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MDEEJAY

Where are yuo gone?

castemic said:
Where are yuo gone?
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sigh..... read all his threads, SEARCH THE MANY POSTS THERE ARE ALREADY!!!
Wrong Section too, belongs in the bin

I also cant find his Posts - i know they have been closed, but have they also been deleted?
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MDJ's threads were in violation of XDA's GPL rules, the threads were locked and PM's were sent to him in early January with no response. Even though he was online and ignored the PM's he did not respond.
I know many are angry, but think of it this way, if someone is making a kernel that will run on thousands of phones, and using others sources which were shared, 1, you need to share your work also, 2, people have a right to see the code they are using to ensure it's not malicious etc. Why else would anyone not share their work when the GPL says you can use others as long as you also share.
Long story short. Since he is not responding to any PM's even though he has been online means that he is ignoring the MODS or hiding something. To protect XDA rules and members, his threads have been removed from public. We cannot leave the thread up as their are many GPL violations left for him to fix. Sorry if you've been using his stuff and he has abandoned you.
noellenchris
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hm i have the same question...
he does a very good work, and share his kernels....
i know the problems with the GPL and so.... but he spend a lot of time for this work and get only a asskick while he not share his code...
i think, we need a better solution... like a "limited open source", only a hand full users have the privileg too look in the source code and check for problems.... or so....
but only the close and bann from this forum without a reason for the other users is not a solution.... we need a statment or somethink like that!

a big LOL...this is what XDA does...they screw all our gd chefs 1 by 1...xda community is becoming too bureaucratical...rules and laws and BS...just let chefs share their work and us users enjoy and appretiate the work...u noe how some countries hate their government...yea...XDA mods are the government.

lilelf87 said:
a big LOL...this is what XDA does...they screw all our gd chefs 1 by 1...xda community is becoming too bureaucratical...rules and laws and BS...just let chefs share their work and us users enjoy and appretiate the work...u noe how some countries hate their government...yea...XDA mods are the government.
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I've been a member for a long time, and only a MOD for a few. If you loaned me your car for a few weeks and I refused to give you a ride. I'm sure you'd be pretty mad. Well the code and hard work that made the Linux Kernel was shared for free on one condition. That if you use it/modify or whatever YOU MUST SHOW YOUR SOURCE, not where you found it. Otherwise if your recieving any donations for your work on the back of other dev's hard work, then it's illegal and wrong if too many ways.
However this is too easy to fix. TELL ME WHY MDJ DOESN'T REPLY OR FIX THIS FOR ALMOST A MONTH? He has been givin many chances.
He will not be really missed since his work was based off of many of the devs here on XDA who had and do share their source/work on the kernels.
MDJ is not banned. Look him up. He is free to post or appear out of thin air here. But he doesn't. If he wants to, and fix his work, then he has options and his threads may come back.
noellenchris

strange business over a few letters in a title....
calling or i guess insinuating his code is malicious is complete bull****. he was just fine up until a rule changed then he was all of a sudden pure evil.
plain to see there is alot more to the story here then is being said by both parties. which leads me to believe this all over some personal bull****. normally when one of the highest ranked users in a particular forum fails to change something to a new a rule a mod/admin will do it for them without issue. because thats what they are for. they dont play stupid cat and mouse games testing to see if the user will bend to their authroity and then delete their stuff when they dont. thats plain stupidity. all someone has to do is go to mdj's website by googling "ultimate droid" and then all of a sudden they have no reason to come back here. is that good for xda? to lose people over a simple tagging dispute that is completely stupid? do you remember how popular he was here? should we expect xda to take a personal vendetta against anyone who may be too busy to possibly answer pm's? are the mods cops or mods? are they here to help or here to just cull the herd so to speak?
personally i dont give a flying **** about the stupid drama between whatever children are involved. im not anyones friend here i just come here for android builds. they will most certainly pop up somewhere else if they dont here. i like this place but if it shut down tomorrow i wouldnt cry precisely becuase of **** like this...id just jump on one of the now many boards out there offering builds.
just being honest...

Come on people how hard is it to release your code???
Like Noellenchris said, it's all based on free open source code, he's recieving money for it, so it's not very ethical is it?

lilelf87 said:
a big LOL...this is what XDA does...they screw all our gd chefs 1 by 1...xda community is becoming too bureaucratical...rules and laws and BS...just let chefs share their work and us users enjoy and appretiate the work...u noe how some countries hate their government...yea...XDA mods are the government.
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I dont know why you feel that what was done to MDEEJAY was unfair... He is one hell of a chef I grant him that but rules are rules and they were created and set in place to ensure the safety of all the members of XDA-dev...
All he needed to do was just reply to the MODs but he never did. Him being banned on this Forum is a very big loss but there are other chef's out there that are as good if not even better.
I am not undermining MDEEJAYs work as I am still loving his HD nand versions and i will still say that his 10.4 kernel is one of the best out there. I wish he would just reply to the MODs so he could come back. As I know that a lot of us are waiting for his future developments.
Say all you want to say about the MODs and how XDA is being run. But I believe that this was done not to screw someone in the arse but to protect all of us users...

