable i wass just hoping that maybe whoever sees and reads this will realize they should post here instead of the dev section even though there are stickies... i thought stupid noobs would bring some people in to read this lol

Skater, what are you talking about? The first post you posted in the development section was...
Uh, will the htc_ime work on this phone?
You, yourself posted a question about an app in the development section, and then got mad when I told you to search...
what did you yield? the apk.. how long did it take? not long...
when is the last time you actually sat down to help someone? to answer some questions? not just pulled up the dev section hoping there was a new rom out...
Dont stir the pot with this... just answer there question and educate them to post in the correct place, read the forum rules, or to search.. if a post gets out of hand, PM a Moderator and ask them to move/close a thread.. A wise man once said, contribute to the community or STFU...

junkdruggler said:
Skater, what are you talking about? The first post you posted in the development section was...
Uh, will the htc_ime work on this phone?
You, yourself posted a question about an app in the development section, and then got mad when I told you to search...
what did you yield? the apk.. how long did it take? not long...
when is the last time you actually sat down to help someone? to answer some questions? not just pulled up the dev section hoping there was a new rom out...
Dont stir the pot with this... just answer there question and educate them to post in the correct place, read the forum rules, or to search.. if a post gets out of hand, PM a Moderator and ask them to move/close a thread.. A wise man once said, contribute to the community or STFU...
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well if you would have correctly looked at the post i said it worked but didnt work right and yes i found one that worked but thats cause i had to try 3 or 4 different ones until i came across one that worked and how can you search something that nothing was made for? and i answer questions all the time i help when i can all i see you doing is saying search for it yourself or this is the wrong section but never did you give any advice as where to find something or anything helpful so you should listen to yourself and take your own advice and ive helped some by finding that apk that does work... more than i can say for you

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That's why I made the sticky, that SOME neglect.
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You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. It's on you. Put a page before the dev forum explaining this is not a place for ideas tell them where to go this is a place to talk code basically. Give examples of common instances. Ie. The post about 2.2 the person was probably trying to be helpful (like devs wouldn't know). If you want peace say if you're unsure post in general and let s mod move it if necessary. Stop crying and do something about it. Personally I'm tired of both sides. I just want to make my phone better and help where I can.

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Sony Ericsson Keyboard.

I used the Sony Ericsson Keyboard for the first time since they updated it today.
Everyone seems to hate, but it's not bad at all.
Especially when u want to pinpoint the cursor on a particular point. That's a nice touch.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App and the new SE keyboard.
Rooted
JIT
Xrecovery.

dante2086 said:
I used the Sony Ericsson Keyboard for the first time since they updated it today.
Everyone seems to hate, but it's not bad at all.
Especially when u want to pinpoint the cursor on a particular point. That's a nice touch.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App and the new SE keyboard.
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And the point of this thread is?
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batman_112 said:
And the point of this thread is?
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To maybe educate people about any improvement to the x10 keyboard.
What I didn't like about SE's KB was the lag. Do you notice any while using it?
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FreeX10 2.2 Beta3

violentgoomba said:
To maybe educate people about any improvement to the x10 keyboard.
What I didn't like about SE's KB was the lag. Do you notice any while using it?
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FreeX10 2.2 Beta3
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I did notice the lag, but it only comes at start then vanishes away
the only thing that keeps me using it is the pinpoint, it is really helpful and very useful to me

MJ_QaT said:
I did notice the lag, but it only comes at start then vanishes away
the only thing that keeps me using it is the pinpoint, it is really helpful and very useful to me
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I wonder if it can be optimized... cos it's a good keyboard sans lag
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FreeX10 2.2 Beta3

I like the easier editing but not the rest of it. I use the Vlingo keyboard for the voice features and the darker color scheme.
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It's definitely not the best keyboard. I have the HTC keyboard, and swype, believe me, I know.
But it's a big improvement from what it used to be.
PS: I don't notice any lag.
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batman_112 said:
And the point of this thread is?
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You're a disgrace to the name batman.
He's a genius you know, as for u, well...
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lol what does the new keypad look like as my X10i doesn't seem to want to update

It doesn't seem to play nice with mutiple fast inputs on different parts of the screen... I know it's not an mt-optimized keyboard but the lag is noticeable and sometimes it does not even detect it when you press multiple buttons in rapid succession, ie when you come close to true multi-touch typing.

dante2086 said:
You're a disgrace to the name batman.
He's a genius you know, as for u, well...
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1. You started a thread stating that you like the keyboard. I am glad you do but, how does this help others?
2. You posted in the wrong section. You should have posted in Themes and Apps.
3. Had you searched, you would have found multiple threads related to this. Here and here and here and here. There are many other threads, I just pulled up the first ones that came up when I used the search button.
Maybe you should have posted your opinion on one of those threads rather than opening a new one in the wrong section?

