I say we post here asking for the two jerk offs that are destroying this dev forum to be ban from this community pleas show your support with a simple “ ban this jerk off”
Please Mods Ban this guy
jdkoreclipse
and his little butt buddy also he is nothing but a pain in our neck
And thank you to all the legit devs that have taken the task of conquering the droid x and for all the hard work you are still putting in cant wait to see the progress over the coming months
couple of links for you to read just showing a portion of this guys spam and the effect he has on our community
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=763477
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7818595&postcount=106
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=108
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=762527
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=763384
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761938
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7812468&postcount=97
mods please ban, i visit other forums for jokes, not xda
regardless to how common knowledge their bs is perhaps you should post some links etc
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I thought we are trying to hack some cell phones here. Who the hell do you think you are making a thread "in android development" that is trying to ban someone! This thread should be taken down ASAP!
andre104623 said:
I thought we are trying to hack some cell phones here. Who the hell do you think you are making a thread "in android development" that is trying to ban someone! This thread should be taken down ASAP!
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im no one special i just see tons of post by this guy disrupting the community and i am no dev but eithier is this guy but he claims to be and spams our community with multiple accounts he is nothing but trouble
people like this are the reason xda has been slowly receeding from the android community as a creditable source that is sad because we have a lot of talent floating around here and there used to be productive convos on this forum
andre104623 said:
I thought we are trying to hack some cell phones here. Who the hell do you think you are making a thread "in android development" that is trying to ban someone! This thread should be taken down ASAP!
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Agreed...this is the crap we need out of the dev forum. Mods please move...
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im no one special i just see tons of post by this guy disrupting the community and i am no dev but eithier is this guy but he claims to be and spams our community with multiple accounts he is nothing but trouble
people like this are the reason xda has been slowly receeding from the android community as a creditable source that is sad because we have a lot of talent floating around here and there used to be productive convos on this forum
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That's not your job
i know its not my job because if it was this guy would be gone
grndnpnd said:
im no one special i just see tons of post by this guy disrupting the community and i am no dev but eithier is this guy but he claims to be and spams our community with multiple accounts he is nothing but trouble
people like this are the reason xda has been slowly receeding from the android community as a creditable source that is sad because we have a lot of talent floating around here and there used to be productive convos on this forum
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Im not supporting this person doing this **** but try to understand this is for android development of the droid x not some kind of blog
and what do you call what he is doing do you see the 2000 views he has had on his bs thread about a droid x rom that makes everyone that is working hard to put something out look bad man we cant let him keep getting away with this its not his first time nor on his first device go read the 100+ post on his dominate rom post in your android dev forum i dont see you over there telling him to stop
The mods have stepped in now i dont know how to remove a thread but i would be more than happy to do so i appologize if i offended you but that kid had to go man
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and what do you call what he is doing do you see the 2000 views he has had on his bs thread about a droid x rom that makes everyone that is working hard to put something out look bad man we cant let him keep getting away with this its not his first time nor on his first device go read the 100+ post on his dominate rom post in your android dev forum i dont see you over there telling him to stop
The mods have stepped in now i dont know how to remove a thread but i would be more than happy to do so i appologize if i offended you but that kid had to go man
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Well Im going to be blunt about this He is a sick **** that likes getting his kicks off by posting fake threads, he is a dumb ass, a lier, and a ****. But even if he gets baned and he will because he has got baned before he will make a new screen name and do it all over again
It is pretty pathetic that his posts go to such an extent that he even puts lengthy changelogs for roms he never even makes.
I think we should all cut him a break and let him stay. I feel kinda bad for a kid thats got nothing else to do. I mean come on, its got to be really bad for him if thats what he calls fun. So sad....Im actually gonna cry a bit. Nevermind I got over it.
This keeps getting weirder. Looking at OP's post history, and I can't help but think that it's actually the same kid. I truly think we're dealing with a troubled young person who has unsupervised 'net access.
This should be moved to "General" forum or something. It honestly doesn't belong in the Dev section. Although it was entertaining.
**** all of you haters...especially arronjb and andre ****face.....
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This keeps getting weirder. Looking at OP's post history, and I can't help but think that it's actually the same kid. I truly think we're dealing with a troubled young person who has unsupervised 'net access.
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im not the same kid lol
what about my post history ok i have said some stupid things not understanding (Efuse) but i admit i dont understand and i take the things that people say and learn from them. i never claim to work on a project i dont have the know how to complete or even start.
never have i been a burdon to this community being slightly ignorant in the programing and hardware aspect of these devices and os is not a crime and i have always felt the it was incouraged to learn here. so thats what im doing learning im not a devoloper and never have claimed to be one i have offered up my device for testing because i can afford to replace my device if it bricks because i want to see the droid x become as custamizable one day as my poor excuse for an android eris but w/e man think what you will
i am normaly a silent observer and donator so step off bro
This kid really does need the boot, he does nothing but bring drama to this community and this site. He needs to be banned not only for what he's done, but what he might do in the future, he's a virus. There are far too many good people here that want to learn and share info with each other, but this kid basically ruins it for the rest of us. Please do us all a favor and get rid of him(and get rid of him again when he makes a new screen name).
Booooot him!
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This isnt the way to handle the situation guys........you are feeding his addiction, how much you want to bet he's sitting there mashing the f5 button anxsiouly waiting to see what everyone is saying about him? After reading his thread about making a Nexus One kernel, I do agree it is getting out of hand but this truly is a job for the mods, the community IS his addicition, and all we are doing is feeding it. I wish I had a solution but after typing a few and then deleting them while typing this post I realize I am at a loss. Even if we all agreed to ignore him, what about the people who are visiting xda for the first time??? I have been visiting the Droid X forum daily since its inception here at xda(day oner), and it saddens me greatly to see this lunacy has spread from the Incredible forum which I have also frequented for some time.
