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My android progression was
G1->Behold 2->G1->Nexus One
That behold 2 had great hardware and just god-awful software. Touchwiz blows, we all know it.
Priority One- Get this phone to stock. ASAP.
Yes I agree and using Odin flasher sucks. I'm hoping for better development here on xda.
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Touch wiz 3.0 is looking great. Its getting very good reviews. I don't have any experience with earlier versions though.
Been big fan off sense long time, and last samsung i did not like the Touchwiz, but now on Sgs with 3.0 i like it quite alot, and was fast as hell in begining but have slow down a litle bit now after a week use with more apps and stuff. But other then that it looks very nice and working great. With a task killer it helps speed it upp tho
Sounds like a bunch of baseless garbage. TouchWiz 3.0 looks extremely nice.
Again, ths isnt touchwiz 2, its touchwiz 3. Touchwiz 3 is fine and so far I havent seen one person or review who have said they dont like it, not one.
Wazco said:
Again, ths isnt touchwiz 2, its touchwiz 3. Touchwiz 3 is fine and so far I havent seen one person or review who have said they dont like it, not one.
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I think it's fine! the app menu is very good. The only problem are the lack of a few widgets compared to sense. But they can be produced or downloaded from the market.
I'll give it a shot I guess. Someone's porting it to the Nexus, so I'll try it there. Obviously we need at least 2.2 though.
I guess I just don't trust Samsung after the Behold 2 debacle.
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I'll give it a shot I guess. Someone's porting it to the Nexus, so I'll try it there. Obviously we need at least 2.2 though.
I guess I just don't trust Samsung after the Behold 2 debacle.
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I'm loving touchwiz 3, (coming from sense) I prefer touchwiz 3
this looks nice
youtube.com/watch?v=xAqZ5Hk96QY&feature=player_embedded
I am a HUGE fan of TouchWiz 3.0! TouchWiz sucked really bad on my i8910, but I gave touchwiz a try on the SGS and it's a great introduction to Android.
It basically marries some of the good features of the iphone with Android. I like it.
youtube.com/watch?v=xAqZ5Hk96QY&feature=player_embedded
LOOKS BAD ASS! best UI ive seen on any android phone.
People are so quick to bash Touchwiz 3.0 without even knowing what it is.
Its a completely different beast from Touchwiz 2.0.
Id take it over Sense UI, ive had Sense for over a hero on my HTC Hero.
That look awesome, i wonder where is this build came from.
Maybe some one could get hold so we can try it too.
Its a Froyo and doesn't look like a same UI we are using now on Éclair.
Yeah they somehow got the samsung widgets to work, with launcherpro, it looks fantastic though, and from the video, galaxy is handling it like a champ. that GPU does wonders for the live wallpaper.
plus im a big music head, Samsungs music player is far superior to any other music player available on android.
My bad i thought its a Froyo
Id also love to know how he is running a launcher over touchwiz....looks awesome.
you just download launcherpro off the market place....
people are all stressing about this touchwiz 3.0 and saying they dont want the galaxy because of the touchwiz....
you can easily replace it....i dunno what the big deal is about it.
Plus touchwiz adds a lotta other cool features besides the home.
but i heard running a launcher stops touchwiz from running? or was i mis informed?
Guys,
Just ditched my nexus 4 for s4 due to brightness and camera issues which I hated the most of nexus4 rest the speed etc was completely enough for a average user like me.
what i miss mostly of my nexus4 is simplicity, whereas s4 is too complicated to use due to tooo many features which are hard to understand.
what i want to know is it possible right now to make it simple as vanilla...
sorry if i wasn't clear enough to make you guys explain.
Thanks
p.s. in terms of these days phone, its sick!
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Guys,
Just ditched my nexus 4 for s4 due to brightness and camera issues which I hated the most of nexus4 rest the speed etc was completely enough for a average user like me.
what i miss mostly of my nexus4 is simplicity, whereas s4 is too complicated to use due to tooo many features which are hard to understand.
what i want to know is it possible right now to make it simple as vanilla...
sorry if i wasn't clear enough to make you guys explain.
Thanks
p.s. in terms of these days phone, its sick!
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Flash an AOSP ROM.
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coolraghav said:
Guys,
Just ditched my nexus 4 for s4 due to brightness and camera issues which I hated the most of nexus4 rest the speed etc was completely enough for a average user like me.
what i miss mostly of my nexus4 is simplicity, whereas s4 is too complicated to use due to tooo many features which are hard to understand.
what i want to know is it possible right now to make it simple as vanilla...
sorry if i wasn't clear enough to make you guys explain.
