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Lets Ask HTC for NexusOne SPL on Incredible

Hello everybidy as Froyo is just gona Release it will take ages for HTC to upgrade our Incredible and also we are missing on rooted OS.
The only solution to the date is asking HTC for Nexus One type SPL and which is perfectly as far as Legality and After Sale Service Issue is concerned as you Unlock SPL Warrenty is void.
Lets ask HTC to allot us new SPL like Nexus One which Support
Code:
fastboot oem unlock
so we then flash the .img file directly and Enjoy Incredible to the fullest
Ask HTC over
http://facebook.com/htc
and
http://twitter.com/htc
http://twitter.com/VerizonWireless

let us know how you make out with that...

jrebeiro said:
let us know how you make out with that...
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Don't be cynical, anything's possible..

See my Previous Efforts of the same
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3005712&postcount=9
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2931428&postcount=25
and Finally this one
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1266

They're not going to do this because it will cost them money when people brick their devices and then return or warranty them.

heavensblade23 said:
They're not going to do this because it will cost them money when people brick their devices and then return or warranty them.
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Not if they include a disclaimer voiding the warranty in the case of a complete brick.

.mak said:
Not if they include a disclaimer voiding the warranty in the case of a complete brick.
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You mean like the disclaimers in every custom rom thread, where people still manage to brick their phones, and then talk about taking them back to the store for a new one?
HTC doesn't even release legally-obligated kernel sources on time half the time, if you think they're going to go an extra step beyond that you're dreaming.

heavensblade23 said:
You mean like the disclaimers in every custom rom thread, where people still manage to brick their phones, and then talk about taking them back to the store for a new one?
HTC doesn't even release legally-obligated kernel sources on time half the time, if you think they're going to go an extra step beyond that you're dreaming.
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I believe they're talking about the disclaimer that you get when you unlock a nexus one. HTC will refuse to warranty most nexus ones if the bootloader is unlocked.... and thats the risk im willing to take

But you have to remember that Verizon will get say in that as well and they do not like people messing with their stuff. It's a long shot....
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Actually, I already have the cdma nexus one hboot. But it's useless to us until we can flash to start. The version is pretty far from the HTC one as well so it's useless in our attempts. Stay patient.

Not to be a total retard, but is Froyo just a codename for Flash integration, or is it like an entire OS upgrade for the Android? Why would you say it would be ages until the HTC Incredible gets updated?
Sorry if that's a dumb question.

dephtones said:
Not to be a total retard, but is Froyo just a codename for Flash integration, or is it like an entire OS upgrade for the Android? Why would you say it would be ages until the HTC Incredible gets updated?
Sorry if that's a dumb question.
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It's an entire upgrade for andriod, well from 2.1 to 2.2, but some good changes. HTC has to go through a ton of testing phases before releasing an upgrade so it usually takes them awhile and no question is a dumb question

I work for the mobile industry and have worked for the computer industry for years, and have never been one to believe the talk about obsolete devices soon after you buy them. It angers me that this incredible is my first Android and I can't root it like my friends who have the Droid and Nexus One, Dream, etc.
I'm almost tempted to take it back and get a diff android, but this damn phone is so cool.

Hey OP while were at it why dont we ask htc for a bigger screen too, heck maybe they can turn our phones into EVO's........ J/K

it will happen in time gotta patient

RLKirk said:
It's an entire upgrade for andriod, well from 2.1 to 2.2, but some good changes. HTC has to go through a ton of testing phases before releasing an upgrade so it usually takes them awhile and no question is a dumb question
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After getting used to how everyone acted on the G1 forums, you are my nominee for most helpful XDA user, simply by stating "no question is a dumb question "

dephtones said:
I work for the mobile industry and have worked for the computer industry for years, and have never been one to believe the talk about obsolete devices soon after you buy them. It angers me that this incredible is my first Android and I can't root it like my friends who have the Droid and Nexus One, Dream, etc.
I'm almost tempted to take it back and get a diff android, but this damn phone is so cool.
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Root will happen. As is, this phone is far from obsolete. 2.2 still needs to be released on an actual device before its mature enough for daily use. Trust me, I went to 2.1 way too early on my last device and it sucked. Then 2.1 devices came out and all of the sudden it was good enough for daily use.