Dr4g0n said:
i think, we need a better solution... like a "limited open source", only a hand full users have the privileg too look in the source code and check for problems.... or so....
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Unfortunately that won't work.
The GPL licence is the licence the linux kernel is distributed under. That's not negotiable, as Linus Torvalds made that choice. As such, if someone wants to make changes to a kernel, they must respect the licence that the code is available under.
If you don't want to abide by them, you would need to go and write your own OS from scratch, which did not make use of any GPL code.
Since kernels are based on GPL code, and the GPL has been legally challenged and found to be valid, it is a requirement when posting GPL licenced code on XDA to follow the GPL licence. There is a simplified list of requirements available on XDA that summarise how this affects users here.
Compliance is not optional and is non-negotiable. If you will not provide your sources, you do not have permission to use the kernel (read the GPL for info), and as such anything released like this is "warez". XDA does not tolerate warez to be posted, and will remove it, following due process.
@lilelf87, there are rules here. If you do not like them, feel free to go to a site without rules. Rules benefit us all. I could recompile a kernel with a nasty rootkit in it, that would log everything you did, or watch keystrokes, or brick your device. If sources are not available, then how can you be sure that what is provided is safe? This is why the GPL exists. If you don't like it, then I'm afraid it's too bad, as Android uses the Linux kernel, which is GPL licensed.
EDIT: Thread moved to General/Q&A, and @memnoch2099, you are spot on there

lilelf87 said:
a big LOL...this is what XDA does...they screw all our gd chefs 1 by 1...xda community is becoming too bureaucratical...rules and laws and BS...just let chefs share their work and us users enjoy and appretiate the work...u noe how some countries hate their government...yea...XDA mods are the government.
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a BIG LOOOL to you and all the people that share similar viewpoint on GPL. to consider striving for GPL compliance as a bureaucracy measure is idiotic.

OK, I don't understand:
Does this means that if we release a new Kernel or ROM ,we will be forced to share the code? even if the modifications are small?

ForceField said:
OK, I don't understand:
Does this means that if we release a new Kernel or ROM ,we will be forced to share the code? even if the modifications are small?
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First, this only applies to kernels. If you are only making a tiny tweak to a ROM, you likely shouldn't be releasing it as an entire ROM, and instead sharing it with the dev of the original ROM to include in future (with credit), or to offer as optional to users.
If it's kernel changes, then no matter how small, you should share them. There is no need to upload the entire sources though. Here's how I did it for two tiny changes:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=848494
See the bottom of the post.
Base kernel (cheers, Erasmux, and big props) https://github.com/erasmux/hero-2.6..../flykernel-11c
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shows the stock sources used, and the modified CPU table and the touchscreen tweak were linked.
That's all it takes, and gives credit to the OP of the kernel, but also shares the changes without people having to download large amounts of sources again just to get changes.
That is all it takes

ForceField said:
OK, I don't understand:
Does this means that if we release a new Kernel or ROM ,we will be forced to share the code? even if the modifications are small?
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Thats the point of GPL.
Thats why Linux has most of no Viruses

hope 2 C U again, MDJ
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dont understand why he doesnt write back ?! just upload his sources to git and that's it ....
i'm waiting for him, he wrote the most and especially the best roms and kernels
still using his cm7 v2.6 rom, this rom is even better than the recently published ones.
didn't had problems with his one, every thing works from the beginning on - and the most important thing for me, mdj made many roms, so everyone could choose which is the best one.
pls mdj, just write back and continue your work

hope to see you again mdj

why did you closed all of his threads ? he uploaded the sources to git untill 3.01.2011 !!

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Pulser has made it incredibly clear and easy for you all to understand...
(oh and for the record, MDJ hasn't been banned, that's nonsense...he's free to make new threads any time he likes...he just has to comply with GPL requirements)
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plain to see there is alot more to the story here then is being said by both parties. which leads me to believe this all over some personal bull****. normally when one of the highest ranked users in a particular forum fails to change something to a new a rule a mod/admin will do it for them without issue.
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We cannot change his threads because his git repository is outdated and does not reflect the current version of his kernels. He has been online numerous times since I sent him various PMs, but has not responded...we are not here to hold anyone's hand.

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PM me if this is too vague. Or you have specific questions/requests/ideas! - *You want it lean, let's make it YOUR way!* EDIT 1[/V]
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I've hit a bump in the road for development as of the late. I have aosp booting, but haven't had the service to clone all the update libraries/modules/etc etc. What this means is practically nothing works. Pre-alpha. Though resources should push it straight to beta.
My proposal is that a group of us work around this and make a public git. Obviously I'm stuck for lack of 3G. I need the most recent aosp source in a public git and I need a manager for it. Anyone is welcome to share their commits/enhancements.
This will never be more than optimized aosp. If you wanna make it into cm7, download cm7. Android functions best the way google made it. Wimax may work, with toastcfh's permission of course (haven't asked yet)
Hope a few of you are on bard! *pirate voice* EDIT 2
Please see post number 3 - reply number two - for additional informationzzz
Developers that made me want to get involved!
aosp
Darchstar
preludedrew
toastcfh
scaryghoul... just for all the 's
flipz

ARRR! I just want to say thanks!

