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All I've been doing us browsing Twitter, Instagram, and Google plus. I have no exchange accounts. Location on battery saving.
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My battery life is more or less the same. There's even less I can see without battery stats on KitKat. Try turning location off completely.
@MajorTankz I feel like it's the Signals. Cause when I'm at home, the battery lasts much longer.
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Looks like the signal to me, the decline seems consistent with WiFi to cellular/low signal back to Wi-Fi. Are you in an LTE area? I find that dropping to 3g in areas that I have poor LTE signal helps when I'm getting this type of drain
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theraffman said:
Looks like the signal to me, the decline seems consistent with WiFi to cellular/low signal back to Wi-Fi. Are you in an LTE area? I find that dropping to 3g in areas that I have poor LTE signal helps when I'm getting this type of drain
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im in school, and im usually on 3G with 2 bars. its pretty bad.
8 hours, and still at 50% ?
doesnt seem that bad.
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8 hours, and still at 50% ?
doesnt seem that bad.
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but Im only at 1 hour SOT. for some reason, that doesnt seem right
Try some of this, or all. Half of it requires root tho.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2561392
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But yeah... Almost 8 hours with only an hour and a bit of screen time isn't ideal. I think allot of the motorola stuff is making your Android OS as high as it is. I've got mine down to about a 13 to 16 percent average by the end of my charge.
And if your screen is 50 percent with an hour time In 8 hours, you must be running it pretty bright.
Some people don't want to do the cutbacks I do, which is great.... But it will effect your battery for sure.
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Try some of this, or all. Half of it requires root tho.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2561392
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But yeah... Almost 8 hours with only an hour and a bit of screen time isn't ideal. I think allot of the motorola stuff is making your Android OS as high as it is. I've got mine down to about a 13 to 16 percent average by the end of my charge.
And if your screen is 50 percent with an hour time In 8 hours, you must be running it pretty bright.
Some people don't want to do the cutbacks I do, which is great.... But it will effect your battery for sure.
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Ok thanks, I'll try some of these, and Im usually on Auto Brightness.
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Ok thanks, I'll try some of these, and Im usually on Auto Brightness.
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If you're rooted.... Try xposed, with gravity box module. There's an option to swipe along status bar to change brightness... Really handy and you can keep it as low as you can handle. Will save allot of screen juice.
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If you're rooted.... Try xposed, with gravity box module. There's an option to swipe along status bar to change brightness... Really handy and you can keep it as low as you can handle. Will save allot of screen juice.
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Not rooted yet. Im waiting for 4.4 for sprint to come, I will ota to that and then root.
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Ok thanks, I'll try some of these, and Im usually on Auto Brightness.
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Auto-brightness drains the battery faster. It will cause the phone to poll the light sensor (frequently) and then constantly raise/lower the brightness of the screen. Odds are, you need it adjusted once and set there. Manual brightness doesn't need to poll the sensor or worry about what brightness level to adjust to.
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Auto-brightness drains the battery faster. It will cause the phone to poll the light sensor (frequently) and then constantly raise/lower the brightness of the screen. Odds are, you need it adjusted once and set there. Manual brightness doesn't need to poll the sensor or worry about what brightness level to adjust to.
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I changed to manual brightness. turned it to about 25%
The biggest transitional obstacle for me to overcome switching from the Note 3 was battery life. I got simply insane battery life with the Note 3 (around 8hrs SOT consistently) so I expected to be extremely disappointed with the battery life that I would get out of the Moto X. Much to my suprise this Moto X actually gets decent battery life. Honestly, in comparison to any other device other than the N3 it gets downright awesome battery life. I can't complain at all about my daily usage stats. I don't at all feel like my phone is on a leash. I can comfortably just use my device for 8-9:30hrs under heavy use and get 4-5hrs SOT. I'm sure if I adjusted my usage I could get even better battery life but due to my work I have to be on the phone constantly.
I have read some other posts with people saying that the battery life isn't good but I can only assume that they must have some app not functioning properly. Maybe something else is going on due to rooting or even exchange accounts or poor signal strength. I'm not really sure as I can't trouble shoot it myself. I was initially having issues after the Kit Kat update so I performed a few FDR in Recovery and all my issues are fixed. Even better, my battery life is even better now than it was prior to the update.
The other major difference this time around (I've gone into Recovery to FDR my MX twice now) is that I decided to not to use ART and I stuck with Dalvik this go round and it's made a substantial difference regarding battery life. I'll give it a few more days to see how it goes. After I get a good idea of how it performs I'll switch over to ART to see how it performs.
Keep in mind that none of my battery tests are scientific. This is all real world tests and first hand experiences. I just figured this may help someone or even ease a potential Moto X buyers mind a little.
