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Battery Life Thread

Our smartphones have the highest battery capacity a smartphone has ever had (not including Galaxy Note which isn't really a smartphone anyway).
Unfortunately, people get mixed results with the battery.
In this thread, post your battery life results and personal usage. It could help people see the potential our battery actually has and could also help stop battery woes.
It will also be interesting to see the results from different ROM's and different kernels.
Here's what you post:
- Display time
- That battery graph thingy
- Battery mA statistics (install this app).
Posting screenshots of the above would be MUCH more helpful than just saying, 'Oh, my phone lasts 2 days with heavy usage.' Heavy usage is variable for each individual, so being specific would be much better.
Please also post your personal configurations, ie. brightness at x%, 3G on, Wi-Fi on xminutes, 'Tasker' profiles etc.
Hopefully, if people participate, we will be able to identify how people get great battery life and how some people get really bad battery life. Then we could compare personal configurations and see what settings/apps/tweaks affect battery - in a positive or negative way.
This should also clean the forums of the daily 'bad battery life' thread's in the forums.
I will keep some posts reserved for the future, where there could be battery tips as well as the highest display time and the lowest mA statistics.
Good luck!

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This is just a suggestion for future reference. It would probably be best to keep stats/results/tips separated by either "CM-based" or "Blur-based" ROMs.
I haven't turned on BMW yet so I will update this post once I get results.

live4nyy said:
This is just a suggestion for future reference. It would probably be best to keep stats/results/tips separated by either "CM-based" or "Blur-based" ROMs.
I haven't turned on BMW yet so I will update this post once I get results.
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Good idea, I'll do that once this thread starts to develop a bit.

Well my battery hasn't been normal ever since I flashed but
Rom-Neutrino 2.2 (GT-S ADDON)
Kernal-Faux123's 024 1.3ghz
Brightness-always at minimum
3g-most of the time when I'm not home
Tasker-you see that little green guy in the top left...
WiFi-its on all day when I'm home (no data plan)
Btw the link to the mA stats didn't work.
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Battery life will vary by individual device hardware performance, individual battery performance, ROM, radio, kernel, apps installed and running/not running, how many times you reboot, how much data you use, wifi usage, bluetooth usage, etc., etc.
There is no way to compare everything which is a factor because there are too many factors. Every device is basically completely custom unless you take 2 or more completely identical stock devices and do some battery studies on those without changing anything. Even then you won't capture the differences in actual performance differences from hardware and battery performance which will vary across all the sample devices.
The best you are going to get is people just saying which ROM, radio, and kernel they use, and the up-time they get. In reality, this will be no different to any other battery life reporting done in many other threads. Comparing apples to oranges to pears. Better to just start a "who has the longest battery life" thread.

I believe this is more of an attempt for users to "compare notes", so to speak. It might help people understand why they are getting the battery life they are and maybe there might be people who can collaborate on which setups will meet their needs and obtain the type of battery life they want. At the very least, it could give users (with similar configurations) a place to see if they are actually experiencing any issues or if it is the norm with said configuration.
Also, this could be a step in consolidating a frequently discussed issue and in return reduce the number of new posts on the same subject.
CaelanT said:
Battery life will vary by individual device hardware performance, individual battery performance, ROM, radio, kernel, apps installed and running/not running, how many times you reboot, how much data you use, wifi usage, bluetooth usage, etc., etc.
There is no way to compare everything which is a factor because there are too many factors. Every device is basically completely custom unless you take 2 or more completely identical stock devices and do some battery studies on those without changing anything. Even then you won't capture the differences in actual performance differences from hardware and battery performance which will vary across all the sample devices.
The best you are going to get is people just saying which ROM, radio, and kernel they use, and the up-time they get. In reality, this will be no different to any other battery life reporting done in many other threads. Comparing apples to oranges to pears. Better to just start a "who has the longest battery life" thread.
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I came from a Galaxy S (since in my country there are issues with Galaxy S2 signal), Atrix is really nice (this is my 2nd day on it), but about battery, the same rom but different kernel always do different results, last one on galaxy S gave me 2 days on battery with low to med use, but in Atrix world, in the few post I have read, I just noted that Atrix arent the same, looks like there are 3 versions of it (sorry if i am wrong, I am new into Atrix) ATT seems to be one and the 2 others tegrapart versions, do you think this also could make difference on the batt duration?

CaelanT said:
Battery life will vary by individual device hardware performance, individual battery performance, ROM, radio, kernel, apps installed and running/not running, how many times you reboot, how much data you use, wifi usage, bluetooth usage, etc., etc.
There is no way to compare everything which is a factor because there are too many factors. Every device is basically completely custom unless you take 2 or more completely identical stock devices and do some battery studies on those without changing anything. Even then you won't capture the differences in actual performance differences from hardware and battery performance which will vary across all the sample devices.
The best you are going to get is people just saying which ROM, radio, and kernel they use, and the up-time they get. In reality, this will be no different to any other battery life reporting done in many other threads. Comparing apples to oranges to pears. Better to just start a "who has the longest battery life" thread.
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Yes every phone is different, but the battery's are exactly the same...
The fact that the hardware is a tiny bit different on each device will make negligible difference on battery life.
What will make the difference are personal preferences. This is why I'm requesting people to post their own one so that we could all get tips on how to decrease battery drain.
Anyways, let's kickstart things off. Here's mine - I'm losing 1%/hour on idle, with 3G on, brightness on auto and autosync on.
I only downloaded BMW yesterday, so I don't really know how it works. But something I noticed was that the mA keeps decreasing. Why?
And another thing, is the screenshot attached what you would refer to as 'good battery life?' I'm not complaining, but I'd like to see what mA people are normally getting while idling as well.
EDIT: Oh, and just in case... I'm running (custom) Neutrino GT ROM with Faux123's 024 1.3Ghz kernel.