Thanks
p.s. in terms of these days phone, its sick!
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Just spend ten minutes looking through the settings and getting it how you want it. Pretty much all the features that you don't need can be disabled. If you've had a Nexus 4 I don't see how an S4 could be any more difficult to use to be honest.
Thanks for your reply wolf, is it as easy as it was with nexus4 or do i have to face any trouble. I'm completely newbie in all this.
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Just spend ten minutes looking through the settings and getting it how you want it. Pretty much all the features that you don't need can be disabled. If you've had a Nexus 4 I don't see how an S4 could be any more difficult to use to be honest.
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A. Settings, its easier in vanilla.
B.All the samsung apps are coming before
C. When I long-click an app in applications menu, i liked the idea of app info/uninstall
D. Hate samsung apps ..
Also how do i find what processor my phone is running ? As I'm not sure yet which processor in India they've released.
coolraghav said:
A. Settings, its easier in vanilla.
B.All the samsung apps are coming before
C. When I long-click an app in applications menu, i liked the idea of app info/uninstall
D. Hate samsung apps ..
Also how do i find what processor my phone is running ? As I'm not sure yet which processor in India they've released.
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They've released the i9500 version and you can check the Model number of the device:
Settings->last tab->About Device->Model Number.
Just install another launcher like Nova or APEX, they will give you the plain stock Android experience you are looking for. I have Nova running and it actually sped up my phone substantially. I also checked the RAM availability before and after using Nova and essentially stayed the same. Give it a try.
coolraghav said:
Guys,
Just ditched my nexus 4 for s4 due to brightness and camera issues which I hated the most of nexus4 rest the speed etc was completely enough for a average user like me.
what i miss mostly of my nexus4 is simplicity, whereas s4 is too complicated to use due to tooo many features which are hard to understand.
what i want to know is it possible right now to make it simple as vanilla...
sorry if i wasn't clear enough to make you guys explain.
Thanks
p.s. in terms of these days phone, its sick!
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nycrazyg said:
Just install another launcher like Nova or APEX, they will give you the plain stock Android experience you are looking for. I have Nova running and it actually sped up my phone substantially. I also checked the RAM availability before and after using Nova and essentially stayed the same. Give it a try.
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Plain stock? No not really lol. How do you get rid of black and neon green colors
i'm not fond of launchers eh.
guys how can I arrange apps alphabetically...its so hard finding an app now!! lol .. i miss my nexus .. haha somehow tell me how to make it plain n simple.
coolraghav said:
i'm not fond of launchers eh.
guys how can I arrange apps alphabetically...its so hard finding an app now!! lol .. i miss my nexus .. haha somehow tell me how to make it plain n simple.
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Will get my s4 tomorrow.. but in my s3, its done like this.. i am very sure its the same in the s4
Go to app drawer--> press menu button--> view type--> alphabetical grid..done
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mshaw03 said:
Just spend ten minutes looking through the settings and getting it how you want it. Pretty much all the features that you don't need can be disabled. If you've had a Nexus 4 I don't see how an S4 could be any more difficult to use to be honest.
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Chillz88 said:
Will get my s4 tomorrow.. but in my s3, its done like this.. i am very sure its the same in the s4
Go to app drawer--> press menu button--> view type--> alphabetical grid..done
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got it, thanks mate! i was just more used to 3 buttons @ bottom of screen (n4)
wednesday13 said:
Plain stock? No not really lol. How do you get rid of black and neon green colors
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Black and Neon Green colors? I'm guessing you haven't given Nova or Apex a try. It changes everything, homescreen, app drawer, and with Nova you can even set a theme color that changes the color accent colors of the Menus. I used to own a Galaxy Nexus, and I have the options using these launchers to revert everything to stock Android. Don't knock it until you try it, I mean really try it though.
coolraghav said:
i'm not fond of launchers eh.
guys how can I arrange apps alphabetically...its so hard finding an app now!! lol .. i miss my nexus .. haha somehow tell me how to make it plain n simple.
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If you're talking about Touch Wiz, the option is in the Touch Wiz app drawer. Hit Menu, then View Type, There's Alphabetical Grid, or Alphabetical List.
Just install nova or apex launcher. Works like a charm.
I prefer nova launcher though.
i'm coming from a nexus 4 as well i too hate all the preinstalled samsung apps, but I disabled most of them.
What I can't stand is the physical home button. Its not a deal breaker but i HATE IT
i switched from nexus 4 too.
things i hate about the s4:
1. back button on the right side because i usually use my phone with the left hand.
