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The 'I Hate Touchwiz' thread

Here, since so many of you are whining about it so much, do it here.
I don't hate it, just bored of all the comments.
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DannyDrama said:
Here, since so many of you are whining about it so much, do it here.
I don't hate it, just bored of all the comments.
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Hardly any if us hate it, we just want choice, pointless thread.
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well at least you could use this thread to talk about the choice you want instead of every other bloody thread being filled with crap

Grr @ touchwiz
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I really don't know why you hate touchwiz. To be honest I like it and I'm using it since I bought my galaxy s2. I've tried out
Adw launcher and go launcher ex but every time I went back to touchwiz. Go launcher ex was quiet fine but it took more battery than touchwiz. Don't
Know why the whole hate about the stock launcher.
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Way you hate tw?
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guys , we always goin to have TW at ours samsung devices , at ICS at blla blla version , everytime TW will be there , so deal with it !

TouchWiz is a pretty good launcher. There is one thing that I don't like about it though; If I use another launcher, the TwLauncher itself, the animated wallpaper and all the widgets I have placed on it will load on boot and they will sync, even if I don't use the launcher. This causes battery drain and CPU load.
The only work around, I have fount, is to disable it with Autostarts. This is not an ideal solution because it requires root and may void warrenty.

There's maybe 1% of users hating TW, but there's no hate going on.
Probably you want to point to the "yuck, TW4 over ICS" threads.
We still like TW, but not in the current form. Old TW with the new ICS don't make a good marriage. Let's say that the current version is outdated.

Not a fan of Touchwiz myself, before I rooted I had no other option but to use it because other launchers gave me problems. I miss Launcher Pro and I even paid for that thing, but it killed my battery too son and it distorted your wallpaper when you rotated.
Now I'm happy with everything Cyanogenmod's giving me.
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Gnarfsan said:
TouchWiz is a pretty good launcher. There is one thing that I don't like about it though; If I use another launcher, the TwLauncher itself, the animated wallpaper and all the widgets I have placed on it will load on boot and they will sync, even if I don't use the launcher. This causes battery drain and CPU load.
The only work around, I have fount, is to disable it with Autostarts. This is not an ideal solution because it requires root and may void warrenty.
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rule number 1 of changing launchers
remove everything from all screens of previous launcher. No quite sure why you would need to root your phone to perform such a simple task. If youre not using that launcher why are you keeping all your widgets on it?

TW best launcher, smoothest by far.

Grown fond of Touchwiz. Was previously a Sense user with HTC phones and didn't like TW, but i'm so used to it now.

So? why don't you tell this to samsung then? this isn't a confession threat..
get another launcher, problem solved..

Did any one maybe think that they're just using touch wiz in their build of ics just for testing purposes? To be honest if they would just let us change the theme or sort the damn app drawer etc I would be happy! However if go launcher enables hardware acceleration in the future I'll probably never use touch wiz anyway...that's the beauty of Android...we can choose
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I just got my SGS2 2 weeks before. Previously I used an HTC Desire HD with Sense 3.5.
I don't hate TW, but I defenetly don't like it. Sense is just so much easier to use, and has many many good, new ideas. TW is very much iOS like, just like the SGS2 with the one physical button on the bottom. Keyboard and camera app is very good, but the dialer, message app, the lockscreen, the iOS like launcher and app drawer... I just don't like them.
Then there's the mounting. You plug an HTC to your PC and it offers to charge only, mount, usb theter your net, and you can make one default or you can get the screen every time. First time I tried to mount my SGS2 to my PC, I just couldn't find out, I had to search the net, how to do it! Samsung has so much to learn from HTC about software, and HTC should learn a lot about hardware from Samsung.
It's good to have this thread : ) I had to let it get out of myself

I think:
first of all, the "omg i hatez touch wiz" comments started going again when everybody saw the first leaked ICS rom from Samsung that had TW over ICS. While Im not sure, one of the biggest reasons people (and me included) hate it is that it makes your phone look almost the same as now. And people like to look at their phone and see "yes I haz the Ice Cream I haz the power today!!!" :>
At the moment for me, it's ICS Launcher > TW Launcher > everything else.
I made a ICS "wannabe" yesterday with Go Launcher and it looked good, except I still prefer TW launcher. The App drawer in TW is something I like, its simple and fast. Overall TW is simple and fast. Its just that since I have seen ICS, TW has fallen on the second place.
Just like a made the switch from HTC Sense to ASOP after about half a year on the HTC Desire, I think I will make the jump on the SGS2 to a good working ICS ASOP rom.

