Hello, I've been using custom Touchwiz ROM (Goldeneye for Telus) and it occasionally stutters at various points such as opening app or folder, etc. It's very minor but considering that it's a new phone, I was a little disappointed. Then I tried the Google Edition and it is seriously lacking on features. It's snappier but there's no toggles for notification, can't quickly clear out opened apps, can't create folders in app drawer (I like to organize them), camera isn't as good as the Touchwiz due to features - I also like it that I can record a video by clicking the button on screen, and a few minor details that I can't remember now.
So is there any benefit of using Google Rom over custom Touchwiz rom other than it being snappier? Does anyone prefer Google Rom? MOD EDIT: NO BEST ROM QUESTIONS
Every user is different. So it's best to try different ones and see which you like best.
I prefer the Google ROMS (stock android) because it has no bloat, pretty fast and snappy, and looks premium, clean, and (IMO) amazing. I don't normally use TW ROMS mainly because of the looks and bloat. For example, I'm not a fan of the toggles in the notification bar, so I got stock android and had a clean and efficient notification bar. Many of the "S" features I never used , so I thought I might as well get rid of them.
Camera is something I would actually use TW for, but since I don't take many photos it didn't seem necessary (for me at least).
As for creating folders and stuff, use a custom launcher, they'll have more features than the stock launchers on both.
However this all does come down to preference, if you value the features, stick with TW, if you value a premium look and feel, use stock Android ROMS. Best part is that you can switch between both anytime you like, just make backups. (I switched every 15 days on my S3 so I got the best of both). Since Modaco Switch will be coming to the S4 (i337 also I hope), it will be even easier to switch between the two, and enjoy both types of ROMS.
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Every user is different. So it's best to try different ones and see which you like best.
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Ya, I just tried the Google Edition rom today and.. It feels that I have to try very hard to like the rom. Do people usually use a different launcher to make it somewhat more user friendly? I mean... I like stock feeling and all.. But it's seriously lacking on some features.
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I prefer the Google ROMS (stock android) because it has no bloat, pretty fast and snappy, and looks premium, clean, and (IMO) amazing. I don't normally use TW ROMS mainly because of the looks and bloat. For example, I'm not a fan of the toggles in the notification bar, so I got stock android and had a clean and efficient notification bar. Many of the "S" features I never used , so I thought I might as well get rid of them.
Camera is something I would actually use TW for, but since I don't take many photos it didn't seem necessary (for me at least).
As for creating folders and stuff, use a custom launcher, they'll have more features than the stock launchers on both.
However this all does come down to preference, if you value the features, stick with TW, if you value a premium look and feel, use stock Android ROMS. Best part is that you can switch between both anytime you like, just make backups. (I switched every 15 days on my S3 so I got the best of both). Since Modaco Switch will be coming to the S4 (i337 also I hope), it will be even easier to switch between the two, and enjoy both types of ROMS.
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Mmm. I'm interested in using a launcher but I have no idea what they do lol. I'm very new, coming from an iPhone, so I still have to adapt to Android - It's a great switch! Loving the larger screen, removable battery and expendable memory! Do you have any suggestion about which launcher provides the most features? Are they generally super stable and do they consume more battery than the default settings? Thanks!
Try apex or nova launcher. Both let you do folders in the app drawer.
A aosp ROM like CyanogenMod gets rid of the bloat and make the phone faster but still retain notification toggles.
I put cm on my s4 the day I got it. Its very fast and smooth.
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Try apex or nova launcher. Both let you do folders in the app drawer.
A aosp ROM like CyanogenMod gets rid of the bloat and make the phone faster but still retain notification toggles.
I put cm on my s4 the day I got it. Its very fast and smooth.
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Yeah, I considered AOSP roms too. However, there isn't a stable 4.3 CM or AOKP yet and I would like to switch to the newest possible OS since I have to set up every again. I also read something regarding AOSP camera being sub par comparaing to touchwiz or GE firmware - Not sure if it's all just a myth..