2. no recent apps button. so holding the home button is slow.
3. no aosp browser unless using doc's barebone rom. chrome and stock browser is so slowww compared to this.
4. bloated apps and bloated gimmicks features like smart and gesture things which slow down the phone. resolved by turning them off and using doc's barebone rom.
things to love on the s4:
1. nice screen, i mean really really great.
2. better camera than the nexus 4, the nexus 4 has cool tint, like blueish.
3. micro sd card
4. replacable battery, i mean just get the battery kit and have infinity battery. awesome.
Hello there,
Like most people, the TouchWiz on the new Samsung Galaxy S4 is the most annoying and useless thing on the planet. Its slow, laggy, and intrusive, and you are wondering who you want to improve your device. Not only is TouchWiz annoying you but some other things within the Samsung/Android OS are annoying you, well here are some of the best solution and work arounds to all problems that you may encounter on the Galaxy S4.
LAUNCHER
TOUCHWIZ IS NO GOOD. If you are any type of developer or someone who generally likes to customize their device, you will not enjoy TouchWiz. The look and feel are terrible, its slow and laggy, and everything about it just seems childish. So here the solution to that. If you want to you can Unlock, Root, and Flash ROM's on to your device, IF YOU ARE EXPERIENCED. You can easily brick your device if you do not follow the directions correctly and will lead to a lot of hair tearing out. If you want to Root and Flash then check some other threads out, Here is a easy solution on the Play store.
Go and check out some of the Launchers in the Play store. There are so many to choose from. I personally used ADW on my Xoom, but now on my S4 I am using Nova Launcher Prime. This is a little pricey at $4.00 but is well worth it. You can do almost anything in the means of customizing the device. Grid size can be changes, animation, screen transition style. The long you play around with the Launcher more and more you find it can be customized easily. Plus the best part about Nova Prime is that you now have a "Stock" Android feel, plus is runs perfectly. If this Launcher isnt your first chose there is also Apex, Smart, Holo, Buzz, and Launcher 8. These launchers can be changed at any time and make your device completely your own.
APPS
Samsung put a lot of bloatware on this device. You will not use a lot of it. So how to you get rid of all of this software... Disable all apps that you are not going to use, NOT PROCESSES. Disabling these apps will ensure that they are not used and are not using up your battery. This ensures that what isnt important wont be used and use battery.
Stock apps that Samsung has are.......ok nothing to rave over. The Messaging app is a pain along with the Music Player. Ive replaced the Messaging app with GO SMS Pro, and then switched it to be default. Other Messaging apps include Messaging 7 and Sliding Messaging Pro, SMP is very laggy and is in Beta stages right now. For the Music Play I use NexMusic, which works perfectly. These apps ensure the best experience with the phone. I also replaced the Lockscreen with an app called Widgetlocker. I set the lockscreen in the settings to be NONE and then set up my Widgetlocker. This is a much better lockscreen than before.
Battery is always a major concern for all users, and BatteryGuru is awesome, its from Qualcomm and it helps with the processor usage. I will get into detail on how to conserve battery life in another section.
If you dont like a certain app that cannot be removed, and you want to find an alternate check YouTube and the Play store, or you can message me and I will help you with the problem app.
BATTERY
Improving battery life is such an important issue. Samsung has a lot of things that will kill your battery and give the phone a bad name in the battery division. Heres how to improve it. TURN OFF EVERYTHING. If you are not using GPS, Bluetooth, AirView and stuff like that, then turn it off. All it does is use battery... and a lot of it. I only have Sync, and or Wifi and Mobile Data depending on my location. Watch what settings and services you have running and you can save a lot of battery as long as you just turn off stuff that you are not using.
App management is huge. When you finish using apps make sure to delete it in the Multitasking tray, otherwise is will continue to run and use battery. Again, disable the unused app and manage usage on the others.
MOST IMPORTANT is the Screen, its a huge display. The higher the brightness, the less battery you are going to have. Also, with they type of screen this is, if you can use a black background you dont have to light up those pixels on the screen, which will save a ton of battery. Set the timeout to the lowest settings and make sure that you dont run a ton of graphic heavy apps or anything like that.
Overall manage you apps, screen, and services and you can get two days out of the phone. ALWAYS get a Full charge cycle. Run the battery dead and then fully recharge, but dont leave it on the charger. This will optimize the performance of the battery and phone.
QUESTIONS
If you have any question, send me a message and I can answer whatever question that you have. If I get enough request I can make a video to show these features. It will help, so let me know if any of you want a video.