Hate it with a passion! Frezze it all the time .
looks like an iphone but powered by android baby!!!!

used GO Launcher since day1. Maybe i was just used to it.

Hey PPL
On samsung galaxy s2 there is no other launcher smoother than touchwiz
I am bored of Touchwiz too but i keep coming back to it due to its smoothness.
The closer to touchwiz is QQLauncher Pro but most of its menus are in chinese
I hope samsung will update Touchwiz soon before releasing ICS.
Does anyone know what happened to Launcher PrO Why is it dead?

Touchwiz 4 thrumps ics in ...

I know most of us hate touchwiz but there are a couple of things samsung's done better than Google, what do you like more in touchwiz than stock ics?
1. The quick notification toggles, I know ics has a quick access to settings in the notifications but its not quite the same
2. I like more the way you place widgets in touchwiz launcher, it resembles honeycomb, I dont know why Google got rid of it in ics
3. You have spell corrections for more than one language at the same time without having to switch keyboards
That's pretty much it, touchwiz icons, colors, dialer, contacts are pretty much... horrible

In my experience Touchwiz on my GS2 is faster and smoother than stock ICS on the Galaxy Nexus. Add a live wallpaper and its no competition, Nexus chokes and dies.

Touchwiz is pretty underrated tbh.
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I'm currently using resurrection ICS custom with stock (nova) UI and I have to say that I kind of miss TW. I also think that is underrated, actually is a very nice launcher

Chad_Petree said:
I know most of us hate touchwiz but there are a couple of things samsung's done better than Google, what do you like more in touchwiz than stock ics?
1. The quick notification toggles, I know ics has a quick access to settings in the notifications but its not quite the same
2. I like more the way you place widgets in touchwiz launcher, it resembles honeycomb, I dont know why Google got rid of it in ics
3. You have spell corrections for more than one language at the same time without having to switch keyboards
That's pretty much it, touchwiz icons, colors, dialer, contacts are pretty much... horrible
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How did you come to the conclusion "most of us hate touchwiz" is it because someone started a thread on here,i would estimate many more like TW than hate it, i think TW is brilliant, ive tried every other launcher and always come back to TW as it is smoother than any of the rest of them

I would never buy a phone that I couldn't get to vanilla android the skins are ridiculous. I'm on a galaxy nexus using nova (installed through cwm for the extra features) and find the experience to be my favorite so far on android without having to rom my phone. Its snappy and clean. You like touchwiz more power to you but skins always feel to me like what they are: window dressing on the experience I want.
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I'll be gutted if Samsung ditch TW for the Galaxy S3 but i doubt they will they will just add some improvements and modifications,etc i have the TW 4G launcher with 5 docks on homescreen and it is fast and very smooth.

What Google try to do with ICS AOSP Launcher is to mimic TouchWiz features that we already had. (In the end, ICS launcher also was work cooperated with Samsung developers)
Seriously, people should get "another" Android 2.3 and see what TouchWiz bring... Even HTC sense feels really stoneage next to features of TouchWiz we don't realise until we loose them.

I love the responsiveness and the overall appearance, but there is a lot of wasted space and opportunity with TW.

Well...TW Launcher is purely Underated....if TW launcher can be modified a bit, it could be defenitely useful..i am using sensation ROM 2.0....TW launcher looks awsm in that!!

****wiz is not bad either..i only recently made the leap to Go Launcher and loving that to be honest..But still Touchwiz is pretty smooth, has good options and a good launcher all round....

