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Given up on waiting for root..

Well, I hate to say this but I have given up waiting for root as an early leak user. I feel I have the right to post this due to 1, helping wherever I could, 2, contacting paul to even get the ball rolling after jcase mentioned him 3, offered donation for a solution etc...
I love my eris but see all the neat things I am missing out on. When the evo comes out, I will be jumping from pageplus to sprint... i am sure that will be rooted and if not... im still better off.
Thank you to all who have tried their best.. I think this is one instance where the phone beat us. I am annoyed that we do not have root as it allows us to better use our own phone.
anyway, best of luck to all...

Do not feed the troll...

seriously?? I have more posts than you and I am far from that... your comment is stupid.

joey3002 said:
Well, I hate to say this but I have given up waiting for root as an early leak user. I feel I have the right to post this due to 1, helping wherever I could, 2, contacting paul to even get the ball rolling after jcase mentioned him 3, offered donation for a solution etc...
I love my eris but see all the neat things I am missing out on. When the evo comes out, I will be jumping from pageplus to sprint... i am sure that will be rooted and if not... im still better off.
Thank you to all who have tried their best.. I think this is one instance where the phone beat us. I am annoyed that we do not have root as it allows us to better use our own phone.
anyway, best of luck to all...
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I dont blame you homie.. If I had not managed to get a second eris after I jumped on the leakv1, I would have gone nuts watching all the badass ROMS and hacks get released and have no way to use them.

Ok everyone can quit complaining about the 2.1 update! I just checked Verizon ERis Software Upgrade page and its announced that there is an update coming soon! I know theres no date but at least it is now finally up on their site. If you dont belive me check it out your self & for those who doubted it would ever come this just shows that paicence is a virtue.
support.vzw.com/information/droid_eris_upgrade
Check out both pdf files. The Benifits of Software link states all the updates for 2.1. Enough said?

Good riddance.

Whitepaint said:
I dont blame you homie.. If I had not managed to get a second eris after I jumped on the leakv1, I would have gone nuts watching all the badass ROMS and hacks get released and have no way to use them.
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exactly...
WalkingTaco said:
Good riddance.
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suck it... what have you contributed?

Just short out the battery connection on the back of the phone with a small piece of aluminum foil, take it in to Verizon, explain how your phone just turned off and won't turn on and voila! You get a new phone the next day running stock 1.5, ready to be ROOTED!
That's what I did after installing the 2.1 leak and realized I couldn't get root. Let me tell you, my rooted Eris running Evil Eris v2.0 with the overclocked processor is far greater than my friends Moto Droid. I hope you make the right decision.

P.S. Don't be a bully.

There are always risks involved when upgrading a device, I learned that with the PSP and now other people are learning it with their Eris. Crying about it (in the wrong forum no less) is doing nothing to help.
A root will likely eventually be found, patience is the key. As soon as you just can't stand it anymore and upgrade/change device/etc you've potentially lost something forever.
One thing is for sure; I find it insulting that people feel they have a right to complain about being on leak, nobody held you down and forced you to flash anything.

Turnyface said:
Just short out the battery connection on the back of the phone with a small piece of aluminum foil, take it in to Verizon, explain how your phone just turned off and won't turn on and voila! You get a new phone the next day running stock 1.5, ready to be ROOTED!
That's what I did after installing the 2.1 leak and realized I couldn't get root. Let me tell you, my rooted Eris running Evil Eris v2.0 with the overclocked processor is far greater than my friends Moto Droid. I hope you make the right decision.
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It's not overclocked yet, it definitely doesnt do anything at the moment. And as far as shorting it out, I took mine into verizon complaining about the speakers all cutting out glitch and they didnt even look at the phone and swapped me out a new one in 10 minutes. It's not that hard really, just find someone in the store who looks like an idiot. All the smart people are in the back anyway.

Or You can not be a cheapskate and just Buy a new one..

or should I get a MOTO Droid or incredible but I still have my Eris with
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Marisa said:
There are always risks involved when upgrading a device, I learned that with the PSP and now other people are learning it with their Eris. Crying about it (in the wrong forum no less) is doing nothing to help.
A root will likely eventually be found, patience is the key. As soon as you just can't stand it anymore and upgrade/change device/etc you've potentially lost something forever.
One thing is for sure; I find it insulting that people feel they have a right to complain about being on leak, nobody held you down and forced you to flash anything.
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I second that ****!