Wow man, I like touchwiz. I ran AOSP for a year in my S3. I'm happy with touchwiz features. Hate the way it looks. Wish we had theme engine for touchwiz! Thanks for the tips. You definitely would enjoy liquid smooth. AOSP based rom!
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TouchWiz?
mike216 said:
Wow man, I like touchwiz. I ran AOSP for a year in my S3. I'm happy with touchwiz features. Hate the way it looks. Wish we had theme engine for touchwiz! Thanks for the tips. You definitely would enjoy liquid smooth. AOSP based rom!
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TouchWiz is good in some regards, but it has a long way to go in the means of easy of use and smoothness. Trying to get some new Android phone to put some ROMS on, but sticking with my S4 with Nova. If you saw a setup video on this would you think it would help?
Thanks for the reply, they help so much.
I just tried a AOSP based rom and it was blazing fast. I just miss the camera and features too much. I really need to get off my ass and theme it out with images from my favorite theme engine theme. The beautiful thing about android is there is no right or wrong. It's all about freedom and the users choice to choose exactly what they want. The other beautiful thing is if your on the more intelligent side you can run both. Have both backed up and nandroid away
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Missing Cuban said:
TouchWiz is good in some regards, but it has a long way to go in the means of easy of use and smoothness. Trying to get some new Android phone to put some ROMS on, but sticking with my S4 with Nova. If you saw a setup video on this would you think it would help?
Thanks for the reply, they help so much.
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Would specifically do you want to set up. The phone itself out nova?
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I prefer T/W with either Nova or Holo HD I also don't or won't pay for apps.
I've been flashing Roms since my S2 and I've flashed practically every aosp and aokp ROM for the S3.
As soon as the devs started offering tons of mods and themes for T/W I went back cuz I prefer the stability of T/W.
To each his own right now on my ATT S4 I'm running a Kanged GE ROM that's very smooth and fast.
I really don't care about battery life since I have a 7500 mAh ZeroLemon battery that I get 40 hours of run time.
Flash what you want find out what you enjoy most and have a nandroid. Have a blast with this wonderful device.:thumbup::thumbup:
"Zed"Zed's baby Zed's dead"
s4freak said:
I prefer T/W with either Nova or Holo HD I also don't or won't pay for apps.
I've been flashing Roms since my S2 and I've flashed practically every aosp and aokp ROM for the S3.
As soon as the devs started offering tons of mods and themes for T/W I went back cuz I prefer the stability of T/W.
To each his own right now on my ATT S4 I'm running a Kanged GE ROM that's very smooth and fast.
I really don't care about battery life since I have a 7500 mAh ZeroLemon battery that I get 40 hours of run time.
Flash what you want find out what you enjoy most and have a nandroid. Have a blast with this wonderful device.:thumbup::thumbup:
"Zed"Zed's baby Zed's dead"
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Why wouldn't you support developers? People work hard to bring you these apps. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I hate free apps. Always buy if there's a option to. I suppose you don't donate to developers neither huh
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mike216 said:
Why wouldn't you support developers? People work hard to bring you these apps. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I hate free apps. Always buy if there's a option to. I suppose you don't donate to developers neither huh
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You don't know me.
I support devs and I have my other screenname on their donaters list to prove it.I do with my money what I wish I work hard enough for it.
I buy what I want to buy. You spend your money how you see fit.
Have a great day.
"Zed"Zed's baby Zed's dead"
This is your own opinion obviously. Because I don't agree with half of this..sorry
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Wow man, I like touchwiz. I ran AOSP for a year in my S3. I'm happy with touchwiz features. Hate the way it looks. Wish we had theme engine for touchwiz! Thanks for the tips. You definitely would enjoy liquid smooth. AOSP based rom!
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Agreed here.
TheAxman said:
This is your own opinion obviously. Because I don't agree with half of this..sorry
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Agreed here.
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I tried a good AOSP rom yesterday because I was bored on my day off. Cane back to Touchwiz in 3 hours. It's so boring after a year of being on it faithfully. To each there own. Touchwiz is really growing on me. Love the features and amazing battery life. It's just as fast using omega and ktoonsez! I average over 4 hours of screen on time over 23 hours of idle time! Great combo
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I ran nothing but aosp on the G3..hated tw..one day got tired of the continous bluetooth issue...went back to tw..haven't left it since. For the G4 tw rocks. I have ran most of the G4 aosp roms...BORING. same ole stuff. It is always going to be this against that. And I am sorry, but the tw rom is better in the battery dept. Way better.
Ax's opinion only.
