Seeing how a new firmware came out on the Nexus S, I want to see what kind of battery life everyone is getting on Android 4.1.1 Jellybean. And since everyone cares about battery drain one way or the other, we can use this thread to post tips on getting more battery life and/or try to figure out what's causing battery drain.
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Anyway, PLEASE include these when showing your battery usage:
What ROM/kernel/Governor you're using
A combination of the three can determine why/how you're getting the battery life you're getting. Also, post thread link for the ROM/Kernel if you can.
SCREEN ON TIME
Probably the most important thing to know when determining battery life. Since the screen uses the most juice and generally the amount of time we'd be looking at our screen, the screen on time is very important to show. You can get this by going to Battery > Screen
YOUR GENERAL USAGE
How you used your phone is another important determining factor of how your battery was used. If you took pictures or listened to music, that would explain why you got such low battery life. More information the better.
IMAGES
Images help as it gives information which would be probably be too difficult to describe. The Battery section in the Setting section would help as would Battery monitoring apps
A simple template would be the following:
Code:
[B]*IMAGES[/B]
[B]ROM[/B] -
[B]KERNEL[/B] -
[B]GOVERNOR[/B] -
[B]GENERAL USAGE[/B]
blahblahblah
[B]CONCLUSION[/B]
blahblahblah
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ADDITIONAL TIPS
- Show images of CPUSpy. May help see if your CPU is running out of whack or if, for some reason, is running on 1000MHz too much.
- BetterBatteryStats app screenshots. It gives a much better detail on what's waking up your phone, what apps are using it, and so on. You can buy it HERE. It's a very good app to monitor battery usage.
- More images the better. So we know what's going on with your phone.
PLEASE DONT
- Embed too many images to your post. It'll be too difficult to look at this thread with hundreds of images being embedded at the same time. Plus, people looking on mobile phones would probably struggle opening the page. If you have a lot of images, please just post the link and not an image
Anyway, thanks! Hopefully we can get amazing battery life on Jellybean!
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ROM - Jellbean 4.1.1 OTA from here: http://goo.gl/AXr2d
KERNEL - Default/Stock kernel
GOVERNOR - Default/Stock
GENERAL USAGE
Usage was, in my opinion, light and didn't really do much. Most of the time, I was on 3G only to go on WiFi when in a Starbucks. I turned off my phone when watching The Dark Knight Rises and trying to save the most battery but that didn't really seem to help. I used the camera once in a while but didn't listen to any music.
CONCLUSION
So far, this battery seems kind of... bad. Especially with my usage (which I thought was light), I thought I could get more screen on time than just 2h 14m. I'm a tad disappointed and might go back to ICS just for the better battery life.
ROM: Unofficial CM10 by Lego
Lazy gov. Air kernel test 112.
The 2 hours of screen usage were from playing temple run, xda, and fb.
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That's a good cycle IMO ^. Have you done a factory reset OP? Force of habit has me doing it anytime I do an update to avoid any issues. It also seems like you have a crappy signal at times. I haven't had a chance to actually judge battery life but mine seems to be on track to be about the same as it was as on ICS though.
chronophase1 said:
That's a good cycle IMO ^. Have you done a factory reset OP? Force of habit has me doing it anytime I do an update to avoid any issues. It also seems like you have a crappy signal at times. I haven't had a chance to actually judge battery life but mine seems to be on track to be about the same as it was as on ICS though.
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It's weird because I'm using the same radio as on ICS and I seem to be getting worse signal on Jellybean? I might reflash a new JB ROM and try that instead.
I have a 2300mAh battery on stock JB i might upload some screenies later but i havent seen the battery life decrease it seems to be the same
Kind Regards
AlanS181824
JB battery life better than ICS
jokkir said:
It's weird because I'm using the same radio as on ICS and I seem to be getting worse signal on Jellybean? I might reflash a new JB ROM and try that instead.
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Yeah. I'm gonna probably go back my KF1 radio once I update my ROM tonight.
IMO I always do a preliminary test the battery when the phone switch to airplane mode in a night, if the drain only 1% then the ROM is quite good.
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Heh. I wish my phone idled that well. Haha.
chronophase1 said:
Heh. I wish my phone idled that well. Haha.
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Right? I miss the GB battery life, could leave GPS and 3g on all night, not touch it, and lose 2% in 10 hours. With ICS I was grateful if I could get it down to 1.5%-2% in an hour. And Google Now is too awesome to turn stuff off for, so JB is even worse
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My battery life is absolutely horrible. I think my battery is bad though. I've had it since I got the phone. When the nexus came out.