Based on a couple pms I've received - I'd like to clarify something.
I WANT this to become a user optimized build, but not where you get a bloated rom right off the bat and have to trim. I do NOT have a lot of development experience, or skill - just learning as I go - but if we host the main source in one location and then a few of us modify our own trees - we can utilize lunch to build aosp within certain paramaters - geared for the end user. Write a script to auto-build every version thats linked to the central git every 3 days or so - and let users add or request want they want included for them. Possibly integrate it in a simple uncomment method for those willing to compile?
If I don't want Rom Manager, then damnit! I don't want Rom Manager! (Personally love it just stressing a point. <3 @koush)
So, does this clear anything up fellas?

I'm still confused. Can't your goal be easily accomplished by flashing CM7 and removing the apps you don't want? If you don't want ROM Manager you don't have to, you can remove it.
I understand the concept you're going for but it sounds like a big duplication of effort.
^ Shift Faced

jesusice said:
I'm still confused. Can't your goal be easily accomplished by flashing CM7 and removing the apps you don't want? If you don't want ROM Manager you don't have to, you can remove it.
I understand the concept you're going for but it sounds like a big duplication of effort.
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No. The point is to have a full aosp rom for anyone to build off of who doesn't want a cm7 base. I see two reasons for this.
1. There seems to be a stigment attached to roms based off of cm7.
2. Having a full aosp rom might help aspiring devs/ect. for people who want to start without the bloat/features of cm7.(I say bloat because of it's massive settings/customizability & it's integration into the frameworks).
@credits ^^

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No. The point is to have a full aosp rom for anyone to build off of who doesn't want a cm7 base. I see two reasons for this.
1. There seems to be a stigment attached to roms based off of cm7.
2. Having a full aosp rom might help aspiring devs/ect. for people who want to start without the bloat/features of cm7.(I say bloat because of it's massive settings/customizability & it's integration into the frameworks).
@credits ^^
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The stigment isn't an issue for me cause I've been building cm7 AND evervolv for a while now. *both are fantastic roms, running evervolv at the moment* For me its a community helping/learning project. Anyone who's actually got time and is nice can look at commits - make suggestions, corrections. I'm tired of wanting my phone to do something and not making it happen myself.
EDIT: Hit submit on accident. Surely there are several people that want to get into android development or are trying to and aren't getting the support they need. They call it open source for a reason.

I would like to help but I have 0 idea on how developing works..lol
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+1 I'm eager to learn and I'm a fast learner but don't know where to start... summer is starting in early may for me and ill have a lot of free time.
Is there a website or book someone can point me to? Maybe a quick history lesson on how you devs got into developing roms? Id love to be a part of this!
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I would like to help but I have 0 idea on how developing works..lol
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lilgrass71 said:
+1 I'm eager to learn and I'm a fast learner but don't know where to start... summer is starting in early may for me and ill have a lot of free time.
Is there a website or book someone can point me to? Maybe a quick history lesson on how you devs got into developing roms? Id love to be a part of this!
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I made it to New Orleans today. Full 3G. PM me if interested and we'll start the building blocks tonight. No rush
Easiest way to be prepared. Ubuntu 10.04 or newer 64-bit. For a practice run follow preludedrews compiling guide via http://www.evervolv.com - Great piece for beginners. Or here on XDA - Building CM7 from source. Great step by step with pictures etc.
I'm gonna start downloading the latest source now. Be free around 8pm CST. Follow the irc link in my sig if interested.
AOSP source guide - http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html
alternate - http://www.android.net/forum/beginn...osp-source-semi-complete-guide-worked-me.html

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Hahaha good job
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I simply don't get why there are so many useless ROMs

the whole development section is bloated with useless ROMs from people that call themselves "developers" and yet all they do is change themes and apps inside the Rom and call it their own, more over they even introduce more bugs to already perfect ROMs made by real devs.
I mean are some people really that stupid and can't remove and install their own app and themes?
LEAVE THE ROOM FOR DEVS. STOP POSTING JUNK ROMS!

kolyan said:
the whole development section is bloated with useless ROMs from people that call themselves "developers" and yet all they do is change themes and apps inside the Rom and call it their own, more over they even introduce more bugs to already perfect ROMs made by real devs.
I mean are some people really that stupid and can't remove and install their own app and themes?
LEAVE THE ROOM FOR DEVS. STOP POSTING JUNK ROMS!
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I think these developers do a great job and have revolutionised Android roms. But I have to say I do agree with you to some degree. I think the fault is not with the Developers (give them credit for trying) but in fact the fault is with the big Fat Cats of the world like Google, HTC, Sony Ericsson etc who so easily could invent a great Android rom if they wanted to. I guess money talks!

kolyan said:
the whole development section is bloated with useless ROMs from people that call themselves "developers" and yet all they do is change themes and apps inside the Rom and call it their own, more over they even introduce more bugs to already perfect ROMs made by real devs.
I mean are some people really that stupid and can't remove and install their own app and themes?
LEAVE THE ROOM FOR DEVS. STOP POSTING JUNK ROMS!
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I agree to some extent, with the ROMs which claim to be 'based on Hyperdroid' or 'based on NDT MIUI' but are, in actual fact, just those ROMs with some APKs edited, but if people have built their own ROM from scratch then they have a right to post in the dev section even if they aren't of 'developer' status.