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Moderate use, little use, more moderate use...lasted this long without a charge. Have been trying to drain all the way and charge all the way up almost every time to try and calibrate it correctly.
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Ok thanks, I'll try some of these, and Im usually on Auto Brightness.
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Maybe the setting just use battery saver
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Moderate use, little use, more moderate use...lasted this long without a charge. Have been trying to drain all the way and charge all the way up almost every time to try and calibrate it correctly.
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You should not ever let your battery drain all the way. Lithium Ion batteries can't be calibrated the way Ni-Ca (Nickel Cadmium) batteries used to be able to. In fact draining a lithium ion battery makes your battery health worse and can lower battery life over time if you continually do this. Best to keep it above 20% if possible.
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You should not ever let your battery drain all the way. Lithium Ion batteries can't be calibrated the way Ni-Ca (Nickel Cadmium) batteries used to be able to. In fact draining a lithium ion battery makes your battery health worse and can lower battery life over time if you continually do this. Best to keep it above 20% if possible.
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All this time, I thought you need to drain the battery before charging it again..thanks for the info..
after updating to 4.4 my battery is absolutely terrible. 4.2... id get 4hours screen on time at minimum... holding for 30+ hours total. 4.4.... i'm seeing maybe 2 hours screen on time... holding for les than 20hours total.
wiped... did factory reset... no change. considering going back to 4.2.
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Seeing how a new firmware came out on the Nexus S, I want to see what kind of battery life everyone is getting on Android 4.1.1 Jellybean. And since everyone cares about battery drain one way or the other, we can use this thread to post tips on getting more battery life and/or try to figure out what's causing battery drain.
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Anyway, PLEASE include these when showing your battery usage:
What ROM/kernel/Governor you're using
A combination of the three can determine why/how you're getting the battery life you're getting. Also, post thread link for the ROM/Kernel if you can.
SCREEN ON TIME
Probably the most important thing to know when determining battery life. Since the screen uses the most juice and generally the amount of time we'd be looking at our screen, the screen on time is very important to show. You can get this by going to Battery > Screen
YOUR GENERAL USAGE
How you used your phone is another important determining factor of how your battery was used. If you took pictures or listened to music, that would explain why you got such low battery life. More information the better.
IMAGES
Images help as it gives information which would be probably be too difficult to describe. The Battery section in the Setting section would help as would Battery monitoring apps
A simple template would be the following:
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[B]*IMAGES[/B]
[B]ROM[/B] -
[B]KERNEL[/B] -
[B]GOVERNOR[/B] -
[B]GENERAL USAGE[/B]
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[B]CONCLUSION[/B]
blahblahblah
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ADDITIONAL TIPS
- Show images of CPUSpy. May help see if your CPU is running out of whack or if, for some reason, is running on 1000MHz too much.
- BetterBatteryStats app screenshots. It gives a much better detail on what's waking up your phone, what apps are using it, and so on. You can buy it HERE. It's a very good app to monitor battery usage.
- More images the better. So we know what's going on with your phone.
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- Embed too many images to your post. It'll be too difficult to look at this thread with hundreds of images being embedded at the same time. Plus, people looking on mobile phones would probably struggle opening the page. If you have a lot of images, please just post the link and not an image
Anyway, thanks! Hopefully we can get amazing battery life on Jellybean!
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ROM - Jellbean 4.1.1 OTA from here: http://goo.gl/AXr2d
KERNEL - Default/Stock kernel
GOVERNOR - Default/Stock
GENERAL USAGE
Usage was, in my opinion, light and didn't really do much. Most of the time, I was on 3G only to go on WiFi when in a Starbucks. I turned off my phone when watching The Dark Knight Rises and trying to save the most battery but that didn't really seem to help. I used the camera once in a while but didn't listen to any music.
CONCLUSION
So far, this battery seems kind of... bad. Especially with my usage (which I thought was light), I thought I could get more screen on time than just 2h 14m. I'm a tad disappointed and might go back to ICS just for the better battery life.
ROM: Unofficial CM10 by Lego
Lazy gov. Air kernel test 112.
The 2 hours of screen usage were from playing temple run, xda, and fb.
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That's a good cycle IMO ^. Have you done a factory reset OP? Force of habit has me doing it anytime I do an update to avoid any issues. It also seems like you have a crappy signal at times. I haven't had a chance to actually judge battery life but mine seems to be on track to be about the same as it was as on ICS though.
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That's a good cycle IMO ^. Have you done a factory reset OP? Force of habit has me doing it anytime I do an update to avoid any issues. It also seems like you have a crappy signal at times. I haven't had a chance to actually judge battery life but mine seems to be on track to be about the same as it was as on ICS though.