Touchwiz 4.0 is the best launcher compared to motorola UI and sense 3.0 in my opinion. its not as heavy as sense and its a lot smoother than the motorola UI plus it has great features, its easy to use and works great. I love what they did when you long press the home screen to add widgets and wallpapers, i think it work really well. Sure sense is more eye candy but it eats every ressources that the phone has. So based on usability, smoothness and performance i think touchwiz 4.0 is king. If only htc would do a better job at optimizing it would probably number one. I do like stock ICS skin also, but again it isnt as smooth and well optimized as touchwiz is on the S2.

Drewsipher said:
I would never buy a phone that I couldn't get to vanilla android the skins are ridiculous. I'm on a galaxy nexus using nova (installed through cwm for the extra features) and find the experience to be my favorite so far on android without having to rom my phone. Its snappy and clean. You like touchwiz more power to you but skins always feel to me like what they are: window dressing on the experience I want.
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Whats nova?
xZeDgEx said:
In my experience Touchwiz on my GS2 is faster and smoother than stock ICS on the Galaxy Nexus. Add a live wallpaper and its no competition, Nexus chokes and dies.
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I hace read that exact sale thing so many times, the gs2 is faster than the galaxy nexus, but why? Ics is more optimized than gingerbread,maybe is because the exynos beats texas instruments?

There is only one thing that annoys me with touchwiz and that is you cant sort your apps alphabetically. Thank goodness there is an app called appzorter, pity its not working for ics yet. Well it wasnt the last time i looked al least.
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Touchwizz is NOT only the launcher.. It's the whole samsung UI elements and features (smart dial, quick toggles, media codecs, etc etc).
The problem with touchwizz is the style, general UI. Take for example the dialer: very ugly. Or the big toggle icons in notification area (they can remove text and make smaller buttons). And the general UI experience is simply poor (compare section headers and subsection headers from TW with ICS, buttons, sliders, lists and so on).
What I want? TW with ICS flavour.
Eg: ICS dialer with smart dial, ICS contacs, ICS messeging, ICS launcher with fast page switching, media codecs, general UI elements from ICS (headers, buttons, sliders, list, etc), etc.
By switching the launchers doesn't solve the problem with touchwizz as many users write here as a solution to "get ride of TW".
Touchwizz is deeply integrated in Android framework and apps.

IMHO Touchwiz is very cool for peoples who don't want many extra settings or customisations. He's also very colorfull and simple to use.
After that, I must say that ICS stock launcher seems little "cold" in the other side. I mean, it's all Blue and White and the default ICS wallpaper are little too "cold" too, but it's surely the "ICS" touch.
The tastes and colours are in the nature, in term of performances TW is not so bad, it's just miss a little more features like customisation, etc...

If samsung removed their swipe grid-icons in the application drawer, then more people would love touchwiz.
... Im sure this is the reason why some people don't like it.
I like touchwiz, but I must admit - I'd love it to have a vertical application drawer with 3D roller effect as default.
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Vertumus ICS theme makes touchwiz and the Samsung UI look very nice

DSF said:
Touchwizz is NOT only the launcher.. It's the whole samsung UI elements and features (smart dial, quick toggles, media codecs, etc etc).
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So many people just don't get it. Or maybe refuse to understand.
You could sky write this and people would still not get it.
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That holds true for any OS/Software. The software/OS is judged mainly based on the UI/look, not on the functionality or efficiency.

Pure Android JB on GS3?

Hi guys,
I just bought a Nexus 7 and I love it. Issue is the differences between that and the TouchWiz are getting annoying.
nothing huge but would prefer having the same on both.
This isn't a what rom is best question, but mainly which offers the closest to pure Jelly Bean for GS3?
I know Cyanomod is popular, would that be a good place to start?

Try super nexus by faryaab. That is closest to stock experience.
☞ sent from GS3 or Nexus

Any AOSP based Rom, like pure AOSP, cyanogenmod 10 or AOKP will do, they all use the same launcher as nexus 7 just the latter two have extra features like overclocking and extra settings. AOSP is completely clean.
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delsus said:
Any AOSP based Rom, like pure AOSP, cyanogenmod 10 or AOKP will do, they all use the same launcher as nexus 7 just the latter two have extra features like overclocking and extra settings. AOSP is completely clean.
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AOKP seems to be ICS?