lol...there is like 8-9 different Miui ROMs on first 2 pages.... all of them pretty much the same as original and only 2 are from real devs that actually know what they are doing....extra 6 useless ROMs are just taking space

To make it short, agreed.
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I'm waiting for your Rom. Don't you get it that our phone is simply old and soon unfortunately will be history?
Sent from my Desire HD

mzebrowski13 said:
I'm waiting for your Rom. Don't you get it that our phone is simply old and soon unfortunately will be history?
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Sorry but you make no sense...
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To any moderators:
a great idea would be to add an origional NAND android development (for ROM's built from scratch by true devs) and a separate NAND android development thread for the lighter developers who theme and mod roms. I know the SGSII forums have such an organization and works very well

mzebrowski13 said:
I'm waiting for your Rom. Don't you get it that our phone is simply old and soon unfortunately will be history?
Sent from my Desire HD
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old maybe.. history not for a long time
the hd2 is bettor then 99 percent of all the other phones out there
since you seem to think its history
maybe you should sell it to someone that would appreciate it
and move onto somewhere else

seanyuan62 said:
To any moderators:
a great idea would be to add an origional NAND android development (for ROM's built from scratch by true devs) and a separate NAND android development thread for the lighter developers who theme and mod roms. I know the SGSII forums have such an organization and works very well
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Very good idea. I think this would work.

kolyan said:
the whole development section is bloated with useless ROMs from people that call themselves "developers" and yet all they do is change themes and apps inside the Rom and call it their own, more over they even introduce more bugs to already perfect ROMs made by real devs.
I mean are some people really that stupid and can't remove and install their own app and themes?
LEAVE THE ROOM FOR DEVS. STOP POSTING JUNK ROMS!
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All the roads and car Parks where I live get full of teens with custom body kits on their cars.
WHY MUST THEY ALL ALTER THEIR PERFECTLY WORKING CARS? ? CAN'T THEY ALL JUST DRIVE THE SAME CAR!
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The whole point of xda is taking things that already exist and tweaking them, then releasing the results back to the community, where it may or may not get re-tweaked and re released.
The dev section would be almost empty if only original builds were allowed, and we'd all be using one of three or four options,,, ,dull.

Nigeldg said:
Very good idea. I think this would work.
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Of course, the next problem would be our HD2 section having a million sub-forums lol...

seanyuan62 said:
Of course, the next problem would be our HD2 section having a million sub-forums lol...
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hahahahahahahahahahaha true.....
All the people out there that they are developing or they are Trying to develop on HD2 have the right to give it a try cause you see...... ANDROID OS its Open-source that means everyone can try it... so who are you to judge the half xda (cause they are not all perfect programmers around here)???
Show me your work and i will respect your words
Always with respect and friendly speaking
Peace all over dudes of XDA!

Dakargr said:
hahahahahahahahahahaha true.....
All the people out there that they are developing or they are Trying to develop on HD2 have the right to give it a try cause you see...... ANDROID OS its Open-source that means everyone can try it... so who are you to judge the half xda (cause they are not all perfect programmers around here)???
Show me your work and i will respect your words
Always with respect and friendly speaking
Peace all over dudes of XDA!
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I don't think you fully understand, the problem is not in people posting their themed ROMs, it's that these 'ROMs' are cluttering up the development forum, quite a lot of them unnecessarily. Nobody here is saying that these people cannot develop good ROMs, it's just that there should be two sub-forums for ROMs developed from scratch (Original Android Development) and ROMs which have been edited and themed (can't think of a name right now). This would make it much easier to choose a ROM.

Nigeldg said:
I don't think you fully understand, the problem is not in people posting their themed ROMs, it's that these 'ROMs' are cluttering up the development forum, quite a lot of them unnecessarily. Nobody here is saying that these people cannot develop good ROMs, it's just that there should be two sub-forums for ROMs developed from scratch (Original Android Development) and ROMs which have been edited and themed (can't think of a name right now). This would make it much easier to choose a ROM.
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:O my mistake then...!!
Hmm then i think i will agree with you for the two sub-forums

Searching for a good ROM on the Development section feels like this :
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However, better than nothing, prior to the summer, development was dead...

seanyuan62 said:
To any moderators:
a great idea would be to add an origional NAND android development (for ROM's built from scratch by true devs) and a separate NAND android development thread for the lighter developers who theme and mod roms. I know the SGSII forums have such an organization and works very well
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I love this idea. I very much like the openness of Android and agree everyone should be able to tailor their Android devices to their own wishes. HOWEVER, the current situation is very much overwhelming.

Nigeldg said:
I don't think you fully understand, the problem is not in people posting their themed ROMs, it's that these 'ROMs' are cluttering up the development forum, quite a lot of them unnecessarily. Nobody here is saying that these people cannot develop good ROMs, it's just that there should be two sub-forums for ROMs developed from scratch (Original Android Development) and ROMs which have been edited and themed (can't think of a name right now). This would make it much easier to choose a ROM.
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how are they cluttering up the the dev forum? id rather see more people trying to help and keep the hd2 alive than see it die off due to people saying that their work isnt appreciated.
thats why there is a set naming convention in the dev forum, so you can see from the title what the rom is based on

But how to decide what's original and what's just tweaked? All the cm7 builds for example, are based off a single rom for a different phone, so do they count as original, or tweaked skinned rereleases?