I'll most definitely checkout these launchers. Seems interesting. Thanks.
Nova Launcher is what I use, tons of customizations, very stable, and not really any different battery consumption. You should try all the popular launchers and see what you like. For some cool 3D ones check out Next Launcher, and for other ones apex, Holo, and ADW are popular. Atom launcher is a cool one too. Try all of them and see which one you'll like, they all are unique ;D
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Nova Launcher is what I use, tons of customizations, very stable, and not really any different battery consumption. You should try all the popular launchers and see what you like. For some cool 3D ones check out Next Launcher, and for other ones apex, Holo, and ADW are popular. Atom launcher is a cool one too. Try all of them and see which one you'll like, they all are unique ;D
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Yum. Launcher on Google Edition rom might work well. Time to try it out. Thanks!
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.... since I have to set up every again. ...
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Titanium Back up takes care of that. Going to the S3 to the S4 took only a little but of setup. It backups all of your apps and their data across OS upgrades.
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Titanium Back up takes care of that. Going to the S3 to the S4 took only a little but of setup. It backups all of your apps and their data across OS upgrades.
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I have problems getting notifications to work properly with some apps when I restore data also, so I usually just restore the apps (except for games and stuff where I don't want to lose progress and don't care about notifications anyway).
As for whether I like stock Android better or not the answer is a definitive yes. When I got my S4 I used it as is only until I could get back to my computer and flash a custom recovery and a new ROM (CM 10.2 at the moment). Yeah, there are some features that you lose, but for me they are gimmicky and unnecessary (I emphasize me because I recognize that some people really do like the TW stuff and like I always say: good for you, that's what Android is ultimately all about). Stock Android, on the other hand, looks good, is functional, is fast, and works the way I want/expect it to.
I also happen to think that TW is butt ugly, but that's purely subjective.
I haven't tried one of the GE ROMs yet but CyanogenMod gets close enough with extra features that I like (do not disturb, anyone?) so that's what I tend to gravitate towards. There is nothing wrong with going either way, of course, and ultimately it boils down to what you want from your phone. Again, that to me is a big part of what makes Android so damn appealing (and why locked bootloaders and anti-tweaking efforts piss me off).
It is stable, but if you like bland, and lack of features, then it would be the os to use...
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It is stable, but if you like bland, and lack of features, then it would be the os to use...
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Hah, no bias here at all.
The Google "Experience"
Having tried both a custom TW rom and a GE rom, I have to give the TW roms the win.
This is why:
1) The dialer is pretty bad, I'm not a fan of deciphering hieroglyphics to determine how to navigate the dialer. Also the contacts app UI is awful.
2) The GE launcher lacks features offered in free editions of 3rd party launchers.
3) The stock email program and widgets are not as good or as functional as the Samsung email program and S Planner.
4) I actually like being able to turn on/off wi-fi and BT without having to navigate menus and/or install space and memory hogging widgets.
5) Multi-window is pretty awesome.
6) The GE/CM ROMS have some pretty showstopping bugs with BT, microphone issues during calls, random reboots, etc.
As someone already mentioned earlier about its personal preference. I myself tried to hard to like GE rom, but couldn't because of lots of things that I use on TW is missing. The only thing I ever missed was photosphere feature, and that issue got solved by installing GE camera app. Regarding smoothness, it's not bad at all, and this is coming from a guy who has seen worst from froyo times to super good with JB. Also, you can disable lots of bloat even if you are not rooted. But of course people who come here are not the one who likes to do things without rooting their device and once you root, you can disable all the bloat tou want. But until and unless you try for yourself, it's hard to know what you'll miss from either of the rom.
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Having tried both a custom TW rom and a GE rom, I have to give the TW roms the win.
4) I actually like being able to turn on/off wi-fi and BT without having to navigate menus and/or install space and memory hogging widgets.
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You can drag down the notification bar with two fingers and long press on wifi and bluetooth to toggle them on/off.
