Sunshine 3 S-OFF released
Installed , passed tests and probably it will s-off but 25 $ no thanks
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drummer1839 said:
Installed , passed tests and probably it will s-off but 25 $ no thanks
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drummer1839 said:
Installed , passed tests and probably it will s-off but 25 $ no thanks
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100% agreed.
s-off
Does not s-off, do not know why!
tirkius said:
Does not s-off, do not know why!
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well, it says you have to relock first. did you?
I Blocked 710c, taken root. I do not know what else I should do?
would u take your car in for a tune up and expect it to be done for free,,no did,t think so
bygrave said:
would u take your car in for a tune up and expect it to be done for free,,no did,t think so
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This comparison is so....just false.
A tune up for a car worth thousands of dollars is very very clearly different then a piece of software for a phone.
maybe,,we all have different views,,in my case ill just glad that i can start 2 work on some themes and bootspashes and other bits and peaces,, the trouble is its the onlyway 2 gain tryed many other ways on the m8 ,,not possible at all..
It doesn't seem right to me that one spends hundreds and hundreds of hours learning to work with these phones by working and learning from others who are not charging for their help, and then when it's his turn to help and teach others, he decides he is going to charge for it. I know that jcase and others are good people doing good work and if I truly need something, I'll pay for it. I'm just having a little problem with this new concept. I like the idea of learning new ideas for free from those who want to help, and then passing it on with newer ideas for free.
25$ Thanks.
Maybe 2-3$
ahbecan said:
25$ Thanks.
Maybe 2-3$
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No $25 is a okay price, think of it. Developers have to risk bricking their devices to achieve s-off for a HTC community. And all devices are different to. Achieving s-off .. and who knows they could of bricked a few desire 816's in the process... pluses your paying them for their hard work. If you think you can do it then take a crack at it. Or just stay s-on.
xXminiWHOOPERxX said:
No $25 is a okay price, think of it. Developers have to risk bricking their devices to achieve s-off for a HTC community. And all devices are different to. Achieving s-off .. and who knows they could of bricked a few desire 816's in the process... pluses your paying them for their hard work. If you think you can do it then take a crack at it. Or just stay s-on.
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It's not to say that for the work put into it doesn't justify the $25 price. But what it offers doesn't. Especially considering previous S-OFF methods, that all had the same risk to develop, have been free.
I have a couple of questions if someone could help....
1. Has anybody tried Sunshine 3 on Virgin Mobile Desire 816? Did it work?
2. With the impending update for Android 5.0, if I use this and update, will the update put me back to S-ON and kill my root?
3. If the update kills my root, is re-rooting the same process. Sorry a little new to android modding. Thanks in advance.
Tommydorns said:
I have a couple of questions if someone could help....
1. Has anybody tried Sunshine 3 on Virgin Mobile Desire 816? Did it work?
2. With the impending update for Android 5.0, if I use this and update, will the update put me back to S-ON and kill my root?
3. If the update kills my root, is re-rooting the same process. Sorry a little new to android modding. Thanks in advance.
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It will work on the Virgin Mobile variant, and S-OFF is permanant.
tirkius said:
Does not s-off, do not know why!
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I get the same.do you have to unroot and flash stock recovery before relocking? Or just relock?thanks
Tommydorns said:
I have a couple of questions if someone could help....
1. Has anybody tried Sunshine 3 on Virgin Mobile Desire 816? Did it work?
2. With the impending update for Android 5.0, if I use this and update, will the update put me back to S-ON and kill my root?
3. If the update kills my root, is re-rooting the same process. Sorry a little new to android modding. Thanks in advance.
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1) yes
2) s-off will stay
3) just boot recovery and flash supersu
FoxyDrew said:
It's not to say that for the work put into it doesn't justify the $25 price. But what it offers doesn't. Especially considering previous S-OFF methods, that all had the same risk to develop, have been free.
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This took more effort and costs than previous tools. This tool supports way more devices/firmwares than past tools. Each new iteration of android is more secure, the R&D time and costs is thus increased. We do nothing to prevent you or anyone else from developing a similar tool, eating the costs of R&D and giving away for free. Alternatively, you can personally finance this operation, and we can re-release SunShine for free. Let me know if you are capable and willing to do that, as I'm willing to make arrangements and accept that.