Richy99 said:
how are they cluttering up the the dev forum? id rather see more people trying to help and keep the hd2 alive than see it die off due to people saying that their work isnt appreciated.
thats why there is a set naming convention in the dev forum, so you can see from the title what the rom is based on
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Looking down the thread titles in the dev sections right now, you cannot argue that there are too many ROMs which are all pretty much the same but with different kernels, or a few tweaks etc. I agree that this is infinitely better than the period before the Summer where there was almost no development, but I don't think that there should be so many of the same thing in the main forum. I agree with seanyuan62, there should be two different NAND development forums.
Also, your point about work not being appreciated isn't true at all, the work is still appreciated just as much, nobody is saying that we don't want those ROMs, just that they should be in a separate forum.
Take, as a good example, Dorimanx's ROM. It is simply Typhoon but skinned and tweaked for better performance from my understanding (APOLOGIES IF I'M WRONG) but is clearly appreciated hugely.
As for the naming thing, it isn't necessarily too clear, all have the Android version, Sense version, date, and whatever else there is in the titles, but it isn't easy to see what each ROM has to it which is unique to that ROM. It is also far too easy to BS in the title (one is advertised as 'the fastest HD2 ROM'.
I think that the 2 sub-forum thing is a much better idea (it could even potentially increase the number of ROMs being created) and hopefully the great devs wouldn't take it the wrong way if it were to be put in place.

[DEV][CM9] Open ICS Project - UPDATE 4/13/12

news
Code:
4/13/12
CM9 is out. see last post for details. thread closing, thanks everyone!
3/31/12
-wow its been a while since i updated this.. progress is good.
3/17/12
-i know this thread is quite a the moment... something big is comming
3/10/12
going back to school soon, then i can start cracking down on this again. its been hard with seeing family and such.
current priority list:
-Sleep of death
-wifi
-sensors/audio (whichever i get to first)
-iron out storage issues (if there are any)
-camera
-am i missing anything???
3/7/12
-green overlay + 3d acceleration fixed. preparing updates and pushing them soon.
3/5/12
-sorry for lack of updates, working on the green screen issue and will hopefully have it fixed soon, that and i am on spring break, expect more next week. ill do my best this week.
3/1/12
-updated broken/working
-updated the repo
-uploaded early build
2/29/12
-pulled early build, kernel problem. compiling new one now.
2/28/12:
- posted early build.
- i have finals right now so ill do my best to keep working
INTRO
Hey everyone. I have been at it for *insert days since 2/24/12* days strait and I finally got a working Device tree up and running. This is not meant for use yet. Very buggy and needs lots of work. But its a start. This is my own device + vendor tree. I started from scratch. (see Thanks for some details.)
INFO
This is a work in progress. dont ask for ETAs.
THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT THREAD! DONT SPAM THIS TREAD. I WOULD LIKE TO GET SOMETHING DONE HERE. KEEP YOUR BICKERING TO THE GENERAL SECTION. I WILL NOT TOLERATE UNNECESSARY COMMENTS
CONTRIBUTE!
Remember this is an open project. post here or pm me if you have any contributions to the project. im sure we all would like cm9 running on our devices with a tree + kernel available to everyone! lets make this a team effort. lets put everything else behind us and get a good, stable, source-built rom for our tablet
WORKING
boots
3D acceleration
2D acceleration
touchscreen
usb input
task switcher
no green overlay
Known issues/Broken
WIFI
Bluetooth
audio (i think i found a fix. havent implemented yet)
sensors
camera - we have drivers its just a mater of implementing them
THANKS!
seraphimserapis - some base config stuff (not many of you may know him but he was a huge part in the early days of the iconia)
blazingwolf - reading lots of your posts. helped with base vendor config. kernel
RaYmAn - touchscreen fix in kernel
cyanogenmod - source lulz
if im missing someone tell me. I dont want to leave anyone out on this.
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Development stuff
INFO
So I figure this will be much easier once acer releases the kernel source for ICS. but for now im working off of the HC source. we can do our best.
In the device tree local-extract-files.sh and extract-files.sh are both incomplete. its easy to finish i just use my own vendor folder and change it as i go. ill fix them later.
most of my updates are posted in the news box at the top of the page. its easier to update and more noticeable.
SOURCE
Kernel: https://github.com/gh123man/Picasso-ICS-kernel-2.6.36.3
device tree: https://github.com/gh123man/device_acer_picasso
vendor tree: https://github.com/gh123man/vendor_acer_picasso

DOWNLOADS
early build: http://www.mediafire.com/?c4kf5cnkrbizbkq 3/1/12

reserved just in case

Did you try to use ics stock kernel ?
It may help until ICS kernel sources are released.

vache said:
Did you try to use ics stock kernel ?
It may help until ICS kernel sources are released.
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so far i have only used the stock acer 3.2 kernel with the touch screen fix... ill look into it if i can. ive been tinkering around with other kernels with no results as of yet. i am also trying to play with the a200 sources you posted but im getting a bunch of compile errors.