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Its one of those pay to play situations. My job has places for me to safely charge my phone so the battery isn't too big a deal for me. Best bet is to carry a spare charger. It is after all a pocket computer. Sucks, but until battery tech catches up, there isn't much us or many other smartphone users can do.
I think the background sync drains battery when idle. With sync on during idle, the batt drops ~3-6%/hr. If sync is turned off, it becomes ~1%/hr. (using 3G)
Exactly what Google things syncing would cause such a drain? I have this type of usage but all I have is Gmail syncing and I only get a few emails a day. I have obviously noticed increased life disabling Gmail, but how could it be using so much if it is push?
I'm getting, at least, the double than before...stock, unrooted
I don't understand this.....
The only thing using CPU is Android system at 5-15%... why is this happening? The screen was off for at least 8 minutes
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Since it just started up, and I'm guessing it is syncing like crazy. Calendar, instant upload if you have that in G+ or drop box chrome, contacts, drive, Gmail... Etc. Location is happening (maps, and latitude), checking for updates, weather. Check again in an hour and see if it has settled.
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I havent noticed a problem with my battery. It's actually been pretty much the same. I go almost the entire day not charging it on normal use (almost 12 hrs). Heavy use with me is constantly playing games, I get maybe 3-5 hrs depending on screen brightness. It's pretty much the same as ICS for me
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Hi guys,
After buying s2 i was worried about battery life. Because first two days it was like 12-14 hours of medium use.
But now its marathon :d
See some shots..
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Last image is usage of previous charge.
I was a die hard fan of lg phones from optimus one to optimus black but i am happy now that i switched to s2
Cheers guys and please show your records as well.
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I thought i was getting good battery life with medium to heavy usage (27 hours) on Cognition 1.15 but that is exceptional, can you tell me your set up as to how you achieved this amount of battery life.
cheers
Tegrak's kernel and underclocked.
Frozen samsung apps. and brightness mostly 0% as i am fairly fine with the lowest brightness it doesn't hurt my eyes.
also one more thing, i am using overclocking upto 1300 as well and you will be surprised most people will tell you to go underclock to save battery but i didn't and i am just happy with 1.3 Ghz blazing speed.
Here's a shot of running.
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Also i used camera for recording movie for about 50 minutes in 720P and 50+ photographs as well which is not mentioned in the above post. I will post once again when my battery will reach 1% because when its below 10% it drops really slow and allows me to use it more unlike when its full.
Sit it on a desk and stare at it. The average screen on time is 5 hrs. You can use that in a day or spread it across 3 days.
jonny68 said:
I thought i was getting good battery life with medium to heavy usage (27 hours) on Cognition 1.15 but that is exceptional, can you tell me your set up as to how you achieved this amount of battery life.
cheers
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One more thing, i only recharge battery when its below 5% or mostly under 2% to full turning it off. And ofcourse this only first week of using the phone, hope it will increase a bit more by next week.
[Note: I personally believe plugging in and out of charger makes the phone battery drop faster]
chaplu said:
Tegrak's kernel and underclocked.
Frozen samsung apps. and brightness mostly 0% as i am fairly fine with the lowest brightness it doesn't hurt my eyes.
also one more thing, i am using overclocking upto 1300 as well and you will be surprised most people will tell you to go underclock to save battery but i didn't and i am just happy with 1.3 Ghz blazing speed.
Here's a shot of running.
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Also i used camera for recording movie for about 50 minutes in 720P and 50+ photographs as well which is not mentioned in the above post. I will post once again when my battery will reach 1% because when its below 10% it drops really slow and allows me to use it more unlike when its full.
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You should blur out your IMEI number from the screenshot buddy.
What ROM are you using?
I usually have brightness set to auto, same as you all Samsung apps frozen, am not using Tegrak i don't believe it's compatible with Cognition ROM, are you using Juice Defender Ultimate or other apps,etc,etc, im on setcpu im 200 min - 800 max - on demand and screen off profile - 200 min - 500 max - consertivave - priority 100.
Seriously impressive all the same..
jonny68 said:
What ROM are you using?
I usually have brightness set to auto, same as you all Samsung apps frozen, am not using Tegrak i don't believe it's compatible with Cognition ROM, are you using Juice Defender Ultimate or other apps,etc,etc, im on setcpu im 200 min - 800 max - on demand and screen off profile - 200 min - 500 max - consertivave - priority 100.
Seriously impressive all the same..
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I am using stock KF3 rooted nothing else i am using except described in previous post.
Cheers.
That is the best battery life ive ever seen on XDA for any type of smartphone never mind one like the GS2, did you use the Internet/Wi-Fi/GPS/Bluetooth,etc, much,do you have any widgets on your screen, push e-mail,etc, im amazed your getting that amount of time without using Juice defender or some other similar app.
jonny68 said:
That is the best battery life ive ever seen on XDA for any type of smartphone never mind one like the GS2, did you use the Internet/Wi-Fi/GPS/Bluetooth,etc, much,do you have any widgets on your screen, push e-mail,etc, im amazed your getting that amount of time without using Juice defender or some other similar app.