Well, thanks for the heads up Bruce Wayne. But cut a new member some slack.
And isn't this section called X10 GENERAL.
So I thought, the stock keyboard is kinda general.
And, if I post something in a wrong place, offer correction, and don't be all rude and such.
That's all.
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dante2086 said:
Well, thanks for the heads up Bruce Wayne. But cut a new member some slack.
And isn't this section called X10 GENERAL.
So I thought, the stock keyboard is kinda general.
And, if I post something in a wrong place, offer correction, and don't be all rude and such.
That's all.
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Well, as a new member you should have read the first post in the General section, shouldn't you? I mean you can't miss it. It's a sticky on the top of the page? In case you didn't read it, here it is....
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Thinking of posting a new thread???
Use the search button on the top bar between "New Posts" and "Quick Links"
Threads posted in the wrong fora will be moved initially; however, for repeat offenders, the moderating team will look to take action to rectify the situation in a manner it believes is appropriate
WITHOUT FURTHER NOTICE.
It is the responsibility of all users to keep the fora organised and clean. We need you to do your bit to keep things orderly.
To the dedicated members that care to keep this forum, subforums included, clean and organized and grouped.
Please start reporting threads to the mods to take action. Please use the REPORT button to do so.
Thank You and happy easy searching.
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Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
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this is pure spaming.. read what -PiLoT- said and don't add the useless threads.
thanks

I'm not arguing with you or anyone.
I'm just saying, don't be rude, it's as simple as that.
XDA is not the place to be an ass.
It wouldn't kill you to have pasted the pilot thread in your first post.
Simple as that.

dante2086 said:
I'm not arguing with you or anyone.
I'm just saying, don't be rude, it's as simple as that.
XDA is not the place to be an ass.
It wouldn't kill you to have pasted the pilot thread in your first post.
Simple as that.
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Agree. Try respect each other please. Don't embrace other. Peace...
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batman_112 said:
1. You started a thread stating that you like the keyboard. I am glad you do but, how does this help others?
2. You posted in the wrong section. You should have posted in Themes and Apps.
3. Had you searched, you would have found multiple threads related to this. Here and here and here and here. There are many other threads, I just pulled up the first ones that came up when I used the search button.
Maybe you should have posted your opinion on one of those threads rather than opening a new one in the wrong section?
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why so serious?

What's Wrong With This Site?

I'd like to start off by thanking XDA & their Dev's for all the hard work & great software they make available for all of us noob's out here.
Now what is wrong with the rest of you? I've been looking over a lot of posts on XDA's Epic section & you cannot find the answers to any issues, that I know have already been discussed, without haveing to read pages & pages & pages of whining, bickering, & just down right immature & unappropiate off topic comments. This is the only Forum I have really found to be flooded like this. Jokes are great, but this is rediculous. Neither Android Central or Bonsia seem to have this issue. Android Central is a very good group, but a lot of the software comes from XDA so I come here to research at the source.
Really Guy's!! These Dev's bust their butt's to bring us this stuff & give all the help that the rest of us need to make it work. You should not be so disrespectful of them & the XDA site in general.
OK I'll get off of my soap box now.....

Lol ya I agree this is the only place where you can make a joke about trolling and get flamed by a troll
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monke30butt said:
I'd like to start off by thanking XDA & their Dev's for all the hard work & great software they make available for all of us noob's out here.
Now what is wrong with the rest of you? I've been looking over a lot of posts on XDA's Epic section & you cannot find the answers to any issues, that I know have already been discussed, without haveing to read pages & pages & pages of whining, bickering, & just down right immature & unappropiate off topic comments. This is the only Forum I have really found to be flooded like this. Jokes are great, but this is rediculous. Neither Android Central or Bonsia seem to have this issue. Android Central is a very good group, but a lot of the software comes from XDA so I come here to research at the source.
Really Guy's!! These Dev's bust their butt's to bring us this stuff & give all the help that the rest of us need to make it work. You should not be so disrespectful of them & the XDA site in general.
OK I'll get off of my soap box now.....
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What issues are you having? I can help.