TheAxman said:
I ran nothing but aosp on the G3..hated tw..one day got tired of the continous bluetooth issue...went back to tw..haven't left it since. For the G4 tw rocks. I have ran most of the G4 aosp roms...BORING. same ole stuff. It is always going to be this against that. And I am sorry, but the tw rom is better in the battery dept. Way better.
Ax's opinion only.
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Best video player ever made, I'm always using the motion gestures to answer phone in the car. I'm a mechanic who really appreciates the hand gesture for all kinds of reasons. No more tricks to get my sixaxis controller working. Smart stay is one can't live without once use to it. The stock browser is unmatched speed wise. I'm sure I can keep going but those are a couple reasons I prefer to run touchwiz for everyday use. The touchwiz crowd grows bigger with every new galaxy S release. Me being one with this last release
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mike216 said:
Best video player ever made, I'm always using the motion gestures to answer phone in the car. I'm a mechanic who really appreciates the hand gesture for all kinds of reasons. No more tricks to get my sixaxis controller working. Smart stay is one can't live without once use to it. The stock browser is unmatched speed wise. I'm sure I can keep going but those are a couple reasons I prefer to run touchwiz for everyday use. The touchwiz crowd grows bigger with every new galaxy S release. Me being one with this last release
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Wow my friend in the heat of the battle. Exactly my thoughts. If you have a phone with these features, and you have a rom that does not use them, whats the point? Could have just stayed on the G3.
Ax's opinion only.
Battery with all the features enabled. Running at a clock speed range 189-1998
80% Brightness. I ****ing love it
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S3 was my first Samsung device. I didn't care for touch wiz for a long time, not because of the gesture control or anything, but because of the app drawer being to the right and the bloated bulkiness of it. I ran aosp rooms for quite a while but then started playing with touchwiz based roms. I found synergys room and stayed on that until I got my s4. Now I use stock rooted which I have debloated and modded to near perfection. I get pretty good battery and experience little to no lag. I'm starting to enjoy gesture and all the touchwiz features (ir blaster is awesome).
Pretty much any flavor of Android is customizable and debloatable, so the only thing that you can really hate is the fact that you have to manually mod it (which is the best part of owning an android).
Sorry for the long post just don't understand such a strong hate for a different flavor of Android. ...
I don't know why there's so much hating of t.w sure its not great but then again neither is aosp there's also tons of issues on cm and p.a for that matter.
All of my devices(look at my SIG)are on cm or something aosp and honestly I've gotten to the point that I'm so bored of aosp and cm always Bluetooth issues or some little bug.....with the s3 u needed cm but so far on my s4
I'm on stock rooted deodexed ROM with over locked kernel and it runs amazing.Just use a launcher man and use tibu to remove bloatware this way u get better battery.
I get like almost 16 hours with almost 4 hrs screen time and over clocked CPU and GPU some people probably are just running mad sh#t on the background and that's why your phones are as#ed out.
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Idk about you but this is pretty good for me look.
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You see what i mean....
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sk8trix said:
Idk about you but this is pretty good for me look.
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Looks good my friend but you have a battery problem. Google services should not be showing up there. Look for the new market. Version 4.1.10 there's a location bug fix and I highly suggest you read this thread. It solved my problem! Haven't had battery life like this ever in this phone. Here's the thread and here's a pic of today's user so far! Absolutely insane battery life
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Been off the charger all night to go along with that screen on time
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Sorry forgot to post this thread for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2338487
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Hey all, I was in John Lewis playing with the new Z2. I noticed that the live wallpapers were really slow and the transition between pages seemed a low frame rate. No way near as fluid as on the Galaxy Notes. I was a bit surprised, surely as the latest and greatest device it can eat any live wallpaper for breakfast?
I was planning on buying the Z2 LTE but I was a little put off by what I saw. I closed down all the running apps on the device but it was still not smooth. I put on the stock water drop live wallpaper and it ran even more stuttery than on my Nexus 7 (1st gen)!! Surely that can't be right.
I expect my Dualboot Games live wallpapers to run buttery smooth on my next tablet!
Was that just a freak occurrence or is that just how it is? Hopefully one of you guys can put my mind at rest or I will pass on this one.
Forget this stupid stock launcher. Totally irrelevant.
I don't understand how people judge a device by preinstalled crap.
Install another launcher (Nova, whatever), and there you go.
Live wallpapers are battery eating, superfluous s**t anyway.
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Forget this stupid stock launcher. Totally irrelevant.
I don't understand how people judge a device by preinstalled crap.