I come from two years of using a nexus devices. I got this phone for free, otherwise I would still be using the galaxy nexus. I miss the easy flashing, fastboot etc. This phone will last me till next fall and at that time, I'll move to the nexus 6
Needless to say, I use a bone stock ge Rom with nova launcher.
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I would prefer to use the GE ROM over Touchwiz but for whatever reason I can't find a single browser that doesn't stutter horribly as compared to aosp ROMs. For that reason alone I am using CM 10.2.
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I would prefer to use the GE ROM over Touchwiz but for whatever reason I can't find a single browser that doesn't stutter horribly as compared to aosp ROMs. For that reason alone I am using CM 10.2.
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You've probably tried these popular choices.. But I use Dolphin browser and its performance is pretty close to stock AOSP browser with some nice added features. I've also tried Firefox and it's pretty damn close! But either way, try the beta versions of the two and see if you like them. .
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Ok, so this is not only for Viper users, this is for everyone, on any ROM. Please don't post things like "working gps" because the devs can't do anything right now. But what features would you like in a ROM? ...This will give us an idea for updates... if something is needed by enough people, I'm sure everyon
e will incorporate it into their ROMs...
And the rest is up to you.....
I love the VIPERrom 3.0.3. Things about it- stability, speed (I think), custom launcher (zeam launcher). I'd like a cool notif bar. I'm currently using emotionless beast from Mystery. But the 3.0.3 was cool too. To each his own, but I like the colors and such in my themes. And lightweight (keep the bloatware to a minimum).
Keep up the good work Viper team. I tried Apocalypse 4.0.2c for a couple days but went back to trinity 3.0.3. Had a couple problems that I was too lazy to work through. All my fault. I'll go back to 4.0.2c soon.
I look for a rom that cuts as much crap out that I don't need and incorporates as much stuff that I do. This isn't always possible because of individual tastes, but some cookers are better(for me) than others. I also look at theming, which needs to look professional, for me to consider it.
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A working gps
Seriously I'm looking for something fast, stable, functionality, good battery life. Obviously looks mean nothing to me. A small foot print on internal memory is good also
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I dont know about everyone else but im tired of TWLauncher, Launcher pro, Zeam launcher, Launcher EX. I wish there was a stable, fast but Unique Launcher that has a layout, Transitions, icons different then what we are use too. Honestly i have no clue what "Unique" that im talking about but there are tons of genius minds in here that im sure will come up with some New and Different from what we are use to in all of these launchers that will give our Phone a NEW Look. Thanks alot Viper Team you all are awesome
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I dont know about everyone else but im tired of TWLauncher, Launcher pro, Zeam launcher, Launcher EX. I wish there was a stable, fast but Unique Launcher that has a layout, Transitions, icons different then what we are use too. Honestly i have no clue what "Unique" that im talking about but there are tons of genius minds in here that im sure will come up with some New and Different from what we are use to in all of these launchers that will give our Phone a NEW Look. Thanks alot Viper Team you all are awesome
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+1 I would also like a unique launcher. Maybe something similar to Miui.
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I want support for RFS. Seems almost everyone is making the switch to EXT4 but luckily there are a few that still support those of us using RFS! Other than that I like having Touchwiz stripped out. I always wanted it before but after using Midnight Rom I just don't want it anymore. I bought ADW EX and that's the way for me to go!
Although I'm not running ViperROM, I love the idea behind the viperstore. Regardless of what ROM thread you're in, you see people asking for AOSP lockscreens, themes, certain APK's, etc. I think that with the relatively small community of devoted developers for the epic, there could be a common repository for people to go to for their personalization needs.
Just food for thought. Keep up the good work on ViperROM!
Straight aosp.
Deodexed.
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I want my device to be classy with simple elegance. I dont want annoying boot sounds and shutdown sounds, or theming which advertises the name of the rom. I want a rom that is rock solid stable, ie no DK28. I want touchwiz ripped out and no launcher included. I should not have to uninstall anything from a fresh rom install, especially various launchers.