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It's weird because I'm using the same radio as on ICS and I seem to be getting worse signal on Jellybean? I might reflash a new JB ROM and try that instead.
I have a 2300mAh battery on stock JB i might upload some screenies later but i havent seen the battery life decrease it seems to be the same
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JB battery life better than ICS
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It's weird because I'm using the same radio as on ICS and I seem to be getting worse signal on Jellybean? I might reflash a new JB ROM and try that instead.
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Yeah. I'm gonna probably go back my KF1 radio once I update my ROM tonight.
IMO I always do a preliminary test the battery when the phone switch to airplane mode in a night, if the drain only 1% then the ROM is quite good.
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Heh. I wish my phone idled that well. Haha.
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Heh. I wish my phone idled that well. Haha.
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Right? I miss the GB battery life, could leave GPS and 3g on all night, not touch it, and lose 2% in 10 hours. With ICS I was grateful if I could get it down to 1.5%-2% in an hour. And Google Now is too awesome to turn stuff off for, so JB is even worse
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My battery life is absolutely horrible. I think my battery is bad though. I've had it since I got the phone. When the nexus came out.
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Its one of those pay to play situations. My job has places for me to safely charge my phone so the battery isn't too big a deal for me. Best bet is to carry a spare charger. It is after all a pocket computer. Sucks, but until battery tech catches up, there isn't much us or many other smartphone users can do.
I think the background sync drains battery when idle. With sync on during idle, the batt drops ~3-6%/hr. If sync is turned off, it becomes ~1%/hr. (using 3G)
Exactly what Google things syncing would cause such a drain? I have this type of usage but all I have is Gmail syncing and I only get a few emails a day. I have obviously noticed increased life disabling Gmail, but how could it be using so much if it is push?
I'm getting, at least, the double than before...stock, unrooted
I don't understand this.....
The only thing using CPU is Android system at 5-15%... why is this happening? The screen was off for at least 8 minutes
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Since it just started up, and I'm guessing it is syncing like crazy. Calendar, instant upload if you have that in G+ or drop box chrome, contacts, drive, Gmail... Etc. Location is happening (maps, and latitude), checking for updates, weather. Check again in an hour and see if it has settled.
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I havent noticed a problem with my battery. It's actually been pretty much the same. I go almost the entire day not charging it on normal use (almost 12 hrs). Heavy use with me is constantly playing games, I get maybe 3-5 hrs depending on screen brightness. It's pretty much the same as ICS for me
I takes about 10 hours, the lesson download much battery? when I go to sleep I lose almost 15% of battery. Any solution?: (
Battery life is terrible.
I refuse to do what my friend does:
Turn vibrate off
Turn screen brightness to lowest
Phone is always connected to Edge - unless he's using the Internet - then he switches back to Edge
Syncs his email every 15 minutes (pull not push!!!)
Always 'freeing ram' and exiting apps
His life sucks.
I am the opposite. Full brightness, 4g , push mail for my 4 emails, exchange server (email and calendar) for work and so on.
I manage this by always having a spare battery that I charge with my battery charger dock lol.
Will be doing the same thing once I can get one for my S4
I know, so far it's been below expectations for me too - I ordered a portable energy bank from Amazon this morning, and I guess I'll just carry it around with me from now on.. What a shame - the phone is extremely powerful too..
Install gsam battery monitor and let it monitor your phone and see what is causing wake locks. Also let the battery go through 3-4 battery cycles before you start comparing battery life.
That'd weird. Isn't the 9500 or the 9505?
My battery exceeds my expectations by quite a lot. Best battery I've had on a smartphone so far, and I've had a few.
Where my 920 died, this one still has 50-70% remaning.
Thats with push mail, air view, air gestures, wifi, mobile data, auto brightness, screen rotation, sync, gps and multiwindow on constantly.
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Anyone tried this app yet?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app
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That'd weird. Isn't the 9500 or the 9505?
My battery exceeds my expectations by quite a lot. Best battery I've had on a smartphone so far, and I've had a few.
Where my 920 died, this one still has 50-70% remaning.
Thats with push mail, air view, air gestures, wifi, mobile data, auto brightness, screen rotation, sync, gps and multiwindow on constantly.
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Same here, battery life is phenomenal. I really dont see how folks are having bad battery life
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Slai said:
That'd weird. Isn't the 9500 or the 9505?
My battery exceeds my expectations by quite a lot. Best battery I've had on a smartphone so far, and I've had a few.
Where my 920 died, this one still has 50-70% remaning.
Thats with push mail, air view, air gestures, wifi, mobile data, auto brightness, screen rotation, sync, gps and multiwindow on constantly.
