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i see thread after thread just spewing out hate for touchwiz..
how can so many of you not like touchwiz, lemme correct that *HATE touchwiz... i realize its the hip thing to do, to hate touchwiz, and you somehow think it makes you look pro, or cool, or like you know what youre talking about, but touchwiz rocks.. most of you havent even seen what the alternative is, you just hate it cause everyone else does.
do you realize losing touchwiz loses:
*built in screen capture by pressing home+lock
*task manager built into long press
*swipe left/right to call/text in contacts/dialer/texts
*toggles in drop down menu
*amazing UI in camera/file manager/ music player
*ability to adjust display options, beyond what stock roms are capable of
*swype
* ability to adjust brightness by moving dropbar back and forth
* the option to use the actual touchwiz launcher
* Divx, Xvid, and .avi support out of the box, as well as other formats supported only by samsung
*S-Voice
*Eye Tracking
*Smart Stay, keeps the screen awake while you're looking at the display
*Popup Play
its not like having a stock rom gives you anything in place of these.. if you dont like the touchwiz launcher, you can install another one, nova, apex, go, adw, adw ex, i cant see why ppl are soo determined to get rid of it, and have nothing in its place. would you really rather have no options, in place of where you DID have options?
answer now is not anymore or don't hate it that much anymore.
I don't hate the touch wize, I hate the touchwize launcher and i miss all my touchwize apps, I actually wish I could have to touchwize framework on my custome ics rom just with a another launcher
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If you dont change to an AOSP ROM, only change the launcher, you dont loose those features, right
The bulk of what you mention can be built in to custom ROMs
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If you dont change to an AOSP ROM, only change the launcher, you dont loose those features, right
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Right, but I am on a aosp rom, and sadly tw is not enough to make me leave it.
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The bulk of what you mention can be built in to custom ROMs
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The day I find one for my phone I'll let u know
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The day I find one for my phone I'll let u know
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What phone do you have
I was in CyanogenMod before ICS, now back to Samsung based ROM, but I replaced the bad AOSP apps, like phone and SMS with others from the market as nice or nicer than TW´s
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What phone do you have
I was in CyanogenMod before ICS, now back to Samsung based ROM, but I replaced the bad AOSP apps, like phone and SMS with others from the market as nice or nicer than TW´s
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I got the Samsung GS I know about the market replacements but I want the organal, so far I got the clock and the task manger to work on my dark Knight 5.5, I am gonna try s voice tomorrow
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I really am hoping that I will like the new version of Touchwiz! If I can change the icons in the dock and on the homescreens as well as the size of the grid on the homescreen, then I see myself using it on my phone. If I can't do both of those things, then I'm using Apex.
I don't want to stare at the default dock icons all day long, they are way too cartoony and colorful for me. But yeah, if I can change ALL the icons in Touchwiz, slap a nice and dark wallpaper on there and get some Metrostation/Minimal Text goodness going... I would LOVE to use Touchwiz, because I always try to install as few third-party apps and stuff on my phones. I'm just afraid that it won't allow me the level of customization that I want. Lucky for me Android is about options, so I can have an alternative launcher on my phone within 2 minutes if I want.
So for me it's not about trying to be cool and hip. Those things come naturally to me.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think ditching Touchwiz will affect like half of the things on your little list there?
EDIT: Task manager, swiping left/right in contacts, drop down toggles, camera UI, swype, brightness control, popup play and certainly Divx, Xvid, and .avi support... I don't see those being controlled by what launcher you use? I could be wrong though
Most of that stuff isnt anything to do with TW at all. Most of it is in stand alone apps that will work whether you use TW as a launcher or not. I will be using Apex launcher and i will still have all the Samsung extras.
AOSP, Cyanogen and AOKP ROMS are over rated, most are slower than custom ROMs based on Samsung stock, they have missing or broken features and are often unstable. I dont see the point in getting a phone like the S3 and putting inferior software on it, why not just buy a Nexus to start with? The best ROMs are custom ROMs based on stock, optimised and free of the truly useless bloat.