Sweet, going to keep an eye on this. How can I help out?

agentfazexx said:
Sweet, going to keep an eye on this. How can I help out?
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best thing you can do is compile the device tree. install it on your device. and start fixing problems. ill post a guide if anyone would like on how to do a basic compile.

I'm glad to see an open ICS dev branch for our Iconia. I'm not too good at developing, but I have plenty of server space if you need an image mirror.

try fixing the issues using thors asop ics

apapousek said:
I'm glad to see an open ICS dev branch for our Iconia. I'm not too good at developing, but I have plenty of server space if you need an image mirror.
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Thank you. ill let you know (sorry for the previous misquote )

gh123man said:
best thing you can do is compile the device tree. install it on your device. and start fixing problems. ill post a guide if anyone would like on how to do a basic compile.
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Yes Please a guide will be nice and any advise as well.

Hey, been working on something similar as well. May be able to help with some issues you have. Give me a shout via PM or hop on IRC on freenode in the #teamkang channel

gh123man said:
Thank you. ill let you know (sorry for the previous misquote)
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No worries. I hate seeing people asking for eta, or saying "i'm a blonde lol" in dev threads. The Development sections is for developoment.. kind've obvious. I'm not too handy with compiling Android, but I do love compiling kernels, though. If you want, I'll monkey around with a couple configs.

apapousek said:
No worries. I hate seeing people asking for eta, or saying "i'm a blonde lol" in dev threads. The Development sections is for developoment.. kind've obvious. I'm not too handy with compiling Android, but I do love compiling kernels, though. If you want, I'll monkey around with a couple configs.
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@apapousek yeah that comment was directed at someone who changed their post... i quoted you by mistake for that I am sorry . feel free, actually please, monkey with everything!
@everyone repos updated, added decoders and stuff. re-arranged stuff in device and vendor. added a working early build if you want to play with it. changed the working/broken with some more details, still cant get wifi working...

gh123man said:
@apapousek yeah that comment was directed at someone who changed their post... i quoted you by mistake. feel free, actually please, monkey with everything!
@everyone repos updated, added decoders and stuff. re-arranged stuff in device and vendor. added a working early build if you want to play with it. changed the working/broken with some more details, still cant get wifi working...
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Alright. 2 seconds, and I'm out. You won't see me comment here again. Thank you for reading that and realizing you misquoted. I read through that response multiple times and I was like.... What???? That's a bit over the top for offering server space.. Turns out your pretty nice.
Next, thank you doing this. Very nice to see so much development. This is awesome!!!! Good luck with finals.
*gone like a ghost.*
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hey everyone, you may be wondering where i have been. well i finished finals and came out alive, went on a ski trip where google happened to have 600 employ's on a trip, so that was really cool. and while all of this has been going on i have not missed a day of working on this project. now that i have been home for a few days i have been able to crank out some work.
Graphics driver fixed, no more crashes. WORKING HW ACCELERATION
gallery is now fixed because of this.
and best of all... NO GREEN OVERLAY
only issue is a bad sleep of death issue... time to start digging.
ill push updates to the repos soon if anyone wants to play with it.
+ thanks to blazingwolf for a kick in the right direction.
EDIT:
repos have been updated with the graphics changes,
current priority list:
-Sleep of death
-wifi
-sensors/audio (whichever i get to first)
-iron out storage issues (if there are any)
-camera
-am i missing anything???

Try working or speaking with the masters behind flexrom.... looks/sounds like they got the SoD ironed out pretty well.... although few still report it.
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bdubs4200 said:
Try working or speaking with the masters behind flexrom.... looks/sounds like they got the SoD ironed out pretty well.... although few still report it.
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It may work, but it would be better to fix it in the source rather than applying a binary patch.
Flexrom ( a good rom, overall ) = modification of a leak
This ( a work in progress ) = built from source

Hey, don't think nobody is interested in your project! I'll keep an eye on it, being an early adapter since cm7 started for the Samsung Galaxy S. I hope to see this grow like a banana!

Should DEV assign MODDER for their ROM?

Hi Everybody,
Yes, me speaking about true DEVELOPERS in here(which is not make a rom based on other).Should they assign someone(MODDERS) who can make their rom more beautiful a.k.a retheme and place it under the ori one?
What goods in this?
1.to reduce(zero maybe) qtty retheme rom threads in DEV sec cause the modder
finally know & have the right place to share their talent.
2.ppl also know the right place to try any rom & give a feedback to DEV(bugs, etc)in the right thread
3.to reduce gaps between DEV & MODDER if their are working together.
4.thread based other roms also can totaly prohibit cause modder now can placed a rom under DEV wing.
5.to encourage these modders learn to make own rom if they insist to open new thread in DEV sec.
Again,why retheme roms threats not belongs in DEV sec?
People will complains any bugs in a false threads which it should be in ori rom thread.THIS IS NOT HELPING DEVELOPMENT AT ALL...
BTW,this are some suggestion only & forgive me if this will offend somebody cause im sincerely but no good with words

