This is the word on the 4G forum here on XDA! Hope this soon leads to the incredible root but for now ill just be jealous.
Link: http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/24/htc-evo-4g-rooted-in-record-time-video/
P.S. Thanks to anyone working on incredible root.
i was equally as upset hope this helps us out
nevermind if you go to the source: http://grack.com/blog/2010/05/23/root-on-an-htc-evo-4g/
they state "At this time, we believe that this specific exploit cannot be applied to Incredible."
Darn that really sucks
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i was equally as upset hope this helps us out
nevermind if you go to the source: http://grack.com/blog/2010/05/23/root-on-an-htc-evo-4g/
they state "At this time, we believe that this specific exploit cannot be applied to Incredible."
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Boo!
When I read the news on engadget, I had the warm and fuzzies. Same android build. Same sense. CDMA radio. Rooted! What a downer!
How can we get an INC into these guys hands? I'd be willing to donate some cash if it helps.
Dont post this crap in the DEV thread, there are 3 other sectiosn for this on XDA
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Dont post this crap in the DEV thread, there are 3 other sectiosn for this on XDA
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Lol not like it would hurt, that **** already full of spam and beggers haha
it was somthing in the bootloader that found that the incredible does not have. But rest assured that its bieng worked on and im sure we will have root.
nah, it wasn't the bootloader
looks to me like he flashed a leaked image based on where he starts the video and seeing how he doesnt show us the bootloader or anything involving recovery/fastboot. My guess is that since this was an evo prerelease is that someone at htc with the shipping rom weasled a su apk in there while also having the test keys to sign. I never see anyone talking on irc and i assume we are months away from root.
edit: after looking on the website it seems as if they have done deeper work than i assumed. I believe there may be similarities in what they did and what we need. He mentions that he used his linux background and knowldge of hacking bootloaders. maybe something is in store for us unlucky incredible users
nope it has been stated that it will not work for us. And it looks like my bootloader theroy is wrong..... mmmmm i wonder what it could be.
are you judging by this little footnote? "At this time, we believe that this specific exploit cannot be applied to Incredible." - taken from grack.com . If they did anything to the bootloader i would assume an exploit can be derrived from this method. we dont need to use their entire method. From what i hear their bootloader is a higher version than ours which should make it more difficult to crack. If they ever release how they did it Im sure we can find some hope to help us.
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Knowledge is power and not sure what was up your rear when posting but any bit of information on semi similar phones never hurt anyone. Seeing how this isn't a post about an accessory app theme maybe could go into general but this is more of developmental news then general.
Well, I at least feel better knowing others are going through the same "pain" I am faced with. I'll donate my time and resources (I still don't have the Incredible thx to it being sold out everywhere... maybe I will try the Best Buy closest to me... although they kind of stink, they don't even carry any Apple computers while most ever other BB does) to get this fix0rz for the peeple!
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looks to me like he flashed a leaked image based on where he starts the video and seeing how he doesnt show us the bootloader or anything involving recovery/fastboot. My guess is that since this was an evo prerelease is that someone at htc with the shipping rom weasled a su apk in there while also having the test keys to sign. I never see anyone talking on irc and i assume we are months away from root.
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Nothing to do with test keys, no leaked images. There is no way to modify it to the incredible.
lol, I knew it was going to be rooted before, but I had some hopes it could have been used to help with the root for the Incredible. Oh well, such is life. I'm sure there are some Verizon Android developers that are still working on this....All the give me root and where's the root and other I want root spamming is not going to help with anything other than the continuous spamming of this section.
I really hate this waiting for the Unlockers/Root for any phone as it's nothing but spamming.
Just be patient and it will come. Then it's time for you to show your gratification to the developers for their hardwork that I'm sure most do in their spare time and not as their source of income...
[Insert some more I want root spam after this message]
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Just looking for a list (if any) of Devs who are actively (or passively) working on Rooting Eris with the 1.49 bootloader.
jvward has a wave thread here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703219
where he is diligently tracking any information regarding the root status of Eris.
As a part of this thread, we wanted to gather information on who is working on the root and donation links (where possible).