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It doesn't seem right to me that one spends hundreds and hundreds of hours learning to work with these phones by working and learning from others who are not charging for their help, and then when it's his turn to help and teach others, he decides he is going to charge for it. I know that jcase and others are good people doing good work and if I truly need something, I'll pay for it. I'm just having a little problem with this new concept. I like the idea of learning new ideas for free from those who want to help, and then passing it on with newer ideas for free.
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Most of my "learning" was done by myself. No one else paid for my educational needs, no one else paid for the $1000s in tools used to do this. No one else paid for the well over 30 phones purchased to get SunShine working properly. We do nothing to prevent you or anyone else from developing a similar tool, eating the costs of R&D and giving away for free. Alternatively, you can personally finance this operation, and we can re-release SunShine for free. Let me know if you are capable and willing to do that, as I'm willing to make arrangements and accept that.
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This comparison is so....just false.
A tune up for a car worth thousands of dollars is very very clearly different then a piece of software for a phone.
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Your right, I've invested more money in buying phones for security research than I did on my new truck.
tirkius said:
Does not s-off, do not know why!
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It tells you why, you need to relock your bootloader. SunShine needs a locked bootloader to work on QCom s400 devices.
jcase said:
1) yes
2) s-off will stay
3) just boot recovery and flash supersu
This took more effort and costs than previous tools. This tool supports way more devices/firmwares than past tools. Each new iteration of android is more secure, the R&D time and costs is thus increased. We do nothing to prevent you or anyone else from developing a similar tool, eating the costs of R&D and giving away for free. Alternatively, you can personally finance this operation, and we can re-release SunShine for free. Let me know if you are capable and willing to do that, as I'm willing to make arrangements and accept that.
Most of my "learning" was done by myself. No one else paid for my educational needs, no one else paid for the $1000s in tools used to do this. No one else paid for the well over 30 phones purchased to get SunShine working properly. We do nothing to prevent you or anyone else from developing a similar tool, eating the costs of R&D and giving away for free. Alternatively, you can personally finance this operation, and we can re-release SunShine for free. Let me know if you are capable and willing to do that, as I'm willing to make arrangements and accept that.
Your right, I've invested more money in buying phones for security research than I did on my new truck.
It tells you why, you need to relock your bootloader. SunShine needs a locked bootloader to work on QCom s400 devices.
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Just S-offed with out a hitch. Thanks!
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Just S-offed with out a hitch. Thanks!
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Very welcome, thank you
Related
A lot of devs here doing stuff for free, so why not get paid for it?
I need a simple apk file that will work cross platform (different android phones, as many as possible), determine the phone model, and try to root it. It shouldn't install any super user apk, or anything. Just the su file. After the phone is rooted, it should simple reboot.
70-80% of this code is available publicly.
If you are interested in taking the job, pm me and we can talk over the price
You should try to make your intentions seem... oh, I don't know... less malicious.
how is rooting a phone malicious?
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f28/instant-root-apk-25275/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743289
man, check out all those malicous rooting programs. Not to mention there are like 5-6 instant root programs on the market as well.
Here is an open source rooting method that takes care of about 20+ phones. only ones that it is not able to root are NAND locked phones.
https://github.com/shakalaca/UniversalAndroot
All I need is that code to be implemented. Checks if the phone is on the whitelist, and then roots it.
For nand locked phones, well you would have to write the code, since there is no open sourced version of unrevoked.
So, how does this pay us? We charge anywhere between 250-900 / hour depending on number of developers and project.
lol 250$ per hour for java development? no thanks, i can hire devs cheaper in asm and ring0 work then that. thanks for the laugh tho.
If you're going to laugh at $250 an hour, then just program it yourself...it's easy
Granted, $250 to almost $1,000 AN HOUR is a bit up there. LOL. Would love to see what a developer does at his place in a 8 hour day and get charged $2,000 to $8,000 Dude must drink 10 5-hour energy drinks and types 300 wpm!
numberoneoppa said:
You should try to make your intentions seem... oh, I don't know... less malicious.
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Looks like trying to rent a student for 10$/hour to hide your wills to take control of someone phone.
Last-Chance said:
how is rooting a phone malicious?
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Have you ever considered the use of superuser ? prevent anyone hiding commands on the system ...
wait... what?
You want someone to write an app that literally does EXACTLY what universal androot does and you want them to use the universal androot source code to do it?
just... just think that through for a moment.