How is this thread not locked yet?
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You got drama in my Android development!
I would also support the deletion of this thread.
Haha. i remember this guy from when I had an N1, and yet I'm so naive that he got me again. His act does kind of put a damper on things, but I agree with those who think that he is less of ****ty person than he is a troubled person in need of attention. In fact, while this thread obviously doesn't belong in the Dev forum (or xda at all for that matter), I find this situation fascinating. He would make a great case study for my Master's thesis.
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I'm sorry to inform everyone but I'm leaving xda. I will update my work to work with the new CWM and that will be all.
Xda is getting old. Feels like I'm back in high school. To many people whining about froyo. No one knows how to use the search button. No one appreciates the work people do and demand changes. I'm sick of repeating myself cause retards don't know how to read. Mods never around and when they show up the come riding in on a high horse. I'm sure theres other reasons I'm forgetting but don't really care.
This site started off as a hobbie and became a constant headache. I have a life outside of here unlike some members and its time I start to live it again.
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Later Gator.
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Agreed,i think its just Epic forums because Vibrant's xda forums are more organized and mod does a better job.
mysteryemotionz said:
I'm sorry to inform everyone but I'm leaving xda. I will update my work to work with the new CWM and that will be all.
Xda is getting old. Feels like I'm back in high school. To many people whining about froyo. No one knows how to use the search button. No one appreciates the work people do and demand changes. I'm sick of repeating myself cause retards don't know how to read. Mods never around and when they show up the come riding in on a high horse. I'm sure theres other reasons I'm forgetting but don't really care.
This site started off as a hobbie and became a constant headache. I have a life outside of here unlike some members and its time I start to live it again.
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Count me in, XDA is like a zoo now. At first it was awesome, but with the influx of people asking repetative questions it has gotten old fast. Maybe hopefully (don't count on it) official froyo will help this but I doubt it. Its time to move on, I appreciate all of the supporters of my themes and work I have done for mystery. Best of luck to everyone else, I don't know how the hell you rom devs can tolerate the stupidity of people but props. Oh and one final thought: ACS will continue to receive my work and support, simply because both rob and k0nane appreciate it. So don't think you won't hear from me again, just probably not directly on XDA.
Goodbye.
ACS ftw.
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lviv73 said:
Agreed,i think its just Epic forums because Vibrant's xda forums are more organized and mod does a better job.
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No other forum on this site has even close to the amount of issues that the Epic forum has. It's purely pathetic that people can't help rather than set everyone back constantly. Go read any thread on the Vibrant section; hardly any noobs asking stupid ****ing questions over and over.
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Count me in, XDA is like a zoo now. At first it was awesome, but with the influx of people asking repetative questions it has gotten old fast. Maybe hopefully (don't count on it) official froyo will help this but I doubt it. Its time to move on, I appreciate all of the supporters of my themes and work I have done for mystery. Best of luck to everyone else, I don't know how the hell you rom devs can tolerate the stupidity of people but props. Oh and one final thought: ACS will continue to receive my work and support, simply because both rob and k0nane appreciate it. So don't think you won't hear from me again, just probably not directly on XDA.
Goodbye.
ACS ftw.
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I still plan on working closely with ACS just not directly threw xda
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I completely agree with you guys in the shambles that the epic forums are and I'm not even a dev. I'm glad you guys will continue to theme and if you move to a new forum or site I would love to be able to be able to get your themes firsthand. I would suggest spj since they have a ton of mods that will issue infractions and bans for not searching and violating forum rules. Thanks for all that you have done for my phone
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Ah sad to see you go bro.
Thanks for all the time you put into your work dude.
Your welcome back anytime. Well by me atleast.
don't forget that you to were once noobs and your questions probably irritated some one. thanks for what you have given and sorry to see you go.
Holla JK, Man i wonder why ppl even feed guys that ask questions they are tired of hearing or whine about something in xda,just ignore them lol.
Often starts at the top.
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Agreed,i think its just Epic forums because Vibrant's xda forums are more organized and mod does a better job.
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SemiGamer and Sh0wNuf, you two guys among very few others have been the epitomy of helpful and useful users on this forum, and I for one have always had a deep respect for both of you ever since the Epic forums were in their infancy. If there were a thousand more users like you guys, none of this would be necessary. Thanks for the support, I know I speak for mystery as well when I say it has been much appreciated.
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bye bye guys
Take it easy guys ...You've both done great things for the Epic and i'm sure no one will forget it. Thanks for everything you've done.
Stupid noobs...
Sucks u guys have to go..
But if you insist...
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Thank you guys for all you've done, love the themes and it sucks you guys will be leaving. Wish you both the best and hopefully someway... somehow, i will find your updated themes.
Damn I hate to see this type of **** happen,,,your work has been great,and people do care...I remeber being a noob when I had a Moment and was over at sdx.But I never asked 1 question,I did alot of reading and now I build ROMs,if only people would just read and search I think this would stop the headaches and reposts...Sorry,but I wish you the best,anyone thats leaving.
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don't forget that you to were once noobs and your questions probably irritated some one. thanks for what you have given and sorry to see you go.
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Not everyone was a noob. Some read the threads and used the search option before they ever posted a thing. I really wish more people would do that and appreciate the sometimes rather difficult problems that the ROM makers go through. They could be making a lot more money in the industry but rather are here helping out the community. That I can never forget and always appreciate.
mysteryemotionz said:
I'm sorry to inform everyone but I'm leaving xda. I will update my work to work with the new CWM and that will be all.