Start Shouting at this Accounts for Incredible root
http://twitter.com/htc
http://twitter.com/VerizonWireless

There is no way verizon will ever help with the incredible root, it enables things that verizon want locked on the phone, such as tethering. I'm all for optimism, but lets not forget reality.

morkon said:
There is no way verizon will ever help with the incredible root, it enables things that verizon want locked on the phone, such as tethering. I'm all for optimism, but lets not forget reality.
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I agree. Not only does it enable things VZW disabled intentionally but it increases the chances for issues that can lead to unsatified customers and returns.
HTC probably wouldn't want to go against their customer who is VZW not us. We buy from VZW not HTC.
We just have to trust in our developer community and hope they are able to accomplish root in the near future. I believe every HTC Android device has been rooted in the past so why would the Incredible be any different.
I remember reading an artible about how the G1 would never be able to be upgraded to 1.6 and devs got that phone running 2.1 so I am hopeful

Skyraider has me thinking... dinc or x

Anyone else have the option to switch to the Droid X from the Incredible but because of Skyraider 2.5.2 vanilla you are having second thoughts? My logic was that a phone without Rom options may stop my incessant xda checking , but at the same time I'm not sure if I can live with motoblur. Also, I really want that big screen. Anyone fell like convincing me either way?
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The Moto X screen is the same resolution as the Dinc screen. That means that the same pixels are just blown up over that big screen. The Dinc screen is so crisp, the X, not so much. Stick with the Dinc.

Its not the same resolution, but close enough.

I bought the x the day it came out, sent it back a week later, and reactivated my Incredible. I just didn't care for the size of the X, or the physical buttons.

A good investment
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Stay dinc...we already have awesome devs and full root and nand
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In addition, the DInc will be the last great AMOLED phone before the coming age of the locked bootloader. Even DInc's in the near future will have locked bootloaders (after the official 2.2 OTA). I fear the age of Android ROM cooking is coming to an end. I'm tempted to go out and buy another DInc, before the OTA hits and then it's...game over... Unlocked DInc's will be worth their weight in gold. Yep, just might be a good time to invest in a couple more unlocked DIncs...
I never was an optimist...

Well done xda! In just 5 replies I believe you have me convinced. Perhaps I will still try the x though... you know what I am really thinking? Keep the small screen (and customization) of the dinc and wait for a Android tablet to fill my large screen needs.
Thanks again, I will cancel my x order on Monday?
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Naw...
Lexus One said:
In addition, the DInc will be the last great AMOLED phone before the coming age of the locked bootloader. Even DInc's in the near future will have locked bootloaders (after the official 2.2 OTA). I fear the age of Android ROM cooking is coming to an end. I'm tempted to go out and buy another DInc, before the OTA hits and then it's...game over... Unlocked DInc's will be worth their weight in gold. Yep, just might be a good time to invest in a couple more unlocked DIncs...
I never was an optimist...
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The cat and mouse game will continue. Nothing is unrootable. You can't give someone the keys and the lock and expect it not to get picked.

dhalem said:
The cat and mouse game will continue. Nothing is unrootable. You can't give someone the keys and the lock and expect it not to get picked.
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Rooting is a different process than flashing ROMs...or so I have read. But the only way a locked & digitally signed bootloader will get picked is with the appropriate key. And only Verizon has the key and will be able to update your ROMs. It's going to be a lot tougher now. Someone on the inside will have to leak the digital key. Not saying that this can't happen...but will it? Only time will tell...

Lexus One said:
Rooting is a different process than flashing ROMs...or so I have read. But the only way a locked & digitally signed bootloader will get picked is with the appropriate key. And only Verizon has the key and will be able to update your ROMs. It's going to be a lot tougher now. Someone on the inside will have to leak the digital key. Not saying that this can't happen...but will it? Only time will tell...
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Couldn't the new law on jailbreaking/rooting come into play here? It's now 100% legal so couldn't you go in and say (using vzw as an example any carrier will work) Verizon, I have this phone here I want rooted. Verizon then says ok we will give you access if you sign this saying you know and are willfully voiding your warranty. Or something like that. I just can't see how these scenarios or something similar won't happen with the new ruling
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Yodes said:
Couldn't the new law on jailbreaking/rooting come into play here? It's now 100% legal so couldn't you go in and say (using vzw as an example any carrier will work) Verizon, I have this phone here I want rooted. Verizon then says ok we will give you access if you sign this saying you know and are willfully voiding your warranty. Or something like that. I just can't see how these scenarios or something similar won't happen with the new ruling
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Its legal, but that doesn't mean they have to make it easy, and it sure doesn't mean that it doesnt void your warranty.

My brother-in-law has an X and I have a DINC. That phone is way to big and comparing them I feel mine works better "my opion". The only thing I like about the X is, it has a nice dash mount.