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Bluetooth yes for 10 minutes transfering some files.
Gps yes for around 1 hour (you can see that in pics atleast it shows usage for ndrive there)
wifi yes around 1 hour but its always on mostly (mostly used for market to download and test applications, gmailing and also some browsing)
3g or edge no i didn't use it.
Games yes i played like drag race etc.
widget yes, battery widget and the running app widget and live wallpapers.
Mine, I think there's a little (big) problem :
Considering the first 8 hours were during the night so I didn't touch my phone :
Running on VR2.1, many things push or so (like 15/30mins refresh) [mails, fb, twitter, news, weather, etc], and good modem (KG2) and CF-Root 4.1.
Any idea/advice please ?
A better rom maybe ?
Thanks in avance
Intratech said:
You should blur out your IMEI number from the screenshot buddy.
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For those of us n00bs here, what or where is the IMEI number?
Also just to clarify, this is a unique number for each phone, yes?
intruda119 said:
Sit it on a desk and stare at it. The average screen on time is 5 hrs. You can use that in a day or spread it across 3 days.
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Nuff said.
@OP- What's that Widget is (temp, voltage of battery)? Forgot the name!
Regards.
intruda119 said:
Sit it on a desk and stare at it. The average screen on time is 5 hrs. You can use that in a day or spread it across 3 days.
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+1
The real secret to great battery life is to disable all the data connections and not use the phone. Since most people are pretty active with their phones, threads about stand-by time are pretty meaningless. Actually, with over a dozen battery life threads already running, you could say new battery life thread are pretty meaningless too.
diby_2000 said:
For those of us n00bs here, what or where is the IMEI number?
Also just to clarify, this is a unique number for each phone, yes?
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Individual to eachphone usedto identify phone on network.Blocked block after theft .Illegal to change. jje
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Ok thats along the lines of what I thought it was. Thanks.
Didn't know it was possible to change it, illigal. Huh
But can some one tell me where it is shown so I can block it if I ever post some screen shots?
I'm on stock K2-CL. I used 3G just a bit today while in a restaurant, wifi is always on, but I normally sit in front of the computer most of the day, or use my tablet at home, so I do very light surfing - mostly while on the can.
I've not installed "app freezers", nor underclocked the processor, nor rooted or removed anything that isn't stock android. Not stopping tasks in the task manager. In the screenshot below, I did play around a bit on Google Earth for 15 min or so, I'm surprised not to see the android market in there because I feel that's what I used most. I use a live wallpaper that's fairly bright (moving clouds).
Brightness on auto - automatic gmail notifications, contact syncs etc.
I'm going to go on a big trip next week, where electricity will sometimes be optional. I do have that Samsung battery case thinggie coming the mail next week - and already have an external battery as well for emergencies, because this phone will die in an hour or two using the gps, or playing games, or doing serious web surfing - or a combination of those things. It runs very hot too if you use it constantly several hours (drove 500 kilometers last week, the phone was very very hot - seemed unhealthy).
If you hold the power button along with the home button it takes a screen shot.
Thought id say to make it easier for ya in future!
thanks a millions
Don't mind the n00b Here.
Found the IMEI number in the status tab of about phone.
Goto remember to keep this out of public photos.
It seems as though battery life is one of the most common topics among us vibrant owners. We are always looking to increase battery life, whether it be with a new rom, new kernels, or apps from the market. I wanted to start this thread for everyone to share their experiences, tricks of the trade, etc on getting the best battery life.
Post pictures, rom info, kernel info, app info, modem info, battery info etc! No pic, no proof!!!
This is the best I have been able to get with my phone with:
Bionix 1.3.1 - Stock kernel - KB1 modem - TW launcher - auto brightness off, set about 2 clicks from the left - battery calibration app used at 100% - Stock battery. Light / Light moderate usage, phone calls, texts, web searches. GPS on.
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Well, this is great battery life you got there For me 24h is the most I can squeeze from my Vibrant with Project V/Bullet 1.42 kernel, auto brightness off, moderate usage. 16h with heavy usage... It's fully charged now so I don't have pics to show it
i used around 5% with in an hour with somewhat heavy usage this is cm7 nightly 71 bali with uv
srdjav - have you tried bali uv? I heard it works really well, especially with bi-winning, but I have heard great things about it on all different types of roms
gamikzone - impressive for cm7, I have read horror stories that the battery life on it wasn't all that great...but I guess with the kernel script and bali, it's way better!