Xda is getting old. Feels like I'm back in high school. To many people whining about froyo. No one knows how to use the search button. No one appreciates the work people do and demand changes. I'm sick of repeating myself cause retards don't know how to read. Mods never around and when they show up the come riding in on a high horse. I'm sure theres other reasons I'm forgetting but don't really care.
This site started off as a hobbie and became a constant headache. I have a life outside of here unlike some members and its time I start to live it again.
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It's hard to read this and not wonder how you have not already come to understand that all forums have the problems you are citing. This happens every day in any forum you can name on any and every topic possible.
It's sad that you can't separate the vocal minority from the silent majority. Instead you make overreaching general statements about the state of the XDA forums based on your observation of maybe 20 users who whine about updates and are too lazy to search.
Honestly, if you are unable to separate the signal from the noise and your skin is too thin to take a handful of annoying people demanding something from you then we are all probably better off with your departure.
Noob **** is a problem on every forum.
That i don't become a damn moderator... EVER. I would pass out bans to every idiot decided to shout OMG WRONG FORUM 2 seconds after something was posted rather than just answering a damn question.
When the hell are people going to wake up and realize that the people that aren't as tech savvy are going to make mistakes. It's 10x easier to help and let a mod do their god damn job rather than just waste time typing useless BS.
If anybody bothers reading this, please for the love of god be a good member of the community. You are worth nothing more than ANYBODY else regardless of what your thanks meter says. Even developers need to play by the same rules as everybody else, be civil and don't lash out at people for simple mistakes.
Oh ya, BTW, the Q & A section of any god damn forum is almost always the least active. This isn't yahoo answers, people don't come here and log in with the intent of answering questions. They come here to flash roms. Do you think even developers frequently check Q & A? Probably not. So perhaps the better thing to do is create an optional section of the development forum that has questions pertaining to development. Turn it off if you don't care and leave it on if you don't mind firing off an answer every once in a while.
Developers know answers to questions, not the people that post in the Q & A forums... you know the people with the damn questions.
So please, everybody, get off your high horse. This is an internet forum. It was created to be a resource for people that want to improve their phone. Get rid of this drama, it would result in a better community.
P.S. The savagedzenkernel crap that happened here is ridiculous. As well as a lot of the things going on this Evo development forum. A lot of favoritism as of late and it's kind of sad. If you don't get thanked in a long list of thanks are you really losing sleep? You developed something and are distributing it for free, you make it public. If you know it's in their work then you have the satisfaction of knowing they had to use your stuff to make their **** work. That's all the thanks you need, you want more don't make it public. If i stand outside of a store with free pretzels i don't expect everybody to say thank you when they take one.
Funniest part, the average end user could give a crap about who did what in a kernel or who tweaked what governor. They don't even care who you are, what your name is, or what your rep is. Most don't donate (I have donated various times to various roms myself) and I never USED to. Once i became more involved, i did.
So, please, everybody... strive for something better rather than the trash this site is slowly becoming. Change starts with the individual.
Thanks for the time it took to read this,
Dave
That was a waste of space!
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Cool story bro
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It's a losing battle i'm just going to give in to the avalanche.
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WRONG FORU.... ohhh, nevermind
Thumbs up and a thanks for posting in the right spot
One of the few members I have seen around for a while and always seems to be optimistic and friendly.
Thank you Haus
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WRONG FORU.... ohhh, nevermind
Thumbs up and a thanks for posting in the right spot
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I don't have a problem nor do I disagree with what you said but honestly posting this is just encouraging an attack.
this subjects already been posted. Didn't use the search button?
Its not 100% true though. I come to the general forum and q&a just to try and help people out and answer questions.
the op need a diaper changed
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When I grow up, I want to be an XDA moderator so I can ban people for creating useless threads like this one.
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Everyone is saying this thread is useless, but I actually agree with it. The drama that has been going on around the Supersonic section is getting out of hand.
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I wish I had more hands so I can give this OP 4 thumbs down. If u can find a better community to help you make your phone just that much more amazing then , c ya.
Edit: to add some more uselessness to this thread, goodmorning everyone.
Swyped from my eVo
Lighten up, Francis.
Sorry... had to.
OMG where are the moderators?? Someone should close this thread and ban people.
While I agree that there are a lot of tools on this forum that come in and flame on the noobs, one can only take so many, "how do I root my Evo?" And every other retarded question that's asked that could have been answered by doing a quick fast and easy search. And then if you don't answer there question immediately, or give them the link that answers the question, they get snooty because you didn't answer the question, but pawned them off to another thread.
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AMEN
I am sure everyone has made the mistake of posting in the wrong forum one time or another. It is amazing how fast some people starting flaming. It's as though they are just skimming through the forums waiting to find something or someone to jump on. I would ban people too.
Reminds me of my job, a lot of co-workers better hope I never become their manager. I will fire their arses in a heartbeat.
davenukem said:
That i don't become a damn moderator... EVER. I would pass out bans to every idiot decided to shout OMG WRONG FORUM 2 seconds after something was posted rather than just answering a damn question.
When the hell are people going to wake up and realize that the people that aren't as tech savvy are going to make mistakes. It's 10x easier to help and let a mod do their god damn job rather than just waste time typing useless BS.
If anybody bothers reading this, please for the love of god be a good member of the community. You are worth nothing more than ANYBODY else regardless of what your thanks meter says. Even developers need to play by the same rules as everybody else, be civil and don't lash out at people for simple mistakes.