Just Buy a Incredible Then Get Root Or Wait For It.

Cyostrife said:
Or You can not be a cheapskate and just Buy a new one..
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Not everyone has lots of money and buying a new eris outright is about 500 or so, used on ebay they go for over 300. speaking for myself I know I'd rather have the 3-500 to spend on bills and things then buying a new phone.

Even though I am kicking myself for not waiting a bit longer, I don't regret upgrading to any of the leaks. It gave me 2.1 months before everyone else. A little more patience never hurt anyone.

WalkingTaco said:
Not everyone has lots of money and buying a new eris outright is about 500 or so, used on ebay they go for over 300. speaking for myself I know I'd rather have the 3-500 to spend on bills and things then buying a new phone.
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Seconded. But this thread is useless. If you're tired of waiting on 2.1 leak root then get a new phone, try and get a replacement or just sit there and use the phone like it was meant to be. There's nothing wrong with 2.1 v3 in my opinion. Telling everyone you're leaving because of it is just asking to be trolled/flamed. I suggest a mod closes this thread or something.

Sheen160 said:
Seconded. But this thread is useless. If you're tired of waiting on 2.1 leak root then get a new phone, try and get a replacement or just sit there and use the phone like it was meant to be. There's nothing wrong with 2.1 v3 in my opinion. Telling everyone you're leaving because of it is just asking to be trolled/flamed. I suggest a mod closes this thread or something.
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Agree, 2.1 is so much better than 1.5. Plus, if you want to play with your phone and "customize it" a little there are home replacements in the market you can try. Helixlauncher is really good, and I just found one yesterday on android forums, real nice. It's called Zeam, http://www.mediafire.com/?jtzjyoklenk
Little to no lag and dialer is lightning fast.
So while you might not be rooted, it's nobody's fault that root hasn't been found yet or that you (op) flashed the leak. I want root too, but have the patience to wait for it to be found. There are some of the best devs on here working on it, only a matter of time.
~ happy 2.1 v3 leak user

my point wasnt i was unhappy with anyone here. I love 2.1v3 and yes, its leaps above 1.5
Just annoyed at what I am missing. I do not want this topic to be considered trollish..

Evo 4g rooted before Incredible?

This is the word on the 4G forum here on XDA! Hope this soon leads to the incredible root but for now ill just be jealous.
Link: http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/24/htc-evo-4g-rooted-in-record-time-video/
P.S. Thanks to anyone working on incredible root.

i was equally as upset hope this helps us out
nevermind if you go to the source: http://grack.com/blog/2010/05/23/root-on-an-htc-evo-4g/
they state "At this time, we believe that this specific exploit cannot be applied to Incredible."

Darn that really sucks

mejdam said:
i was equally as upset hope this helps us out
nevermind if you go to the source: http://grack.com/blog/2010/05/23/root-on-an-htc-evo-4g/
they state "At this time, we believe that this specific exploit cannot be applied to Incredible."
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Boo!
When I read the news on engadget, I had the warm and fuzzies. Same android build. Same sense. CDMA radio. Rooted! What a downer!
How can we get an INC into these guys hands? I'd be willing to donate some cash if it helps.

Dont post this crap in the DEV thread, there are 3 other sectiosn for this on XDA

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Dont post this crap in the DEV thread, there are 3 other sectiosn for this on XDA
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Lol not like it would hurt, that **** already full of spam and beggers haha

it was somthing in the bootloader that found that the incredible does not have. But rest assured that its bieng worked on and im sure we will have root.

nah, it wasn't the bootloader

looks to me like he flashed a leaked image based on where he starts the video and seeing how he doesnt show us the bootloader or anything involving recovery/fastboot. My guess is that since this was an evo prerelease is that someone at htc with the shipping rom weasled a su apk in there while also having the test keys to sign. I never see anyone talking on irc and i assume we are months away from root.
edit: after looking on the website it seems as if they have done deeper work than i assumed. I believe there may be similarities in what they did and what we need. He mentions that he used his linux background and knowldge of hacking bootloaders. maybe something is in store for us unlucky incredible users

nope it has been stated that it will not work for us. And it looks like my bootloader theroy is wrong..... mmmmm i wonder what it could be.

are you judging by this little footnote? "At this time, we believe that this specific exploit cannot be applied to Incredible." - taken from grack.com . If they did anything to the bootloader i would assume an exploit can be derrived from this method. we dont need to use their entire method. From what i hear their bootloader is a higher version than ours which should make it more difficult to crack. If they ever release how they did it Im sure we can find some hope to help us.