qbking77 said:
What issues are you having? I can help.
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XD I think this one is outta your league bro, you can't change the user base. Its the ratio of regular users versus developers is my best guess, the Epic is very popular and by very different types of people. Plenty of personality clashes.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk

I have to agree with the OP. I came to the epic from the moment and the transform. These forums are flooded with questions and requests in the development section, people requesting user specific roms from the rom developer in the rom development threads, the same questions being asked over and over, etc. When I developed for the transform, the rom I developed was built for me, the kernel I developed was built for me, if someone wanted it different, they had to research and do it themselves.

Answers simple. From what I've noticed a lot of epic owners are young on this board. That and there are nerds up here that seems to think they've a huge cack. They complain about rolling, but dont realize there flooding the forum with nonsense just as much as the noobs.
sent from the ePc4gee

Not to be fresh, but this topic has been discussed to death. If you're so worried about flooding the forum with repeated posts complaining about things, why are you doing just that? You could pm individuals and try to help them with ettiquite. I just don't think this kind of response will change things. There can be a mix of fun and tech. If a dev is offended, they've never had problems expressing so.
Sent from my armed and operational battle station.

The Root said:
Not to be fresh, but this topic has been discussed to death. If you're so worried about flooding the forum with repeated posts complaining about things, why are you doing just that? You could pm individuals and try to help them with ettiquite. I just don't think this kind of response will change things. There can be a mix of fun and tech. If a dev is offended, they've never had problems expressing so.
Sent from my armed and operational battle station.
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This thread was a mix of a thank you to the devs themers and mods who put their time and effort to bring us everything they put out(lol) , along with a sidenote to all those trolling and dickering on the forums.
I didn't join to long ago, I'm 16 in highschool ,hah, but for the first couple of weeks I would just lurk around with no post t try and learn on my own before posting something already answered/irrelevent to the topic and such, and I've noticed these forums have just gone downhill since I've joined. There's a dev drain going on around here. I think what all the devs and themers mods really need is some gratefullness from us, their end users...
Then again that's just my 2 cents thrown in the mix. Have a good day everyone
Sent from my SPH-D700

dreamsforgotten said:
XD I think this one is outta your league bro, you can't change the user base
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Well said. I think that it comes from the Epic's user base, which, IMO, tends to be a bit more techie, a bit less social skilled, and a bit more easy to get into a huff.

monke30butt said:
I'd like to start off by thanking XDA & their Dev's for all the hard work & great software they make available for all of us noob's out here.
Now what is wrong with the rest of you? I've been looking over a lot of posts on XDA's Epic section & you cannot find the answers to any issues, that I know have already been discussed, without haveing to read pages & pages & pages of whining, bickering, & just down right immature & unappropiate off topic comments. This is the only Forum I have really found to be flooded like this. Jokes are great, but this is rediculous. Neither Android Central or Bonsia seem to have this issue. Android Central is a very good group, but a lot of the software comes from XDA so I come here to research at the source.
Really Guy's!! These Dev's bust their butt's to bring us this stuff & give all the help that the rest of us need to make it work. You should not be so disrespectful of them & the XDA site in general.
OK I'll get off of my soap box now.....
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Its all comes down to moderating. If the moderators allow it to happen then there isn't much you can do. I know XDA being a very high volume traffic forum its hard to keep on top of the hundreds of posts each day here.
I do tip my hat to the devs and the ones that go out of their way to help others answer the questions but as far as the useless posts especially in ROM/Theme or Q & A threads its uncalled for and they should be removed if its off topic. It does get very aggravating trying to find information or stay on top of things when you have to read through post after post of wasted space.
This is just my two cents, I don't really have a problem with it but I do understand where the OP and others are coming from when trying to find answers and research things when your a noob or even a knowledgeable user.

Would it be worse if the Boost crowd roamed this forum?