Earn $ by rooting my shift?

Not sure if this is allowed, so if not, moderators please close it. I HAD my Evo Shift 4G rooted then stupidly accepted an OTA update that undid it. Now I'm using a jailbroken iPhone 4S...and I'm not crazy about it. The downgrade and rooting process looks horrid and not something I really want to deal with...but I really need free wifi hotspotting. So, anyone who has done this a bunch of times want to earn a little $$? I could send my Shift plus money, let you root it, and send it back? Thoughts?

I'm sure there are numerous people on here that would be willing to take your money. But if you do a little searching you might run across some simple scripts that are really no harder a task then rooting froyo.
~Im here to duckhunt tickertape visions and pick apart the pixels~

I'm sure there are numerous people on here that would be willing to take your money. But if you do a little searching you might run across some simple scripts that are really no harder a task then rooting froyo.<br />
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~Im here to duckhunt tickertape visions and pick apart the pixels~
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we have no scripts for the newest ota
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oh that's right. Forgot about the ota that just got released. My bad. Strike that. Lol. At any rate people will still take your money I'm sure.
~Im here to duckhunt tickertape visions and pick apart the pixels~

Hopefully as a community someone will help you out. That's what this is supposed to be all about.
~Im here to duckhunt tickertape visions and pick apart the pixels~

stormchaser404 said:
Not sure if this is allowed, so if not, moderators please close it. I HAD my Evo Shift 4G rooted then stupidly accepted an OTA update that undid it. Now I'm using a jailbroken iPhone 4S...and I'm not crazy about it. The downgrade and rooting process looks horrid and not something I really want to deal with...but I really need free wifi hotspotting. So, anyone who has done this a bunch of times want to earn a little $$? I could send my Shift plus money, let you root it, and send it back? Thoughts?
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Really no need for this . As far as communities go, the Shift community is one of the best. I'm sure everyone here is more than willing to help you FREE OF CHARGE . We may bicker back and forth, but we still help one and another out. What HBOOT are you on? How long ago did you accept the OTA? The more info we have the easier it will be to assist you.

Andoid: 2.3.3
Sense: 2.1
Software Number: 2.76.651.6
Kernel: 2.6.35.10
Baseband: 1.08.00.0506
Build: 2.76.651.6 CL74499
Any more info needed? The phone is not activated right now, and I can ship with a pre-paid shipping label to return it...if anyone would be willing to help, that would be super appreciated. I love my shift but need it rooted before I can go back to it and eBay the iPhone.

stormchaser404 said:
Andoid: 2.3.3
Sense: 2.1
Software Number: 2.76.651.6
Kernel: 2.6.35.10
Baseband: 1.08.00.0506
Build: 2.76.651.6 CL74499
Any more info needed? The phone is not activated right now, and I can ship with a pre-paid shipping label to return it...if anyone would be willing to help, that would be super appreciated. I love my shift but need it rooted before I can go back to it and eBay the iPhone.
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Well I don't know if you've thought about doing it yourself. But before you ship it off. You may want to take a look at THIS thread. Then decide if your comfortable enough to do it yourself .

stormchaser404 said:
Andoid: 2.3.3
Sense: 2.1
Software Number: 2.76.651.6
Kernel: 2.6.35.10
Baseband: 1.08.00.0506
Build: 2.76.651.6 CL74499
Any more info needed? The phone is not activated right now, and I can ship with a pre-paid shipping label to return it...if anyone would be willing to help, that would be super appreciated. I love my shift but need it rooted before I can go back to it and eBay the iPhone.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357157
Go to android 2.3 section, there is a donate to me button if you are feeling generous.

Yup...not comfortable with all that.

stormchaser404 said:
Yup...not comfortable with all that.
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I don't know if you've heard, but A method was just discovered on how to downgrade the bootloader so we can gain S-off and root. (Flash all those wonderful kernels, and ROM's ) - Take in mind this is for the EVO 3D
Now I am not vastly experienced at all, but this method for the EVO 3D required us to brick (yes I said BRICK) our device...intentionally to put it into a emmc_recover mode so we can force a new hboot through in Linux.
Now I guess what I am trying to say here is that, compared to the EVO 3D (and all kinds of other devices) the Shift is a baby gain root access on.
And I am not saying this to sound mean, but more of so you can save cash (unless your donating to developers ) DON'T pay someone. Read up,Look at video guides, Do it yourself. I know it sounds confusing/scary but it helps in gaining knowledge and it is honestly not that bad on the forefront.
/nice rant done

