Wish Google offered GPE Edition Note 4! - T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General

I go back and forth every few weeks between CM12 and FireKat TouchWiz ROMs.
I love the features added by Samsung regarding the S-Pen, but the ridiculous smoothness, speed, and elegance of pure Lollipop is so attractive.
In my perfect world, we'd have a Google Play Edition Note 4 that was pure Lollipop, but with the added S-Pen features.
That is all.:good:
P.S. - I know VZW has a dev edition, but that's no better than my unlocked TMo Note 4 in this regard.

I thought the exact same thing when I bought my first Note phone, having come from having only owned Google/Nexus devices.

Art Vandelay said:
I go back and forth every few weeks between CM12 and FireKat TouchWiz ROMs.
I love the features added by Samsung regarding the S-Pen, but the ridiculous smoothness, speed, and elegance of pure Lollipop is so attractive.
In my perfect world, we'd have a Google Play Edition Note 4 that was pure Lollipop, but with the added S-Pen features.
That is all.:good:
P.S. - I know VZW has a dev edition, but that's no better than my unlocked TMo Note 4 in this regard.
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Unfortunately you would lose a ton of the functionality that is tied to the Touchwiz framework.

Try to find dual boot solution?
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So you can use googles crap camera......

masri1987 said:
So you can use googles crap camera......
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Yeah..if I could steal the Samsung camera app and S-Pen features I'd be a happy camper.

Snap camera and silent camera are pretty good alternatives. Although the Volume bug keeps me on TW. I cant stand to have it shoot up full blast out of nowhere

Volume bug?

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Note 2 with touchwiz or stock android? Vote!