I'm part of that boost crowd I guess...
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qbking77 said:
What issues are you having? I can help.
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No real issues, I was just researching Swiss Cheese to see if I wanted to switch from SRF 1.1.1 (the FM radio caught my eye), just trying to see the pro's & con's. Many thanks for the offer though.....
ac16313 said:
This thread was a mix of a thank you to the devs themers and mods who put their time and effort to bring us everything they put out(lol) , along with a sidenote to all those trolling and dickering on the forums.
I didn't join to long ago, I'm 16 in highschool ,hah, but for the first couple of weeks I would just lurk around with no post t try and learn on my own before posting something already answered/irrelevent to the topic and such, and I've noticed these forums have just gone downhill since I've joined. There's a dev drain going on around here. I think what all the devs and themers mods really need is some gratefullness from us, their end users...
Then again that's just my 2 cents thrown in the mix. Have a good day everyone
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Very well said, I am very impressed.
Paul627g said:
I do tip my hat to the devs and the ones that go out of their way to help others answer the questions but as far as the useless posts especially in ROM/Theme or Q & A threads its uncalled for and they should be removed if its off topic. It does get very aggravating trying to find information or stay on top of things when you have to read through post after post of wasted space.
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Absolutely right!!!
I was just venting. I've been on AC since Jan & here since Feb, have never posted here before just looked around & did my research, just wanted to voice my opinion, that's all......

chris41g said:
I'm part of that boost crowd I guess...
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WHERE U AT DAWG?!
God I miss those stupid commercials.
Nothing useful to add other than this forum has a bunch of very different personalities on it as was mentioned earlier, that and a very large number of them are very young/immature.... which amplifies the problem. Combine that with a product that has limited rom support/lacking sources etc compared to more popular phones that have high level development because of full sources and/or higher popularity... you get a whole lot of butthurt and entitlement issues from the peanut gallery.

Superbovine said:
WHERE U AT DAWG?!
God I miss those stupid commercials.
Nothing useful to add other than this forum has a bunch of very different personalities on it as was mentioned earlier, that and a very large number of them are very young/immature.... which amplifies the problem. Combine that with a product that has limited rom support/lacking sources etc compared to more popular phones that have high level development because of full sources and/or higher popularity... you get a whole lot of butthurt and entitlement issues from the peanut gallery.
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OMG
I Heard it in my head -_-
i hated those commercials

iSaint said:
OMG
I Heard it in my head -_-
i hated those commercials
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BLEEPBLORP WHERE YOU AT?
I got a kick out of this bit too, several years later:
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I personally think that most issues come from people asking question about issues that come with the rom they're running that was mostly likely answered.To solve this issue with constant questioning of How to fix this and that I think someone who flashed a lot of roms and know a lot aout the epic should make a thread telling how to fix certain issues relating to any rom in particular. For example say that a rom keep having force closes, most likely the reason for these force closes are caused by a bad flash, so the thread would say "for multiply forces to be solve do a clean wipe ( wipe everything 3x) and reflash Rom." I chose this example because most issues people go through are multiply force closes when flashing new Roms.

The reason a lot of questions are left unanswered is because 90% of the time they have been answered already in about 10 different threads or posts. We get an ass-ton of repeat questions. I understand not everybody wants to sift through lots of unwanted clutter, but we do have a search feature for a reason.

djbacon06 said:
The reason a lot of questions are left unanswered is because 90% of the time they have been answered already in about 10 different threads or posts. We get an ass-ton of repeat questions. I understand not everybody wants to sift through lots of unwanted clutter, but we do have a search feature for a reason.
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Search doesn't help users find what they're searching for

djbacon06 said:
The reason a lot of questions are left unanswered is because 90% of the time they have been answered already in about 10 different threads or posts. We get an ass-ton of repeat questions. I understand not everybody wants to sift through lots of unwanted clutter, but we do have a search feature for a reason.
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Too True!!!

New Forum Mod -Read Before Posting-

Hi all,
I would like to take this opportunity to introduce myself, my user name is original_ganjaman. I have been assigned to moderate this forum.
My goal is to keep this forum as clean and easy to find what you need as quickly as possible. I ask you to help me by posting in the correct sections.
Please only post ROM Development, Hacks, Mods, Fixes and Tutorials in the development section, all questions go in Q&A. This prevents the development section getting clogged up by irrelevant posts.
When posting in the development section, please try to provide as much information in the thread title as possible. It makes it easier for users to find what they are after. Here is a example provided by ooie.
[Type][Date][Model]Rom name here[Android/Linux kernel version number][Beta/Alpha]
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Resulting in the thread title looking like this:
[ROM][Dec 13][U8800]OOIE rom v0.1[2.3.7][BETA]
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If you see any thread that is in the wrong section or if you see any questionable posts, please don't hesitate to click the report (
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"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
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"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
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"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
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) button.
Please post any sticky requests in this thread.
Lets all work together to make this a fantastic forum

Any word about splitting U8800 and U8800pro? The ROM's for U8800 don't work for U8800pro and vice-versa.
I'm glad we got someone who is active here .