I'm a new user to Motorola Atrix, only got it for a week. The first two charges were good (still had the stock rom-no root yet) afterwards I installed neutrino 2.2 and battery doesn't last long. My previous HTC Desire lasted idling for 14 hours and more at the same settings: HSDPA only with data, bluetooth on paired with bt headset and several apps with push notifications.
These are today's results:
Seems hopeless!

i flashed a cm7 image. i had a battery issue. i drained it, plugged it in, charged it to 100% per batterycalibration, and have had excellent battery life.
tia,
rotty022

rotty022 said:
i flashed a cm7 image. i had a battery issue. i drained it, plugged it in, charged it to 100% per batterycalibration, and have had excellent battery life.
tia,
rotty022
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same here, under regular conditions (normal phone use, a few phone calls, a ton of texts and probably about 5 hours a day of streaming audio) i'm usually around 30% when i go to bed each night, that's 16 hours on battery
this is on cm7.2 kang (most recent version)
my battery life was pretty terrible until i did the trick above

harisled said:
I'm a new user to Motorola Atrix, only got it for a week. The first two charges were good (still had the stock rom-no root yet) afterwards I installed neutrino 2.2 and battery doesn't last long. My previous HTC Desire lasted idling for 14 hours and more at the same settings: HSDPA only with data, bluetooth on paired with bt headset and several apps with push notifications.
These are today's results:
Seems hopeless!
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This is the 'bluesleep' bug in my ROM.
It will be fixed in the next update.
For now, move the files in the attached .zip to /system/xbin and set permission to 777. It will considerably improve your battery life.

Using 2.2 WE from notorious, getting about 4hrs on average of screen time... Pretty aggressive uv as well as uc to 912mhz.
A lot of Web browsing for a mmorpg, texting roughly 10-20 a day, around an hr of phone calls, sometimes less, screen is set to auto, 2gmail accounts updating via push and weather updating every 2 hrs.
I don't know what else to say except a little earlier in Neutrino's post someone said freezing via tibu the following apps (Bluetooth share, truepoint something or other, as well as sensor navigation and atrix settings) since doing the above, as well as my other personal settings and usages I'm looking at 5 to 6 hours screen time today... Here is a couple of screen shots of what I go to so far.
Also, using 77.36 radio and gps USA mod from notorious and the v6 script.
Sent from my Neutrino'd (M)Atrix 3.5G

That was on ICS mod browsing reddit, playing n64 emulator on auto brightness 1GHZ. Then I switched to SUPEROSR and now only get about 2-3 hours of screen time

Notorious544d said:
This is the 'bluesleep' bug in my ROM.
It will be fixed in the next update.
For now, move the files in the attached .zip to /system/xbin and set permission to 777. It will considerably improve your battery life.
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Thanks for the reply and the help, I did that and left it from 100% overnight and after ~5 hours i got 55% same consumption.. (after I moved and changed permissions, I rebooted)

I was getting horrible battery life (less than 10 hours of use) from the day I got my Atrix, purchased second hand. After installing watchdog lite, I found that the suspend process was continually draining my battery. I encountered this issue on every CM7 based or Blur based rom, and was not able to find any solutions.
After recently upgrading to Joker's ICS rom, this issue is gone, and now after 10 hours of use still have a 56% charge on the battery.
Not sure if anyone else is having issues with the 'suspend' bug, but joker's rom has been a Godsend, can actually use my phone for a whole day now.

Alright I got one for you guys.
I recently flashed Neutrino GT and had the battery show 96% as max. I preceded to recalibrate the battery and got it back to showing 100% again for a few charges. Now somehow its reverted back to maxing out at 96%. I haven't flashed anything since I recalibrated. Thoughts?