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Most of that stuff isnt anything to do with TW at all. Most of it is in stand alone apps that will work whether you use TW as a launcher or not. I will be using Apex launcher and i will still have all the Samsung extras.
AOSP, Cyanogen and AOKP ROMS are over rated, most are slower than custom ROMs based on Samsung stock, they have missing or broken features and are often unstable. I dont see the point in getting a phone like the S3 and putting inferior software on it, why not just buy a Nexus to start with? The best ROMs are custom ROMs based on stock, optimised and free of the truly useless bloat.
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I agree but I have to go aosp to have ics on my phone
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I will continue using GO EX launcher, it does everything I like, no reason to change
have seen this same thread title somewhere else...
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have seen this same thread title somewhere else...
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Yeah...
OP why do you feel the need to post the same thread here? Is it because no-one's posted for a few days on the one you've got in the S2 forum
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Yeah, identical thread started by the same OP in the SGS2 i9100 forum.
Silliness.
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The codec support is definatly the best and I love the small things they added like the customizable battery percentage, extended toggles in the pulldown, newsticker on the lockscreen, shortcuts on the lockscreen etc.. it seems like they let you customize alot and I think you can really tell they hired someone from the CM team.
The new touchwiz also looks pretty good, I really like that they use 5 icons now. The appdrawer looks great and the plain black pulldown also looks nice. I think it looks very grown up now and even though it's using popping colours I don't find it too tacky or cartoonish like many others. I can't stand the "buhuhuhu they ruined the beauty of stock ICS buhhuhuhuhu" comments anymore it might not be "eyecandy" like sense which btw. I find extremly ugly but it is super smooth, compareable with iOS, it's minimalistic and not too overloaded.
The browser in gingerbread was crushing pretty much everything. It kinda sucks on ICS ATM, but seeing some videos it seems like it's fixed on the S3. Chrome comes close but it's still so buggy and lacks features. Samsung still has the smoothest browser, thats for sure...
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Most of that stuff isnt anything to do with TW at all. Most of it is in stand alone apps that will work whether you use TW as a launcher or not. I will be using Apex launcher and i will still have all the Samsung extras.
AOSP, Cyanogen and AOKP ROMS are over rated, most are slower than custom ROMs based on Samsung stock, they have missing or broken features and are often unstable. I dont see the point in getting a phone like the S3 and putting inferior software on it, why not just buy a Nexus to start with? The best ROMs are custom ROMs based on stock, optimised and free of the truly useless bloat.
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Absolutely not true! CM is probably one of the most stable aosp roms. It will provide you (after some time passed for development) with superior performance, battery life and sometimes options like ui themes etc.
This is fact, not just user experience... but for everyone the roms they prefer the most. Personally looking forward to have dualboot and cm9 as primary rom...
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Absolutely not true! CM is probably one of the most stable aosp roms. It will provide you (after some time passed for development) with superior performance, battery life and sometimes options like ui themes etc.
This is fact, not just user experience... but for everyone the roms they prefer the most. Personally looking forward to have dualboot and cm9 as primary rom...
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Sorry, but on my S2 Cyanogen 9 sucks compared to the custom ROM/Siyah kernel combo im using. I tried it.
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Yeah, identical thread started by the same OP in the SGS2 i9100 forum.
Silliness.
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not true, i added exclamation marks! lol
Hi guys,
I just bought a Nexus 7 and I love it. Issue is the differences between that and the TouchWiz are getting annoying.
nothing huge but would prefer having the same on both.
This isn't a what rom is best question, but mainly which offers the closest to pure Jelly Bean for GS3?
I know Cyanomod is popular, would that be a good place to start?
Try super nexus by faryaab. That is closest to stock experience.
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Any AOSP based Rom, like pure AOSP, cyanogenmod 10 or AOKP will do, they all use the same launcher as nexus 7 just the latter two have extra features like overclocking and extra settings. AOSP is completely clean.
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Any AOSP based Rom, like pure AOSP, cyanogenmod 10 or AOKP will do, they all use the same launcher as nexus 7 just the latter two have extra features like overclocking and extra settings. AOSP is completely clean.