Ok so i always hear a lot of people saying how they dislike touchwiz and that stock android is the best blah blah blah... So I was wondering, would you guys have preferred a note 2 with stock android and no S-pen or do you love it with touchwiz? I'm asking because I love touchwiz, I think its the best skin out there and it is a big reason why the note 2 is so awesome. But would you have preferred a note 2 with the same super AMOLED screen, same 3100mah battery but no spen, no touchwiz ( bye bye multi-window, spen features.....) running stock android?
Touchsh*t is slow and ugly as sh*t. That's why I delete touchwiz launcher and use Nova Prime launcher. Stock android iterface is much faster and smoother. Too bad that CyanogenMod for all samsung phones is very very unstable and buggy. I'm forced to use samsung official rom's with half touchwiz (with deleting touchwiz launcher). Will be great if someone can do normal non buggy CyanogenROM and port S Planner, S Note and Camera app into it.
Besides, multiwindows from Note 2 sucks. Look at Galaxy Note 10.1 multiwindows, I tried it at mobile store, it is great!
I've been running cm based roms since the first galaxy s (galaxy s, galaxy s2 note 1, galaxy s3, galaxy note 2), however, I made the switch back to touch wiz on my note today. Reasoning: I just feel it's more useful than a cm based rom on this device, and it's not as bad it use to be (believe me). So my vote goes to touch wiz ATM. Will I ever switch back to a cm based rom? Of course, but it's not a must have for me, for the first time.
*these are my options, I'm not basing anyone, or anything, and if you feel as if I insulted you...---- off (;*
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I hate TW, but CM is such unstable because of Sammy not releasing sources..
So I'm using TW.
I'm now waiting for MIUI V5, as its 100% stable and doesn't have TW look. (only features and base)
I don't hate Touchwiz but I'm using Nova Launcher Prime. And you don't lose very much with using a third party launcher. I can still use popup note, s-pen, multi window etc. My toggles in notification bar are still the same. I don't know what people are losing with using a third party launcher. It only adds to the phone.
TW is a framework, not just a launcher
Between those two, TW any day, any time. Stock Android is nothing but a hype.
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cm=fast+buggy (for now)
tw=a bit slow+stable
so own choice
for me as long as I can make call and play game, it doenst matter
I like TouchWiz(stock rom) as it's stable and quite fast. At the moment, CM based ROMs are too unstable.
anonymous572 said:
Touchsh*t is slow and ugly as sh*t. That's why I delete touchwiz launcher and use Nova Prime launcher. Stock android iterface is much faster and smoother. Too bad that CyanogenMod for all samsung phones is very very unstable and buggy. I'm forced to use samsung official rom's with half touchwiz (with deleting touchwiz launcher). Will be great if someone can do normal non buggy CyanogenROM and port S Planner, S Note and Camera app into it.
Besides, multiwindows from Note 2 sucks. Look at Galaxy Note 10.1 multiwindows, I tried it at mobile store, it is great!
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Touchwiz isn't just the launcher for Christ's sake. This is why Touchwiz gets all this hate, people not realising this simple point. Yes, the Touchwiz LAUNCHER is crappy and a lot of people including myself use one from the store, but Touchwiz itself with all its features is by far better than the featureless stock android (CM ect..)
Note 2 is my first Android device that I'm using completely stock...
I don't know why. ... I had many other android phones and tablets and all of them were flashed custon roms and kernels only couple of hours after purchase. ..
I love my note 2!
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Yup I use apex launcher and S pen multi window and all the features work in it I don't like touchwiz just try apex launcher. Its awesome and highly customisable with air view works in it and holo look. Touchwiz is not that customizable however its good for the ppl who wants simple , fast and easy UI.
I recommend using a launcher mainly with NOTE 2 use Nova and Apex.
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Stock android all the way. Its indeed better than touchwhiz.
aviralsingh16 said:
Yup I use apex launcher and S pen multi window and all the features work in it I don't like touchwiz just try apex launcher
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No warez allowed here. Reported.
All phones I've had previously I've always ran CM. Once I got the Note 2 didn't find it necessary. Phone runs great on TW and has great features that I actually use at work and home life. And the battery is just perfect.
anonymous572 said:
Besides, multiwindows from Note 2 sucks.
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What?!
I don't even know where to begin...
No. I will exercise restraint. IMO, multiwindow is and can be very helpful. Sure, it's much more useful on 10.1-inch screen, but that doesn't make it less useful on Note2 and its 5.5-inch screen. It's multitasking heaven IMO.
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Both are good...
Friends,
We are on Android, the most powerful OS currently on market (I think everybody in XDA will agree to this). Then why do you people worry. You can always switch back and forth between them.
You have Titanium Backup if you are rooted and even you have Carbon for unrooted device. So better give it a try for all the roms available. All of them are great. And i personally love CM 10.1 with all its additional customization features.
So i used to switch back and forth between them
And i also heard that some devs have started working on dual booting, but i am not sure about the recent updates on it.
I love both, and at the same time, yes, Stock on Note II is excellent.
B3311 said:
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Originally Posted by aviralsingh16 View Post
Yup I use apex launcher and S pen multi window and all the features work in it I don't like touchwiz just try apex launcher
No warez allowed here. Reported.
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@B3311 Please explain what you mean as apex launcher is not warez.
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Your poll leaves out another option and that is keep most of what it TouchWiz but add customization by using Nova.
I think by getting rid of touchwiz you're losing too much functionality with the phone. I've tried a few different roms and launchers. From completely different cm10.1 to just nova launcher and I always come back to touchwiz... There is no lag, from what I can tell, on touchwiz. Everything works the way it should. It's not worth it to lose the features that samsung added to this phone. If I wanted to do that I could have kept my note 1 running cm9.
donec said:
@B3311 Please explain what you mean as apex launcher is not warez.
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As you are well aware, Blackmarket Alpha is a warez site. Your editing skills are marvellous. Idiot.
AOKP (or CM, or AOSPA..) all the way. Retains the functionality of the S-Pen and only loses multiwindow, which I don't find useful anyway. Also, it allows me to use the latest version of Android (4.2.2) which has a useful account manager that lets my friends use a completely separate account from me.
I don't necessarily dislike Touchwiz but it's not as aesthetically pleasing, and I have a hard time understanding why it's about 500MB heavier than AOSP.