Android 4.1.1 Jellybean Battery Life Thread

Seeing how a new firmware came out on the Nexus S, I want to see what kind of battery life everyone is getting on Android 4.1.1 Jellybean. And since everyone cares about battery drain one way or the other, we can use this thread to post tips on getting more battery life and/or try to figure out what's causing battery drain.
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Anyway, PLEASE include these when showing your battery usage:
What ROM/kernel/Governor you're using
A combination of the three can determine why/how you're getting the battery life you're getting. Also, post thread link for the ROM/Kernel if you can.
SCREEN ON TIME
Probably the most important thing to know when determining battery life. Since the screen uses the most juice and generally the amount of time we'd be looking at our screen, the screen on time is very important to show. You can get this by going to Battery > Screen
YOUR GENERAL USAGE
How you used your phone is another important determining factor of how your battery was used. If you took pictures or listened to music, that would explain why you got such low battery life. More information the better.
IMAGES
Images help as it gives information which would be probably be too difficult to describe. The Battery section in the Setting section would help as would Battery monitoring apps
A simple template would be the following:
Code:
[B]*IMAGES[/B]
[B]ROM[/B] -
[B]KERNEL[/B] -
[B]GOVERNOR[/B] -
[B]GENERAL USAGE[/B]
blahblahblah
[B]CONCLUSION[/B]
blahblahblah
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ADDITIONAL TIPS
- Show images of CPUSpy. May help see if your CPU is running out of whack or if, for some reason, is running on 1000MHz too much.
- BetterBatteryStats app screenshots. It gives a much better detail on what's waking up your phone, what apps are using it, and so on. You can buy it HERE. It's a very good app to monitor battery usage.
- More images the better. So we know what's going on with your phone.
PLEASE DONT
- Embed too many images to your post. It'll be too difficult to look at this thread with hundreds of images being embedded at the same time. Plus, people looking on mobile phones would probably struggle opening the page. If you have a lot of images, please just post the link and not an image
Anyway, thanks! Hopefully we can get amazing battery life on Jellybean!

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ROM - Jellbean 4.1.1 OTA from here: http://goo.gl/AXr2d
KERNEL - Default/Stock kernel
GOVERNOR - Default/Stock
GENERAL USAGE
Usage was, in my opinion, light and didn't really do much. Most of the time, I was on 3G only to go on WiFi when in a Starbucks. I turned off my phone when watching The Dark Knight Rises and trying to save the most battery but that didn't really seem to help. I used the camera once in a while but didn't listen to any music.
CONCLUSION
So far, this battery seems kind of... bad. Especially with my usage (which I thought was light), I thought I could get more screen on time than just 2h 14m. I'm a tad disappointed and might go back to ICS just for the better battery life.

ROM: Unofficial CM10 by Lego
Lazy gov. Air kernel test 112.
The 2 hours of screen usage were from playing temple run, xda, and fb.
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That's a good cycle IMO ^. Have you done a factory reset OP? Force of habit has me doing it anytime I do an update to avoid any issues. It also seems like you have a crappy signal at times. I haven't had a chance to actually judge battery life but mine seems to be on track to be about the same as it was as on ICS though.

chronophase1 said:
That's a good cycle IMO ^. Have you done a factory reset OP? Force of habit has me doing it anytime I do an update to avoid any issues. It also seems like you have a crappy signal at times. I haven't had a chance to actually judge battery life but mine seems to be on track to be about the same as it was as on ICS though.
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It's weird because I'm using the same radio as on ICS and I seem to be getting worse signal on Jellybean? I might reflash a new JB ROM and try that instead.

I have a 2300mAh battery on stock JB i might upload some screenies later but i havent seen the battery life decrease it seems to be the same
Kind Regards
AlanS181824

JB battery life better than ICS

jokkir said:
It's weird because I'm using the same radio as on ICS and I seem to be getting worse signal on Jellybean? I might reflash a new JB ROM and try that instead.
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Yeah. I'm gonna probably go back my KF1 radio once I update my ROM tonight.

IMO I always do a preliminary test the battery when the phone switch to airplane mode in a night, if the drain only 1% then the ROM is quite good.
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Heh. I wish my phone idled that well. Haha.

chronophase1 said:
Heh. I wish my phone idled that well. Haha.
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Right? I miss the GB battery life, could leave GPS and 3g on all night, not touch it, and lose 2% in 10 hours. With ICS I was grateful if I could get it down to 1.5%-2% in an hour. And Google Now is too awesome to turn stuff off for, so JB is even worse
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My battery life is absolutely horrible. I think my battery is bad though. I've had it since I got the phone. When the nexus came out.
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Its one of those pay to play situations. My job has places for me to safely charge my phone so the battery isn't too big a deal for me. Best bet is to carry a spare charger. It is after all a pocket computer. Sucks, but until battery tech catches up, there isn't much us or many other smartphone users can do.

I think the background sync drains battery when idle. With sync on during idle, the batt drops ~3-6%/hr. If sync is turned off, it becomes ~1%/hr. (using 3G)

Exactly what Google things syncing would cause such a drain? I have this type of usage but all I have is Gmail syncing and I only get a few emails a day. I have obviously noticed increased life disabling Gmail, but how could it be using so much if it is push?