1wayjonny said:
Dont post this crap in the DEV thread, there are 3 other sectiosn for this on XDA
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Knowledge is power and not sure what was up your rear when posting but any bit of information on semi similar phones never hurt anyone. Seeing how this isn't a post about an accessory app theme maybe could go into general but this is more of developmental news then general.

Well, I at least feel better knowing others are going through the same "pain" I am faced with. I'll donate my time and resources (I still don't have the Incredible thx to it being sold out everywhere... maybe I will try the Best Buy closest to me... although they kind of stink, they don't even carry any Apple computers while most ever other BB does) to get this fix0rz for the peeple!

Hero_Over said:
looks to me like he flashed a leaked image based on where he starts the video and seeing how he doesnt show us the bootloader or anything involving recovery/fastboot. My guess is that since this was an evo prerelease is that someone at htc with the shipping rom weasled a su apk in there while also having the test keys to sign. I never see anyone talking on irc and i assume we are months away from root.
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Nothing to do with test keys, no leaked images. There is no way to modify it to the incredible.

lol, I knew it was going to be rooted before, but I had some hopes it could have been used to help with the root for the Incredible. Oh well, such is life. I'm sure there are some Verizon Android developers that are still working on this....All the give me root and where's the root and other I want root spamming is not going to help with anything other than the continuous spamming of this section.
I really hate this waiting for the Unlockers/Root for any phone as it's nothing but spamming.
Just be patient and it will come. Then it's time for you to show your gratification to the developers for their hardwork that I'm sure most do in their spare time and not as their source of income...
[Insert some more I want root spam after this message]

Any Devs working on Eris 1.49 S=ON Root?

Just looking for a list (if any) of Devs who are actively (or passively) working on Rooting Eris with the 1.49 bootloader.
jvward has a wave thread here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703219
where he is diligently tracking any information regarding the root status of Eris.
As a part of this thread, we wanted to gather information on who is working on the root and donation links (where possible).
Let's not let this thread get ugly.

if there is already a thread why are you posting another thread?

Father_Vic said:
Just looking for a list (if any) of Devs who are actively (or passively) working on Rooting Eris with the 1.49 bootloader....
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No. not too much. I watch the exploit sites but noting has shown up and I am not digging through the source in hopes of finding a bug. Mostly because i have rooted my phone and am am not that altruistic.
One thing to keep in mind is that the eris was never rooted in the true sense of the word. the Devs did nothing technical to root the phone. A pre-rooted leak was obtained. HTC has this thing locked down very well.

Photex said:
if there is already a thread why are you posting another thread?
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There are threads on Root Status. For all intents and purposes they are dead except for a trickle of despondent users looking for answers.
There is no thread asking for a list of Devs working on root.
If this thread irritates you, don't look at it. Don't go looking for a fight; it's not productive.
thisismyanonymousaccount said:
No. not too much. I watch the exploit sites but noting has shown up and I am not digging through the source in hopes of finding a bug. Mostly because i have rooted my phone and am am not that altruistic.
One thing to keep in mind is that the eris was never rooted in the true sense of the word. the Devs did nothing technical to root the phone. A pre-rooted leak was obtained. HTC has this thing locked down very well.
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Yeah, this is the biggest problem in my estimation. No real root was explored which leaves a good portion of Eris users swinging in the breeze.
I was happily rooted until I cracked the screen on my phone. My replacement came flashed with 2.1 and a shiny new 1.49.0000 S=ON bootloader. As a result I am twisting in the wind waiting for a root that will never happen because I fear no one worth their weight in gold is working on it.
I guess the only hope is that if Froyo OTA (if it is ever released for the Eris) will require a new bootloader and push the Dev community into action. One can dream, or go back to my iPhone *shudder*

Father_Vic said:
I guess the only hope is that if Froyo OTA (if it is ever released for the Eris) will require a new bootloader and push the Dev community into action. One can dream, or go back to my iPhone *shudder*
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HTC has already said they're only bringing phones released in 2010 up to 2.2, so it's fair to assume we're SOL. FWIW, my iPad was jailbroken within 20 minutes of me owning it, while my Eris is woefully unmodifiable.