Install another launcher (Nova, whatever), and there you go.
Live wallpapers are battery eating, superfluous s**t anyway.
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What is there to understand? I had to judge it on that cos it was a display model in the shop. I cant go customising it lol. Thats why Im on here asking the question from people that own one.
Was it the stock Sony launcher at fault? Is the stock launcher really that bad or is the device just like that regardless? For a premium device I would expect the stock launcher to perform at a decent level at least.
As for live wallpapers being superfluous s**t, that's irrelevant. Its been a feature of the OS for a long time now and I was surprised that the device struggled so badly with it. Like I say with seemingly less performance than my Nexus 7.
I was ready to buy one but from what I saw in the shop it made me nervous to drop £500 on it. So Z2 Tablet owners how is the device performing with 3rd party launchers? Im really expecting it to be silky smooth even with a live wallpaper running (obviously I understand some LWP's are badly made and slow no matter what device).
Any comments appreciated!
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What is there to understand? I had to judge it on that cos it was a display model in the shop. I cant go customising it lol. Thats why Im on here asking the question from people that own one.
Was it the stock Sony launcher at fault? Is the stock launcher really that bad or is the device just like that regardless? For a premium device I would expect the stock launcher to perform at a decent level at least.
As for live wallpapers being superfluous s**t, that's irrelevant. Its been a feature of the OS for a long time now and I was surprised that the device struggled so badly with it. Like I say with seemingly less performance than my Nexus 7.
I was ready to buy one but from what I saw in the shop it made me nervous to drop £500 on it. So Z2 Tablet owners how is the device performing with 3rd party launchers? Im really expecting it to be silky smooth even with a live wallpaper running (obviously I understand some LWP's are badly made and slow no matter what device).
Any comments appreciated!
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Are you complaining about the launcher or the wallpaper? If it's the launcher, I barely see any lag at all. For the wallpaper it will depend on the wallpaper, the tablet is very powerful with a decent graphics chip, but if whichever wallpaper you are using is badly coded it won't make a difference.
When the tablet in the shop was fresh out of the box, it's no wonder that it was lagging. For instance, the media scanner will run and other first-time apps and background services will be started. An Android device is always only at it's real snappiness a few hours after first start.
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When the tablet in the shop was fresh out of the box, it's no wonder that it was lagging. For instance, the media scanner will run and other first-time apps and background services will be started. An Android device is always only at it's real snappiness a few hours after first start.
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It wasn't new out the box, it was on the display. They had rows of demo units on display. I closed down all the apps too. There was a lot open from people playing around with it.
jai23 said:
Are you complaining about the launcher or the wallpaper? If it's the launcher, I barely see any lag at all. For the wallpaper it will depend on the wallpaper, the tablet is very powerful with a decent graphics chip, but if whichever wallpaper you are using is badly coded it won't make a difference.
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It was more the wallpaper. I tried the default Android water ripple one and it was really slow, slower than on my Nexus7. Also the standard Sony wallpaper. Swiping through the screens it just wasn't as fluid as the Galaxy Note also on display. Must say it shocked me a bit.
Do you own one? Im after gauging what its like for people that actually own one. Because I know what I saw on display but I only had a short time with the device. I am asking what its like for you guys that own one. Is it smooth and fluid with 3rd party launchers? Do live wallpapers slow it down a lot? I know there are badly made LWPs but Im talking about good wallpapers, does it handle them ok?
I had been waiting for the Z2 to come out but after playing with it Im having second thoughts. I want my next tablet to be hassle free. I dont even want to be flashing roms, Im fed up with that, I want it to be slick straight out the box.
Im considering one of the Tab Pro's or even a Win 8 Pro tablet. I played with a Sony Tap 11, I know its a different device altogether but that thing impressed me! Its so light considering its a full i5 PC.
Slick straight out of the box? Seriously, take an iPad or a Windows machine.
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It was more the wallpaper. I tried the default Android water ripple one and it was really slow, slower than on my Nexus7. Also the standard Sony wallpaper. Swiping through the screens it just wasn't as fluid as the Galaxy Note also on display. Must say it shocked me a bit.
Do you own one? Im after gauging what its like for people that actually own one. Because I know what I saw on display but I only had a short time with the device. I am asking what its like for you guys that own one. Is it smooth and fluid with 3rd party launchers? Do live wallpapers slow it down a lot? I know there are badly made LWPs but Im talking about good wallpapers, does it handle them ok?
I had been waiting for the Z2 to come out but after playing with it Im having second thoughts. I want my next tablet to be hassle free. I dont even want to be flashing roms, Im fed up with that, I want it to be slick straight out the box.