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AOKP seems to be ICS?
Start from CM10 and then move on AOSP based custom Roms.. There are aokp builds which are using jb
You have been zooo==>ted
Wait until jb source is out and I`m pretty sure there will be a aosp based rom. I hope so
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All AOSP roms are boring. They seem to be a little bit faster but after some time i feel there is things absent here and there.
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All AOSP roms are boring. They seem to be a little bit faster but after some time i feel there is things absent here and there.
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For me the beauty of aosp is that you add what you want to fill in the gaps. I just flashed CM9 and love it so far. The only thing I really miss is smart stay.
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For me the beauty of aosp is that you add what you want to fill in the gaps. I just flashed CM9 and love it so far. The only thing I really miss is smart stay.
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Smart stay ex from market fills that gap
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For me the beauty of aosp is that you add what you want to fill in the gaps. I just flashed CM9 and love it so far. The only thing I really miss is smart stay.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.beansoft.eyespy.free
Here's smart stay.
One of the biggest benefits of owning an S3 is having the customized UI you are complaining about. You get a really good messaging app with lots of cool features (like zooming with volume buttons when you're in the car for example, color schemes, you can choose whatever background you like, you are not confined to eye hurting white). You get samsung apps with lots of free apps you would have to pay for, also apps specifically for the S3, optimized for looks and performance. You get direct call, smart stay. You get the smoothest and nicest looking launcher with weather. Everything working out of the box. If it's only the launcher that's bugging you, just use trebuchet, apex or nova. The rest you shouldn't really complain about IMO. Pure android is lacking in looks and functionality, also all the custom roms you install will have worse performance in both 2d and 3d.
You might be right about 3D performance but the OS on CM9 is a HELL of a lot snappier, which - for someone who doesn't play games - is more important. No home button lag either.
I bought the SIII for the hardware and consider the software to be a travesty: it's like Samsung tried to cram as much useless crap in there as possible just so they could say they did it first. Their design standards and eye for colour are hideous. Touchwiz genuinely offends me. If it were not for the sublime hardware I wouldn't touch Samsungs with a bargepole. I'm one of those people who wishes that when you booted your Android phone for the first time you got the choice of stock or manufacturer-branded firmware.
Best wishes to anyone who likes Touchwiz but it's not for me, and I thank those wonderful devs who continue to work hard on removing it and giving us hardware lovers a purer Android experience.
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You might be right about 3D performance but the OS on CM9 is a HELL of a lot snappier, which - for someone who doesn't play games - is more important. No home button lag either.
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I'm not sure by what you mean. The launcher or the menus? They are both equal or faster on stock. No home button lag - install Jkay mod alpha for LI5 and you have that sorted as well. To me the stock android look is so poor and lacks in functionality. My Gnex on stock looks like it's an empty device with basic functionality only. It's a matter of preference I guess. I understand your point of view and wish cm9 and 10 were as fast as the stock samsung roms. They are not.
Not in the ui, not in apps. Battery life is also worse. Fact.
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I'm not sure by what you mean. The launcher or the menus? They are both equal or faster on stock. No home button lag - install Jkay mod alpha for LI5 and you have that sorted as well. To me the stock android look is so poor and lacks in functionality. My Gnex on stock looks like it's an empty device with basic functionality only. It's a matter of preference I guess. I understand your point of view and wish cm9 and 10 were as fast as the stock samsung roms. They are not.
Not in the ui, not in apps. Battery life is also worse. Fact.
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Generally I find everything on CM9 feels a lot faster. I have been on stock for most of my ownership of the S3 so I know what the stock OS feels like - whether that's with ICS or the Jellybean leaks (up to LI4). I suppose it's down to personal choice but I don't personally find any functionally to be lacking in the stock ROM on the Nexus 7. I think stock Android is beautiful and I hate the fact that Samsung feels the need to add replace perfectly good things with rubbish ones - like that crappy keyboard of theirs.