Mostly you wont find out who is working on rooting the 1.49 bootloader simply because the Devs who might be doing so dont want to be bothered daily/hourly with questions about it. Thats why alot of the threads about it have died down, no one was answering them.

abn75 said:
Mostly you wont find out who is working on rooting the 1.49 bootloader simply because the Devs who might be doing so dont want to be bothered daily/hourly with questions about it. Thats why alot of the threads about it have died down, no one was answering them.
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Good point.

abn75 said:
Mostly you wont find out who is working on rooting the 1.49 bootloader simply because the Devs who might be doing so dont want to be bothered daily/hourly with questions about it. Thats why alot of the threads about it have died down, no one was answering them.
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I'm sure i will take heat but this is bullsh*it. Not the keeping quit because they don't want to be bugged but to think there is a team of people working on it and not posting their results in a bit naive. So far we have had "confirmation" a race condition exists when NOBODY ever got any (non root) version of the leak to get abd running in recovery. we have zinfabs bug that nobody has found a way to exploit and that was over a month ago.
The last very concerted effort ended up in the Tattoo being rooted and was very public throughout the whole process.
Please... Someone prove me wrong.
If you are sitting here thinking that root is just around the corner i fear you may be wasting your time. I am sure once a development occurs it will be plastered all over the forum.
I hope this didn't offend too many people and it in no way was meant to diminish the contributions of all the devs who donate their time energy an resources to the Eris.
Regards

Personally, I don't think anyone is actively working on rooting the Eris. In the case of the race condition that the Incredible had, it prompted some activity. Or, the issue that zifnab posted about 1-2 months ago, that got some people poking again.
I think the best hope is for someone at HTC to leak a rooted ROM again.

Seems to me like my next phone is going to be a Motoral Droid something because these Droid Verizon HTC phones are getting no action. Just saying, HTC was like no way in hell that anyone will be able to tinker with our phones on Verizon lol

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I'm sure i will take heat but this is bullsh*it. Not the keeping quit because they don't want to be bugged but to think there is a team of people working on it and not posting their results in a bit naive. So far we have had "confirmation" a race condition exists when NOBODY ever got any (non root) version of the leak to get abd running in recovery. we have zinfabs bug that nobody has found a way to exploit and that was over a month ago.
The last very concerted effort ended up in the Tattoo being rooted and was very public throughout the whole process.
Please... Someone prove me wrong.
If you are sitting here thinking that root is just around the corner i fear you may be wasting your time. I am sure once a development occurs it will be plastered all over the forum.
I hope this didn't offend too many people and it in no way was meant to diminish the contributions of all the devs who donate their time energy an resources to the Eris.
Regards
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Yeah, just as I thought. We have been left behind by the devs. No one is willing to come forward.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709450 look in here

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Yeah, just as I thought. We have been left behind by the devs. No one is willing to come forward.
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They've no doubt been trying but at what point do they decide it's not worth the effort ? Isn't that their choice to make ?

[q] ridiculous

How come the dev's haven't released any information about if they are going to root the 2.2 froyo or not? now before any douche bag comes out with the same response all douche bags have(why don't you make it yourself if your so mad) i am knocking the fact that the devs haven't released a root yet im knocking the fact that they haven't said if they are even doing one, and if you go to the unrevoked beta irc(#unrevokedtest) and ask about the wildfire with regards to a new root they act if you just ask for a baby to sacrifice. Most of us just wanna know so that if in fact the unrevoked project for the new wildfire hboot is not happening we can go and get a new phone or try to find someone with a xclip(i don't know anyone that has one in Australia so im screwed)

Point of this thread apart from your rant? Since you very well know everything there is to it, was it really necessary to have one more rant post?
This thread makes you look like a douchebag, TBH

3xeno said:
Point of this thread apart from your rant? Since you very well know everything there is to it, was it really necessary to have one more rant post?
This thread makes you look like a douchebag, TBH
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........................................................................ of course there is a reason read,read and then re-read and you will find that i am asking if the froyo 2.2 root is a go or no go

Just my 2 cents: getting a patched phone is no right, it's a privilege.
It is entirely up to the people of unrevoked to give information or not.
They are not obliged to do that.
So just wait and see.
If they release anything, be happy, if not, look somewere else.
They are doing a great job, and I have deep respect for them, investing many hours of hard work for the (inpatient) masses.