Im considering one of the Tab Pro's or even a Win 8 Pro tablet. I played with a Sony Tap 11, I know its a different device altogether but that thing impressed me! Its so light considering its a full i5 PC.
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Yes I own one, I've had no problems with lag of any sort.
Thanks Jai23, I will take that on board.
Hasenbein that's funny but sadly true!
I am going to have a think about it and try get another demo of the Z2. What I would really like is the latest Asus Transformer that comes with Tegra 4 graphics. That's the kind of graphics grunt I know I would like but they don't do an LTE version for some reason.
The Adreno 330 in the Tablet Z2 has at least (!) as much "graphics grunt" as the Tegra 4! If you notice lag, it's not because of the "graphics grunt"!
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Gizmodo Review - they say the same: Simply forget stock launcher crap, install another, be happy with a really great tablet!
http://gizmodo.com/sony-xperia-z2-tablet-review-hardware-triumph-softwar-1565712780
Ok guys, based on your replies I will go give the Z2 another demo. Especially now I've learnt that the Tap 11 isn't 4G.
My next tablet absolutely must have 4G. Its surprising there isn't much choice when it comes to 4G on tablets. All top end phones have it but not tablets.
tumpin said:
Hey all, I was in John Lewis playing with the new Z2. I noticed that the live wallpapers were really slow and the transition between pages seemed a low frame rate. No way near as fluid as on the Galaxy Notes. I was a bit surprised, surely as the latest and greatest device it can eat any live wallpaper for breakfast?
I was planning on buying the Z2 LTE but I was a little put off by what I saw. I closed down all the running apps on the device but it was still not smooth. I put on the stock water drop live wallpaper and it ran even more stuttery than on my Nexus 7 (1st gen)!! Surely that can't be right.
I expect my Dualboot Games live wallpapers to run buttery smooth on my next tablet!
Was that just a freak occurrence or is that just how it is? Hopefully one of you guys can put my mind at rest or I will pass on this one.
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I have been using my Z2 with some high res games and have not had any problems, a fantastic tablet.
I have gone ahead and ordered one, delivery Friday.
Its been a long time since I bought Sony. I used to buy nothing but Sony but their build quality and service went down hill and let me down so I boycotted them. Their latest stuff caught my eye though. We are in this together now guys..
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What is there to understand? I had to judge it on that cos it was a display model in the shop. I cant go customising it lol. Thats why Im on here asking the question from people that own one.
Was it the stock Sony launcher at fault? Is the stock launcher really that bad or is the device just like that regardless? For a premium device I would expect the stock launcher to perform at a decent level at least.
As for live wallpapers being superfluous s**t, that's irrelevant. Its been a feature of the OS for a long time now and I was surprised that the device struggled so badly with it. Like I say with seemingly less performance than my Nexus 7.
I was ready to buy one but from what I saw in the shop it made me nervous to drop £500 on it. So Z2 Tablet owners how is the device performing with 3rd party launchers? Im really expecting it to be silky smooth even with a live wallpaper running (obviously I understand some LWP's are badly made and slow no matter what device).
Any comments appreciated!
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I dont see why you wouldnt try customising it. on the demo model in john lewis, I found an open wifi network, logged on with my google account, installed antutu and minion rush and tested them both to see how well it ran (very nice). Then I removed my account from it again. problem is the tab pro 10.1 also ran very nicely!
Also, there are going to be a number of software updates from sony that will fix issues like poor live wallpaper response. Although I too think they are resource hogging garbage!
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Late reply considering that you've bought it but the reason that the store one was laggy was because it had been on for a LONG time. Given it a reboot should have fixed it.
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Hamza Murad said:
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Late reply considering that you've bought it but the reason that the store one was laggy was because it had been on for a LONG time. Given it a reboot should have fixed it.
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Yep very well might have been that. I did try closing all in the switcher but maybe a reboot was needed. The poorly optimised Sony live wallpaper doesnt help either. Makes the device look slow! Im happy with it now!
hasenbein1966 said:
Forget this stupid stock launcher. Totally irrelevant.
I don't understand how people judge a device by preinstalled crap.
Install another launcher (Nova, whatever), and there you go.
Live wallpapers are battery eating, superfluous s**t anyway.
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Agreed
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Yep very well might have been that. I did try closing all in the switcher but maybe a reboot was needed. The poorly optimised Sony live wallpaper doesnt help either. Makes the device look slow! Im happy with it now!