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Same Best smartphone battery life I've ever had and I too had quite a lot smartphones from HTC, Samsung, Motorola and LG. Those lasted only half as long with the same usage pattern.
barondebxl said:
Same here, battery life is phenomenal. I really dont see how folks are having bad battery life
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chalid said:
Same Best smartphone battery life I've ever had and I too had quite a lot smartphones from HTC, Samsung, Motorola and LG. Those lasted only half as long with the same usage pattern.
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Seriously? how much is the battery life? can post some pics?
I am also curous how many hours does it take for the battery to reach 15% and how much screen on time do you get. Please post a few screenshots!
After a day i have like 30% left. Screen on time is about 2h.
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battery life is not a issue here I don't think I can get to 15% easily most day I do not but I will try to get some pics posted after an all day use no promises I manage to be busy a lot lol.
I am constantly using it.
Whatsapp
Instagram
Facebook
Push mail for 4 gmail (only one is really active)
Synced exchange server at work (calendar only)
In 10 mins of use, it'll go down 2mins
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Anyone tried this app yet?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app
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I'm trying it right now. It takes a bit more than two days for the app to learn certain usage patterns. I still have to wait 8 hours until the actual battery savings start. Will report as soon as I have it working.
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I'm trying it right now. It takes a bit more than two days for the app to learn certain usage patterns. I still have to wait 8 hours until the actual battery savings start. Will report as soon as I have it working.
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Let us know as soon as you can. Mine is still one day away of starting the battery saving.
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monkteo said:
Seriously? how much is the battery life? can post some pics?
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I get similar battery life as well. Sometimes 4 ton6 hours screen times
16 hour days
I found my battery life improved when I got rid of a poor quality 32gig media card and used another spare old16gig one.
I also dumped corrupted mp3 files and videos and got new ones.
I think poor sd card quality and bad mp3 files are partially responsible for lower battery life.
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just got mine
first charge cycle
4 hours on screen
total 8 hours
15% left
not very good but i think it will get better
9505
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Let us know as soon as you can. Mine is still one day away of starting the battery saving.
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So far with battery saving on it seems that nothing changed... Will test it further with daily use. But battery life here, even before using the app was not bad by any means.
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Gillion said:
I get similar battery life as well. Sometimes 4 ton6 hours screen times
16 hour days
I found my battery life improved when I got rid of a poor quality 32gig media card and used another spare old16gig one.
I also dumped corrupted mp3 files and videos and got new ones.
I think poor sd card quality and bad mp3 files are partially responsible for lower battery life.
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Yep. I'm really impressed with this phone s battery life, not too far from the note 2 battery life but not quite there.
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So I was posting some info in another thread but I figured I would make my own thread for it. It seems like the power consumption at idle might be the cause for the "not as good as expected" battery life. For example my G3 will sit off the charger for 4 hours without being used and still be at 100%, the Turbo loses 6% in that time. The G3 has a 3000mAH Battery and I could easily get 24h of off the charger time on the G3. My question is what is killing the battery on the Turbo??? Its kinda hard to look over the battery stats when there is no root. Anyone have any input?
I think it's because of the wifi. I too have experienced crazy idle drain compared to my G2 and it's really making me regret getting this phone. It seems like they just slapped the kitkat ROM together and didn't really care to test it very well because Lollipop is coming out so soon.
It's definitely draining at idle more than usual or should be, I agree. I don't think it is WiFi related though, or at least not enough to be the main problem. I could be wrong of course. I have also not experience any WiFi or Bluetooth issues whatsoever and I use a Moto 360 all day, every day.
I am currently on my 4th charge cycle since acquiring the 64GB BN model. It's been powered on for 7h 32m and I'm sitting at 78% with 1hr 18m SoT. That's with heavy usage and taking quite a bit of pictures & video during this mornings product demo presentations at work.
Hardly anything for me personally to complain about. I'm sure they will optimize it. I'm almost certain than Android L 5.0 will make this phone a true beast.
Time will tell.
are you leaving gps or high accuracy location settings on?
I have the same issue as the OP. My G3 lost very little battery life when idling. I've attempted shutting down email accounts, turning off location and selectively removing apps in hopes of determining the cause of the drain...without success. This could be a deal breaker if we don't get some type of root exploit soon.
Well this sucks. I was going to get the Turbo but now I'm going to wait and see what happens with this drain issue. Maybe 5.0 will fix it.
I have been using the same settings that I did on my G3, Auto brightness, Location OFF and Auto Sync. Glad I'm not the only one noticing it too, I think its all in the build of Kit Kat they put on this phone, hopefully L comes out soon.
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So I was posting some info in another thread but I figured I would make my own thread for it. It seems like the power consumption at idle might be the cause for the "not as good as expected" battery life. For example my G3 will sit off the charger for 4 hours without being used and still be at 100%, the Turbo loses 6% in that time. The G3 has a 3000mAH Battery and I could easily get 24h of off the charger time on the G3. My question is what is killing the battery on the Turbo??? Its kinda hard to look over the battery stats when there is no root. Anyone have any input?