CIFS support for mounting network folders.
Increase network speeds on 3g, becaue data government killer just not doing it for me.
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to control volume of both notifications and ringer at the same time with the rocker switch.
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to control volume of both notifications and ringer at the same time with the rocker switch.
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seriously.. this..
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seriously.. this..
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+1 for this.
In addition..
No Launcher (or a very unique one like what was mentioned earlier)
no sprint bloatware.
minimal memory footprint.
Great battery life.
Somehow increased speeds for the data cuz for me the governor killer isn't doing much either.
no annoying startup/shutdown sounds (could be muted)
Slick but professional theming.
No more bubble SMS
stock battery icon. (seems like all the circle ones ping the battery info too often and it kills my battery. Like dropping 25% overnight doing nothing with no widgets installed whatsoever.)
I'm tired of repackaged Roms that just have a different theme and maybe one or two things taken out or added in that I could do myself.
I like a clean slate rom like Naked Bonsai and add the themes and addons myself. I like Midnight just because they got rid of touchwiz. I wish ViperROM would not come with all the themes built in. Undervolting and unique features are nice as well.
So basically, I want clean and stable with themes belonging in the theme section and a nice bunch of addons. I honestly doubt we're gonna be having many unique Roms till kernel source comes out though
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I'm tired of repackaged Roms that just have a different theme and maybe one or two things taken out or added in that I could do myself.
I like a clean slate rom like Naked Bonsai and add the themes and addons myself. I like Midnight just because they got rid of touchwiz. I wish ViperROM would not come with all the themes built in. Undervolting and unique features are nice as well.
So basically, I want clean and stable with themes belonging in the theme section and a nice bunch of addons. I honestly doubt we're gonna be having many unique Roms till kernel source comes out though
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I agree about ViperROM theming. I would prefer more of a blank slate. But the developer is free to make their rom however they want. I just have to not complain and change it myself
I just want a stock rom. No custom launcher, no sprint apps, no touchwiz, just stock. Maybe overclocked to 1.2ghz, but stock and built in tethering support (doesn't have to wifi, I can deal with usb) cause paying extra for the same data is bull****.
You want a clean slate,wait till you see Frankenstien FROYO tomorrow night,its 93mb zipped right now,and I'm still working on it,but it is very stable from the start,I'm very excited to be releasing this...
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I would like it to be easier to see what I'm getting before I download a new rom. Seems like there are a lot of cases where if you weren't using a rom from the start it's kinda hard to track down all it's features and what it's like.
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as i believe the short answer is NO
unless in one case, using CM7.
Just install a different launcher. Most of the apps they modified are actually pretty nice in their TouchWiz versions, otherwise wait for an AOSP ROM. There are always solutions to problems.
This is why we have XDA. Someone will bake a vanilla ROM.
The concept of giving us vanilla Android without crapware is actually one that eludes practically every Android phone manufacturer, not just Samsung.
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The concept of giving us vanilla Android without crapware is actually one that eludes practically every Android phone manufacturer, not just Samsung.
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Yeah, it's kind of annoying in a way, but in a way it's the spirit of Android. Android is open and allows anyone to modify it how they choose. The manufacturers use it as a way to brand the devices in their own way, but it is kind of annoying when their UIs are bloated and slow. Now that we are moving to dual core with more memory, the speed will be less of an issue regardless of the launcher you use, so it will make it better at least. I've never found TouchWiz to be overly offensive, but it certainly isn't the fastest.
I want touchwiz enhancements, are you kidding! Nicer dialer, nice MMS, nice little brightness adjustment shortcut, nicer camera. A gingerbread launcher will help get the phone to look like you want it to, and obviously, custom ROMs will make it feel like gingerbread AOSP.
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I want touchwiz enhancements, are you kidding! Nicer dialer, nice MMS, nice little brightness adjustment shortcut, nicer camera. A gingerbread launcher will help get the phone to look like you want it to, and obviously, custom ROMs will make it feel like gingerbread AOSP.