As you know we have root access, and believe the root exploits will work on the production devices.
However I do not believe we will have perm root on the production devices.
We are seeking volunteers willing to assist, by testing a method once the device is released. A risk of bricking exists, and the volunteer will assume 100% of that risk.
Requirements:
1) Will be getting a thunderbolt on or shortly after release
2) Ability to follow directions
3) Basic computer knowledge (ability to use command line would be nice)
4) Have the sdk installed, or be willing to install it
5) Understand the risk of volunteering completely. (ie know bricked phones no longer work)
jcase said:
As you know we have root access, and believe the root exploits will work on the production devices.
However I do not believe we will have perm root on the production devices.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the other post, you show a photo with SHIP S-OFF at the SPL level... so is this not permanent?
Perhaps I am confused then by what you mean 'perm root' in this case. Do you mean a engineering SPL?
reukiodo said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the other post, you show a photo with SHIP S-OFF at the SPL level... so is this not permanent?
Perhaps I am confused then by what you mean 'perm root' in this case. Do you mean a engineering SPL?
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If you read that whole post, you will understand its a pre production device (see the lack of verizon branding?). That is why we had s-off. Production models will not likely have it.
I currently have a touch pro 2 with nand loading xdandroid.
I would be happy to test though, I would rather not be the first brick. LOL
But in the sake of root, I might be willing to risk it. Considering the success rate.... I would say the risk would be high I am sure many precautions will be taken to prevent a brick.
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I currently have a touch pro 2 with nand loading xdandroid.
I would be happy to test though, I would rather not be the first brick. LOL
But in the sake of root, I might be willing to risk it. Considering the success rate.... I would say the risk would be high I am sure many precautions will be taken to prevent a brick.
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With current ideas, risk is near nothing for one. Other one is slim. (in my opinions)
I am sure once the device is in hand tests will be done prior to flashing.
HTC phones are pretty good about not permanently bricking.
I will be trying it out.
I just have a quick question as I am coming from having a D1. How easy are HTC phone's rooting compared to the D1? I used the super one click root, I have to research HTC's methods now.
rotorocker said:
I just have a quick question as I am coming from having a D1. How easy are HTC phone's rooting compared to the D1? I used the super one click root, I have to research HTC's methods now.
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D1 root was rather easy, so was HTC back then. No longer is this the case.
I'm still 50/50 on getting it right when it comes out since I'll be paying full retail and we don't have a confirmed price yet. But otherwise, I meet all of the criteria. I actually tested the rage exploit on the Droid 2 first and had to write up the adb commands for others, so I'm comfortable working my way through some hackery.
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I'm still 50/50 on getting it right when it comes out since I'll be paying full retail and we don't have a confirmed price yet. But otherwise, I meet all of the criteria. I actually tested the rage exploit on the Droid 2 first and had to write up the adb commands for others, so I'm comfortable working my way through some hackery.
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full retail if its like what BB posted ($750) then its cheaper to cancel your current contract and buy it with a new 2 year for $250
so thats 250+350=600
If you have a current contract
I will be picking a tb up as soon as they say go at a verisimilitude store and no matter what phone I have I can never go more than a day or two with out root. I need the ability to have freedom even if I can't change anything. Just the thought of having it keeps me going. As for knowledge I had the droid first and did everything you could to it and now I am running the fascinate on 2.2.1 that samsung and verizon still haven't released, so I am not the best but learn as I go.
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I'll give this a shot.
since the RUU's are already out, it should be fairly easy to get correct most problems right?
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full retail if its like what BB posted ($750) then its cheaper to cancel your current contract and buy it with a new 2 year for $250
so thats 250+350=600
If you have a current contract
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Yeah. It is cheaper, but then you are still stuck in contract... and one year down the road you will need to repeat the same cycle.
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Yeah. It is cheaper, but then you are still stuck in contract... and one year down the road you will need to repeat the same cycle.
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It's no big deal for me
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JCase I have a fascinate now, had a D1, and a DX. I'll be getting my thunderbolt the day of as i preordered at best buy. My twitter is Mike91908 I'm down. this is my first HTC device though, but i have all the know-hows.
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JCase I have a fascinate now, had a D1, and a DX. I'll be getting my thunderbolt the day of as i preordered at best buy. My twitter is Mike91908 I'm down. this is my first HTC device though, but i have all the know-hows.