Start from CM10 and then move on AOSP based custom Roms.. There are aokp builds which are using jb
You have been zooo==>ted

Wait until jb source is out and I`m pretty sure there will be a aosp based rom. I hope so
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All AOSP roms are boring. They seem to be a little bit faster but after some time i feel there is things absent here and there.

yken said:
All AOSP roms are boring. They seem to be a little bit faster but after some time i feel there is things absent here and there.
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For me the beauty of aosp is that you add what you want to fill in the gaps. I just flashed CM9 and love it so far. The only thing I really miss is smart stay.
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Dav_prime said:
For me the beauty of aosp is that you add what you want to fill in the gaps. I just flashed CM9 and love it so far. The only thing I really miss is smart stay.
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Smart stay ex from market fills that gap

Dav_prime said:
For me the beauty of aosp is that you add what you want to fill in the gaps. I just flashed CM9 and love it so far. The only thing I really miss is smart stay.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.beansoft.eyespy.free
Here's smart stay.

One of the biggest benefits of owning an S3 is having the customized UI you are complaining about. You get a really good messaging app with lots of cool features (like zooming with volume buttons when you're in the car for example, color schemes, you can choose whatever background you like, you are not confined to eye hurting white). You get samsung apps with lots of free apps you would have to pay for, also apps specifically for the S3, optimized for looks and performance. You get direct call, smart stay. You get the smoothest and nicest looking launcher with weather. Everything working out of the box. If it's only the launcher that's bugging you, just use trebuchet, apex or nova. The rest you shouldn't really complain about IMO. Pure android is lacking in looks and functionality, also all the custom roms you install will have worse performance in both 2d and 3d.

You might be right about 3D performance but the OS on CM9 is a HELL of a lot snappier, which - for someone who doesn't play games - is more important. No home button lag either.
I bought the SIII for the hardware and consider the software to be a travesty: it's like Samsung tried to cram as much useless crap in there as possible just so they could say they did it first. Their design standards and eye for colour are hideous. Touchwiz genuinely offends me. If it were not for the sublime hardware I wouldn't touch Samsungs with a bargepole. I'm one of those people who wishes that when you booted your Android phone for the first time you got the choice of stock or manufacturer-branded firmware.
Best wishes to anyone who likes Touchwiz but it's not for me, and I thank those wonderful devs who continue to work hard on removing it and giving us hardware lovers a purer Android experience.
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leoni1980 said:
You might be right about 3D performance but the OS on CM9 is a HELL of a lot snappier, which - for someone who doesn't play games - is more important. No home button lag either.
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I'm not sure by what you mean. The launcher or the menus? They are both equal or faster on stock. No home button lag - install Jkay mod alpha for LI5 and you have that sorted as well. To me the stock android look is so poor and lacks in functionality. My Gnex on stock looks like it's an empty device with basic functionality only. It's a matter of preference I guess. I understand your point of view and wish cm9 and 10 were as fast as the stock samsung roms. They are not.
Not in the ui, not in apps. Battery life is also worse. Fact.

victorator said:
I'm not sure by what you mean. The launcher or the menus? They are both equal or faster on stock. No home button lag - install Jkay mod alpha for LI5 and you have that sorted as well. To me the stock android look is so poor and lacks in functionality. My Gnex on stock looks like it's an empty device with basic functionality only. It's a matter of preference I guess. I understand your point of view and wish cm9 and 10 were as fast as the stock samsung roms. They are not.
Not in the ui, not in apps. Battery life is also worse. Fact.
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Generally I find everything on CM9 feels a lot faster. I have been on stock for most of my ownership of the S3 so I know what the stock OS feels like - whether that's with ICS or the Jellybean leaks (up to LI4). I suppose it's down to personal choice but I don't personally find any functionally to be lacking in the stock ROM on the Nexus 7. I think stock Android is beautiful and I hate the fact that Samsung feels the need to add replace perfectly good things with rubbish ones - like that crappy keyboard of theirs.
Why not at least leave the stock keyboard and the launcher installed and allow the choice for the layman. Things like Smart Stay are a bit of a gimmick, fine, and other things like the swipe to take a screenshot, S(hit)-Voice and other stupid sensor related 'features' are utter crap that no-one surely uses...for me though, the main problem is that Touchwiz is ugly. Everything from the SMS app to the uglified notification bar.
Anyway, each to their own.
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I'm still struggling with the keyboard on the sgs3 I have swift key trial currently but it would be nice to have the stock keys. Which keyboard would people recommend?
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btw what the difference between AOKP and AOSP ??
AOKP = android open kang project but I also don't know what is that =.=