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That's my opinion. A lot of the TW apps are nice, I just don't like the launcher, so a simple install of LauncherPro and we're ready to go!
A TouchWiz ROM that functions properly beats the snot out of CM any day.
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A TouchWiz ROM that functions properly beats the snot out of CM any day.
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Agreed. What's the point on using stock android. Plain Android which camera app suck.ass and media player too. Its frikin boring. Tw its not bad. Has cool features
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i am hoping for htc sense either the hd one or the ginger sense
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And yet Crapwiz continues to run and eat up resources.
They need to give users the option to disable Crapwiz completely or better yet, ship it stock. Put Crapwiz on the Marketplace alongside ADW and LauncherPro and let people install their crap if they want to. Not force it on people.
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I'm pretty sure the TouchWiz launcher doesn't run if you set another launcher as default. I haven't even had a ROM with TouchWiz in it for so long that I can't say for sure though.
The touchwiz launcher will run unless you root and delete it from system/app. All the other touchwiz enhancements will still work and honestly are the best part of touchwiz. The launcher is the only part I don't like, and only because it is known to be laggy/battery hog.
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The touchwiz launcher will run unless you root and delete it from system/app. All the other touchwiz enhancements will still work and honestly are the best part of touchwiz. The launcher is the only part I don't like, and only because it is known to be laggy/battery hog.
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The launcher it comes with is the least difficult thing to fix. Replace it with the Android one or any other and you're good to go.
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I prefer touch wiz with different launcher such as launcher pro or adw ex. Samsung widgets suck but media player, lock screen, status bar enhancements are great.
Exchange email client is also much better then the stock one.
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Just install a different launcher. Most of the apps they modified are actually pretty nice in their TouchWiz versions, otherwise wait for an AOSP ROM. There are always solutions to problems.
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Second that
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I actually like TW, I've tried other launchers and always end up loading TW as my default launcher again.
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I actually like TW, I've tried other launchers and always end up loading TW as my default launcher again.
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I like GTG TouchWiz launcher, but the stock launcher is way too laggy.
With all of the free and paid launchers out their would you prefer the Samsung Epic come with or without Touchwiz framework.
Personally dont care for the launcher but I like the little things like the task manager which is light weight and the quick panel toggles and little things like that. They're not a deal breaker for me but they're nice to have. Also some of the apps tied around TW are really nice like the camara, video player and music app. Those actually might be the most important to me anyway. Just my 2 cents.
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I like the fact when you have a AOSP Rom you can have more custom Roms and Kernals. AOSP rom can use the camera, music player and video player too. Plus you don't have to wait for Samsung to come out with the source code for updates. Since Samsung knows it own drivers they can make a pure google phone with full functionality. But hey if touchwiz is important to you then vote on it. Touch wiz has some benefits too.
I like the functionality tw adds(task manager, music controls in various places, codec support, etc), but I wish it was implemented better.
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Doesn't the TW framework add cpu optimization and stuff? you mean the Touch Wiz launcher?
Realistically speaking I think they should load it up with TW, but give users an easy way to go ASOP if they choose. Personally the TouchWiz launcher is great for the average individual, its simple and clean ui.
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Doesn't the TW framework add cpu optimization and stuff? you mean the Touch Wiz launcher?
Realistically speaking I think they should load it up with TW, but give users an easy way to go ASOP if they choose. Personally the TouchWiz launcher is great for the average individual, its simple and clean ui.
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I think they should have made the drivers independent of Touchwiz. Our developers have to rewrite all the drivers just so we can get an AOSP rom to work, I think this is non-sense. It also makes the samsung epic the last to get updates. On one hand we like the cpu optimization but one the other hand we complain when the when it takes 3 to 4 months later to get updates. We can have it both ways. If you like the cpu optimization then you should expect the updates to take longer you should also expect incompatibly as well.
only thing i like about tw is the camera.. which i can get over, i dislike anything that isnt pure google....i miss my OG droid..