Why not at least leave the stock keyboard and the launcher installed and allow the choice for the layman. Things like Smart Stay are a bit of a gimmick, fine, and other things like the swipe to take a screenshot, S(hit)-Voice and other stupid sensor related 'features' are utter crap that no-one surely uses...for me though, the main problem is that Touchwiz is ugly. Everything from the SMS app to the uglified notification bar.
Anyway, each to their own.
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I'm still struggling with the keyboard on the sgs3 I have swift key trial currently but it would be nice to have the stock keys. Which keyboard would people recommend?
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btw what the difference between AOKP and AOSP ??
AOKP = android open kang project but I also don't know what is that =.=
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btw what the difference between AOKP and AOSP ??
AOKP = android open kang project but I also don't know what is that =.=
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Aosp is just pure Google stock experience while aokp add some additional features like theme chooser, customize layout and etc.
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I'm still struggling with the keyboard on the sgs3 I have swift key trial currently but it would be nice to have the stock keys. Which keyboard would people recommend?
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Swype. It is completely free and fast.
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The problem with Touchwiz is that is has serious lag. Open the Dialer and it takes a good second to open up. Same with all the UI its just slow.
It has a ton of good features such as slide to call and stuff but the lag is killing me.
Ok so i always hear a lot of people saying how they dislike touchwiz and that stock android is the best blah blah blah... So I was wondering, would you guys have preferred a note 2 with stock android and no S-pen or do you love it with touchwiz? I'm asking because I love touchwiz, I think its the best skin out there and it is a big reason why the note 2 is so awesome. But would you have preferred a note 2 with the same super AMOLED screen, same 3100mah battery but no spen, no touchwiz ( bye bye multi-window, spen features.....) running stock android?
Touchsh*t is slow and ugly as sh*t. That's why I delete touchwiz launcher and use Nova Prime launcher. Stock android iterface is much faster and smoother. Too bad that CyanogenMod for all samsung phones is very very unstable and buggy. I'm forced to use samsung official rom's with half touchwiz (with deleting touchwiz launcher). Will be great if someone can do normal non buggy CyanogenROM and port S Planner, S Note and Camera app into it.
Besides, multiwindows from Note 2 sucks. Look at Galaxy Note 10.1 multiwindows, I tried it at mobile store, it is great!
I've been running cm based roms since the first galaxy s (galaxy s, galaxy s2 note 1, galaxy s3, galaxy note 2), however, I made the switch back to touch wiz on my note today. Reasoning: I just feel it's more useful than a cm based rom on this device, and it's not as bad it use to be (believe me). So my vote goes to touch wiz ATM. Will I ever switch back to a cm based rom? Of course, but it's not a must have for me, for the first time.
*these are my options, I'm not basing anyone, or anything, and if you feel as if I insulted you...---- off (;*
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I hate TW, but CM is such unstable because of Sammy not releasing sources..
So I'm using TW.
I'm now waiting for MIUI V5, as its 100% stable and doesn't have TW look. (only features and base)
I don't hate Touchwiz but I'm using Nova Launcher Prime. And you don't lose very much with using a third party launcher. I can still use popup note, s-pen, multi window etc. My toggles in notification bar are still the same. I don't know what people are losing with using a third party launcher. It only adds to the phone.
TW is a framework, not just a launcher
Between those two, TW any day, any time. Stock Android is nothing but a hype.
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cm=fast+buggy (for now)
tw=a bit slow+stable
so own choice
for me as long as I can make call and play game, it doenst matter
I like TouchWiz(stock rom) as it's stable and quite fast. At the moment, CM based ROMs are too unstable.
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Touchsh*t is slow and ugly as sh*t. That's why I delete touchwiz launcher and use Nova Prime launcher. Stock android iterface is much faster and smoother. Too bad that CyanogenMod for all samsung phones is very very unstable and buggy. I'm forced to use samsung official rom's with half touchwiz (with deleting touchwiz launcher). Will be great if someone can do normal non buggy CyanogenROM and port S Planner, S Note and Camera app into it.
Besides, multiwindows from Note 2 sucks. Look at Galaxy Note 10.1 multiwindows, I tried it at mobile store, it is great!