@corpsetomb
Yes, I did tried Bali... But honestly, didn't see much difference in battery life. I have tried 4 different kernel on Project V and battery life was always 16-24h, depends of the usage. With extremely heavy usage 16h... So i decided to stay with Bullet 1.42.
But I didn't try Bi-Winning ROM yet... Maybe I will give it a try
But I had very bad experience with Super_DragonMODz 1.5 kernel... For a few hours everything was ok. But in one moment I picked up a phone after doing nothing for a half an hour and it was HOT! And I could smell "burning" inside Luckily when I took battery out and let the phone cool down, it was ok
Can we see pictures not words :/
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gamikzone said:
i used around 5% with in an hour with somewhat heavy usage this is cm7 nightly 71 bali with uv
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i am on Trigger redux build 17 and bali 1.1.1, so almost same setup as you, so would like to try your UV settings, could you post them here?
Battery
Modem:KB5
Kernel:Glitch
Rom:CM7 70#
Battery:1500Mah Damaged once it hits 30% It starts to drain 2% i have 2 batterys an the second gets double to almost triple the one i am using
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Can we see pictures not words :/
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haha what is this, a courtroom?
truly, none of this matters. one big factor in battery life is application use. in order to pinpoint someones battery usage, one would have to list, in detail, their application usage. which/how many apps poll for background data/how often? is the person using an autokiller/ram optimizer? which/how many apps stay open in the background, even when killed?
The bottom line is, battery life is ultimately determined by the user. there are only so many differences, in terms of battery, between these roms and kernels. none of them will give you a SIGNIFICANT difference. this is not the fault of the devs, they are not magicians.
This is why people do not get nice responses in rom/kernel threads when they ask "how is the battery life?". Then some clown who is a very light user will say "its great! i get 20hrs per cycle!!" and then you flash it expecting ground-shaking results...only you forgot that you have 317 apps on your phone (20 of which are constantly poll/checking for background data), and you use your phone/data like a whore who youll never see again. and unfortunately, there are horrible noobs out in there who, after doing this, will actually go back into the thread and say something like "DO NOT FLASH, MY BATTERY DOESNT EVEN LAST 8 HRS!!!!"
Theres only one true way to REALLY compare battery between ROMs/kernels (and it still isnt 100%trustworthy): download a ROM, try it out for a few days at moderate usage. Then flash the one you want to compare it to. Make sure you have the SAME exact setup as the ROM before (apps, brightness, GPS on/off, background data, etc.), and try to mimmick your usage with the other one. NOW you can effectively determine, relatively, which ROM may show better battery results for everybody. and then, when someone asks "does this have good battery?" you dont just say yes; you say "yes, i have seen noticeable improvement since coming from _______ rom, i about ___hrs more per full charge "
sorry for the rant
here's my battery life with Project V.
http://s1085.photobucket.com/albums/j421/starchaser03/?action=view¤t=xda.jpg
kazumahits said:
here's my battery life with Project V.
http://s1085.photobucket.com/albums/j421/starchaser03/?action=view¤t=xda.jpg
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Come on man, how did you menage this? Do you have any apps install on your phone?
@TopShelf10
No worries, I welcome your input! I agree that a big factor in battery life is application use. You will see in the OP that I recommended people put in as much detail as possible along with their picture, such as what type of use, kernel, rom, etc. I would also like to hear and see comparisons between roms, that is part of what this thread is all about! To be able to compare different roms and see what helps based on usage.
Thank you for participating and your input!
Note: Do you guys think I should start a list of best battery life in the op?
I know this but anyone can say I got 24hrs show me me proof
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@kazumahits
Would you mind sharing the details on how you get this awesome battery life? Kernel, programs, light/moderate/heavy use etc?
MITurned off background data. At least 4 hours of Youtube and flashed at about 90% so....
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wtf tapatalk that's
display-30%
GPS Status-16
Standby-12
wifi-11
android system-7
gps test-5
idle-5
and other stuff
23h 23m 1s on battery with 19% left
WTH!!!!!! I wish my phone could last that long. But do you use your phone a lot? Like facebook? Music? Videos? Etc???
kazumahits said:
here's my battery life with Project V.
http://s1085.photobucket.com/albums/j421/starchaser03/?action=view¤t=xda.jpg
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Trigger redux w/glitch while actually doing stuff like an hour of tetrisphere.
Suck it.
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You can manipulate the battery use stats pretty easily... at least on CM7. If I plug my phone in to charge for an hour, it doesn't reset my battery usage. Sometimes when I look at it it will say 24 hours+. Which I know is not at all accurate.