I miss one thing about touchwiz, and that's dragging my finger across a text convo and automaticly calling them. The Nexus S is the finest phone I've ever owned, I will never buy another phone that isn't 100 percent Google.
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I don't think I can live without the adjustable brightness bar at the top.
I'm looking forward to official gb release to have tw again. I actually find myself missing it.
I just want a "new and improved EPIC"
I'd prefer it without TW. I think it looks gawdy.
Lack of customization, and it not being a "sense-quality" launcher, I'll stick to Launcher Pro until I find something better. ADW, GoLauncher, arc launcher, even dell stage I've tried, launcher pro beats everything.
Another vote for launcher pro. Best launcher out there.
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Are the widgets in the pulldown notification area part of TouchWiz? If so, I'd prefer touchwiz.
Don't really care what they put on. I'll ****-can it immediately for go launcher
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Tw4 ftw
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We aren't talking about launchers people...we're talking about the true touchwiz, the deep down stuff that adds functionality to the device.
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
Guys think about it, it would be a new phone meaning it would come with TW4, and I don't know about you guys but it looks pretty sexy.
I'm using the TW4 launcher and icons and must say it's looking great.
And I'm sure the rest of TW4 on the SGS2 is amazing.
You've all seen the leaked images of the Within, right?
Oh the excitement.
I will never buy another phone with TouchWiz unless it already has official CM on it. Same goes for all other crappy UIs. Its either CM7+ or a Nexus from here on out.
i see thread after thread just spewing out hate for touchwiz..
how can so many of you not like touchwiz, lemme correct that *HATE touchwiz... i realize its the hip thing to do, to hate touchwiz, and you somehow think it makes you look pro, or cool, or like you know what youre talking about, but touchwiz rocks.. most of you havent even seen what the alternative is, you just hate it cause everyone else does.
do you realize losing touchwiz loses:
*built in screen capture by pressing home+lock
*task manager built into long press
*swipe left/right to call/text in contacts/dialer/texts
*toggles in drop down menu
*amazing UI in camera/file manager/ music player
*ability to adjust display options, beyond what stock roms are capable of
*swype
* ability to adjust brightness by moving dropbar back and forth
* the option to use the actual touchwiz launcher
* Divx, Xvid, and .avi support out of the box, as well as other formats supported only by samsung
*S-Voice
*Eye Tracking
*Smart Stay, keeps the screen awake while you're looking at the display
*Popup Play
its not like having a stock rom gives you anything in place of these.. if you dont like the touchwiz launcher, you can install another one, nova, apex, go, adw, adw ex, i cant see why ppl are soo determined to get rid of it, and have nothing in its place. would you really rather have no options, in place of where you DID have options?
answer now is not anymore or don't hate it that much anymore.
I don't hate the touch wize, I hate the touchwize launcher and i miss all my touchwize apps, I actually wish I could have to touchwize framework on my custome ics rom just with a another launcher
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If you dont change to an AOSP ROM, only change the launcher, you dont loose those features, right
The bulk of what you mention can be built in to custom ROMs
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If you dont change to an AOSP ROM, only change the launcher, you dont loose those features, right
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Right, but I am on a aosp rom, and sadly tw is not enough to make me leave it.
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The bulk of what you mention can be built in to custom ROMs
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The day I find one for my phone I'll let u know
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The day I find one for my phone I'll let u know
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What phone do you have
I was in CyanogenMod before ICS, now back to Samsung based ROM, but I replaced the bad AOSP apps, like phone and SMS with others from the market as nice or nicer than TW´s
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What phone do you have
I was in CyanogenMod before ICS, now back to Samsung based ROM, but I replaced the bad AOSP apps, like phone and SMS with others from the market as nice or nicer than TW´s
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I got the Samsung GS I know about the market replacements but I want the organal, so far I got the clock and the task manger to work on my dark Knight 5.5, I am gonna try s voice tomorrow
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I really am hoping that I will like the new version of Touchwiz! If I can change the icons in the dock and on the homescreens as well as the size of the grid on the homescreen, then I see myself using it on my phone. If I can't do both of those things, then I'm using Apex.