Oh ya, BTW, the Q & A section of any god damn forum is almost always the least active. This isn't yahoo answers, people don't come here and log in with the intent of answering questions. They come here to flash roms. Do you think even developers frequently check Q & A? Probably not. So perhaps the better thing to do is create an optional section of the development forum that has questions pertaining to development. Turn it off if you don't care and leave it on if you don't mind firing off an answer every once in a while.
Developers know answers to questions, not the people that post in the Q & A forums... you know the people with the damn questions.
So please, everybody, get off your high horse. This is an internet forum. It was created to be a resource for people that want to improve their phone. Get rid of this drama, it would result in a better community.
P.S. The savagedzenkernel crap that happened here is ridiculous. As well as a lot of the things going on this Evo development forum. A lot of favoritism as of late and it's kind of sad. If you don't get thanked in a long list of thanks are you really losing sleep? You developed something and are distributing it for free, you make it public. If you know it's in their work then you have the satisfaction of knowing they had to use your stuff to make their **** work. That's all the thanks you need, you want more don't make it public. If i stand outside of a store with free pretzels i don't expect everybody to say thank you when they take one.
Funniest part, the average end user could give a crap about who did what in a kernel or who tweaked what governor. They don't even care who you are, what your name is, or what your rep is. Most don't donate (I have donated various times to various roms myself) and I never USED to. Once i became more involved, i did.
So, please, everybody... strive for something better rather than the trash this site is slowly becoming. Change starts with the individual.
Thanks for the time it took to read this,
Dave
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I get where you coming from and i agree, but you did set yourslef up to get trashed and kinda encourged the actions what you were complaining about to begin with.
Ya know, the same "this site is going to trash" comment has been made since I joined here 3 years ago. With every new phone and new rom the same comment gets made by people who want things to go the way they think it should. Its an internet forum and the beauty of it is you have thousands of people that all have a mind of they're own and individual opinions of how things should be done. Yeah some people get pissed because the same question gets asked over and over again and after answering it 50 times they finally have enough. How many people do you think actually read the "Read this before posting questions thread"? Id bet less then 10% of new users. Maybe it needs to be mandated before viewing any other forums to avoid back to back separate threads of "how do I flash a rom".
Isnt that what thread titles are for? So you know what your going to read before doing so? If you dont want to answer that question again then just skip the thread. The opposite end of that spectrum is if you dont like that someone is getting pissed for the same thing being asked over and over again then grab your little mouse wheel and spin that ***** once and guess what, that comment is gone. Hell theres even a feature to ignore someone, use it. Theres no need to complain either way about this. Its a forum, they all work the same way.
I know how you feel OP, I've seen many threads where people would post pages upon pages of: "YOU POSTED IN THE WRONG THREAD, RETARD!". They could just politely say. "Just to let you know, you posted this in the wrong section. For future posts like this, they would go in the Q&A." Then they could let the thread die. But I know some people just strive for drama on the internet.
And OP, if you really want to become a moderator of something. Playstation Home needs some good ones. I think I have seen more flamers and trolls on there than any internet forum I have ever been on. :x
As much as I agree with a lot of what the OP has said, I do however not agree with the tone and attitude used by the OP in the first post.
To stop any flaming which may result from this I have decided to close this thread.
I hope you understand
Rick
I'd like to start off by thanking XDA & their Dev's for all the hard work & great software they make available for all of us noob's out here.
Now what is wrong with the rest of you? I've been looking over a lot of posts on XDA's Epic section & you cannot find the answers to any issues, that I know have already been discussed, without haveing to read pages & pages & pages of whining, bickering, & just down right immature & unappropiate off topic comments. This is the only Forum I have really found to be flooded like this. Jokes are great, but this is rediculous. Neither Android Central or Bonsia seem to have this issue. Android Central is a very good group, but a lot of the software comes from XDA so I come here to research at the source.
Really Guy's!! These Dev's bust their butt's to bring us this stuff & give all the help that the rest of us need to make it work. You should not be so disrespectful of them & the XDA site in general.
OK I'll get off of my soap box now.....
Lol ya I agree this is the only place where you can make a joke about trolling and get flamed by a troll
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monke30butt said:
I'd like to start off by thanking XDA & their Dev's for all the hard work & great software they make available for all of us noob's out here.
Now what is wrong with the rest of you? I've been looking over a lot of posts on XDA's Epic section & you cannot find the answers to any issues, that I know have already been discussed, without haveing to read pages & pages & pages of whining, bickering, & just down right immature & unappropiate off topic comments. This is the only Forum I have really found to be flooded like this. Jokes are great, but this is rediculous. Neither Android Central or Bonsia seem to have this issue. Android Central is a very good group, but a lot of the software comes from XDA so I come here to research at the source.
Really Guy's!! These Dev's bust their butt's to bring us this stuff & give all the help that the rest of us need to make it work. You should not be so disrespectful of them & the XDA site in general.
OK I'll get off of my soap box now.....
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What issues are you having? I can help.
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What issues are you having? I can help.
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XD I think this one is outta your league bro, you can't change the user base. Its the ratio of regular users versus developers is my best guess, the Epic is very popular and by very different types of people. Plenty of personality clashes.
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I have to agree with the OP. I came to the epic from the moment and the transform. These forums are flooded with questions and requests in the development section, people requesting user specific roms from the rom developer in the rom development threads, the same questions being asked over and over, etc. When I developed for the transform, the rom I developed was built for me, the kernel I developed was built for me, if someone wanted it different, they had to research and do it themselves.