notsointeresting said:
I don't know if you've heard, but A method was just discovered on how to downgrade the bootloader so we can gain S-off and root. (Flash all those wonderful kernels, and ROM's ) - Take in mind this is for the EVO 3D
Now I am not vastly experienced at all, but this method for the EVO 3D required us to brick (yes I said BRICK) our device...intentionally to put it into a emmc_recover mode so we can force a new hboot through in Linux.
Now I guess what I am trying to say here is that, compared to the EVO 3D (and all kinds of other devices) the Shift is a baby gain root access on.
And I am not saying this to sound mean, but more of so you can save cash (unless your donating to developers ) DON'T pay someone. Read up,Look at video guides, Do it yourself. I know it sounds confusing/scary but it helps in gaining knowledge and it is honestly not that bad on the forefront.
/nice rant done
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Yeah mean I'll be happy to take your money, but it's really not rocket science. Maybe I'll re do the videos again.

I've been watching this one for a while, just in case
Here's my 2 pence, the community for this device is great. I've mentioned this before.
Anyone "could" come along and say they'd do it for you and just take the handset and the money. But no-one has. Fantastic.
The guide linked to above is your best choice in rooting. There is a video also.
If your not comfortable in doing this, then I'd just hold back and see if an "easier" method pops up. But there are no guarantees.

I completely agree with andy. Plus There's always the fact that Rooting the device yourself is just the start. Later on you may want to do other mods. It helps to have rooted the device yourself. You gain confidence in your abilities, and also learn some of the basic skills you will need later on when modding Android. Reading, asking questions, and gaining as much information as you can is one of the keys to becoming more comfortable with modding your device.

andyharney said:
I've been watching this one for a while, just in case
Here's my 2 pence, the community for this device is great. I've mentioned this before.
Anyone "could" come along and say they'd do it for you and just take the handset and the money. But no-one has. Fantastic.
The guide linked to above is your best choice in rooting. There is a video also.
If your not comfortable in doing this, then I'd just hold back and see if an "easier" method pops up. But there are no guarantees.
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I really love how everyone came together when that evil_devnull guy was on here trying to scam people for a batch root script that didn't even work well (before you became mod here). It was really lame.

VICODAN said:
I really love how everyone came together when that evil_devnull guy was on here trying to scam people for a batch root script that didn't even work well (before you became mod here). It was really lame.
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You should of been around in the EVO 3D forums whenever the bounty was announced to get s-off on the device .he just wanted the bounty and tried all the old methods everyone else had already tried .

notsointeresting said:
You should of been around in the EVO 3D forums whenever the bounty was announced to get s-off on the device .he just wanted the bounty and tried all the old methods everyone else had already tried .
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Hahaha that's hilarious. Who ended up figuring out s-off for 3vo?

Yeah, I was one of the one who "bought" the script. Boo!

stormchaser404 said:
Yeah, I was one of the one who "bought" the script. Boo!
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Damm man that sucks . So did you root yet?
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Any progress on this?
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MobileTechVideos S-OFF

Anyone seen this? https://www.facebook.com/pages/MobileTechVideos/182579981788132?fref=ts
You guys know if they are credible or not?

I have a HTC DNA, and there are several good reports of MobileTechVideos doing s-off on the DNA in the DNA forums.
(The latest updates from HTC/Verizon removed the rooting/s-off exploits, so this currently is the only way to get s-off on a DNA that has been updated).
Here's one report:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40714371&postcount=26

I saw some posts in a few other threads about them so I checked out their web site. It seems like they've been around for a while and more or less specialize in unbricking phones. Yesterday their Facebook page said they'd achieved S-OFF and applied SuperCID and then an hour or so later they said they'd managed it "without the wire". That was almost 24 hours ago, now. I'm waiting for more news.

yea they're credible. they fixed my bricked s2 been following them for 2 years

They are legit. Sent a couple of my phones to them over the years for hardware related repairs and they always fixed the issue. They were prompt, friendly, and well organized. Would not hesitate to use them again in the future.
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So now the question is, how?

ross_ctr said:
So now the question is, how?
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My bet is they won't tell us how. They are a business so if anything you'll probably have to pay them and send your device in for them to do it for you. However, since it's been done I'm sure someone will be able to figure it out soon

ross_ctr said:
So now the question is, how?
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I got the impression is was via some sort of JTAG modification, but there really is no solid information at this point.