I don't want to stare at the default dock icons all day long, they are way too cartoony and colorful for me. But yeah, if I can change ALL the icons in Touchwiz, slap a nice and dark wallpaper on there and get some Metrostation/Minimal Text goodness going... I would LOVE to use Touchwiz, because I always try to install as few third-party apps and stuff on my phones. I'm just afraid that it won't allow me the level of customization that I want. Lucky for me Android is about options, so I can have an alternative launcher on my phone within 2 minutes if I want.
So for me it's not about trying to be cool and hip. Those things come naturally to me.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think ditching Touchwiz will affect like half of the things on your little list there?
EDIT: Task manager, swiping left/right in contacts, drop down toggles, camera UI, swype, brightness control, popup play and certainly Divx, Xvid, and .avi support... I don't see those being controlled by what launcher you use? I could be wrong though
Most of that stuff isnt anything to do with TW at all. Most of it is in stand alone apps that will work whether you use TW as a launcher or not. I will be using Apex launcher and i will still have all the Samsung extras.
AOSP, Cyanogen and AOKP ROMS are over rated, most are slower than custom ROMs based on Samsung stock, they have missing or broken features and are often unstable. I dont see the point in getting a phone like the S3 and putting inferior software on it, why not just buy a Nexus to start with? The best ROMs are custom ROMs based on stock, optimised and free of the truly useless bloat.
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Most of that stuff isnt anything to do with TW at all. Most of it is in stand alone apps that will work whether you use TW as a launcher or not. I will be using Apex launcher and i will still have all the Samsung extras.
AOSP, Cyanogen and AOKP ROMS are over rated, most are slower than custom ROMs based on Samsung stock, they have missing or broken features and are often unstable. I dont see the point in getting a phone like the S3 and putting inferior software on it, why not just buy a Nexus to start with? The best ROMs are custom ROMs based on stock, optimised and free of the truly useless bloat.
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I agree but I have to go aosp to have ics on my phone
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I will continue using GO EX launcher, it does everything I like, no reason to change
have seen this same thread title somewhere else...
bala_gamer said:
have seen this same thread title somewhere else...
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Yeah...
OP why do you feel the need to post the same thread here? Is it because no-one's posted for a few days on the one you've got in the S2 forum
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Yeah, identical thread started by the same OP in the SGS2 i9100 forum.
Silliness.
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The codec support is definatly the best and I love the small things they added like the customizable battery percentage, extended toggles in the pulldown, newsticker on the lockscreen, shortcuts on the lockscreen etc.. it seems like they let you customize alot and I think you can really tell they hired someone from the CM team.
The new touchwiz also looks pretty good, I really like that they use 5 icons now. The appdrawer looks great and the plain black pulldown also looks nice. I think it looks very grown up now and even though it's using popping colours I don't find it too tacky or cartoonish like many others. I can't stand the "buhuhuhu they ruined the beauty of stock ICS buhhuhuhuhu" comments anymore it might not be "eyecandy" like sense which btw. I find extremly ugly but it is super smooth, compareable with iOS, it's minimalistic and not too overloaded.
The browser in gingerbread was crushing pretty much everything. It kinda sucks on ICS ATM, but seeing some videos it seems like it's fixed on the S3. Chrome comes close but it's still so buggy and lacks features. Samsung still has the smoothest browser, thats for sure...
rovex said:
Most of that stuff isnt anything to do with TW at all. Most of it is in stand alone apps that will work whether you use TW as a launcher or not. I will be using Apex launcher and i will still have all the Samsung extras.
AOSP, Cyanogen and AOKP ROMS are over rated, most are slower than custom ROMs based on Samsung stock, they have missing or broken features and are often unstable. I dont see the point in getting a phone like the S3 and putting inferior software on it, why not just buy a Nexus to start with? The best ROMs are custom ROMs based on stock, optimised and free of the truly useless bloat.