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imitebewrong said:
You can manipulate the battery use stats pretty easily... at least on CM7. If I plug my phone in to charge for an hour, it doesn't reset my battery usage. Sometimes when I look at it it will say 24 hours+. Which I know is not at all accurate.
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That happens to me on MIUI makes it hard to keep track of it
Btw my batt
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I know there have already been a million reviews of this device, but in case anybody wants a million and one, here's my 2 cents. If not, carry on.
This is my first Nexus device, coming from SGS2 and before that the original HTC EVO. I'm on T-Mobile USA.
After one week with the Nexus 4 my verdict so far is: good with potential to become great. Here are a few quick thoughts in pro/con format:
PROS:
- Super fast and fluid, I've noticed no lag whatsoever. Haven't played any 3D games yet though
- The N4 is definitely a sexy device and feels great in the hand
- I do like the smoothness of the glass and the curved screen edges.
- Painless unlocking / rooting
- Best phone for the price, by far
- Love having a notification light again, hallelujah
CONS:
- Have to say I am a little disappointed in the screen. It's not terrible but I guess I've been spoiled by the saturated screen of my SGS2. The N4 was just.....underwhelming. Sharpness is fine but the first thing I noticed is how dull the colors seemed compared to my SGS2. I'm sure I'll get used to it but I'm not able to call it an "upgrade".
- Surprised at the bugginess of Jelly Bean, I'd say I get one random reboot per day, maybe two. There are also other random oddities such as the bluetooth toggle not working properly, force closes, etc.
- I've had trouble with connectivity/connection speeds on both WiFi and cellular data, if I can't get them resolved it may end up being a dealbreaker.
- Battery is....meh so far. I've done all the recommended tips of disabling/removing this & that, and I generally make it through my day of low to moderate usage, barely. I have yet to have screen time of more than 2-2.5 hours. If I upped my usage by even just a bit I'd need a top-off during the day.
- The device seems quick to warm up. Even when I'm doing something like light web browsing it's surprising to feel the device warm up in my hands.
- Gotta admit there are a couple of niceties I miss about Touchwiz such as the quick toggles in the notification drop down.
- Given the numerous reports of glass breakage / scratches makes me super careful about handling my headset. Almost paranoid, really. Luckily I have no visible wear so far but it would be nice to not have to worry so much about this. I do like my phones naked though so I'm probably asking for trouble.
- Some of my apps are buggy with 4.2, guess that's the price you pay for being on the cutting edge.
- Ringer / notifications are really, really, really quiet when the phone is laying flat on my desk.
- I'm not a huge fan of the growing amount of "Google Bloatware". One reason I like having a Nexus device is to not have to deal with all the carrier installed apps / services. But I dislike having to disable Google Magazines, Google Plus, location stuff, Google Talk, etc. etc. Maybe if the battery was at least up to the task of supporting all these things I wouldn't mind as much.
Admittedly most of the above "gripes" are minor, but it's surprising because on my old SGS2 I didn't really have any gripes at all. If I can clean up a few of the above items I'll be very, very happy. Overall I think I'll like the N4 better than my SGS2, but it's far from the landslide I thought it would be.
I really don't get this random reboot issue. I can honestly say I haven't had it reboot once and if had it for over a week ...
And for me the battery life is great ...
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Also about the heat ... I'm hearing a lot of talk that the voltages are set very high on stock and lowering them has helped the heat and not caused instability.. So may be worth checking it out
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italia0101 said:
I really don't get this random reboot issue. I can honestly say I haven't had it reboot once and if had it for over a week ...
And for me the battery life is great ...
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Haven't decided yet if getting a good battery is just a lottery or if it comes down to usage habits. Probably some of both. As for rebooting I just got another one upon uninstalling HD Widgets. Clicked uninstall and *poof* there it went
Strange ... Could it be a rouge app ? Iv got 30-40 apps installed and not had a reboot ... Its really strange ...
And yea totally. Its probably down to my usage . I do a lot of browsing and xda
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hfuizo said:
Haven't decided yet if getting a good battery is just a lottery or if it comes down do usage habits. Probably some of both. As for rebooting I just got another one upon uninstalling HD Widgets. Clicked uninstall and *poof*
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my battery life was terrible during the first week; I was so disappointed. After two weeks the battery life has improved so much that I easily get 4hrs of screen time. When on idle it only drops 3%/hour
sampy14 said:
my battery life was terrible during the first week; I was so disappointed. After two weeks the battery life has improved so much that I easily get 4hrs of screen time. When on idle it only drops 3%/hour
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Have a hard time believing it will get better but I'll cross my fingers. I have heard multiple reports of this, so maybe there's hope.