I'm getting, at least, the double than before...stock, unrooted

I don't understand this.....
The only thing using CPU is Android system at 5-15%... why is this happening? The screen was off for at least 8 minutes
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Since it just started up, and I'm guessing it is syncing like crazy. Calendar, instant upload if you have that in G+ or drop box chrome, contacts, drive, Gmail... Etc. Location is happening (maps, and latitude), checking for updates, weather. Check again in an hour and see if it has settled.
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I havent noticed a problem with my battery. It's actually been pretty much the same. I go almost the entire day not charging it on normal use (almost 12 hrs). Heavy use with me is constantly playing games, I get maybe 3-5 hrs depending on screen brightness. It's pretty much the same as ICS for me

Battery saving tips

I am gonna copy paste a thread I made for the t989 s2. It's all universal advice.
Yes... Root is required for a lot of this.
A nandroid backup first is a good idea.
Lots of this is common knowledge, but maybe not to some newer Android users.... So here it is.
About the only moto x specific thing I can add is freeze all that motorola stuff. Even the com.motorola stuff. If you really want active display.... Keep it, I did. I went a few days without touch less control and now it's back on. Gonna see if my battery gets effected. If you're not sure what some of this com. Motorola stuff is, you can google it.
So.....2 things I personally think work best to solve battery draining issues.
1. GSAM from playstore. It will tell you what apps are draining your battery...the top of the app list will be your main culprits. Then you need to find out why? You can check what apps are waking your phone and for how long. Gsam can tell you a lot if you play around with it and see what it can show you.
2. Cpuspy, also from play store. A simple yet easy way to see if your phone is deep sleeping. Deep sleep should pretty much be your total up time....minus screen on time. Roughly. If it isn't, or you have no deep sleep time.....back to gsam to find out why.
Once you narrow down the app culprits ....then you can search on why.
One last huge thing I personally have done for a long time now....reboot after you unplug from charger. Every single time. This used to be a fix for not getting deep sleep....and I think it still is a good practice. (This doesn't really seem necessary on my X)
That's it. 2 apps and you can post your battery draining questions with a lot more info than simply saying..."hey....my battery life sucks."
Cause 9.5 times out of 10.....it has nothing to do with the rom you are using. Usually anyway.
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A couple other things.
Comparing our total battery time with each other is pointless and meaningless. You can drain your phone from 100 to zero in 3 hours playing certain games, or it can last 30 hours cause you barely touched it. The only reasonable comparison is screen on time. Period. Tho it can alter greatly as well. 3 hours screen time on a 3d game, or 7 hours watching movies. 5 or more mostly texting and browsing......but still, its a better way to compare.
Gps is a battery destroyer. Some people leave it on...and certain apps will use it whenever you open them.
Screen brightness is a huge factor.
Task killers usually do more harm than good. Personally I only use greenify, and only for apps I know drain batteries a lot. Like maps. If maps is part of the rom....I convert it to a user app with titanium backup and greenify it. Canada's weather network app is a battery hog. Greenify. Basically anything that tops my list with more than 10 percent in gsam gets greenified. My wife used to use Facebook app....I got her using the browser. The app sucked her battery and data sometimes. No....no notification now, but she's on it a lot....her eyeballs are her notification. 
Juice defender....great for very light users....a battery waster for medium to heavy users. Turning wifi and data on and off 200 times a day will kill more battery than it saves. Ever see the amount of times juice defender wakes your phone? LOL. I got as high as 1000 before I deleted it. Gsam told me that!
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone...

Here's the link to my S2 thread if anyone wants to read the discussions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461864
And this screen shot is my credentials. Lol
I have always got good battery life on any phone or rom... Cause it's my number one concern and all my attention goes to good battery life before anything else. It's also why I got the moto x over the G2..... I saw the battery life that some Moto X users were getting and it is right up there with average G2 battery life times. And I think the moto x is the better built phone.
Good luck!!
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kj2112 said:
Here's the link to my S2 thread if anyone wants to read the discussions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461864
And this screen shot is my credentials. Lol
I have always got good battery life on any phone or rom... Cause it's my number one concern and all my attention goes to good battery life before anything else. It's also why I got the moto x over the G2..... I saw the battery life that some Moto X users were getting and it is right up there with average G2 battery life times. And I think the moto x is the better built phone.
Good luck!!
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone...
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are you on jellybean?

Avide said:
are you on jellybean?
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Yup, 4.2.2 stock
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GSAM won't work on 4.4 without a helper app, which requires root. Android removed the ability to see battery stats without root. I love GSAM and installed the root helper.
As for location services, I use App Ops (and now App Opps X that I'm rooted) to remove the location privileges for certain apps as I do leave my GPS enabled at all times and monitor what apps actually use it. I'm fine with ones that poll it like once an hour or something, but I had an app that used about 45 minutes of GPS lock when I hadn't even run the app since reboot. I disabled location access for that app with App Ops and it's fine now.
I also have a root app called Disable Service which lets you stop services for a given user or system app.
All of these things I described do require root. Although App Ops can be used without root, it can do more with it.

kj2112 said:
Gps is a battery destroyer. Some people leave it on...and certain apps will use it whenever you open them.
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I leave high accuracy GPS on all the time, and have done so with all phones I've had with that option. I checked battery life with it enabled and with GPS off unless needed, and there was no appreciable change in battery life by turning GPS off. I haven't tested this on newer phones, but it was this way with my Fascinate. Considering Android does much better with managing sensors now, hardware has improved greatly, and the Fascinate was one of the worse phones for GPS ever, if a battery issue was going to happen, that was the phone to have it with.

imnuts said:
I leave high accuracy GPS on all the time, and have done so with all phones I've had with that option. I checked battery life with it enabled and with GPS off unless needed, and there was no appreciable change in battery life by turning GPS off. I haven't tested this on newer phones, but it was this way with my Fascinate. Considering Android does much better with managing sensors now, hardware has improved greatly, and the Fascinate was one of the worse phones for GPS ever, if a battery issue was going to happen, that was the phone to have it with.
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I also leave my GPS toggled "on" all the time (I use Power Control widget). It is actually only in use when it shows the GPS icon in the notification area, and I only look into it when it's on and I'm not using a location based app. If I find a problem I remove that app or disable the location services as mentioned in my previous post in this thread.
No real difference for me on battery life either, unless there is an offending app going crazy.