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cool beans, I think we got something good.
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cool beans, I think we got something good.
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Sounds good. if you need me, hit my twitter or gtalk mikeandjill919 and i can get on IRC.
Do you still need volunteers?
Count me in
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Not sure if this is allowed, so if not, moderators please close it. I HAD my Evo Shift 4G rooted then stupidly accepted an OTA update that undid it. Now I'm using a jailbroken iPhone 4S...and I'm not crazy about it. The downgrade and rooting process looks horrid and not something I really want to deal with...but I really need free wifi hotspotting. So, anyone who has done this a bunch of times want to earn a little $$? I could send my Shift plus money, let you root it, and send it back? Thoughts?
I'm sure there are numerous people on here that would be willing to take your money. But if you do a little searching you might run across some simple scripts that are really no harder a task then rooting froyo.
~Im here to duckhunt tickertape visions and pick apart the pixels~
I'm sure there are numerous people on here that would be willing to take your money. But if you do a little searching you might run across some simple scripts that are really no harder a task then rooting froyo.<br />
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we have no scripts for the newest ota
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oh that's right. Forgot about the ota that just got released. My bad. Strike that. Lol. At any rate people will still take your money I'm sure.
~Im here to duckhunt tickertape visions and pick apart the pixels~
Hopefully as a community someone will help you out. That's what this is supposed to be all about.
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Not sure if this is allowed, so if not, moderators please close it. I HAD my Evo Shift 4G rooted then stupidly accepted an OTA update that undid it. Now I'm using a jailbroken iPhone 4S...and I'm not crazy about it. The downgrade and rooting process looks horrid and not something I really want to deal with...but I really need free wifi hotspotting. So, anyone who has done this a bunch of times want to earn a little $$? I could send my Shift plus money, let you root it, and send it back? Thoughts?
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Really no need for this . As far as communities go, the Shift community is one of the best. I'm sure everyone here is more than willing to help you FREE OF CHARGE . We may bicker back and forth, but we still help one and another out. What HBOOT are you on? How long ago did you accept the OTA? The more info we have the easier it will be to assist you.
Andoid: 2.3.3
Sense: 2.1
Software Number: 2.76.651.6
Kernel: 2.6.35.10
Baseband: 1.08.00.0506
Build: 2.76.651.6 CL74499
Any more info needed? The phone is not activated right now, and I can ship with a pre-paid shipping label to return it...if anyone would be willing to help, that would be super appreciated. I love my shift but need it rooted before I can go back to it and eBay the iPhone.
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Andoid: 2.3.3
Sense: 2.1
Software Number: 2.76.651.6
Kernel: 2.6.35.10
Baseband: 1.08.00.0506
Build: 2.76.651.6 CL74499
Any more info needed? The phone is not activated right now, and I can ship with a pre-paid shipping label to return it...if anyone would be willing to help, that would be super appreciated. I love my shift but need it rooted before I can go back to it and eBay the iPhone.
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Well I don't know if you've thought about doing it yourself. But before you ship it off. You may want to take a look at THIS thread. Then decide if your comfortable enough to do it yourself .
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Andoid: 2.3.3
Sense: 2.1
Software Number: 2.76.651.6
Kernel: 2.6.35.10
Baseband: 1.08.00.0506
Build: 2.76.651.6 CL74499
Any more info needed? The phone is not activated right now, and I can ship with a pre-paid shipping label to return it...if anyone would be willing to help, that would be super appreciated. I love my shift but need it rooted before I can go back to it and eBay the iPhone.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357157
Go to android 2.3 section, there is a donate to me button if you are feeling generous.
Yup...not comfortable with all that.
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Yup...not comfortable with all that.
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I don't know if you've heard, but A method was just discovered on how to downgrade the bootloader so we can gain S-off and root. (Flash all those wonderful kernels, and ROM's ) - Take in mind this is for the EVO 3D
Now I am not vastly experienced at all, but this method for the EVO 3D required us to brick (yes I said BRICK) our device...intentionally to put it into a emmc_recover mode so we can force a new hboot through in Linux.
Now I guess what I am trying to say here is that, compared to the EVO 3D (and all kinds of other devices) the Shift is a baby gain root access on.