Blefish said:
Any word about splitting U8800 and U8800pro? The ROM's for U8800 don't work for U8800pro and vice-versa.
I'm glad we got someone who is active here .
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When i was assigned this forum i read through some of the threads. I did notice this was a common question. I as of yet have not been informed of any split. For now you will just have to live with it, But i do see the frustration. This is not the only device with this problem and i am sure it will be addressed as quickly as possible. When i hear any news i will post.
I will be keeping a close eye on this forum and would appreciate any help.
Peace!

Its a really good thing we get a moderator that has time to do his job. Welcome to U8800 forums!

Cinthiar said:
Its a really good thing we get a moderator that has time to do his job. Welcome to U8800 forums!
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Thanks for the warm welcome.
I would also like to thank those who have sent RPs. They help me keep everything nice and tidy and to weed out the unsavory posts!
Peace!

Could you enforce some sort of mandatory thread naming requirement for this subforum? I see a lot of people complaining about it.
Something like
[Type][Date][Model]Rom name here[Android/Linux kernel version number]
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[ROM][Dec 13][U8800]OOIE rom v0.1[2.3.7]
[Kernel][Dec 8][U8800]Superfasthyperkernel 1.0[2.6.35.7]
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(and maybe add a tag if it's experimental or in an alpha/beta phase)
This is just one proposal, but I think would make it much more easier for everyone. Please state what you think.

ooie said:
Could you enforce some sort of mandatory thread naming requirement for this subforum? I see a lot of people complaining about it.
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Tell me about it, just been sorting it all out. I personally think its a good idea to have some kind of mandatory thread naming system, it would make information easier to find. Unfortunately as far as i am aware there is nothing in the forum rules about it, so i cant really enforce any type of system. What i will do is update the read before posting sticky asking for users to Name the thread appropriately. But as i said its not fair to enforce it as its not in other forums. Best thing, if the info is not there to PM the OP and politely ask him to add the info. If you don't get a polite reply, let me know.
I will think of some sort of system and post it here tomorrow.
Hows that?

And the U8800-51?
original_ganjaman said:
When i was assigned this forum i read through some of the threads. I did notice this was a common question. I as of yet have not been informed of any split. For now you will just have to live with it, But i do see the frustration. This is not the only device with this problem and i am sure it will be addressed as quickly as possible. When i hear any news i will post.
I will be keeping a close eye on this forum and would appreciate any help.
Peace!
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Huawei make 3 versions por the Ideos X5: U8800 (2010, December), U8800PRO (2011, Q2) and the U8800-51 (2011, Q3). Three different machines for the same model, different CPU and Chipset, so, the ROM, tools, hints and tips are totally incompatible between the models. We really need to split the forum.
http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_u8800_ideos_x5-3596.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_u8800_pro-4226.php
And the U8800 is like the U8800Pro, with different processor and chipset.

iceman2029 said:
Huawei make 3 versions por the Ideos X5: U8800 (2010, December), U8800PRO (2011, Q2) and the U8800-51 (2011, Q3). Three different machines for the same model, different CPU and Chipset, so, the ROM, tools, hints and tips are totally incompatible between the models. We really need to split the forum.
http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_u8800_ideos_x5-3596.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_u8800_pro-4226.php
And the U8800 is like the U8800Pro, with different processor and chipset.
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As i said before, i do see the frustration on this matter. It is not the only device in this situation. The matter is being looked into by the moderator committee. When a decision has been made i will post. But for now we will just have to live with it.
Sorry i cant help any further.