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Touchwiz isn't just the launcher for Christ's sake. This is why Touchwiz gets all this hate, people not realising this simple point. Yes, the Touchwiz LAUNCHER is crappy and a lot of people including myself use one from the store, but Touchwiz itself with all its features is by far better than the featureless stock android (CM ect..)
Note 2 is my first Android device that I'm using completely stock...
I don't know why. ... I had many other android phones and tablets and all of them were flashed custon roms and kernels only couple of hours after purchase. ..
I love my note 2!
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Yup I use apex launcher and S pen multi window and all the features work in it I don't like touchwiz just try apex launcher. Its awesome and highly customisable with air view works in it and holo look. Touchwiz is not that customizable however its good for the ppl who wants simple , fast and easy UI.
I recommend using a launcher mainly with NOTE 2 use Nova and Apex.
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Yup I use apex launcher and S pen multi window and all the features work in it I don't like touchwiz just try apex launcher
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No warez allowed here. Reported.
All phones I've had previously I've always ran CM. Once I got the Note 2 didn't find it necessary. Phone runs great on TW and has great features that I actually use at work and home life. And the battery is just perfect.
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Besides, multiwindows from Note 2 sucks.
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What?!
I don't even know where to begin...
No. I will exercise restraint. IMO, multiwindow is and can be very helpful. Sure, it's much more useful on 10.1-inch screen, but that doesn't make it less useful on Note2 and its 5.5-inch screen. It's multitasking heaven IMO.
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Both are good...
Friends,
We are on Android, the most powerful OS currently on market (I think everybody in XDA will agree to this). Then why do you people worry. You can always switch back and forth between them.
You have Titanium Backup if you are rooted and even you have Carbon for unrooted device. So better give it a try for all the roms available. All of them are great. And i personally love CM 10.1 with all its additional customization features.
So i used to switch back and forth between them
And i also heard that some devs have started working on dual booting, but i am not sure about the recent updates on it.
I love both, and at the same time, yes, Stock on Note II is excellent.
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Yup I use apex launcher and S pen multi window and all the features work in it I don't like touchwiz just try apex launcher
No warez allowed here. Reported.
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@B3311 Please explain what you mean as apex launcher is not warez.
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Your poll leaves out another option and that is keep most of what it TouchWiz but add customization by using Nova.
I think by getting rid of touchwiz you're losing too much functionality with the phone. I've tried a few different roms and launchers. From completely different cm10.1 to just nova launcher and I always come back to touchwiz... There is no lag, from what I can tell, on touchwiz. Everything works the way it should. It's not worth it to lose the features that samsung added to this phone. If I wanted to do that I could have kept my note 1 running cm9.
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As you are well aware, Blackmarket Alpha is a warez site. Your editing skills are marvellous. Idiot.
AOKP (or CM, or AOSPA..) all the way. Retains the functionality of the S-Pen and only loses multiwindow, which I don't find useful anyway. Also, it allows me to use the latest version of Android (4.2.2) which has a useful account manager that lets my friends use a completely separate account from me.
I don't necessarily dislike Touchwiz but it's not as aesthetically pleasing, and I have a hard time understanding why it's about 500MB heavier than AOSP.
After a tried & true CM guy (running it on my 3 tablets, 3 different phones), I'm not sure I can stand to lose some of the features that TW provides (unless of course they were runnable in AOSP):
- voice control of lock screen/camera
- air gestures
- all the S4 specific sensors
- and one lil thing I've come to like more than swiping between pages in the app draw: the pagination dots! I've come to really like those, especially since I've got like 8 pages of apps
I just wish I had the look of AOSP, configurability, control, etc.
One TW thing that irks me: apps drawer on the far right & not movable.
I use Nova launcher which lets you customize the look quite a bit. And all the TW goodies are still available.
I like touch wiz it ain't bad over all especially with some tweaking.
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Didn't like it when I got my epic 4g, but I got used to it after awhile.
After 4 years with Sence, I'm loving the look and features of TW.
I'm getting used to it. I got sick of Sense so its nice to have a change anyway. I just hate how resource hoggy it is.
