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Behold 2 - TouchWiz is horid!

Please Please Please for the love of everything that is Android, someone port Cyanogen's rom over to the Behold 2.
What a horrible implementation of font and gui changes. Samsung has turned what I deem to be an incredibley useful, pleasing gui, into a mishmash of horrible fonts.
If I had any modding know how, i would be all over getting this TouchWiz off the phone. The formfactor of the phone is great, camera works wonderfully, etc etc...but that Touchwiz...geeeeez
Again I beg those that know a lot more than I! Please eradicate this poor phone of its TouchWiz virus.

yeah, it's awful! Not sure what Samsung was thinking... anyone able to get a recovery from the galaxy going on their behold II?

loL!
im shaking in my boots. i hope this does not come on any updates for the MOMENT. ill stick with 1.5 instead of Touchmywiz .moreover if this is what BADA has in store theyre doomed already.

Yes, it should definitely be put out there that if you are used to any other stock or slightly modified Android install, this implementation will be practically unusable for you.
The phone stutters scrolling the menus, pauses between screens, etc etc. Touchwiz is really killing this phone.
I guess I have 13 days now. If I see no hope for some kind of rom i will for sure be returning it.

Just saw a demo of TouchWiz during a Behold II unboxing. It. Looks. Awful. It's almost as if they did it for the sake of being "different" at the cost of usability. Yuck.

I like it, but i suppose you could just get GDE, aHome or even try porting Cyanogen's home over.

The only thing I like from the touchwiz is the music player. Would there be a way to pull that and install it on the G1 or Cliq?

Custom rom isnt going to be easy..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4997648&postcount=27
If you really hate touchwiz, you can install openhome from the market. It will give you a more stock look and feel.

Wii60 said:
I like it, but i suppose you could just get GDE, aHome or even try porting Cyanogen's home over.
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Cyanogen's home = Launcher.apk in AOSP
Looks like a resource hog, I know it has a sh*t load of RAM (320mb :-O) but I'd rather it went to something more useful than some 3d cube thingy.

kam187 said:
Custom rom isnt going to be easy..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4997648&postcount=27
If you really hate touchwiz, you can install openhome from the market. It will give you a more stock look and feel.
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I'm fairly sure that TouchWiz will still be running in the background. So yeah you'll get a more stock feel, but it will be hindered slightly.

you could probably make a script to root and kill it. Just run that on every boot.

Why is there so much hate for TouchWiz 3.0?

Why is there so much hate for TouchWiz 3.0? It seems to add a lot of the little functionality that vanilla android is missing. It seems to add even more functionality than Sense, but without all the super flashy resource sucking effects that sense has.

I think it's because the TouchWiz 2.0 interface on the Behold 2 was pretty much hated by everyone since it just made things uglier and added no/few useful actual features. However most people who've USED 3.0 seems to like it. The movies of it that I've seen looks very promising!
I will see for my self when I get home from work. My Galaxy S arrived today

gazabi said:
I think it's because the TouchWiz 2.0 interface on the Behold 2 was pretty much hated by everyone since it just made things uglier and added no/few useful actual features. However most people who've USED 3.0 seems to like it. The movies of it that I've seen looks very promising!
I will see for my self when I get home from work. My Galaxy S arrived today
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Personally I really like it. Tried ADW launcher, etc, but switched back as I saw no reason to use them (pinch to view all tabs and default centre tab only real advantages). Also tried Handcent but again switched that off (pop ups were nice tho)

Epic Running Htc Sense? Need Help Asap

I have to choose either epic or evo tomorrow, and would like the epic cause of the screen quality and the video quality.. but the evo has sense and i simply cant live without it..my question is would there anytime soon be a sense port to the epic? cause i would love to have the best of both worlds.. i dont want no alternative widgets ect..i want sense on that amazin amoled screen...

If I can remember there was a team of people trying to port it, but haven't heard from then in awhile
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It's being worked on right now. by 2 devs, 2 good devs, who will most likely have it done a few days after the official froyo release.