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........................................................................ of course there is a reason read,read and then re-read and you will find that i am asking if the froyo 2.2 root is a go or no go
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I think indeed that the reason why we have a huge number of unhappy users that post about the issue every day is that there is not a lot of communication from anyone involved in the developing process of rooting the device... Anyway I'm mainly disappointed by the HTC behaviour: what is the point in changing the hboot in an old device that you will not upgrade anymore? Make us buy a new device? I'm thinking of changing the brand of my android instead... Shame of you HTC...

I'm fairly new here, and the sense of entitlement is amazing. I'm new to android development, but this constant noise about this is driving me crazy.
I just bought a wildfire but before I purchased it, I did some research first. In Australia thankfully telstra hasn't done an over the air update so I knew that I could root the device.
On this forum there are many warnings about not applying the over the air update.
My advice is that the more noise that everyone is making about rooting the wildfire with the newer version of hboot, is more likely to make the developers ignore the wildfire as a platform.
Another option is that you could try and root the platform yourself. I know I'm looking at it, as I want s-off.
Take care,
Ivy.
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ucdebz said:
........................................................................ of course there is a reason read,read and then re-read and you will find that i am asking if the froyo 2.2 root is a go or no go
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Which is exactly the reason stated by the 1000 users who made same posts before you on the same topic.
Of course, your anger is justified. But, apparently, since there is no dev from Unrevoked here, and, in the case there is no update from Unrevoked as is the case now, what can you and I do about it? Rant? Ok, rant ahead as much as you want, but, I am 100% sure ranting wont get what you are looking for.

They have said on twitter they are looking into it
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

Maybe if we all donate 1 euro/dollar and make a contest of it.
Who is able to create a root program gets all the money
No serious...just wait...I believe in Unrevoked.
But they aren't robots, they got a live,go to work, play with there children,...
Please everybody wait and you get rewarded !

GéVé said:
Maybe if we all donate 1 euro/dollar and make a contest of it.
Who is able to create a root program gets all the money
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This is a very good idea! I begin to collect funds for the contest, you can put your money into my paypal account, I also accept credit cards and checks ...

Maybe its harder then we all think to find a solution....i bought an xtc clip.....make it s off, ruu with an older 2.1, then i use unrevoked.....then its free. It cost money....but its a hobby.......
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Why are you afraid to root your Wifi Xoom?

I keep reading post after post about how pissed off someone is that they don't have SD support, and now that they have it with the 3.2 update, they are pissed that they have to hook it up to their computer to write to it.
My question to them is this:
If you can root your Xoom, put a custom kernel on it and have full access to your sd card, then take it back to stock if you need to send it back to Motorola, why don't you stop being a baby and just do it?
I mean, you care enough to complain on this forum so that we all have to read about how upset you are, but you are unwilling to follow the simple steps spelled out here to fix it?
Today I had an epiphany . I figured it out. It's not that they feel that they shouldn't have to; they just don't want to admit the true reason. These people are afraid to root their Xoom. If they weren't afraid, then they would be rooted already and moving on with their lives, instead of complaining on this forum and getting all upset about it.
I mean, it's 100% fixable. There is no other logical explanation.

How about people that want to get movies from the Android Market but you can't if you are rooted. That's not fear, that's not wanting to loose features. That's just one example, I am sure there are plenty of others. So maybe you shouldn't be a self-righteous pr*k and realize there may be reasons beyond your comprehension.

I have mine setup the way I want it, and AFAIK there is no way of rooting without wiping during the unlock process. So until then, I will have to live without the ability to change the main font. Which is a shame, but meh.

VaKo said:
I have mine setup the way I want it, and AFAIK there is no way of rooting without wiping during the unlock process. So until then, I will have to live without the ability to change the main font. Which is a shame, but meh.
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True, that's unappealing...just when it's perfect you have to wipe and then you have to set it up again. I used to worry more about that but now that I've had to set-up again about 5 or 6 times I've become a master at doing it quickly and better than before. I totally love having root...wouldn't do it any other way.