And I am not saying this to sound mean, but more of so you can save cash (unless your donating to developers ) DON'T pay someone. Read up,Look at video guides, Do it yourself. I know it sounds confusing/scary but it helps in gaining knowledge and it is honestly not that bad on the forefront.
/nice rant done
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I don't know if you've heard, but A method was just discovered on how to downgrade the bootloader so we can gain S-off and root. (Flash all those wonderful kernels, and ROM's ) - Take in mind this is for the EVO 3D
Now I am not vastly experienced at all, but this method for the EVO 3D required us to brick (yes I said BRICK) our device...intentionally to put it into a emmc_recover mode so we can force a new hboot through in Linux.
Now I guess what I am trying to say here is that, compared to the EVO 3D (and all kinds of other devices) the Shift is a baby gain root access on.
And I am not saying this to sound mean, but more of so you can save cash (unless your donating to developers ) DON'T pay someone. Read up,Look at video guides, Do it yourself. I know it sounds confusing/scary but it helps in gaining knowledge and it is honestly not that bad on the forefront.
/nice rant done
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Yeah mean I'll be happy to take your money, but it's really not rocket science. Maybe I'll re do the videos again.
I've been watching this one for a while, just in case
Here's my 2 pence, the community for this device is great. I've mentioned this before.
Anyone "could" come along and say they'd do it for you and just take the handset and the money. But no-one has. Fantastic.
The guide linked to above is your best choice in rooting. There is a video also.
If your not comfortable in doing this, then I'd just hold back and see if an "easier" method pops up. But there are no guarantees.
I completely agree with andy. Plus There's always the fact that Rooting the device yourself is just the start. Later on you may want to do other mods. It helps to have rooted the device yourself. You gain confidence in your abilities, and also learn some of the basic skills you will need later on when modding Android. Reading, asking questions, and gaining as much information as you can is one of the keys to becoming more comfortable with modding your device.
andyharney said:
I've been watching this one for a while, just in case
Here's my 2 pence, the community for this device is great. I've mentioned this before.
Anyone "could" come along and say they'd do it for you and just take the handset and the money. But no-one has. Fantastic.
The guide linked to above is your best choice in rooting. There is a video also.
If your not comfortable in doing this, then I'd just hold back and see if an "easier" method pops up. But there are no guarantees.
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I really love how everyone came together when that evil_devnull guy was on here trying to scam people for a batch root script that didn't even work well (before you became mod here). It was really lame.
VICODAN said:
I really love how everyone came together when that evil_devnull guy was on here trying to scam people for a batch root script that didn't even work well (before you became mod here). It was really lame.
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You should of been around in the EVO 3D forums whenever the bounty was announced to get s-off on the device .he just wanted the bounty and tried all the old methods everyone else had already tried .
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You should of been around in the EVO 3D forums whenever the bounty was announced to get s-off on the device .he just wanted the bounty and tried all the old methods everyone else had already tried .
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Hahaha that's hilarious. Who ended up figuring out s-off for 3vo?
Yeah, I was one of the one who "bought" the script. Boo!
stormchaser404 said:
Yeah, I was one of the one who "bought" the script. Boo!
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Damm man that sucks . So did you root yet?
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After the amount of effort put into the Tegra HTC One X to achieve S-OFF, it's great to see S-OFF for HTC One, however am I the only one who thinks that releasing two separate S-OFF methods which, I presume, use different exploits is an overkill?
The way I see it is HTC will update the firmware/bootloader soon enough, patching both exploits as they're both public. This means extra work needed to achieve S-OFF on newer firmwares.
It's a shame that the both teams didn't collaborate and keep one exploit as a backup for when first one gets patched to keep the S-OFF goodness lasting longer.
how do we even know it is two exploits discovered?
No one has specifically explained how either method works.
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lmao, this is quality trolling
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Lol. On a serious note what is wrong with two exploits? Just be happy that we have them and keep it moving ( to OP)
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One is firmware dependant (Moonshine) whilst Revone is to work regardless of firnware version.
barondebxl said:
Lol. On a serious note what is wrong with two exploits? Just be happy that we have them and keep it moving ( to OP)
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Simple, newer phones will be shipped with newer firmware with patched exploits. With both of them public, it means HTC can patch both and we're back into the cat and mouse game of exploit searching. There is no point in releasing two, potentially different, exploits which achieve the same thing.
lollylost100 said:
Simple, newer phones will be shipped with newer firmware with patched exploits. With both of them public, it means HTC can patch both and we're back into the cat and mouse game of exploit searching. There is no point in releasing two, potentially different, exploits which achieve the same thing.