Sense? Are you serious? Just go get an EVO cause if your buying an Epic to put Sense on it you could be waiting forever. And also the Epic is to nice a phone to ruin it with Sense.
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get the EVO, we don't need another "krazie" in here posting in the wrong section.
OP reported as belonging in the general section.

If you want Sense, just get an Evo. No port will function 100% like official Sense from HTC. Personally, I hate all these customized launchers from manufacturers (Sense, Touchwiz, etc.) as they're slow and laggy, and I just use LauncherPro (ADW is great as well).

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It's being worked on right now. by 2 devs, 2 good devs, who will most likely have it done a few days after the official froyo release.
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LOL..yea ok. I know its being worked on, but its far from being even close

Fck sense I had it on mts3gs and its nothing special,how about porting Xperia X10 Rachel or Acer Breeze ui they look way better and offer way more functionality,i even like our Epic's Twiz better than sence.

Yeahh i was just trying to get the thread over with. i hate stupid questoins

I thought I would miss sense when coming from the touch pro 2 to the epic. Boy was I wrong.. sense is so slow in comparison to the eic running launcher pro or adw.. sense has sme cool features but nothing that you can't download or add with launcher pro.. but if you really want 100% sense go with the evo.. I'm sure either way you won't be dissapointed
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I personaly like sense and hate touchwiz however owning both an evo (wife) and epic (myself) I can tell you performance/battery/screen...etc wise the epic is a better phone. I miss sense as well but nothing you can't be without. Get the epic!

thanks to everybody who gave me positive feedback. to all the rude people making smart comments, i would like to cuss you guys out but im going to be an adult about the situation. with that being said, Im going to get the evo..simply because I believe the camera will be modded by developers..i have seen the youtube videos and all and have been blown away by the epics quality as far as audio and video camera..but i simply cant live without sense..the calender and peep widget and email widget have me in love

benbenondatrack said:
thanks to everybody who gave me positive feedback. to all the rude people making smart comments, i would like to cuss you guys out but im going to be an adult about the situation. with that being said, Im going to get the evo..simply because I believe the camera will be modded by developers..i have seen the youtube videos and all and have been blown away by the epics quality as far as audio and video camera..but i simply cant live without sense..the calender and peep widget and email widget have me in love
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I love sense. Its amazing..but launcher pro pretty much has me covered with its sense like widgets..if you stay on a few minutes ill post scree shots

lviv73 said:
Fck sense I had it on mts3gs and its nothing special,how about porting Xperia X10 Rachel or Acer Breeze ui they look way better and offer way more functionality,i even like our Epic's Twiz better than sence.
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I've agreed with him before and I agree once again
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lviv73 said:
Fck sense I had it on mts3gs and its nothing special,how about porting Xperia X10 Rachel or Acer Breeze ui they look way better and offer way more functionality,i even like our Epic's Twiz better than sence.
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What you like isn't really relevant to the OP.

Check out this thread and the video. Had the guy fooled into thinking it's SenseUI but it's actually just a theme and widgets. Take a quick look at it, you might just find it suites your taste.

+1 for adw
Sense is aright, but really....on the epic...
I hate TW myself. So went with adw and never looked back! My roomie has adw on his evo and would never go back to sense.
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+1 to the Launcherpro comment. The widgets are just as nice, if not better because of the better speed.
I don't believe there is a email widget though... the Samsung email application is simple enough and handles emails like a dream though, the exchange calendars sync right up to, AND the launcherpro widget can pull in everything even from the Samsung calendar app. It's fairly nice.
It's really all about personal preference, I'd pick based on the pros and cons of each that aren't software related, because even if the official sense never makes it to the epic there are alternatives that will do the same thing, look just as good, and be faster and easier on the battery. At the heart of Android lies Linux.. and like anything Linux you can customize to your hearts content.
The Epic trounces the Evo in terms of performance, the evo has a bigger screen but the epics is higher quality, battery life is better on the epic, the evo gets faster updates but the epic in theory might get them longer with the superior hardware, the epic has a pretty good hardware keyboard the evo has an awesome touch screen keyboard (which can be installed on the epic), epic 3D performance is outstanding while the Evo's is so-so but not bad, the evo's build quality seems better and the epic feels less solid due to its keyboard slider (you will have that tiny tiny amount of play in the screen even closed like most slider phones have). List goes on and on. You can't go wrong with either really.