Discussion: TouchWiz 4.1.2 vs. Android 4.3

Hello.
I'm in the mood for some discussion. Currently waging which rom to install on my note, TouchWiz or latest android (4.3). How would you people rate a 4.1.2 rom built on correct sources against the latest version of Android? Performance, battery and user friendly wise.
Bring it on!
/pemell
This is the original Galaxy Note (GT-N7000) forum.
Jeez, just realised that. Was looking my ass off to find my thread
Actually, I own a N7000 device too so why not let it stay, I'll just change the op a little.
Built on correct sources? Grmpf... They (Samsung) don't provide proper sourced, but if they did, I would prefer an aftermarket firmware version of Android 4.3 with correct sources over a Gingerbread UI built Touchwiz rom... Or even a Galaxy Note Google Edition would suite my Note well
but... how is an aosp 4.3 in comparison with TW 4.1.2? i searched a lot but i dont find any comments about the batterie or the overal performance... and what about the spen? is there a note taking app in aosp?
Touchjeez sux!
I'd rather trust my nethers to a lunatic with a Burdizzo than have TW on my Note.
it is so simple
if you are looking for speed , stability and up-to-date go with aosp or cm
if you you want s-pen stuff and more useless stuff like smart stay the tw will be your target
P.s : i bought the note just for the spen feature so i think i will stick with TW for a while
AA1973 said:
Built on correct sources? Grmpf... They (Samsung) don't provide proper sourced, but if they did, I would prefer an aftermarket firmware version of Android 4.3 with correct sources over a Gingerbread UI built Touchwiz rom... Or even a Galaxy Note Google Edition would suite my Note well
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chasmodo said:
I'd rather trust my nethers to a lunatic with a Burdizzo than have TW on my Note.
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AA1973, chasmodo, you're still here in the n7000 section. Even if I never knew you by person or chatted with you on this forum It was heart touching seeing your replies in this thread.
I'm on SlimBean v.8 stable currently on my N7105 and jellybeer on my N7000. I'm thinking of switching to TW on my N7105 to get the best out of the battery. My knowledge says TW has better battery life. I might be wrong.
A deal breaker for me is that I had my current theme chooser theme ported for touchwiz.
I don't use SPen in a daily basis but now and then when I have to annotate picture, my Note shines. Once I had to go buy handbag for my lady and there were two dozen at the store neatly decorated. I snapped, numbered them from 1 to 20 using SPen and sent picture through Whatsapp.
If one buys Note to put ROM that doesn't support SPen, then I don't understand why they buy Note at all?
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You don't need to understand. Of course, the SPen does work. Not identically as on a Touchdizz Rom, but you're able to draw 1-20 on pictures, fore sure
Papyrus, Jotter, Gnote, Memo Beta, Skitch are some apps as alternative to S-Not.
AA1973 said:
You don't need to understand. Of course, the SPen does work. Not identically as on a Touchdizz Rom, but you're able to draw 1-20 on pictures, fore sure
Papyrus, Jotter, Gnote, Memo Beta, Skitch are some apps as alternative to S-Not.
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but chief you are going to miss a lot of features like gestures and s-note and i did not find a decent alternate to s-note yet
I only got the Note for its Hardware so i can stick an AOSP inside in it.
I dont use Stylus. Never wanted to.
4.1.2 vs 4.3 is Light years a head Maybe more than a year when you can think of an update if they are even planning to provide one.
You never know Samsung can surprise us
umbrella android said:
but chief you are going to miss a lot of features like gestures and s-note and i did not find a decent alternate to s-note yet
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The most important gestures *for me* are integrated in CM, AOSPA, slimbean etc: Left, right, up and down swipe as well as long press and double tap.
Actions to be chosen are back, home, menu, recent apps or you choose a specific app to be launched. That's enough for me.
No, personally, I think I do not miss S-note and I definitely do not miss Touchwiz
The infamous screenshot feature via S-Pen or the hand can easily be replaced
The SPen wasn't the killer feature and reason I bought the Note. It was nice to have, but not a must have for me. The main reason at that moment of time was the screen size and some other hardware specs. But this is way OT for a 4.12 vs 4.3 discussion
I was thinking of buying a new phone because touchwiz was so slow now and I thought that was the norm of phones used for more than a year.
As last desperation I installed asylum 4.3 and I just saved myself a whack of money because finally this phone is usable again.
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umbrella android said:
but chief you are going to miss a lot of features like gestures and s-note and i did not find a decent alternate to s-note yet
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try InNote really good snote replacement.:good:
rom
can any one upload
gennxt rom for galaxy note n7000
its really amazinggggg
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can anyone plz provide me
gennxt rom for galaxy note n7000
plz quick replyyy
Show me one AOSP/CM ROM that is as stable and battery friendly as TouchWiz... right, there is none. Still, like we men tend to do stupid things like ducktaping us to the ceiling, we throw away stock stable experience for flashing madness )
My favorite TouchWiz-ROM: Live Note 5.2 (well its just stock)
Favorite AOSP-ROMs: Utackas Paranoid android (fairly stable overall), FSC ROM (awesome customizations)
ritvik1423 said:
can anyone plz provide me
gennxt rom for galaxy note n7000
plz quick replyyy
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We coullllddd butttt weeee don'tttt wantttt tooooo.
Ravensysteam said:
Show me one AOSP/CM ROM that is as stable and battery friendly as TouchWiz... right, there is none. Still, like we men tend to do stupid things like ducktaping us to the ceiling, we throw away stock stable experience for flashing madness )
My favorite TouchWiz-ROM: Live Note 5.2 (well its just stock)
Favorite AOSP-ROMs: Utackas Paranoid android (fairly stable overall), FSC ROM (awesome customizations)
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LMFAO