Answers simple. From what I've noticed a lot of epic owners are young on this board. That and there are nerds up here that seems to think they've a huge cack. They complain about rolling, but dont realize there flooding the forum with nonsense just as much as the noobs.
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Not to be fresh, but this topic has been discussed to death. If you're so worried about flooding the forum with repeated posts complaining about things, why are you doing just that? You could pm individuals and try to help them with ettiquite. I just don't think this kind of response will change things. There can be a mix of fun and tech. If a dev is offended, they've never had problems expressing so.
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The Root said:
Not to be fresh, but this topic has been discussed to death. If you're so worried about flooding the forum with repeated posts complaining about things, why are you doing just that? You could pm individuals and try to help them with ettiquite. I just don't think this kind of response will change things. There can be a mix of fun and tech. If a dev is offended, they've never had problems expressing so.
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This thread was a mix of a thank you to the devs themers and mods who put their time and effort to bring us everything they put out(lol) , along with a sidenote to all those trolling and dickering on the forums.
I didn't join to long ago, I'm 16 in highschool ,hah, but for the first couple of weeks I would just lurk around with no post t try and learn on my own before posting something already answered/irrelevent to the topic and such, and I've noticed these forums have just gone downhill since I've joined. There's a dev drain going on around here. I think what all the devs and themers mods really need is some gratefullness from us, their end users...
Then again that's just my 2 cents thrown in the mix. Have a good day everyone
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XD I think this one is outta your league bro, you can't change the user base
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Well said. I think that it comes from the Epic's user base, which, IMO, tends to be a bit more techie, a bit less social skilled, and a bit more easy to get into a huff.
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I'd like to start off by thanking XDA & their Dev's for all the hard work & great software they make available for all of us noob's out here.
Now what is wrong with the rest of you? I've been looking over a lot of posts on XDA's Epic section & you cannot find the answers to any issues, that I know have already been discussed, without haveing to read pages & pages & pages of whining, bickering, & just down right immature & unappropiate off topic comments. This is the only Forum I have really found to be flooded like this. Jokes are great, but this is rediculous. Neither Android Central or Bonsia seem to have this issue. Android Central is a very good group, but a lot of the software comes from XDA so I come here to research at the source.
Really Guy's!! These Dev's bust their butt's to bring us this stuff & give all the help that the rest of us need to make it work. You should not be so disrespectful of them & the XDA site in general.
OK I'll get off of my soap box now.....
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Its all comes down to moderating. If the moderators allow it to happen then there isn't much you can do. I know XDA being a very high volume traffic forum its hard to keep on top of the hundreds of posts each day here.
I do tip my hat to the devs and the ones that go out of their way to help others answer the questions but as far as the useless posts especially in ROM/Theme or Q & A threads its uncalled for and they should be removed if its off topic. It does get very aggravating trying to find information or stay on top of things when you have to read through post after post of wasted space.
This is just my two cents, I don't really have a problem with it but I do understand where the OP and others are coming from when trying to find answers and research things when your a noob or even a knowledgeable user.
Would it be worse if the Boost crowd roamed this forum?
I'm part of that boost crowd I guess...
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What issues are you having? I can help.
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No real issues, I was just researching Swiss Cheese to see if I wanted to switch from SRF 1.1.1 (the FM radio caught my eye), just trying to see the pro's & con's. Many thanks for the offer though.....
ac16313 said:
This thread was a mix of a thank you to the devs themers and mods who put their time and effort to bring us everything they put out(lol) , along with a sidenote to all those trolling and dickering on the forums.
I didn't join to long ago, I'm 16 in highschool ,hah, but for the first couple of weeks I would just lurk around with no post t try and learn on my own before posting something already answered/irrelevent to the topic and such, and I've noticed these forums have just gone downhill since I've joined. There's a dev drain going on around here. I think what all the devs and themers mods really need is some gratefullness from us, their end users...
Then again that's just my 2 cents thrown in the mix. Have a good day everyone
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Very well said, I am very impressed.
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I do tip my hat to the devs and the ones that go out of their way to help others answer the questions but as far as the useless posts especially in ROM/Theme or Q & A threads its uncalled for and they should be removed if its off topic. It does get very aggravating trying to find information or stay on top of things when you have to read through post after post of wasted space.
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Absolutely right!!!
I was just venting. I've been on AC since Jan & here since Feb, have never posted here before just looked around & did my research, just wanted to voice my opinion, that's all......
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I'm part of that boost crowd I guess...
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WHERE U AT DAWG?!
God I miss those stupid commercials.
Nothing useful to add other than this forum has a bunch of very different personalities on it as was mentioned earlier, that and a very large number of them are very young/immature.... which amplifies the problem. Combine that with a product that has limited rom support/lacking sources etc compared to more popular phones that have high level development because of full sources and/or higher popularity... you get a whole lot of butthurt and entitlement issues from the peanut gallery.
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WHERE U AT DAWG?!
God I miss those stupid commercials.
Nothing useful to add other than this forum has a bunch of very different personalities on it as was mentioned earlier, that and a very large number of them are very young/immature.... which amplifies the problem. Combine that with a product that has limited rom support/lacking sources etc compared to more popular phones that have high level development because of full sources and/or higher popularity... you get a whole lot of butthurt and entitlement issues from the peanut gallery.
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OMG
I Heard it in my head -_-
i hated those commercials
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OMG
I Heard it in my head -_-
i hated those commercials
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BLEEPBLORP WHERE YOU AT?