Just watched that video of "pseudo sense" hilarious.....
you can get anything you want, to look like anything you want for android. You just gotta be persistent. If you like the Hardware of the Epic, go with the epic. You might get tired of Sense.
I have the Epic and the Evo.. Rocked the Evo for a week and a half and went back to the Epic. Just better quality screen and got bored of Sense.

I been using Go Launcher on the epic and I like it better than Launcher Pro may wanna try it out its free and uses less memory.

HTC Sense Vs TouchWiz (what a difference)

Coming from HTC Desire & HTC Desire HD to Samsung Galaxy S 2, there is only one think i realize. Whatever HTC lacks in hardware, it more than makes up for it in software. HTC Sync works flawlessly. You want to convert into usb? no problem. Integration with contacts? works out of the box. I am stuck here for at least 2 hrs trying to make my new mobile to sync with Kies, with no luck. Before it turned into a USB, now not even that. (and yes i know about the debugging option). Same with software, linking is not as efficient, TW not as customizable, resulting in downloading 3rd party apps to do the things that you took for granted with HTC. So far, excluding hardware, I am really disappointed with my new purchase :/

I also came across from a Desire - HTC Sync was a pile of crap, just like Kies when it's not working. When Kies works, it's waay better, not that I bother using that either - everything just syncs to my Google account(s).
As for Sense vs TW, I admit the contacts linking/integration is far better in Sense, but as for one being more "customisable" than the other, nonsense - neither interface is particularly customisable, other than widgets, which I think you're referring to. Sense had some nice ones included, but TW has too. The only one I miss from Sense is the combined clock/weather one, but you can get something which looks almost as good using the digital clock and Accuweather widgets.

That's what I first though when I exchanged my desire for a galaxy s about a year ago. You'll get used to and when you do, you will start to appreciate how good the galaxy s2 is in the other areas.
I did miss sence after switching but now I don't look back especially with the super amoled screen!

i had a desire and desire z
hate sense
i love the new touchwiz. not even using go launcher any more

Always try to find a way to sync over a google services. nothing is so easy an comfortable than syncing with google on an android.
i just love how it shows all my podcasts when i download google listen and i'm good to go. i know its simple, but it just works
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To me Tw is the lightest skins..it's almost stock but better.
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tw gives closest to stock android experience. Thank god samsung don't use anything like sense or blur.
Sense is just too heavy for me.
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i honestly hate sense ui , its a ram hog , its a battery drainer , its more complex then it needs to be and to be honest for me it is just a waste of time
give me a plain android o/s or touchwiz anyday
i actually prefer go launcher to any of them but sense ui for me is just annoying overkill with a few nice weather animations
if i wanted sense ui i would have bought the sensastion but i wanted a phone that was based on power not one based on a pretty o/s that is a resource hog
why not stop neing disapointed and just sell the sgs2 and buy a sensation?? job done you can then be a happy person again

I love TW 4 and I use the stock launcher as well ...however it would be awesome to see Sense on this beautiful display - The eyecandy that Sense has is great
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I had sense on my Nexus One and while I tried it for a while I simply found it to be too heavily modded. Obviously it works for some but TW has been a pleasant, more stock experience so far (Coming from launcher pro). If I ever go back to HTC I'll be making sure an AOSP based rom is available before hand