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I use Nova launcher which lets you customize the look quite a bit. And all the TW goodies are still available.
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Great suggestion. I've got both Nova and Go launchers on my phone, and like what they do for me w/o messing with TW. I like Go a little better because it rotates the home screens with the device, something Nova does not.
I'm a fan of TW so far. I also came from the HTC Sense world, and while there are pluses and minuses to both, I'm overall happier with TW.
I really like the small things like the swiping texting or call when I contact lists, the direct call when you have a contact pulled up.
I like the number of texts, email or missed calls displayed on the app
So i have definitely grown to like tiuchwiz
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yea i love touch wiz and sense.. this is my 2 samsung phone.. i was with htc for a while.. i like the change.. i hate aosp.. i just cant get used to it..
I love TW!!! Coming from every rom you can find on my Evo3d the GS4 rocks!
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Great suggestion. I've got both Nova and Go launchers on my phone, and like what they do for me w/o messing with TW. I like Go a little better because it rotates the home screens with the device, something Nova does not.
I'm a fan of TW so far. I also came from the HTC Sense world, and while there are pluses and minuses to both, I'm overall happier with TW.
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For the record Nova lets you rotate your home screen as well.
I have never understood to intense hatred that still exists for TW. True at one point it was a smothering overlay that killed performance but now it is a smooth "MOD" that I like more than "Pure" android especially since Samsung's best goodies live on TW.
Let the flames begin!
This is the 11th Android phone I've owned, and for the first time ever I'm not in any hurry to flash an AOSP rom. TW really does offer a lot of features that I would miss if I went to AOSP. I'll probably try CM when we have a stable build, but in the meantime I really couldn't be more happy with this phone as it came out of the box.
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Thanks! I figured out where to select it. So now I'm back on Nova. But both are great launchers.
Me! I love TouchWiz from the SIII and onwards!
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Now if only TouchWiz + Halo together...
I was a big sense UI fan from the hero, Evo, Evo shift. I always kepts it on Sense ui even tho CM was a hell of a lot fast on it and didnt kill the battery as much. I liked the look and feel of sense ui. Then i went to the Sii and took some getting use to and since the SII i went to the SIII and now on the S4 and I have grown to love it. I still have Nova Launcher for a quick change if i get bored but i always end up back on TW.
The one thing I can't stand is the fact that the location of the app drawer is fixed.. If it weren't I would at least consider not using Holo Launcher
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Now if only TouchWiz + Halo together...
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I'd sh!t my pants... I PRAY that it come true soon. With all these amazing devs I wouldn't be surprised!
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I'd sh!t my pants... I PRAY that it come true soon. With all these amazing devs I wouldn't be surprised!
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I would think it'd be possible, depending on what TouchWiz does under the covers.
Really, I actually *like* TouchWiz on the S4. I haven't started playing with any ROM's even though I'm now rooted because I like the functionality I have and I'm afraid I'd lose it.
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I would think it'd be possible, depending on what TouchWiz does under the covers.
Really, I actually *like* TouchWiz on the S4. I haven't started playing with any ROM's even though I'm now rooted because I like the functionality I have and I'm afraid I'd lose it.
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TW custom ROMs have all of the TouchWiz features... hence why they are TouchWiz ROMs lol.
Hello, I've been using custom Touchwiz ROM (Goldeneye for Telus) and it occasionally stutters at various points such as opening app or folder, etc. It's very minor but considering that it's a new phone, I was a little disappointed. Then I tried the Google Edition and it is seriously lacking on features. It's snappier but there's no toggles for notification, can't quickly clear out opened apps, can't create folders in app drawer (I like to organize them), camera isn't as good as the Touchwiz due to features - I also like it that I can record a video by clicking the button on screen, and a few minor details that I can't remember now.
So is there any benefit of using Google Rom over custom Touchwiz rom other than it being snappier? Does anyone prefer Google Rom? MOD EDIT: NO BEST ROM QUESTIONS
Every user is different. So it's best to try different ones and see which you like best.