I got a kick out of this bit too, several years later:
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I personally think that most issues come from people asking question about issues that come with the rom they're running that was mostly likely answered.To solve this issue with constant questioning of How to fix this and that I think someone who flashed a lot of roms and know a lot aout the epic should make a thread telling how to fix certain issues relating to any rom in particular. For example say that a rom keep having force closes, most likely the reason for these force closes are caused by a bad flash, so the thread would say "for multiply forces to be solve do a clean wipe ( wipe everything 3x) and reflash Rom." I chose this example because most issues people go through are multiply force closes when flashing new Roms.
The reason a lot of questions are left unanswered is because 90% of the time they have been answered already in about 10 different threads or posts. We get an ass-ton of repeat questions. I understand not everybody wants to sift through lots of unwanted clutter, but we do have a search feature for a reason.
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The reason a lot of questions are left unanswered is because 90% of the time they have been answered already in about 10 different threads or posts. We get an ass-ton of repeat questions. I understand not everybody wants to sift through lots of unwanted clutter, but we do have a search feature for a reason.
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Search doesn't help users find what they're searching for
djbacon06 said:
The reason a lot of questions are left unanswered is because 90% of the time they have been answered already in about 10 different threads or posts. We get an ass-ton of repeat questions. I understand not everybody wants to sift through lots of unwanted clutter, but we do have a search feature for a reason.
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Too True!!!
What is going on with xda nowadays? I don't know the story but it seems like the devs are fighting amongst each other and half of the comments being posted are negative. For God's sake people, this is still the greatest site for people to find fixes modifications for our phones but I for one think twice now before I post a question or comment on here because I don't want to deal with the trolling or flaming that may come from it. I have gotten a lot of help for my evo from some of the great members here and just don't want any newcomers to be put off after reading a few post. I think we should all just chalk it up to the heat and try to stay positive and helpful. With that said, it is only my two cents. Now its time to go to work in a steel warehouse in 101 degree weather. BOO!
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What is going on with xda nowadays? I don't know the story but it seems like the devs are fighting amongst each other and half of the comments being posted are negative. For God's sake people, this is still the greatest site for people to find fixes modifications for our phones but I for one think twice now before I post a question or comment on here because I don't want to deal with the trolling or flaming that may come from it. I have gotten a lot of help for my evo from some of the great members here and just don't want any newcomers to be put off after reading a few post. I think we should all just chalk it up to the heat and try to stay positive and helpful. With that said, it is only my two cents. Now its time to go to work in a steel warehouse in 101 degree weather. BOO!
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I actually agree with this, everyone needs to take a step back and look at the bigger picture. I actually think it would be a good thing to have XDA down for a couple days, so people would be really grateful for when it came back!!!
The reason is that XDA has become so "famous" that people who have no business working on their phones themselves are all over this thing. I do rooting and rom service here for hire and almost all of the people who come to me started out on XDA - most of those ended up with issues they couldn't resolve, the others were smart enough to realize they were in over their heads. Point being, all those kids who troll and flame the forums elsewhere are now here. That's my take anyway.
XDA needs stricter forum policies and suspend accounts of users who post such negative comments that they offend other users and provoke such behavior from others. People need to learn to have respect for others and also hold their tongues. Some people can't resist the urge to "put others in their place" so-to-speak and that's totally unnecessary. Thos who make such comments should be given only ONE warning then account suspension. Once people see that XDA has no tollerance for that kind of behavior, people will think twice before being so hateful to others in the forums. That will solve it.
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The reason is that XDA has become so "famous" that people who have no business working on their phones themselves are all over this thing. I do rooting and rom service here for hire and almost all of the people who come to me started out on XDA - most of those ended up with issues they couldn't resolve, the others were smart enough to realize they were in over their heads. Point being, all those kids who troll and flame the forums elsewhere are now here. That's my take anyway.
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Agreed. I think there is a lot of new people here who just don't understand what these devs do. They act like they deserve something for flashing these devs' rom. These guys put in a ton of work and some people act like they should get paid to run it on their phone. It's a shame really.
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Agreed. I think there is a lot of new people here who just don't understand what these devs do. They act like they deserve something for flashing these devs' rom. These guys put in a ton of work and some people act like they should get paid to run it on their phone. It's a shame really.
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I have to agree with this statement . I even tried to help resolve a problem one member was having in one thread and I was more or less blasted with some off the wall comment regarding windows on a computer . I sat there and thought about responding but didnt . I only knew it would cause it to continue further so I let it be . So yes I agree with most of what is being said in this thread . Granted I'm not a dev and have alittle theming ability but I try to help someone when I see them in trouble and they are trying to understand . Only since I was in their place at one time and was totally clueless . Yes its easy to scream go read , but sometimes doing the actual process itself is what teaches an individual . The devs on here do awesome work , all have their strengths and all have their different takes on a Rom and how it should work . In lack of better terms its their creations , they are allowed to take as long as they feel they should for it to be up to their standards or expectations . Not the individual flashing the rom . I swear I laugh everytime I hear "Whats the eta on release?" Um this isnt HTC and this isnt Sprint . You want a release date ask sprint or HTC when they gonna offer software upgrades .
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XDA needs stricter forum policies and suspend accounts of users who post such negative comments that they offend other users and provoke such behavior from others.
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i agree. i barely post because of this
This place is actually a wealth of knowledge but it is easier to find what you want other places 9 out of 10 times just due to trolls and flamers. There will be a 50 + post thread and only 5 decent posts in the entire thread because the rest of the posts are trolls or hot linked picture to flame some one.
No one wants to wade through that garbage to find an answer so they look elsewhere.