I'm willing to bet that on 4.4 with Google apps being even more integrated in the OS... That location services will shave at least some noticeable Battery life. Maybe not with an app as mentioned above, where you have control over what used gps. I'm on 4.2.2, but I'd be curious to see screen shots on 4.4...or even 4.2.2, of a full battery cycle with location services on.... And one off.
I know on my s2, if I forgot and left Gps on a while, it would eat my battery at least a 3rd quicker. Perhaps I had an app that abused gps, but it was pretty ugly anyway. Lol
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone...

Oh.... I guess without gsam... Screen shot won't be as useful. Lol
Another reason I'm sticking with 4.2.2.
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Turn off "scanning allows available while wifi is off", its under WiFi advance settings, scans for WiFi even if your WiFi is off, I don't know who and why that is even a setting but it is
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battery saver tips
kj2112 said:
I am gonna copy paste a thread I made for the t989 s2. It's all universal advice.
Yes... Root is required for a lot of this.
A nandroid backup first is a good idea.
Lots of this is common knowledge, but maybe not to some newer Android users.... So here it is.
About the only moto x specific thing I can add is freeze all that motorola stuff. Even the com.motorola stuff. If you really want active display.... Keep it, I did. I went a few days without touch less control and now it's back on. Gonna see if my battery gets effected. Of your not sure what some of this com. Motorola stuff is, you can google it.
So.....2 things I personally think work best to solve battery draining issues.
1. GSAM from playstore. It will tell you what apps are draining your battery...the top of the app list will be your main culprits. Then you need to find out why? You can check what apps are waking your phone and for how long. Gsam can tell you a lot if you play around with it and see what it can show you.
2. Cpuspy, also from play store. A simple yet easy way to see if your phone is deep sleeping. Deep sleep should pretty much be your total up time....minus screen on time. Roughly. If it isn't, or you have no deep sleep time.....back to gsam to find out why.
Once you narrow down the app culprits ....then you can search on why.
One last huge thing I personally have done for a long time now....reboot after you unplug from charger. Every single time. This used to be a fix for not getting deep sleep....and I think it still is a good practice.
That's it. 2 apps and you can post your battery draining questions with a lot more info than simply saying..."hey....my battery life sucks."
Cause 9.5 times out of 10.....it has nothing to do with the rom you are using. Usually anyway.
Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone...
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Thanks for the info... I will try this one...
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CPU spy shows only 13% deep sleeping.
I don't have root. How can I hunt down where the battery goes? Thanks

redhonker said:
CPU spy shows only 13% deep sleeping.
I don't have root. How can I hunt down where the battery goes? Thanks
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Are you on 4.2.2. If so... Gsam will tell you.
Apparently if your on 4.4....you have to be rooted.
Kinda seems google is slowly trying to be like iPhone... And not let you do stuff unless you are rooted. Lol
But you should be around or over 80 percent deep sleep. If not.... You have an issue. And 13 percent.... You have a big issue.
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The best battery tip would be to download GravityBox and enabling "Solid Black Display". Being that the screen is AMOLED, you're saving loads of battery without sacrificing anything.

flashallthetime said:
Turn off "scanning allows available while wifi is off", its under WiFi advance settings, scans for WiFi even if your WiFi is off, I don't know who and why that is even a setting but it is
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If you read the differences between 4.3 and 4.4, you'll notice what it is for. Google implemented the change to improve location accuracy with minimal effects on the battery. From my experience, while it looks like wifi is on all the time, it doesn't really do anything to battery life, but vastly improves location accuracy and lock time. So far, I've done next to nothing suggested in this thread, and I'm still coming home from work with about the same battery % remaining as I did on my Note 2. The best part is that my phone is probably doing more to affect battery life, but actually using less.

One thing I didn't say in my opening posts was that if someone is having trouble with battery life.... Do all this stuff... Then one at a time bring back things you miss... If one of them impacts your battery more than you care for.... You'll know what app or feature it is.
Everyone has different battery expectations and needs.... Some of my suggestions may seem too extreme for some people, or not at all for others.
I do everything I posted. I personally want every extra minute of screen time I can get.... But that's just me. Everyone has their own needs. I still enjoy my phone immensely... And use the functions I want for myself.... And see 5 to 6 hour screen times every charge. If some of my cuts are too much for some... That's totally understandable.
Btw.... I don't care for touch less control.... But with it on.... I pretty much lose one hour screen time. Luckily it's not a feature I care about... So it's off. Just an FYI.
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kj2112 said:
Are you on 4.2.2. If so... Gsam will tell you.
Apparently if your on 4.4....you have to be rooted.
Kinda seems google is slowly trying to be like iPhone... And not let you do stuff unless you are rooted. Lol
But you should be around or over 80 percent deep sleep. If not.... You have an issue. And 13 percent.... You have a big issue.
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Yeah, I am on 4.4, not rooted.
59% at 384 MHz
What are the Motorola services that I should disable?
I've gone through Apps Ops and disabled wake-lock on almost all apps. Any other ways to find out what's behind the scene?
Thanks

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Have no idea what I'm doing wrong
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All I've been doing us browsing Twitter, Instagram, and Google plus. I have no exchange accounts. Location on battery saving.
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My battery life is more or less the same. There's even less I can see without battery stats on KitKat. Try turning location off completely.