I have just now ticked over to 4 hours screen on time .. 15% left
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I have just now ticked over to 4 hours screen on time .. 15% left
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So jealous.... :crying:
I'm at 56% battery remaining with a screen time of 54 minutes, won't even break 2 hours on this charge.
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So jealous.... :crying:
I'm at 56% battery remaining with a screen time of 54 minutes, won't even break 2 hours on this charge.
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Damn that does suck ... You doing alot of gaming and stuff like that
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Damn that does suck ... You doing alot of gaming and stuff like that
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No gaming at all, today some light web browsing, 20 minutes of podcasts, a few texts, and a couple minutes of phone calls, that's it.
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When on idle it only drops 3%/hour
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You say that as if it's good. Many phones will drop 3% in 10 hours on idle.. 3% per hour while sleeping is downright bad dood.
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I got a Nexus 4 yesterday, and so far it has been excellent. Really fast and has all the features I want. The battery life is pretty poor though. I am at 28% with a screen on time of only about 2 hours. The total time is about 8 hours. I haven't been using it a lot. The main thing consuming battery seems to be Nova Launcher for some reason. I have it on my Nexus 7 and it doesn't decrease battery life at all, but it seems to use a lot more on here. It was at 24% according to GSam Battery Monitor.
I just followed a bunch of instructions for increasing battery life from various websites so I will see how it goes. I now have all the Google syncing disabled, location services off and brightness on auto.
Is there anything I should be doing? Why is Nova Launcher's usage so high?
Thanks,
EDIT: Could it be the widgets I am using? I have two Gmail inbox widgets, the messaging widget and the circle battery widget.
Same here though I'm not sure its nova, my battery got as bad as yours when i rooted to stock.
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EDIT: Could it be the widgets I am using? I have two Gmail inbox widgets, the messaging widget and the circle battery widget.
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it could, or any other apps you have working in the background. it can also be how you use the device. but before you assume anything about your battery life, give it 3-4 battery cycles before it normalizes.
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it could, or any other apps you have working in the background. it can also be how you use the device. but before you assume anything about your battery life, give it 3-4 battery cycles before it normalizes.
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Alright. I have minor OCD kind of thing so I always close the active apps through the task manager as soon as I exit them. I'll give it a few more days and then pursue the issue further.
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Alright. I have minor OCD kind of thing so I always close the active apps through the task manager as soon as I exit them. I'll give it a few more days and then pursue the issue further.
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im ocd about that too, lol. the back button to kill is one of my favorite custom rom features. also, autostarts and greenify are both great apps to make sure that you have mich less ctap opening in the background. anyways, im a heavy user normally, battery life on the nexus 4 id never call bad. usually i get 3.5-5.5 hours screen on time, depending on use. but then again, i use a custom kernel thats optimized for performance and battery. but, stock rom/kernel isnt bad on battery.
I too Force Close all the social networking apps before sleeping and turn wifi off. And i daily get around 4 hrs of OST. Will attach pics later to show. So to get 4 hrs OST you need really need to have a custom kernel. Just optimize your usage and you are fine with the stock kernel.
Phone is totally stock. Not rooted. And i got 6 pages on Apps installed.
I even used to clear RAM every now and then but I just stopped doing it as I couldn't find it doing anything better.
The battery life is much better now. Yesterday when I got back from school it was at 40% or so, and today it was at 68%.
Gets better after a few battery cycles. My battery life was average, so I rooted and with matr1x kernel it's snappier and better battery.
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i'm stock and my battery life was shockingly bad on the default settings until yesterday when i tried some fixes and they have made things much better.
looking at my N4 right now, i'm still on 58% after 22 hours. that's after several voice calls, some browsing & reading emails, GPS navigation using Maps, a couple of skype video calls, wake-up alarms etc.
basic fixes as follows:
- screen brightness right down to maybe 10-15%
- data off when not being used, ditto location services
- NFC and BT off.
- i've left wifi on as it doesn't seem to take much battery if it's not being used.
that's all! after charging last night, i woke after 6 hours or so and was amazed to see it had dropped only 1-2%, so apparently nothing is waking it from sleep.
One thing that really improved my battery life (when I had a Nexus 4) and something I tell to anybody with poor battery life, is to go into maps, go to settings, location settings, and uncheck "report from this device". If you've got the app "wakelock detector" just watch the wakelocks from maps almost entirely disappear. It nearly doubled my battery life at the time.
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One thing that really improved my battery life (when I had a Nexus 4) and something I tell to anybody with poor battery life, is to go into maps, go to settings, location settings, and uncheck "report from this device". If you've got the app "wakelock detector" just watch the wakelocks from maps almost entirely disappear. It nearly doubled my battery life at the time.
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Hey thx man that didn't work but it did start me down the path to fix my problem.