Let's not let this thread get ugly.
if there is already a thread why are you posting another thread?
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Just looking for a list (if any) of Devs who are actively (or passively) working on Rooting Eris with the 1.49 bootloader....
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No. not too much. I watch the exploit sites but noting has shown up and I am not digging through the source in hopes of finding a bug. Mostly because i have rooted my phone and am am not that altruistic.
One thing to keep in mind is that the eris was never rooted in the true sense of the word. the Devs did nothing technical to root the phone. A pre-rooted leak was obtained. HTC has this thing locked down very well.
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There are threads on Root Status. For all intents and purposes they are dead except for a trickle of despondent users looking for answers.
There is no thread asking for a list of Devs working on root.
If this thread irritates you, don't look at it. Don't go looking for a fight; it's not productive.
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No. not too much. I watch the exploit sites but noting has shown up and I am not digging through the source in hopes of finding a bug. Mostly because i have rooted my phone and am am not that altruistic.
One thing to keep in mind is that the eris was never rooted in the true sense of the word. the Devs did nothing technical to root the phone. A pre-rooted leak was obtained. HTC has this thing locked down very well.
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Yeah, this is the biggest problem in my estimation. No real root was explored which leaves a good portion of Eris users swinging in the breeze.
I was happily rooted until I cracked the screen on my phone. My replacement came flashed with 2.1 and a shiny new 1.49.0000 S=ON bootloader. As a result I am twisting in the wind waiting for a root that will never happen because I fear no one worth their weight in gold is working on it.
I guess the only hope is that if Froyo OTA (if it is ever released for the Eris) will require a new bootloader and push the Dev community into action. One can dream, or go back to my iPhone *shudder*
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I guess the only hope is that if Froyo OTA (if it is ever released for the Eris) will require a new bootloader and push the Dev community into action. One can dream, or go back to my iPhone *shudder*
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HTC has already said they're only bringing phones released in 2010 up to 2.2, so it's fair to assume we're SOL. FWIW, my iPad was jailbroken within 20 minutes of me owning it, while my Eris is woefully unmodifiable.
Mostly you wont find out who is working on rooting the 1.49 bootloader simply because the Devs who might be doing so dont want to be bothered daily/hourly with questions about it. Thats why alot of the threads about it have died down, no one was answering them.
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Mostly you wont find out who is working on rooting the 1.49 bootloader simply because the Devs who might be doing so dont want to be bothered daily/hourly with questions about it. Thats why alot of the threads about it have died down, no one was answering them.
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Good point.
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Mostly you wont find out who is working on rooting the 1.49 bootloader simply because the Devs who might be doing so dont want to be bothered daily/hourly with questions about it. Thats why alot of the threads about it have died down, no one was answering them.
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I'm sure i will take heat but this is bullsh*it. Not the keeping quit because they don't want to be bugged but to think there is a team of people working on it and not posting their results in a bit naive. So far we have had "confirmation" a race condition exists when NOBODY ever got any (non root) version of the leak to get abd running in recovery. we have zinfabs bug that nobody has found a way to exploit and that was over a month ago.
The last very concerted effort ended up in the Tattoo being rooted and was very public throughout the whole process.
Please... Someone prove me wrong.
If you are sitting here thinking that root is just around the corner i fear you may be wasting your time. I am sure once a development occurs it will be plastered all over the forum.
I hope this didn't offend too many people and it in no way was meant to diminish the contributions of all the devs who donate their time energy an resources to the Eris.
Regards
Personally, I don't think anyone is actively working on rooting the Eris. In the case of the race condition that the Incredible had, it prompted some activity. Or, the issue that zifnab posted about 1-2 months ago, that got some people poking again.
I think the best hope is for someone at HTC to leak a rooted ROM again.
Seems to me like my next phone is going to be a Motoral Droid something because these Droid Verizon HTC phones are getting no action. Just saying, HTC was like no way in hell that anyone will be able to tinker with our phones on Verizon lol
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I'm sure i will take heat but this is bullsh*it. Not the keeping quit because they don't want to be bugged but to think there is a team of people working on it and not posting their results in a bit naive. So far we have had "confirmation" a race condition exists when NOBODY ever got any (non root) version of the leak to get abd running in recovery. we have zinfabs bug that nobody has found a way to exploit and that was over a month ago.