@MajorTankz I feel like it's the Signals. Cause when I'm at home, the battery lasts much longer.
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Looks like the signal to me, the decline seems consistent with WiFi to cellular/low signal back to Wi-Fi. Are you in an LTE area? I find that dropping to 3g in areas that I have poor LTE signal helps when I'm getting this type of drain
AT&T Moto X rocking rooted 4.4

theraffman said:
Looks like the signal to me, the decline seems consistent with WiFi to cellular/low signal back to Wi-Fi. Are you in an LTE area? I find that dropping to 3g in areas that I have poor LTE signal helps when I'm getting this type of drain
AT&T Moto X rocking rooted 4.4
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im in school, and im usually on 3G with 2 bars. its pretty bad.

8 hours, and still at 50% ?
doesnt seem that bad.

superkeest said:
8 hours, and still at 50% ?
doesnt seem that bad.
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but Im only at 1 hour SOT. for some reason, that doesnt seem right

Try some of this, or all. Half of it requires root tho.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2561392
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But yeah... Almost 8 hours with only an hour and a bit of screen time isn't ideal. I think allot of the motorola stuff is making your Android OS as high as it is. I've got mine down to about a 13 to 16 percent average by the end of my charge.
And if your screen is 50 percent with an hour time In 8 hours, you must be running it pretty bright.
Some people don't want to do the cutbacks I do, which is great.... But it will effect your battery for sure.
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kj2112 said:
Try some of this, or all. Half of it requires root tho.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2561392
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But yeah... Almost 8 hours with only an hour and a bit of screen time isn't ideal. I think allot of the motorola stuff is making your Android OS as high as it is. I've got mine down to about a 13 to 16 percent average by the end of my charge.
And if your screen is 50 percent with an hour time In 8 hours, you must be running it pretty bright.
Some people don't want to do the cutbacks I do, which is great.... But it will effect your battery for sure.
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Ok thanks, I'll try some of these, and Im usually on Auto Brightness.

Kittiesoncrack said:
Ok thanks, I'll try some of these, and Im usually on Auto Brightness.
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If you're rooted.... Try xposed, with gravity box module. There's an option to swipe along status bar to change brightness... Really handy and you can keep it as low as you can handle. Will save allot of screen juice.
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kj2112 said:
If you're rooted.... Try xposed, with gravity box module. There's an option to swipe along status bar to change brightness... Really handy and you can keep it as low as you can handle. Will save allot of screen juice.
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Not rooted yet. Im waiting for 4.4 for sprint to come, I will ota to that and then root.

Kittiesoncrack said:
Ok thanks, I'll try some of these, and Im usually on Auto Brightness.
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Auto-brightness drains the battery faster. It will cause the phone to poll the light sensor (frequently) and then constantly raise/lower the brightness of the screen. Odds are, you need it adjusted once and set there. Manual brightness doesn't need to poll the sensor or worry about what brightness level to adjust to.

imnuts said:
Auto-brightness drains the battery faster. It will cause the phone to poll the light sensor (frequently) and then constantly raise/lower the brightness of the screen. Odds are, you need it adjusted once and set there. Manual brightness doesn't need to poll the sensor or worry about what brightness level to adjust to.
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I changed to manual brightness. turned it to about 25%

The biggest transitional obstacle for me to overcome switching from the Note 3 was battery life. I got simply insane battery life with the Note 3 (around 8hrs SOT consistently) so I expected to be extremely disappointed with the battery life that I would get out of the Moto X. Much to my suprise this Moto X actually gets decent battery life. Honestly, in comparison to any other device other than the N3 it gets downright awesome battery life. I can't complain at all about my daily usage stats. I don't at all feel like my phone is on a leash. I can comfortably just use my device for 8-9:30hrs under heavy use and get 4-5hrs SOT. I'm sure if I adjusted my usage I could get even better battery life but due to my work I have to be on the phone constantly.
I have read some other posts with people saying that the battery life isn't good but I can only assume that they must have some app not functioning properly. Maybe something else is going on due to rooting or even exchange accounts or poor signal strength. I'm not really sure as I can't trouble shoot it myself. I was initially having issues after the Kit Kat update so I performed a few FDR in Recovery and all my issues are fixed. Even better, my battery life is even better now than it was prior to the update.
The other major difference this time around (I've gone into Recovery to FDR my MX twice now) is that I decided to not to use ART and I stuck with Dalvik this go round and it's made a substantial difference regarding battery life. I'll give it a few more days to see how it goes. After I get a good idea of how it performs I'll switch over to ART to see how it performs.
Keep in mind that none of my battery tests are scientific. This is all real world tests and first hand experiences. I just figured this may help someone or even ease a potential Moto X buyers mind a little.
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Moderate use, little use, more moderate use...lasted this long without a charge. Have been trying to drain all the way and charge all the way up almost every time to try and calibrate it correctly.
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Kittiesoncrack said:
Ok thanks, I'll try some of these, and Im usually on Auto Brightness.
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Maybe the setting just use battery saver