I haven't seen them say it was via JTAG, however they did say it wasn't via "the wire trick".... whatever that is. This is my first HTC so not clued up completely yet

ross_ctr said:
I haven't seen them say it was via JTAG, however they did say it wasn't via "the wire trick".... whatever that is. This is my first HTC so not clued up completely yet
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On many of the recent HTC phones, one has to take an insulated wire and short two contacts together at a specific interval in order to S-OFF. Those phones had removable battery covers, so getting at the electronic contacts was fairly simple. Hence the name "wire trick"

They've charged for S-Off in the past. There's nothing solid to think that they won't keep the details to themselves and make you pay for it this time as well.

im guessing its not going to be released

I'd be fine with paying for it.

Simba501 said:
I'd be fine with paying for it.
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I suppose if one had to return the phone to HTC you could relock and flash an RRU, to get rid of the TAMPERED and RELOCKED indicators. That is the advantage of S-Off, so far as I'm concerned.
What is the great advantage in your opinion? Oh yeah, it can flash a bootup animation with S-off.

stevedebi said:
I suppose if one had to return the phone to HTC you could relock and flash an RRU, to get rid of the TAMPERED and RELOCKED indicators. That is the advantage of S-Off, so far as I'm concerned.
What is the great advantage in your opinion? Oh yeah, it can flash a bootup animation with S-off.
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Makes modding easier. I'm not quite familiar with the One yet (get it Friday), but on the One X (on some bootloaders), you couldn't flash kernels in recovery. Two things allowed you to do this: S-off and downgrading hboot. Downgrading was a pain. You also need S-off for changing the splash screen to a custom one.

Burnt two S-OFF exploits in one go

After the amount of effort put into the Tegra HTC One X to achieve S-OFF, it's great to see S-OFF for HTC One, however am I the only one who thinks that releasing two separate S-OFF methods which, I presume, use different exploits is an overkill?
The way I see it is HTC will update the firmware/bootloader soon enough, patching both exploits as they're both public. This means extra work needed to achieve S-OFF on newer firmwares.
It's a shame that the both teams didn't collaborate and keep one exploit as a backup for when first one gets patched to keep the S-OFF goodness lasting longer.

how do we even know it is two exploits discovered?
No one has specifically explained how either method works.

Pointlol said:
lmao, this is quality trolling
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Lol. On a serious note what is wrong with two exploits? Just be happy that we have them and keep it moving ( to OP)
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2

One is firmware dependant (Moonshine) whilst Revone is to work regardless of firnware version.

barondebxl said:
Lol. On a serious note what is wrong with two exploits? Just be happy that we have them and keep it moving ( to OP)
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Simple, newer phones will be shipped with newer firmware with patched exploits. With both of them public, it means HTC can patch both and we're back into the cat and mouse game of exploit searching. There is no point in releasing two, potentially different, exploits which achieve the same thing.

lollylost100 said:
Simple, newer phones will be shipped with newer firmware with patched exploits. With both of them public, it means HTC can patch both and we're back into the cat and mouse game of exploit searching. There is no point in releasing two, potentially different, exploits which achieve the same thing.
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Ok so now that both have been released what do you want to do about it?

I'm sure HTC wanted us to find a s-off method and that they don't care
Remember htc is not apple

drakeymcmb said:
I'm sure HTC wanted us to find a s-off method and that they don't care
Remember htc is not apple
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I think they wouldn't even care specially now that they provide developer and Google editions. That gives flexibility on the consumer side.
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Why not have two methods, doesn't hurt anything.

drakeymcmb said:
I'm sure HTC wanted us to find a s-off method and that they don't care
Remember htc is not apple
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True. They're becoming more developer friendly. That doesn't mean they WANT you to do it, but I highly doubt they will patch it. And it doesn't even matter if you're on a custom rom.

drakeymcmb said:
I'm sure HTC wanted us to find a s-off method and that they don't care
Remember htc is not apple
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+1 on htc is not apple
only way HTC care's is if the carriers ***** about it.

clsA said:
+1 on htc is not apple
only way HTC care's is if the carriers ***** about it.
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Definitely this. HTC can't afford to lose carriers at this point.
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lollylost100 said:
After the amount of effort put into the Tegra HTC One X to achieve S-OFF, it's great to see S-OFF for HTC One, however am I the only one who thinks that releasing two separate S-OFF methods which, I presume, use different exploits is an overkill?
The way I see it is HTC will update the firmware/bootloader soon enough, patching both exploits as they're both public. This means extra work needed to achieve S-OFF on newer firmwares.
It's a shame that the both teams didn't collaborate and keep one exploit as a backup for when first one gets patched to keep the S-OFF goodness lasting longer.
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I have to disagree with you about the two ways. Until we have 1 way that works for both Windows and Linux then we need to ways. Right now one of the ways works on the phone itself or using CMD on a PC or Linux. The other way only works on Linux, I do not know how to use Linux nor do I really want to learn how. So I am forced to use Windows for everything. So like I said once we have a One way that works for everyone we need different ways to do it.