The last very concerted effort ended up in the Tattoo being rooted and was very public throughout the whole process.
Please... Someone prove me wrong.
If you are sitting here thinking that root is just around the corner i fear you may be wasting your time. I am sure once a development occurs it will be plastered all over the forum.
I hope this didn't offend too many people and it in no way was meant to diminish the contributions of all the devs who donate their time energy an resources to the Eris.
Regards
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Yeah, just as I thought. We have been left behind by the devs. No one is willing to come forward.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709450 look in here
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Yeah, just as I thought. We have been left behind by the devs. No one is willing to come forward.
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They've no doubt been trying but at what point do they decide it's not worth the effort ? Isn't that their choice to make ?
Is it possible that htc is so advanced that they made wildfire with new hboot impossible to be OWN3D by UNREVOKED ?
Will it be ever possible ?
Just curious.
Theyre working on it atm
sure they are... last post they did that they are working on it was 10-th january or earlyer
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If you want it so soon do it yourself or let others do it.
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If you want it so soon do it yourself or let others do it.
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Sorry but i was not asking about "how long do we have to wait...."
I know that they are people like us and they have other stuff to do and they do it free....
I was only asking if this is possible that it now or someday will be too hard...
In the current state of things, I think that it was, it is and it probably always will be a cat-and-mouse game. Remember the TIFF exploit on the PSP. Who would have thought about it? Hacking a console with picture? Seriously.
Despite best practice, there will always be some shortcuts taken and slack programming. Or the plainly unexpectable; rooting through a malformed wifi packet maybe?
The problem we face nowadays is that we have many hungry cats that get impatient for their food.
Having read about the Alpharev and unrevoked, it does look that this is just a question of time.
I think personally (probably because I know nothing on the subject) that making/getting the tools to sign any HBOOT (PS3 style) is the way to go.
I too have a 2.2.1 phone which I bought like this on eBay, and the wait is frustrating to say the least, but I would rather wait a bit more than stare at a brick.
I too have a 2.2.1 wildfire, I was unwittingly duped into thinking updating would make my phone better. < how wrong was I.
Looking at the positive side at least I can research and learn about Android/rooting/custom ROMs before I dive in and perform them. So hopefully no problems when I eventually do manage to root it
The unrevoked team said on the10th that they are working on it. Today we have the 30th and yet still no updates from them. The new security system is probably too good for them and maybe they will not be able to root it....
Look every system can be exploited, Some are easy and some are hard, just give them time. I have 2.2.1 firmware as i got the phone new just over a week ago. I have tried to root it myself and failed (Linux geek maybe) but andriod is new to me so now i am going to wait.
So wait and research on how to use custom roms i am its fun and give the people making the exploits time, they are doing it for free and have normal lifes like the rest of us.
Me to on OTA firmware 2.2.1!
I never root before and android a bit new for me as well.
I had following up xda to learn how to root but now people say my 2.2.1 cannot root unless someone update hboot first.
I would make a small request if it's really kick-off can someone make a video/link (like xda-ians post in SGS) how to root using hboot step-by-step.
Thank you,
imkr said:
I would make a small request if it's really kick-off can someone make a video/link (like xda-ians post in SGS) how to root using hboot step-by-step.
Thank you,
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There is a step by step detailed guide here which is more than sufficient:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824396
Obviously, it doesnt work for 2.2.1.
3xeno said:
There is a step by step detailed guide here which is more than sufficient:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824396
Obviously, it doesnt work for 2.2.1.
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Yes...I've read from that link as well. but can I have a link of root video? since I google in youtube just part not full...
.. perhaps it IS better if it remains locked ?
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.. perhaps it IS better if it remains locked ?
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Why? We are not saying that when rooting is available, all people must root their phones. There are lots of people now (like me) who updated or bought the phone with 2.2.1 and now we can't root, and I really want to root again to be free to modify some things or overclock, AND CHANGE ROM.