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zmuhammx said:
Hi Everybody,
Yes, me speaking about true DEVELOPERS in here(which is not make a rom based on other).Should they assign someone(MODDERS) who can make their rom more beautiful a.k.a retheme and place it under the ori one?
What goods in this?
1.to reduce(zero maybe) qtty retheme rom threads in DEV sec cause the modder
finally know & have the right place to share their talent.
2.ppl also know the right place to try any rom & give a feedback to DEV(bugs, etc)in the right thread
3.to reduce gaps between DEV & MODDER if their are working together.
4.thread based other roms also can totaly prohibit cause modder now can placed a rom under DEV wing.
5.to encourage these modders learn to make own rom if they insist to open new thread in DEV sec.
Again,why retheme roms threats not belongs in DEV sec?
People will complains any bugs in a false threads which it should be in ori rom thread.THIS IS NOT HELPING DEVELOPMENT AT ALL...
BTW,this are some suggestion only & forgive me if this will offend somebody cause im sincerely but no good with words
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I partially dis-agree.
I dis-agree with the fact that modders should be assigned. Everybody and anybody should be free and distribute their mods (obviously giving credits etc and with permission of the original devs)
I agree with the fact this is not development.
I agree with the fact , that all mods should be placed under the original ROM
I was wondering , how would this concept work , if the modded ROM is based on two or more ROMS ?
I really don't think it is practical enough ? I really don't know...
Edit : B.Jay , I just ROFLed

B.Jay said:
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Lol classic
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Mayank77 said:
I partially dis-agree.
I dis-agree with the fact that modders should be assigned. Everybody and anybody should be free and distribute their mods (obviously giving credits etc and with permission of the original devs)
I agree with the fact this is not development.
I agree with the fact , that all mods should be placed under the original ROM
I was wondering , how would this concept work , if the modded ROM is based on two or more ROMS ?
I really don't think it is practical enough ? I really don't know...
Edit : B.Jay , I just ROFLed
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Thanks for reply,
This sugestion for DEV only & they will decide it.For exp:B.Jay decided no mods for his rom & we must respect that.(ppl doing it anyway even not in here)
For some DEV who would like to see their rom much prettier but dont have time to do it(focus on bugs & their had their real life too)can make announcement in their thread & invite somebody who can.
There is misunderstood in here cause me suggest for RETHEME roms only.Based on two or more roms,porting,works on stock kernel also considered a DEVELOPMENT(me not mention cause they usually came up with "package")& usually have diff bugs.The one im talking is the pure one which is a DEV 100% own it.The main point in this is DEV will know the bugs even if ppl on retheme roms and make space for these modder to share their talent legally in here.We have to admit,ppl would bother to have ICS if the ui is the same as GB,Like it or not beauty is the first impression.
Again,DEV can decide which is best for their roms.Im not pushing anybody in here just to share what I think sincerely.

I kinda understand your point...what you're talking about is a collaboration or a deal between the devs and modders...the only example which pops into my head when i see this thread is like nAa and D_d...nAa develops the roms while D_d designs the themes for the roms i know its not 100% accurate with what you're suggesting, but im just giving the best example i can

Well, to avoid this I always thought that the Dev could UPLOAD THEIR OWN version of their ROM that's modded and themed.
e.g:
GingerDX v30
Original: DOWNLOAD
Sony Style: DOWNLOAD
ICS Style: DOWNLOAD
Sense: Download
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IrishStuff09 said:
Well, to avoid this I always thought that the Dev could UPLOAD THEIR OWN version of their ROM that's modded and themed.
e.g:
GingerDX v30
Original: DOWNLOAD
Sony Style: DOWNLOAD
ICS Style: DOWNLOAD
Sense: Download
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Not bad!!!
the idea is great but developer will have to leave behind private life, family and girlfriend if he wanna do it by yourself! But if all developers have "their own Dark dogs" it may be possible!

Let me make one thing clear....dark dog is a rcognized themer !!! makes his own themes for minicm......soft modders JUST take a theme of achep and sony sekhon and others.....

Rahat34 said:
Let me make one thing clear....dark dog is a rcognized themer !!! makes his own themes for minicm......soft modders JUST take a theme of achep and sony sekhon and others.....
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Well said!

RohinZaraki said:
I kinda understand your point...what you're talking about is a collaboration or a deal between the devs and modders...the only example which pops into my head when i see this thread is like nAa and D_d...nAa develops the roms while D_d designs the themes for the roms i know its not 100% accurate with what you're suggesting, but im just giving the best example i can
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Rohin,
since im new in here,me not sure if this kind of tag-team has practicing in here.Only i can see so many retheme roms based on other which is can divine by 2
1.No developement at all-update only a look but bugs still in there.people complain bugs but modder cant do nothing to fixs it.
2. has developement- bugs fixing just because modder actually has knowledge to make own rom but make a easy way by used other or someone just pop up with fixing.
Conclusion is:anything at all should go to ORIGINAL rom thread.All complain,bugs,fixing,thanks,anything belongs to ORIGINAL DEV.
My suggest only for this purpose:
1.modder with or without rom knowledge-they have spot for them & maybe they can learn some with a DEV.Dev also can learn something from these modder.
2.Anything will go to right place(what i saying above)
3.If somebody not happy with idea ORI DEV got all,learn make ur own & retheme anyway u like.
Many great DEV has left us cause feel disappoint of these trend but not given us a childish excuse like"oh! im feeling so tired stick my nose to many my based rom thread for find what wrong with my rom"
Cheers