A2Trip said:
Moderate use, little use, more moderate use...lasted this long without a charge. Have been trying to drain all the way and charge all the way up almost every time to try and calibrate it correctly.
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You should not ever let your battery drain all the way. Lithium Ion batteries can't be calibrated the way Ni-Ca (Nickel Cadmium) batteries used to be able to. In fact draining a lithium ion battery makes your battery health worse and can lower battery life over time if you continually do this. Best to keep it above 20% if possible.

Adam7986 said:
You should not ever let your battery drain all the way. Lithium Ion batteries can't be calibrated the way Ni-Ca (Nickel Cadmium) batteries used to be able to. In fact draining a lithium ion battery makes your battery health worse and can lower battery life over time if you continually do this. Best to keep it above 20% if possible.
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All this time, I thought you need to drain the battery before charging it again..thanks for the info..

after updating to 4.4 my battery is absolutely terrible. 4.2... id get 4hours screen on time at minimum... holding for 30+ hours total. 4.4.... i'm seeing maybe 2 hours screen on time... holding for les than 20hours total.
wiped... did factory reset... no change. considering going back to 4.2.

Everyone roll your eyes: another battery question.

So, it seems like my battery isn't quite behaving itself. I've turned of Moto Display, underclock GPU to 300mhz, and switched to 1080p instead of 1440p, used Amplify to control wakelocks and Greenify to hibernate things that like to run in the background. I have never gotten more than about 1hr30min of screen time. My phone stays relatively cool unless I'm playing a lot of games or watching a lot of videos on YouTube. I have a handful of xposed plugins (Amplify, GravityBox, Greenify, NougatNavigation Bar (I like the solid icons rather than the lines that comes with stock N) and Status Bar Cleanup).
Anyone think I should get a new battery? Not under warranty, so I can't do anything via that route.
Also, is eBay a good enough place to find a replacement battery as long as I make sure it's not a counterfeit?
Thanks everyone for any help.

Can you be more specific what you mean by your battery not behaving itself? Random shut down or at any particular battery level? Sudden drop off battery percentage ofb10% or more shortly after charger disconnect? Has the unusual battery occurred after any specific updates to any of your apps? Have you tried a factory reset (I know it's painful but it does help on occasion)? Just throwing it out there.

Moppusan said:
So, it seems like my battery isn't quite behaving itself. I've turned of Moto Display, underclock GPU to 300mhz, and switched to 1080p instead of 1440p,
It doesn't make difference - restore default,
used Amplify to control wakelocks and Greenify to hibernate things that like to run in the background.
Doesn't work good on Nougat - you can use "background permission setter" app & "link2sd" for disable some apps
I have never gotten more than about 1hr30min of screen
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Standard is ~3-4 hours of SOT with any rom or kernel.
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Look into this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/help/strange-battery-behavior-following-t3716055

dzidexx said:
Standard is ~3-4 hours of SOT with any rom or kernel.
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I rarely ever got 3 hours... GSAM's average SOT over time was about 2h 20m... Although I did have occasional instances with 4 hours (on WiFi, reading, at night, very low drainage usage). Not really the point though
Should you replace the battery, well, from what you say it sounds like it is due... The real problem is getting a quality replacement. You can find a ton of them on eBay or other online markets, but most users here will tell you that you can't get an OEM battery any more no matter what the seller says, they just don't exist, and most of the ones that state "new" are just knock-offs or batteries for other devices that are re-purposed (and often of lower capacity). There is a serious market for cell phone batteries, and there are lots of counterfeits out and just out-right lies there, so the real problem is getting a good replacement battery. It is literally luck...
Remember, this device is 2.5 years old... Meaning most batteries for it were likely made prior to that. Although I paint a gloomy picture (it is a bit gloomy) there has to be some decent ones out there, but expect to pay $20+ and it will still be a crap shoot. Remember that when replacing the battery in this device, it isn't the easiest so do your homework. You will likely want a new back cover assembly (door and adhesive) as well because a good majority of the time they get destroyed when performing the operation.
Oh, and before you go down this road I suggest wiping your device... everything... and set it back up with the absolute bare minimum stuff (don't install anything if possible) for a couple days and retest your SOT. Not saying that's the case here, but Nougat's battery/app management is pretty good and we have seen more and more tales of things like Greenify/Amplify and other tweaks for helping battery life having the opposite effect, with some people noting the more they try to tweak it the worse it gets. Just a thought...