Hi all
I have had a response to the request for a separate u8800pro. It looks like it will have to go through the usual request procedure. It really is down to the amount of people who get behind it. So if somebody wants to request it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=263
With the amount of new devices getting released it is a hard call to pick the popular ones. So if you want it, get behind it and post.
So for now thats all i can do. Sorry its not a happier answer, but its not down to me.
Take it easy
O_G

original_ganjaman said:
When i was assigned this forum i read through some of the threads. I did notice this was a common question. I as of yet have not been informed of any split. For now you will just have to live with it, But i do see the frustration. This is not the only device with this problem and i am sure it will be addressed as quickly as possible. When i hear any news i will post.
I will be keeping a close eye on this forum and would appreciate any help.
Peace!
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Two Sub-Forums please like the Nexus S and Nexus S 4G.
See here the better way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=880
One Sub-Forum to U8800 and one to U8800PRO.
Thanks

original_ganjaman said:
Hi all
I have had a response to the request for a separate u8800pro. It looks like it will have to go through the usual request procedure. It really is down to the amount of people who get behind it. So if somebody wants to request it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=263
With the amount of new devices getting released it is a hard call to pick the popular ones. So if you want it, get behind it and post.
So for now thats all i can do. Sorry its not a happier answer, but its not down to me.
Take it easy
O_G
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ValenteL said:
Two Sub-Forums please like the Nexus S and Nexus S 4G.
See here the better way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=880
One Sub-Forum to U8800 and one to U8800PRO.
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I had already answered this. I have done all i can about it, if you want it then post in the forum i suggested
If anybody else asks this, the post will be deleted. I dont want this thread to be a list of people asking the same question. Its out of my hands!!
Take it easy
O_G

ValenteL gave a good example.
I thought you already know what is moderator job. Just say that you don't know how to do it.
Or maybe you can learn how to do it. Come on. Don't take it too easy. Many ppl wait for it.

twinhackerz said:
ValenteL gave a good example.
I thought you already know what is moderator job. Just say that you don't know how to do it.
Or maybe you can learn how to do it. Come on. Don't take it too easy. Many ppl wait for it.
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I have made it very clear. i am not responsible for adding subforums. I did my best by posting in the mod forum asking for it to be added. But was told that enough people had to get behind it. I said somebody should start a thread in the about xda forum and then people to post there interest in the forum being split.
Now i have done beyond what my job is as a moderator. In the end i put my time in for free to try to keep this forum moderated. This does not include the administration of this great forum. If you have a problem with that i suggest you contact MikeChannon, he is the site administrator.
Now, your responsibility as a user. One of these is to read the posts in the thread, if you would of done this, all your questions would of been answered. So i would say you have quite epically failed in this. I could of just deleted your post, like i warned i would. So call this a final warning.
So what have you contributed to this forum?
So for the last time, If you want a sub forum then post a thread here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416406
You keep taking it "easy"

@original_ganjaman, just ignore those unhelpful posts.. u've already done a great job.. and the forum is obviously a lot cleaner (in the sense of language/words used by a couple of ppl) than before.. thx a lot for ur work!

iamelton said:
@original_ganjaman, just ignore those unhelpful posts.. u've already done a great job.. and the forum is obviously a lot cleaner (in the sense of language/words used by a couple of ppl) than before.. thx a lot for ur work!
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This!
Thank you

iamelton said:
@original_ganjaman, just ignore those unhelpful posts.. u've already done a great job.. and the forum is obviously a lot cleaner (in the sense of language/words used by a couple of ppl) than before.. thx a lot for ur work!
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Thank you for your kind words of support. I am pleased hear that my work has made this forum better. Thanks to all that have helped me out by reporting posts, it has helped me a lot
A merry Christmas/Holiday to all

Cheers for helping moderate around here.
Could we have the wiki for the x5 stickied in the general thread? I am trying to get a handle on what is available and working on the x5 and having a wiki visible could make people more likely to use it and keep it up to date so all info is central.
See thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20774191#post20774191
Thanks
Paul

PaulMilbank said:
Cheers for helping moderate around here.
Could we have the wiki for the x5 stickied in the general thread? I am trying to get a handle on what is available and working on the x5 and having a wiki visible could make people more likely to use it and keep it up to date so all info is central.
See thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20774191#post20774191
Thanks
Paul
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Great idea. I have myself set one up for the HTC Titan. It might well help some of the confusion with the different models. Will get that sorted by tomorrow.
Peace!

Done, WIKI Sticky created in the general section. Hope its helpfull.
Peace!