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Ok so now that both have been released what do you want to do about it?
I'm sure HTC wanted us to find a s-off method and that they don't care
Remember htc is not apple
drakeymcmb said:
I'm sure HTC wanted us to find a s-off method and that they don't care
Remember htc is not apple
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I think they wouldn't even care specially now that they provide developer and Google editions. That gives flexibility on the consumer side.
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Why not have two methods, doesn't hurt anything.
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I'm sure HTC wanted us to find a s-off method and that they don't care
Remember htc is not apple
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True. They're becoming more developer friendly. That doesn't mean they WANT you to do it, but I highly doubt they will patch it. And it doesn't even matter if you're on a custom rom.
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I'm sure HTC wanted us to find a s-off method and that they don't care
Remember htc is not apple
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+1 on htc is not apple
only way HTC care's is if the carriers ***** about it.
clsA said:
+1 on htc is not apple
only way HTC care's is if the carriers ***** about it.
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Definitely this. HTC can't afford to lose carriers at this point.
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lollylost100 said:
After the amount of effort put into the Tegra HTC One X to achieve S-OFF, it's great to see S-OFF for HTC One, however am I the only one who thinks that releasing two separate S-OFF methods which, I presume, use different exploits is an overkill?
The way I see it is HTC will update the firmware/bootloader soon enough, patching both exploits as they're both public. This means extra work needed to achieve S-OFF on newer firmwares.
It's a shame that the both teams didn't collaborate and keep one exploit as a backup for when first one gets patched to keep the S-OFF goodness lasting longer.
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I have to disagree with you about the two ways. Until we have 1 way that works for both Windows and Linux then we need to ways. Right now one of the ways works on the phone itself or using CMD on a PC or Linux. The other way only works on Linux, I do not know how to use Linux nor do I really want to learn how. So I am forced to use Windows for everything. So like I said once we have a One way that works for everyone we need different ways to do it.
S-OFF in a Linux Live CD has been done before. Minimum learning curve required.
PS. HTC has plenty of reasons to patch S-OFF exploits:
1. It allows the device to return to Locked state, instead of Re-Locked
2. Has the ability to cause bricks
3. Allows for free SIM unlocks
4. Allows to bypass CID restrictions (branded FW)
5. Allows to change serial number/IMEI if you look hard enough
S-OFF is great for us, but for HTC it's just extra costs.
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I don't really see why anyone want any OTA or RUU to flash, the entire purpose of being rooted s-off and everything about this is....
TO USE A ROOTED STOCK ROM....... OR DEODEX ROM....
I think that says everything.... I chose the revone,,, because why in the world did moonshine wait to release it, I will not say my personal opinion what I think about that...
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I don't really see why anyone want any OTA or RUU to flash, the entire purpose of being rooted s-off and everything about this is....
TO USE A ROOTED STOCK ROM....... OR DEODEX ROM....
I think that says everything.... I chose the revone,,, because why in the world did moonshine wait to release it, I will not say my personal opinion what I think about that...
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There isnt a custom rom out there for the ONE that requires s-off..If custom rom is what YOU WANT then you only need root. However custom roms do not include all firmware from new ruus or OTA's. Being s-off allows you to get these upgrades without waiting on your device specific ruu. I dont think the majority wants it so they can stay stock to get OTA's. Its so they have a choice and can upgrade when they want to. :victory:
Please say your personal opinion about moonshine, your other comments are your personal opinion, why stop now? And what would moonshine have to gain by waiting to release? I'm sure they were perfecting the code..making things as easy as possible for me and YOU. originally Thumb drives weren't supported yet now they are. The thumb drive didnt write its own code to make that happen.. Do you think cracking HTCs security and writing a user friendly app that has little to no chance to harm your device is fast and easy? If so please show us how its done. IMO If you cant do it yourself, and you are not paying for it, it shouldn't matter how long it took to release.