So, there is no reason for what it should stay unrootable.
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Why? We are not saying that when rooting is available, all people must root their phones. There are lots of people now (like me) who updated or bought the phone with 2.2.1 and now we can't root, and I really want to root again to be free to modify some things or overclock, AND CHANGE ROM.
So, there is no reason for what it whould stay unrootable.
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100% agreed,
If you upgraded, without caring about the risks, you deserve it. If you bought the phone with 2.2 already installed, you are not to be blamed.
It's just the fact that people that blindly tapped on"update" and then come here to ***** and whine are driving me mad.
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If you upgraded, without caring about the risks, you deserve it. If you bought the phone with 2.2 already installed, you are not to be blamed.
It's just the fact that people that blindly tapped on"update" and then come here to ***** and whine are driving me mad.
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Why would I/We "deserve" it? Who are you to judge us that way? There are a lot of reasons for what the upgrade was done, and none of them was doing it to then disturb about rooting. I know there are LOTS of people asking without stop, but for example I keep looking and twitter and unrevokedwiki expecting some update, and just replying to help people.
What you said is a closed-mind opinion... You can't even think another way that yours, and that's sad...
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... I keep looking and twitter and unrevokedwiki expecting some update...
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Same here I must check those sites at least 3-5 times daily.
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Why would I/We "deserve" it? Who are you to judge us that way? There are a lot of reasons for what the upgrade was done, and none of them was doing it to then disturb about rooting. I know there are LOTS of people asking without stop, but for example I keep looking and twitter and unrevokedwiki expecting some update, and just replying to help people.
What you said is a closed-mind opinion... You can't even think another way that yours, and that's sad...
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You may call me closed minded, it`s your call, but, I think that people need to learn to live with their decisions.
I`m not talking about you (but if you feel targeted, it`s not my problem), but If you don`t think before you act, you need to pay the price. Think of it this way:
Someone gives you a gun, and tells you that you can shoot anyone you want. You take the gun and shoot some people, but the police catches you. You`ll say "but that man told me I could shoot people with my gun, he`s to blame". NO! you are to be blamed, you decided to shoot those people.
Same thing with the 2.2.1 update. HTC gave you the update, but they did not make you install it. YOU installed it! It`s your choice. Consequences? You can`t root (for now). Don`t come around and whine about not being able to root.
The update was leaked 2-3 days before the official release. In all the topics, people said: "don`t flash it, it will kill/make you unable to root", but it was hopeless.
When and update announcement popped up on your phone, what did you do? Did you think"oooooh, it has an OK button, so I bet I must push it!" or did you think "Now, let`s do a little google search, see what is this update all about?"
If you answered the second one, good thing, you`re normal. If you answered the first....... I`m not gonna comment, because you will say that I`m a mean, close-minded man.
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You may call me closed minded, it`s your call, but, I think that people need to learn to live with their decisions.
I`m not talking about you (but if you feel targeted, it`s not my problem), but If you don`t think before you act, you need to pay the price. Think of it this way:
Someone gives you a gun, and tells you that you can shoot anyone you want. You take the gun and shoot some people, but the police catches you. You`ll say "but that man told me I could shoot people with my gun, he`s to blame". NO! you are to be blamed, you decided to shoot those people.
Same thing with the 2.2.1 update. HTC gave you the update, but they did not make you install it. YOU installed it! It`s your choice. Consequences? You can`t root (for now). Don`t come around and whine about not being able to root.
The update was leaked 2-3 days before the official release. In all the topics, people said: "don`t flash it, it will kill/make you unable to root", but it was hopeless.
When and update announcement popped up on your phone, what did you do? Did you think"oooooh, it has an OK button, so I bet I must push it!" or did you think "Now, let`s do a little google search, see what is this update all about?"
If you answered the second one, good thing, you`re normal. If you answered the first....... I`m not gonna comment, because you will say that I`m a mean, close-minded man.
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First of all, I'm sorry, I didn't really mean to offend. I was saying that you might get in my/our situation or position. The exact reason for what I flashed the 2.2.1 was because I wanted the stability of a complete official ROM to flash the OC kernel. At least to have something stable for sure and then try some new ROMs.