Sense is something like UI overhaul of whole android. You may like it, but it is not android experience at all (except you can launch android apps).
TW is also too heavy for me, but except weird mail app it leaves android logic in place.
Black fact is, that you will have hard times to find anyone calling himself a "touchwiz hater", but you can definitely find a lot of Sense haters (take a look on any HTC related forum).
This makes your argumentation problematic and thereby very subjective, but I understand that not everyone have same feeling about HTC -> Sammy migration as me.
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Because we are on android, you can try other UI called MIUI. I found it really nice and polished. There are some features I don't like, but its worth try IMO.

buxz777 said:
i honestly hate sense ui , its a ram hog , its a battery drainer , its more complex then it needs to be and to be honest for me it is just a waste of time
give me a plain android o/s or touchwiz anyday
i actually prefer go launcher to any of them but sense ui for me is just annoying overkill with a few nice weather animations
if i wanted sense ui i would have bought the sensastion but i wanted a phone that was based on power not one based on a pretty o/s that is a resource hog
why not stop neing disapointed and just sell the sgs2 and buy a sensation?? job done you can then be a happy person again
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+1 i don't necessarily hate HTC Sense but definitely better off without it and everything you've said is spot on.

OP said himself it's eye candy and already added battery drain, RAM hogger by other user.
Meaningless thread IMO.

JirkaX said:
Coming from HTC Desire & HTC Desire HD to Samsung Galaxy S 2, there is only one think i realize. Whatever HTC lacks in hardware, it more than makes up for it in software. HTC Sync works flawlessly. You want to convert into usb? no problem. Integration with contacts? works out of the box. I am stuck here for at least 2 hrs trying to make my new mobile to sync with Kies, with no luck. Before it turned into a USB, now not even that. (and yes i know about the debugging option). Same with software, linking is not as efficient, TW not as customizable, resulting in downloading 3rd party apps to do the things that you took for granted with HTC. So far, excluding hardware, I am really disappointed with my new purchase :/
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Some devs are working on a sense but there is very little progress yet but I am with you coming from a Desire running a Sense 2.1-3.0 mix, TW is quite a disappointment

I always had an HTC before my GS2, and I definitely prefer TouchWiz.

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Ill b happy with sense 2.1. Not 3. I don't care what sensation owners tell you, rooted or not, the sensation lags worse than my aging og droid.

Meh... TW4 is okay. Pretty standard rom. Not too heavily modified like Sense, but not too bare like stock, just in the middle. Firstly,I love Sense's eye candy . I'm not a big fan of TW4. Using MIUI and that was the best thing I've ever done.
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blunted09 said:
Ill b happy with sense 2.1. Not 3. I don't care what sensation owners tell you, rooted or not, the sensation lags worse than my aging og droid.
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Sensation may lag, but the evo 3D is speed demon. I love sense so much, its so clean and useful for me. I love the notification bar layout, the polished widgets, the awesome text selection quick look up utility,and just how everything is so intergrated.
I had the epic 4g galaxy S phone and i hated it. Touchwiz on it was absolutely awful for me. Such an ugly ui on froyo.
Now with that said,i am still going to be switching to sprints version of the galaxy s2 come September 16th in hopes that touchwiz has improved since its last iteration.

Sense and TouchWiz both are very nice imho. Sense is SO integrated and clean and a perfected shot at a well made Android experience. TouchWiz is also nice, and I love TW 4.0. I have the launcher for whenever I feel like having a TouchWiz... touch... (lol) to my phone. Sense's widgets, themed overlay, etc., make it a very good experience. But WAY too heavy and cumbersome.
And whoever said Sensations lag... you must be extremely dense. Both the Sensation and EVO 3D are so blazing fast it's unbelievable. And on AOSP ROMs? I hit 4500 on quad easy. Sense is what makes the phone lag, not the phone itself.

[Q] So, has anyone come to like TouchWiz?

After a tried & true CM guy (running it on my 3 tablets, 3 different phones), I'm not sure I can stand to lose some of the features that TW provides (unless of course they were runnable in AOSP):
- voice control of lock screen/camera
- air gestures
- all the S4 specific sensors
- and one lil thing I've come to like more than swiping between pages in the app draw: the pagination dots! I've come to really like those, especially since I've got like 8 pages of apps
I just wish I had the look of AOSP, configurability, control, etc.
One TW thing that irks me: apps drawer on the far right & not movable.