XeactorZ said:
btw what the difference between AOKP and AOSP ??
AOKP = android open kang project but I also don't know what is that =.=
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Aosp is just pure Google stock experience while aokp add some additional features like theme chooser, customize layout and etc.
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markdj57 said:
I'm still struggling with the keyboard on the sgs3 I have swift key trial currently but it would be nice to have the stock keys. Which keyboard would people recommend?
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Swype. It is completely free and fast.
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The problem with Touchwiz is that is has serious lag. Open the Dialer and it takes a good second to open up. Same with all the UI its just slow.
It has a ton of good features such as slide to call and stuff but the lag is killing me.

What I would lose not using Touchwiz UI?

(never used touchwiz before)
Maybe S-Pen menu won't appear?
What about multiple windows on a single screen?
etc.
How deeply touchwiz was integrated in Note 3 case?

If you change your launcher - all TW funcionality: multiwindow, s-pen will work too I recommend google now launcher. Simple and fast

darkkain said:
If you change your launcher - all TW funcionality: multiwindow, s-pen will work too I recommend google now launcher. Simple and fast
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I use Nova now and I'm happy. But my phone is Nexus and I don't loose any phone's functionality with Nova, because Nexus phone doesn't have any.
Thanks for answer.

bat0nas said:
I use Nova now and I'm happy. But my phone is Nexus and I don't loose any phone's functionality with Nova, because Nexus phone doesn't have any.
Thanks for answer.
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I have a nexus 5 and note 3. Touchwiz is necessary for all major advertised features such as the multiwindow, spen window, ultra power saving mode etc. So yes without touchwiz you are losing a fundamental part of the phone. however, in my instance I run touchwiz and aosp roms on my note 3. I have duplicated many features that is touchwiz based on a stock android rom. It takes multiple apps and doesn't work exactly the same but does overall the same things. With the note 4 there are many more features in the Spen so you will be taking a bigger hit switching from touchwiz to stock android.
Edit: Also, the stock touchwiz camera is lost and A LOT of its features such as 4k video recording. and it seems the quality on the touchwiz cam is better than google or aosp camera. There are some close alternatives for the camera however.

Well... that pretty much answers my question.
Thanks.
Touchwiz for me then.
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You will loose the lag also.

Lose.

Hi,
I used TW for a few days and now switched to Nova.
Really can't find anything that doesn't work compared to TW.
Both sidebars (nav keys and app shortcuts) work, stylus menu works.
Anybody noticed any Note (3 or 4) features that doesn't work with a non stock launcher?
Thanks!!

_INSPIREed said:
I have a nexus 5 and note 3. Touchwiz is necessary for all major advertised features such as the multiwindow, spen window, ultra power saving mode etc. So yes without touchwiz you are losing a fundamental part of the phone. however, in my instance I run touchwiz and aosp roms on my note 3. I have duplicated many features that is touchwiz based on a stock android rom. It takes multiple apps and doesn't work exactly the same but does overall the same things. With the note 4 there are many more features in the Spen so you will be taking a bigger hit switching from touchwiz to stock android.
Edit: Also, the stock touchwiz camera is lost and A LOT of its features such as 4k video recording. and it seems the quality on the touchwiz cam is better than google or aosp camera. There are some close alternatives for the camera however.
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I would have to disagree with almost all that is said here.
Verizon N4 : Thank me if I helped ya

xtrandrix said:
I would have to disagree with almost all that is said here.
Verizon N4 : Thank me if I helped ya
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care to elaborate