I dare say people don't root because they are happy as they are, while those of us who enjoy using all of our devices are dumbstruck by people not doing so.
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I dare say people don't root because they are happy as they are, while those of us who enjoy using all of our devices are dumbstruck by people not doing so.
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I just don't see too much of a need until we get some source code and custom roms.

Charlie_Don't_Surf said:
I just don't see too much of a need until we get some source code and custom roms.
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undervolting each freq by 125mV is way to good to pass up
no way would I ever use stock

It's just not the right time. I wait until a "real" custom rom comes out.

What for? I can use my SD card if I need to. Which I don't. Got 3.2 a couple of days ago. If I want to play with roms and overclocking I have my phone rooted. But for now I don't need it.
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Really?
crisisinthecity said:
I keep reading post after post about how pissed off someone is that they don't have SD support, and now that they have it with the 3.2 update, they are pissed that they have to hook it up to their computer to write to it.
My question to them is this:
If you can root your Xoom, put a custom kernel on it and have full access to your sd card, then take it back to stock if you need to send it back to Motorola, why don't you stop being a baby and just do it?
I mean, you care enough to complain on this forum so that we all have to read about how upset you are, but you are unwilling to follow the simple steps spelled out here to fix it?
Today I had an epiphany . I figured it out. It's not that they feel that they shouldn't have to; they just don't want to admit the true reason. These people are afraid to root their Xoom. If they weren't afraid, then they would be rooted already and moving on with their lives, instead of complaining on this forum and getting all upset about it.
I mean, it's 100% fixable. There is no other logical explanation.
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For all the positive posts on this forum, and how helpful the "experts" are for us neophytes, this post is a huge fail. I'm not sure I could state the value of why it is even here........
Am I pissed I paid $500 for a computer that doesn't do what it claims? Yes. Am I pissed the salesperson sold me a bill of goods? Yes. Am I pissed I didn't have the chance to understand what I was reading about the unit and bought it anyhow? Yes.
Am I afraid to brick my device? Yes. Am I worrying when I read a full page of "if you do this" on the screen, while rooting, I lose my warranty and evil will come to my door? Yes. Am I afraid, while knowing the instructions provided on this forum are pretty darn good, that I might miss something and cause the end of life as we know it on this planet? [ or, at least having to explain to my wife why our $500 paperweight needs dusted off ]. Yes.
So, I'm in. I've used what I've learned here and taken the risk, however small you may think it is. But I'm 50, not 20. I'm considered a "nerd" in my circle of friends, but I can't carry the water for most of you guys. So, yes, I'm a bit worried about killing it. So what?
And unless you're better than I think you are (and I have no doubt you're pretty darn good - seriously), in computers there is no such thing as 100%.

KerryG said:
How about people that want to get movies from the Android Market but you can't if you are rooted. That's not fear, that's not wanting to loose features. That's just one example, I am sure there are plenty of others. So maybe you shouldn't be a self-righteous pr*k and realize there may be reasons beyond your comprehension.
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Good point. Any more reasons?

newskate9 said:
For all the positive posts on this forum, and how helpful the "experts" are for us neophytes, this post is a huge fail. I'm not sure I could state the value of why it is even here........
Am I pissed I paid $500 for a computer that doesn't do what it claims? Yes. Am I pissed the salesperson sold me a bill of goods? Yes. Am I pissed I didn't have the chance to understand what I was reading about the unit and bought it anyhow? Yes.
Am I afraid to brick my device? Yes. Am I worrying when I read a full page of "if you do this" on the screen, while rooting, I lose my warranty and evil will come to my door? Yes. Am I afraid, while knowing the instructions provided on this forum are pretty darn good, that I might miss something and cause the end of life as we know it on this planet? [ or, at least having to explain to my wife why our $500 paperweight needs dusted off ]. Yes.
So, I'm in. I've used what I've learned here and taken the risk, however small you may think it is. But I'm 50, not 20. I'm considered a "nerd" in my circle of friends, but I can't carry the water for most of you guys. So, yes, I'm a bit worried about killing it. So what?
And unless you're better than I think you are (and I have no doubt you're pretty darn good - seriously), in computers there is no such thing as 100%.
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It's here so that we can understand why people won't root their Xoom. Getting some good answers.