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Absolutely not true! CM is probably one of the most stable aosp roms. It will provide you (after some time passed for development) with superior performance, battery life and sometimes options like ui themes etc.
This is fact, not just user experience... but for everyone the roms they prefer the most. Personally looking forward to have dualboot and cm9 as primary rom...
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Absolutely not true! CM is probably one of the most stable aosp roms. It will provide you (after some time passed for development) with superior performance, battery life and sometimes options like ui themes etc.
This is fact, not just user experience... but for everyone the roms they prefer the most. Personally looking forward to have dualboot and cm9 as primary rom...
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Sorry, but on my S2 Cyanogen 9 sucks compared to the custom ROM/Siyah kernel combo im using. I tried it.
cmd512 said:
Yeah, identical thread started by the same OP in the SGS2 i9100 forum.
Silliness.
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not true, i added exclamation marks! lol
My "Dream ROM" for the Note 4 would be:
*Rooted
*Knox removed
*CyanogenMod style theming
*Samsung and Sprint bloatware removed (accept for Facebook sync)
*TouchWiz apps (calendar, messaging, phone, clock, calculator, lockscreen, notification quick settings) replaced with CyanogenMod versions
I am definitely willing to test but lack the skill to compile.
Anyone want to try?
i feel like you picked the wrong phone for that..
Why? I have suggested a TouchWiz rom that just looks like AOSP. Taking the best features of this phone (embodied in TouchWiz functions) and adding the apps of AOSP.
I'm sure there will be CyanogenMod based ROMs for this device but they will lack the expanding Windows that work great on this ROM.
Sounds like you want a different launcher. Try Nova
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Sounds like you want a different launcher. Try Nova
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No.
I was specific with what I want.
I already use another launcher.
Just saying Nova can give the AOSP look. *shrug*
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Just saying Nova can give the AOSP look. *shrug*
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Respectfully, it is not the look, but the interface of those apps that I like better.
Probably better to wait for cm11 to be made official for the Sprint Note 4. Hopefully it happens.
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Probably better to wait for cm11 to be made official for the Sprint Note 4. Hopefully it happens.
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Ordinarily, with most phones, I'd absolutely agree with you.
I flashed CyanogenMod based ROMs for every android I've ever had. In fact I was glad to get rid of TouchWiz for my Galaxies S2 and S3.
However, with this beast, I wouldn't want to give up the S-Note stylus features, floating windows, or one handed mode.
With xposed, I could duplicate the floating windows (x-halo) and split screen view.
But I wouldn't be able to duplicate a lot of the S-Note features (some maybe but not most), lots of the camera features, or one handed mode.
Further, the battery optimization on this phone is phenomenal and I have found the CM based ROMs aren't usually as good.
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Ordinarily, with most phones, I'd absolutely agree with you.
I flashed CyanogenMod based ROMs for every android I've ever had. In fact I was glad to get rid of TouchWiz for my Galaxies S2 and S3.
However, with this beast, I wouldn't want to give up the S-Note stylus features, floating windows, or one handed mode.
With xposed, I could duplicate the floating windows (x-halo) and split screen view.
But I wouldn't be able to duplicate a lot of the S-Note features (some maybe but not most), lots of the camera features, or one handed mode.
Further, the battery optimization on this phone is phenomenal and I have found the CM based ROMs aren't usually as good.
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Agreed. With flashing cm11, there are some trade offs. For me I like the smoothness of cm11 compared to Touch Wiz.
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Agreed. With flashing cm11, there are some trade offs. For me I like the smoothness of cm11 compared to Touch Wiz.
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I agree the smoothness is great, now we just CM11 on the Note 4.
We will soon
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We will soon
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Did I mention I Beta test?
I am working on this right now If everything goes smooth I will have an AOSP Themed Touch Wiz Rom ready
Totally agree with you. CM11 and 12 are great roms, but I love using the s pen as well as the s health and s note apps.