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There isnt a custom rom out there for the ONE that requires s-off..If custom rom is what YOU WANT then you only need root. However custom roms do not include all firmware from new ruus or OTA's. Being s-off allows you to get these upgrades without waiting on your device specific ruu. I dont think the majority wants it so they can stay stock to get OTA's. Its so they have a choice and can upgrade when they want to. :victory:
Please say your personal opinion about moonshine, your other comments are your personal opinion, why stop now? And what would moonshine have to gain by waiting to release? I'm sure they were perfecting the code..making things as easy as possible for me and YOU. originally Thumb drives weren't supported yet now they are. The thumb drive didnt write its own code to make that happen.. Do you think cracking HTCs security and writing a user friendly app that has little to no chance to harm your device is fast and easy? If so please show us how its done. IMO If you cant do it yourself, and you are not paying for it, it shouldn't matter how long it took to release.
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If you noticed, I did not say anything negative, I didn't say my opionion. I did not thrash or flame moonshine. that is why I said I will keep my personal opionion to myself, I respect the developers, I don't develop or know the 1st thing about that.
so that being said, says all...
I say for people being rooted, get a stock rom, or firmwares and the developers release everything we need.
when someone installs ruu or otas. there hboots are changed, and then at one point or another u possibly wont be able to downgrade or something, that is why I say to stay away from RUU's... that is the only thing.
SO PLEASE, UNDERSTAND. I TOTALLY RESPECT MOONSHINE...:good: :silly:
For people with S-OFF, it won't matter if HBOOT is upgraded as long as the Radio flag is changed, then S-OFF will be permanent. Great for you!
But HTC will release updates with new HBOOTs and those will be shipped with newer devices. If they patch up the exploits, and I don't see why they won't, we'll be back to square one. Obviously it doesn't matter right now, but in the future I'm sure it will be an issue.
PS. There's even a new HBOOT on the 4.2.2 firmware and devices will soon start shipping with it.
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Deleted about half the posts for trolling or Off-Topic.
All that could have been usefully said about that topic is said obviously as the discussion drifted to the advantages of Linux....
Hello guys, I'm new to this anyway, but I've used many HTC devices for years. This time I ended up with the Verizon HTC 10 which I've just bought few days ago due to the price in Cambodia is cheap rather than spend over 500$ to buy the International Version. So I'm here to ask all of you in case you are facing the same problem like me by wanted to convert the Verizon HTC 10 to be the same as the original unlocked phone out there. The reasons why I wanted to convert my phone are:
-Weak Signal and barely reaches to 4G LTE here (I only can use 3G here most of the time)
-I can't use Wifi Hospot (It requires Verizon Sim)
-Some feathers are not allowed to use (I really hate it)
So far, I've done so many research with rooting, unlocked bootloader and s-off, but I couldn't finger it out how I can solve the problems the right way. I saw people said paying 25$ for S-OFF with sunshine app or sth and I was like what? why do I have to pay for that? I knew it's for the donation for those developers out there, but I rather save money to buy accessories instead or is there any solution to get s-off? Well, I'm so sicked right now! I really have no idea what to convert my verizon to work as the international version. I'm just blanked that's why I came up here trying to ask you guys if u can possibly help me to solve my problem using some technical workaround with computer
My phone is running Android Marshmallow 6.0.1, Software number = 1.85.605.8, Build number = 1.85.605.8 8.0_g CL774095
Thank you for spending your time reading my questions here!
Thanks in advance :good:
I love you guys here in XDA
There is a thread on converting your phone, but it involves Sunshine. That's the only way, I'm afraid. So if you don't want to spend $25. You are stuck
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sjpritch25 said:
There is a thread on converting your phone, but it involves Sunshine. That's the only way, I'm afraid. So if you don't want to spend $25. You are stuck
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Thank you so much bro maybe you are right! right now, without sunshine i'm stucked with the freaking rom from verizon hope more developers to come up with new solution to solve the S-OFF
Anyone knows how to get bootloader unlocked? probably without sunshine?
cheakimpor said:
Thank you so much bro maybe you are right! right now, without sunshine i'm stucked with the freaking rom from verizon hope more developers to come up with new solution to solve the S-OFF
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S-OFF is solved by true and trusted members. No one is going to spend their time and then release it for free...
Sunshine bro!!
andybones said:
S-OFF is solved by true and trusted members. No one is going to spend their time and then release it for free...
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True. The phones have gotten so much harder to exploit them earlier versions for sure. I saw the firewater team won some $ for the pixel unlock. Awesome.