I found out it had something to do with my GPS options its in settings and location access WiFi and GPS location options i checked it off and now i am getting 1 hour screen on time for every %10 if you do the math i have about 8hours of screen on time! I also have setcpu app which is giving me about 48hours of standby time, i will upload some screens after a bit more testing.
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My battery life is brill and i never turn owt off or force anything to close, it is only bad when i play a 3d game or something but what do you expect. over night it only drops about 1% every 4 hours which is a bit bonkers.
(screen on auto, fully stock with Nova and not rooted)
root your ish bish and get dem kick ass kernel burnals and rom toms and you will nevers has to worry bouts turning ish off or freezing ice na saying homie foo schnickens 49 percent bombers up in this piece
still haven't charged my N4 since my last post on this thread.
now 1 day 15h and still 40% charge left
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root your ish bish and get dem kick ass kernel burnals and rom toms and you will nevers has to worry bouts turning ish off or freezing ice na saying homie foo schnickens 49 percent bombers up in this piece
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Lol, so whats a custom kernel? cuzz i think I don't hav one because i hav rooted stock rom. sorry not to change subject
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first day of full use in my nexus 4 I got 5 hours of screen on time. stock rom and kernel, just rooted. I think it's pretty decent.
just do what people say, disable location useless stuff and monitor your wake locks.
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If you would like to risk such things as unlocking bootloader, rooting, installing custom ROM and kernel, then it'd be easier for you.
Personally, I've found codefireX ROM and faux123 kernel to be battery friendly and very responsive, but of course you've got to be a bit fixed on such things as playing with your devices and getting fun from it to do that
another update:
after 20m browsing/ emails this morning and a couple of calls, i'm down to:
2d 9h 18m and 11%
disable auto brightness
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OK, I finally got the "connect to charger" message just now after 2d 13h. here are my final battery stats:
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So I was posting some info in another thread but I figured I would make my own thread for it. It seems like the power consumption at idle might be the cause for the "not as good as expected" battery life. For example my G3 will sit off the charger for 4 hours without being used and still be at 100%, the Turbo loses 6% in that time. The G3 has a 3000mAH Battery and I could easily get 24h of off the charger time on the G3. My question is what is killing the battery on the Turbo??? Its kinda hard to look over the battery stats when there is no root. Anyone have any input?
I think it's because of the wifi. I too have experienced crazy idle drain compared to my G2 and it's really making me regret getting this phone. It seems like they just slapped the kitkat ROM together and didn't really care to test it very well because Lollipop is coming out so soon.
It's definitely draining at idle more than usual or should be, I agree. I don't think it is WiFi related though, or at least not enough to be the main problem. I could be wrong of course. I have also not experience any WiFi or Bluetooth issues whatsoever and I use a Moto 360 all day, every day.
I am currently on my 4th charge cycle since acquiring the 64GB BN model. It's been powered on for 7h 32m and I'm sitting at 78% with 1hr 18m SoT. That's with heavy usage and taking quite a bit of pictures & video during this mornings product demo presentations at work.
Hardly anything for me personally to complain about. I'm sure they will optimize it. I'm almost certain than Android L 5.0 will make this phone a true beast.
Time will tell.
are you leaving gps or high accuracy location settings on?
I have the same issue as the OP. My G3 lost very little battery life when idling. I've attempted shutting down email accounts, turning off location and selectively removing apps in hopes of determining the cause of the drain...without success. This could be a deal breaker if we don't get some type of root exploit soon.
Well this sucks. I was going to get the Turbo but now I'm going to wait and see what happens with this drain issue. Maybe 5.0 will fix it.
I have been using the same settings that I did on my G3, Auto brightness, Location OFF and Auto Sync. Glad I'm not the only one noticing it too, I think its all in the build of Kit Kat they put on this phone, hopefully L comes out soon.
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So I was posting some info in another thread but I figured I would make my own thread for it. It seems like the power consumption at idle might be the cause for the "not as good as expected" battery life. For example my G3 will sit off the charger for 4 hours without being used and still be at 100%, the Turbo loses 6% in that time. The G3 has a 3000mAH Battery and I could easily get 24h of off the charger time on the G3. My question is what is killing the battery on the Turbo??? Its kinda hard to look over the battery stats when there is no root. Anyone have any input?
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How about you start by posting screenshots of your battery stats from System...Battery
I don't have any issues whatsoever.
Well once I figure out how to do that I will post it, but in the mean time what phone were you coming from? A few people have agreed in this post that the battery life is worse @ idle then the G3 so its not just me.
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Well once I figure out how to do that I will post it, but in the mean time what phone were you coming from? A few people have agreed in this post that the battery life is worse @ idle then the G3 so its not just me.