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How about you start by posting screenshots of your battery stats from System...Battery
I don't have any issues whatsoever.
Well once I figure out how to do that I will post it, but in the mean time what phone were you coming from? A few people have agreed in this post that the battery life is worse @ idle then the G3 so its not just me.
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Well once I figure out how to do that I will post it, but in the mean time what phone were you coming from? A few people have agreed in this post that the battery life is worse @ idle then the G3 so its not just me.
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Well G3 could be out of box, not trying to argue wanted to understand what your problem was. If you press the graph you'll see more details on what is using batteries (awake vs screen on, cell signal etc) and more in Android System if you go into that screen.
Overall what your getting .. 1-2% is not a big deal to me and beauty of the massive battery is you don't have to worry about but if really wanted to you could improve by turning off stuff you don't need or even automating it.
FWIW I'm coming from a GS3 with a tiny battery but even that phone lasted 5 days idling with the right setting for my use case (cell radio off / WiFi on). With Turbo just disabled some apps I didn't need and don't even think about it any more. I do have complaints about the Turbo but battery is definitely not one of them.
I'm interested in this as well. I bought my turbo yesterday evening and it had a pretty good charge (>80%) out of the box. I played with it for much of the evening and copied ~8gb of data to the phone via wifi. When I went to bed battery was at 60%, when I woke up it was 46%. I noticed that my third biggest battery use is command center, so I disabled auto-location in that app. I'm hoping to have better results on my first full charge.
Yeah I agree, but its literally the same settings I ran of my G3. I think I'm just gonna return it between the weak wifi and cell signal, and the camera it's just not worth it if the battery life isn't better then my G3
I've been posting in the other battery life thread... but to summarize, I'm going to be doing some thorough testing over the next 24/48 hours (currently ongoing).
I have already noticed significant improvements in my battery life. Has mentioned in the other thread. I'll be making a detailed post on Friday evening with my results.
I may also, from time to time post some of my progress, as I already have an understanding as to one of the issues involved with the so called "idle drain" everyone is referring to, and it is NOT WiFi.
Keep your eyes on that thread here.
Thanks, I'm pretty good with understanding wake locks, I just don't know where to start without root since most the stats in BB require it. I'm intrested to see what you come up with. I'm gonna wait till Saturday anyway to see if I still want to trade this in for the nexus.
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I'm gonna wait till Saturday anyway to see if I still want to trade this in for the nexus.
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Is there a hard date for the nexus?
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Andromjb said:
I've been posting in the other battery life thread... but to summarize, I'm going to be doing some thorough testing over the next 24/48 hours (currently ongoing).
I have already noticed significant improvements in my battery life. Has mentioned in the other thread. I'll be making a detailed post on Friday evening with my results.
I may also, from time to time post some of my progress, as I already have an understanding as to one of the issues involved with the so called "idle drain" everyone is referring to.
Keep your eyes on that thread here.
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Very interested in what you come up with, thanks!
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Thanks, I'm pretty good with understanding wake locks, I just don't know where to start without root since most the stats in BB require it. I'm intrested to see what you come up with. I'm gonna wait till Saturday anyway to see if I still want to trade this in for the nexus.
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Well you are limited with what you can do but I already gave you a start in my post, maybe you missed it. The only insight you will have without root (for tools like Better Battery Stats) is looking into all the info you can get out of Settings..Battery. There you can see wake locks vs screen on time and other stats like cell signal / wifi status etc. Then you can also dive into your biggest usage, for you it looks like it is Android System. They will list system services that are classified here. For example, you'll see the moto features are part of this. If you don't want to dig you can wait for Andromjb's updates
Overall I wouldn't base your decision to return the Turbo based on the battery -- base it on your other problems it sounds like you're having with wifi signal etc. That sounds like reason enough for a return. If you're ok with the larger size of the Nexus 6 then to me it's a no brainer to go with that instead of Droid Turbo since they are almost identical in terms of hardware.
For those that are getting battery drain, did you disable all of the verizon apps? There are some 20+ apps that are constantly running in the background and will drain your battery(even after i did a factory reset, these apps were sending data despite me never having opened them). Disable those, restart, then see if things change over the next cycle. I got 2d9hr31m and 4hr23 min of SOT(minimal usage) and was at 13%; this was on the first charge.
Could this drain be due to some of the sensors used for notifications. Doesn't the turbo have the feature where you stick your hand over it and it shows the notifications? If this is the case, wouldn't those sensors have to stay on?