I Agree
I cannot imagine using any of my android devices without at least su file capabilities

crisisinthecity said:
It's here so that we can understand why people won't root their Xoom. Getting some good answers.
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Your answer to my post, leads me to believe I missed the point and tone of your OP. I took quite a bit of attitude, perhaps mistakenly. If so, accept my apologies please.

Give me one good reason I should.
While rooting would give me some slight benefit, the juice is simply not worth the squeeze. I am happy with what Ive got and have seen no compelling reason why I should go through the trouble since SD support isnt even an incentive anymore and it was the only thing I was lacking.

Cielmerlion said:
Give me one good reason I should.
While rooting would give me some slight benefit, the juice is simply not worth the squeeze. I am happy with what Ive got and have seen no compelling reason why I should go through the trouble since SD support isnt even an incentive anymore and it was the only thing I was lacking.
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This is great because it says that people love the Xoom right out of the box, or fresh from the stock update.
As I said, having experienced both, I will choose the ability to truly customize to my hearts content. But for those who are happy with plain vanilla, enjoy!

chbennett said:
I dare say people don't root because they are happy as they are, while those of us who enjoy using all of our devices are dumbstruck by people not doing so.
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+1 I have no reason to root.
the speed, battery life, etc. etc. are all fine for what I use it for - nothing heavy - just a replacement for browsing the web and a few games like angry birds
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I just don't see too much of a need until we get some source code and custom roms.
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there's no real custom roms out that give you any benefit to flashing a new rom, and I am on 3.2 - not even put an sdcard in the xoom yet.
all movies/tv shows are streamed direct to TV or to Xoom via Plex, so i dont need extra space to store movies,
I only have the wifi version so i dont need space for travelling around with 3g.
the only time I may need more space and thus an sdcard would be if i go on holiday and want to take a few films on the sd - but even in a readonly state i can do that by loading films onto an sd and sticking it in now...
my only grief was that motorola were taking an aeon to push out any updates to the UK image I had on - but flashing the US fixed that and I decided I dont need to go any further down the rooting process... I'm happy - surely that's the best way to be

newskate9 said:
Your answer to my post, leads me to believe I missed the point and tone of your OP. I took quite a bit of attitude, perhaps mistakenly. If so, accept my apologies please.
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I was basically trying to get some conversations started as to why and why not to root the WiFi xoom so people on this forum understand where the other team is coming from. Thought this thread title and my choice of words would draw some good debate. And it would keep the debate here and not all over the forum.
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I get what people are saying here, if you're happy with what you've got then by all means you should stick to it. No-one should be telling you what to like.
However, I do support the OP. If you are NOT happy with what you've got but there is a fix for it, why not just apply the fix instead of complaining?

crisisinthecity said:
I keep reading post after post about how pissed off someone is that they don't have SD support, and now that they have it with the 3.2 update, they are pissed that they have to hook it up to their computer to write to it.
My question to them is this:
If you can root your Xoom, put a custom kernel on it and have full access to your sd card, then take it back to stock if you need to send it back to Motorola, why don't you stop being a baby and just do it?
I mean, you care enough to complain on this forum so that we all have to read about how upset you are, but you are unwilling to follow the simple steps spelled out here to fix it?
Today I had an epiphany . I figured it out. It's not that they feel that they shouldn't have to; they just don't want to admit the true reason. These people are afraid to root their Xoom. If they weren't afraid, then they would be rooted already and moving on with their lives, instead of complaining on this forum and getting all upset about it.
I mean, it's 100% fixable. There is no other logical explanation.
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I for one am too new to Android to root my Xoom. I have a G2x phone. It has a one step Root method and a one step Recovery method. I'm ok with that. But looking at all the ABD steps and the instructions on how to make them work....I feel its too complicated for a limited return at this time.
If someone put together the Bible of rooting the Xoom, that does NOT begin with , " This assumes you have an understanding of xxx", then maybe I would...
I took the Xoom out of the box...I want to Root, do this, then this, then this. Include what needs to be installed, what to type, etc, etc.
If that sounds whiney...so what, you asked.