AOSP themed TouchWiz Dream ROM

My "Dream ROM" for the Note 4 would be:
*Rooted
*Knox removed
*CyanogenMod style theming
*Samsung and Sprint bloatware removed (accept for Facebook sync)
*TouchWiz apps (calendar, messaging, phone, clock, calculator, lockscreen, notification quick settings) replaced with CyanogenMod versions
I am definitely willing to test but lack the skill to compile.
Anyone want to try?
i feel like you picked the wrong phone for that..
Why? I have suggested a TouchWiz rom that just looks like AOSP. Taking the best features of this phone (embodied in TouchWiz functions) and adding the apps of AOSP.
I'm sure there will be CyanogenMod based ROMs for this device but they will lack the expanding Windows that work great on this ROM.
Sounds like you want a different launcher. Try Nova
Bralgar said:
Sounds like you want a different launcher. Try Nova
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No.
I was specific with what I want.
I already use another launcher.
Just saying Nova can give the AOSP look. *shrug*
Bralgar said:
Just saying Nova can give the AOSP look. *shrug*
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Respectfully, it is not the look, but the interface of those apps that I like better.
Probably better to wait for cm11 to be made official for the Sprint Note 4. Hopefully it happens.
DarkManX4lf said:
Probably better to wait for cm11 to be made official for the Sprint Note 4. Hopefully it happens.
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Ordinarily, with most phones, I'd absolutely agree with you.
I flashed CyanogenMod based ROMs for every android I've ever had. In fact I was glad to get rid of TouchWiz for my Galaxies S2 and S3.
However, with this beast, I wouldn't want to give up the S-Note stylus features, floating windows, or one handed mode.
With xposed, I could duplicate the floating windows (x-halo) and split screen view.
But I wouldn't be able to duplicate a lot of the S-Note features (some maybe but not most), lots of the camera features, or one handed mode.
Further, the battery optimization on this phone is phenomenal and I have found the CM based ROMs aren't usually as good.
hermeticist said:
Ordinarily, with most phones, I'd absolutely agree with you.
I flashed CyanogenMod based ROMs for every android I've ever had. In fact I was glad to get rid of TouchWiz for my Galaxies S2 and S3.
However, with this beast, I wouldn't want to give up the S-Note stylus features, floating windows, or one handed mode.
With xposed, I could duplicate the floating windows (x-halo) and split screen view.
But I wouldn't be able to duplicate a lot of the S-Note features (some maybe but not most), lots of the camera features, or one handed mode.
Further, the battery optimization on this phone is phenomenal and I have found the CM based ROMs aren't usually as good.
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Agreed. With flashing cm11, there are some trade offs. For me I like the smoothness of cm11 compared to Touch Wiz.
DarkManX4lf said:
Agreed. With flashing cm11, there are some trade offs. For me I like the smoothness of cm11 compared to Touch Wiz.
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I agree the smoothness is great, now we just CM11 on the Note 4.
We will soon
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pbedard said:
We will soon
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Did I mention I Beta test?
I am working on this right now If everything goes smooth I will have an AOSP Themed Touch Wiz Rom ready
Totally agree with you. CM11 and 12 are great roms, but I love using the s pen as well as the s health and s note apps.