Yeah I have 27 apps disabled and it really didn't make a difference for me like it has in the past, their must be something killing the battery on this 30m of screen time and I'm at 79% shouldn't be happening.
timjp692 said:
Yeah I have 27 apps disabled and it really didn't make a difference for me like it has in the past, their must be something killing the battery on this 30m of screen time and I'm at 79% shouldn't be happening.
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Thats actually really interesting. I haven't been experiencing anything like that. Perhaps try doing a factory reset then disabling them again. That's the only thing I did differently. Perhaps it's just a bad device? I'm already at 2hrs screen time, heavy downloading(off line apps), and have been on battery for 1d8hr- still at 45%. Is there anything in the battery stats? Wake locks perhaps?
We were missing a dedicated thread for discussing battery life, maybe due to the fact that not many have the phone yet.
I test LG phones and I put them through the same battery test with 3 topics, video playback, surfing and gaming at different screen brightness.
You can see the results here in Swedish, you can easily understand the numbers in the diagrams
Or you can read the whole article Google translated (turned out pretty good grammatically).
So post your battery results and discuss how to make it better (or worse)!
wargreymon89 said:
We were missing a dedicated thread for discussing battery life, maybe due to the fact that not many have the phone yet.
I test LG phones and I put them through the same battery test with 3 topics, video playback, surfing and gaming at different screen brightness.
You can see the results here in Swedish, you can easily understand the numbers in the diagrams
Or you can read the whole article Google translated (turned out pretty good grammatically).
So how do you feel about the battery life?
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this is somewhat disappointing.
thanks for the Post though OP, and i agree. i expect for the g4 threads on XDA to boom after its released on all major carriers. Ive been lurking here since day 1 (;
do you know about the stand by time? how long the battery can last when its not in use
Phurkus said:
this is somewhat disappointing.
thanks for the Post though OP, and i agree. i expect for the g4 threads on XDA to boom after its released on all major carriers. Ive been lurking here since day 1 (;
do you know about the stand by time? how long the battery can last when its not in use
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Ye, the battery time is much better than G3 if you do light usage, but as soon as you fire up some little heavier so the SoC has to work it plummets quickly.
The standby time is pretty good, several hours per %. But I did have some problem with Google Now wakelocks I think (hard to check without root), became better after uninstalling updates for Google Search and Google Play Services and then reinstalling.
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Ye, the battery time is much better than G3 if you do light usage, but as soon as you fire up some little heavier so the SoC has to work it plummets quickly.
The standby time is pretty good, several hours per %. But I did have some problem with Google Now wakelocks I think (hard to check without root), became better after uninstalling updates for Google Search and Google Play Services and then reinstalling.
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Damn i was really hopeing for a great battery on the g4 after the announcement of the 808 chip. im coming from a ****ty droid razr m that dies quickly after a day, with terrible stand-by time. But i guess as long as the g4 battery is better than my phone, its still an upgrade
So after a a full day of my normal usage yesterday, web browsing, simpler games, some minutes of phone call. I did test that chess program in the other thread that ate like 10+% of my battery pretty quickly.
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I ended the day at like 19%, then I forgot to charge it over the night, and it was down to 11% when I woke 12 hours later (Yay weekend). Then I used it down to 3% (dont mind the 30% after charging a while). I do have something under Android-System that is using my GPS and is draining battery sometimes, not much, but still irritating. I tried turning off lots of stuff, but cant seem to find the culprit.
Where did you get a G4 in Sweden?
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Where did you get a G4 in Sweden?
Sent from a mobile gadget.
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Im a LG Ambassador, so we get phones to test and spread our experience about them
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Im a LG Ambassador, so we get phones to test and spread our experience about them
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so you did you use lg g3 in the past?(or in other words what phone did you use before the g4)
and how is the battery life on the g4 compared to the phone you used to use =P
thank you...
xzfzx said:
so you did you use lg g3 in the past?(or in other words what phone did you use before the g4)
and how is the battery life on the g4 compared to the phone you used to use =P
thank you...
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also intersted in hearing this. hope you can reply
xzfzx said:
so you did you use lg g3 in the past?(or in other words what phone did you use before the g4)
and how is the battery life on the g4 compared to the phone you used to use =P
thank you...
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I used G3 before G4 and G2 before that. G4 is better than G3 at light work like chatting, surfing, watching video, but gaming and when it stresses the SoC it becomes worse, even worse than G3. Some days ago I had 3:45 SoT at 3% when I had used the chess app in the other thread for a while. The day after I got 5 hours and 20% left because I had done mostly chatting and browsing.