That's my exact case, and each person will have their reasons.
And for the record, I didn't see ANY message about "don't upgrade". You are more "senior member" if you want to say, but I'm not stupid. Could you just accept I made a mistake, as we all do? And now I am quietly waiting for unrevoked bringing the solution, without yelling "unrevoked please/go go go/ **** no unrevoked yet/ etc..."
As I always try to, smile
How come the dev's haven't released any information about if they are going to root the 2.2 froyo or not? now before any douche bag comes out with the same response all douche bags have(why don't you make it yourself if your so mad) i am knocking the fact that the devs haven't released a root yet im knocking the fact that they haven't said if they are even doing one, and if you go to the unrevoked beta irc(#unrevokedtest) and ask about the wildfire with regards to a new root they act if you just ask for a baby to sacrifice. Most of us just wanna know so that if in fact the unrevoked project for the new wildfire hboot is not happening we can go and get a new phone or try to find someone with a xclip(i don't know anyone that has one in Australia so im screwed)
Point of this thread apart from your rant? Since you very well know everything there is to it, was it really necessary to have one more rant post?
This thread makes you look like a douchebag, TBH
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Point of this thread apart from your rant? Since you very well know everything there is to it, was it really necessary to have one more rant post?
This thread makes you look like a douchebag, TBH
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........................................................................ of course there is a reason read,read and then re-read and you will find that i am asking if the froyo 2.2 root is a go or no go
Just my 2 cents: getting a patched phone is no right, it's a privilege.
It is entirely up to the people of unrevoked to give information or not.
They are not obliged to do that.
So just wait and see.
If they release anything, be happy, if not, look somewere else.
They are doing a great job, and I have deep respect for them, investing many hours of hard work for the (inpatient) masses.
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........................................................................ of course there is a reason read,read and then re-read and you will find that i am asking if the froyo 2.2 root is a go or no go
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I think indeed that the reason why we have a huge number of unhappy users that post about the issue every day is that there is not a lot of communication from anyone involved in the developing process of rooting the device... Anyway I'm mainly disappointed by the HTC behaviour: what is the point in changing the hboot in an old device that you will not upgrade anymore? Make us buy a new device? I'm thinking of changing the brand of my android instead... Shame of you HTC...
I'm fairly new here, and the sense of entitlement is amazing. I'm new to android development, but this constant noise about this is driving me crazy.
I just bought a wildfire but before I purchased it, I did some research first. In Australia thankfully telstra hasn't done an over the air update so I knew that I could root the device.
On this forum there are many warnings about not applying the over the air update.
My advice is that the more noise that everyone is making about rooting the wildfire with the newer version of hboot, is more likely to make the developers ignore the wildfire as a platform.
Another option is that you could try and root the platform yourself. I know I'm looking at it, as I want s-off.
Take care,
Ivy.
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........................................................................ of course there is a reason read,read and then re-read and you will find that i am asking if the froyo 2.2 root is a go or no go
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Which is exactly the reason stated by the 1000 users who made same posts before you on the same topic.
Of course, your anger is justified. But, apparently, since there is no dev from Unrevoked here, and, in the case there is no update from Unrevoked as is the case now, what can you and I do about it? Rant? Ok, rant ahead as much as you want, but, I am 100% sure ranting wont get what you are looking for.
They have said on twitter they are looking into it
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Maybe if we all donate 1 euro/dollar and make a contest of it.
Who is able to create a root program gets all the money
No serious...just wait...I believe in Unrevoked.
But they aren't robots, they got a live,go to work, play with there children,...
Please everybody wait and you get rewarded !
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Maybe if we all donate 1 euro/dollar and make a contest of it.
Who is able to create a root program gets all the money
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This is a very good idea! I begin to collect funds for the contest, you can put your money into my paypal account, I also accept credit cards and checks ...
Maybe its harder then we all think to find a solution....i bought an xtc clip.....make it s off, ruu with an older 2.1, then i use unrevoked.....then its free. It cost money....but its a hobby.......