I prefer the Google ROMS (stock android) because it has no bloat, pretty fast and snappy, and looks premium, clean, and (IMO) amazing. I don't normally use TW ROMS mainly because of the looks and bloat. For example, I'm not a fan of the toggles in the notification bar, so I got stock android and had a clean and efficient notification bar. Many of the "S" features I never used , so I thought I might as well get rid of them.
Camera is something I would actually use TW for, but since I don't take many photos it didn't seem necessary (for me at least).
As for creating folders and stuff, use a custom launcher, they'll have more features than the stock launchers on both.
However this all does come down to preference, if you value the features, stick with TW, if you value a premium look and feel, use stock Android ROMS. Best part is that you can switch between both anytime you like, just make backups. (I switched every 15 days on my S3 so I got the best of both). Since Modaco Switch will be coming to the S4 (i337 also I hope), it will be even easier to switch between the two, and enjoy both types of ROMS.
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jd1639 said:
Every user is different. So it's best to try different ones and see which you like best.
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Ya, I just tried the Google Edition rom today and.. It feels that I have to try very hard to like the rom. Do people usually use a different launcher to make it somewhat more user friendly? I mean... I like stock feeling and all.. But it's seriously lacking on some features.
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I prefer the Google ROMS (stock android) because it has no bloat, pretty fast and snappy, and looks premium, clean, and (IMO) amazing. I don't normally use TW ROMS mainly because of the looks and bloat. For example, I'm not a fan of the toggles in the notification bar, so I got stock android and had a clean and efficient notification bar. Many of the "S" features I never used , so I thought I might as well get rid of them.
Camera is something I would actually use TW for, but since I don't take many photos it didn't seem necessary (for me at least).
As for creating folders and stuff, use a custom launcher, they'll have more features than the stock launchers on both.
However this all does come down to preference, if you value the features, stick with TW, if you value a premium look and feel, use stock Android ROMS. Best part is that you can switch between both anytime you like, just make backups. (I switched every 15 days on my S3 so I got the best of both). Since Modaco Switch will be coming to the S4 (i337 also I hope), it will be even easier to switch between the two, and enjoy both types of ROMS.
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Mmm. I'm interested in using a launcher but I have no idea what they do lol. I'm very new, coming from an iPhone, so I still have to adapt to Android - It's a great switch! Loving the larger screen, removable battery and expendable memory! Do you have any suggestion about which launcher provides the most features? Are they generally super stable and do they consume more battery than the default settings? Thanks!
Try apex or nova launcher. Both let you do folders in the app drawer.
A aosp ROM like CyanogenMod gets rid of the bloat and make the phone faster but still retain notification toggles.
I put cm on my s4 the day I got it. Its very fast and smooth.
sbddude said:
Try apex or nova launcher. Both let you do folders in the app drawer.
A aosp ROM like CyanogenMod gets rid of the bloat and make the phone faster but still retain notification toggles.
I put cm on my s4 the day I got it. Its very fast and smooth.
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Yeah, I considered AOSP roms too. However, there isn't a stable 4.3 CM or AOKP yet and I would like to switch to the newest possible OS since I have to set up every again. I also read something regarding AOSP camera being sub par comparaing to touchwiz or GE firmware - Not sure if it's all just a myth..
I'll most definitely checkout these launchers. Seems interesting. Thanks.
Nova Launcher is what I use, tons of customizations, very stable, and not really any different battery consumption. You should try all the popular launchers and see what you like. For some cool 3D ones check out Next Launcher, and for other ones apex, Holo, and ADW are popular. Atom launcher is a cool one too. Try all of them and see which one you'll like, they all are unique ;D
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Nova Launcher is what I use, tons of customizations, very stable, and not really any different battery consumption. You should try all the popular launchers and see what you like. For some cool 3D ones check out Next Launcher, and for other ones apex, Holo, and ADW are popular. Atom launcher is a cool one too. Try all of them and see which one you'll like, they all are unique ;D
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Yum. Launcher on Google Edition rom might work well. Time to try it out. Thanks!
Aukaminator said:
.... since I have to set up every again. ...