Lollipop 5.0 vs Touchwiz

As a Verizon Galaxy Note 4 owner, I feel it is pretty safe to assume that sometime within the next few months or so we should receive the next evolution of Android OS, Lollipop. Checking out videos of stock 5.0 developer preview, it looks pretty sweet. Nice animations, lock screen notifications, and other various improvements/features.
Seeing how Samsung has skinned just about every inch of their phones with touchwiz, I'm wondering what the community thinks will change with the UI with the upcoming update. Do you think there will be visual updates and additional features, or just purely under-the-hood changes.
cas239 said:
As a Verizon Galaxy Note 4 owner, I feel it is pretty safe to assume that sometime within the next few months or so we should receive the next evolution of Android OS, Lollipop. Checking out videos of stock 5.0 developer preview, it looks pretty sweet. Nice animations, lock screen notifications, and other various improvements/features.
Seeing how Samsung has skinned just about every inch of their phones with touchwiz, I'm wondering what the community thinks will change with the UI with the upcoming update. Do you think there will be visual updates and additional features, or just purely under-the-hood changes.
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Based on this preview, it looks like mainly under the hood stuff as TW still seems to be in full force
Do you mean how much will change from vanilla android lollipop versus Samsung lollipop or do you mean from current Samsung UI versus Samsung lollipop?
Because it does appear to be heavily skinned again, but everyone should have known that already. It also appears quite a bit is changing as far as visuals from current touchwiz.
mademan420 said:
Based on this preview, it looks like mainly under the hood stuff as TW still seems to be in full force
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Thanks, took a look at the video.
A tad disappointed with the overall implementation, but beggers can't be choosers. While I am a fan of the stock UI Google experience, I am also a fan of some touchwiz features. Wish there was a happy medium between Touchwiz and Stock Android
Also look up android l galaxy s5 there was a video previewing tw on android l.
Rippley05 said:
Do you mean how much will change from vanilla android lollipop versus Samsung lollipop or do you mean from current Samsung UI versus Samsung lollipop?
Because it does appear to be heavily skinned again, but everyone should have known that already. It also appears quite a bit is changing as far as visuals from current touchwiz.
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I'm curious about Touchwiz skinned 4.4.4. and Touchwiz skinned 5.x
I know Vanilla Android vs Touchwiz Skinned Android will be vastly different animals... For better or for worse
cas239 said:
I'm curious about Touchwiz skinned 4.4.4. and Touchwiz skinned 5.x
I know Vanilla Android vs Touchwiz Skinned Android will be vastly different animals... For better or for worse
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Well. Looks like the video covers a lot of it. Samsung doesn't visually change much, ever. It is disappointing. Hopefully it's an early look and some more visual improvements will be made.
I agree with what most are saying..... However you are crazy if you think we will have it "in the next few months." I'd be willing to bet you don't have it until late next summer....
Samsung takes forever skinning new versions, then Verizon takes forever injecting their bloat in.. We have a worst case scenario.... Both Verizon and Samsung are slow with updates
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We'll have it by late January at the latest.
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Title of thread is a little misleading...maybe "What will Touchwiz look like on "Lollipop"?"
SCDroid said:
We'll have it by late January at the latest.
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I hope you are right, but I won't hold my breath
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU3H1t0kIrQ
This seems like an updated build compared to the one I posted earlier.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU3H1t0kIrQ
This seems like an updated build compared to the one I posted earlier.
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The color palette seems to have been improved from the original video to this updated video. Design seems reminiscent of the UI design of the Note 4. More whites and blues, less greens and blacks
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The color palette seems to have been improved from the original video to this updated video. Design seems reminiscent of the UI design of the Note 4. More whites and blues, less greens and blacks
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I thought so too.
tHANK U
Really thank u

[Q] Searching for Vanilla Rom with touchwohiz elements

Hi everyone!
I am currently considering buying a Note 4, watched and read reviews and I really like the big quad HD amoled screen, the camera, and the spen. But what I don't like is the software. The note version of ThouchWhiz sure has a few cool functions like multi window but I hate the design of the settings menu and status bar. And, of course Samsungs update speed is not the best. I currently own a Nexus 4 and I'd like to have a similar experience (Vanilla Android) on the Note 4, but with spen and fingerprint functionality similar to TouchWhiz. So here's my question: Is there a custom rom with similar functions or would I have to stick with TouchWhiz?
Thanks in advance
Norodan said:
Hi everyone!
I am currently considering buying a Note 4, watched and read reviews and I really like the big quad HD amoled screen, the camera, and the spen. But what I don't like is the software. The note version of ThouchWhiz sure has a few cool functions like multi window but I hate the design of the settings menu and status bar. And, of course Samsungs update speed is not the best. I currently own a Nexus 4 and I'd like to have a similar experience (Vanilla Android) on the Note 4, but with spen and fingerprint functionality similar to TouchWhiz. So here's my question: Is there a custom rom with similar functions or would I have to stick with TouchWhiz?
Thanks in advance
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For the 910f, there's a cm12 rom available to flash but it loses some of the touchwiz functionality. You can't use multiwindow on cm12 and the spen works but it doesn't have most of the features from touchwiz. If you want these features then you have to stick with touchwiz I'd say cm12 is definitely worth a flash though and see if you like it
Edit: The fingerprint scanner doesn't work on cm12 and the 910f hasn't received official lollipop yet but the 910c has. I love my note 4 though and I even like the touchwiz that comes with it Highly recommended :good:

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