S-OFF in a Linux Live CD has been done before. Minimum learning curve required.
PS. HTC has plenty of reasons to patch S-OFF exploits:
1. It allows the device to return to Locked state, instead of Re-Locked
2. Has the ability to cause bricks
3. Allows for free SIM unlocks
4. Allows to bypass CID restrictions (branded FW)
5. Allows to change serial number/IMEI if you look hard enough
S-OFF is great for us, but for HTC it's just extra costs.
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I don't really see why anyone want any OTA or RUU to flash, the entire purpose of being rooted s-off and everything about this is....
TO USE A ROOTED STOCK ROM....... OR DEODEX ROM....
I think that says everything.... I chose the revone,,, because why in the world did moonshine wait to release it, I will not say my personal opinion what I think about that...

mdiaz33685 said:
I don't really see why anyone want any OTA or RUU to flash, the entire purpose of being rooted s-off and everything about this is....
TO USE A ROOTED STOCK ROM....... OR DEODEX ROM....
I think that says everything.... I chose the revone,,, because why in the world did moonshine wait to release it, I will not say my personal opinion what I think about that...
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There isnt a custom rom out there for the ONE that requires s-off..If custom rom is what YOU WANT then you only need root. However custom roms do not include all firmware from new ruus or OTA's. Being s-off allows you to get these upgrades without waiting on your device specific ruu. I dont think the majority wants it so they can stay stock to get OTA's. Its so they have a choice and can upgrade when they want to. :victory:
Please say your personal opinion about moonshine, your other comments are your personal opinion, why stop now? And what would moonshine have to gain by waiting to release? I'm sure they were perfecting the code..making things as easy as possible for me and YOU. originally Thumb drives weren't supported yet now they are. The thumb drive didnt write its own code to make that happen.. Do you think cracking HTCs security and writing a user friendly app that has little to no chance to harm your device is fast and easy? If so please show us how its done. IMO If you cant do it yourself, and you are not paying for it, it shouldn't matter how long it took to release.

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There isnt a custom rom out there for the ONE that requires s-off..If custom rom is what YOU WANT then you only need root. However custom roms do not include all firmware from new ruus or OTA's. Being s-off allows you to get these upgrades without waiting on your device specific ruu. I dont think the majority wants it so they can stay stock to get OTA's. Its so they have a choice and can upgrade when they want to. :victory:
Please say your personal opinion about moonshine, your other comments are your personal opinion, why stop now? And what would moonshine have to gain by waiting to release? I'm sure they were perfecting the code..making things as easy as possible for me and YOU. originally Thumb drives weren't supported yet now they are. The thumb drive didnt write its own code to make that happen.. Do you think cracking HTCs security and writing a user friendly app that has little to no chance to harm your device is fast and easy? If so please show us how its done. IMO If you cant do it yourself, and you are not paying for it, it shouldn't matter how long it took to release.
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If you noticed, I did not say anything negative, I didn't say my opionion. I did not thrash or flame moonshine. that is why I said I will keep my personal opionion to myself, I respect the developers, I don't develop or know the 1st thing about that.
so that being said, says all...
I say for people being rooted, get a stock rom, or firmwares and the developers release everything we need.
when someone installs ruu or otas. there hboots are changed, and then at one point or another u possibly wont be able to downgrade or something, that is why I say to stay away from RUU's... that is the only thing.
SO PLEASE, UNDERSTAND. I TOTALLY RESPECT MOONSHINE...:good: :silly:

For people with S-OFF, it won't matter if HBOOT is upgraded as long as the Radio flag is changed, then S-OFF will be permanent. Great for you!
But HTC will release updates with new HBOOTs and those will be shipped with newer devices. If they patch up the exploits, and I don't see why they won't, we'll be back to square one. Obviously it doesn't matter right now, but in the future I'm sure it will be an issue.
PS. There's even a new HBOOT on the 4.2.2 firmware and devices will soon start shipping with it.

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Deleted about half the posts for trolling or Off-Topic.
All that could have been usefully said about that topic is said obviously as the discussion drifted to the advantages of Linux....