The screen is almost as power efficient as G2 (which is awesome considering QHD and larger). But SD808 eats power like a fat kid eats candy.
wargreymon89 said:
I used G3 before G4 and G2 before that. G4 is better than G3 at light work like chatting, surfing, watching video, but gaming and when it stresses the SoC it becomes worse, even worse than G3. Some days ago I had 3:45 SoT at 3% when I had used the chess app in the other thread for a while. The day after I got 5 hours and 20% left because I had done mostly chatting and browsing.
The screen is almost as power efficient as G2 (which is awesome considering QHD and larger). But SD808 eats power like a fat kid eats candy.
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worse than g3 is not somtihng that i want to hear,i hope that software update can fix this....
and because you answered, and got to play with both devices what do you think about the display brightness and outdoor use?(compared to the G3)
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worse than g3 is not somtihng that i want to hear,i hope that software update can fix this....
and because you answered, and got to play with both devices what do you think about the display brightness and outdoor use?(compared to the G3)
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At 0% its much darker than G3, at 100% its pretty much same as G3, not sure where that extra 25% brightness went really. I havent had any problem seeing the screen in the sun, not that I bring it up in direct sunlight much, also since I havent gotten it to overheat and lower brightness automatically, it should be a much better experience in the sun.
Zerolemon for me then
Thank you for this thread. This is all I needed to hear.
I have suffered through sub-2-hour screen on time on the G3 for a year now. I have done everything, turning off location, even getting the phone warranty replaced once, getting the Lollipop update, factory resetting yesterday. I have uninstalled apps, left them installed and Greenified. I have done some pretty in-depth testing with Gsam, Better Battery Stats, and the stock battery usage chart. I'm rooting my G3 right now just because I am scientifically curious what in the bleeding ****ing hell is eating my battery on this phone that I wiped yesterday. Yesterday.
I'm either going to Edge up to a Droid Turbo, like my wife has, since my Droid Maxx never did this, get an S6 Edge, or even just get a dumbphone I can make calls on and charge every 3 days, then get literally a Gpad or Nexus 8 or some smallish Android tablet with LTE.
After preordering the flagship phone last year, with more RAM and better specs than everything on the market, then suffering with charge-twice-a-day battery life for a year, I think smartphones have literally failed me, and I think I'm done.
Better battery then i had on my s6
D_Magic said:
Better battery then i had on my s6
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Seems good. What usage was that?
didi_ghost said:
Seems good. What usage was that?
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Browsing internet, watching youtube, news apps, xda app, taking some picrures, playing simple games, whatsapp and e-mail
Around 60 to 70% brightness and wifi and 4g active and used both indoors and outdoors and when outdoors wifi still active and brightness at 100%
This i got another day
Seems impressive and going against what is being told around there.
D_Magic said:
Better battery then i had on my s6
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thats good news, do you happen to have greenify?
xzfzx said:
thats good news, do you happen to have greenify?
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No greenify, never used it and no power save modes
Just normal use
Note 4 i get 7 to 8 hours sot
Nexus 6 4 to 5 hours
Galaxy s6 4 to 5 hours
G4 5 to 6 hours
All same use nu greenify or power save modes
So I've had the Z3+ for a few weeks now and I have not been particularly impressed with the battery life. I was just curious to know what kind of longevity others are getting. I seem to average 4 hours sot with medium to light use. I am on .24 firmware and had two OTA updates as soon as I turned on the phone after opening the box. What are you guys seeing in terms of battery?
Edit: Should mention this is with intermittent wifi and data turned off. No apparent wakelocks either
. 4+ SOT seems to be around where I'm getting... some music or YouTube on work commute about 2+ hrs.. No games.. Mostly browsing...
Today so far..
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. 4+ SOT seems to be around where I'm getting... some music or YouTube on work commute about 2+ hrs.. No games.. Mostly browsing...
Today so far..
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Good to know, thanks. My gsam stat screen looks nearly identical to that. Perhaps the 5.1.1 update will bring some improvments
Hey,
I noticed this as well, on .24. However, my phone almost cooked itself, so was a little more worried about that. After doing a 'phone repair' in PC Companion (Bridge for Mac), the temperature dropper a LOT, and as an added bonus, the battery life seems a lot more stable. Recommend doing a clean install of .24, not OTAs.
Returned my z3+ because of the battery life. For a phone that large and heavy the battery sucks. My new z3c has almost double the screen time.
Yeah i get around 4hrs of screen time normal usage, music/games/web browsing/wifi etc.
Z3+ Dual sim
I'm jut curious if all of you guys having bad battery life results had any power save features turned on or if you were using any apps to turn off cpu cores.
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cerobles1 said:
I'm jut curious if all of you guys having bad battery life results had any power save features turned on or if you were using any apps to turn off cpu cores.