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Well, i just found out about two things. People including our own designgears have the stock SBF file http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11952597#post11952597 but seems like they won't give it to us because they think someone will lose their job.
While we don't want anyone to lose their jobs, i don't think they can trace it back so i really don't understand dg's reasoning in this.
The second thing is that since dg is asking how to flash this thing, i'm guessing he has his atrix (or another atrix) back, since his first motivation in returning it was the lack of the sbf in order to unbrick his device.
DG how about you ask your source for his opinion? Does he really think he can get traced to you? If not, i would guess it would be ok with him to leak this to us.
It's only right to HONOR the source's request. You don't like it? Go find a Motorola contact.
If you think that companies like Moto cant digitally sign software. Oh wait whats that boot loader issue again?
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Well, i just found out about two things. People including our own designgears have the stock SBF file http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11952597#post11952597 but seems like they won't give it to us because they think someone will lose their job.
While we don't want anyone to lose their jobs, i don't think they can trace it back so i really don't understand dg's reasoning in this.
The second thing is that since dg is asking how to flash this thing, i'm guessing he has his atrix (or another atrix) back, since his first motivation in returning it was the lack of the sbf in order to unbrick his device.
DG how about you ask your source for his opinion? Does he really think he can get traced to you? If not, i would guess it would be ok with him to leak this to us.
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Its clearly stated in the thread, the source does not want the file given out. Mods can we please close this thread before it starts a war over a file thats not being released.
I understand the source wants it kept on the DL... But why even bother giving it out at that point?
That's like someone saying here's a free lambo, but the catch is you can't take it out of the garage so I don't get in trouble.
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Clienterror said:
I understand the source wants it kept on the DL... But why even bother giving it out at that point?
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Because the Atrix isn't accepting the file through RSD, xoom uses a similar chipset. So hes asking the Xoom devs for help making RSD work. Hes not flaunting hey I got the sbf and you don't.
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Because the Atrix isn't accepting the file through RSD, xoom uses a similar chipset. So hes asking the Xoom devs for help making RSD work. Hes not flaunting hey I got the smf and you don't.
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Oh no I understand DG isn't being an ass or anything, I was just curious.
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Oh no I understand DG isn't being an ass or anything, I was just curious.
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I can promise you, if anything comes out of this. DG will give out all the info he can.
well of course i don't mean to start a war but yes i am curious i thought any sbf file would work with rsd lite and when i started the thread i didn't see an indication that the file didn't work right now. Rather, i was happy because it looks like dg got an atrix back (he even said in another topic that he tested debian on the atrix)
I would understand if the file hasn't been leaked because it didn't work, although dg isn't the only dev and maybe the other guys can make something about it, but the file can't get traced back to the original insider.
Probably just need the right version of RSD lite
sorry i am not a dev i am just curious on dev, what is the significance of a SBF file? is that equalivent of an OS of a pc? where we can wipe the pc clean and load os at will?
it lets you reload your stock os if the phone gets bricked so hard and adb cannot be used. it's basically the #1 reason of why dg returned his phone, because he had the risk to brick his phone and couldn't go back to stock. it seems that he has his phone back which is very nice for us.
franciscojavierleon said:
it lets you reload your stock os if the phone gets bricked so hard and adb cannot be used. it's basically the #1 reason of why dg returned his phone, because he had the risk to brick his phone and couldn't go back to stock. it seems that he has his phone back which is very nice for us.
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If you have the SBF and software to flash it, motorola phones become stupidly hard to actually brick. It saved me a couple times on my old backflip
The sbf will, from what I understand, give devs a better idea on how the bootloader works. Hopefully this takes them.one step closer to unlocking it.
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If it's true that DG has his Atrix back, then woot! At least he'll be able to dev much more safely, and won't go through 9999 devices.
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I understand the source wants it kept on the DL... But why even bother giving it out at that point?
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As DG is valued member of the developer community I imagine that someone more or less attempted to bribe him with it to keep his atrix and continue developing. This in no way is meant as a slight against his source or DG.
Man_of_Leisure said:
As DG is valued member of the developer community I imagine that someone more or less attempted to bribe him with it to keep his atrix and continue developing. This in no way is meant as a slight against his source or DG.