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Received mine yesterday, and it is pretty damn nice. I had the TF700 for a while, and it seems so slow compared to the Z2, that old thing.
But you do have to install your own launcher, dont use that Sony crap, not so bad compared to usual stock, but other launchers are so much more customizable, why would you want to keep it stock!
Just waiting for a root option without losing the ability to backup DRM keys...
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Received mine yesterday, and it is pretty damn nice. I had the TF700 for a while, and it seems so slow compared to the Z2, that old thing.
But you do have to install your own launcher, dont use that Sony crap, not so bad compared to usual stock, but other launchers are so much more customizable, why would you want to keep it stock!
Just waiting for a root option without losing the ability to backup DRM keys...
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I to am looking at getting this tablet. Anyone using action launcher on it? I own all the paid launchers except for that one.
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Hey all,
Need a new Android phone and I think the Note 4 is the way to go, I've had one before and I enjoyed it but that was a while ago. Note 5 doesn't have the removal battery that I need.
I hate the Samsung theme though it's so ugly, so is there any way I can change it easily to something stock android looking with a custom rom?
Thanks
jameslfc5 said:
Hey all,
Need a new Android phone and I think the Note 4 is the way to go, I've had one before and I enjoyed it but that was a while ago. Note 5 doesn't have the removal battery that I need.
I hate the Samsung theme though it's so ugly, so is there any way I can change it easily to something stock android looking with a custom rom?
Thanks
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offtopic- don't buy a note 4 its has aged now ....camera isn't too good and it lags.
jameslfc5 said:
Hey all,
Need a new Android phone and I think the Note 4 is the way to go, I've had one before and I enjoyed it but that was a while ago. Note 5 doesn't have the removal battery that I need.
I hate the Samsung theme though it's so ugly, so is there any way I can change it easily to something stock android looking with a custom rom?
Thanks
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I love my Note 4 so I would highly recommend it. The Note 5 is a total deal-breaker for me with no removable battery and no SD card slot either. The mind boggles with those choices by Samsung. Anyway, I totally support the move to the Note 4. It is a damn fine phone. Although the second poster is right, the camera can tend to lag. But personally, it's not a big issue for me. In fact, I've just upgraded to an S7 so we can sell it and get a Note 4 for my best friend. That's how much we love this model.
As for theme changing, the easiest way to do that is to just load a launcher onto your device. Even the best launchers have free options.
My top 3 favourite Launchers are Nova, Apex and LINE Launchers.
If you prefer fancy widgets and 3D options, look at Go Launcher or Next Launcher. But they are riddled with ads for their other products.
You will find a lot more options available through a Launcher in terms of customising your device to look and feel how you want it to. For most, it's as simple as downloading a theme and activating it through your launcher settings. Very easy and straight forward.
You don't need a custom ROM for that, http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/official-layers-bitsyko-apps-rro-t3012172
And this is one of the best time to buy Note 4 by the way, price is low, camera is still solid, one of the fastest I have used, don't know exactly how much faster the camera on the Note 5 is to call Note 4 camera laggy and slow!, but it is irrelevant to me, can't ever touch a mess of greasy glass nuisance.
Anthro.Girl said:
I love my Note 4 so I would highly recommend it. The Note 5 is a total deal-breaker for me with no removable battery and no SD card slot either. The mind boggles with those choices by Samsung. Anyway, I totally support the move to the Note 4. It is a damn fine phone. Although the second poster is right, the camera can tend to lag. But personally, it's not a big issue for me. In fact, I've just upgraded to an S7 so we can sell it and get a Note 4 for my best friend. That's how much we love this model.
As for theme changing, the easiest way to do that is to just load a launcher onto your device. Even the best launchers have free options.
My top 3 favourite Launchers are Nova, Apex and LINE Launchers.
If you prefer fancy widgets and 3D options, look at Go Launcher or Next Launcher. But they are riddled with ads for their other products.
You will find a lot more options available through a Launcher in terms of customising your device to look and feel how you want it to. For most, it's as simple as downloading a theme and activating it through your launcher settings. Very easy and straight forward.
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Thanks everyone for your comments.
Anthro- I am receiving my Note 4 today and need it for a long plane journey so I can have a removable battery and keep a spare, also I want the SD card function to switch between the phone and my GoPro on holiday. Hopefully with a ROM like Dr.Keaton it will be fast and smooth. As for the theme advice, thanks for that but I like a full theme which themes the full system like the setting and pull down menu etc. I am sure Iw ill figure this all out tonight when playing with my phone.
I may consider the Note 5 in the future but I can't seem to get one in the UK at the minute.
Thanks again