I use Nova launcher which lets you customize the look quite a bit. And all the TW goodies are still available.

I like touch wiz it ain't bad over all especially with some tweaking.
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Didn't like it when I got my epic 4g, but I got used to it after awhile.

After 4 years with Sence, I'm loving the look and features of TW.

I'm getting used to it. I got sick of Sense so its nice to have a change anyway. I just hate how resource hoggy it is.
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gharlane00 said:
I use Nova launcher which lets you customize the look quite a bit. And all the TW goodies are still available.
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Great suggestion. I've got both Nova and Go launchers on my phone, and like what they do for me w/o messing with TW. I like Go a little better because it rotates the home screens with the device, something Nova does not.
I'm a fan of TW so far. I also came from the HTC Sense world, and while there are pluses and minuses to both, I'm overall happier with TW.

I really like the small things like the swiping texting or call when I contact lists, the direct call when you have a contact pulled up.
I like the number of texts, email or missed calls displayed on the app
So i have definitely grown to like tiuchwiz
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yea i love touch wiz and sense.. this is my 2 samsung phone.. i was with htc for a while.. i like the change.. i hate aosp.. i just cant get used to it..

I love TW!!! Coming from every rom you can find on my Evo3d the GS4 rocks!

jejb said:
Great suggestion. I've got both Nova and Go launchers on my phone, and like what they do for me w/o messing with TW. I like Go a little better because it rotates the home screens with the device, something Nova does not.
I'm a fan of TW so far. I also came from the HTC Sense world, and while there are pluses and minuses to both, I'm overall happier with TW.
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For the record Nova lets you rotate your home screen as well.
I have never understood to intense hatred that still exists for TW. True at one point it was a smothering overlay that killed performance but now it is a smooth "MOD" that I like more than "Pure" android especially since Samsung's best goodies live on TW.
Let the flames begin!

This is the 11th Android phone I've owned, and for the first time ever I'm not in any hurry to flash an AOSP rom. TW really does offer a lot of features that I would miss if I went to AOSP. I'll probably try CM when we have a stable build, but in the meantime I really couldn't be more happy with this phone as it came out of the box.
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For the record Nova lets you rotate your home screen as well.
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Thanks! I figured out where to select it. So now I'm back on Nova. But both are great launchers.

Me! I love TouchWiz from the SIII and onwards!
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Now if only TouchWiz + Halo together...

I was a big sense UI fan from the hero, Evo, Evo shift. I always kepts it on Sense ui even tho CM was a hell of a lot fast on it and didnt kill the battery as much. I liked the look and feel of sense ui. Then i went to the Sii and took some getting use to and since the SII i went to the SIII and now on the S4 and I have grown to love it. I still have Nova Launcher for a quick change if i get bored but i always end up back on TW.

The one thing I can't stand is the fact that the location of the app drawer is fixed.. If it weren't I would at least consider not using Holo Launcher

twaffle said:
Now if only TouchWiz + Halo together...
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I'd sh!t my pants... I PRAY that it come true soon. With all these amazing devs I wouldn't be surprised!

Joe0113 said:
I'd sh!t my pants... I PRAY that it come true soon. With all these amazing devs I wouldn't be surprised!
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I would think it'd be possible, depending on what TouchWiz does under the covers.
Really, I actually *like* TouchWiz on the S4. I haven't started playing with any ROM's even though I'm now rooted because I like the functionality I have and I'm afraid I'd lose it.

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I would think it'd be possible, depending on what TouchWiz does under the covers.
Really, I actually *like* TouchWiz on the S4. I haven't started playing with any ROM's even though I'm now rooted because I like the functionality I have and I'm afraid I'd lose it.
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TW custom ROMs have all of the TouchWiz features... hence why they are TouchWiz ROMs lol.