IrishStuff09 said:
Well, to avoid this I always thought that the Dev could UPLOAD THEIR OWN version of their ROM that's modded and themed.
e.g:
GingerDX v30
Original: DOWNLOAD
Sony Style: DOWNLOAD
ICS Style: DOWNLOAD
Sense: Download
Sent from my R800i using xda premium
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If dev have time & knowledge, they will.If modder are sincerely enough to help dev & just loved to share their work,i believe there no reason dev will say no

As a recognised themer myself, I can safely say that sometimes TRULY theming a ROM can be just as painful and time-consuming as developing it.
BUT it is not development nonetheless.
Also what is NOT development is picking up init.d scripts from Android General section, packing it in a developers ROM and re-distributing it as a new one under your name.
This discussion can go on and on but I am sure you get the point.
This thread is quite interesting, because I really feel a bit disappointed by all the "ROMs" that flood the Development section, when the amount of real developing is very low.
Let me also say, I am not talking specifically about X8 section, it is a general phenomenon in pretty much all Sony forums.

And who says that the themers aren't devs to?
Its very hard....

What about GPL and Open Source?
Not taking any sides here, just gonna play Devil's Advocate for a bit and see if anyone can answer..
Under GPL, open source code can be used, changed and redistributed WITHOUT the permission of the code creator..
nAa, paul-xxx and all the other devs here have done exactly that.. Taken the GPL code, changed it, and are redistributing it WITHOUT prior consent of the REAL code dev..
Don't you all think it's a bit much then that they require us to seek their permission to change code they didn't even write? Same goes for the kernels.. This is GPL code..
Anyone can compile code, in fact it's really easy.. You don't even have to understand code to compile it.. So remember, porting is not coding, it's compiling..
I wonder how many lines of real code belong to the devs here.. My guess is very little..
Let me know your thoughts on this please devs..
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got your point.. and u can be wright,
but when person x ask permission from person y that can be interpreted as respect person y's earlier work, so its not so bad, isn't it!?

What about GPL and Open Source?
It's actually a violation of GPL. (asking permission to use the code)
You can be prosecuted in a court of law for breaking GPL or trying to change code written under the GPL to another licence..
This is what is happening here and people should be made aware of this..
I would never ask nAa permission to change his kernel for example.. There is no legal requirement to.. In fact, if I ask for his source code, he must supply it whether he likes it or not.. He could face legal implications if he didn't..
I could then redistribute MY kernel anywhere (even charge for it) as long as I supply MY source code to the public.. This is how open source works..
MY FINAL THOUGHT ON THIS..
We should kick ass in the open source world, not kiss ass!
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CtrlAltDelIrl said:
MY FINAL THOUGHT ON THIS..
We should kick ass in the open source world, not kiss ass!
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agree, but this is totally of topic man!

iridaki said:
As a recognised themer myself, I can safely say that sometimes TRULY theming a ROM can be just as painful and time-consuming as developing it.
BUT it is not development nonetheless.
Also what is NOT development is picking up init.d scripts from Android General section, packing it in a developers ROM and re-distributing it as a new one under your name.
This discussion can go on and on but I am sure you get the point.
This thread is quite interesting, because I really feel a bit disappointed by all the "ROMs" that flood the Development section, when the amount of real developing is very low.
Let me also say, I am not talking specifically about X8 section, it is a general phenomenon in pretty much all Sony forums.
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For all due respect,
Me agreed that retheme also need a hard work indeed.in fact typing this also is hard for me& taking 1/2 hrs to finish it
That why me brough up this because me see Retheme also same important as make a rom.me try to see win-win situations in here.
1.A make a thread for his fresh new rom,he/she also would like to see it grow & alive
2.then B came up,open new thread with much beautiful rom based on A's.
3.ppl will definitely go to B thread & left A thread dying.
4.even worse,C came up with rom based on A's or B's
Now u think, are its fair for A since He/She has start it first?
True,make a diff also can called it DEV but are this kind DEV we want?
By hurting other ppl feeling?
So what me suggest is,A make some space for B and C.Ppl will stick to A's thread and it will grow as it should be without hurting anyone.
Meantime,if B or C still not happy with it they should learn to make own rom & do whatever they like.
God bless all.
p/s: Retheme me talking here is make own theme not based on other totherwise,I also can be a modder

Choice, choice and (wait for it) more choice
This is exactly what open source offers us... Choice and plenty of it..
A good programmer doesn't make a good themer - I agree totally..
What one considers visually appealing can look like sh*t to another..
Thankfully we have choice so everyone is a winner..
Everyone here should be able to find the blend of features, performance and looks they desire..
If not, they are free to take any rom / kernel / theme and build their own.. This is one of the freedoms the GPL affords us.. We shouldn't ignore it.. We should relish it..
I agree with the idea of grouping MiniCM, GingerDX roms etc..
It would make finding similar roms much easier and would help bug tracking..
I've yet to see one proper bug report on XDA though..
Have fun,
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