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I'm not using any power saving features or turning off cores. I didn't notice much of a difference between stamina mode or normal TBH. I take it you've been observing better results/ on-screen times?
cerobles1 said:
I'm jut curious if all of you guys having bad battery life results had any power save features turned on or if you were using any apps to turn off cpu cores.
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Holy **** this.
I was using no pwoersaving features and would end the day at 10-20% with moderate use.
Now with stamina mode turned on(whitelisting only commonly used apps), I end the day at 60% with moderate use.
Stamina mode is the greatest thing I have ever come across.
You guys that are getting really bad battery life should definitely look into using stamina mode more aggressively. I've white listed the apps I commonly use (which really aren't that many) while keeping brightness at a reasonable amount and I've gotten great battery life. 5 hours of SoT while on constant WiFi over here. I do use greenify whenever I remember, Nova launcher with app swipe gestures is awesome.
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My battery was emptied in about 10hours, moderate use (Stamina mode, not ultra). On top of that, it went into a boot loop when there was about 10% left.. And there was nothing that could stop the loop except for plugging in the charger and wait about 30 minutes for it to stop the loop or wait and let the battery get emptied. So today I did a factory reset and a repair through Sony PC companion - and the top third of the screen stopped reacting to touch completely. Just sent it in for service/repairs.. Hope to get some good news soon. I'm really starting to regret ever buying this phone...
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My battery was emptied in about 10hours, moderate use (Stamina mode, not ultra). On top of that, it went into a boot loop when there was about 10% left..
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There is a thread about the boot loop. I think they also found a fix for it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/general/sony-xperia-z3-e6533-boot-loop-battery-9-t3160534
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I'm not using any power saving features or turning off cores. I didn't notice much of a difference between stamina mode or normal TBH. I take it you've been observing better results/ on-screen times?
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EnderIII said:
Holy **** this.
I was using no pwoersaving features and would end the day at 10-20% with moderate use.
Now with stamina mode turned on(whitelisting only commonly used apps), I end the day at 60% with moderate use.
Stamina mode is the greatest thing I have ever come across.
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Ok, so it seems that using power saving mode or stamina mode or whatever it's called does make a difference on battery life. On my Galaxy s5, although it has a Snapdragon 801, it is still a quadcore SoC, and turning off two of the cores makes a huge difference on the battery life.
So my point is if you would to turn off the A57 cores completely off I wonder how much battery would increase. Or even if you do not mind a bit of lag, 'cause I don't, maybe even go a step further and turn off one or two of the A53. I found an app on the playstore that allows me to turn off cores on my 801. I would like for someone to give it a shot and see if it makes a difference. It did not work on the Galaxy S6 and that's why I am still looking for a new phone.
Having a non-removable battery is definitely a deal breaker for me. But if the phone has the ability to go at least a good 16 hours without a charge, then that wouldn't be such a bad deal. That means if you unplug at 0500 you could still go all the way to 2100 before you would be forced to plug in. Just throwing my two cents out there for you guys. I wished someone would comeout with a phone as good as the Z3+ with the features of the Samsung S5. 5 to 5.3 in screen, water resistant, removable battery, micro sd card and a screen that's comparable to a Super AMOLED. LG G4's screen is very good but with a locked bootloader it kills the ohone for me.
Alright, sorry for the rant. Let me know if someone wants to try out the app I was talking about. And by the way, im not the developer of the app. Im just an user.
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I found an app on the playstore that allows me to turn off cores on my 801.
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What was this app called? Does it require root?
cerobles1 said:
Having a non-removable battery is definitely a deal breaker for me. But if the phone has the ability to go at least a good 16 hours without a charge, then that wouldn't be such a bad deal.
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With Stamina mode it breaks 16 easy.
I am currently at 41% battery, and my phone has been on for 24 hours. This is with light-moderate use.
I have yet to drain this phone to 0 yet, so I will see how long it can go.
I have the low battery stuff kicking in at 20%, so it should go even longer.
It didn't seem like extended stamina mode that lowered performance made any difference for me.
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EnderIII said:
What was this app called? Does it require root?
With Stamina mode it breaks 16 easy.
I am currently at 41% battery, and my phone has been on for 24 hours. This is with light-moderate use.
I have yet to drain this phone to 0 yet, so I will see how long it can go.
I have the low battery stuff kicking in at 20%, so it should go even longer.
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I forgot to drain to 0 on first use. Is that still recommended/required with the new devices? Is it too late to do it after a few charges? (one week old here)
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ciprianmp said:
I forgot to drain to 0 on first use. Is that still recommended/required with the new devices? Is it too late to do it after a few charges? (one week old here)
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I don't think it matters, that's a highly debated subject though so you'll hear both ways.
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Is better than Z3 or not?.
tomfuegue said:
Is better than Z3 or not?.
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Cannot be! Battery capacity is smaller and processor stronger...
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