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Well G3 could be out of box, not trying to argue wanted to understand what your problem was. If you press the graph you'll see more details on what is using batteries (awake vs screen on, cell signal etc) and more in Android System if you go into that screen.
Overall what your getting .. 1-2% is not a big deal to me and beauty of the massive battery is you don't have to worry about but if really wanted to you could improve by turning off stuff you don't need or even automating it.
FWIW I'm coming from a GS3 with a tiny battery but even that phone lasted 5 days idling with the right setting for my use case (cell radio off / WiFi on). With Turbo just disabled some apps I didn't need and don't even think about it any more. I do have complaints about the Turbo but battery is definitely not one of them.
I'm interested in this as well. I bought my turbo yesterday evening and it had a pretty good charge (>80%) out of the box. I played with it for much of the evening and copied ~8gb of data to the phone via wifi. When I went to bed battery was at 60%, when I woke up it was 46%. I noticed that my third biggest battery use is command center, so I disabled auto-location in that app. I'm hoping to have better results on my first full charge.
Yeah I agree, but its literally the same settings I ran of my G3. I think I'm just gonna return it between the weak wifi and cell signal, and the camera it's just not worth it if the battery life isn't better then my G3
I've been posting in the other battery life thread... but to summarize, I'm going to be doing some thorough testing over the next 24/48 hours (currently ongoing).
I have already noticed significant improvements in my battery life. Has mentioned in the other thread. I'll be making a detailed post on Friday evening with my results.
I may also, from time to time post some of my progress, as I already have an understanding as to one of the issues involved with the so called "idle drain" everyone is referring to, and it is NOT WiFi.
Keep your eyes on that thread here.
Thanks, I'm pretty good with understanding wake locks, I just don't know where to start without root since most the stats in BB require it. I'm intrested to see what you come up with. I'm gonna wait till Saturday anyway to see if I still want to trade this in for the nexus.
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I'm gonna wait till Saturday anyway to see if I still want to trade this in for the nexus.
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Is there a hard date for the nexus?
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I've been posting in the other battery life thread... but to summarize, I'm going to be doing some thorough testing over the next 24/48 hours (currently ongoing).
I have already noticed significant improvements in my battery life. Has mentioned in the other thread. I'll be making a detailed post on Friday evening with my results.
I may also, from time to time post some of my progress, as I already have an understanding as to one of the issues involved with the so called "idle drain" everyone is referring to.
Keep your eyes on that thread here.
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Very interested in what you come up with, thanks!
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Thanks, I'm pretty good with understanding wake locks, I just don't know where to start without root since most the stats in BB require it. I'm intrested to see what you come up with. I'm gonna wait till Saturday anyway to see if I still want to trade this in for the nexus.
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Well you are limited with what you can do but I already gave you a start in my post, maybe you missed it. The only insight you will have without root (for tools like Better Battery Stats) is looking into all the info you can get out of Settings..Battery. There you can see wake locks vs screen on time and other stats like cell signal / wifi status etc. Then you can also dive into your biggest usage, for you it looks like it is Android System. They will list system services that are classified here. For example, you'll see the moto features are part of this. If you don't want to dig you can wait for Andromjb's updates
Overall I wouldn't base your decision to return the Turbo based on the battery -- base it on your other problems it sounds like you're having with wifi signal etc. That sounds like reason enough for a return. If you're ok with the larger size of the Nexus 6 then to me it's a no brainer to go with that instead of Droid Turbo since they are almost identical in terms of hardware.
For those that are getting battery drain, did you disable all of the verizon apps? There are some 20+ apps that are constantly running in the background and will drain your battery(even after i did a factory reset, these apps were sending data despite me never having opened them). Disable those, restart, then see if things change over the next cycle. I got 2d9hr31m and 4hr23 min of SOT(minimal usage) and was at 13%; this was on the first charge.
Could this drain be due to some of the sensors used for notifications. Doesn't the turbo have the feature where you stick your hand over it and it shows the notifications? If this is the case, wouldn't those sensors have to stay on?
Yeah I have 27 apps disabled and it really didn't make a difference for me like it has in the past, their must be something killing the battery on this 30m of screen time and I'm at 79% shouldn't be happening.
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Yeah I have 27 apps disabled and it really didn't make a difference for me like it has in the past, their must be something killing the battery on this 30m of screen time and I'm at 79% shouldn't be happening.
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Thats actually really interesting. I haven't been experiencing anything like that. Perhaps try doing a factory reset then disabling them again. That's the only thing I did differently. Perhaps it's just a bad device? I'm already at 2hrs screen time, heavy downloading(off line apps), and have been on battery for 1d8hr- still at 45%. Is there anything in the battery stats? Wake locks perhaps?