aybarrap1 said:
Can you be more specific what you mean by your battery not behaving itself? Random shut down or at any particular battery level? Sudden drop off battery percentage ofb10% or more shortly after charger disconnect? Has the unusual battery occurred after any specific updates to any of your apps? Have you tried a factory reset (I know it's painful but it does help on occasion)? Just throwing it out there.
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Quite a few times my battery would drop ~5-6% just after I remove it from the charger (regular USB power, not the turbo charger). I have tried a factory once and I let the battery do the "break in" period just to see if the battery was calibrated or not. So far it seems it is calibrated...I've also tried draining the battery until it my it shuts off, then using the turbo charger and letting it sit for like ~8 hours (I forget where I saw that specific bit of advice. It was in response to someone else posting...I don't even remember where. Possibly XDA, not 100% sure).
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I found my capacity to be 3034mAh...which is....quite odd. My battery isn't even fully charged.
acejavelin said:
I rarely ever got 3 hours... GSAM's average SOT over time was about 2h 20m... Although I did have occasional instances with 4 hours (on WiFi, reading, at night, very low drainage usage). Not really the point though
Should you replace the battery, well, from what you say it sounds like it is due... The real problem is getting a quality replacement. You can find a ton of them on eBay or other online markets, but most users here will tell you that you can't get an OEM battery any more no matter what the seller says, they just don't exist, and most of the ones that state "new" are just knock-offs or batteries for other devices that are re-purposed (and often of lower capacity). There is a serious market for cell phone batteries, and there are lots of counterfeits out and just out-right lies there, so the real problem is getting a good replacement battery. It is literally luck...
Remember, this device is 2.5 years old... Meaning most batteries for it were likely made prior to that. Although I paint a gloomy picture (it is a bit gloomy) there has to be some decent ones out there, but expect to pay $20+ and it will still be a crap shoot. Remember that when replacing the battery in this device, it isn't the easiest so do your homework. You will likely want a new back cover assembly (door and adhesive) as well because a good majority of the time they get destroyed when performing the operation.
Oh, and before you go down this road I suggest wiping your device... everything... and set it back up with the absolute bare minimum stuff (don't install anything if possible) for a couple days and retest your SOT. Not saying that's the case here, but Nougat's battery/app management is pretty good and we have seen more and more tales of things like Greenify/Amplify and other tweaks for helping battery life having the opposite effect, with some people noting the more they try to tweak it the worse it gets. Just a thought...
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I actually tried to replace the battery once and I did such a terrible job that I ruined the contact points on the ribbon that connects to the main board. I wish I could get a new phone (like a Pixel 2) but I have nowhere near enough income or funds set aside for that. Maybe later this year...hopefully...and not necessarily a Pixel 2 but something that runs very close to stock AOSP. I would definitely miss the 2 front facing speakers on anything else. I saw ZTE Axon 7 and the Razer phone has them too...but no idea how close they are to stock AOSP. Maybe I'll take the plunge into flashing the stock Nougat images and let it be naked for a few days. That sure would be annoying...but if it helps my MXPE survive in good shape until I can afford another phone I'm all in.
Thanks everyone for the help! I'll look into my options and hopefully I can get a bit more time out of this phone until I can afford a newer one that doesn't have the stupid Snapdragon 808. I shake my fist at thee, battery hog!

I'm on Nougat stock and I keep getting battery down at 25-35% regularely. I can see that when I put phone in charge after it shuts down percentage charge numbers start where power down happened at 25-35% Tried a battery calibrate weeks ago with a play store app. At first looked like it got fixed but just for a day or so and back with same problem. Also SoT is terrible, getting max 1h and if i do a heavy use even less and I dont even use social media at all. No idea if its a dead battery or software problem seeing I was on custom rom before i reverted back on stock nougat. Waiting for a decent Nougat modem stock Rom to try it once again to see if a difference or not.

andromobilogy said:
I'm on Nougat stock and I keep getting battery down at 25-35% regularely. I can see that when I put phone in charge after it shuts down percentage charge numbers start where power down happened at 25-35% Tried a battery calibrate weeks ago with a play store app. At first looked like it got fixed but just for a day or so and back with same problem. Also SoT is terrible, getting max 1h and if i do a heavy use even less and I dont even use social media at all. No idea if its a dead battery or software problem seeing I was on custom rom before i reverted back on stock nougat. Waiting for a decent Nougat modem stock Rom to try it once again to see if a difference or not.
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"Battery calibration" apps don't work... The proper way to "recalibrate" a battery in modern Moto devices is https://motorola-global-en-uk.custh...moto-g4-g4-plus/topic/battery/battery-reset/1
Honestly, if this does nothing, try a cache wipe, and if that doesn't help do a factory reset. If that fails as well, then the battery is likely beyond it's useful life (becoming more and more common lately) and will need to be replaced if you can find a quality replacement. There is no "trick" to getting the battery back.
It seems these batteries were engineered for 18-24 months of life and that is about it, as most modern devices themselves are only intended for a max of 24 months of usable life anyway... They sure seem to drop off significantly in charge capacity after that point.

Try this app? AccuBattery
After a couple of charge cycles it shows my battery at 89% of max. My manufacture date is 11-16-2016, so just over a year old. Of course, the battery could have been made before then by some months, I don't know.
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