The topic is about using a custom launcher on the stock Note 4 ROM.
So all the features you mentioned (mukti window, spen, ultrapower saving etc) works perfectly fine with Nova launcher.
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bat0nas said:
(never used touchwiz before)
Maybe S-Pen menu won't appear?
What about multiple windows on a single screen?
etc.
How deeply touchwiz was integrated in Note 3 case?
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bat0nas said:
The topic is about using a custom launcher on the stock Note 4 ROM.
So all the features you mentioned (mukti window, spen, ultrapower saving etc) works perfectly fine with Nova launcher.
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Gotcha. I misunderstood your first post. When you referred to the "touchwiz ui" and how deeply touchwiz was integrated, I assumed you meant if you were to flash an aosp rom instead of a custom launcher :good:

AOSP themed TouchWiz Dream ROM

My "Dream ROM" for the Note 4 would be:
*Rooted
*Knox removed
*CyanogenMod style theming
*Samsung and Sprint bloatware removed (accept for Facebook sync)
*TouchWiz apps (calendar, messaging, phone, clock, calculator, lockscreen, notification quick settings) replaced with CyanogenMod versions
I am definitely willing to test but lack the skill to compile.
Anyone want to try?

i feel like you picked the wrong phone for that..

Why? I have suggested a TouchWiz rom that just looks like AOSP. Taking the best features of this phone (embodied in TouchWiz functions) and adding the apps of AOSP.

I'm sure there will be CyanogenMod based ROMs for this device but they will lack the expanding Windows that work great on this ROM.

Sounds like you want a different launcher. Try Nova

Bralgar said:
Sounds like you want a different launcher. Try Nova
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No.
I was specific with what I want.
I already use another launcher.

Just saying Nova can give the AOSP look. *shrug*

Bralgar said:
Just saying Nova can give the AOSP look. *shrug*
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Respectfully, it is not the look, but the interface of those apps that I like better.

Probably better to wait for cm11 to be made official for the Sprint Note 4. Hopefully it happens.

DarkManX4lf said:
Probably better to wait for cm11 to be made official for the Sprint Note 4. Hopefully it happens.
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Ordinarily, with most phones, I'd absolutely agree with you.
I flashed CyanogenMod based ROMs for every android I've ever had. In fact I was glad to get rid of TouchWiz for my Galaxies S2 and S3.
However, with this beast, I wouldn't want to give up the S-Note stylus features, floating windows, or one handed mode.
With xposed, I could duplicate the floating windows (x-halo) and split screen view.
But I wouldn't be able to duplicate a lot of the S-Note features (some maybe but not most), lots of the camera features, or one handed mode.
Further, the battery optimization on this phone is phenomenal and I have found the CM based ROMs aren't usually as good.

hermeticist said:
Ordinarily, with most phones, I'd absolutely agree with you.
I flashed CyanogenMod based ROMs for every android I've ever had. In fact I was glad to get rid of TouchWiz for my Galaxies S2 and S3.
However, with this beast, I wouldn't want to give up the S-Note stylus features, floating windows, or one handed mode.
With xposed, I could duplicate the floating windows (x-halo) and split screen view.
But I wouldn't be able to duplicate a lot of the S-Note features (some maybe but not most), lots of the camera features, or one handed mode.
Further, the battery optimization on this phone is phenomenal and I have found the CM based ROMs aren't usually as good.
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Agreed. With flashing cm11, there are some trade offs. For me I like the smoothness of cm11 compared to Touch Wiz.

DarkManX4lf said:
Agreed. With flashing cm11, there are some trade offs. For me I like the smoothness of cm11 compared to Touch Wiz.
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I agree the smoothness is great, now we just CM11 on the Note 4.

We will soon
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We will soon
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Did I mention I Beta test?

I am working on this right now If everything goes smooth I will have an AOSP Themed Touch Wiz Rom ready

Totally agree with you. CM11 and 12 are great roms, but I love using the s pen as well as the s health and s note apps.