I generally find what I want and help myself to avoid the issues that a lot of members here cause. Do away with the issues, trolls, BS and this site could be the one stop shop for hand held devices. But until then there will be mainly people registering just to gain access to a download or link.
Just my 2cents.
I am not sure what is so hard about reading though. The hero is my first phone that I even thought about modding. I got it in march of last year, opened my account here in June and if you notice, I only have 30 or 40 posts total (I think the first one wasn't until about 4 months ago). For the most part this was because any time I had a question, I just used the search function. If an xda search doesn't answer my question, and a google search doesn't answer my question, THEN I ask. I am sure that most of those here who hold the knowledge would agree that they don't have a problem with the lack of knowledge, but the lack of resourcefulness.
Trust me, i am just a peon when it comes to this stuff, I don't know much. I only wish I had the time it would take to become an expert on building apps and roms, etc. but I don't. However, even I get annoyed when I am searching for an answer in a thread and the same question is asked (and answered) 4 times in the span of 2 pages.
I agree that those responding could use a little more tact sometimes... However, plainly asking someone to read for themselves is not rude, it is teaching reliance on oneself. If more people were a little more self reliant I am sure that this place would be far more efficient (and welcoming).
I, for one, thank the dev community for keeping my Hero running, I don't have an upgrade until January so it will have to do for a while longer.
Edit: I feel a little embarassed, I am in here because my wife as an Evo and obviously I would be the one to support it... Anyway, if y'all are wondering why some Hero owning, absent-minded poster is in here acting all righteous, that would be the reason, I forgot I wasn't in the Hero forums. I still believe my post to be valid, but you may take it as you want.
They should have a dislike button and members who had only had their account for six months are able to have their comments disappear with a set number of dislikes and those who had it longer cannot have their comments blocked, my 3 cents
I remember when this all happened 3 years ago in the touch and diamond forums between a chef's I'll leave nameless...It ended with a damn good chef getting banned. All that started over a program that was written and another chef tweaked the "hell" out of it making it a success, but creating a world of controversial bickering...It follows all forums once they begin to blow up as The Evo did!
I just get annoyed with seeing threads in the Dev section get overtaken with pages of 'arguments' or the like. Or complaints about devs and money or whatever trendy bull**** is happening. That's all. I'm of the type that feels the need to read more pages than not in a thread, so when I sit through 5 pages of total sh!t I almost want to slam my head through the monitor.
In terms of the General and Questions section, people posting pictures and the like are harmless, in my opinion. Most threads asking questions in the Gen / Q&A get by with little to no issue. Sometimes a thread deserves to get derailed.
ItsLasher said:
This place is actually a wealth of knowledge but it is easier to find what you want other places 9 out of 10 times just due to trolls and flamers. There will be a 50 + post thread and only 5 decent posts in the entire thread because the rest of the posts are trolls or hot linked picture to flame some one.
No one wants to wade through that garbage to find an answer so they look elsewhere.
I generally find what I want and help myself to avoid the issues that a lot of members here cause. Do away with the issues, trolls, BS and this site could be the one stop shop for hand held devices. But until then there will be mainly people registering just to gain access to a download or link.
Just my 2cents.
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You don't have to register to even access the download link. That eliminates that theory. I do highly agree with most of the things being said here though.
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The reason is that XDA has become so "famous" that people who have no business working on their phones themselves are all over this thing. I do rooting and rom service here for hire and almost all of the people who come to me started out on XDA - most of those ended up with issues they couldn't resolve, the others were smart enough to realize they were in over their heads. Point being, all those kids who troll and flame the forums elsewhere are now here. That's my take anyway.
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Agreed. The smartphone boom is bringing a lot of people with no patience and no respect. They want their phones fast, and they want it done now, for free.
tx_dbs_tx said:
XDA needs stricter forum policies and suspend accounts of users who post such negative comments that they offend other users and provoke such behavior from others. People need to learn to have respect for others and also hold their tongues. Some people can't resist the urge to "put others in their place" so-to-speak and that's totally unnecessary. Thos who make such comments should be given only ONE warning then account suspension. Once people see that XDA has no tollerance for that kind of behavior, people will think twice before being so hateful to others in the forums. That will solve it.
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This should go for noobs who post in the wrong section and creating threads before searching. 1 warning end suspension so we don't have to tolerate such noobish behavior.
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I find the mods to be very friendly and helpful. Someone or something you don't like, send them a PM and have it moved/deleted/etc. I've always been met with a thanks when sending in a PM to have a thread moved.
toastcfh, josefcrist, and rolfd are EVO 4G moderators.
I've seen the ends of the internet.
This is what happens when popularity hits something. It happens to everything. This is the way of things. Even you guys complaining about it.
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SilverZero said:
Agreed. The smartphone boom is bringing a lot of people with no patience and no respect. They want their phones fast, and they want it done now, for free.
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Couldn't agree more. People are just too lazy to search. If the XDA search option does not work, use the damn Google option. It always works.
Check out the EVO 3d general, its all trolling and bashing, and a small handful of informative threads.
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I've seen the ends of the internet.
This is what happens when popularity hits something. It happens to everything. This is the way of things. Even you guys complaining about it.
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The internet is coming! It's still very much alive! And evil!
I do agree, though. And complaining about it over and over, as we see happen, won't change it. I do agree that it gets tiresome seeing it in the 'important' threads though. But talking about it really doesn't change much.
Some of you know me, some don't. I'm more active trough PM then trough posting. But this is something that is bother me for a while and I think a lot of us.
And it can't be done trough PM, believe me, i have tried....