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Yea, I could see someone giving him a bribe especially if they had a captivate before this (been running perception for a llllooonnggg time now). Although I respect the leeks wishes, I do think he/ she is maybe a tad paranoid. I'm sure enough people have access to this at moto that they couldn't trace it back with any amount of certainty.
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franciscojavierleon said:
well of course i don't mean to start a war but yes i am curious i thought any sbf file would work with rsd lite and when i started the thread i didn't see an indication that the file didn't work right now. Rather, i was happy because it looks like dg got an atrix back (he even said in another topic that he tested debian on the atrix)
I would understand if the file hasn't been leaked because it didn't work, although dg isn't the only dev and maybe the other guys can make something about it, but the file can't get traced back to the original insider.
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franciscojavierleon said:
Well, i just found out about two things. People including our own designgears have the stock SBF file http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11952597#post11952597 but seems like they won't give it to us because they think someone will lose their job.
While we don't want anyone to lose their jobs, i don't think they can trace it back so i really don't understand dg's reasoning in this.
The second thing is that since dg is asking how to flash this thing, i'm guessing he has his atrix (or another atrix) back, since his first motivation in returning it was the lack of the sbf in order to unbrick his device.
DG how about you ask your source for his opinion? Does he really think he can get traced to you? If not, i would guess it would be ok with him to leak this to us.
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Clienterror said:
Yea, I could see someone giving him a bribe especially if they had a captivate before this (been running perception for a llllooonnggg time now). Although I respect the leeks wishes, I do think he/ she is maybe a tad paranoid. I'm sure enough people have access to this at moto that they couldn't trace it back with any amount of certainty.
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Wow, you guys seem to be pretty certain about something you know not much about then again it is not your job that is on the line here. I find it even more interesting that you think because many people have access to it that is difficult to trace. I can tell you from experience depending on the deployment method, you can trace this stuff to a particular machine and user. I personally do not know what motorola is doing but I am glad he is respecting the source wishes.
Back in WM days Microsoft was known for doing this stuff. Many time when you got an internal leaked build, you had to go through it to ensure there were no finger prints. You literaly had to scrub it to ensure traces were gone.
Thread Closed, any sub-sequential threads regarding this will also be closed in respect for DG and his source. Do not press this issue.
So I found this on the EVO 3D channel. Looks like they found a hole they may be able to use for rooting 2.3.3!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135100
tnerb123 said:
So I found this on the EVO 3D channel. Looks like they found a hole they may be able to use for rooting 2.3.3!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135100
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I already have root on my EVO whats the point of this?
there is a whole evo 3d forum here on XDA which would be a better place to talk about it
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I love all the posts about just watch here and they'll be tons of posts about the new root. now that one is close.
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Right now, there is NO new root. I guaranty you there will be people Fighting to be the first to post when it actually drops. Plus, if you read the thread, they state that it seems to be very device specific...meaning it may not help us, we don't know yet. Unless you are a dev or a tester, we are still in wait-and-see mode.
True but I suspect the same root will work on this device as well. Just surprised to see so little chatter about it
rezistrat said:
True but I suspect the same root will work on this device as well. Just surprised to see so little chatter about it
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Why get the hopes up of all of the noobs that took the OTA. The smart ones that got unlucky with a warranty swap or an insurance claim that got 2.3.3 on a new/refurb phone knows where to look and when to ask about it.
I heard unrevoked has a solution. They appear to have bootloader loop issue to resolve before they can publish a solution.
Hope this is true.
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MrDSL said:
I already have root on my EVO whats the point of this?
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It went over your head completely. Derty-der...
Many people with unrooted phones and GB 2.3.3, S-ON, are waiting for a solution to get flipped over to s-off. So they can root.
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Im sure xda devs are hard at work I will wait as long as it takes them or until they say it can't be done
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sweet i heard they rooted the cdma hero
True, yes it may be coming. Quote the maybe part ok let's all move on.
They actually said last night in IRC that it's unlikely that the exploit will work on Sense 1.0 roms.