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Titanium Back up takes care of that. Going to the S3 to the S4 took only a little but of setup. It backups all of your apps and their data across OS upgrades.
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Titanium Back up takes care of that. Going to the S3 to the S4 took only a little but of setup. It backups all of your apps and their data across OS upgrades.
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I have problems getting notifications to work properly with some apps when I restore data also, so I usually just restore the apps (except for games and stuff where I don't want to lose progress and don't care about notifications anyway).
As for whether I like stock Android better or not the answer is a definitive yes. When I got my S4 I used it as is only until I could get back to my computer and flash a custom recovery and a new ROM (CM 10.2 at the moment). Yeah, there are some features that you lose, but for me they are gimmicky and unnecessary (I emphasize me because I recognize that some people really do like the TW stuff and like I always say: good for you, that's what Android is ultimately all about). Stock Android, on the other hand, looks good, is functional, is fast, and works the way I want/expect it to.
I also happen to think that TW is butt ugly, but that's purely subjective.
I haven't tried one of the GE ROMs yet but CyanogenMod gets close enough with extra features that I like (do not disturb, anyone?) so that's what I tend to gravitate towards. There is nothing wrong with going either way, of course, and ultimately it boils down to what you want from your phone. Again, that to me is a big part of what makes Android so damn appealing (and why locked bootloaders and anti-tweaking efforts piss me off).
It is stable, but if you like bland, and lack of features, then it would be the os to use...
TheAxman said:
It is stable, but if you like bland, and lack of features, then it would be the os to use...
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Hah, no bias here at all.
The Google "Experience"
Having tried both a custom TW rom and a GE rom, I have to give the TW roms the win.
This is why:
1) The dialer is pretty bad, I'm not a fan of deciphering hieroglyphics to determine how to navigate the dialer. Also the contacts app UI is awful.
2) The GE launcher lacks features offered in free editions of 3rd party launchers.
3) The stock email program and widgets are not as good or as functional as the Samsung email program and S Planner.
4) I actually like being able to turn on/off wi-fi and BT without having to navigate menus and/or install space and memory hogging widgets.
5) Multi-window is pretty awesome.
6) The GE/CM ROMS have some pretty showstopping bugs with BT, microphone issues during calls, random reboots, etc.
As someone already mentioned earlier about its personal preference. I myself tried to hard to like GE rom, but couldn't because of lots of things that I use on TW is missing. The only thing I ever missed was photosphere feature, and that issue got solved by installing GE camera app. Regarding smoothness, it's not bad at all, and this is coming from a guy who has seen worst from froyo times to super good with JB. Also, you can disable lots of bloat even if you are not rooted. But of course people who come here are not the one who likes to do things without rooting their device and once you root, you can disable all the bloat tou want. But until and unless you try for yourself, it's hard to know what you'll miss from either of the rom.
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mcapozzi said:
Having tried both a custom TW rom and a GE rom, I have to give the TW roms the win.
4) I actually like being able to turn on/off wi-fi and BT without having to navigate menus and/or install space and memory hogging widgets.
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You can drag down the notification bar with two fingers and long press on wifi and bluetooth to toggle them on/off.
I come from two years of using a nexus devices. I got this phone for free, otherwise I would still be using the galaxy nexus. I miss the easy flashing, fastboot etc. This phone will last me till next fall and at that time, I'll move to the nexus 6
Needless to say, I use a bone stock ge Rom with nova launcher.
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I would prefer to use the GE ROM over Touchwiz but for whatever reason I can't find a single browser that doesn't stutter horribly as compared to aosp ROMs. For that reason alone I am using CM 10.2.
calvin35 said:
I would prefer to use the GE ROM over Touchwiz but for whatever reason I can't find a single browser that doesn't stutter horribly as compared to aosp ROMs. For that reason alone I am using CM 10.2.
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You've probably tried these popular choices.. But I use Dolphin browser and its performance is pretty close to stock AOSP browser with some nice added features. I've also tried Firefox and it's pretty damn close! But either way, try the beta versions of the two and see if you like them. .
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