We all (if we are fair) know that the x10 is old mobile. And the most of us don't use a mobile longer than 2 years. So why o why read I so many post of people that are complaining about a update from a dev. Let them move on and give new dev's a chance
My personal top 3 irritations!!!!!
1) if you can't do it yourself, be grateful for everything they do for us and don't complain!!!
2) if we (the users) get a new mobile, how many people still stick to the x10 treads? So why expect a lot of people that the dev's must stick to the X10 forum and development further!!!
3) if a dev don't post for a while, don't post non related post in a DEVELOPMENT TREAD and complain about a update!!!
I have talk with a lot of members trough a personal message and told them about the post they have placed. But I think its a neverending story.
I think when the Mods are more harsher and give quicker a warning and ban people, then maybe people think twice what they post. I know that the mods help xda in their spare time and do all they can. But when you make a couple statements, the word get spread and maybe maybe this will work!
thanks for listening to my complaint
Even though i bought a Galaxy Note, i still read the first page of the General/Dev/Q&A section of the X10 forum daily.
You are right about people complaining to developers for updates, but that's just the way it is. It doesn't have to disturb you, or anyone. Most people ignore these types of begging posts anyway.
My experience in forums showed that having strict moderation won't do a thing. It will only lead to more drama. I know you feel you have to do something about this, but believe me its better if you relax and don't do anything at all. The mods know their job and doing the best they can. Talking to individuals via PM's and trying to explain why they shouldn't do this and that is not only time consuming, but as you can see, it lead you being frustrated enough to start this thread.
This thread will be read by (lets say) 1000, will be replied by 10-20, some may agree, some may not. It then will crawl it's way on the bottom of the page until a similar thread pops up. (There, just saved you some time )
Bottom line is, it's the interwebz. Don't get too attached.
But he is right though
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RANT AHEAD!
Unfortunately, you are right. People feel its a right they possess to get the developer to work non stop for them. Things in the x10 forums are still relatively mild though... In the atrix forum, the CM7 thread had to be closed for a period of time due to people complaining and demanding for fixes. And the "thx" posts. Here's a classic example
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all i want to know when moto atrix is getting ics.i also have sgs captivate and it is running on ics port and woking very well.so i also want to have ics on this phone also.pls do it quickly
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I like the x10 forums, things are usually more peaceful and people more helpful here.
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RANT AHEAD!
I like the x10 forums, things are usually more peaceful and people more helpful here.
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lol, before this thread gets closed i would love to point out that we have had our moments here, we can mix it with the big boys
I have given up with my classic posts of
1. use search next time
2. rule number 1 is not to ask for an eta
3. read the OP
4. why dont you make a backup and try it yourself
its just not worth the ware and tear of my keyboard to make them anymore....
but, we were all noobs once, a bit of tolerance is should be given
im totally agree with you,but hey,you cant fight fire with fire,that just leads to your "never ending story"
Hi,
This is my defense, take this thread in the X10 forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356580
I have just counted 93 posts deleted by moderators and with the warnings posted, about a dozen took vacations for ignoring the developer and moderators warning of being a Dev only thread. Just because you do not see warnings posted everywhere does not mean nothing is being done, most problems can be sorted out using the new infraction system, we use that all the time now, it is easy to use and straight to the point.
This type of thread cleaning and response is happening all the time, reported posts are dealt with much faster and if anybody needs banning, senior mods are available on gtalk to sort it out immediately.
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Hi,
This is my defense, take this thread in the X10 forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356580
I have just counted 93 posts deleted by moderators and with the warnings posted, about a dozen took vacations for ignoring the developer and moderators warning of being a Dev only thread. Just because you do not see warnings posted everywhere does not mean nothing is being done, most problems can be sorted out using the new infraction system, we use that all the time now, it is easy to use and straight to the point.
This type of thread cleaning and response is happening all the time, reported posts are dealt with much faster and if anybody needs banning, senior mods are available on gtalk to sort it out immediately.
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Couldnt have said it better myself good man, just cause we dont get them all doesn't mean we arent trying. and according to some members here im a very harsh mod. however i do what i have to
Cool story bro
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Couldnt have said it better myself good man, just cause we dont get them all doesn't mean we arent trying. and according to some members here im a very harsh mod. however i do what i have to
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You harsh, Nah. (I do however get the feeling it was you that closed my first thread posted here.) But having an Avatar that is a Happy Face , with a "Heidelberg Scar" doesn't really convoy a feeling of warm, fuzzy comfort to people. More like good mod / bad mod and Colossus= good mod; he even warns people in a very nice polite way. But temporarily freezing threads seems to be doing a great job of allowing the tensions to diffuse. Kudos for that.
tal333
-PiLoT- said:
Couldnt have said it better myself good man, just cause we dont get them all doesn't mean we arent trying. and according to some members here im a very harsh mod. however i do what i have to
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I actually don't think you're a harsh mod at all...
just blunt and to the point.
Also hilarious, even when it is aimed at me lol
pilot is harsh..;lol////
i feel like a virgin untill i have my first infraction...so pilot...give it me hard!
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pilot is harsh..;lol////
i feel like a virgin untill i have my first infraction...so pilot...give it me hard!
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he is going to pop your infraction cherry
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he is going to pop your infraction cherry
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bet he doesnt
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no balls
hopefully he'll be gentle
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hopefully he'll be gentle
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not like last time....
I didn't walk right for a week
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I didn't walk right for a week
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When i said give it to me i didnt mean that!!!!
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when I got my first infraction, I couldn't walk right because.... I was so upset so I wasn't paying attention to where I was going?
What did you guys think I meant? geez